I didn't win the set but I won at life today. I was granted custody of my daughter ❤

@whiskybravo4648

2 ай бұрын

That is the best thing I heard today. Congrats on the win, that’s a bigger win than anything I can think of. Dad’s are so important in their kids lives.

@davidportnoy3237

2 ай бұрын

If you are female you always do! nothing special, if you're a man CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That's almost a impossibility!!

@g0d53nd

2 ай бұрын

Hell ya brother. I been there so I know what you had to go through. Congrats!

@pokemonfanya

2 ай бұрын

Big ups lad

@deathkitty1177

2 ай бұрын

Congratulations 🎊

The problem is they set a standard for pull rates in SV era that was way more attainable than SWSH and then they changed the pull rates back towards SWSH-esque. I don’t like the back n forth, I was just getting excited to actually open SV bc you CAN pull a chase, but not if they’re continuing in this direction. Hopefully they can find some sort of happy medium between obsidian and temporal forces

@Probasaur

Ай бұрын

Very well said. opening SV has been much more enjoyable than SWSH. Would prefer they don’t go back to the dog days of sw sh. Never opened a single alt art however have pulled the Iono from Paldea evolved and the mew from Paldean fates. Compared to the absolute nothing I was pulling in sw sh era it’s been like night and day.

I'm glad they left the illustration rare pull rate alone but if they're going to make the SIRs that much more rare they really need to work on making the full arts hit a little better. That way you feel like you're getting nice cards while still making the highest rarities super cool to pull.

Great information, horrible news. Pull rates this hard make the pack opening experience not fun at all.

The change in pull rates right before 151 is what bothers me. I was hoping the pull rates were the same as the previous sets before it. I was really annoyed by it. I basically stopped opening packs after like pack number 40

The change in pull rates has helped me cut back. Sadly i have to cut back on the pokemon hobby. Life has gotten expensive. Have to get a new roof and solar. Aka more bills.

@jijowajaknxanma3439

2 ай бұрын

Me too I stopped opening this year. These singles will still be around ten years from now, I have no rush.

@austinschuessler6592

Ай бұрын

Same, with the pull rates of the last 3 sets I've opened considerably less packs. Paldean Fates and 151 were fun though!

@dsmachine3468

Ай бұрын

@@austinschuessler6592I completely agree with you guys. I loved opening up Pladea evolved and Paradox rift. Even though I’m loving these new sets I’ve cut back on buying product. I wonder why they thought this was a good idea??

@ColossusDR

Ай бұрын

Voting matters...

Seeing the numbers in front of you really helps with understanding why these sets are different

Great video, I learned a lot from it! Thank you

Really great data Phanny. One of my favorite videos to date.

Amazing data. Thanks so much, Danny.

Really interesting analysis. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the meetings where they determine this stuff at the Pokemon Company.

great vid phanny. breaking down the art of the pull

I'm not sure if I missed it, but could you add a stat to your data of the approximate sweet spot with each set of opening packs to buying singles, if you're trying to master a set? Mathematically is it better to open 50? 75? Then buy the rest at singles with a given set? I know there's a lot of variables with single prices on a moving market. And it would vary with being able to pre order booster packs for $2 EA vs $5 EA later in the life of a set.

What makes this incredibly frustrating after hearing this is that pokemon had options and chose the worst one. They could have created more SIRs which would have increased the variance difficulty and they could have left the rate at one per box. Instead they moved the rarity which has to take away 10-15 dollars of value from each box at a minimum. Add in the increased MSRP and pokemon nerfed the value of their product by almost 30-40 dollars. I think this has priced out a lot of people and needs to be looked at more.

@jamesgraves9858

Ай бұрын

Spot on. They don't seem to understand that they can have more of a rarity and leave you still chasing a particular card

@flychomperfly

Ай бұрын

Yes! That is the problem. Thank you.

@Theu131

Ай бұрын

This is actually a really good solution. That way people can’t complain about not getting top tier cards in every box.

@UrAveragePlayer0

Ай бұрын

Profit making companies want to make money 🤷🏻‍♂️

@moody9898

Ай бұрын

@UrAveragePlayer0 for me, I've bought a lot less from pokemon and a lot more singles from the secondary market. Pokemon isn't seeing any of that money. And I know I'm just one person and don't speak for everyone, but it just doesn't feel good to open an entire booster box and maybe get 50% of my money back. And it isn't all about the money, but when you are looking at the checklist and seeing that you are missing every medium to big card in the set it has to put people off. Embarrassingly, the last 4 boxes I have opened have not had a SIR. Terrible luck, but after I opened two boxes of twilight masquerade and saw that I would need to spend 700+ to complete the set when the entire set is only worth around 780 I swore off buying sealed all together because the value just isn't there.

I just traded in all my bulk/dupes to get the singles I wanted. Not buying any sealed until Team Rocket (if it lives up to hype) then won’t again until the next great set. These pull rates are making opening product boring and expensive.

@matttran7161

Ай бұрын

Same. I traded in a load of bulk steadily over months to get Charizard V from Brilliant Stars. Was doubly happy to clear the bulk and get the card.

@deathbymazda

Ай бұрын

@@matttran7161 Nice. I used mine to fill up the remaining cards I needed for 151

@MamoswineBING

Ай бұрын

Everyone said the same thing during SwSh... how are those sealed products looking?

This is such important info! So many people are complaining about the prices of illustration rares like Magikarp and saying that the rarity doesn’t justify the price. I’m so glad someone finally showed why they’re so expensive!

Always love the data dives!

Danny if any casual collector watches anyone of your videos for the whole SV generation so far this is it!! Thanks for the amazing content and effort put into this it’s very appreciated!! Especially when trying to decide what sets to buy for children for gifts. God bless you and the family!!! Praying you are having a good summer and are well!

Great content!! Very insightful. I always like to watch your pull rate videos before I dump $$$

This is the single most important and informational video ever created for the pokemon community. Thanks Danny this explains alot.

I opened a Twilight Masquerade booster box and ETB and didn't get a single full art supporter. The best I got was 2 Ace Specs. Worst set I've ever opened.

@d6rknlmb644

Ай бұрын

Yup. screw those ace specs. SV base up to Paldea Fates is peak SV era

@kennymorelandiii9406

Ай бұрын

​@d6rknlmb644 paradox rift had slightly tougher pull rates and so did 151 but those sets are nice. The past 2 sets Twilight and Temporal are both lame as hell though the pull rates make it no fun to open as you're spending $100+ for a booster box and might get $20 in value

You gained about 20-25k subscribers by being consistent. My man.

This video only reaffirms how much the fun cost matters when it comes to opening sets. If anything, I want my fun cost balanced with the chances of chasing a special card while still having a great chance at feeling like I'm getting value while doing so. Bar none, Paldea Evolved is the set that hits the mark as the best in the SV era. Great video as always Danny!

I said it before and I'll say it again. Paldea Evolved is my favourite expansion thus far and none of the others have come close. Not only does it have some of my personal favourite cards, but it also has the best chances to get them.

There is a fine line of keeping cards desirable from pull rates and keeping the set fun to open from pull rates. I think crown zenith was the perfect set. They have so much awesome art that your pull rates of good cards is actually quiet good and the cards aren't $3 each.

Ya the excitement from opening packs is dying for me. I just feel like I’ve wasted money when I open so much product and get even duplicates of bad “rare” cards.

The data from the chart at 29:00 is underrated

Wow, I love the math behind pokemon..you are the man Danny!

Your videos take such a daunting and sometimes toxic subject and make it easy to listen to and entertaining. Thank you kind sir

This actually makes sense to me. Because I’m missing the most ex cards from obsidian flames for my master sets. But I have pulled doubles of the hyper rares and special illustrations. Amazing data dive! Thank you!!

Awesome recap here Danny! The amount of work in not just putting together the numbers but actual opening and tracking of pack is something I can fully understand and THANK YOU for all you do. Much love and we hope you're here with us for a long time to come Danny.

Pull rates….yup Pokemon is big business. We had some fun with the earlier SV expansions, hopefully pull rates will get beter on expansions to come so we can have some more fun 😊

Finally! Back to the nitty gritty number crunching content I watch y you for. Good stuff

I rarely open packs. Usually, I just save up and buy singles. I'd rather definitely have the card I want than a chance at nothing. (It's evolving skies and fusion strikes fault 😂). I used to only open packs, but 9 etbs and only 1 full art made me switch to singles.

Congrats Neisan

Thank you for these analysis

danny - we really appreciate the in depth analysis. The "better" pull rates early on SV were fun - especially for young kids. Let's see what happens next.

Seriously I hope the pokemon company sees this and hires you as a consultant

Awesome video Danny

Phenomenal video also a stats nerd so I appreciate the logic

Is anyone noticing the slow down in purchasing or is it nondesirable sets?

@d6rknlmb644

Ай бұрын

Ace Specs being the "hit" out of a 164 dollar booster box is why no one wants to rip anymore. Collectors want illustrations not humiliating pink cards

@kennymorelandiii9406

Ай бұрын

​@@d6rknlmb644I don't think it's because they are pink. Prime catcher is an easy sell

C.C. got good energy with him definitely positive vibes. His insight on things is very interesting. Bless you brother 🙏🏾

My box of Paradox Rift had neither SIR nor gold and my one booster box of Temporal Forces at least had one gold...I guess I'm really unlucky with Paradox Rift then

I opened a s&v base set booster box an got 2 sirs out of one booster box

I not haven’t good luck with pulls from this set

They have more than enough money to ensure that every ex in the set gets an equivalent SIR. If the Japanese don't want to fund it or change their set structure, there is no reason why TPCi cannot do it given that English is the most sold product. That would be a better way to live up to the ridiculous MSRP increase rather than nerfing pull rates. Furthermore, quality control has taken a jump off a cliff in SV era with printlines galore. Even worse QC for a higher price? There are people at TPCi earning too much and not delivering any results. Too focused on flooding useless products into the market. Enough energy bricks, dice, poison and burn markers, clouded sleeves, jumbo cards - especially 'special' sets where people are forced to buy ETBs and therefore accumulate junk. Even card stores don't need them because there are too many. Donating junk to kids is not generous, it's cruel because it's junk.

Pull rates are atrocious. I haven't even pulled a full art out of like 50 packs. Granted I've gotten a couple of art rares but c'mon.... This set isn't good enough to warrant rates this difficult

Good video!

Wow! R u sure u got the exact same pull rates for paldea evolved as u did for base set?? I feel like base set has higher pull rate plus its rare to have data perfectly mirrored like this and not be something thats well known.

Great video! Appreciate the time and effort! We are trying to grow our collection too!!! Love the thrill of the chase!

Congrats to the winner, thank you Danny for uploading. The binder is amazing

Twilight masquerade is the biggest joke of a set when it comes to pull rates. I've opened an etb, two booster bundles, and 10 sleeved packs. 3 exs and two illustration rares between everything. That is 31 packs!!! They're going back to the sword and shield era of pull rates for pokémon and trainers that aren't even cool. Meanwhile I open an etb and a zapdos box of 151 and get one sir in the etb and three in the zapdos box. They need to get it together.

U didnt list the number of god packs u got in 151. I wanna know the chances...i feel extremely lucky to have pulled a zard god pack even tho the zard has a messed up corner :(.

I agree with the break down. Those are huge changes in pull rates and crazy how obsidian flames pull rates are

I always just wait for pull rate data before buying sets, so I always appreciate your pull rate videos. Won’t rip any packs with pull rates like these. Just is not fun for me. But honestly, back in the day, getting 12 hits a box was great, as there may have only been 12 hits in the set with an equal shot at each one. But Pokemon has had tons more crazy rarities and junk and the amount of packs to complete a set has gotten beyond absurd. Instead of making SIRs more rare, they should have just made IRs less rare. Would have been great at like 1/8 or something. Seeing expected packs needed to pull a full set over time would be interesting and annoying in equal measure.

Like winning 3,000 booster packs. She's a beauty!

Glad they are making harder pull rates but why they got get rid of double bangers to do that. The issue also was they try to add value having a holo and reverse but it made those cards devalue it did the opposite.

I focus on buying singles now more than opening packs since the pull rates have been rough. Congrats on the winner 🎉🎉

Some of the best info I've seen in a long time. thanks!

All I have to say is WOW. I need the Greenent EX now! It’s so rare! 😅

Absolute banger video, Danny! The "nerfed" pull rates in recent sets make total sense now with the context that they were never meant to be as good as they were to begin with. TPCi really dropped the ball on this one. The perception going forward will likely be that Pokemon pulled the rug out from under people by changing pull rates and will likely lead to less interest in ripping packs to chase cards. But if enough people lose interest in ripping and turn to singles, where will the supply of singles come from? TPCi may also see the lower sales numbers as an indication to print less which further exacerbates the issue. I don't think it will get to the point where we see Moonbreon level prices on SIRs, but there is big potential for a snowball effect to occur here and lead to price inflation.

They are numbering figures on Pokemon center they may explore the card side🤷‍♂️

3 ETB 151 only 3 pull 2 full art and 1 EX

Base set was 12 per box... evolving skies was 7 per box. Those lenticular "foils" in evolving skies that were not large images were not any fun.

Great information and congratulations to the winner

Need to win one of these 🤞

Great stuff as always dude!

I never win but congrats wish I could attest get the graninja

good pull rates is what brought me back to buying packs. WIth terribel pull rates, it just makes me want to buy singles instead of packs. "The chase" really dont hit me in any type of way because I am not trying to blow buckets of money to try to maybe pull a card if I can just buy it for way cheaper.

@XingCollectables

2 ай бұрын

Yup and when people start just wanting to buy the singles it dramatically inflates the price of those singles. Which is why we see all these new SIRs rise in price fast. I used to open 4 bbs to start my master sets but with how bad the rates have been I now only do 2 and use the $200 I would of spent on 2 more bbs to buy singles. Spend $100-120 on a bb and pull no sir or use that to buy multiple of the lower end ones?

Loving all these stats! Not loving the newer pull rates, though. Will be really interested to see how Shrouded Fable pull rates pan out.

Danny do you dream about pull rates? You are the pull rate king

I’ve pulled 15 SIRs from TM in just over 700 packs. I must say 5 of those SIRs came from loose sleeve packs and random 6 pk boosters. I’ve gotten very lucky pulling SIRs from none sealed cases. I did open 1 sealed case of booster boxes and 2 sleeve cases.

I will be buying singles and about 80% less than I have been.

Great information Danny. Your numbers correlate with our pull rates here in Australia.

Danny the numbers man 💯😎😎

Miriam is like $20 now lol

Gratz to the winner ❤

PAF Wugtrio, i’ve pulled 12 of those…. I lol every time

Congratulations Neisan!

Here's a theory: Pokemon was trying to build hype for Scarlet and Violet and intentionally made better pull rates for the first amount of sets they dropped. Just like how their first wave of products they drop for each set have crazy pulls. Just a speculation, but definitely is a good marketing strategy.

i opened 15 packs and got 0 hits not even a normal ex

Amazing video, I will rewatch to take these numbers in again a lot of info! Thank you!

Congratulations to niesan!

Great analysis as always, Danny!!

love your stuff

Good rates can make it fun but it ofc cuts down the prices. I think I like what swsh did best still at the end, hard to pull a alt but has goodies with gallery cards sprinkled in.

Imma win one of these master sets eventually lol keep up the great content Danny!

@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax

Ай бұрын

Hmmmm, in keeping with the spirit of the video, you have about a 1/2500 chance of winning a master set , so just need about 50+ years to win!

@wigginsofhipfire

Ай бұрын

I swear I get the weirdest replies when I comment on Danny’s videos

@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax

Ай бұрын

@@wigginsofhipfire if math is weird, then u don’t wanna be normal!!! 🥹🤔! You can win a master set after I win one! How about that?

Why all this change pokemon????? Most ppl like at least a little bit of consistency!

Great info thanks it might just be easier to buy the card u want cause u could spend more on packs trying to get the card u want 😊

Opened 13 sleeved packs pulled magikarp. Danny’s off his rocker.

love your videos Danny Phantump.

great video, thanks for showing all the information. Temporal forces for me was a little too rough for openings, twilight masquerade was a little bette. I think scarlet and violet 151 had the best balance of value/chases/pull rates.

Danny you are the man. Keep up the good work. Love your videos!

Thats why i just buy singles off ebay. I dont have the time, finances or energy to spend money on packs or etb at stores just to chase cards i want.

Hi danny!!!

I was talking with my brother about this. I think pull rates changed when they introduced Ace Specs. I think it is weighting the Ace Spec as a great hit. Anytime I get one I know I’m not getting anything else great.

Danny the man phanthum

Congrats to neisan!

Completely agree with the obsidian flames stats and comments. I bought a case (6 boxes) and was missing 3 cards for my master set. My luck ran out when i got to paldea evolved and temporal forces however :(

Before I clicked the vid, I saw the watch time and thought "Whoa... this is pretty long for a Danny vid" but now I know why. This was a terrific vid! I think your sample sizes are big enough to get a fair assessment on pull rates we'll never truly understand. It's pretty nuts how much things have changed from the beginning of S&V 'til now. This also proves that it wasn't my imagination when I thought Temporal and Twilight are pretty generous with low to mid-tier hits but stingy with the upper echelon stuff. Personally I still think cards of the same rarity are not printed in equal numbers, at least not for the higher rarities. Just because they're cut from the same sheet, it doesn't mean they all have to have an equal number of prints on that sheet. Just an example but there's a ton of people who've pulled multiples of all the FA shinies from Shining Fates but the Zard eludes them. Stuff like this happens often enough to make me believe they're not printed in the same numbers. Congrats @neisan0319!!! What a prize to walk away with! Huge shout out to Danny and the Phan Clan member who made that binder for making this such a special and amazing giveaway!