King Kai folds King Piccolo & Raditz with his pinky. 💀

@mugenuchiha5335

Ай бұрын

Imagine what would happen if he uses the kaioken against Nappa. X2 or 3 would have obliterate him.

@mugenuchiha5335

Ай бұрын

He would be blocking both of their attacks with one finger each.

@rockk9753

Ай бұрын

For sure and he has kaioken and the spirit bomb hacks confirmed, he is a true god even more than the supreme Kai and Kami, Beerus is also a true god

@mugenuchiha5335

Ай бұрын

@@rockk9753 I wouldn't go that far because if it wasn't for Kami, Goku will not been able to meet King Kai. Can I still praises Supreme Kai, who is just the strongest Goku during the cell games, not to mention without him, beerus would be dead. Every God trees their hardest. What King Kai does deserve his praise.

@rockk9753

Ай бұрын

@@mugenuchiha5335 yeah but he didn't really do much he could have stopped Piccolo but didn't, he was also not going to revive shenron if it wasn't for Goku

Most importantly, he's a walking talking cell phone

@GodMaxDrinkerofTea

Ай бұрын

A walking talking Walkie Talkie

@JoinTheFight_Trump24

Ай бұрын

*nokia theme intensifies*

@Reilophonix

Ай бұрын

​@@GodMaxDrinkerofTea boy u made me laugh so loud, thank you

@MrVariant

Ай бұрын

With dad jokes 😂

@TheRealmDrifter

27 күн бұрын

"Oh, my..."

"You used it on me, didn't work. You used it on Freeza, didn't work! And you didn't even bother using it on Cell!" "Well yeah, that's cause I knew it wouldn't work."

@Jonzerker15

Ай бұрын

the dbza reference is great

@Arkinagoth

Ай бұрын

"...But it will this time, though!"

@rcarfang2

29 күн бұрын

@@Arkinagoth it works in the movies.

@paul-ye3ut

29 күн бұрын

​@@rcarfang2 it kind off killed buu

@Cutthroatrah

25 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

King kai turned tien from being folded by nappa to winning a 1v2 against burter and jeice

@vivienjoly7617

25 күн бұрын

It's filler, it doesn't happen in the manga

@Not_black_imposter

25 күн бұрын

@@vivienjoly7617 ki blast spam didn’t happen in the manga either yet it’s in pretty much every episode

@vivienjoly7617

25 күн бұрын

@@Not_black_imposter you're right, but i think it's quite different, ki blast is just an attack, whose usually not very effective, while the humans vs the ginyu force is a whole episode, and people tend to overestimate the humans strengh because of it, it's not a big problem, but i think it's a lot more important to precise that it's only filler than the ki blasts

@Not_black_imposter

25 күн бұрын

@@vivienjoly7617 I mean he did go on to stun lock cell the next arc so I doubt it’s not cannon he can 2v1 jeice and burter

@vivienjoly7617

23 күн бұрын

@@Not_black_imposter yeah but tien trains for 3 years before that so it's hard to say if he's that strong because of king kai's training or if it's because of his proper training

Well he can hit oponent with very very heavy weight clothes beam 😂

@DRofYouTube

Ай бұрын

Actually that could be a pretty effective attack, make their clothes so heavy that they get crushed to death.

@sonicthomasgamer

Ай бұрын

I’m thinking…. 100 tons

@jeroenvdw

26 күн бұрын

Yeah that's a really OP skill lol. Piccolo can do the same, but not sure if he can add those kind of weights as well.

That’s before the kaio ken, I’m pretty sure if he can teach it, he can dish it out… or atkeast at one point he could…😂

@eliseonavarro9168

Ай бұрын

He could with a 2x kaioken with a finishing move

@jorndebello7317

Ай бұрын

I think the highest he can kaio Ken is x2 that's still a power level of 7000

@Nelsito99

Ай бұрын

​@@jorndebello7317is the math right I thought kaioken 1 is 2x the power so kaioken 2 would be 3 times the power no?

@jorndebello7317

Ай бұрын

@@Nelsito99 by times 2, I was talking about normal kaioken

@andrewrenshaw2741

26 күн бұрын

​@@jorndebello7317 he can probably go far beyond x2, he was only serious with Goku because it was a new technique for Goku and never used by a mortal body.

King kai hasn't appeared in dragon ball for a while now I almost forgot about him

@samt.1356

Ай бұрын

The Japanese voice actor for him died a few years ago

@maganhassan2627

Ай бұрын

@@samt.1356 I heard

@Jam-ih7bv

Ай бұрын

Also chichi actor quit and made goku black killed chichi and goten actor didn’t quit so he got revived by dragon balls and goku eat at bulmas

@maganhassan2627

Ай бұрын

@@Jam-ih7bv chi chi is still here after that no?

@WhiteRanger1298

Ай бұрын

​@@samt.1356I missed the part where that's my problem.

"Spirit bomb, when it really mattered..." Nobody tell him about kid buu!

King kai doesn't need to physically beat his opponents, he beats them into submission with humor.

To be fair, the genki dama killed kid buu and it can be argued that in the anime it helped goku unlock ui

Don’t forget the kaioken and spirit bomb are always useful, the kaioken can multiply whatever goku’s using, regardless of how powerful, and the spirit bomb doesn’t solely rely on his energy, so it deals a heavy punch when Goku is too weak to, and can be just as powerful as he needs by just collecting more energy

@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63

25 күн бұрын

That’s on paper. The spirit bomb is one for three in practice.

@DRofYouTube

25 күн бұрын

@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 I believe it’s because the first two were barely acknowledged by the people of the earth/universe, it was more Goku stealing the energy than anything. In the one against Buu, everybody on earth knew they needed to lend Goku his energy, so they were willingly giving all of that up, making it huge and much more impactful, because the hopes and dreams of everyone relied on it, and after all it’s called the spirit bomb, spirit as in the world’s will and determination, so when there was the true spirit of all those people, it was too much for even Majin Buu to handle

King Kai is like Master Roshi. Hes not some big hulking "Big number mean fight better" tank but his knowledge and techniques are far superior and prove to be consistently effective and essential. This ties back to the whole "Its not about numbers, it's about skill" theme that the Saiyan and Freeza sagas had going on before they shat the bed and turned everything into an arms race.

@Vmac1394

4 күн бұрын

I really disliked how martial ARTS became less about technique and more about raw power. Quantifying anything mystical, like ki, is poison to a story since it means the next bad guy has to have even more.

given king kai came up with kayoken and his divine status, I'm pretty sure he could easily push it to like a thousand times.

@testtestsson4927

Ай бұрын

Then he should have gone to earth to fight against the sayijans

@isuckatusernames4297

Ай бұрын

@@testtestsson4927 he's a kai who's entire job consists of making sire the galaxy doesn't blow up, he can't "interfere" that directly, especially for a relatively small undevelopped planet. besides, on a galactic scale, Friezza's empire a boon for the overall mortal level, considering it at least needs to make sure most of the worlds it sells are good quality ones. now if there was to be a threat like majin buu, then he'd need tk get involved or at least ask for his G.O.D to handle it.

@tobyjo4204

Ай бұрын

He’s also like not a earthly being and he lives on a planet with increased gravity, he’d be a menace on earth using kaioken with more efficiency than anyone else I also feel like his spirit bomb won’t take as long to accumulate

@xeratovildan9871

Ай бұрын

considering how often he says shit like "you can't push it past a times 2 it'll kill you" to Goku, a fighter with more endurance and a stronger body than normal being a saiyan, I doubt he can push it past times 2 or times 3.

@isuckatusernames4297

Ай бұрын

@@xeratovildan9871 I mean, since he probs taught that technique to alot of select fighters who's first idea was probably pushing it to high multiplicators first. I like to think that king kai says it more cause he saw alot of mortals dying by going for high multiplyiers.

Kid buu and omega shinron took that personally 😂

the spirit bomb was like either landing a critical hit using ur level 2 spell that resets on short rest and consumes ur turn, or a miss but still doing more than half the damage

I find it hard to believe nappa’s power level was only 4000 seeing how piccolo was WAY weaker and he could contest with goku somewhat

@aaronoldenburger3436

Ай бұрын

It was 7000

@fruitspunchsamuraik

Ай бұрын

@@aaronoldenburger3436 that’d make a lot more sense yeah

@aceclover758

21 күн бұрын

I always though 4K was his standing power level and at full power, he was around 7k

@aaronoldenburger3436

21 күн бұрын

@@aceclover758 exactly

@Shadowlord45

21 күн бұрын

Nappa powerlevel is normally 4000 and 7500 at full power. Mouth blast is around 9000.

Maybe if goku would stop going all out on the super spirit bomb and just used the smaller one it might actually work against an opponent

Spirit Bomb helped Goku get Ultra Instinct

@justinsden

Ай бұрын

That was an accidental miracle. Goku didn’t intend to do that, and the Spirit Bomb 1000% failed when it went up against Jiren and others.

@Il_juventino

Ай бұрын

​@@justinsdenvs kid buu???

@user-vg8tv1hp9c

Ай бұрын

@@justinsdencould you really blame it not working on frieza? Goku had to go SSJ 50x base to beat him. And the one against vegeta was super weakened

@yashdave7559

Ай бұрын

​@@justinsden can we just ignore the fact that king Kai can use kaioken

@Lordbeerus0901

Ай бұрын

​@@Il_juventinoOmega Shenron

The thing with the spirt bomb is that it's at it's best against evil makes sense because everyone else that it was used on had a different veiw based off biology except Buu

King Kai revenge arc when

It’s not that spirit bomb is weak rather the enemy is too strong. But against kid buu it got the job done.

@lemagicbaguette1917

23 күн бұрын

Wasn't it more based on mow pure someone's evil was?

Considering how hyped Kami was, King Kai in OG Dragon Ball would have been epic And I guess he kinda was in Z when introduced, before we saw how strong Saiyans were. We just never saw him fight, just people brag about his skill

Spirit Bomb in the ToP was more of a Task Failed Successfully moment

I'm sure that he's gotten certain special privileges following the defeat of Kid Buu. Given how easily he was able to contact the Grand Kai's own superiors in regards to matters involving Goku or Beerus.

@k-oticheart1573

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, none of the characters introduced during the otherworld tournament arc are canon. Including the grand kai and other kais. They're all filler characters.

@LittleAl016

Ай бұрын

@@k-oticheart1573 They're canon in that they exist.

@eobardthawn6903

Ай бұрын

​@@k-oticheart1573 It's Canon to the anime not the manga. Manga and anime are both different canons, though the Z movies aren't Canon. So they are Canon to the anime.

@gaspar215

Ай бұрын

@@k-oticheart1573oh duck off with this canon non-canon knit picking shit. I swear some people get off on arguing these things.

@k-oticheart1573

Ай бұрын

@gaspar215 I'm not arguing anything. I'm just pointing out why King Kai is talking directly with the Supreme kais. There are literally no canon characters between them in rank. You'll probably never see them again after that arc.

If you assume he can go to Kaioken x4 like Goku can early on, King Kai's 3,500 becomes 14,000 which would put him below only Frieza, the Ginyu Force, Vegeta, Supreme Kai, and Dabura by the point of the story he appears in. He's one of the strongest living beings in Universe 7 before his disciples, the Z Fighters, surpass him.

Goku also benefited from training on a planet that was 10 times Earths gravity. So with it helped with his saiyan zenkai boosts. Plus the journey on snake way probably gave him a tiny boost as well.

"Was sitting onnthe toilet taking a crap, im old it takes me a while, and theres a fucking tree in my living room"

During the Namek Saga its inferred by King Kai, that he could probably beat the Ginyu Force, but falls way short of beating Freiza. At this point though...Ide say that hes probably one character like Popo that because of their nature and divine role, they would probably scale to their opponent...like how we see Popo going toe to toe with Goten and Trunks while they are in SsJ form...

@FinalLegend225

Ай бұрын

he literally says that vegeta and nappa are stronger than him

@lambtoken2708

28 күн бұрын

​@@FinalLegend225 yeah contradictions are kinda common in DB lol don't think too much on that

@guyverjay1289

27 күн бұрын

That was filler bro

King Kai still beats Nappa with Kaioken and possibly Vegeta Saiyan Saga with the Spirit Bomb.

There’s no way piccolo was that close to nappa. Nappa bodied everyone not named Goku all at the same time

@cavalrystyles8776

Ай бұрын

Exactly, definitely resting. His max is likely 7k or 8k

@itsmethethingg

Ай бұрын

The statement is weird because nappa is officially 4k, piccolo was getting bodied harder than he should have

@JJJJ-he8bz

Ай бұрын

@@cavalrystyles8776 I know Nappa is even able to swap hands with Goku for a little bit

@universalshadow

Ай бұрын

I’ve always had Nappa’s PL at 6000

@itsmethethingg

Ай бұрын

Well if we go off of the 20% power level difference then either piccolo had 3200 or nappa had 4200

Got to give props to DBZ side characters. They get the same training as Goku after Goku and manage to sqeeze so much more if it.

Came in clutch at the end of GT tho

King Kai has a power level of 3500 but he is the master and creator of the Kaioken so who knows how many times he can multiply

The spirit bomb always got the job done, one way or another... sorry, Kuririn.

The Spirit bomb did in fact make a difference where it mattered, in that it extended each saga by like 3 episodes.

Prime king kai”Show me what you got Bojack “

It's also worth noting that, like the Grand Kai, King Kai isn't really at his peak anymore. The Kai have a real habit of lazing around and doing basically nothing, and I'd expect his power level used to be substantially greater.

"You used it on me; didn't work. You used it on Frieza, didn't work!! And you didn't even bother using it on Cell!!!"

The spirit bomb really slowed vegeta down and helped them survive long enough to declare a draw. It also killed buu. Who was virtually indestructible

Spirit bomb is the only reason Goku won pretty much every time he used it, even if it didn’t kill outright most of the time

@justinsden

Ай бұрын

LOL WHAT

@She-Devil94

Ай бұрын

Uhh no? It was useless against Vegeta, it didn't get the Job done against Freeza and he didn't even bother to use it against Cell. The only time it ever worked was against Boo and even then, on it's own Kid Boo just would have pushed it back to Goku. They also had to wish Goku back to 100% for it to even work.

@elijahjoe1369

Ай бұрын

@@She-Devil94jiren: 😶‍🌫️

@JaelinBezel

Ай бұрын

@@She-Devil94useless? What? The Spirit Bomb fried Vegeta. It might not have killed him but it cery nearly did and left him basically defenseless and one good stab away from Death.

@She-Devil94

Ай бұрын

@@JaelinBezel He litterally still fought the other earthlings after being hit by the spirit bomb. It took Yajirobi slicing him and Oozaru Gohan falling on him to render him defenseless.

Vegeta's max pre-Namek power level was confirmed during the Namek Saga to be 18,000 it was stated to be the same as Cui (who was his rival at least as far as Vegeta's base level was concerned as Great Ape gives him a 10x multiplier which means his maximum as a Great Ape before he lost his tail was 180,000, provided he transforms naturally via Moonlight as the Power Ball is said to reduce his power level though it isn't clear by how much)! King Kai said it himself during the Saiyan Saga that both the two Saiyans (Nappa & Vegeta) were stronger than him as King Kai despite being the inventor of the Kaio-ken & Spirit Bomb cannot use either technique himself as he just came up with the concept behind them & was able to teach Goku how to master them (in Dragon Ball Online he would also end up teaching the Kaio-ken to the inhabitants of Earth by Age 1000)!

Another fact is that King Kai itself was impressed at how Goku managed to go x3 and 4 meaning King Kai could use the technique but not longer

One thing TFS did right was give King Kia some respect by having him be the person to one-hit the Ginyu Force into HFIL.

You know, I always wondered why King Kai never trained. He could teach mortals his techniques and train THEM to get stronger, but it's as though he's never trained a day in his life. If I were him, I'd be annoyed some random being on a backwater planet was randomly stronger than me.

@davidmartins7647

28 күн бұрын

Are CEOs anoyed that their hand workers are stronger and better at doing their work than himself? No, its the same for King Kai. He's a Kai, his job is not to fight. The same way idk what the hell a CEO does to deserve such appreciation, idk wth King Kai does to deserve his status.

@ChrisTian-ed8ol

28 күн бұрын

@davidmartins7647 True, but then the worker gets discouraged not to do their best because the CEO isn't doing their best. Or in this case, the Kai isn't doing his best to work and improve, therefore, why should the other Z fighters listen to him

do the Goat Gregory and Bubbles next.

Vegeta (talking about spirit bomb): "You used it on me. Didn't work. You used it on Frieza. Didn't work. And you didn't even bother using it on Cell!" Goku: "Well, yeah, because I knew it wouldn't work."

Low power levels should be able to overcome higher levels if they have superior techniques and experience. It would make the newer stuff more exciting instead of just giving everyone random power ups and transformations

I'd love to see Frieza reenact the shiver me timbers meme if Goku ever tried to pull out the Spirit Bomb vs him again

His power level might go up by leaving that planet with high gravity

Spirit Bomb goes crazy in the movies 100% kill rate

When the Ginyu force appeared on his planet, initially he asked the Z Warriors to stay back and he would handle them, until he was distracted. He would not have volunteered to handle them if he felt he was not strong enough.

King Kai should be a playable character in DB fighting games

Well. King Kai is probably more like a good teacher than a real fighter. He's like the old Man in Rocky and other fighting movies. You know he can't fight on his own but he knows how to teach you the best moves to beat the enemy. Thats King Kai

As a vegeta once said to Goku: "You used it me it didn't work" "You used it on frieza it didn't work" "And you didn't even bother using on cell"

Well, his might be a race of non-fighting gods, but i'm sure he know very ancient techniques and spell that surpasses mere material strenght, and we know magic in dragon ball is literally OVERPOWERED

Bruh the genki dama is the dopest shit

Spirit bomb is better in movies and King Kai's telepathy helped a ton, especially the dragon ball plan vs frieza where surprisingly goku could intervene to say not to wish him away so he can fight frieza to the finish.

Imagine King Kaï using the Kaïoken 🤯🤩

@Ayuima69

Ай бұрын

His name is in it, it's his move .

@Jonzerker15

Ай бұрын

it’s just king kai with red aura it’s not even that mind blowing to imagine

Sure, but the Spirit Bomb ended Buu the biggest threat in Z. Its consistency doesn't really matter when it is the series winning move.

Funnily enough tho. I think the only time the Spirit Bomb actually took out a villain was Kid Buu. And well,that's pretty much it if I recall correctly. 😅

His name is Kayosama, and his techniques: Kayoken and Genkidama... Love them af

lol... how about if king Kai used kiaoken to boost his powers?

@_ChildofYeshua_

Ай бұрын

But he can only X2 it So I guess he could defeat nappa

@yashdave7559

Ай бұрын

​@@_ChildofYeshua_ then nappa can probably also use oozaro

@_ChildofYeshua_

Ай бұрын

@@yashdave7559 if king kai allowed it i guess. king kai is a god though so he knows all about it and prolly wouldn't allow it

The Spirit Bomb literally took out the most evil force in the universe at the time.

He also knew instant transmission. He could have grabbed both Vegeta and Radditz and left them in space 😅

Yea, but his comedy level is over 9000!

In fact those Kaioken real power isn't Their strengh but *Supernatural and spiritual power*

Glad they brought back kaioken as a spirit bomb would take 2 episodes to charge and be ineffective

King kai, being a kai will most likeley have god ki which was never measured or stated. So that may be just his ki that mortals can read.

King Kong don't need a fight he always be in peace 😁

We can assume King Kai can use the Kaio Ken... and instant transmission... and who knows how many other techniques. He just didn't have enough time to teach them cause... well they were only on his planet for months, and then he was too mad at Goku after cell to teach him the good stuff.

Kinda make me wonder how the hell did the 4 king kias manage to trap bojack and his gang. . They should make a movie on it. . More than likely they probably used a spell trapping enchantment.. kinda like master roshi with that lil vile he uses

I miss the brilliant writing from those times.....

I always thought that King Kai and Mr Popo’s power levels were in constant state of flux, making it near impossible to grasp or quantify exactly how powerful they were. That Mr Popo in particular was exceptionally strong, but was a devout pacifist, rendering one of the strongest beings on earth moot when it came to facing invading forces and powerful foes.

I always thought that 4000 was too low for Nappa. After he got his shit together and took Goku seriously, he managed to exchange blows with him pretty evenly. Goku even stated that if Nappa's mouth blast had hit him (Goku blocked it with a point-blank Kamehameha) he would have been in serious problems. Considering Goku is "over 8k"... I would guess Nappa is anywhere between 7k and 8k (when focused).

Its a bummer we dont geg to see much of him lately 😅

I do believe he also knew instant transmission, but refused to give it to him in the battle battle of the sayings

Im surprised you dont see him use the spirit bomp more often in the movies, he seems to mostly throw a little ball or punch through them.

@ArrancarfighterOfficial

26 күн бұрын

Nvm I get it. Pacing.

He also has access to his Kaio Ken technique as well and us not knowing how far he can push it wed assume at least a x2 to 7000 but maybe even to Gokus x20 giving him a massive 70,000.

I don't think this video is giving him enough credit. Since he can use the Kaio Ken, it means he probably could have solo'd Nappa. Especially if we assume he's completely mastered the form like Goku had by the time he fought Frieza (ie turning it on and off for a split second on impact instead of inefficiently using it as if it were a transformation).

"NOOOOOO, I'll give ya three! Used it on me, didn't work....used it on frieza didn't work! AND YOU DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO USE IT ON CELL!!!" -Vegeta Goku-" yah cause I knew it wouldn't work" 😂😂

I like to think the reason the spirit bomb fails is it takes into consideration potential good too that’s why it really only worked against the literally pure evil Kid buu

@midorisetsuna7334

12 күн бұрын

You mean its just a weaker version of devil man's devilmite beam and it doesn't even matter how much energy he absorbs for it?

If King Kai created both the Kaioken and Spirit bomb, couldn't we expect him to be able to not just use them, but actually use them very well. Just as an example, King Kai jumped onto Goku via telepathy when he decided to go x3 and then x4 Kaioken against Vegeta. The way he worded it, at least in the dub I remember was something like "Goku you dummy! I told him not to go over x2, his body isn't trained for that yet!" I want to emphasize that last bit "his body isn't TRAINED for that YET" Well, I guess you could argue that maybe he could just somehow tell that the Kaioken could be pushed beyond x2. However, I really think he could probably go anywhere from x3 to x10 himself. Still nothing incredible, but at x3 he's at a little over 10K, then at x5 he's almost even with Vegeta, and at x10 he's almost double. Then there is the spirit bomb, considering he's a Kai, it's possible his spirit bomb could be special in some way, or just it may be easier for him to draw in life energy to create one. Dude could probably pump out a 100k+ power level SB with no major issues. I can actually see a scene where king Kai just sits in his world drawing energy from all over the universe until he makes a bomb bigger than his whole planet, just to send it to Goku somehow. Goku will have made his own spirit bomb and tossed it at Vegeta, and Vegeta would struggle but eventually stop the spirit bomb, only to hear Goku adopt a really deep voice and say something like "good job Vegeta, you've stopped the spirit bomb... But now what will you do about the second one?", then Vegeta loses all hope when he sees a second spirit bomb slowly moving into the back of the first. Goku turning Madara hype aside, one more thing you aren't saying: King Kai is a KAI. He has god Ki. If I'm not mistaken god Ki is way more potent than regular Ki. His 3500 in divine power could very well be like 35,000,000 in regular power. Probably not, but it could be.

“Congratulations, you just defeated the equivalent of three radditz.” “That’s right, you son of a bitch, I…” “Nappa here is worth five radditz.” “But I” “And I am worth fifteen.”

King Kai's value is not in raw power. He's a great example of why utility and technique are superior to just punching really hard, which is very in line with martial arts philosophy.

It doesn't matter really if his base power level is unimpressive. King Kai mastered the Kaio Ken, he can raise that power many times, as much as he needs to in order to get the job done. Spirit bomb as well, he compensates for his own unimpressive power level with techniques that either utilise the power of others or massively enhance his own power. With King Kai you're not battling raw power, you're battling an expert strategist with millennia of cunning and experience. He may not be Lord Beerus but he's clever and that's why he's the King.

His name is in the move, maybe he can do times 10,000. 35,000,000 for a little bit which is all you need. It's what I would do if I had nothing but time. Can absorb spirit bombs and pump himself further with kaioken and have a body by the end of it that could take the taxing of an obscene kaioken multiplier.

King Kai could use kaioken to defeat Nappa with ease. It’s also impressive Piccolo almost matched with NAPpA in terms of power. It goes to show how much of a threat he can be.

I never even thought about that… The spirit bomb is like 1 for 3 isn’t it. Used on Vegeta Frieza and Buu but only killed Buu

“Goku, you’ve literally never come up with a technique of your own.” “Ya huh, what about the Spirit Bomb?” “That was mine.” “Okay… well what about the Kaioken?” “Goku… it has my fucking name in it.”

At this point Toriyama was trying to show power levels didn't mean much. Skill and technique meant a lot more than raw strength. And I think it was a missed opportunity to show King Kai playing with Goku during a sparing match like it was nothing. And then revealing Goku was more than double King Kai's power.

It's almost like the Spirit Bomb is a weaker version of a Haki.

@LikablSouL

Ай бұрын

Weaker version of soul punisher*

@keno88

Ай бұрын

It’s nothing like Haki, soul punisher perhaps but even then a stretch

King Kai would fight using esoteric mystic abilities that nobody could predict. I imagine he has similar abilities to a Supreme Kai, and just doesn't use them much. This would make him nearly impossible to defeat by most opponents just because of his use of trickery. I do believe that if King Kai really wanted to, he could have saved earth from the Saiyans, but chose not to because it wasn't his place to. Also Goku.

Even if 3500 were accurate, he still has access to kaioken x2. He states to Goku to never go beyond that level. So it stands to reason, that is kiao-sama’s limit.

The Spirit Bomb (Genkidama) was never enough in the series. The enemies always came back.

@sktizo

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But it always fucked them up bad lol weakened then enough to be dealt with except buu

@lilarrin1220

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​@@sktizoalso freeza, pre-ssj goku would not have been able to defeat him after the bomb especially considering he wasn't even at 100%

@sktizo

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@lilarrin1220 oh yeah good call bro, it's been awhile i totally forgot.

Spirit bomb did it's job, it's the ability to condense a vast amount of nearby energy, and only harms evil. It fucked up vegeta but he wasn't totally evil, The namekian one with limited life was too small for frieza sets their battle up perfect and it destroyed buu who who's body unlike cell could not be destroyed otherwise right after spitting out the last bit of good he had in him.

My question would be, to what level can he use the kaioken. I'd be willing to guess up to the hundreds since he's invented it and had an eternity to practice it. Based off his reactions to different enemies I think he could take on the ginyu force, but get wreck instantly by frieza.

The only time the Spirit Bomb was successful was Buu. And it sure put a hurting on Vegeta and Frieza when they felt it.

Hey nice vid and all but u got nappas power level wrong when vegeta told him gokus power level was 6000 and nappa was like meh that low so it cant be 4000

If he can use Kaioken, he could go to maybe 10500, not sure how it works, but I think he only mastered the times two one. And I belife it doubles your base Power.

@BlackMasterRoshi

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I wouldn't be surprised if he could do more than double. he only warned an inexperienced guy like Goku from using more than double.

It all depends on how well he can use kaioken. Im sure he can use more than x2 since he is the creator of the move. He'd need a x4 to keep up and a x5 to win im sure