Well Defenders Beyond now confirmed she's 2nd to TOAA

I feel people seriously underestimate the statement that the phoenix powers come from all life force and psionic from the past, present and future. It's always at full power it's just that certain individuals (Jean Grey) were the only one/s who could access it's full power which is omniversal.

@urickmann7768

3 жыл бұрын

yep which is why some host are stronger than others for instance jean would beat a namor with the full force even if she had only a small spark or none of its power at all

@Eudjier

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly she's omniversal, and untouchable, she doesn't exist. Hence, the Phoenix Force, it's like there is emptiness, you can't grab her.

One of the strongest beings in comics. Only the One Above All is surely above her. The Living Tribunal was beat by The Beyonder I believe. Even The Beyonder was having problems with her. Not to mention her beating Galactus and over seeing his birth. She is power!!

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

Mezmerized4Life Jay keep in mind cyclops with the PF made god king doom scream. So jean grey could possibly beat him.

@cheeseburgerfreddy6350

4 жыл бұрын

Beyonder never had problems with her he literally amped her up with his own power and she still couldn't even harm him Lols she's not even in the top 3

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

CHEESE BURGER FREDDY are you omnipresent or some shit?! You’re everywhere!

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

big man rasheed. Well a Phoenix host did make him go “...oh...” once.

@cheeseburgerfreddy6350

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrandtastic5473 Lols

Jean’s connection and bond with the Phoenix is beautifully done. Their relationship is a cosmic dance between the two.

To me Jean Grey Summers will always be Phoenix.

@jairogers5876

3 жыл бұрын

By far the best ever!

@LaotianLover

2 жыл бұрын

Right Jean grey is the Phoenix. Don’t mess with the original!

@mikaylayore7077

7 ай бұрын

It’s been stated multiple times. “Jean is phoenix and phoenix is Jean” all other hosts are exactly just that “hosts”

@stainshield

7 ай бұрын

@@mikaylayore7077 yes and she should just keep that Codename instead of using her 1960s Codename Marvel Girl, because Phoenix is much cooler.

People always forget Jean Grey has a telepathic link with the Phoenix force. That telepathic link allows her to even tap into the powers of the phoenix force without being bonded to it like it is meant for her. I believe it is her mutation. She has the mutant power to tap into phoenix force. Jean Grey is the one true phoenix. She is the Phoenix and Phoenix is Jean. They are one and the same.

@Eudjier

2 жыл бұрын

She is telepathic. That makes her powerful

@johannes7572

2 жыл бұрын

Actually have a comic scan where death tells jean that the phoenix force like Excalibur is her birthright. And it will continue to be the birthright of her bloodline

@reynaldobariquit5167

2 жыл бұрын

that makes sense when she manifested the phoenix during the xmen apocalypse even if the phoenix was not bonded with her during that time

@Lucretia19

Жыл бұрын

Yes and some stans still saying that jean grey is nothing without the phoenix force

@Lucretia19

Жыл бұрын

@@reynaldobariquit5167 yes exactly

The Phoenix is so overpowered now especially after Defenders Beyond basically revealed it’s not only above entities like Eternity but the Beyonder as well.

@priyanshipatel1467

8 ай бұрын

Ikr!? And there r people who think SW stands a chance

this video literally just made me look at all the other marvel powerhouses like jokes. she really defeats them ALL.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

well she is a concept level being hahahha

@kaasik1987

3 жыл бұрын

In the Dark Phoenix saga The Watcher stated Phoenix Force to be primal force second only to that of The Creator

@1973Ganesh

2 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable how strong would that make phoenix king Thor

@omeometeotl

Жыл бұрын

@@1973Ganesh still bellow WPOTC. only Jean Grey or her bloodline can tap into the FULL power of the Phoenix Force. But he’s probably up there with the other abstract beings or just below them.

@xxbbbuckoxx

Жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable actually In her final form she is above concepts & story

One thing I find so funny is Jean with her full extent of power had Oblivion, Eternity, Infinity, Death, and the LIVING TRIBUNAL kneel before her lol. And the watcher said once Jean became the host of the Phoenix she didn’t know she was only below TOAA and above everything else. The watcher quoted - “And I saw her reborn as Phoenix! Through she did not know it then, Jean had become one with a primal force second only to that of the creator. It was more power than she - or any human - could ever hope to control. In time, it twisted and warped her soul - until Phoenix was transfigured into dark Phoenix!”

@getitboy83

3 жыл бұрын

When was this??? I’m currently in a debate with some idiot who swears Eternity is more powerful than WPOTC. As if Eternity could take on such power when he lost to Dormmamu.

@phoenixfire5998

3 жыл бұрын

@@getitboy83 eternity had told jean grey that her powers limitless and saying he wanted the mutant race to be greater than the abstract entities, the next time they met she was actually able to absorb him and his powers. And Jean Grey earth- 9250 already defeated dormammu and goblin queen.

@phoenixfire5998

3 жыл бұрын

@@getitboy83 it was in a comic issue where it was showing where she stands in all of marvel. Showing she was above all abstract and celestial beings but second to TOAA.

@iamphoenixCHANEL

2 жыл бұрын

it is an official statement from the marvel through the comic book. That statement is in the Uncanny X-Men comics

@monarch68

Жыл бұрын

True Form Oblivon destroys her she may beat Illusion Oblivion but she is fodder compared to True Form Oblivion but she's still powerful af

I loved her original green Phoenix mode. Even nerfed as you said, she curb stomped Firelord, a herald of Galacticus. She slammed Magneto around. He was scared.

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think Batmans ' Final Batsuit' could beat Phoinex?

@lucifermorningstar8425

10 ай бұрын

​@@oisinreilly2639Nah White Phoenix of The Crown scales higher than current batman (The Darkest Knight)

I felt like the Phoenix Force fell in love with Jean lol it couldn't resist her, kept coming back for her, revives her, chose her 🥴🤣

@Eudjier

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I dont think she likes the Phoenix Force resurrecting her, if you notice, she told the Phoenix not to resurrect her a few times, if you're eternal, that can get old

@ahayahsgirlteamyashaya7650

2 жыл бұрын

I 👍 agree!!!

@308719236

2 жыл бұрын

It's implied that it created Jean Grey and is practically one with it therefore like Wanda Jean Grey is a Nexus being

@308719236

2 жыл бұрын

More like it created her to be it's perfect vessel

@blinkycosmo2158

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Phoenix Force is a Female. What do ypu mean fell in love?

What I have been waiting for!! 🎊🎉🎊😱

I remember some kiddo saying that Raven can beat phoenix 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Edit: This isn't a comment section, this is a warzone

@UNKNOWN-qr7uo

4 жыл бұрын

This guy danco made an video with “Top 10 characters that beat Dark Phoenix and Superman prime 1 million and Galactus are on that list.🧐😒

@sammieyoung2529

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@sammieyoung2529

4 жыл бұрын

@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo danco is a fanboy of Superman. Those are the worse when it comes to speaking on beings that can beat him. They will hurt themselves frantically searching for a way for their "hero" to beat the unbeatable.

@UNKNOWN-qr7uo

4 жыл бұрын

sammie young True that Zeno could beat Superman Prime million.

@johnetheridge5833

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people don't know that there is an earth where marvel and DC characters live

One of the most powerfull entitie, Great video as always

@walkedoutt7225

3 жыл бұрын

entity

She's definitely one of the most powerful beings in Marvel with the Phoenix Force obviously, I'll rank her slightly below the Living Tribunal or possibly even above, but she's above other cosmic abstract entities like Eternity and Mistress Death.

@megawatisoekarnoputri9373

4 жыл бұрын

One above all > Phoenix

@ecor150

3 жыл бұрын

Especially when Death and Infinity are literally bowing down to her.

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think batman with his ' final batsuit' could beat her? Some batman fanboy said he would because it's apparently " Above Gods"

@ecor150

3 жыл бұрын

@@oisinreilly2639 anyone that worships batman is mentally unstable and should be automatically ignored for life

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@@ecor150 I agree. Especially when they said he could defeat Spiderman, cap, panther or the Phoinex etc

I love your videos man, you are helping the power scaling community a ton. Could you do a video on darksieds father

Excellent video. Finally caught up on Phoenix Force Jean Grey.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed yourself and I'm glad you are enjoying yourself on the channel!!

@magnaz26

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I'm surprised you responded lol... Thanks for sending me this link😃. You have a long list of interesting videos; I loose track of what I'm doing every time I go through it due to there being such a wealth of knowledge lol... I'm an online vs-debater. When ever I need to be more informed on a characters capabilities for an upcoming debate I always check your vids first. There are a lot of power scaling KZreadrs that I have examined and they all have there strong points and there weak points. So far I think you are the best at providing the most exaustive list of comic pages and sources that confirms every claim you make to be true, and just as important, you explain the comics in there proper context. Most power scalers aren't good at proving there argument cause it does take a lot of time and effort to collect all of the canon evidence, which most aren't willing to do. So I respect your hard work cause even I myself is too lazy to read and watch all of this material. So I'm glad you enjoy doing the work for me ...😂

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

Those were the days lol(I retired from debating on Instagram hahaha) But glad my vids stand out from the rest

The White Crown is Jean Grey with the _full power_ of the Phoenix Force. She is more powerful than everyone except The One Above All. Her White Hot Room is the _beyond of Beyond,_ the realm of the Beyonder and the Ivory Kings.

A wonder woman fan tried to convince me once that she can beat the Phoenix force if she takes off her bracelets 😂😂. There is no incarnation of Diana whatsoever that can beat Jean grey phoenix

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

4 жыл бұрын

That retarded TBH

@ugospotty678

4 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yeah it is

@ugospotty678

4 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Although withcmark Wonder woman would be better, but she'd still get stomped

@ugospotty678

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 Probably

@meangirlyboss5536

3 жыл бұрын

Ugo Spotty some Wonder Woman fanboys😂😂

To be fair Jean Grey is really powerful even without the Phoinex force

@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024

2 жыл бұрын

EXTREMELY powerful!

@lucifermorningstar8425

10 ай бұрын

Fax

@mikaylayore7077

7 ай бұрын

It’s hard to beat telepathy let alone an omega telepath who’s telepathy has no bounds.

Wow deep. She may be more powerful than even Classic Beyonder. Great Video.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

She's pretty insane! You definitely can't start her out at full power in movies in my opinion LOL Maybe like a big movie crossover event or something of that sort LOL

@ugospotty678

2 жыл бұрын

The white phoenix of the crown would dog walk the beyonder lmao

.. love you Jean with same passion that both Cyclops and Wolvie will always love you

Cool

The Phoenix/WPOTC is Life and Death itself, how can you beat that? No one is above her. Anything that has Life anywhere ion the multiverse is under the mercy of the Phoenix and that includes all cosmic being, I repeat including ALL cosmic beings.

@nomorechance4754

4 жыл бұрын

TOAA is above her, hence his name "The One Above All"

@joshd8342

4 жыл бұрын

@@nomorechance4754 You are wrong. Technically WPOTC can draw the life out of TOAA. Also, it was insinuated in the comics that Franklin Richards will be the next TOAA. There is absolutely no way that Franklin Richards will be more powerful that WPOTC.

@nomorechance4754

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshd8342 About franklin richards, dude those are just statements, even protege stated he was going to be the next TOAA but got imprisoned by scathan, do you even know who TOAA is?? He's omnipotent, phoenix is not, so TOAA>>>phoenix since he is the "God" of marvel, as in like the literal god. Phoenix won't compare

@joshd8342

4 жыл бұрын

@@nomorechance4754 Of course I know who TOAA is. When it was insinuated by the writers that Franklin Rickards will be the next TOAA, I was shocked as the very existence of TOAA means there can be no one greater than him. I think it was stupid lazy writing from the comics writer at that time. I would say that the WPOTC is on par with TOAA given the description of WPOTC powers and abilities as well as the nature of it's existence.

@nomorechance4754

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshd8342 well franklin richards was still nowhere near living tribunal so he was never gonna be the next TOAA But WPOTC isn't on par with TOAA, you can't be on par with omnipotence

One my favorites. The Phoenix force is off the charts.

What video game is in the first few second of this video? Looks really cool

The greatest story ever told in comics. The phoenix is basically stan lee`s (the one of above all rumored) pet. The jean grey saga is so brilliant. I read the comics when it released it took one of the weakest characters in marvel and suddenly made her super powerful. But at its core its almost a love story of the phoenix and jean. Phoenix is like a baby just wanting to learn about the host. But with jean it became more of alike a child and saw jean more as like a mother. What would a god think of human arguing and fighting over such petty little things? Phoenix only cared about the emotions jean experienced during those fights. It wasnt until the hellfire club tried to manipulate her that god got upset about being used or exploited. The jean saga as i remember was ment to write jean off in a blaze of glory. But because phoenix and jean became so well loved by fans even all these years later they will always live on even if they are thought dead and gone. Phoenix as a second to only the one above all in power. Funny you have this super OP character. But seems to lose almost every fight. This is what separates her from so many godly characters. She has all this power and doesn't use it for her own ends. The only thing the phoenix truly seems to want is for jean grey to except it. Like jean is playing hard to get in a new relationship. But when Jean and phoenix actually talk the phoenix never tries to force jean into excepting it. With that much power phoenix could will jean to do it, but the phoenix never does. But as the phoenix has no idea of what it ment to be human. Jean has no idea of what it ment to be a god and do what the phoenix does for the better of all existence. But the writing is brilliant. The xmen animated series did great touching on it for newer fans. But left so much more to discover. 1 day we will get a phoenix movie that is not a cluster of parts thrown together. It took 3 movies for us to get a fiery bird but it was amazing to see.

Fun fact: DC copied the Phoenix force and turned it into a demonic Raven as you can see the Raven is black and the Phoenix is goldenish fiery reddish orange

@charlie6134

2 жыл бұрын

@Dope Love exactly they changed Phoenix power color cz raven has all of Phoenix's powers but just black. And she has umbrakinesis. And they changed the Phoenix by put raven characteristics.

Bruh and then some people still say Hom wanda can defeat jean grey 😏😂

@PatrickStar-tg4gi

3 жыл бұрын

Wanda can put up a fight. But she will NEVER be able to beat Phoenix.

@blinkycosmo2158

3 жыл бұрын

@@PatrickStar-tg4gi she can put up a fighy with a regular Phonix and still lose. Now imagine going up against White phoenix of thr Crown. Bye House of M 🤣

@phoenixfire5998

3 жыл бұрын

@@blinkycosmo2158 that wouldn’t be fair to put wpotc because wpotc is above the LT. The watcher also stated that once hens bonded with the Phoenix she only became second to the one who created all (TOAA)

@mutefalon

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s funny when someone says Wanda can beat her 😂

@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoenixfire5998 wpotc is not above tlt he's quite stronger, and wanda vs wpotc is debatable as doom even said pre retcon beyonders power felt like nothing compared to wandas

Jean is a freakin' God.

The Phoenix Force is indestructible and invincible.

WAIT WTF????? SHE F****ING HELD THE EARTH - 616 IN THE PALM OF HER HAND???????? You mean she Held the Totality of Marvel??? THE PRIMAL UNIVERSE OF ALL CHARACTERS?????? You mean where all the Alternate version of every characters in marvel universe is in the palm of her hand???? Lord jesus that is TOAA level Feat.

@ugospotty678

2 жыл бұрын

She makes the living tribunal look like shit

Rune king Thor and white Phoenix of the crown are two beings that really seem invincible

@efxnews4776

3 жыл бұрын

You didn't get it... Jean is the PERFECT host. Thor isn't really "worthy" in the eyes of Phoenix, ONLY JEAN GREY.

@1973Ganesh

2 жыл бұрын

@@efxnews4776 Phoenix king says hi

@Slyfer80631

Жыл бұрын

@@efxnews4776 Hi

@308719236

Жыл бұрын

​​@@1973Ganesh unless Thor is a White Phoenix of the Crown he isn't 100% compatible or capable of of the full power of the Phoenix. Only Jean grey is as she is its true host/perfect host.

Can we get an updated video of how strong the Phoenix force is did a great job would love to see how strong she has gotten then especially with rkt ?

Jean Grey+Wanda Maximoff+Ororo Munroe = Lightning Scarlet Phoenix

They ruined the Phoenix/Jean Grey relationship

@HandriaTubal

3 жыл бұрын

They had to 🤣 more drama, more 💰

Infinity ÷ 5 is still Infinity

Always been my secret favorite

Can you do a power level comparrison to Jean and Wanda?

Does the Phoenix Force have any speed related feats? Wait, the Phoenix Force is OMNI.

@josephblue838

2 жыл бұрын

PERIOD! 😂

They are faster than light. Spidey dodged their attacks and blitz them making him FTL as well if we count that. Not saying he beats them but you know what I mean. Anyhow Jean is extremely powerful. She had enough strength to hurt the Thing who go toe to toe with Hulk.

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

Playerback 772 emmm!! Are you forgetting that cyclops with PF made god king doom scream?

@Eudjier

2 жыл бұрын

They're all faster than light travel, theyre mutants

@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Spidey is faster than light. Y’all are delusional. 😭💀

@GinGouki

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 People don't understand what scaling is😂 that doesn't make him faster than light he's able to react that fast not move that fast

Do one for Kitty Pryde (shadowcat)

You should have brought up avengers 1,000,000 story on why the phoenix really loves Jean

@priyanshipatel1467

8 ай бұрын

Is it because of Jean being red head or good telepath or telekinetic? I'm sorry I don't know much about that issue

I’m so anoying scarlet witch fans saying they can beat. Me

@Eudjier

2 жыл бұрын

Scarlet witch is not as 😎 cool. Shes weaker dude.

@cleopatraayourbae

Жыл бұрын

Delusional fans as always

@dragosanders4234

Жыл бұрын

It's because wanda was able to minorly hurt the Phoenix five but then when Scott nearly became dark phoenix her power had no effect .Hope had to take the phoenix into her and then copy wandas chaos magic where they both said no more phoenix .And banished the Phoenix from earth and used it to break wandas no more mutant spell

Definetly a Multiversal threat that rival's someone like HOM scarlet witch easily

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

CHEESE BURGER FREDDY I’d say more powerful than HOMSW.

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

Hold on! YOU again?! Damn I find you almost every comic book video.

@cheeseburgerfreddy6350

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrandtastic5473 Lols

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

CHEESE BURGER FREDDY lols indeed.

@cheeseburgerfreddy6350

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrandtastic5473 Wouldn't say more powerful as SW chaos Magic is a weakness and is like the yang to the PF

And green phionex is above peak heralds which they scale to universal plus to multiversal plus for med ball

Also the White Phoenix of the 👑 is a multi universal being, it is literally the force that creates and destroys on the multiversal level. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet teamed up with Silver Surfer and Galactus backed up by the Living Tribunal would be made bitches if the fckd around and found out.

Can you cite the issue that gives the info that the phoenix force allowed galactus to survive the death of his universe? I told this to someone but cant remember where i remember this from when they asked me

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

4 жыл бұрын

readcomiconline.to/Comic/X-Men-Phoenix-Force-Handbook/Full?id=88649 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 HERE !!

@fishnewt1331

4 жыл бұрын

Originally it was in the last issue Adventures of the X-Men.

The Phoenix Force is second to the One Above All in Marvel. It is the only true Omniversal being in Marvel, besides the The One Above All and Oblivion. The Living Tribunal is Multiversal. Cosmic Abstracts can be Mutliversal or Universal. Cosmic Entities are universal, but can go to other universes. The Beyonders are Outerversal (or Beyondverse). Some say Oblivion is the opposite of the Phoenix Force. One responsible for all Psionic Force and Creation. One responsible for all destruction.

@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no shes definitely not 2nd in marvel, not even top 10 in marvel, she's probably top 30

@willejones1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 It has actually been officially stated that the Phoenix Force is second to The One Above All. Look it up online. You will find it. Many fan boys of other characters like Thanos and Thor hate that it is cannon, and the Avengers writers have even stolen the concept from the X-Men. But, it is officially stated. The Phoenix Force is similar to DC's Source, in that the PF is the Force that The One Above All used to create the entire Marvel Omniverse. Like how the Presence uses the Source, as well as others, like Elaine and Perpetua (who was given authority to use it). On Facebook, and in my phone, I have the scans, but it cannot simply post on youtube like that, but a simply search is all that is needed.

@willejones1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 And, Fandom has the Phoenix Force at 1 - A on the tiering system, and Jean as the White Phoenix at 1 - B. The highest it goes is Boundless. Next is 1 - A. Boundless would include TOAA, Monitor-Mind the Overvoid, and Pre Retcon Beyonder. And Pre Retcon Beyonder couldn't even do anything to the Phoenix Force. Matter of fact, PF stole much of the Beyonders energy.

@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556

2 жыл бұрын

@@willejones1918 yeah neither pre retcon beyonder or wpotc are top 10, that statement of her being second to toaa was a long time ago marvel has gotten much stronger and has got much more powerful characters added. Ill just name people above her (not in order btw) : True toaa Writers Toba/toba hulk Aao Zadkiel Angel rider Koh ghost rider Hoi vision Hoi nyx Then and now True TLT Never queen Divine creator Peak man thing Maya Current wanda Current molecule man Gaea Khonshu Current Thor Black winter True eternity True infinity GoS Loki Lords of shamballa Job burke

@willejones1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 The Phoenix Force is the Force of TOAA that was used to create everything in the Omniverse. How is anything but TOAA going to be stronger than it? Lmao. WPTOC recreated teh entire Mutliverse after the Chaos Wave. No, none of the above but TOAA beats the PF. And any aspects of TOAA are still just TOAA, including the PF, which has also been stated as an aspect of the TOAA. lol

This great videos and keep make great videos. This video get two tumb up 😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍. Jean grey and lot characters are my favorite characters. Jean grey is great character.

Phoneix does deem to be more poweful then Eternity but its clear they to are almost ome in the same being and must survive together, also Storm is the closest mutant to Eternity ever and im wondering if we see more of Eternity using storm as his host and if Stormernity and Jeanix will have a play fight one day 😂😂

So is she way more powerful than Scarlet Witch with the Darkhold something. Right??? Or not I'm still learning and curious.

White phoenix of the crown can deafeat beyonder

Me not knowing the full power of WPOTC makes me theorise that there is a much HIGHER than White Phoenix. Just a theory. (Imagine a Golden Phoenix.. OOOO BITCH BYEE)

I think Jean Grey the Phoenix are wanted to say because in the beginning the Phoenix is one of the most powerful beings in the universe and she in Jane the kissing each other's equals in that stature cuz they both are Papa bees in their own right at the Philly sports shows has a worthy candidate to become one with and I believe Jean Grey can use this power for good as much as the it was accidentally used for evil but she stands on a high-ranking of a list of those Marvel beings were powerful in the universe

And white phionex is above peak galactus and eternity and celestials, which she should be atleast Oblivion tier and white hot room tier

PHOENIX is OMNIVERSAL. lol

@silentz3428

4 жыл бұрын

Mor Agev are u serious ???

@moragev2606

4 жыл бұрын

@@silentz3428 Yes it exist accross all the universes simultaneously. There is only one Phoenix in the omniverse.

@silentz3428

4 жыл бұрын

Mor Agev everyone low balls her to multiversal

@mrbrandtastic5473

4 жыл бұрын

Mor Agev hmmm you could be correct. What about the megaverse? Could other PF’ exist in other marvel multiverses?

@moragev2606

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrandtastic5473 No there is only one PF in the Marvel Omniverse. Megaverse is way lower than Omniverse. OMNIVERSE is the sum of all megaverses, or the totality of all universes.

Some little biased Batman child said Batmans new suit ' The Final Batsuit' is above gods and above the Phoinex just because it ( may) have defeaten Superman, Darkseid and Lucifer /Presence and he said it's sixth dimensional and that phoinex wouldn't be able to reach it and that phoinex wouldn't be able to do anything to it and he said something about the metal of it. Is it true it's above gods and the Phoinex? Tbh to me it sounds so stupid.

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@Jesus Judai Cavazos Dude, just no. No version of batman CAN NOT beat the Phoinex.

@ugospotty678

3 жыл бұрын

@Staffordshire Comics No just no. No batman whatsoever touches the Phoenix, I don't care if he has 2.5million years of prep time

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@@ugospotty678 I know right? He's been turned into a plot character it's so laughable 😂😂

@ugospotty678

3 жыл бұрын

@Ianira Rumplestiltskin Yeah I don't see what Lucifer Morningstar can do the the white crown of the Phoenix

@necrozmautra3685

2 жыл бұрын

Travis Scott batman can beat the wpotc lol

I like green Jean. More controled, level headed and independent. The wreak havoc red is way too dramatic.

the Phoenix Force is omniversal..its the sum of ALL life force past present and future

Some little Batman fanboy child said that she would lose to ' the final batsuit' and that it's" above gods ". Do you believe that? Also if batman fought phoinex with that suit do you think he'd beat her?

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 The one where it's sixth dimensional, that's it one of or the most powerful in the six dimensions or something idk, said something about the metal of connected to superman or something idk, and that it defeated Lucifer and Darkseid. They also said it could control reality. Tbh the guy was talking like a child and was 100% biased. His username is called ' X-Ray Gaming' I think and his pfp is a red X with black as the background color. I think he's just being an idiot. He kinda repeated something I said which he said " Phoinex may be death or something" and even said " Ironman did pretty good damage to the Phoinex with the Phoinex buster and the final batsuit would make him look like a homeless fool". I can't believe the shit he's been saying 😂🤣

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 idk whether when the person said ' him' they meant Ironman or the Phoinex

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 They also said that ' Phoinex wouldn't be able to reach it or do anything to it'.

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 I can give you the info on where to find the person

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@A supreme 23 Oh Ok but if you wanna check out what that said it's on a Spiderman vs batman gta video but you said you don't want or need their info so ok

Wow, you can slow down a little, bruh! Lol. You've spoken more informed than any on KZread thus far.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

4 жыл бұрын

I need to stop posting vids?? 😢

@ugospotty678

4 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable No don't

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

4 жыл бұрын

Yayyy 😁 I was scared for a second because I love doing this stuff!

@ugospotty678

4 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yeah you shouldn't your good at it. Especially this video, the Phoenix force is downplayed and overlooked and it hurts, it's easily above multiversal. Great video 👌

DO MANGOG.....ASGARDIAN BUSTER

I see oblivion neel

@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556

2 жыл бұрын

It was only an m body but yeah she beats him still

Didn't she defeat Dormammu?

@Emerly808

3 жыл бұрын

She did?when?

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emerly808 I can't remember where I heard that exactly, sorry.

@Emerly808

3 жыл бұрын

@@oisinreilly2639 It's alright" I already found out that she defeated dormammu in the comics😄

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

@@Emerly808 Are you able to send me a scan or link?

@oluwadamilola6233

3 жыл бұрын

Actually dormammu once defeated a phoenix users who was more powerful than jean was with it.

What about the phoenix male character from guardians of the galaxy in the 90s. Touch the ball and I pop up no homo

i have a doubt did jean(after becoming white phoenix of the crown) and scott had a happy ending or not can someone tell me

@dragosanders4234

Жыл бұрын

Yes but it was only after phoenix ressurection where jean gave up the Phoenix that her and Scott tries to have a relationship again

I thing dark phionex can go toe to toe with ful full powered galactus which scales to eternity

The white hot room sounds like a shady massage parlour in Thailand 😘🤣

Isn’t Phoenix High Outerversal? Isn’t Terrax and Silver Surfer multi-galaxy bare minimum?

She is an omega level mutant

@dragosanders4234

Жыл бұрын

Her bio says she's a alpha

Who was the man white Phoenix was talking to in the white hot room.

@oisinreilly2639

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know what ' The Final Batsuit' is?

@aldogrof6700

3 жыл бұрын

Death..I thinks it manifest as a he hobo right..

@thegamingking3509

3 жыл бұрын

Bob the builder

@slibertas1996

3 жыл бұрын

Cyclops

@dragosanders4234

Жыл бұрын

Scott/cyclops

Can Galactus beat Darkseid?

@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, easily

Who needs that stupid gauntlet if you are the POWER itself?i want to see jean toasting thanos

Phoenix has no equal

PATO ¿YA QUEDO EL NUEVO ACAPULCO PINTADO DE ORO?

Tbh I don't really see Phoenix of the Crown being Omniversal. It's never stated in the comics. She's only considered Omniversal in theory-wise. If Spectre were to fight with Phoenix of the Crown at his most powerful, the Phoenix would eventually die out and lose! Make this White Raven or Protege and it will be a Curbstomp against the Phoenix! Raven cuz everyone states her as being a threat to reality (Everything, including the Omniverse). Don't even get me started on what that Divine Entity can do!

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

I think u meant to reply to that giant debate under here! Cause here it just looks like u posting a comment praying that someone accidentally sees it

@aldogrof6700

3 жыл бұрын

The phoenix is literally the source of all (life, creation, destruction and rebirth).It can never truly die just re-manifest which is the same for the Spectre because even though he is also powerful; he is also still finite.

@aldogrof6700

3 жыл бұрын

@Giovanni Balbosa-Mc Intosh No he just doesn't like fanboi who prefers who they like rather than actual factssss.Honestly it just annoys me when people try to put there favs over objectively powerful beings a thing I like to call the 'The Batman Effect'.

@vebzuia4336

3 жыл бұрын

Phoenix is beyond the concepts of dimensions, time and space. It's already been stated to be outerversal easily. You can't destroy something that IS rebirth and destruction itself. People don't understand that the phoenix firebird form is merely a infintismal fragment of the abstract concept of the Phoenix force. The fact that the infistismal fragment(dark phoenix) was stated to be a threat equal to the M'krann crystal(a object being a nexus of all realities) and waged war against professor X across all of the infinite planes of existence. That just shows how powerful the actual concept of the Phoenix force actually is.

@ugospotty678

2 жыл бұрын

What did I just read 🤦

Hey look Thor's mother

@omarscarborough4274

3 жыл бұрын

I hope that turns out not to be true . The only way I'll except this is if Thor turns out to have three parents like one of his sisters.

@SleeperFantasy

3 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure it was one of her hosts like she is literally energy dont know how odin could bang that

@Slyfer80631

Жыл бұрын

Nah

white phoenix of the crown vs oblivion who will win

@ugospotty678

2 жыл бұрын

Wpotc

@Slyfer80631

Жыл бұрын

@@ugospotty678 is it true that White phoenix can take power form other Phoenix force hosts?

@ugospotty678

Жыл бұрын

@@Slyfer80631 Yes

@Slyfer80631

Жыл бұрын

@@ugospotty678 Damn it.

@Slyfer80631

Жыл бұрын

@@ugospotty678 Where would you place me in your strongest versions of Thor list?

Beat Jean grey debatable Phoenix force never.

1.TOAA 2.Ar-thanos 3.AAO 4.True from oblivion 5. Nyx hoi 6. First firmament 7. Molecule man 8. Eternity 8th-never queen 9. Wpotc 8multi 10. hotu 11. galactus LB 12. chaos king 13. god emperor doom,pr- beyonder 14. logos 15. pr-living tribunal , protege 16. eternity seventh cosmos, true from lady death 17. infinity 18. dormammu, umar

@edgargalicia5071

2 жыл бұрын

wrong

@suppaseakcharoensin135

2 жыл бұрын

@@edgargalicia5071 เหตุผลครับ ตรงไหนผิด

@suppaseakcharoensin135

2 жыл бұрын

@@edgargalicia5071 why

@ugospotty678

Жыл бұрын

Molecule man, eternity and oblivion don't scale above the phoenix

Phoenix ranking is 12. Eternity is 5 or 6 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@joshuaswartz2844

3 жыл бұрын

Are you ok

@slibertas1996

3 жыл бұрын

Phoenix is 3 or 4 not 12. Only Jesus, Living Tribunal and maybe Molecule Man are more powerful than the Phoenix.

@ugospotty678

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Who knows. These entities are nerfed whenever it serves the plot.

@michaelgarcia5680

8 ай бұрын

Considering Phoenix was already considered a cosmic entity in just its normal form alone it’s fair to assume it is above them in forms like wpotc

I think Yhwach could beat White Phoenix of the Crown Jean Grey. Like if you agree.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

Oh heckkkkkkk naaaaaaaa oh ahhhhhhhh

@magnaz26

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Lol😂 brah... But I'm dead serious, Yhwach is "That" powerful. But I would have to spoil for you what happened in the "Thousand Year Blood War" Arc of Bleach in order for you to understand why he's so powerful. I have a collection of "Concrete" evidence supporting this, but I wanted to confirm that my case was "Rock Solid" which is why I mentioned this here cause I may be overlooking some important feats of the White Phoenix that you would surely make me aware of, but from all the feats you listed in this video Yhwach would destroy her with low difficulty which I know sounds far fetched but I can prove with the canon sources.

@magnaz26

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable By the way man, let me know if you want to see those scans I claim to have. I've been waiting for you to do a powerscaling of Bleachverse so I can give these scans to you.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 жыл бұрын

I need them to animate that junk so I can get interested in bleach again hahaha

@magnaz26

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Lol 😂 Ok, Bet...

Cosmetology. Hahaha jesus. Thumbs down.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 ай бұрын

Huh