I like to think the writers at DC were tired of being asked which Superman was the main one so they just decided to make Infinite Frontier Superman.

@mick20075

Ай бұрын

Yeah 😂 My honest thoughts is we try fantasy too realist too like what and where was hulk during civil war I'd say doesn't matter just enjoy the film and doesn't need to always add up plus that's alot to plan out Even in life so things just are at times

Superman is such a cool & powerful character. So many feats & capabilities he has.

@bilenzeray7182

6 ай бұрын

Facts!

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

Indeed ​@@bilenzeray7182

@DahGabriel-gk2cr

6 ай бұрын

True

Superman is a perfect story of what if someone with absolute power was incorruptible

Superman has always been able to control his bio-electrical aura.

DC comics just can't stop one upping themselves 😂😂😂, great video as always bro

@SupremeWhiteBlackman

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and honestly I like it.

I'm one who NEVER thought Superman is over-powered. He's a practical god, DC's Top Dog, and should be capable of making most anyone his bitch, especially a certain mere human who wears a utility belt laden with the heaviest of plot armor.

@daylanmcgee8865

6 ай бұрын

Supermans power is plot armor😂😂😂

@MrLourie

6 ай бұрын

@@daylanmcgee8865 I deliberately responded as I did expecting someone would respond as such. Superman is based on science fiction, he's an alien, there are reasons for his abilities and accomplishments as based on scifi. None of this applies to Batman, a human, only an extremely exaggerated character with no excuse for his abilities but plot armor. 😄😄😄

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@MrLourieno like aside from his kryptonian genetics he’s literally protected by dc because of his ties to the metaverse and his story

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@MrLourie- that’s really dc’s canonical explanation of why he does shit that would normally be way out of his league when in dire situations when hope is needed most, plus a lot of people don’t know this but superman quite literally amped by hope energy

@user-td2jw9ze2c

Ай бұрын

Fate, Swamp Thing Adult Raven, Spectre would dog walk him, many heroes and characters would too.

Arguably the strongest character in fiction

@darrendyson8347

6 ай бұрын

Even Dr Manhattan questioned if he could be destroyed by him lol

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

Dr Manhattan would one tap supes ngl

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

6 ай бұрын

Incorrect. PpI need to stop making cIaims like this.

@daylanmcgee8865

6 ай бұрын

No where close

@mrblue3879

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 do u realize how bad Manhattan got power cliffed? Pariah would body BAT Manhattan and superman no diffed paraiah

Yeah it's official, Superman is not considered a Herald anymore... Supermans casually a Skyfather nowadays, wouldn't suprise me in the next recton. SPOM will probably be a new form, probably become an actual abstract or new reality warping abilities that's permanent etc. In other words, their's no limits to Superman anymore to his potential and it's really up to Clark now.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

Don't get too excited yet lol You know how DC and Comics do with these temporary power-ups 😢

@tacoshop7722

6 ай бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yeah, But he also looks like he is maybe even still getting stronger currently with the Sister shadow One shot and now his fight with bizarro (Being able to power through all of the most powerful magic in creation).

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@tacoshop7722what comics specifically are you referring to

@tacoshop7722

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 sister shadow fight is in the Action comics Annual 2023. And the Bizarro one is Action comics 1061.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@tacoshop7722thanks bro

Man keep those superman videos coming love em

The depth, variety, and frequency of your uploads is insane! As a years-long viewer, mad appreciative of your work Ivan.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

Nice to see my stuff keeps u sticking around !!!

@mel-el5862

5 ай бұрын

Yo In up in the sky. Dr.fate, swamp thing, flash, wonder woman the entire league lost to some op armored robots with the strongest metal in the universe. Flash was too slow to keep up. Superman managed to defeat an entire army/fleet of those by himself as the last man standing. Every single armored bot around the earth was destroyed by superman alone. This scales supes above swamp thing and all the others in the league. The metal is able to travel through black holes while carrying stars through galaxies ect. ​@@IvaNTheUnStoppable

Rebirth Superman time.

Make a series of Wonder Woman next

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

🤔

@ShawnKuhn-hv4qz

6 ай бұрын

Honestly just infinite frontier WW she's crazy

Defo using this Chanel for more feats

Did you mention superman lifting the cosmos so the one God could go to his daughters wedding?

@soloknight7197

5 ай бұрын

Which daughter? He had 4 and one is absolutely terrible

@rossjones8426

Ай бұрын

The Author debunked that o Twitter it was a metaphor for Superman being Axis of earth.

@conservativecarnage3783

Ай бұрын

@@rossjones8426 it was a literal comic feat bull.

Great...thats was trully well done. Can you please one on Ultraman too? Thanks🙏

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

I'm shcoked ppl still care about ultraman after all these supes vids!

@patsander5634

6 ай бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable the way you present the scaling is always a masterpiece... But i think ppl underestimate ultraman...and your the one qualified to give him some shine😊. PLEAAAASE🙏

Sentry fanboys: "Sentry can beat TOAA and Superboy Prime" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@RobertSpiller

3 ай бұрын

who is TOAA and how do you figure sentry can beat Superboy Prime?

@BARDOCK550

3 ай бұрын

@@RobertSpiller that's what Sentry fanboys beleive

@RobertSpiller

3 ай бұрын

@@BARDOCK550 Yes...Thor has beaten Sentry before...but some of these writers are stupidly sick and do not write according to how powerful this or that super hero is. Supes is very powerful, but according to Ivan, I think Thor is up to the task. Like Supes, he has multiple powers and abilities.

@vortechx7176

3 ай бұрын

@@RobertSpiller Thor is probably one of the few beings that has the best chance. even if Superman beats him it will be one of the hardest fights of his life. same with Hulk and Spawn

@heralldinnall3007

Ай бұрын

Neither the Sentry or Superman can beat the TOAA...

Superman still isn't ever reaching the endless

@windandcloudshadow158

6 ай бұрын

So? The Endless are overrated and not even top 10 in Dc.

@ItachiUchiha_1724

6 ай бұрын

@@windandcloudshadow158 they are literally the top 10 Death destiny destruction dream desire despair delusion The only 3 higher than them is 1.Elaine belloc 2.The Presence 3.lucifer morningstar

@windandcloudshadow158

6 ай бұрын

@@ItachiUchiha_1724 Stop relying on outdated Vertigo lore the current being above the Endless are 1. The Great Darkness 2. The Source/Presence/Overvoid 3. Pralaya 4. The Hands/ Super Celestials 5.The Empty Hand 6. IF Darkseid 7. TDK 8. Superboy Prime 9. Perpetua at full strength 10. Unkindness Raven 11. Morning Star/ Michael 12 Mandrakk/ CAS not in any order this is just a list there are more but i'm pretty bored. Vertigo fanboys need to stay current.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@windandcloudshadow158Daniel(the curent dream of the endless) was scared of barbatos and superman scales above characters like barbatos and world forger currently. Idk how he would scale in relation to the other endless though

@windandcloudshadow158

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 The Story of Superman and Hope is more powerful then the Endless for sure but it's kinda hard to gauge.

I scale Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint (New 52) SM from galaxy-high universal and low multiversal w/sundipping..Rebirth SM being a merger of both SM,with all their experiences, memories,powers and abilities..I scale Rebirth SM from low multiversal-high multiversal and up to high complex multiversal possibly hyperversal w/sundipping..

Yo! Think you could do a video about Arkham Deathstroke?

Yeah..

I can't access the live chat anymore

Video suggestion cell from dbz

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

It's up! Hope u enjoy

Hi man are you still doing superman videos if you are can I ask you something can you do a video about how powerful is kwaku anansi the first spider man and I know peter is the main spider man but kwaku anansi in marvel he is an African god connected to the spider totems

Well done Ivan!! I would say this should end your Superman power scaling with the main current timeline version. I was thinking though maybe you should end it with a Fleisure Superman!? What do you think? 🤔

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

I do think this is the main bulk of the Superman raid !!

@darrendyson8347

6 ай бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable as you can see from earlier I agree but Fleisure Superman kickstarted Superman in media and is where it all started right after the cheap $0.10 comics. Though I agree this is just basically younger Superman just touching down in metropolis just starting to fly so yeah I get it.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

Nah he just did something even more insane in action comics 1061, he fought bizarro(while still holding back obviously) who asbroed the the magical energy of the most powerful/accomplished sorcerers in dc. Bizarro was using body parts from Fifth dimensional imps to cast his peels just to put into press how I dance bizarro is and supes is by slugging it out with him

High outerversal imma go ahead and just say it 🤷🏾‍♂️

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

Yup super man is high outerversal at best but I hate it when people over wank him to boundless

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lu6yz7rq3jdepends on how you scale the dc cosmology.

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 yes super man is high outerversal

@youngcactusjack

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lu6yz7rq3jI truly don’t believe in boundless scaling for no characters because in all fiction and we see it all the time that “boundless” characters are never truly boundless they are 9.9/10 still bound to or by something

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

@@youngcactusjack yes nobody in fiction is boundless

Superman is a god myself

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

5 ай бұрын

Basically

@rossjones8426

Ай бұрын

Do you by himself, I don't think you are a god.

The GREATEST fictional character EVER😤😤😤😤

Hey Brazilian here, what do you do to find out how strong the character is in a specific writer's version? example: how strong is jason aaron's thor.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

I guess only read the comics written by that guy !

@RobertSpiller

3 ай бұрын

Not no Jason aron, the worst writer of Thor in history. Thor I believe is on par with Superman...just find the video of him here on Ivan's pages. No anybody in the world but Jason Aaron. According to a guy named Stan Lee, Thor is the most powerful being in Marvel, and that doesn't include All fathers and some cosmic beings.

Genesis is Warworld's white powered sun mineral, which is as you revealed in this video, the crystalized blood of the Old God, Olgrun, who is supposedly insanely powerful. The fact that Kal-El/Clark said that he is supposedly stronger than he has ever been in his whole career is pretty damn bold, crazy and interesting. However, that could also be debatable IMO because we remember how strong he was during the Silver Age of Comics where he was able to drag an immeasurable among of planets across space on a ginormous chain. As for his other new powers, he has energy construct creation, mechanokinesis, and as you just showcased, teleportation (as if Superman needed that lol). Anyways, regardless of that epic power upgrade, Superman is at the end of the day one of the most powerful superheroes of all time.

@Christo_Trismegistus

4 күн бұрын

Batman still beats him

@charlesgorman5188

4 күн бұрын

@@Christo_Trismegistus Lol whatever

Do doomsday from dcamu

New and old things with Superman - He created a superman kung -fu. He created a mental state which makes him immune to mind control. Bizarro created a spell that nobody in the universe was able to overcome....except superman. He took in the pain that Batman was not able to overcome (his zoro feat) and it did nothing to him. His willpower was too strong for Myziplic (sp horrible). He is the embodiment of hope. Doc Manhattan said that he could not be affected by reality warping because he was integral to the DC universe. Superboy Prime is merely a representation of what it would actually look like if he did not hold back. Infinite frontier supes literrally has all the memories and experience of all the superman that have ever existed.

@rossjones8426

Ай бұрын

Reread the story Both Bizarro and Superman were inside each other's head that is how Superman reverse the spell.

@user-td2jw9ze2c

Ай бұрын

Prime is a different varinag and many of his feats were out of context, like the weakened anti monitor for an example. Base Superman would not be able to do anything prime did without amps.

Superman today can defeat until superboy prime

Whats funny is ppl think our sun is yellow when its really white💯

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

I guess on dc earth it’s yellow lol hahahahah

@Christo_Trismegistus

4 күн бұрын

That's racist.

Yea he's basically new 52 and post crisis fused together. I don't think their powers combined would make the most powerful superman, precrisis and prime should still be more powerful, but there's no doubt this superman would be way up there for sure, probably 3rd strongest I would guess.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

Post crisis is literally stronger than pre crisis supes lol

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

Anyway that doesn’t matter cuz all of mainline dc universe’s history became one after the hands reset the dc universe in death metal

@hoppeanofasgard1365

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 Evidence for this?

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@hoppeanofasgard1365 which one comment do you need evidence for in specific

@hoppeanofasgard1365

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 that post is stronger than pre

Didn't know superman got Goku's MUI energy Cloak. 😂🤣😂

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

😳

So hes low multiverse plus in base and hyperverse level at peak when hes going all out at full power

@kawakiuzumaki5934

5 ай бұрын

He has outersal scaling when you actually look into the context of what some of these structures mentioned in the vid are

@rossjones8426

Ай бұрын

Only when sundipped

@overdrivety

Ай бұрын

​@@rossjones8426actually he's low outerverse level to high outerverse level when he sun dippeds

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

Ай бұрын

​@@overdrivetysuper man has done high outerversal scaling even when not sundipped

Can this superman take on Beerus the god of destruction?

@kawakiuzumaki5934

3 ай бұрын

He one shots him

@John_808

2 ай бұрын

Really bruh 😑😑😑 Stop overratin the fuck outta DBZ

@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5

7 күн бұрын

hop off that meat

@Christo_Trismegistus

4 күн бұрын

You're crazy. If someone like Batman beats Superman then any DBZ character would dog walk Superman. Master Roshi would Kamehameha superman to dust

@John_808

3 күн бұрын

@@Christo_Trismegistus Ur retarded Superman literally fuckin walked through that dumbass kamehameha go and watch death battle 3-0 Cope harder Kamehameha and dragon ball is nothin in front of Superman Cry

To sum up some confusion in the fanbase, Rebirth Superman is still technically the main Superman that you see currently in Dawn Of DC. All of his feats and histories go from the Post Crisis Era and onward. The scan that a lot of people take out of context in Death Metal was the Hands explaining to Diana that all histories and stories would be restored. But what a lot of people take out of context is what the Hands was referring to, and it was referring to the entire Multiverse, and not just the main DC universe. So current day Superman is NOT a full composite of every mainline version of the character. To even add more proof to my statement, it's been established in Doomsday Clock that with the new Multiverse being created, the Silver Age universe (Earth-1) has changed into Earth-1985 by Dr Manhattan. Dr Manhattan explains that the Multiverse is meant to showcase every era of Superman. So you can't really use feats from the Silver Age or the Golden Age to powerscale this current version of Superman. I guess you can use the Golden Age Superman's feats because that version of Superman fought Post Crisis Superman, but they're weren't going all out on each other. And no, their battle was never destroying space and time. It was every one else in that story trying to save the Multiverse from collapsing in on itself, while those two versions of Superman were fighting at the same exact time. Superman is a very powerful character, but a lot of people hype him up way too much. He has a lot of moments in the comics that are taken out of context and are overly exaggerated by the fanbase

@TEAMSTERLOCAL282NYC

6 ай бұрын

It’s been confirmed by DC that all Superman’s past feats apply to ReBirth Superman meaning they’re all the same.

@NaWaAmogus

6 ай бұрын

What do you mean they werent destroying Space Time? Alexander Luthor stated their clash was required to break the boundaries so the machine could separate the universes

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

​@@NaWaAmogusexactly

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

​@@TEAMSTERLOCAL282NYCEx😢

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

​@@TEAMSTERLOCAL282NYCExactly

They should make him… STRONGER!!!!!!

@DahGabriel-gk2cr

6 ай бұрын

They already have and they keep making him stronger

@youngcactusjack

6 ай бұрын

@@DahGabriel-gk2crno we have to get to the points he’s blinking fictions away😂💀

@carlosvids7473

6 ай бұрын

@@DahGabriel-gk2cr STRONNNNNNGGEEEEERRRRRR

@Mister_qw897

3 ай бұрын

​@@youngcactusjack lets make him so strong that he will be able to *actually* breake 4 wall!

So let me ask you this....Thor vs Superman...who do you think would win? I think that in an instant, Thor can summon all the kryptonite on and in the earth to vastly weaken Superman, or maybe even kill him.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 ай бұрын

Thats a tough fight!

@RobertSpiller

3 ай бұрын

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yes and even though I like Thor, Superman is no where near a chump. Maybe even a draw but if not, Supes has that weakness for that green rock...based on that Thor take it. And Thor can move just as fast as Superman.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

3 ай бұрын

@@RobertSpillercurrent superman is immune to Kryptonite

@RobertSpiller

3 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 OK...whatever. So now he is almighty god now. I no longer care.

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

3 ай бұрын

He's not almighty God You just got to be able to punch hard enough to hurt him lol no need for kryptonite

Back in 1978 and 79 Superman was able to lift and there's proof if you watch the original motion picture he held up and forced back together the state of California let me repeat that Luther made an earthquake that was going to make California fall into the sea Superman flew into the fault line and held up and forced back together the state of California DC Comics have been nerfing him for many many years now sum of powers you mentioned in this comic that's coming out I don't follow Superman anymore I'm 53 years old yes some of them are just ridiculous but able to knock dark side out or any of the beings from the planet apocalypse or the planet genesis where the new gods are he was able to beat anybody they put against him back then they've been nerfing him for years while Marvel Comics and some other comic companies an anime companies have been making heroes that is stronger I for one being a lifelong Superman fan I am tired of this he should have his infinite strength infinite durability and infinite speed put back into him I did like your review however and I thank you for that very much but somebody's gotta honor this man because they keep screwing him over in comics so I like to remember Superman for what he was than what he is now some of the actors that played him were very well done and I enjoyed them them the movies that they were in however not so much with the exception of Smallville I hope one day DC can make up their mind and just leave him alone stop trying to get new fans by changing him they should leave him the way he is and let fans decide if they like him or not thank you I also wanted to add that Superman is a cosmic being do the math yourself he flies in space he flies beyond the speed of light he may not be able to change reality but he certainly could withstand it and I really liked your video thank you very much for putting it it's about somebody talks about this man's power thank you again

It's heavily implied that Barbatos is weakened when he punched him.

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

He said it in the video

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

He was just restrained by chains strong enough to hold him by Mar Novu, nothing points towards his physical stats being down though.(especially in this context of his durability)

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 even though a restrained barbatos is strong enough to kill the world forger super man was also weakened to as well

@Teekayhuey_TK

6 ай бұрын

@@kawakiuzumaki5934 Did you read the entire story of trinity crisis or are you only reading scans. If you did you would know just prior to this scene Superman was being choked out by solemn Grunndy the Batman villain. Not to mention the literal adventure Wonder woman, Superman and Batman are on in this story. If you don't know the trinity is on a adventure to go take crisis energy from perpetua so they weaken her. How strong is Perpetua you ask? The writer of both the entire Perpetua saga and Barbatos Saga Scott Snyder makes it abundantly clear in the imaginery axis(KZread channel) interview at 36:35 min that perpetua is only Universal. So unless your making the argument that every DC power house character can knock out Barbatos, who was pulling the 52 universes into the dark multiverse. You would need to ignore the entire story to claim that Barbatos is at full power, Because Perpetua is weaker right now than Barbatos is at full power. So unless you can make the claim that superman had the power in that moment to go knock out Perpetua and saying the entire adventure their on is stupid since you claim superman has the power stop Perpetua right then and there. Barbatos was weakened clearly, that's superman after knocking him out says he could call for help. It's not even an argument of different writers because both are written by Scott Snyder. So Barbatos was 100% weakened.

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lu6yz7rq3j We literally have no context on how he killed forger. Just that he did. When we did see how him and world forger interacted, world forger literally held and treated him like a pet, and once again the fact that he’s casually restrained by forger’s brother’s chain is consistent with him being viewed as pet to the monitor brothers. Plus it’s in character for barbatos to use prep to achieve things.

The supernova feat is out of context the panel above state's the shield to contain sun eater was failing thats what Superman was hit with not the supernova .

"he has the standard superman abilities" really now? 🤔 😂

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

Huh

@michaelgarcia5680

6 ай бұрын

What’s wrong with his statement?

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

6 ай бұрын

That's what I was waiting for

DC would be more interesting if the characters have clear power limits and have to use they're powers creatively, rather than having unlimited power and then inevitably getting nerfed for plot-reasons. Remember that scene in The Incredibles where Dash was fleeing from Syndromes men and he had to use his speed creativly? Now contrast that to CW Flash, where he ist fast enough to bullets in slo-mo but gets nerfed so hard the next second that he is vunerable to regular punches. Not to hate on DC but using powers and your enviroment creatively to win fights is more interesting than "Superman is beyond fiction strenght" (imo).

@kawakiuzumaki5934

6 ай бұрын

I’m not into flash like that but dc does have a canonical explanation of why superman is so hard to get rid of because of his ties to the meta verse and his story itself being an archetype for the dc universe. That’s why he’s able to do shit that would normally be out of his league when put in extremely dire situations, plus a lot of people don’t know this but superman is literally amped by the hope energy itself. Not just the sun or other basic energy sources that he gets powers from.

IvaN I like your videos but I still have to mention why superman saying he can destroy the phantom zone is on the same level of King Kai saying Namek saga frieza can destroy the universe. The comic it's from is Superman Vol 5 issue 5, the comic series is called the Unity saga and it's primarily against Rogol Zaar. Who is Rogol Zaar you ask? Rogol Zaar is the new destroyer of Krypton. Why is he important you ask? Because he not only defeated superman but also supergirl in Man of Steel volume 2 issue 4. In issue 6 he gets sent into the phantom Zone. Rogol Zaar does not escape the phantom zone. The next time we See him is in the Unity Saga Superman vol 5 issue 4, when the entire Earth gets sent to the phantom zone. This is when Superman states that Rogol Zaar is his PHYSICAL equal and fighting him would be a waste of time. So during the confrontation Superman avoids fighting Rogol Zaar and faces Rogol Zaars army. In Superman vol 5 issue 5 Superman after distracting Rogol Zaars army and getting the earth out of the phantom zone, is bleeding and taking a beating from Rogol Zaar. Superman then flys away from Rogol Zaar, Zaar let's him run since superman has no way of leaving the phantom zone. YOU THEN get the scan that's showed in this video, where superman says he can destroy the phantom zone. Which is hyperbolic because as it gets established in the comic itself Rogol Zaar, who is supermans equal, as stated by superman, can not escape the phantom zone. This is further established that after superman, gets over that scan scene, Superman goes to Rogol Zaar to ask him questions and states confidently to Rogol Zaar that he will never escape the phantom zone. General Zod pops and Both attack Rogol Zaar in issue 6 and Superman mid way through the fight gets taken away by earths Heros. Even though Rogol Zaar had taken damage from both Zod and Superman, Rogol Zaar still ends up winning the fight against Zod after superman leaves mid fight. Rogol Zaar had proven over and over to be on Supermans level and even more, YET He doesn't just destroy the phantom zone. The story makes it clear Rogol Zaar doesn't have the power to destroy the phantom zone, because if he could do it he would do it and escape. IvaN I know that, to you these videos are a hobby and you dont much care and that's fine and I don't blame you I just know superman fans do this, by leaving out such context. Also this is me leaving out the part of the story in the comic "the man of steel vol 2 issue 6" where Rogol Zaar needed a Bomb to destroy the earth before being trapped in the phantom zone in the first place.

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

U are trying to say that super man is dumb with that statement his fight with rogop zaar shook the phantom zone and he scale to doomsday who broke out of the phantom zone

@Teekayhuey_TK

6 ай бұрын

@user-lu6yz7rq3j No I am saying Superman shook a section of the phantom zone not the whole thing. It's like saying the earth shook when the is a earthquake. Also the clear fact that Rogol Zaar didn't escape is clear clarification he can't destroy it since Rogol Zaar is so intrinsically tied to the story and he doesn't destroy the phantom zone and neither does Superman believe Rogol Zaar can escape even though we have clearly seen his both his equal and even stronger considering he still beat General Zod even being handy capped. Also Doomsday never broke the phantom Zone. In the comic (2014) issue 11 that Xa-Du a Dimensional traveler aided Doomsday break through the phantom zone and GAVE DOOMSDAY THE ABILITY to Dimensional travel between the phantom zone and earth. DC has a colorful way of explaining things, it's dc scalers that will try to use that to mean what they want it to mean rather than what it actually means. The Doomsday feat your describing is part of Superman Doomed story saga( Check the reading order of Superman doomed). Batman/Superman issue 11 explains how Doomsday, in Superman Doomed issue 1, is able to portal between the phantom zone and earth.

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

@@Teekayhuey_TK he literally stated out of his own mouth that if he put his head into it this entire dimension will cease to exist and he was about to do it

@Teekayhuey_TK

6 ай бұрын

@@user-lu6yz7rq3j It's a clearly unsubstantiated claim from superman himself. The plot and the way they handle Rogol Zaar who displayed power that rivals superman and more powerful than superman in this scenario due to the 1 v 2 handicap he fought. If Rogal can't escape its clear superman can't escape using his power. It's more than likely he is referring to some scientific way rather than power. As he said if I put my hand to it. It's more than likely intelligence claim since Rogol Zaar is a displayed physical equal and stronger than superman due to him having no sun.

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

6 ай бұрын

@@Teekayhuey_TK he was about to use his own power but he stopped himself u are trying to say super man doesn't know what he is saying

Which makes him boring, The writers need to realize they are destroying the character by making almost unbeatable

@IvaNTheUnStoppable

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say they're making him unbeatable. DC has a whole bunch of powerful beings to fight him! Heck beings in his very own Justice League can rival him!

@user-lu6yz7rq3j

Ай бұрын

​@@IvaNTheUnStoppablehey Ivan u do know that current super man is pre crisis as well not just post crisis and new 52

@rossjones8426

Ай бұрын

@@user-lu6yz7rq3j read infinite crisis And Dark knights metal Post-Crisis rebirth and infinite frontier has aways been the reincarnation of precrisis Superman.