With the angel reference for Columbina I could imagine her boss form being that "biblically accurate angel" looking boss and it’s going to be scary af.

@zeestar0112

Жыл бұрын

a six winged angelic manticore would be badass

@justadragonnamemarcus1751

Жыл бұрын

Nah she gains amoug us angel form and 1 shoot your entire team

@angeldude101

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many people forget about the Travelers' sets of 6 ethereal wings each, along with their generally angelic designs (especially Lumine). Also what you might call "scary af," someone else might call "cool" and another might call "adorifying."

@zeestar0112

Жыл бұрын

@@angeldude101 agreed. I think biblical accuracy is both cool and horrifying. It makes me wonder how our concept "Eldritch Horrors" might stem from the same religion that claims all others are false and heretical. (And that's without mentioning the unoriginality)

@kokonut7342

Жыл бұрын

@@angeldude101 I don’t mean to call it scary in an offensive way I don’t find them "disgusting" by any mean I think they look really cool and scary at the same time, the first time I discovered angels look like THAT really fascinated me too.

The first time I saw Tartaglia go super saiyan and transform into a seven foot one eyed monster that yeets a giant ass whale, I was like "That's the lowest ranking Harbinger! This dude is the weakest!?"

@williamsl655

Жыл бұрын

Ikr?

@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059

Жыл бұрын

At this rate Pierro is gonna pick up Khaenri’ah and chuck it at us.

@stupidpotato-bi7il

Жыл бұрын

i just thought the transforming sequences as like the magical girl tranformation

@Geraldo_Rivian

Жыл бұрын

@@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 "bigger, bigger, BIGGER!!! PERFECT!"

@Geraldo_Rivian

Жыл бұрын

Wait till Capitan removes his helmet and says *BANKAI*

Aether: why are you a harbringer? Pantalone: *I'M RICH*

@FWU100

Жыл бұрын

Well Batman is a super hero because of that

Personally, if i were in genshin i'd just solo all the harbingers but ig nobody else thought of that

@ChillwithAster

Жыл бұрын

Pizza rat supremacy

@PizzaRatJC

Жыл бұрын

The polar star stuff is just what would be on their thombstones if i showed up to deal woth the situation

@neros398

Жыл бұрын

ALL HAIL PIZZA RAT

@boruto536

Жыл бұрын

@@PizzaRatJC we are doing just that

@boruto536

Жыл бұрын

@@ChillwithAster there is no way that u just said GEASS

The fact that the Cryo Archon has been harboring such dangerous and deranged individuals is the one that really intrigues me. What happened to the Tsaritsa that drove her to madness and form the Fatui Harbingers?

@Heirou_09

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the Jesus and the 12 disciples somehow

@alexpolicarpio5352

Жыл бұрын

@@Heirou_09 When it comes to having a sense of higher purpose then yeah

@alexanderpalmarin7840

Жыл бұрын

​@@Heirou_09 the false prophet perhaps?

@Heirou_09

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderpalmarin7840 I forgot about the false prophet (I haven't went to church for so long) but what I meant is that Jesus chose some "interesting" (I dont know how to describe it help) people to be the disciples just like the Tsaritsa choosing such "interesting" harbingers

@spiralspural8806

Жыл бұрын

Love

What if Sandrone was the big mechanism behind the girl and not the girl herself? What if it was an act and the mechanism behind her is her real body?

@itz_moonwolf1480

Жыл бұрын

That would be very cool considering the fact that she’s the puppeteer. I kinda hope they do this

@siddhantroy8969

Жыл бұрын

💀

@UberWraith

Жыл бұрын

This is my same theory as well. Sandrone in 'Commedia dell'Arte' was at first represented as a puppet and has a wife and a child (which like him at first were puppets themselves), namely Pulonia and Sgorghigolo. What if the 'Ruin Guard' is in fact a sentient Khaenri'an construct (think of Johnny 'Number 5' from Short Circuit) that basically start to build himself a family (with the 'petit doll' as his wife and the Katherynes as his daughters)? The possibilities are endless...

@Krisito

Жыл бұрын

@@zeestar0112 thats frankenstein not pinnocio

@zeestar0112

Жыл бұрын

@@Krisito that's the point =]

The character of Columbina, in the original piece, is said to be very smart and able to manipulate people in a way that would always place her in an advantageous position. That said, perhaps that’s why she is ranked third. Maybe her powers are all about hypnosis, manipulation & enchantment. For example, she could control people through her singing. Edit : one of Scaramouche’s voice lines got leaked and it was about Columbina. To summarize what he said, he described her as someone who seems mentally absent, and he added that if he were to meet an individual like her, he’d engage them in a fight. However, he warns Aether and tells him that somebody with his conscience should avoid Columbina. I think this reinforces my ideas, because Scaramouche doesn’t easily trust people and seems to see right through them (this could be justified by his pessimistic nature, but who knows?), which is why Damselette’s fragile appearance wouldn’t fool him. However, knowing how the Traveller is a friendly person, he could get tricked by the “cute” image she displays. Therefore, I believe that she actually can control others with her powers because who wouldn’t be fooled by a young woman with a charming voice, a woman who looks like she wouldn’t hurt a fly.

@davidhm4207

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a scarlet witch but it wouldn't hurt to see one

@siddhantroy8969

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhm4207 lol

@2nd_of_the_Fatui_Harbingers

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhm4207 she just needs the red clothes

@Zarozian

Жыл бұрын

She is a seraph. But a scary one. A cruel Angel. *Cruel Angel’s Thesis Plays*

@davidhm4207

Жыл бұрын

@@2nd_of_the_Fatui_Harbingers oh no that sounds like a copyright issue

Columbina is definitely my favorite Harbinger can't wait to see her in action

@kawaiitsundere6673

Жыл бұрын

me too!

@averageharambelover3541

Жыл бұрын

Manifesting for her to not get signoraed

@justarandomguy1288

Жыл бұрын

cringe

@Normief

Жыл бұрын

Same

@furinafurever

11 ай бұрын

mine too! her and scaramouche are my favorites

Columbina being Last Seelie is something I also thought about. What we know about Seelie: - They were once mighty race guiding humanity - They were cursed: if they fell in love with humans, they will become husks (as we see them in Teyvat) - Only one Seelie survived according to Arama: Queen Seelie that was friends with Scarlet King and Rukkhadevata, but her current whereabouts are unknown to Arama. This could also mean that Queen Seelie was also Goddess of Flowers. Now for some assumption: there is only one entity that we know of capable of cursing entire race - Celestia/Heavenly Principles cursing nation of Khaenri'ah. If they also cursed Seelie and Columbina is the Last Seelie, it gives her motivation in joining Fatui against divine. It also be in line with her powers being on par with gods. Interestingly, in comedia dell'arte, Columbina is wife of Pierro and lover of Arlecchino. But Genshin often takes the opposite of the established rules of comedia dell'arte (example Il Capitano being just a braggart while in Genshin he's genuinely strong) and the reason Columbina didn't become a husk would be because she never fell in love. If this theory is correct, and Columbina is truly Goddess of Flowers, then maybe we learn more once new artifact set comes in 3.3

@starlight14673

Жыл бұрын

i personally like your theory of her being seelie..

@ajergely6230

Жыл бұрын

The theory about columbina being seelie is very interesting but i dont think she is the goddess of flowers. Like all of the scarlet kings story revolves around the death of the goddess of flowers and it would be strange if all of sudden we learnt she was alive

@lowliethxd1471

Жыл бұрын

If I recall Goddess of Flowers died on that celestial pillar (the one area with the sand tornado) (this is from SoSS).

@starlight14673

Жыл бұрын

@@lowliethxd1471 mind if i ask what is SoSS?..

@starlight14673

Жыл бұрын

@@lowliethxd1471 ohhh thats very intresting

And what I find really interesting is that, in Comedia dell'arte (where the names of the harbingers originated), Pierro is also known as the sad clown (He is also the husband of Columbina, but I really doubt that it will become canon in genshin)

@gmoney9469

Жыл бұрын

Weren’t the seelie cursed because a seelie fell in love with a human? 🤔

@solarius6362

Жыл бұрын

@@gmoney9469 That's a really cool take!

@siddhantroy8969

Жыл бұрын

@@gmoney9469 if columbina were to be a seelie, and she fell in love with pierro and she didn't degenerate, that would conclude pierro not being human in the first place

@angeldude101

Жыл бұрын

Columbina also had an affair with Arlechino. There's no indication that this will be represented in Genshin in any way, but you can bet the shippers have already jumped on _that_ relation.

@solarius6362

Жыл бұрын

@@angeldude101 True

22:19 I had a theory that Arlecchino's backstory is that she was one of the poor people who had to resort to tricks and shady stuff to survive, and now that's built into her, which is why Tartaglia gets sus out-for-herself vibes from her, and why she owns an orphanage so that others will grow up in better conditions than she did, and also adding onto that I had a second idea that perhaps she was actually from a rich family, or at least averagely wealthy, but someone or something caused their downfall and pushed her down to the bottom of society The 'false promises' bit could be that 'someone' made a false promise which resulted in her family's downfall, or it was a promise made when she was already poor that they would help gain back her status/wealth, so she started to distrust others more and try to raise the orphans to be as loyal as possible

@starlight14673

Жыл бұрын

could be pulchinella?

@uwuuwu8486

Жыл бұрын

she owns an orphanage for her own personal gain, she gr00ms kids to become fatui soldiers, i believe it's just a form of power for her (to have groups of young and trained kids to become soldiers ready for disposal - and what is an army without soldiers?) i doubt shes out here owning an orphanage so kids can have a better life lmao shes just using them

@Aurelian369_

Жыл бұрын

arlecchino is definitely going to be the best harbinger

The Harbingers are strong enough to the point if they deem our boy Traveler as a threat, they would not hesitate to kill him. Maybe end his journey in Teyvat half-finished. Outlander-flavored donut as a feast for his demise.

@stargazer6510

Жыл бұрын

Yes but you see, any preemptive strike against the Traveller could result in an all out invasion from the Abyss. A three way battle between the Celestia, Abyss and the Throne of Tsarista would not go well.

@reedsad4652

Жыл бұрын

killing the dull blade master means war with the abyss, inazuma, mondstadt, liyue and sumeru.. the abyss sibling will target them first instead of celestia

@faithfullilac

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the traveler be better as an ally then an enemy?

@nyx2889

Жыл бұрын

unless they see the traveler as a(n) (potential) ally. maybe having the traveler meddle in each region's issues is what they want. like, they're playing the role of villians for the greater good or smth, idk

@kanishkjaiswal5088

Жыл бұрын

I am almost 100% sure that traveller will be the 12th harbinger. When he learns the 'truth' of course.

They said the top 3 are as powerful as gods just imagine fighting the jester with gnosis imagine how strong they would be

11:57 it's literally confirmed in 3.0. Nahida literally says Katheryne is a Snezhnayan puppet. And being out over the Adventurer's Guild gives the Fatui priceless Intel.

@anaplaysstuff

Жыл бұрын

Snezhnayan doesn't have to mean "Fatui" though. The coincidence in her being from Snezhnaya (as opposed to, say, Fontaine) is suggestive, of course, though the fact that the Adventurer's Guild itself is from Snezhnaya explains why their puppet(s) would be from there. Of course having a world-spanning organization generally trusted by...everybody...whose members make it a point to find out all sorts of things about the world is, as you say, priceless intel for the Fatui themselves. So it's entirely possible that Sandrone is responsible for Katheryne (and many things do line up to suggest it) but it is definitely not confirmed. As Aster says, there's no actual proof of that.

@ChillwithAster

Жыл бұрын

This one is actually my personal theory that I've said in numerous videos; that Katheryne is Sandrone's, but it's not confirmed soI don't wanna instigate anything

@thymike7

Жыл бұрын

@@anaplaysstuff snezhayan as if it's from snezhaya not only made by snezhayan, talking about snezhaya I think everything left there is fatuis

@ajreyes1262

Жыл бұрын

@@anaplaysstuff the Fatui and the Tsaritsa is governing Snezhnaya tho so there's a huge chance she's being controlled by Fatui

@anaplaysstuff

Жыл бұрын

@@ajreyes1262 I didn't say there wasn't a chance, I said there was no _proof_.

Wait I never realized that it was Pulcinella in the Teyvat trailer. That basically means he’s gonna be a playable character. Does that mean they are gonna at a new model for the guys.

@tariqwazir09

Жыл бұрын

Yes lol he was already confirmed a year or 2 ago lol

If the Fatui claimed that they have the plan, the power, and the resources needed to fight against Celestia, then wouldn't it be fitting if their leader have something up his sleeve to make up against divine power? We do know that the Archons are named after the demons in Ars Goetia especially Lesser Key of Solomon like Barbatos, Morax, Buer, Baal, Beelzebul, Focalor, Ishtaroth, Paimon, and hell even the Sustainer when datamined had her name to be Asmoday Then, I'll put my bet on the possibility that Pierro, is Solomon himself I mean, the Fatui were insane enough to be so devoted in their plot against God, their devotion is only logical if their leader DO have the capability to be beyond the gods (be it control, or anything that made him able to overwhelms the Archons and Celestia)

With wanderer we might get more voice lines about them

I really enjoy the theory that Capitano is the Geo Yaksha, my personal idea of how its possible is that he lost his divinity as an adeptus. We saw how Menogias had a whole put through his chest. The idea comes from one of the constellations that looks like a hand holding a heart. Maybe it depicts the geo heart Xiao is desplayed holding in some of his promo art in events. Plus how interesting would it be to see an adeptus who has chosen to not serve Zhongli anymore.

@josh-qj2zu

Жыл бұрын

It would also give xiao more angst fics and I’m here for it

@M-m585

Жыл бұрын

But this theory has a huge hole in it that is that capitano and the geo yaksha have diffrent VAs

@Kira-mu2im

Жыл бұрын

We already have a Liyue harbinger, i.e, Pantilone it would be weird for 2 liyue characters to be harbinger

@chalk._.

Жыл бұрын

@@Kira-mu2im yes that's true, but there's 11 Harbingers and 8 regions, so some regions would probably have 2 harbingers

@alexanderpalmarin7840

Жыл бұрын

​@@chalk._. Did anyone realize that capitano has a long straight hair?!

if comulbina is a seraph, wouldn't that make her the unknown descender?

@Corner-kun

Жыл бұрын

Then again, she is theoretically and possibly an exile of Celestia due to her knowing ALL the secrets of the divine...I mean, how else would The Tsaritsa's bitterness against the divine grow and grow?

@baldwinivofjerusalem47

Жыл бұрын

We got Aether ( or Lumine depending on whom u play), Alice (Highly possible), Sustainer of the Heavenly Principle (Asmoday) and Morax ( The CEO of GEO might be one, highly likely, check out WEI Genshin descender video in KZread).

i personally think that pantalone would have a geo delusion, given his disdain for the gods. all geo characters didnt want visions but got them anyways. noelle wanted to train her strength and not use a vision, ningguang found a vision and wanted to sell it, but it awoke and she was upset about it etc etc

the fatui, the celestia and the tsaritsa are my fav topics in genshin lore, i'm so excited for them to release more! also i really like the theory that capitano is the geo yaksha but the cryo archon has revived him from death... imagine the conflict between xiao and the yaksha and zhongli and the tsaritsa if that's true! anyways, thank you for the video aster!

@SebasRyz

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the theory of capitano being the Bloodstained Knight

@angel.2029

Жыл бұрын

I also prefer the theory that Capetano is a bloodstained knight.

@bakamitai1419

Жыл бұрын

Bloodstained Knight pledged his loyalty to the Abyss so the theory of Capitano being BSK is already debunked

For Pulcinella I like the idea that he is some sort of wise wizard archmage type character, so he'd have super strong magic powers and maybe multiple elements, I don't quite remember if I just came up with this idea myself or if I saw someone else mention it, or if it was a mix of the two

@UberWraith

Жыл бұрын

But the real question is, will he have the 't-run' like all the other small characters in the game ? It would be GRANDIOSE ^_^

@-alovelygaycat-

Жыл бұрын

@@UberWraith The money I would pay to see the old man Pucinella running like fricking Klee

I think it'd be cool to see a tier list of characters strength based on lore and speculation cuz some characters are really intriguing power level wise. Great video nonetheless :)

@Alex-vv2ud

Жыл бұрын

My casual tier list 1. Sustainer 2. Abyss Traveler? 3. Tsaritsa 4. top 3 Harbingers and strong Archons 5. Lesser Archons and other Harbingers 6. Powerful Vision Holders

@sayyidash-habussunan

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-vv2ud what a joke tier list lol. Top 3 Harbinger never on par with strong/Fighter Archon, they just on par with Gods, and many Gods clap easly by Strong Archon like Morax and Ei

@_Crimson._

Жыл бұрын

@@sayyidash-habussunan ao true

@_Crimson._

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-vv2ud cap list. Top 3 can never beat morax and ei and venti( i think venti is acting being weak) to support tsaritsa like other archons are indirectly supporting tsaritsa

Nonono, the strongest is CLEARY Timmie after the trauma from seeing his birds be killed thousands of times every day becomes too much and he turns to the Abyss for power. His rage will turn into immeasurable strength that will rival the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles themselves

The way the Harbingers function I cant help but to think that in some ways they were the Primarchs of Genshinverse I mean yes for those who knew Warhammer 40,000 the Primarchs would absolutely wreck the Harbingers. Its just that some of the harbingers resemble the primarchs base on their power and character. Dottore=Magnus the Red ( Unchecked thirst for knowledge ) Childe=Lion El Johnson ( Because of loyalty although Childe can be like Angron because of bloodlust ) Signora=Fulgrim ( Beautiful sadists )

@randomguyblank1616

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I think Honkai is the warhammer 40k of the setting while Genshin is the warhammer fantasy. Ever since Star Rail showed off what are essentially the Chaos gods and C'tan, I mean the freaking Slanesh stand in has her own group of Harlequins that oppose excess. We got Herta being like Trazyn the Infinite collecting items throughout the universe, and Mobius is Fabius Bile mixed with Lucius the Eternal. Not sure if any of the Honkai characters could beat a primarch, I just...uh how do you power scale breaking reality, Kiana cut a moon in half in one of her skins, do we count that? In Genshin the god like beings interact more with their subjects and not be like some eldritch entity, there's a clear cultural connection to the factions/nations. Its all preindustrial technology with a few exception, steam tanks and Fontaine. All we need are some mutants that live underground, originated in a city were things went to hell, and that pose a massive threat to the world....yes I am saying that the Abyss and Skaven are similar in some ways.

@captainvalourous6668

Жыл бұрын

@@randomguyblank1616 Speaking of the Abyss it kinda functions similar to the Warp from what I see plus I'm starting to think that Big E would love the Kingdom of Khaenriah 😅

@coca_0146

Жыл бұрын

@@captainvalourous6668 Big E would like the fatui, now i wonder if when we fight the Tsaritsa she will have some kind of armor

@captainvalourous6668

Жыл бұрын

@Coca_0 Nah I think the Emperor would rather have his cancer ridden Thunder Warriors than to buy some of the Tsaritsa's discounted Astartes 😅

I think the : "if you burn with fury against false promises" does not refer to Arlecchino but to Scaramouche, since his friend died in a fire and "betrayed" the promise he had made to Scara and once one more he found himself alone. He was not happy with his own life, empty and felt a constant dissatisfaction with his own self and with the false "promises" that others made him, always ending up in his own loneliness.

@angelinatheweird366

Жыл бұрын

Oh damn you got a point

It's worth noting that Childe has become much stronger since the fight we had with him in Liyue. In the tricky situation event with shiki taishou, he's stated to be the strongest member on the team even though he was only using his vision, despite the 3 element traveler also being a member on the team. Considering this same 3 element traveler was capable of defeating signora, it's arguable that Childe has improved so much since liyue that he's at *at least* stronger than what used to be the 8th harbinger now. Not even to take into account how much he's improved since we last saw him.

@electricenergy116

Жыл бұрын

By the time natlan hits he just casually is able to hold off capitano i’m calling it

@abohsukampret

Жыл бұрын

I think he said it out of confidence because he had the most experience in dealing with this kind of thing. He survived and escaped the hellish depth of the Abyss, and tbh the Shiki Taishou dungeons are like children's playground compared to it.

@antoniohumberto5510

Жыл бұрын

@@abohsukampret but it was not childe who said that, it was paimon and shiki taishou in two different occasions

@Luke-cb3ly

Жыл бұрын

by your comments on this channel you have clearly already proved to be a Tartaglia fanboy, and obviously not to like the traveler. know that the traveler is dozens of times stronger than Tartaglia.

@abohsukampret

Жыл бұрын

@@Luke-cb3ly the Traveler also grows in strength with each Archon Quest, and at this rate their growth should exceed Childe's. The "First Sage of Buer" knowledge transfer alone should be a huge power boost.

Awesome! So basically all Fatui Harbingers are either superhuman (no. 11 to no. 4) or godlike (top 3). Can't wait to meet the other Harbingers in-game in future patches, and hopefully playable too. Also, I think people fancy soloing all of them in battle like it's an easy thing. But imo, the battle is only legendary when stakes are highest and the opponent is acknowledged and worthy. Scaramouche boss fight was supposed to be epic (except for Nahida's bot that makes it a little too easy to defeat the Everlasting Lord of Arcane Wisdom). I want Capitano to give us the thrashing of a lifetime. Let Pulcinella make us suffer with each battle phase. Dottore should be relentless, whichever other Harbinger we might fight in future. The devs know how to modify the battlefield and raise the stakes to make the renowned Harbingers live up to their name. Till we understand why we should also be wary of someone like Columbina.

@RobbieStarburster

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. So far, the Harbingers haven't been the threat they're made out to be. Hoping to see Traveler actually struggle for once, if not defeated entirely.

@empiredynasty8667

Жыл бұрын

@@RobbieStarburster I mean, Childe had the traveler on the ropes up till his foul legacy usage. Signora''s first appearance had her completely overpower venti and subdue and knock out the traveler. Scaramouche literally beat the traveler 168 times straight until the traveler basically got the download of every move he could/would do and all of sumeru's knowledge on how to counter them. The traveler has definitely struggled against the harbinger's along their travels. It's not like mihoyo can outright kill the traveler at this point in time. It's also worth noting that the traveler is just incredibly powerful, so how much the traveler struggles against the fatui isn't exactly indicative of how much a threat they are to the rest of teyvat.

@RobbieStarburster

Жыл бұрын

@@empiredynasty8667 It doesn't feel like the Traveler is struggling in any meaningful way. They'll struggle in a fight for a bit but ultimately come out the victor regardless. I suppose I want to see how Traveler would handle an actual loss. The Traver's growing arrogance also annoys me.

@Alex-vv2ud

Жыл бұрын

Really can't wait for another epic duel like in Lyiue

@123tree39

Жыл бұрын

@@RobbieStarburster I mean the traveler literally got clapped in the first cutscene of the game, as well as multiple times by the harbingers/other enemies in the story quests- they definitely lose and have to re-strategize, or get help from others before having a rematch. I think it has more to do with how the story and its fights are carried out, since it's always a slow buildup to show how menacing the enemy is, maybe we almost die once or twice before we quickly dispose of them in like 5 minutes. I would want more cracks and unexpected changes to the rinse-and-repeat formula, but I think it also makes sense to show that the traveler is slowly growing back to how powerful they were before. The traveler is obviously going to grow more confident now that they have more power and experience under their belt, and more familiarity with Teyvat and people they can rely on, though I think they're eventually going to bite off more than they can chew, or face an opponent or group they can't defeat through traditional means

Nearly all of the Fatui lack something in 'humanity' with the exception being Capitano. I think Capitano is that ancient hero, representing the strength of mortals. The top 3 being compared to the Gods' power suggests an inhuman quality to them, if not something else entirely. I like the idea of Columbina being the Seelie queen. Perhaps she fell in love with Pierro (given their playright history) and wants revenge against Celestia for what they did to the Seelies. As for Pierro, maybe he is an android. Khaenri'ah's technology has been a persistent threat throughout the world, so what if Pierro is the pinnacle of that technology? Maybe he can store the Gnosis' within himself or something.

I think Scaramouche’s mecha might be a way to channel the gnosis’s power without hurting him. He was originally meant to house it but started to shed tears which is why Ei didn’t keep it in him. Maybe

@Susumiyahh

Жыл бұрын

And you’re right !

@furinafurever

11 ай бұрын

omg yeah

Some of the higher harbingers warrant Hoyoverse stepping up their game on the cinematics. I love the cutscenes as much as the next person, but for ones like Capitano and especially Columbina it would be cool if they got a bit more creative with the visuals, experimented a little. Make the cinematics cinematic.

love how much aster is getting into the power scaling

This was really fun! I love the way the topic was approached in this video. It's definitely difficult to pinpoint what "battle strength" is and rank harbingers against each other with the information we have. It was really refreshing and nice to learn more about the harbingers as well as hear future thoughts!!

Love your vids! They are always so interesting!! And as an Italian myself, I really appreciate that you pronounce the final e in the names, such as Pantalone or Sandrone.

Ok since basically none of the Harbingers have a Honkai parallel I'm just gonna point out its kinda ironic that Bronya, the literal best canindate for the Tsaritsa expy, is the Herrscher of Truth in one universe, but be giving out Delusions, a false image of sorts, in another.

@GuyWithAnAmazingHat

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There are actually a lot of parallels to the 13 Flamechasers, people who are willing to give up humanity and morality to challenge the gods, moths who got too close to the flame and burnt away, leaving a firey path to light the way for the rest of humanity. This idea of a fire moth is literally symbolised by Signora. While not the Flamechasers, but a member of World Serpent, the closest parallel is Arlecchino and Raven who have similar appearances and both take care of an orphanage. Sandrone is the next most similar to Mobius with a similar face and body frame and is also sitting on top of a robot, the craziest scientist who sought to advance humanity beyond flesh and blood, experimented on herself so many times she is no longer human or mortal. Third closest is Columbina and Aponia, both carrying angelic motifs, and both the top 3 strongest of their groups and rival gods, they also have the same CN voice actress. There's a lot to go on but these are some of the more obvious similiarities, concepts and themes that Hoyoverse always revisits.

Columbina definitely interests me the most I’m really excited for her to appear in the story

I love the fact you chose Aria Of The Souls for this video as your background music. Fascinating!!!

i listen to your videos while going to sleep... you have such a nice and soothing voice :)

I think Knave is 10th There was a world quest in inazuma that mentions her

Well worth the wait. Thanks again Aster!

Amazing video great work!!!!! Love it

Being italian gives all videos relating to the fatui 10 times the entertainment value

i love this omg!! also is my ears right? does it have persona 4 soundtrack? because the early part of the video it sounded like the track whenever you enter the velvet room! regardless i loved this!

You know I never thought about pierro being an abyssal in disguise like enjou before you mentioned it.

In Comedia dell'arte, Columbina is the most and the only one that knows and see more than the other characters, and in the Genshin Columbina, She has a stripe of colored hair, in which archons also have that, and one other thing is, she has a Seraphim like wings, in the back of her hair, her symbol is even the crying dove Her powers imo will be either Light/Divinity, or Mental Manipulation / Warp Reality in our mind / madness Could this mean that Columbina is a god from celestia? Could Columbina be a Seelie Princess? Could her closed eyes hide something, or represent something of power, all knowing, or hidden truth? Could Columbina be a spy from celestia, or a descended god from celestia? Or the craziest one yet, She's one of the celestia's shade, in which she is casted down because of her madness, maybe then we will see her lost in madness, having a warped understanding of reality and Conjuring them to Reality, real crazy

@ilo_rey3273

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Phane's Shades*

I love your videos on the Harbingers!

Really appreciate all the lore breakdown you put down ^_^ Also bonus points for all the DnD verbiage :)

Me, anxiously waiting to meet the captain in the story outside that one letter

For some reason, I imagine Pierro's fighting style to be sorta like Yhwach's ability(excluding Almighty, that's too much)

@coca_0146

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i imagine him fighting more like Doctor Fate

Pierro is most likely a top officer of Khaenriah, and managed to not die (dying triggers further degradation of the curse of immortality) at all like Dainsleif hasn't died yet. We see a guy in the middle of degrading in a dainsleif quest, and the hilichurls are almost at the end of degradation considering we see the dead (sleeping) hilichurls in the chasm

@Alex-vv2ud

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Or maybe Tsaritsa fought with Khaeanriah not against them.:). And why Heavenly Principles aren't active in world now. Inactive god= not true god in my opinion. Sure my Traveler is not fool to be Celestia believer or archon errand boy. XD

@MrMan-np9jg

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@@Alex-vv2ud what did that have to do with what I said?

@Alex-vv2ud

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@@MrMan-np9jg it's connected a bit too far

I feel like given the secrecy of keeping his face hidden, capitana is gonna be a big reveal of a deceased or previously met character... Like probably crepus or Amber's grandpa or the ordinary fisherman in Liyue who can defeat a ruin guard faster than a descender's perception etc

Is the Tsaritsa stronger than the Harbingers or is as powerful as Pierro? In any case, hopefully most (if not all) Harbingers are playable xD

@rakisuzuki-burke4148

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Any non-playable harbinger is money lost by Hoyo.

@harfi212

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@@rakisuzuki-burke4148 i mean they got no problem yeeting signora. And she a female character too.

@T4x_Ev4der

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@@harfi212 she isn't dead Right?

@Ryjek3

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@@T4x_Ev4der she is lol

It's funny to watch it now knowing that Arlecchinno is a pyro. You re right.

Arlecchino and Columbina are the most interesting ngl

Love your voice. Sooo chiiilllll 👌🏼

Speaking of the Fatui, do you know about the Epoch Winter song? Apparently it's made by Venti's CN VA and her husband. Also, VAs probably know something we don't, like Paimon's JP VA was asked about Paimon's true identity, and all she said was it would be great and unexpected. Since the song Epoch Winter is made from a Genshin VA, its lyrics might contain some info? Like "take the throne back from firmament". I actually did some research and found out the beginning, "dies irae dies illa requiem" is related to burning away the old world...

@rozy7525

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Sorry about all the reading, ehe-

A comment or a quick update to this after Wanderer lines would be interesting

Hi love you vids 😳

When talking about the possibility of Columbina being an Angel, you mentioned “divine flames”. This could translate nicely into Pyro abilities. Also, I feel like she just looks like a Pyro character to me. I reckon if she becomes playable (It looks like she uses a playable character model, so it’s likely), I reckon she’d be a Pyro catalyst, maybe a sub-dps or support of sorts. …Hoyo, if she does end up being Pyro, you’ve gotta make her flames look pink. You gotta. Please?

"The worst of them all, Politicians💀" Off to a great start lmao

really want an analysis on abyssal sibling.

The Fatui Harbingers are ranked by strength and I always wonder why Pulcinella is ranked 5th. There must be a reason why would he be ranked so highly eventhough he isn't a combatant. Although the so called "strength" could also mean intelligence, influence, combat capability, and other things. He has intelligence and influence but I don't think that's enough to ranked him 5th since Pantalone who literally funded the entire organization and an economic genius who has influence all over Teyvat by opening Northland Bank in multiple nations and monopolize the market is only ranked 9th. I think Pulcinella might have some hidden combat capability as well and him being a non-human is quite interesting as well. Perhaps he might have some body transformation that is why he hid his face during the Teyvat trailer.

@bakamitai1419

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I think Pulcinella is like something of a mayor of snezhnaya? That could also explain the high ranking

@PulcinellaTheRooster

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@@bakamitai1419 Yes, he is the mayor of Snezhnaya city but I don't think that is enough to rank him in the top 5 since Pantalone would be better suited on the upper ranks knowing his contribution in the fatui financially but as you can see with only his influence and mora he can only reach ranked 9th.

@bakamitai1419

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@@PulcinellaTheRooster If i remember correctly Childe mentioned that his fighting style was very unique and he wouldn’t shy away from purposely inflicting pain on himself & his opponents, suggesting he’s quite experienced in combat and having a sadistic nature which would make him worth of rank 5

@PulcinellaTheRooster

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@@bakamitai1419 Interesting description but where did you receive this info. I never heard Childe mentioning anything related to Pulcinella's combat style ingame

@bakamitai1419

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@@PulcinellaTheRooster Thought it was part of the voice lines till I double checked so as far as I'm concerned it was either leaks or a theory regarding his Commedia counterpart, which is more likely imo but so far we can only speculate

Columbina being a seraph and the archon's connections/names being demons is actually a really cool concept

I'm exited to see who are we going to see next in Fontaine, in my mind we will see Sandrone and arlecchino considering that the others don't travel that much and capitano is in natlan, this makes me happy because this means we could get the next playable harbinger (I hope arlecchino)

Well damn,haven't even opened YT and I see an Aster vid. Today is indeed a good day.

Columbina is so beautiful, I hope we get to see her soon

Something interesting about pierro in winters night lazz when walking to the coffin you can hear what sounds like a ruin guard walking so he might have mechanical parts

With new information about the fatui ranks and Capitano even as a human is considered the strongest individual on teyvat, I'm very curious about how it will all play out.

Seeing you speculate about the harbigers' visions made me wonder. What if the elements are a way for cellestia to keep the vision wielders in check. Take Xinyan for example, her music can move people and shakes culture, but it's the power of music and freedom, not the power of pyro. None of the harbingers see their visions (or lack there of) as a constraint, while our characters do. Could an archon do more if they didn't specialize in a single element? Are elements even a thing? Are there powers beyond the elements? Collei is a nice example too. What gives her the most power, her dendro vision, her eleazar or her immense willpower? What is power even in this world?

I’m so excited for columbinaaaa

@DamslettesSIMP

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Same

About Signora's simultaneous wielding of pyromancy and her cryo delusion skills: At the end of the fight, she out of exhaustion alone (yes, right, she by all means were just exhausted of pyromamcy, which led her to defeat) retransforms into her human form with visible cryo catalisator. After Raiden strikes her in that form, in which she supposedly isn't capable of using pyro arts, she rewinds into pyro particles and seemingly moths. That should mean she can use at least a little dozen of pyromancy in human form, limited by delusion. P. S. My personal theory is that her catalisator IS the cryo delusion of hers itself, 'cause it disappears when she creates the cryo barrier, let alone the fact she doesn' t wear it on herself (as we can see on her model - there's no place with delusion on her).

Childe in his voice lines said that the Damslette creeps him out and doesn't wanna go near her shows how terrifying the Top 3 are.

I'm really fascinated with the theory on columbina there as being a seelie and a seraph its like pure coincidence or just pure intention, who knows but I'm simply ecstatic to know more

14:48 - 15:22 TRULY AMAZING

I remember at the end of Monstadt Quest that Venti mentioned the Tsaritsa giving her "powers" or "blessings" to the harbingers, which is why they are far stronger than an average human. And it"s the reason they don't strongly fall victim to the side effects of delusion. Ei Childe- Human+ Has Abyss fighting knowledge+ blessings from Tsaritsa Scara- A puppet+ has god like powers to some degree due to him being an archons puppet+ blessings from Tsaritsa What I'm getting at here is that even though some of the harbinger don't have vision or innate elemental powers (ie pantalone) , or even if they are only mortals (Capitano)' they would still have the "blessings of the tsaritsa", and thus is stronger than an average human. I also have a running theory that the Tsaritsa is secretly weak right now due to her bestowing "blessings" to her Harbingers, even more so that we have the top 3 which is stated to rival the powers of the god.

If Dain is Genshin's Otto, Pierro may be Genshin's Kevin.

@idontspeakjapanese6289

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Funny cuz Signora is basically Cocolia and probably Capitano is Hyperion

@pozzsicle

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I can see how Dain could be Genshin's Otto, but also not at all

@rakisuzuki-burke4148

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@@idontspeakjapanese6289 lore wise, I think Arlecchino is more Cocolia than Signora.

@togachan5081

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@@rakisuzuki-burke4148 Arlecchino is more like Raven if anything.

I would love it if Pantalone was some sort of semi-evil Batman-like foe, seeing as he’s rich and doesn’t have a vision (aka super powers). Granted he likely will have a delusion but still, it’d be rather fun to fight an opponent who has gadgets and tech no one else has access to because he’s rich.

@rafaeldelaunaycosta8630

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Lex Luthor

Senora also has so links to phoenix myth. So copium take is that she may yet come back in some form, kind of like how Scara is going to become the wanderer after wiping his past from the Irminsul.

The 11 Harbingers actually has a lot of parallels to the 13 Flamechasers from Honkai, people who are willing to give up humanity and morality to challenge the gods, moths who got too close to the flame and burnt away, leaving a firey path to light the way for the rest of humanity. This idea of a fire moth is literally symbolised by Signora. While not the Flamechasers, Raven, a member of World Serpent an organisation under them is the closest parallel to Arlecchino, both of them have similar appearances and both take care of an orphanage. Sandrone is the next most similar to Mobius with a similar face and body frame and is also sitting on top of a robot, the craziest scientist who sought to advance humanity beyond flesh and blood, experimented on herself so many times she is no longer human or mortal. Third closest is Columbina and Aponia, both carrying angelic motifs, and both the top 3 strongest of their groups and rival gods, they also have the same CN voice actress. There's a lot to go on but these are some of the more obvious similiarities, concepts and themes that Hoyoverse always revisits.

Just wanted to add that when discussing the top 3 Harbingers being in the level of Gods, the term "Gods" is really vague and broad, even the term Archon is, ofc, that is not to say the top 3 are as strong as the God of Salt or anything, but just keep in mind that a God inherently powerful like Orobashi(who carried the whole of Watatsumi Island on his body) who had the full support, faith and prayers from his people backing him up still got one shotted and obliterated by an Ei who wasn't even an Archon at the time.

@iosis9324

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Orobashi committed suicide with the help of Raiden because of forbidden knowledge and the sake of his people, so it's not such a feat as you say.

@kaled20001

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@@iosis9324 Except Raiden knew nothing about it and from her perspective he attacked out of nowhere, besides, the feat is still there, it's not like Orobashi suddenly got 100 times weaker just because lol. It's viewed as a suicide not because Ei helped him or anything but because challenging Ei is pretty much another way to suicide.

@Crystalhair2024

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@@kaled20001 no I think he did got weaker as he sacrificed his much of his power or something like that I read. Ei is still stronger but orobashi was probably not too much behind in his prime.

@iosis9324

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@@kaled20001 of course, Orobashi did not become weaker, but he did not resist Raiden, thereby allowing himself to be killed, so, as I said, this is not as big a feat as you say. This is still a feat, but not so great, becoming an archon does not greatly increase strength, especially since Raiden was already a better warrior than her sister archon. Raiden is strong, but if Orobashi really fought with her, it's not a fact that she would have won, but you say it as if Raiden and Orobashi fought in a fair battle and Raiden won.

@ChillwithAster

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I think when God is used, it should be thought like a race instead of actual power. Like how the Demon Gods (Guoba, Decarabian, Archons, Guizhong, Havria, etc etc) are actually less like what our world would consider omnipotent entities, and more so just powerful elemental creatures.

Signora might return as someone or something else. Also her strength is underestimated. Different from other Harbingers, Her delusion is for suppressing her pyro ability, Or else she will burn herself and suffer great pain.

I can listen to this human saying the name "Pantallone" for hours man They say it in such a satisfying way

Damn, that Velvet room OST gave me so many flashbacks of my days being addicted to persona 3,4, and 5.

I hope Columbina doesn't get Signora'd, I feel like fans would REALLY not like that if it happens + Money gone as well as I saw alot of people want her to be playable and I'm in a group of those people!

17:00 I do like the angel theory and especially the seelie theory. However it might maybe just be a dove on her head, considering Columbina literally means little dove.

22:18 I'm actually pretty sure that this is Signora, since she literally became a fire spirit when her lover, who had promised to return to her, instead died at war.

Hmm is there anyway we could see how some other characters scale? In terms of strongest in their region like Albedo, the Adepti, the Yokai, what ever is inside Cyno?

Man now I wish they made all Harbingers playable lol 😭. I also wish they had more races. I would’ve like to see a wolf man with a cryo vision as well as dwarfs and Orcs/goblins and angels/demons as playable races. They really could’ve been one of the best fantasy game in the era 😭😭

@ragingflare123

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So far, Tartaglia and Wanderer (Scaramouche) will be playable. In the future we will get the chance to play Signora and Diansleif (from Kaenria)

@iamnumber4ization

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@@ragingflare123 dain isn’t a harbinger

@Alex-vv2ud

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@@iamnumber4ization not yet but he will maybe

@-CHOMP-CHOMP-CHOMP-CHOMP

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@@ragingflare123 Yes we will be able to play signora I wonder what cremation bottle we'll see her in once shes playable

some new info about harbingers delivered through wanderer's voicelines and the new archon quest chapter (spoilers ahead): . . . . . . Pantalone - Wanderer's quote: "He's obsessed with the idea of "fair exchange," to the point of wanting to overthrow the natural imbalance between gods and humans." Pantalone's ideal is, however, foolish according to Wanderer - thus it remains unsure whether the "fair exchange" is a common goal between Pantalone and the Tsaritsa (who is a god, after all) or is it just Pantalone's personal belief. The latter, at least to me, could mean that he may not be fully loyal to the Tsaritsa. He's also Dottore's partner (take that as you wish :*) Sandrone - 1. Wanderer refers to this person as "she" (I also wished that the real Sandrone was actually the ruin guard), 2. she is supposedly quite selfish and cares about outside of her own "research" (on AI/Khaenri'ahn or simply ancient technology). However, many of her past experiments had been unsuccesful. Capitano - Scara further confirms that Capitano is immensely respected by the majority of the Fatui and that he is, indeed, very strong physically (kinda makes me wonder if he really is human after all) Pulcinella - Wanderer refers to him as "the mayor" - probably of the capital city of Snezhnaya. He was the one who recruited Childe and apparently "takes care about his family" (which, according to Wanderer and Childe's story quest, basically is a way of controlling Tartaglia - pretty logical imo). Thus the Rooster is almost certainly an incredibly important political figure, at least in Snezhnaya. Dottore - he is AT LEAST 400 hundred years old, as he had appeared in Tatarasuna then, disguised as an inventor from Fontaine. He recruited Scaramouche in order to conduct many experiments on him. Pierro - he was Khaenri'ah's "royal mage" and used to live with the Traveler's sibling for some time. He remains mysterious even to Wanderer, but is surely interested in exploring the Abyss (both Childe and Wanderer have been there on Pierro's behalf). Wanderer also further confirms what we've already known about the rest of the Harbingers - that Arlecchino is somewhat insane, but she puts up a composed facade; that Columbina is particularly dangerous (similarly to Childe, he warns us to not get involved with her). Let me know if I missed something!!!!

Man if there's an option to which harbinger you want to marry then I would pick dottore cz why not!

@PizzaRatJC

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Would that be poligamy?

@synthesissixtyfive22

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@@PizzaRatJC Hell ye

@DamslettesSIMP

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I would pick Columbina

@synthesissixtyfive22

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@@DamslettesSIMP I see Well she's cool too

@elizabethvein4328

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I would pick none cause I dont want to die just yet x'D (or worse, tortured, experimented, enslaved, etc")

I wonder when we will meet more of the Harbingers. We have completed 4 regions now and we so far have only met Tartaglia, Signora, Scaramouche and Dottore. Regrator and Pierro have been mentioned now in the main dialogue, but I don't believe any of the others have. Perhaps there is another Harbinger at work in the final area of Sumeru. Even then there are many left, I hope we see them in action before Snezhnaya.

I think Scara voice lines gives some more details on the other harbingers

what if cryo archon is just a cover-up for being the ruler whereas the real one is actually one of the harbingers itself without other members knowing this. Cryo archon is a victim and has been imprisoned by them.

Waiting for venti analysis uwu

The Fatui Harbingers (at least the fighting ones) vs the adepti is one hell of a battle I’d love to see

@Space00000.

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Fatui > No diff/Low diff

Hey nice vid, tho i wanna tell u this: Idk if they did it right or they made a mistake, but in the recent Italian localization, Arlecchino's title "The Knave" is translated as "Canaglia" which is a synonymous of rascal, so, knowing this, might her totle have some other meaning instead of the first "Soilder" one? Again all this assuming that the localization didn't get it wrong :) Hope to get an answer from u!

@ChillwithAster

Жыл бұрын

I think they translated the word itself that means "rascal", so that's what the Title would be for. I don't think it's a mistake. My take is that it's Rascal, Scoundrel for the personality, Soldier for the combat style.

@BliskDeather

Жыл бұрын

@@ChillwithAster ooh then it was me who got it wrong. Well, thanks for your answer!

Imagine that capitano will use hammer as a weapon like shao kan from mortal kombat

Pulcinella reminds me of Mosquito from Soul Eater. Maybe he has a Transformation that gives him a really powerful body too...

I want to main Pulcinella!

22:27 VERY INTERESTING