I never miss a podcast of SubPar. Every future Ryder Cup Captain needs to watch this episode. So many good ideas to make the USA competitive across the pond. Keep up the great content.

this content is so good i have no idea how this podcast hasn't blown tf up yet

Why didn’t the American players enter the BMW? It’s a premier event

@charlesvorones3612

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. They're multi-millionaires. One tourney with less prize money isn't going to put them in the poorhouse. Plus, they could get accustomed to playing/living away from home. Except for The Open, they have the home course advantage all year long, and can't handle a foreign crowd/experience.

I'm from neither US nor Europe, and been following golf for almost 40 years. I would say Team Europe has consistently shown to have the more thoughtful (and intelligent) captain on the job, ie. decision making aside, their interviews are usually insightful laced with deference to history & culture. And everything being equal (which is not as Team USA is clearly superior on paper each time), the Captaincy makes the defining difference.

Agree on the V. Captain. Get someone like Mike Krzyzewski, Coach K from Duke to help. Or other team sports coaches that know how to work with and motivate a team in hostile environments.

Always great content and insights. In my opinion the best golf podcast in the business. Consistently a must view.

They may have been "close" but at best they were a group, not a team.

Great show

Thanks for that information I appreciate it…

All you have to do is adopt the same chants. As an Englishman living in the US and a follower of Tottenham all my life. These songs and chants are generic to all teams the words are adapted to for each individual team. Yes a football club will have one song that is identifiable to them uniquely. But then most everything else is used by them as in other clubs. Hence it just adapted by the fans at the Ryder Cup because they are all likely to be football fans to. So you don’t have to invent anything just create the words to fit the tune it’s really that simple I’d love to see the US create a similar atmosphere and Beth Page in two years it makes for good competition and it a lot better than being abusive or hollering get in the hole. See you in New York in two years time may the best team win.

Justin thomas said in the presser after it that it’s the closest team that america have had in years, usually there is a few “mis-fits” that typically make a team but this team all got on very well etc… makes me wonder if JT would rather win the trophy with some “mis-fits” in the team or loose with his “mates”

@Diogenes-ty9yy

9 ай бұрын

Yes, they got along well and mostly sucked. There are no points awarded for "feeling good" with your teammates.

@charlesvorones3612

9 ай бұрын

Lucas Glover and Keegan Bradley read a lot of books. Probably doesn't blend well with the iron-pumping Brooksy types and frat boys.

The Euros show up to play for the spirit and myth of Seve. The Americans show up for a boys club weekend, bitching they aren't getting paid. The Americans need to identify their own " win one for the Gipper" mythology. And no it's not Tiger.

@nickmclean9401

9 ай бұрын

It’s Tiger Woods…

@formula2tom225

9 ай бұрын

problem, he's still alive.@@nickmclean9401

@aha3885

9 ай бұрын

​@@nickmclean9401Tiger is goat material, but Ryder Cup was a nightmare for him almost every time. I mean, 13-21-3...his record is awful. He never fit in this tournament, I don't know the reasons but facts are facts. So now, make him the spiritual leader for the American Ryder team...obviusly I understand the pick, we're talking about Tiger ###king Woods. But sometimes, two things are not destined to fit.

@ianniess4832

8 ай бұрын

@@aha3885Tiger did a great job in his captaincy of the presidents cup. Granted that’s a different animal, but nonetheless he did nothing to be criticized. Why does nobody talk about Chris Dimarco, did I miss something 🤷🏼‍♂️

@aha3885

8 ай бұрын

@@ianniess4832 Off course, I said that in my first post. We're talking about one of the goats, trying to find weaknesses in his candidacy is quite difficult. And maybe a litle bit moronic...but I'm just saying, this tournament is a place where Tiger Woods & Phil Mickelson have won 35 points in 20 Ryder Cups, with 34% wins in 84 matches, and Sergio García & Ian Poulter have won 44'5 points in 17 Ryder Cups, with 58% wins in 69 matches. Imho, there is a kind of player/people who fit perfectly in Ryder Cup. And being an all times great not necessarily put you in that category. The most feared usa player in the best era for European team, 85/87/89/91, the legendary squad with Seve, Faldo, Olazábal, Woosnam, Langer, Lyle...the guy who irritated them, worried them, and many times won them, was Paul Azinger. You name Chris Di Marco, and I agree 100%. That are the personalities you need in this tournament.

Listening to Colt try to defend Joe is hilarious. It’s OK to admit that Joe was completely in the wrong colt. Cheer on your teammate and get the hell out of the way. He’s lucky Rory was as nice as he was about it. Imagine if he was doing that to someone like Brooks or John Rahm. Joe looked like a complete clown and so do you for defending him Colt.

Its very simple guys, go play the BMW wentworth the week before the RC as a team. The US team was way undercooked

I believe that Zack will go down as the worst captain in Ryder Cup history. He was totally out class by his opponents in every sense of the way from the speeches to the setting up of the locker rooms to the selections of Luke, Donalds players. It was embarrassing, as we basically made it an American road trip.

@charlesvorones3612

9 ай бұрын

What about Hal Sutton losing 18 1/2 -- 9 1/2 in 2004 at home? (Detroit) ... AT HOME!!

If the American team was being paid on performance … they would owe the backers a Billion Dollars. They didn’t just roll over and die .. they committed ritual seppuku!

You guys mentioned all the Euro LIV players but wouldn’t drop the American names? With the merger can’t y’all (I mean all critics, I also understand Tour affiliation) get off your soapboxes and high horses finally. Peter Uliehn and Yassir played in the Alfred Dunhill pro-am yesterday. Asking for everyone who wants to watch the best golfers again!!

Get rid of the old vice captains, to start.

Unlike the Europeans, USA can build team unity through a test EACH YEAR...next USA captain should treat presidents cup as a test run for a squad and use picks to match as close as possible

Guys, he was getting married the following day. He didnt want his hair messed up or sunburn on his face. Those were the final reasons, Get your facts right. Cantley was stunning by the way.

You never mentioned Windy Clarke who claimed to be better than Rory.. delusional.. and choked shanked twice on 18th.. 😅😅

its on the editor to say to the journalists fuck off ...no ?

Zack's old boys club got smashed cause he ain't got a clue what he is doing, starting from his picks. Maybe next time the US will pick players on performance and not who they are friends with. Not to mention the bias against LIV players.

@jordan-xe2yb

9 ай бұрын

Yeah babay!

@Diogenes-ty9yy

9 ай бұрын

Amen, brother, amen!!!

Max ROMA!

12 best golfers in the world? What are you smoking?

DJ, Bryson, Reed, Glover, Keegan, Gooch, it was not the best USA team by far and they were rusty

@jordan-xe2yb

9 ай бұрын

That would also be a weird team.

@dereckguilfoyle1219

9 ай бұрын

@@jordan-xe2yb but it would be a winning team

Steph Curry should be a Vice Captain.

Guys … I really enjoy podcast … this episode I’m skipping … my jury is in … too disgusted with the topic …Golf is a very tough, complex game … and yet possesses many simplicities. Colt, can you imagine yourself … beginning a new year of your amateur career … looking ahead to qualifying and playing in the U.S. amateur at the Olympic Club … thinking … well one preparation I’m for sure making is taking 5 weeks off prior 🙄🙄🙄 … Maligned JT showed up ! … in Napa, and in the Ryder cup … the whole team coulda/shoulda had been mandated to Napa (Spieth excluded for his very special baby arrival). The level of our team commitment was disgusting ! … The Masters, 2024, question : Will the 2023 Ryder Cup team take 5 weeks off prior ???

These two mention that nothing changed from the last Ryder Cup won by the US. Fact is European team played better. The Top 3 European players led by example. Had the US team miraculously pulled off the upset these two would not be whining about nothing.

Charles Barkley - vice captai

You guys are giving apologies for Joe LaCava and he has never publicly apologized... If Joe LaCava did the same to you, you would be livid also...

It’s just so satisfying when US loses.

Tito's gives my wife a headache

Zack Johnson is a great guy.... the weakest personality as a leader

Rory has got to be the biggest cry baby of all time!!! Bet if Joe was still Tigers caddy, Rory would have said nothing. Good for Joe!!!

@declanrigney8550

9 ай бұрын

You’re obviously know little about golf and golf etiquette.. maybe get some education in that area and come back with something intelligent..

@jordan-xe2yb

9 ай бұрын

Nope. Any professional golfer would be justified in taking exception to what LaCava did. Accept it.

@charlesvorones3612

9 ай бұрын

Cry Baby? It's Joe who couldn't handle the Euros' clever chants. Joe couldn't take not having adoring fans for the first time. Americans play at home the whole year, and one time in front of hostile crowd, they get hot and bothered. The Euros don't act like spoiled kids when they play here.

@toddtrent1973

8 ай бұрын

@@charlesvorones3612 Rory is a spoiled kid and bet he doesn’t like what he gets in NY. Just wait. He will be crying how mean NY fans are. 😂😂😂

@toddtrent1973

8 ай бұрын

@@jordan-xe2yb Rory was a douche bad telling him to moooooooove. They were celebrating all week and one time USA does he gets butt hurt. Accept it.

Stop making excuses for Joe LaCava. Show me a time in the last 30 years when USA showed any class either winning or losing. No doubt Betpage is going to be a complete shitshow in 2025.