Just purchased my new S1200 G2 charger… love all the benefits and features! Thank you Horizon Hobby!

That's a nice safety feature especially for beginners. I spend the most time explaining lipo batteries to beginners conveying the benefits of and the dangers of lipo technology. This will help everyone!

I honestly wasn’t that clear what the Spektrum Smart chargers did. Great video explaining the G1 G2 compatibility. Thanks!

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

as a guy who has been in RC since the early 80's, i say the biggest thing i want with batteries & chargers, is no more plug interface issues. im tired of needing a plug for this car, that car, this truck or that battery , & on & on. its the damn cell phone charger situation, except with RC, & it wasnt a serious issue until the 2000's. before that it was pretty much 2 plugs, now its 10, & my body weight in octopus adapters, plug ends, solder & irons, shrink tubing, & anyone who knows rc knows what im talking about. features are great, but if you want consumers to be excited, you need to make their lives easier , while giving them function & good performance.

Hey thanks for the information

Great video! I'm really happy with the tech tips! Thank you Horizon Hobby!

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Love these batteries and the new charger 👍🏼 it actually makes charging fun now.

These are really nice but always check the settings in the Smart Battery either with the updated (via firmware update) or new G2 charger or using the XBC100 checker (which also needs to have its firmware updated). Be sure to set your desired parameters for auto-storage time-frame, storage charge level and desired charge rate. I like the new G2 family (need more members!). IMHO: I think the value proposition is good for what you really get.

I think the concessions outweigh the benefits. The balance lead is used for many peripherals, including a lipo alarm, which is still important to use if one has an model that is not using the Smart technology. A standard lipo checker uses the balance lead, and so now, modelers are forced to use the Smart batter checker (it's more expensive, too.). The update cable link should really be included in all Smart chargers. There is a USB port for many of the chargers and this should have been designed to update the firmware. By the way, the cable referenced in the video is still out of stock and has been for many weeks. Those of us with G1 battery chargers cannot currently charge G2 batteries.

It's quite easy to compose a bulleted list of product features for a new technology release. However, it's gets difficult conveying how those features actually benefit the end user. Guilty as charged (pun intended). For this edition of Horizon Insider, Kyle focuses in on HOW the features of Smart G2 benefit you, the customer. Additionally, he clarifies several facts and misconceptions surrounding both the latest generation of Spektrum chargers and batteries. Watch to learn more! Learn more about the... - Spektrum G2 Smart Family: www.horizonhobby.com/search?q=Spektrum+Smart+G2&search-button=&lang=default&srule=price-high-to-low - Smart Charger USB Updater Cable/Link: www.horizonhobby.com/product/smart-charger-usb-updater-cable-link/SPMXCA100.html Relevant Video Content Links: - Product Video - Spektrum Smart G2 Family: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6iqus-Se9rZpKg.html - Playlist - Spektrum Smart Technology: kzread.info/head/PL57e6gtFP9ObLtk11Q8U6PSxQcwYyoL3b - Spektrum - Intro to Gen2 SMART Tech & Gen1 to Gen2 SMART Firmware Updater Cable Tutorial: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZVksNiQZtDMks4.html

@RiceKiller18

3 жыл бұрын

Will you offer these in the combo packs like you do with the first generation battery and chargers?

Kyle, had a question for you as I am kind of new to the RC world or should say getting reacquainted after a 15 year hiatus. In regards to Spektrum ecosystem, when you say or hear or see "SMART" what is that in reference to? Is that only in reference to the battery technology or is it actually also apply to ESC, Motor, Transmitter, Receiver, etc. I am just not sure I totally understand the Smart Technology as far as what it applies to products or if it really is meant for just referring to the batteries and chargers.

I'm fairly new to RC, like about a year and a half now and i loved what Spektrum was doing right from the start. All my Chargers batteries are Spektrum G1 and i have just added 2 G2 S2200 chargers and a couple of each 2S,3S,4S, and 6S G2 batteries and almost all my electronics are Spektrum.(I love the Telemetry) and with the addition to the new Crawler ESC and motors, my crawlers and scale RC's will be too now. Keep doing what your doing with Spektrum. @Horizon Hobby , I haven't been able to find any 2S,3S,4S, and i think 6S 5000MAH 100c G2 batteries, only been able to track down 50c variants. Are you moving away from the 100c variants or are they still to come?

Thank you Kyle and Horizon Hobby.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Here’s an idea, add a balance lead, so people that have chargers that can ACTUALLY charge a large battery fast, can use these. Otherwise there is no point in going smart since you can’t charge large 6s battery’s fast.

I’m really considering buying the S2200 G2, but is there a good smart DC option that I can use in the field? I have a small DC charger that charges my lipos using a larger lipo as the power supply. Does Spektrum have a good smart DC charger that I could pair with the S2200? Thanks.

Amazing video. Great Speaking. How long can i have my spectrum smart battery in storage mode? Before i need to charge it again? Thank u 🙏

Are there any plans to produce/offer G2 batteries in the smaller 450 mAh sizes? I fly a couple of 150S Helis and would love to have these batteries.

So how do you charge the g1 battery with a g2 charger or vice versa? Can't find an adapter for my g2 lipos and Dynamit Prophet charger.

Do you need to program/setup the battery first?

I have a smart G2 charger and I love it!...👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Great explanation. I checked out the 2S G2 packs and they state “MAX CHARGE RATE 5C (25A)” but yet there is no G2 charger that supports charging at 25A. Is there another charger coming out that supports 25A? Was this an oversight and a firmware revision is going to be released for the S2200 charger to allow it to increase from a max of 20A to 25A? Especially since the G2 batteries cannot be charged on any non Spektrum charger on the market.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

It's probably just a default "ceiling" the engineers chose to pick. It is unlikely they will ever reach that point with production models.

I have a new Arrma Granite with the Spektrum 3s 50 G1 charging on a Spektrum S100 and the only two runs I did so far I only got 12 mins or so. And second run I had it between 50 and 75%. The guy at the hobby store sold it as 20-25 mins run time. Could it be a bad battery?

i just got my Spektrum G2 5000mAh 100c 11.1v 3s battery, and on the box it says "lipo" but on the battery case it says "Lithium-Ion" are they the same? not sure what to make of this

anyone know if it is possible to check the battery charge level with non-smart batteries?

My question is about telemetry concerning g2/g1 advantages if any using Spectrem equipment?

I really love the idea of these batteries (mainly the auto storage), but how would you run a cell voltage alarm with the g2's in a model without any smart features? For that reason I'll check out the g1 batteries instead

I left a battery checker on a good battery by mistake and flattened it, it no longer charged and with this charger it would have been the same but was able to charge each cell individually via a balance cable using nmhi setting 1s for each cell then did lipo charge, done. not sure if you could do this with this charger. Best to have both I suspect.

Is there a 1s battery/charger in the line up?

Hello! Whit a Spektrum 2200 G2, can we charge Spektrum G2 batteries at fast charge without reduce life span of batteries (like charge at 4c rate a batterie 5c.)? Tank for the answer.

You guys have your charging technology all focused on AC. Our field is solar powered. How about a power pack that makes these chargers work with DC input?

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the S1200 and S1500 chargers!

@LoveRC

3 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby yeah saw those but I would like to charge 2 4s 3200 at the same time.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

@@LoveRC Ahh, fair point.

So i see that it doesn't have a balance charge option so does that mean no matter what lipo you put in it will balance charge always and not just fast charge

Some models require the balance lead like the night radian

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

That is a fair point :(

So im charging my brand new 4000 mah smart g2 battery. Im not flying tomorrow, so what should i do, discharged it?? How do i do that?

I have a Spektrum G2 battery...can I balance charge them with my regular charger

Need help please, Arrma Felony with smart batteries, the battery level indicator lights on the remote are flashing green over and over none stop? Car is driving fine and working great but the remote lights is flashing and beeping

Two years ago I purchased a Smart 2200 11.1 battery and only used it a couple of times. Now it is completely dead. Do they go bad after a period of time. If so...I'm done with these. I don't use the batteries every week.

Can I use these new batteries with my ICharger 306B?

I’ve been into rc since I was a kid in the 80s and for me in terms of safety I think spectrum is the best right now .. I also work at a local tv station and the industry standard for all our cameras is Anton Bauer lithium batteries the safety on these batteries in unbelievable.. of course there 600 dollars a battery and the charger is over a thousand.. but would pay for more safety in the rc world..but spectrum is pretty good

can i use these for my fpv drones ?

read from someone that said if the chip gets wet the battery is trash, is this true?

So these can charge non spektrum smart batteries? Good to know 🙏🏽

My question is how many minutes until full charge 3 s battery ? Is it faster ?

I have been using (dumb lipos) for many many years now but last week I wanted to test this smart stuff so I ordered a s155 g2 charger and 4 smart 3s 850mah g2 lipos for it. So when trying to charge them the charger gave me a error saying no batteries detected on all 4 for of them? So I measured the voltage on them with my multimeter and all 4 batteries showing 1.5 to 1.9 volts and the default storage voltage are 3.9volt/cell times 3 cells so it should be saying 11.7 volts not 1.5 Volts. That beeing said all 4 batteries where dead out of the box and could not be charged. I then tested a friends 3s 850mah g2 smart lipo and it worked fine on my charger.. Detected the battery and started the auto charge. Now I am waiting on 4 new lipos on warranty and hopefully they will work fine but after this experience I have my doughts with this smart setup and not very impressed so far sorry to say. I believe it that the circuit board built in to the lipos draw a small amount of current and over time drains these batteries but that is just my theory. 🤔 So zero benefits so far with these in my case not so smart setup.

Does it have it's own power source? Do you offer smart batteries down to 1c for my nano s2?

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

The G2 charger featured here DOES have its own integrated power source. No "small" Smart batteries yet, unfortunately.

@brettmccafferty7510

3 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby this looks like a great product. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

Awesome video. Mojave 1/5

Are these good for a limitless car

My smart checker did a update to my battery and now battery isn't showing voltage at all and doesn't seem to wanna charge

Hello i need help finding a receiver for the first gen spektrum radios i need a receiver like the Losi MRX 3000 or the SR 300 anyone know where to find these?

G2 is for me... like it. Will the G2 Hardcase surface batteries be available in 100C

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe...

I have the S1500 what is the new update version number. I think I did the new update, but not sure. How do I know if I receive the new undated version?? Thanks

@dannyhelton6363

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it!!!!! I get a thumbs up, but no answer to my question???? Gee thanks for the help.

@BillKisel

3 жыл бұрын

@@dannyhelton6363 My guess is that someone has the same or similar question as yours and has given you the thumbs up for taking the time to post and ask the question.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Danny, try referencing this PDF: www.horizonhobby.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-horizon-master/default/dw16ad01db/Manuals/Smart-Charger-Update-Instructions-and-Change-log.pdf

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

@@dannyhelton6363 ...and we didn't give you a thumbs up..

it's a great idea, and I'd be all in favour of it, if only they weren't so mind meltingly expensive They're not even close to competitive with non-spektrum batteries

Will you have a multi port charger. I can't live with a single port. It just takes way too much time. You want to make it easier, I need at least a twin port charger.

Weres the link to the update cable?

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

www.horizonhobby.com/product/smart-charger-usb-updater-cable-link/SPMXCA100.html

@MWall711

3 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby Still out of stock. It's been backordered for many weeks and is still not scheduled to arrive until some time in March.

I applaud the effort to make charging chores easier. QUESTION: Doesn't plugging the battery directly into the charger inhibit one's ability to place the battery into a firesafe pouch/container while charging? It seems that one would have to buy some kind of IC3/IC5 extension lead in order to maintain a proper level of safety when charging. Your thoughts? Steve

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Just put the battery in the pouch first, then plug it in. Maybe?

@stellarpod

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously? The leads on the batteries are not long enough to easily do that. Have you tried?

They better keep making gen1 batteries because I will not buy a new charger just to plug and walk away. I like my balance leads. Lipo alarms, running LED lights

How does it function to balance the battery? I have the new UMX A10, using the recommended 850mah G2 battery, using an updated S1500 charger. In the 4 or 5 charges, I've noticed that the balance is off. I have raced rc cars since 1985 and know my way around battery performance. I seriously would prefer the first gen batteries, but this new 850 gives me no choice.

@sxsmarine4075

2 жыл бұрын

It should balance itself if you’re having a problem with it and the balance is too far off you do have a one year warranty on the battery

REALLY wish i could figure out how to make this thing charge an Angry Snail 2s 2000mah, or Angry Snail 3s 2000mah.. Ive done everything i can imagine, and it simply wont even attempt to charge ANY of Angry Snails batteries

But I use the I406 ICharger... not a SMART Charger. I need the balance leads.

And someday we will be able to buy an update cable so our G1 chargers work...

@turbonetic777

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly have been trying to get that dang cable for a month now!! 🤦🏻

why arnet there any 5000+ mah spektrum batteries?

Spektrum 7.4V 2000mAh 2S 15C Smart LiPo Receiver Battery Universal Receiver IC3 which charger works for this battery?????????????

Doesnt help me with a venom charger....😢

☠BLACK BARON☠ I have one Spektrum 6S G2 5000mAh 50C battery ... the Spektrum S2200 charger says "Charge Done". The battery is not even balanced out well and it keeps pumping-in 2-3 Amps into the battery. I have to wait 10 minutes until the charge process is really done and well-balanced and I see 0,1A to 0,0A pumping-in on the S2200 charger screen. Even the latest and greatest firmware update for Spektrum S2200 doesn't solve the problem. Is that normal?

I am very disappointed in the two brand new 4S 2200 "Smart" batteries I bought. I wasn't ready to use them right away, so when they arrived from Amazon four months ago, I left them in their boxes. I pulled them out today to bench test a configuration, and found that both of the batteries were dead. The first battery had one dead cell, and the other had three dead cells. These batteries are obviously programmed to brick themselves after some predetermined period of time. I wish there would have been a warning on the box, but no! So, $90 down the tubes. I'm assessing whether or not to even go forward with these PoSs any more.

Im assuming G2 batts need a G2 enabled smart charger. Now we need a smart to dumb adapter so we can charge G2 batts with other standard balance chargers. Horizon would sell far more G2 batts as folks migrate!! Horse in front of the cart.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

...did you watch the video...? You indeed CAN charge G2 batteries with a first-gen charger, even without the update...

@glenhar1225

3 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby I did watch the video and there was a hole in it. Not sure you understood the question. To clarify, assume one wants to charge a G2 batt on an older charger that is NOT smart. It is a standard balance charger. (I run a rack of 8 chargers home chargers, plus 4 field, large batts). First, will the G2 batt still attempt to fully maintain balance autonomously, without any sensing connections to that smart lead? Then a broad assumption can be made that a standard charger can be used in the then obligatory "non-balance" mode. However the charger ONLY senses 12.6v cutoff, with zero awareness of individual cells, IT is not balancing. Since that little on-batt balance circuit only has so much balance-sinking current (and heat) capacity, this is an unknown. The charger could conceivably "overrun" that little boards capacity. Thus a solid sense of that specific balancing level ability is required to have full confidence that the standard 12.6 v cutoff is indeed 'going to be' a proper cutoff and that cells are not being driven above 4.2v. Such is the classic lipo fire hazard. Ie: imagine a cell dropped more than usual. One can use an external batt checker to confirm such a safe range before non-smart charging, if one knows what that (generalized) safe range is. It could be such as 0.2v diff max at a normal 1c charge (30+ min) can be maintained , etc. However a G2-to-balance adapter that could feed cell voltages to the standard chargers balance circuit is safer, if possible by the design. If only voltage could be sensed, but no balancing current passed to the standard charger, there is still a safety factor. In such a case one is still just using the on-batts (likely lower) balancing circuits, but the standard charger can halt if sensing a fire-hazard cell over-voltage. Perhaps at the very least give us that on-batt boards balancing current capacity spec and let us determine charge routines ourselves. This of course is again assuming that on-batt circuit is fully balancing active without any smart lead connections! That is something yet specifically undefined. Implied perhaps, but not directly stated for all cases. When fires are possible, its an important point. This point is important not just for users, but for Horizon to clarify as well.

@aquaticthumb5193

2 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby I don't think he did.

@sxsmarine4075

2 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head for all of us with Gen1 batteries And a regular $50 charger or multiple $50 chargers why in gods name would we go g2 batteries and spend the money on another charger we don’t need that’s not a smart charger. Nope not going to happen. If they stop making gen1 in done with there batteries plain and simple

I need a DC Input Version so that I charge off a Service Battery in the Field !

If the 5000 3s 100c were 6800 3s 100c for $99, I would get inot the smart system now! But $99 for only 5000 is too small, my vorteks will eat that in 15 minutes or less, make a 6800 capacity, or drop the 5000 to $79

I guess I'll stick with the G1 batteries a little longer.

Cool I don't want to deal with the balance just plug and play

Ec5 plugs available on batteries?

I don't know much about these batteries but I do know one thing that helps me if the battery has a charging cable and the balancing cable it's a good battery if it doesn't have a bouncing cable it's dogshit because you can't charge it So be careful which 2s smart battery you buy Make sure it has that cable for balancing Best advice is stay away from this brand of battery

Would be nice if they would send people that own all the older chargers the cable to update old charger with a return label . R give out for free. I own 4 old chargers . Now I have to buy cable to use new batt

Drinking game: Every time he says benefits.

G2 is double the money in Canada

You would have made it better if any charger would have worked. Lmao

Pls. Actívate the subtitles

I can’t use that charger out in the field because we use 12 V.

Dont buy any spektrum products. The s2200 charger destroyed 6 batteries that where 3 weeks old. The balance lead on channel 1 the 2nd cell reads .3 volt low so was charging to 4.5 plus volts.

People getting dumber, batteries getting smarter.

Kyle trying really hard to sell us on this g2 bandwagon lol

Am I the only one thinks it's better for a beginner to learn how to charge batteries properly, instead of relying on the charger to know everything?

@radrich227

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. As a beginner, the main motivation should be out and having fun, not working about the different plugs, balance cables, this that or anything else.

Very proprietary, expensive and just because it is labeled "smart" doesn't make it better.

@ricardopr54

3 жыл бұрын

WRONG! I got aG2 smart charger and it's awesome!...My batteries from other brands charges twice as fast and in a safely way! I sold my old chargers... With mine I can charge two batteries at once... You should try it... You won't regret!

@MB-ik8oj

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricardopr54 I have been charging more than one battery for years and I can charge them twice as fast also. It takes me less than 30 seconds to set up my older chargers and in a very safe way. The chemistry is basically the same in all lipo's.

@ricardopr54

3 жыл бұрын

@@MB-ik8oj That's good!... But I rather go with the newer technology, because this is how everything is going to be technology wise in the near future!👍🏾

What a load of BS. I guess he forgot to mention you cannot charge these G2 batteries with non-spektrum charging systems that you have invested $100s. This is simply pushing towards monopoly which is against my principles.

@horizonhobby

3 жыл бұрын

Well, if you actually watched the video, you would have found we DID mention this at 3:10. We do appreciate your feedback, however.

@Big-Hass

3 жыл бұрын

@@horizonhobby And how is that exactly a benefit to costumers? I stand corrected, what a load of B.S. Thanks for your response though.

@alexgiesbrecht531

3 жыл бұрын

Horizon is assuming you are itching to buy their stuff. They must feel the pressure of compition. Lol

meh. self balancing is kinda neat. Otherwise a lot to do bout nuthin.... Too pricey.