Thanks for watching Spare Parts Army! What're your thoughts on the Dshk? It got replaced by the KORD and NSV fairly quickly compared to the M2 Browning which is still trucking along to this day. If you liked this video check out our Evolution of the M249 SAW vid: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpud1qSjmN3PhJM.html

@patriotenfield3276

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Cappy. What's your opinion on South African Armored Vehicles and Other weapons of Cold war era? especially Vektor CR 21 from District 9 , Casspir APC , G6 Rhino, RATEL , ZT3 Ingwe Laser guided wireless ATGM and DENEL Rooivalk ?

@patriotenfield3276

2 жыл бұрын

Also The Russians Had KPV (14.5*114mm) NSV ( 12.7*108mm) Kord HMG (12.7*108mm ) ShVAK (*retired , 12.7*108mm, 20*94mm)

@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars

2 жыл бұрын

Btw you did not adress my DM on Twitter, why?

@stefanaleksic4113

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWebp49whKaalrg.html

@Uriah_Heep_

2 жыл бұрын

u pronounced it wrong. DSHK is ДШК in russian, which is an abbreviation Д.Ш.К. thus u should pronounce it in the way u would pronounce FBI for example, each letter separately: Д - de, Ш - she, К - ka, de-she-ka.

True story. I was providing overwatch with “balloon surveillance” on American troops when the ANA was taking fire in the distance. I looked around, and eventually found the source. The Taliban had mounted a DSHK to the back of a Toyota Corolla hatchback, so they could close the hatchback and hide it when they retreated. American forces eventually killed it with a PGM, but it was innovative!

@icysaracen3054

2 жыл бұрын

Should have let them butcher the ANA, useless pricks.

@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars

2 жыл бұрын

How does it feel to be in a War where Thousands of Civilians die?

@JeffNeelzebub

2 жыл бұрын

@@icysaracen3054 Believe it or not, they had considered that, but because DSHKs are a danger to aircraft, they have kill when practical philosophy for DSHKs.

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

this is exactly the comment I was waiting for , love a good story about a creative technical. DSHK can be mounted to anything I've seen photos of the thing put on the back of a motorcycle lol

@norfcarolinadude8179

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars how does it feel to care?

I speak Russian and I have never called this gun myself or heard anyone calling it Dushka))) We call it ДШК (De-She-Ka) that stands for surnames of its inventors (Dyagtyarev & Shpagin) and K - for krupnokaliberniy (large caliber gun). Cheers ;)

@bandaarhibudaj5949

2 жыл бұрын

Не Душка, а ДаШКа Женское имя: Дарья, Даша, Дуня, Дашенька или же выше сказанная Дашка (ДаШКа).

@Scroolewse

2 жыл бұрын

so is it like "duh-shuh-ka" or "duh-shee-ka"? It's hard to tell from the pronunciation you have spelled out there.

@EcchiRevenge

2 жыл бұрын

This.

@Opter_X

2 жыл бұрын

actually it shall be spelled as deh-shah-kah (as these letters are spelled in Russian alphabet) but everyone spells it as I mentioned above - deh-sheh-kah.

@Scroolewse

2 жыл бұрын

@@Opter_X I see, thanks

The DShK is a fine heavy machine gun. It is very reliable and has good ballistic performance against soft skinned vehicles or light armour. It is generally adequate against common field fortifications but is insufficient against reinforced concrete blockhouses, or bunkers. In the category of heavy machine guns, I personally prefer the KPV, using the 14.5mm API cartridge. While it will not defeat tank armour, it is capable of dealing with most APCs, and LAVs. I have watched a KPV put ten rounds through a Bradley IFV with no serious problems. Granted, that was one of the very early variants, and it is my understanding that the armour on the Bradley was subsequently improved. For engaging harder targets we would employ a ZU-23, 23mm super heavy MG. It took out almost everything on the ground we fired it at. We were taking sniper fire from some terrorists, and we couldn't determine what part of the building they were firing from. Knowing that every civilian had fled the town, we just demolished the entire building with our ZU and KPVs. No more sniper!

@deptusmechanikus7362

2 жыл бұрын

23mm is more of an autocanon than a machine gun. That's the general guideline: everything 20mm+ is artillery

@antonzhdanov9653

2 жыл бұрын

ZU-23 is AA machine. ZU uses for zenitnaya ustanovka so literally AA-Apparel from russian and 23 means caliber. One barrel of those actually called AZM-23 - what uses for Automatic AA gun. 2000 23mm rounds per cartridge 900 rounds/m each barrel. Though, as those designed as AA-gun, it fires usually 1-3 second repeats as steady fire will burn it out quite fast. Recommended limit is 150 rounds per repeat. There are 2 famous ones of those. ZU-23-2 - double barrelled ballistic monster which can still fire from some your usual big cargo truck. And Zu-23-4 or famous Shilka. AZU-23 does not industrially exist as single barrel though some handcrafted from ZU-23-2 ones are reported actually. Those are not actual machine guns as developed for AA. Though, quite intensively used for ground targets as well as already 2 autocannon barrels are devastating. And ZU-23-4 is literal "prepare for trouble and make it double"

@antonzhdanov9653

2 жыл бұрын

@@deptusmechanikus7362 Nah, I guess it's about rpm. If thing does more than 1000 rpm, its machine gun. If it's 100-1000 rpm - that's auto cannon. And 20mm or 152mm caliber means nothing. The biggest soviet military autocannon and one of the meanest modern weapon actually is 82mm 4 rounds cartridge 120 rpm auto-mortar. If one day they made this thing chain fed, that would be a weapon of freaking mass destruction. And actually the only reason it's not done for a moment that's actually ammo is too heavy to care. From technical point of view this b*tch is ready to rolling.

@CorePathway

2 жыл бұрын

14.5 is a severely under-rated cartridge. 3x muzzle energy of a .50 BMG. And the Shilka is BEAST.

@antonzhdanov9653

2 жыл бұрын

@@CorePathway It's not underrated, it's specific. As it's done for AA it can't do long repeats what limits it to actually heavy strike weapon, not long suppressing fire what is usual machine guns for. Though, for some fast deployed vehicle fire or ambush it's real beast ripping apart everything. Like even tank without barrel and every on-armour equipment won't be that useful and not all IAVs can stand it.

The 12.7 round has significant penetration. In Vietnam, around our 81 pits, one or two rows of sandbags was adequate for 7.62. After one night, hit with 12.7 rounds, we always had three rows on the perimeter side. The DSHK also used green tracers that our 106s hunted.

@tullo5564

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't compare the diaper wearing, confused about gender and pathetic US army to Russian army. Thank you.

@borderreiver1806

2 жыл бұрын

exactly , we were much the same , until some berserkers were armed by the Angolan/Russian "advisor" .. then sustained fire from Dsks and hours late a 20mm .. turned our CP into a sand pit ..

@davidcraft4636

2 жыл бұрын

@@tullo5564 Don’t confuse the US Military for Joe Biden’s bitch ass regime.

@abpire

2 жыл бұрын

@@tullo5564 You mean the "hundreds of recruits commit suicide and tens of thousands drink themselves to death, while the rest has less combined brain cells than a squad of crayon eaters" Russian army? Yeah, who in their right mind would want to be compared to that bunch of impotent jokes.

@jozseftoth9368

2 жыл бұрын

@@abpire its U.S. Army soldiers who used to get PTSD, and loose a bullet into their heads, or going on a rampage on high traffic places

"Why can't the American military come up with a fancy new lightweight .50 cal?" As a former 2111, there is a real need for new .50 cal machine gun. The M2 platform is great and all, but it's super maintenance heavy and requires much more skill than modern armorers are trained with to keep in service. Pretty much every other weapon system in inventory has gotten to the point where all you have to do to repair it is swap out the appropriate part. The M2 and M2A1 are not like that. There are a lot of parts that have to be fitted and adjusted properly during installation, some of which the TM tells you to replace but doesn't tell you how. There are too many parts that break or fall out of adjustment way too easily leading to tons of unreliable systems in use. If the flat spring on the bottom wears out, it can cause the fire rate to slow down and grind to a halt. If the fiberboard buffer disks in the backplate assembly get any CLP or grease on them, you have to throw them all away and replace them otherwise the weapon will still function but parts will wear prematurely causing an eventual breakdown. Setting headspace on the M2A1 is a huge pain in the ass because you do it via 16 different sized breechblocks, and you can only order one at a time so if you screwed up your initial measurement you wouldn't find out until weeks later when the part came in. The list is way longer, but I digress. I can't tell you how many units I saw either couldn't make mission or took deadlined machine guns outside the wire as a result. If your unit had ones that were reliable, it was because you had at least one armorer that really knew their shit. Thus, I believe there is not only need for a more modern lightweight .50 cal, but also mechanically simpler. I think it's totally doable from an engineering standpoint, the M2 is about a hundred years old at this point. The only problem is going to the US Army Ordnance Corps and their "infinite wisdom".

@dwwolf4636

2 жыл бұрын

The HK 25mm auto grenade launcher could be converted to .50

@theimmortal4718

2 жыл бұрын

It would help if we at least added an "infantry kit" like we did for the M240. New feed tray cover with rail, a buttstock, and pistol grip.

@cm-pr2ys

2 жыл бұрын

What do you think of the MG .338? Imagine that with polymer ammo

@theimmortal4718

2 жыл бұрын

@@cm-pr2ys It's not bad, but it's no .50. .338 is right in the middle between 7.62 and .50. 50% smaller bullet, 50% less energy, with similar external ballistics.

@gungasc

2 жыл бұрын

We had to pull a specialized mechanic from Kabul to Salerno, Afghanistan to look at my .50cal. I wanted to know a little more about it so I asked him if I could sit with him and learn something new. His reply was, "if you want to Specialist, but I'm just gonna be sitting filing down parts." I sat for a little bit and all he was doing was taking sand paper or mill files and just going at it on certain areas of the "new" bolt he was putting in. Turns out my .50cal was not combat effective (I did head space and timing on it and it was still only shooting out 2 rounds before having to charge it again) I was happy to hear I was correct that it was the bolt and not me. Even when you get the Expert Infantry Badge, people still question you, lol. I asked if he wanted any chow or snack from the PX before leaving. He was there for 2 hours just filing down steel. We then took it to the range I did head space and timing again and yes, the roar of DON -DON DON -DON- DON- DON -DON- DON- DON- DON, then let the mechanic ride the rest of the 100 rounds. I was so impressed and just dumbfounded at the same time. That mechanic after the deployment was promoted to sgt. (Ghost boarded). Good dude.

Maybe the next Russian machine gun you could look at is the Kord, which replaced the DSHK or the KPV, which is a machine gun that fires 14.5 mm cartridges. Wish you all the best!

@jPlanerv2

2 жыл бұрын

KPV is an freaking monster of a gun

@militaristaustrian

2 жыл бұрын

Dimitri make gun biger Dimitri makes 50cal DIMITRI I SAYD BIGGER Dimitri shits out 14,5 mm anti everything

@DanielSan1776

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good name I approve

@dariushajnala5562

2 жыл бұрын

Kord is 12.7mm. KPV is 14.5mm.

@panzer-blitz-1446

2 жыл бұрын

at 6:34 that is a KPV 14.5mm machine gun

In the early 80s I was at a Soviet firing range where Soviet military personnel showcased some weapons like the "bezsumnij" (silencer) version of Makarov and the DSHK, explaining that the DSHK is excellent against enemy forces hiding in buildings and to prove it a soldier started to fire short rounds against a wall at a distance of around 100 meters(yards) the wall disappeared just in a few seconds...

@mattiasdahlstrom2024

2 жыл бұрын

True, but 7.62 LMG fire will also grind down a brick wall , though slower

@xxxxxx5868

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 yeah and blowing on a brick wall will eventually tear it down but slower

@dosadnizub

2 жыл бұрын

I remember a story of a father of a friend of mine in the Bosnian war in the 90s, they were pinned down in a house by either a dushka or a zhilka and the wall was getting lower and lower - they assumed they were dead and just smoked cigarettes - but they survived - the other guy stopped firing at one point

@user-ux9nc2hu3z

2 жыл бұрын

@@dosadnizub zhilka? It's was zushka, another name in US army zeus.

@rain8767

Жыл бұрын

That's what 12.7mm will do..anything that doesn't have an armor of an MBT is gonna be pulverized.

12,7х108 wasn't an anti-tank round, it was designed as anti-material round. The "anti-tank" round was 14,5mm that got developed a bit later, and made 12,7mm obsolete in that direction right off the bat.The main purpose of DShK wasnt fighting tanks, but low-flying planes instead, since B-30 could pierce up to 16mm plating, so it could pierce the engine block\elerons. Tri-pod mount shows it's purpose with its huge vertical angle. In the war-time, they began to get mounted on armored cars, small ships, APCs, light tanks. We made Kord not because of the licensing issue, but because manufacturing plants were beyond Russia's borders, main one in Uralsk, nowadays Kazakhstan. Instead of hoping to re-do the manufacturing inside the country, we just rolled the competition, and got Kord adopted in the army. NSV is still being manufactured, but not by us, we make Kords now. While M2s were also used as the aircraft-mounted machineguns, we've made another machine gun for aircrafts in 12,7x108 - UB\UBT.

@saadman920

2 жыл бұрын

thaths nice to hear. but have u piled up enough weapons' to invade Ukraine?

@misterrobot1143

2 жыл бұрын

@@saadman920 more than enough, thank you

@timthorson52

2 жыл бұрын

Actually aren't there references to it being developed in the 1930s in a anti tank role similar to a German 13.2 mm round?

@igorvasin6960

Жыл бұрын

​@@saadman920 enough to destroy weapons from 40 NATO countries in Ukraine? oh yes, Soviet and Russian weapons are enough to destroy both the Russian region 'Ukraine' and all of NATO. there is so much of it that it is destroyed every year at a training ground in my region, which is why local journalists constantly demand to find another way to destroy it. now there is a variant of another way to destroy surplus shells.

@user-tu1gx8zx6x

6 ай бұрын

@@timthorson52 This is where he made a mistake. The DShK was created to shoot down aircraft at altitudes of up to 1500m. Large caliber arms against tanks are PTRS and PTRD.

The reason that the US can't come up with a light weight 50 cal is that it would take The Committee 30 years and $3,000,000,000 to research the need for one. Then they would have to wait for China to send the microchips for them. Also, they would have to be made of titanium/ceramic/carbon fiber.

@X.Y.Z.07

2 жыл бұрын

And make it Multirole capable...

@CheapCheerful

2 жыл бұрын

@@X.Y.Z.07 multi-role only until the contract is signed, then split it into 3 different weapons that resemble each other.

@e.a.corral4713

2 жыл бұрын

Too much brass?

@X.Y.Z.07

2 жыл бұрын

@@CheapCheerful and remember to make each version have different spare parts that are not compatible with each other..

@TheAdriyaman

2 жыл бұрын

@@X.Y.Z.07 Also it must be Modular™

The Sh in the DShK stands for Shpagin, not Shepnayev as you told at 3:43. The same Shpagin that designed the PPSh

This channel is GREAT for telling you about stuff that will not affect ANY war. Infantry man Chris CLEARLY understand this too ...just making another video.

While "душка" is indeed Russian word, I've never heard Russians calling it that. Seems they only pronounce the letters D-Sh-K "deh sheh kah" (дэ-шэ-ка). Sort of like "krinkov" is American only thing, never used in Russian parliance or by anyone else.

@user-hz1mx8ly2i

2 жыл бұрын

дашкой еще могли звать , женское имя

@TotalRookie_LV

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-hz1mx8ly2i Во! Вот это больше похоже на правду - Светка, Ксюха, Дашка.

@Hashishtani

2 жыл бұрын

I think no one called it like this now, because it is not in use anymore, but during WII they could have. Like PPSH - Papasha, and so on. Anyway in Soviet army nothing is called the way it should, like "Bardak", "Buhanka", "Krokodil", "Korobochka" and so on... even official name of the weapon system are never war-like, Akacia, Gvozdika, Tulpan, Topol, Buratino :-) all funny names.

@TotalRookie_LV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hashishtani There is a system to it, official names for artillery are all plant ones, while AA systems bear names of rivers.

@Hashishtani

2 жыл бұрын

@@TotalRookie_LV depends, large AA missiles have names of trees like Buk for example (think it is only example). While large ballistic missiles like Topol also have tree name... hm... think artillery really follows the rule while others are not that strictly sticking to them. Plus in modern Russian Federation they don't follow tradition and new artillery is called Koalitsia, which is not a flower anymore... pity.

Kord and the NSV needs a separate video in my opinion.

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

definitely going to cover those in more depth , didn't want to go too much detail into them here for that reason

@phyo1716

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose That's good to hear. Anyway love your videos.

@executivelifehacks6747

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose smart to foreshadow and build interest Cappy

@pearlvision7156

2 жыл бұрын

And Utyos that was before Kord

My cousin used both the M2 and the Dushka and according to him the M2 is slightly more accurate on sustained fire but the dushka is more mobile and it was more easily set up on an elevated tripod on rooftops and able to shoot at everything from small suicide drones to shooting across rooftops, something the M2 couldn’t do because of the tripod design it uses

@ravencookie5141

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why they took the Dushkas off the Humvees and put M2s on them instead and brought Dushka tripods so they could still have that heavy firepower even when dismounted

@joshuajoaquin5099

2 жыл бұрын

interesting

@joshuajoaquin5099

2 жыл бұрын

also yeah i never seen the M2 in DHSK style Tripod like that tall only on mounts such as ships

@ravencookie5141

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuajoaquin5099 oh yeah not saying they don’t exist, just saying the taller tripods are more common for the Russian gun is all We’re talking about the Iraqi military here so they don’t have tall M2 tripods Some did a makeshift solution by modifying the talk tripods for M2s but it took too much time and the M2 was overall a bit heavier so it was harder to manage the recoil His unit eventually completely switched to M2s on vehicles, Dushkas when dismounted

@felixhabarugira7680

2 жыл бұрын

This is not designed to be more accurate, the whole purpose is to keep troops pinned down also to reach a long range target

I shut Dushku once, first thing first about it is the sound, i believe it injures the shooter as equal as the bullets injuring the one being shot at, latterly comes the shock wave, it is usual for newbies to even lose their heading direction and cause friendly fire because of it, let alone aiming at something, and last but not least is the recoil, it moves through your body hitting all of your bones, most of soldiers bit a piece of cloth while shooting in order to avoid biting their tongue.

Love ya, Cappy! Your humor paired with the informative videos makes for hours of viewing fun. Keep the videos coming!

I always thought the barrel ribbing was for her pleasure. Thanks for clarifying it's to keep the weapon cool

This thing gives off a fat muzzle flash, been seeing the DSHK in combat watching news clips for over 40 years. That muzzle flash was always a dead giveaway, especially in Afghanistan at nights where they were quickly prioritized located and destroyed as they are very deadly.

@RuiLuz

2 жыл бұрын

You see them, and shoot them with a rocket, done.

@predestruction8235

2 жыл бұрын

@@RuiLuz Congrats. You killed a 2500-5000 $ Machine Gun with a 20.000-60.000$ Rocket.

@kaiservon2936

2 жыл бұрын

@@predestruction8235 welcome to modern warfare, dropping a $100,000 bomb on a $100 tent

@davyjones8921

2 жыл бұрын

@@predestruction8235 Curious, when it may shoot down a multi million dollar aircraft would it be a good value then?

@armvextheforgetful73

2 жыл бұрын

5:36 so that is why they censor them.

0:25 Sorry Cappy, that's an NSV in that picture. 1:39 And that's a KPV, which fires the even larger 14.5x114mm round.

You’re legit funny and informative at the same time. Love this channel

Remember children, the 12.7MM is not a Mosin Nagant caliber. #neverplayvangard.

@Sneakyboson

2 жыл бұрын

Lol is that seriously a thing in the game?

@johnrandolph1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sneakyboson yup. Check out cursed gun images on Brandon Herrera's channel that, and many other abominations of WW2 weaponry being defiled.

@CrayonEater255

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god

I counted three instances of KPVT footage, which is 14.5x114mm.

@ricojes

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto with the 12.7x108 W-85 Chinese HMG

@mikhailnosovsky4254

2 жыл бұрын

... and multiple KPVs, KORDs were called DSHK as well.

Man, task and purpose is so good he makes a review about a machine gun that is easier to watch than many video game reviews by many AAA youtuber.

I can't be the only non-service member who loves all these weapon break down videos (really just the videos in general). I really love watching the stuff not related to American doctrine/equipment. keep making them Chris!

I used the M2 and also the M2A1 when they first came out. The A1 was a nice upgrade. Cappy, you're easily in my top 3 favorite KZreadrs.

@RustedCroaker

6 ай бұрын

Holy Moley, you're over 90 years old!?

@wormyboot

6 ай бұрын

@@RustedCroaker I get that a lot but no. Perhaps I misspoke. I was an infantryman when my particular unit switched from the M2HB to the M2A1. I really liked how the barrel installed on the upgraded one.

12,7x108, in case your opponent hides behind 3 Houses…

@paleoph6168

2 жыл бұрын

14.5x114, in case your opponent hides behind 6 houses...

@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars

2 жыл бұрын

Or in case your Target is a fat american with plate carrier.

@zack9912000

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars Go be a pos somewhere else.

@cassu6

2 жыл бұрын

@@zack9912000 What? XDD you got offended by that?

Your more serious approach at presentation is more enjoyable to watch and listen to. Thanks for the change, I’ll resubscribe.

Dude you are a legend. Thanks for doing these videos super level headed approach to understanding heavy weapons

The Dskh is cool and all, but when you remember that the 14.5 is the real top-of-the-line HMG, the 12.7mm just looks small. It's just barely not an autocannon

@Mach-2-Fishbed

2 жыл бұрын

I've never been able to tell why, but I've always found the KPV absurd yet so wonderful at the same time. Probably because I find it crazy that for some vehicles (like the T-10M) they decided to just slap 2 of them on. I can understand 1 mounted on the roof for AA purposes, but a second one mounted as a coax just seems nuts to me (even more so than the French slapping in a 20mm as a coax).

@x_Degurechaff_x

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mach-2-Fishbed 2a72 30 mm coax to a 100mm 2a70 on a bmp3

@thesaul9484

Жыл бұрын

@@Mach-2-Fishbed the Soviet designers were particularly on crack during the late 40s and early 50s

@Mach-2-Fishbed

Жыл бұрын

@@thesaul9484 Late 40's and early 50's were a bit weird, but the late 60's - 80's was when designs got insane. Once autoloaders, composite armor, and stabilizers were fully understood, designs just went wild. Though the same was true for all the other major nations at the time as well.

The thing I love about kord machine gun is that it is fed from the right and ejection takes place on the right side. It has the forward ejection system. Rumour has it, it is been also used as a sniper by putting a scope on the weapon. Can you please make a video on Kpv machine gun too?

@TheeWolfiee1

2 жыл бұрын

I think a famous sniper used a m2 .50cal as a sniper during Vietnam.

@jensenthegreen6780

2 жыл бұрын

The scoped version named the NSV... with its long barrel and caliber i guess its true?

@sarath431

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheeWolfiee1 - yes. His name is Carlos Hathcock. If I am correct, it is regarded as of the longest sniper kill until sergeant Chris Kyle beat that record.

@sarath431

2 жыл бұрын

@@jensenthegreen6780 - NSV, dushka and KORD uses the same round 12.7*108mm. I read that KORD is used a sniper. Didn't know that NSV is also used as such

@vanxthenecron3059

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the KORD can be fed from either side, you can even put two boxes on it and switch as one runs out!

This channel is getting better and better.

Awesome vid as usual Cappy! Stay safe keep it beautiful dude

I think you may have shown the wrong round at 1:58 and 2:02 when talking about the earlier German big bore caliber. The image yall showed was the 7.92x94mm, a far smaller round that the Russian 12.7x108mm. Infact, the 7.92x94mm actually went into service a couple years after the 12.7x108mm. I think yall meant to show the 13.2x94mm TuF round the Germans developed in the First World War. The 7.92mm round yall showed is no doubt an immensely interesting round but it in no way shaped or influenced the 12.7mm

@mortarriding3913

2 жыл бұрын

It may be that he showed the so-called "reversed bullet", or K bullet from WW1, which were also 7.92mm.

@balkanicsense1952

2 жыл бұрын

he made several mistakes. he should not make videos about topics without good research.

I have a friend who spent alot of time in Russia and he gave me this quote about Russian firearms. "The AR platform is ment to be assembled, parts can be swapped between them and replaced. The AK is made to be built. The Soviet union created city size factories to make these firearms as cheaply as possible. Without the initial investment to stamp and forge your steel, you are stuck making shit cast AKs like the American companies."

@VT-mw2zb

2 жыл бұрын

It reflects how the manufacturing experience of WWII and the designers' background informed the manufacturing of those. Eugene Stoner worked for small scale aircraft manufacturing. Advanced and lightweight materials (polymers and aluminium), small production runs, frequent part replacements. Kalashnikov worked from inside Russian mass war manufacturing. Massive city-size factories in the depth of the Urals churning out guns by the millions. Sten gun production is similar to AR assembly: multiple small-scale manufacturers making interchangeable parts which are in turn sent around to small shops and even civilians (including women) to assemble before sending out to troops.

@PaulVerhoeven2

2 жыл бұрын

Most AR receivers are also forged, and CNCs changed the economics of milling etc operations allowing small companies to produce various parts economically even with high American labor cost (because it is a computer which controls the machine now, not a highly skilled worker).

@hunterbidensaidslesion1356

2 жыл бұрын

U.S. components should interchange completely. Per the old Russian drawings (widely available on the internet), the bolts do not interchange. There appears to be a tolerancing table listing the acceptable values for the lug length to allow it to be matched to a receiver. I'm not sure if there are any other parts that must be selectively assembled.

I've read a decent amount about these two systems...and still had questions....today they were answered. Thanks Cappie!

Great channel Cappy keep up the good work.

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

thanks a ton !

the russian heavy machine gun named(dshk) in 12.108mm. very efective in any matters. is the ideal gun for war

@theimmortal4718

2 жыл бұрын

The Russians replaced it decades ago. All the ones you see now are on the secondary market, with very few spare parts available.

I love your videos about every weapons you made with their history on how the guns was known for, can you cover how sights are used in different environments?

Great video on a weapon that doesn't get the respect that it deserves and it is pretty fun too shoot as well. It took a bit getting used to since it was on a 4ft tall tripod

I fired one back in Yugoslavia when it was falling apart. It kicks like a mule and the hearing protection was insufficient. But it is a cool piece of kit especially since we peacekeepers had nothing over 7,62x51 mm to keep us safe. So they let us play with it to make a point.

Problem with Soviet cost estimates: That's the price central planners put on parts and materials that they were buying, and many factories operated at steep losses for extended periods before costs were adjusted to match reality.

@thathumanhayden2979

2 жыл бұрын

Kind of a big part of the Soviet command economy. The design bureau and factories are parts of the state, so procurement is based on allocated resources and not on a negotiated contract. Thats why comparing the cost of weapon systems is even harder when the nations in question have very different economic philosophies.

@stefanbanev

2 жыл бұрын

@@thathumanhayden2979 The source of money is the main means of existence of any design bureau and/or factory, regardless of the form of ownership. The distribution of taxes by government clerks has nothing to do with the free market. Even technically, the two approaches are totally different, both suffer from the lack of free market competition.

@ImPedofinderGeneral

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanbanev not for Soviet Union. Many fabrics were designed to be operated at steep losses, gov just sponsored them. If the planning was too bad, you'd rather run out of food with half of the country than lose your job or salary in a loss-making factory. That's why tickets for the Soviet equivalent of Concorde were available to workers for sample - government sponsored it

@Necromancer_88

Жыл бұрын

​@@ImPedofinderGeneral famous to big to fall 😂

@ImPedofinderGeneral

Жыл бұрын

@@Necromancer_88 they managed to surpass other countries in space. And even now engine designed in loss-making design bureau is one of the best operating engines,as Musk said

I'm digging all the videos coming out lately!! Keep up the great work dude! 👍👍 Dushka means beloved person... That you want to shoot with a heavy machine gun. The least part gets lost in translation.

I still remember them from the Lebanese civil war especially during the years 1975-1977. The dushka was used by all the different parties during this period but we started to see them less in East Beirut in favor of the browning in the 80's. The Lebanese forces had a fleet of T-55/54 tanks delivered by Israel and Is still remember them on top of these tanks but machine guns on Jeeps and M113 where all browning that we used to simply call them 12.7

Love the video I've always known about all the different dshk variants I just never knew how and why they came to be.

It's "red army" before 1946, 'soviet army' until 1990. Just a minor rectification about the development part.

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

great catch! I botched that part

The Russian round might be bigger, but because of its lower max pressure it is basically 50 BMG's ballistic twin

@Sk0lzky

2 жыл бұрын

Potentially worse because being wider it's gonna have worse bcs

@flightlesschicken7769

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sk0lzky Larger projectiles general have better BCs. For example, Hornady 50 cal 750 grain A-Max has a BC of 1.050. That's higher than any other confirmed BC of any bullet I am aware of

@Sk0lzky

2 жыл бұрын

@@flightlesschicken7769 heavier, larger, but not in diameter. It increases air resistance

@keithadams812

2 жыл бұрын

I was a crew chief on a Blackhawk... And can tell you 1st hand.... Those bullets coming at you look like giant green tennis balls.... It is what I feared most

@HanSolo__

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sk0lzky A the same time you can pack it with modern hot powder. And a bullet with even harder core to puncture hole in armored cars.

Excellent episode

Loved my time with the DSHK

Rhodesian special forces used them on external raids, and for Harrison and hard point defenses. The SADF encounters them up in Angola, and they were added to the SADF compliment and used as desired, again mainly by special forces and specialized infantry units. Very well respected

@sheeplord4976

2 жыл бұрын

Rhodesians defined modern anti-insurgent warfare

@bradleytrainor7856

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheeplord4976 I disagree. What the Rhodesians did was modern counter-terrorism and were great at it. What they were not good at were counter-insurgency strategies and tactics. This contributed to their losing their war.

@sheeplord4976

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradleytrainor7856 do you know anything about the Rhodesian Bush war? For over 15 years they fought foreign backed insurgents that could operate with near impunity from neighboring countries while rhodesia itself was mostly cut off besides goods that could be smuggled in through South Africa. They held the line for over 15 years before finally attempting to bring about a peaceful regime change to save lives. They managed miracle after miracle with massive K/D with minimal expenditure of supplies. Their tactics were revolutionary and absolutely defined modern counter insurgency. Rhodesia was abandoned by the world for not following misguided decolonization practices guided by people that knew nothing of the country or its people beyond their skin color.

@bradleytrainor7856

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheeplord4976 I have read a lot about the Rhodesian Bush war; so yes, I do know something about it. The problem here seems to be that you don't know the difference between counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency.

@sheeplord4976

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradleytrainor7856 they go hand in hand in most cases

Hi cappy, thanks for the Indian Armed forces videos.. 🥰 😍

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

sure thing buddy! I plan on doing another one soon a follow up possibly on the armored vehicles of India

@saiprateek5779

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose many thanks 😊

Dude I laughed my ass off over the are f'in kidding me size ,I watched it 6 times your delivery was on point man

I was Gunnersmate as an ETT with the ANA and I would say the DSHK was damn solid when it was running however in my experience there were a lot of problems with tolerances and material reliability the ones I was working with were pretty unreliable but I believe that was from dated manufacturing and poor care. The ANA had a knack for breaking their crew serves even the mighty PKM suffer pretty bad. We had one DSHK on the test fire range catch a runaway and the ANA shooting it panicked and ran away from the gun I watched an unmanned DSHK run all the way through its belt. free floating on a tripod. If that thing flipped or spun everyone on the line would have been for some bad news. The tripod had those seized up threads and kept the barrel down range. MASSIVE BUTT PUCKER moment in my life.

Interesting piece of trivia about it, some of the parts for the DSHK were made by Chrysler during WWII. I’ve personally seen the round rear anti-aircraft sight that was marked Chrysler.

@lastknownjedi5119

Жыл бұрын

Lol 🤣🤣 no bro the Made in USSR logo looks like a Chrysler logo

@RobinP556

Жыл бұрын

@@lastknownjedi5119 Not when it says “Made by Chrysler”.

That new intro was awesome!

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

glad you liked it, our new video editor Michael whipped that one up

Always wondered what was attached to those Toyotas. Now I know. Great video.

I fucken love the sense of hummor you have in your videos . After a fucked up day . I watch one the jokes crack me up makes it all worth it . Keep it up bud

The IRA had 2 DSHKs they mounted one technical style and parked it in the car park of a Police station. This was to show that they actually had DSHKs and obviously had lots of them if they were just handing one over as an example.

2 жыл бұрын

@Ned Kelly Grindset I don't speak junkie.

Would love to hear an answer as to why after over 100 years the US still hasn't replaced the M2 with something that's effectively jam-free.

@mpopenker

2 жыл бұрын

A serious answer to that question would be long and involve serious deconstruction of US military and industrial practices. Because there were several attempts to replace M2 (like M85, GPHMG or XM812), but all failed for some reason.

@toastpuppy3491

2 жыл бұрын

@@mpopenker cost, heat dispersion, weight, or durability were the main ones from my knowledge

@jessieyoung3759

2 жыл бұрын

We need to adopt a push feed 50 cal , pull feed , barrel-recoil operated weapons were designed for black powder cartridges, Hiram Maxim made the first in 1884 . Yeah we are way out of date.

@ashcarrier6606

2 жыл бұрын

I never had one jam, that I ever saw. What should be dispelled is the notion that they cannot be reassembled improperly. I swear I watched a YT video where some guy made that claim. YES, you can reassemble them to where you think they are good to go. You roll outside the wire, complete your trip, return to base, and upon attempting to clear the weapon...find out that you can't. Not without firing the round in the chamber. I had that happen twice in Iraq, and none of use could figure out what that gunner had done wrong.

@sharpshooter740

2 жыл бұрын

@@mpopenker I believe m85 had reliability issue, gphmg didn’t have enough funding, xm812 suffered from being expensive and having a low rate of fire, that and it’s 25mm grenade launching cousin got cancelled.

The Dyshka is like a Matrushka doll, it keeps giving surprises. 😂

meny DSHKs i saw had a piece of steel case tac welded on- since it uses live cartridge or shell as charging handle - it takes time to fiddle on one each time, also saw fancy homemade folding charging handles attached to it- one was rememberable because made out of modified flip up motorcycle foot rest ... Yugoslavian war

Hello Cappy. What's your opinion on South African Armored Vehicles and Other weapons of Cold war era? especially Vektor CR 21 from District 9 , Casspir APC , G6 Rhino, RATEL , ZT3 Ingwe Laser guided wireless ATGM and DENEL Rooivalk ?

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

hey yes I would like to do a whole video covering the South African armored vehicles and military at some point soon!

@patriotenfield3276

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose 6:48 Also they look Ridiculous but You must look into Toyota war between Chad and Libya and the effective use of Technicals in that conflict

@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose of course you like white supremacist Apartheid state

@mfesch7386

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars ah ye, because you think the mechanized infrantry of a country is interisting, ypu must bea racist. Makes sense.

@joshuajoaquin5099

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigRussianCatWithFloppyEars Yep, they kicked ass and their tactics in the brush has been seen by worldwide. They are well like especially the Rhodesian vehicle design

DSHK firing team: Commander: Comrade,do u see that house over there ? Gunner: Da, comrade! Commander: I don't want to!

@panther7584

2 жыл бұрын

Turn that house into mini swiss cheese

This was eye opener thanks.

The DShK machine gun is a large-caliber machine gun of 12.7 mm caliber, created on the basis of the DK machine gun and named after its creators - military engineers Degtyarev and Shpagin. Soldiers affectionately called DShK - "Dushka"(Sweetheart). In 1946, military engineers Sokolov and Korov modernized the DShKM machine gun and it was put into service.

Reminds me of the An-225 Mirya. Both from their Soviet origins, both are massive and both still used to this vey day but under new management and uses.

@dogetothemoon223

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a very impressive aircraft but so is Ruslan. But unlike Mriya, Ruslan was produced in both Ukrainian and Russian SSRs. And even though right now Antonov is considered to be a Ukrainian company, Russia has more Ruslans than Ukraine does.

@Bialy_1

2 жыл бұрын

First flight: 21 December 1988... and its Ukrainian so how something that started to fly few years before the colapse of USSR is the same as something that entered service 50 years earlier?

@Live.Vibe.Lasers

2 жыл бұрын

😢

1:57, that's the wrong bullet. That's a later 7.92mm armor piercing bullet. The ww1 anti-tank German bullet was the 13.2mm TuF . They made a machine gun that fired those rounds, the MG18, but only in small numbers, at the end of the war. The Treaty of Versailles forbid them to further develop machine guns. That's why some believe the M2 was inspired by the MG18.

it is impresive to see something with the désignation modern that was first produced 80 years ago and is still in use

Dont forget the big f-king muzzle LOUDENCER it has... The sound of it is amazing.

1:40 I think that's a KPV and not a Dushka. Cool video by the way. Nice to see you give some more love to Soviet engineering.

Big DShK energy

Damn, what a good video! You have a new suscriber now!

Excellent video.

The newer Russian kord is a huge upgrade over the this legacy platform

Ultimately the M2 setup seems like it may have a slight velocity edge with a slightly longer barrel and higher pressure cartridge. My understanding is the Russian round has more case capacity, but it isn’t used…more of a buffer to lower the pressures.

@zack9912000

2 жыл бұрын

Problem with the M2 is if the timing is off and not taken care of. It turns into a single shot

@timewave02012

2 жыл бұрын

@@zack9912000 That's why they're replacing them all with the fixed headspace and timing, quick change barrel M2A1.

Nice video!

4:58 I bet you guys have a lot of fun making these videos together lol

I'd love to see more about the Kord now. I didn't know it could be used almost interchangeably with a medium machine gun

@N4CR5

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Kord is one of those weapons that when you know about it (Like the Iskander series and some of their leading SAMs and globe-leading hypersonic ASMs fielded for decades etc), you can truly appreciate just how different their design and doctrine is. Check out their portable nade launchers, some great small diameter stuff.

@Mortablunt

Жыл бұрын

Retention of the RPG7 with frontline units. It’s a general purpose stubborn enemy eliminator, not just a single shot vehicle destroyer like a western force would have. Even HEAT warheads are very effective inside the tight confines of a dugout or other small structure.

Love the new intro

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

thanks our new video editor Michael did an outstanding job on it!

Great video bro.

My father was a Navy Sniper in Vietnam. (16 confirmed) He bitterly recalled a story of engaging one of these Machine guns as it engaged an OV-1 Bronco, Army light attack plane He took out the crew, but they managed to take out the plane.

Additional trivia for anyone who runs into this: The 12.7*108 and 12.7*99 rounds, while markedly different in dimensions, have fairly comparable ballistics because of the way the Russians load their ammo. (Sauce is vaguely recalling Ian talk about that in one of his videos) An AKS-74U is, in trading, worth about 2-3 DSHK machine guns, or four camels, in the Afghani weapons markets (sauce is remembering one of the TFB guys talking about it) Lastly, you just lost the game

"Mom, can we have an M2?" "We already have an M2 at home." *The M2 at home:*

@Ironpine27

2 жыл бұрын

Why ask for gold when you already have diamonds?

Great video

Fun fact: former Yugoslav National Army (JNA) had and used both DŠK and Ma Duce. In fact, despite Yugoslavia being nominally a part of communist block (but not Warsaw pact), it had more M2s than DŠKs. And M2 had a bit more love among the grunts, though they used to call it in mispronounced designer's name (Broving instead of Browning which is largely kept up to this day). The reason why they preferred Browning was firstly, as already stated, there were more of those so they had more contact with them. Secondly, DŠKs came here slapped on Soviet tanks mostly, so mainly tankers only had contact with those, while M2s were mounted on pretty much anything. Either way, they all loved the effect on target of either. Even much later, when an anti-material rifle was designed (M93 Crna Strela, meaning Black Arrow), it was chambered in both BMG and 12,7x108 with BMG being far more common.

hah, my friends dad was tanker during 80s, and once they fired up DshK mounted on T-55 turret on range, they would not have been able to hit large rectangular board representing hovering helicopter at 500 metres xD

@geekmansegraves

2 жыл бұрын

I recently watched the forgotten weapons video where Ian drives a Soviet era tank and fired the DSHK from its ring mount. There was a hell of a lot of movement in the mount. I can believe that claim.

When I fired the German MG3 the recoil was well controlled, in spite of its blistering rate of fire. American machine guns' recoil isn't that well controlled. I could still hit targets with the .50 cal. though. Most of the guys in our company did not try to use the sights on the gun. They would try to walk the fire onto the target. I had good results using the sight and having my squad leader spot the rounds for me. I noticed from pictures of sailors firing naval .50's that they kept their heads away from the sights, so that they could still use the sights while they were trying to walk the rounds onto the target. I don't know how effective they were, but that seemed like the best approach to me.

Soviets: Okay, we have a new weapon Everyone else: OUR weapon

I was enemy force 1989, on a Canadian lynx. While waiting for the enemy to show up I grab some duck Tape, pop cans, empty flares tubes and my AFV hand book I made DShK . When the attack was over some troops dismounted to check out new enemy force machine gun. They where very disappointed…lol

Duh, somebody must create a channel called "comments for T&P videos" 1. too many wrong HMGs in the video, from varius Chinese 12.7mm to 14.5mm KPVT 2. German 13.2mm round has had quite a lot of energy to cycle a machine gun, which Germans actually made as TuF. Also, pictured round appears to be much later 7.9mm PzB round, which again has had plenty of energy to cycle experimental MGs ;) 3. Development of DShK has nothing to do with M2, which has not been born yet, but it stemmed from German TuF and British Vickers .50 In fact, before adopting 12.7x108, Soviets experimented with .50 Vickers (12.7x81) cartridge in late 1920s 4. DK has no revolving feed mechanism, but just a cartridge drum. Revolving belt feed was designed by Schpagin (check your spelling, man), and hence the change to DSHK name 5. Most modern DShK in use are of DShKM pattern of 1946, with redesigned "slab-top" belt feed which has nothing to do with Schpagin ;) 6. It was as "obsolete" as a Ma-Deuce by 1941 against tanks, but both were quite effective against light armor and aircraft. PS if you really want to do decently accurate videos about Russian equipment, feel free to contact me, and I'm not joking.

@Taskandpurpose

2 жыл бұрын

these videos are entertainment not historical pieces I make these videos in my sweat pants from my tiny apartment because I love firearms and its fun. End of the day it's still more realistic than the history channels content!.....although checkback here in a few years and I guarantee I too will be making ancient alien content. but my UFO videos will be more accurate than theirs. That's a promise. At the same time I really do appreciate the feedback and I do try to get every detail correct best I can! but my main goal is to tell a story and maybe interest new people in the firearms world who otherwise would not have been.

@user-yj8vj3sq6j

2 жыл бұрын

He does that on purpose, Maxim

@nicolas8098

2 жыл бұрын

scrolling the comms were worth it , seeing the man shitting on T&B as everyone should

@rodncin

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose Over time, you will be remembered as a bullshit artist instead of a military expert. As an 11 Bravo myself, I have tuned in to see what a fellow grunt had to say and to see you get through your growing pains. But after watching you trying to "fake it till you make it" I can only conclude you are just winging it and have no plans to actually improve your content. It is becoming an embarrassment to the the rest of us who served, please try to do better.

@mpopenker

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taskandpurpose I believe it is entirely possible to be entertaining AND have your facts and spellings correct. Especially when you have huge audience and can easily find volunteers that can help with languages you don't know, be that Russian, Finnish, Chinese or French, or any other.

nice!! i like the4 new intro!!!

Not Dishka, but Dashka. The name Dashka came from the female name (Dasha, Daria), just like Svetka - SVT-40 (Sveta, Svetlana), and Ksuha - AKS-74U (Ksyusha, Oksana). There are also names such as "Sapog" (Boot) - SPG-9 and Pokemon - PKM.

@Dionach

2 жыл бұрын

200 round belts - for when you really gotta catch 'em all!

@TheAskeron

2 жыл бұрын

"Душкой" его тоже время от времени называют, если мне память не изменяет

@HellbirdIV

2 жыл бұрын

In English it's generally pronounced as 'Dushka' due to the way English pronounces 'D' and 'Sh' without a vowel in-between. Getting the exact pronounciation between different languages is tricky at the best of times, easier to just accept foreigners sound weird :P

Have always loved them in detailed wargames like Steel Panthers and they are super handy early war against the German lightweights. Kinda interested in that new 50, how’d they get it so light yet control the recoil? Good show!

@aarongracey4710

2 жыл бұрын

I loved steel panthers I still have it but my pc just gets confused when I ask it to run that old a game. Lol

@RedIria

5 ай бұрын

Control recoil? In Soviet Russia, recoil control you!

Like putting a new rim on your tire 🤣🤣😂 love you cappy 🤜

It is a monster I won’t lie, Capp how do you feel we incorporate .70 or .90 cal to upgrade the .50 cal a bit. I think the .70 cal would be a great start and a monster to mess with!! I mean it takes down elephants!!

@_Admin_01.

2 жыл бұрын

The US Army toyed with a .60 cal, 15.2mm, which was reverse engineered from an MG 151/15.

@dclark1980

2 жыл бұрын

0.70in = 17.78mm 0.90in = 22.86mm 20mm = 0.78in 25mm = 0.98in 30mm = 1.18in So it turn it into a discount 20mm or discount 25mm? The problem becomes ammo capacity and ammo weight. You start needing a bigger and more powerful vehicle to carry a relevant amount of ammunition. Just my two cents.

@demondaeys123

2 жыл бұрын

@@dclark1980 I do agree.. good point but hey bro, WERE AMERICAN BIGGER IS ALWAYS BETTER THE MORE AMMO THE BETTER TO RIGHT? Whatever keeps the children and women safe in the USA right? Whatever helps and works to make and keep us on having the advantage. I rather the USA be he world leader than China or Russia!!!

@flightlesschicken7769

2 жыл бұрын

50 BMG is already more powerful than any elephant cartridge

@_Admin_01.

2 жыл бұрын

@@flightlesschicken7769 You haven't met 700 Nitro Express have you?

DSHK gun used in #KGFChapter2 an Indian Movie (Kannada Film)!

The name Dshka is not the same as dushka that is simpl a nickname because it’s sounds similar It’s just like the gun PPsH which is pronounced “papa-shaw” in Russian. Those aren’t just random letters for them they are actual words in just seems weird thinking about it in the context of our western languages that generally use the same letters and follow similar rules. Just wanted to clarify that since i recently got into an argument about this and spent time looking into it and it’s hard to get a simple answer like what I just gave cus everyone is confused lol. So hopefully that helped.

One thing that always impressed me about the DSHK is it's use of flaps to lock the bolt, just like the DP-27-John in Texas

It does carry a specific meaning in Russian, "душка" as a person kind of life of the part, nice to deal with. Not someome special, not even close. DSHKA is the prononciation of actual name. And it is extremely reliable, except when made in China. :)

@mortarriding3913

2 жыл бұрын

Chinese industry has surpassed Russian industry in tolerances. I know Russians in key cities that import industrial equipment from there now. If the Chinese ones were unreliable in the past, they've probably resolved that now.

@GoldenGod69

2 жыл бұрын

@@mortarriding3913 chinese Ak’s are still 💩 though

@mortarriding3913

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoldenGod69 you've had a close look at a new one? How many companies is there even producing those still?

With the right ammunition, a 50cal can shoot through many tanks that were used in WWII. Only the late war tanks had side armour thick enough to be safe and some modern tanks could be severely damaged as well!

@alastairbarkley6572

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but so can most anti-tank rifles e.g. the bolt-action, mag-fed British Boys' Rifle - 0.55in, 14mm. A single round penetrating the turret of e.g. Pz 1, armoured cars and so on, sprays a lot of metal fragments around inside. Is there really a need for an anti-materiel, anti-tank MACHINE GUN? Anti-tank rifles flatlined in popularity by about the end of 1940. The Brits lost about 3,500 at Dunkirk and never saw the need to replace any of them.

@edi9892

2 жыл бұрын

@@alastairbarkley6572 I do see merrits: Against lightly armoured vehicles Against infantry behind walls or sandbags Against anti tank guns with steel plates for protection of the crew In a last ditch effort to damage an enemy tank