How Powerful Was the Scourge? - World of Warcraft Lore

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Scourge, how powerful was it in the lore and what is the current state? Leave your thoughts below on what you think?
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In this video I cover the creation of the first Lich King from Ner'Zhul and the initial process of building up the Scourge. Later I cover the Third war and the Arthas storyline, leading up to the Wrath of the Lich King era. There I talk about what the scourge was, what it consisted of and how powerful it really had gotten. At the end I cover the death of Arthas and the current state of the Scourge in World of Warcraft: Legion.
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  • @scottcavill4807
    @scottcavill48077 жыл бұрын

    Undead Unholy DK. So ummm... I was human, then died. Then was raised as undead. Then broke free and became forsaken. Then "died" again and became a DK. Then broke free again and became a forsaken DK. ... and now am enslaved to the new Lich King in Legion and forced to fight the Burning Legion?

  • @RhadaGhast100

    @RhadaGhast100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nope, You are not enslaved to the new Lich King.

  • @scottcavill4807

    @scottcavill4807

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well the new Lich King is telling me to do things. Speaking directly into my mind. Sending me on quests etc. Never seen the option to tell him off yet.

  • @Nosnillev

    @Nosnillev

    7 жыл бұрын

    Scott Cavill Well, you didn't die a second time. You basically died, and when you were ressurected, your body was already in an advanced state of decomposition, and because of that, after you broke free from the Lich King, you were accepted into the Forsaken

  • @RhadaGhast100

    @RhadaGhast100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Scott Cavill Well, you are not a slave lol. No where in lore says you are and I'm pretty sure you have a choice in the matter.

  • @scottcavill4807

    @scottcavill4807

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ok so if i understand this correctly ... I am a undead forsaken that does everything the new Lich King demands but only this time it is of my own free will.

  • @Nerazmus
    @Nerazmus7 жыл бұрын

    Never forget that from everything that happened, war in Northrend was the bloodiest conflict in recent history (since opening of them dark portal). What show it most is event that most of people don't know about: You know the Cathedral of Light? (that giant ass building in Stormwind). After defeat of LK, ceremony was hold in memory of fallen heroes. The cathedral was full of people, standing right next to each other with more people gathering outside. Each person that was there held a candle, and Archbishop Benedictus announced that each candle doesn't burn for 1 hero, not for 10 heroes, but for 100 heroes that fell in Northrend. At this point Jaina cried taking in the fact that at least 50 000 only Alliance soldiers died there.

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, definitely many have perished. That is the main reason why the Scourge reached such numbers.

  • @TheRogueminator

    @TheRogueminator

    7 жыл бұрын

    50.000 Alliance soldiers! Are you sure about that? But well, the war against the Lich King was a brutal and bloody one, so maybe you're right.... 50.000 ALLIANCE SOLDIERS ONLY! That's even without all the dead from the previous expansions, and Warcraft 1-3, and I wonder how many The Horde has lost through the times...

  • @Nerazmus

    @Nerazmus

    7 жыл бұрын

    Simon Huus Kristensen Yes I'm sure about that. I would say that Horde lost similar amount of soldiers.

  • @TheRogueminator

    @TheRogueminator

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mr.Vojtik Okay, cool. A massive amount, especially for the fantasy world of Azeroth! (doesn't the planet have another, more original name??) I wonder what the Legion invasion now will cost....

  • @Nerazmus

    @Nerazmus

    7 жыл бұрын

    Simon Huus Kristensen For how much do you count Varion?

  • @Sigxy
    @Sigxy7 жыл бұрын

    I still consider to this day that the Scourge is the biggest threat we've ever faced. Sure, the Burning Legion managed to make sure that Azeroth split into all the continents, but they still didn't manage to destroy it. And they sort of tried again in the burning crusade but we quickly end up on Outland to rid of them. And now they are attacking again, giving them a chance to do even worse than before. And yes, I know if the Burning Legion had a fight against the Scourge, the undead would lose. But that being said, considering what we got to know from WotLK: The Scourge was held back. And if we didn't have a new Lich King, the undead would be a much greater threat to Azeroth. There was a part of Arthas that kept them in check, just as how Bolvar does it now. So... we've fought the Burning Legion when they try their hardest each time. Then we fought the Scourge that was being 'held back'. So because of that, to Azeroth: The Scourge has been the biggest threat so far - the Legion just never manage to get enough forces in. The rest of the unvierse though, definitely the Burning Legion (Or void Lords, maybe.)

  • @Zippism

    @Zippism

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh boy did blizzard fuck wow story up

  • @Skanderbeg99
    @Skanderbeg997 жыл бұрын

    WOTLK had the best soundtrack imo

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    It definitely had some of the best Warcraft music. Legion is starting to catch up though with some really good soundtracks.

  • @Skanderbeg99

    @Skanderbeg99

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doronsmovies Omg omg omg omg, Doronsmovies just replied to me!! *is having a epileptic seizure*

  • @luanhenrique8733

    @luanhenrique8733

    7 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion wod was the worst expansion but had the best soundtrack. The draenei and orc culture that you listen on musics are so danm awesome and motivates

  • @stefanzaric2111

    @stefanzaric2111

    7 жыл бұрын

    I kinda prefer Cata, so much variation and originality.

  • @ChazzMcBad

    @ChazzMcBad

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mop's music is also amazing, hearing each xpac's music instantly takes me back to a different part of my life. I got some super nostalgia recently in legion on the wondering isle

  • @TheCrimsonAtom
    @TheCrimsonAtom7 жыл бұрын

    The Scourge could be eventually be a match to the Legion BUT it would take a very long time as Arthas says in the broken isles memory "The dead will always outnumber the living".

  • @Ryon21_
    @Ryon21_7 жыл бұрын

    I'm wondering if you could do the theory that Ner'zhul isn't dead and that he is attached to the Helm of Domination. He was the one that manipulate Bolvar and the ghosts of Frostmourne so that the Horde, Alliance and Argent Crusade thought that the Scourge needs a leader when in reality it doesn't. If you think it it makes sense so that he could fulfill its vengeance against the Burning Legion and he's going to use the Heroes of Azeroth (as allies I hope) to get rid of Kil'jaeden, because the one that wanted to destroy the world was Arthas. Ner'zhul only participate in the Third War so he could get more undeads to his army and betray the Legion. It's a theory I've been thinking about. A tricky one I would say. What's your opinion?

  • @Ryon21_

    @Ryon21_

    7 жыл бұрын

    And another thing, if the Lich King was Bolvar, he wouldn't have sent the Death Knights to resurrect an old friend as Tirion and attack the Light's Hope to achieve it.

  • @Skrubs

    @Skrubs

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same though i have, no wonder Lich King was successful all the time, he needed Arthas' death

  • @look7236

    @look7236

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like Ner'zhul as Lich King more than Arthas. And I always thought that Ner'zhul had greater power than we saw.

  • @peggywowiling1878

    @peggywowiling1878

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@look7236 nerzhul is the lich king

  • @1998taci
    @1998taci7 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done mate contains every little detail that is required, a solid introduction and a great conclusion everyhing we can demmand from a lore type video

  • @atolm1
    @atolm17 жыл бұрын

    Love this summation/narrative, so much fun to watch!

  • @bobbybiggerstaff7269
    @bobbybiggerstaff72697 жыл бұрын

    This has me wondering it the Legion could in some way retake control over the scourge. Or if they have been experimenting with other races and planets as well. We do know from the War of the Ancients novel that the Legion was experimenting with the fallen Night Elf defenders, turning them into un-dead creatures. Not quite what the scurge is now, but like a pre-scourge thing. Or maybe this time was their 1st experiments with it.... I don't really recall?

  • @Nerazmus

    @Nerazmus

    7 жыл бұрын

    They have different ways of making new soldiers. giving power - Eredars, corrupting - Orcs, ....

  • @visitkotor9663

    @visitkotor9663

    7 жыл бұрын

    Orcs during their invasion on Azeroth had numerous necrolytes and warlocks that knew how to control the undead, but my guess is that the Scourge was a result of attempting to have perfect minions without the fear that they would rebel like the orcs eventually did. Guess that didn't went as planned, so there aren't similar projects to the Scourge. Also there is a chance Scourge under the Arthas begun absorbing the powers of Void Lords thus utterly alienating in anything Legion originally planned.

  • @BonesofStarlight
    @BonesofStarlight6 жыл бұрын

    I miss the Lich King. I started in 09 just after the launch of Wrath, and damn, do I miss that crazy, twisted, broken man.

  • @AdrianB-uv3np
    @AdrianB-uv3np7 жыл бұрын

    again, well done doron i like what you do here and dorronsmovies is 1 of my favorite youtube chanels

  • @alpkaandabanloglu5669
    @alpkaandabanloglu56696 жыл бұрын

    I think if Arthas didnt lose he would become something like a deity and take on legion oh man i wish that happened

  • @mustafacemaksu4706

    @mustafacemaksu4706

    5 жыл бұрын

    no way

  • @mr1337viking
    @mr1337viking7 жыл бұрын

    Really nice work, keep it up!

  • @Kitty-om9il
    @Kitty-om9il4 жыл бұрын

    really well-made videos :3 I like listening to them while I draw!~

  • @thedarkkitty1895
    @thedarkkitty18957 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video man, I love your content.

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. :)

  • @peoro4045
    @peoro40458 ай бұрын

    remember seeing this exact video back in 2016 really good stuff

  • @Herle1233
    @Herle12337 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video Doronsmovies like always :)

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I appreciate it. :)

  • @Defileros
    @Defileros7 жыл бұрын

    I think that the biggest weakness of the Scourge was Chris Metzen himself

  • @luanhenrique8733

    @luanhenrique8733

    7 жыл бұрын

    I kinda agree hahaha. On lich king expansion and before we were simple heroes fighting to save the world but when cataclysm came out we turned into gods. Thats something thst always bothers me when i play multiplayer games with a lot of history involved

  • @Restitutor-Orbis

    @Restitutor-Orbis

    7 жыл бұрын

    I so agree with that, it bothered me so much to kill the Lich King as he was the unstoppable wrecking train of WC3 and we...were about footies at best. Not the hero classes of WC3. Now it seems like we are all special little snowflakes that are the true hope for Azeroth and I personally think its kinda stupid. How could we (I'm a paladin and not near Uther's strength) kill the Lich King? Defeat him maybe, push him back sure and now with this class hall stuff I'm the "High Lord" of the Silver Hand...please. The only way I can think they can write this into lore is if we somehow are all actually one. Like all the paladins in WoW are actually one Paladin in the lore so to speak, etc etc.

  • @stefanzaric2111

    @stefanzaric2111

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well there are multiple joints where all players are the same person, all hordes/ally are the same person, all paladins are the same person and so on. And in the lore you are probally around the level of power of Uther now.

  • @stefanzaric2111

    @stefanzaric2111

    7 жыл бұрын

    How exatly do you meen we turned into gods in cata i wonder?

  • @Defileros

    @Defileros

    7 жыл бұрын

    The prophecy/choosen bullshit is also on both diablo 3 and starcraft 2... the nephilim... kerrigan... the real problem with blizzard games is the choosen one clichè on the story for now... Because the gameplay and optimization are great at the moment

  • @victorolson1477
    @victorolson14777 жыл бұрын

    Arthas could of raised demons as undead it seems like the Ebon blade is doing that cause you can see Amal'thazad experimenting on demons and we also used demon body parts to create rotgutt

  • @aidanniles1788
    @aidanniles17887 жыл бұрын

    So cool. Do more of the how powerful are the classes please.

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Will continue that series with the next few videos.

  • @MarKo_SoLo
    @MarKo_SoLo7 жыл бұрын

    Amazing Lore Video.

  • @ksherman51
    @ksherman517 жыл бұрын

    awesome vid! How far down your list is the how powerful are mages video?

  • @daniellombardi3670
    @daniellombardi36707 жыл бұрын

    I cant even describe how fucking good this channel is, keep it up!!!!

  • @dreamermagister8561
    @dreamermagister85617 жыл бұрын

    From what I gathered in my researchs in his ultimate form the Lich King was actually able to control Knights of the Ebon Blade and the Forsaken yet he didnt because of his plan to create the ultimate fighting force as he described in the last phase of the LK fight when you DIED! Ofcourse even tho he was winning he underestimated the Light and the Ashbringer.

  • @Jarl_Hoetam
    @Jarl_Hoetam7 жыл бұрын

    Hi doronsmovies, I'm a big fan of your content (and of warcraft lore un general) and want to help grow your channel, I was wandering if you'd like me to translate to spanish your videos so more people can actually enjoy them. If you read this please respond to me. That's it man, keep on doing quality content!!!

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey, that is great to hear. I do have community subtitles enabled so you should be able to do it on any recent video. If you do do decide to translate it I would greatly appreciate it. :)

  • @SmartieLTT
    @SmartieLTT7 жыл бұрын

    i hope the scourge and kel'thuzad make a return as kel'thuzad's character is written as loyal to arthas. Perhaps since kel'thuzad hasn't been permanently killed pff he could be sheming in the background to take control and grow over time.

  • @youngzabuza8214
    @youngzabuza82147 жыл бұрын

    love these videos

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear. :)

  • @Kalimdori
    @Kalimdori6 жыл бұрын

    Dude, The Scourge was not one of the most bigest threats, it was ''THE'' Bigest threat, as Uther sayd in the ''Halls of Reflection'' He sayd that the lingering piece of Arthat that was still floating in The Lich King's mind was all that holded the Scourge from anihilating Azeroth. So by all threats that we have faced, The Scourge was the biggest threat, we were lucky that Arthas will was strong enough to hold the Lich King and the scourge to swallow every living thing. By the way, among everything we've ever faced, The Lich King was the only boss ''EVER'' to actually kill us, and i don't mean like a wipe, i mean in the lore, he actually killed us, so was the script, him killing us. This boss, will remain legend, to be the strongest there ever was, shure there are bosses as Ley Shen who had the essence of Ra'Den, but he was far from close to kill us. After all expansion i have gone through and all the challanges i've ever did, no enemie was as threatening as The Scourge. When i first walked on the road to Icecrown, i was felling like there was nothing good, only death awaited me, a light forsakened place, the coldness themed place felt as cold as the Icecrown's environment, it was and it still is the land of the dead. To be serious, what expansion was more viollend, horrifing, misterious, brutal, scary or crazyer than WotLK? I'm not saying this because WotLK was my favorite expansion, no, MoP was my favorite, but i'm speaking here the truth. I think the scourge could even overpower the Legion if it had enough time, think about it, a fallen knight raised as a Death Knight was 10 times more powerful as it was when it was alive, i wondered how powerfull a Doom/Fell Guard or any Demon would be if raised from the dead as The Ligh King's minions, Kill'Jaden created The Lich King, but that does not mean the creation can't surpass his creator, i think that when The Lich King was done with Azeroth it will turn his atention on the Legion. And to be serious, i think a Lich or a Necromancer is more powerfull than any of te Legion's minion. And... u know the Abominations, they are horrors created fro diffrend corpses, like an experiment, i think they would try the same experiment with demons, a demon abomination :) . Kill'Jaden trully created the ultimate weapon, and if gived enough time it could overpower everything. The world of the dead was evifient, and remember , demons are demons, but as like manny other creatures, they are also living creatures, they're not dead, and it means they can be used the same way. The Legion is endless in numbers because they are revived in the nether and come back, think about it, they can't return in the Nether if they are rised as undead demons :)) and with this they'r number will diminish, going down to nothing, and the Scourge will triumph.

  • @heavyarmoredmage2374
    @heavyarmoredmage23747 жыл бұрын

    have the storylines on the Azeroth especially pandaria will we be seeing allies that we have helped thru the game show up in our final showdown on azeroth with the legion aka will we see the armies of the panderia show up and not just the ones from the wondering isles?

  • @DankMemes-xq2xm
    @DankMemes-xq2xm7 жыл бұрын

    Do a How Powerful was the Titan Construct Army or How Powerful was Y'shaarj.

  • @SkurtavusGrodolfus
    @SkurtavusGrodolfus7 жыл бұрын

    Can we get a How Powerful are Warriors video? I know they aren't SUPER powerful lorewise. But a video would be interesting in any case

  • @wecros3249

    @wecros3249

    7 жыл бұрын

    like a real life warrior? cant imagine anything better if you don't have magic skills.

  • @akaliluxanna5998

    @akaliluxanna5998

    7 жыл бұрын

    accept y'know blessed by odin and cant basically die because of the valkyr and swing two massive two handers and always have kit changes because they are either worthless or broken af.

  • @TheCrimsonAtom

    @TheCrimsonAtom

    7 жыл бұрын

    Except the only one to ever wound Sargeras was an Orc Warrior! Warriors might sound weak and feeble comparing to casters or anything else, but imagine how many times simple warriors managed to take down casters. A strong warrior could stand before anything as long as he is strong enough.

  • @Tatopotatos

    @Tatopotatos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sandro The Necromancer the only reason broxigar scratched sargares is because he had the axe of cenarius. broxigar actually lost to three highborn mages that weren't even trying to injure him... warriors are very weak lorewise grom hellscream is one the strongest warriors and gul'dan defeated him with just a weave of his hand

  • @thedailyvibes4033
    @thedailyvibes40335 жыл бұрын

    I just wonder why Kil'jaeden didn't do it himself or killing the Lich King by himself knowing that he was more powerful than his own creation?

  • @KurtisShane
    @KurtisShane7 жыл бұрын

    OH god I get nervous when you do anything scourge related. You showed your bias with that DK video but we see...

  • @connorgarrett2818
    @connorgarrett28187 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a "How Powerful are Druids?"

  • @matijamilosevic5440
    @matijamilosevic54407 жыл бұрын

    doron i have a question pls answer:do rogues use some kind of magic for stealth?

  • @imthestein
    @imthestein7 жыл бұрын

    What would you say was the ultimate goal for Arthas in WotLK, I mean besides just dominating the world? As to Bolvar, I'm really hoping he's becoming more of an antihero that we'll need to ally with but no one will trust him much like most that ally with the Forsaken

  • @luanhenrique8733

    @luanhenrique8733

    7 жыл бұрын

    Since Tyrion is now dead your character is the only one who knows what happened in the frozen throne and Bolvar. That gives a lot of possibilities for good lore for the future. I hope blizzard dont disappoint us. I dont like the fact that Chris Metzen retired

  • @imthestein

    @imthestein

    7 жыл бұрын

    Right, but I was speaking of what would happen in a future expansion should others learn of him and need his aid. I haven't finished the DK campaign yet but I have started it so I was aware of the DK relation to him.

  • @hunter9188

    @hunter9188

    7 жыл бұрын

    The DK campaign doesn't explain what's gonna happen next sadly :/ Spoilers! At the end of the campaign you go to Light's Hope Chapel to raise Tirion Fordring as a DK. You fail and instead get Darion Mograine as the 4th Horseman. And that's pretty much it.

  • @hunter9188

    @hunter9188

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** That would be nice. I'm hoping they will continue them.

  • @StarlessAH
    @StarlessAH7 жыл бұрын

    I've had a hypothesis that the crown of domination, is actually in control [even now with Bolvar] due to the darkening ways of our favourite frozen highlord- his rejection of the light, his buddy-buddy-ness with raising champions to fight "for-the-azeroth!" Would anyone else say there's validity in this?

  • @alehzanderh
    @alehzanderh7 жыл бұрын

    I hope there is some future expansion involving the return of the Scourge

  • @vlax243

    @vlax243

    7 жыл бұрын

    That expansion will fuck up the story to the point where it's not even a story.

  • @DREADLURKER

    @DREADLURKER

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cough

  • @DREADLURKER

    @DREADLURKER

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shadowlands

  • @yaloops5349
    @yaloops53494 жыл бұрын

    so nerzhul was like hey I like your architecture I think I will incorporate it into my growing empire, also I'm taking over yours.

  • @QiQigoat
    @QiQigoat7 жыл бұрын

    hey doron could you make how strong is the warden for the next episode?

  • @HannibalFromHell
    @HannibalFromHell7 жыл бұрын

    Iron horde vs Scourge pleaseeee!!

  • @lynxfly5788
    @lynxfly57887 жыл бұрын

    Such a shame Doros doesn't get any attention, Should try collab with Nobel or something cause that could help you grow

  • @TheCrimsonAtom

    @TheCrimsonAtom

    7 жыл бұрын

    People probably don't like his accent, but he is very knowledge able and he knows how to put a great video together.

  • @gamingisfuniloveit8526
    @gamingisfuniloveit85267 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video of "How strong were the High Elves"?

  • @istvanszatmari8803
    @istvanszatmari8803 Жыл бұрын

    4:38 what is the song name here?

  • @Mystra
    @Mystra5 жыл бұрын

    How about a Forsaken lore video? Or how powerful are the forsaken. Maybe both.

  • @fbk77
    @fbk777 жыл бұрын

    can you make how powerful the twilights hammer is?

  • @AtomicVisionary
    @AtomicVisionary7 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video on the void lords

  • @Litany_of_Fury
    @Litany_of_Fury7 жыл бұрын

    great video as always wanna drop a hint on the next one?

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Doing something similar to the strongest characters just this time focusing on mortals.

  • @Litany_of_Fury

    @Litany_of_Fury

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doronsmovies You gonna do a how powerful *was* or *is*?

  • @solaire2904
    @solaire29047 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the first song pls ?

  • @koshi6505
    @koshi65057 жыл бұрын

    Need Warlords of Azeroth. Alternate timeline Azeroth where Medivh is corrupted by Old Gods instead of Sargeras. It also needs goodish living Nerubians and an alternate version of the Lich King (or Queen?)

  • @viiktotre
    @viiktotre7 жыл бұрын

    Arthas will always be the true lich king!

  • @bboy7656
    @bboy76567 жыл бұрын

    i think the scourge was really strong

  • @slime8177

    @slime8177

    7 жыл бұрын

    besa plays wow spot on analysis

  • @bboy7656

    @bboy7656

    7 жыл бұрын

    yep XD

  • @MyMichalus
    @MyMichalus7 жыл бұрын

    Ner'zhul is still the lich king he gave an epick voice for bolvar

  • @kabrozkabroz
    @kabrozkabroz7 жыл бұрын

    At the end why were all the undead carrying staves lol... Is that just how it is when you spawn that stuff in with the model viewers or whatever it is you use? xD

  • @goncalopereira2110
    @goncalopereira21107 жыл бұрын

    Btw you should have mentioned the Four Horsemen. IMO they are probably some of the most powerful beings ever to exist. But that's jsut my opinion.

  • @ufuruss8629
    @ufuruss86297 жыл бұрын

    So the next expansion after legion;World of warcraft:The return of the lich king!

  • @FriscoCatshark
    @FriscoCatshark7 жыл бұрын

    One thing you didn't mention about Arthas is that he was the one who ultimately killed Ner'Zhul. While Arthas slept, he was dreaming of an old orc with a skull-painted face (Ner'Zhul) and a young, frail child (Himself/his humanity.) He ultimately, 100% as Arthas and not as the ultimate evil, decided to kill the young boy first, and then stab Ner'Zhul, saying that he himself would be the Lich King.

  • @victorolson1477

    @victorolson1477

    7 жыл бұрын

    he only killed a portion of nerzhul

  • @Skrubs

    @Skrubs

    6 жыл бұрын

    That is a book from another person,don't put it here,if it was relevant, they would have put that moment in the games

  • @YourRightSock
    @YourRightSock7 жыл бұрын

    May Arthas rest in peace. Bolvar is doing quite nice at the containment of the Scourge, however I do wonder, how far can ones will go when still connected to Ner'zhul's spirit. Will definitely see some epic stuff this expansion and the ones to come.

  • @Nerazmus

    @Nerazmus

    7 жыл бұрын

    Did you even defeated LK? Bolvar is dead.

  • @GBGSK

    @GBGSK

    7 жыл бұрын

    i think some1 is not farming on Invincible :s..

  • @YourRightSock

    @YourRightSock

    7 жыл бұрын

    Why yes in fact, I have killed him. Many times over! I must ask you now, did you watch the cinematic after he was killed? Bolvar takes on the role as The new Lich King. As you later know, he is containing the scourge otherwise they'll go rampant over the world. Thanks.

  • @Nerazmus

    @Nerazmus

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** "...(Bolvar voice)Tell them only that the LK is dead, (LK voice) and that Bolvar Fordragon died with him..."

  • @YourRightSock

    @YourRightSock

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mr.Vojtik That's what the public needs to know. But that's obviously not what happened. If the public knew about Bolvar taking up as the new Lich King, everyone would go ape shit, they're possibly lose faith with leaders, and more chaos would ensue globally, so this is the best way of keeping peace among normal life.

  • @doxorn
    @doxorn7 жыл бұрын

    I wonder when will we get a "How Powerful Are Druids?" video

  • @cookies0_013
    @cookies0_0137 жыл бұрын

    Can you do how powerful are mages plzzz

  • @theskumos
    @theskumos7 жыл бұрын

    Still wondering what happend to kel'thuzad. He isn't dead, atleast not entirely. Wondering who he is serving now or what he is up to

  • @Tyonnical

    @Tyonnical

    7 жыл бұрын

    My guess is he still serves the lich king. His phylactery was never destroyed so he should still be around.

  • @_Remorium

    @_Remorium

    7 жыл бұрын

    I doubt he will be happy that his former master was destroyed... No clue how he will react to the new Lich King, because I think that Bolvar is still in there.

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    As far as I've seen, no one really knows. He is definitely still alive as his phylactery is intact.

  • @mostsanemorrowindenjoyer
    @mostsanemorrowindenjoyer7 жыл бұрын

    The only reason Bolvar is the new Lich King is because of a Light-ex-machina...

  • @Mendinbar
    @Mendinbar7 жыл бұрын

    What about vs the Old gods' black empire?

  • @Trakosh
    @Trakosh7 жыл бұрын

    let me just start by admitting that i'm a huge scourge fan boy, and that i'm competent lorewise but not all knowing. But i'd like to throw in a few arguments as to why a war between the legion and the scourge would not be a predetermined legion win (i know i'm cutting the scourge alot of slack with these) The way i personally see the scourge is by comparison something along the lines of Skynet from Terminator. An initial weapon design that got completely out of hand, and continuously upgraded/empowered itself, with the purpose of eventually waging war against it's creater, the legion. First off, addressing the this "resolve" thing that the forces of azeroth seems to be commented on several times, that allows them to overcome impossible odds. As i see it, this "resolve" is simply the defenders fighting at their absolute maximum capabilities/fighting fanatically, because they're faced with a pretty grim alternative. While that's all well and good, doesn't the scourge also ALWAYS fight like this? i mean they're being mindcontrolled for goodness sake, so i imagine they'll be fighting at their maximum at all times. They don't fear, they don't surrender and they're practically immune to the legion's more subtle tactics, such as promises of power and fel corruption (as far as i know.) While the legions numbers are infineltly bigger than that of the scourge, imagine for a moment that Tirion hadn't gotten that final blessing at the end of ICC. Arthas would have killed and raised azeroths strongest fighters to be his own personal champions, and then proceeded to break the siege of ICC and turn the tides of the war, as was his master plan. eventually the entirety of the known world (the playable races and their lands including several others) would have fallen and put into the lich kings service. Now Arthas not only has the same kind of firepower that the forces of Azeroth had, but even more, since they're combined with Arthas' initial Scourge forces and the fact that he is able to raise corpses no matter how old they are, which means all who have died in the past, will eventually be raised and put into the scourge army. By in addition to this, the civilians of the fallen kingdoms would also be added to the arsenal. Now he has an army several times the size of Azeorth's combined forces doing the current expansion. Though when all is said and done, the legion would still be waaaaay beyond the scourge in terms of military strength. To this i say, that the Scourge has already shown that they have great adabtability, when faced with a challenging opponent, such as military tactics and style of warfare, which as far as i've seen, is something the legion is severely lacking. The Scourge are masters of some sort of attrition warfare, which they used against Lordaeron, but they're also quite competent in a more direct warfare style, as displayed in the War of the Spider and the invasion of Quel'Thalas. (This one is a bit of a stretch, but it works in my head). Originally, the plague of undeadth and the Scourge's necromantic powers only extended to raising humans (as far as i know) but we've seen that they've been able to upgrade this ability, by the fact that at this point, i believe they're able to raise all playable races (excluding worgen, besides the death knight reanimation), Including a few others such as the Nerubians and Vrukuls. And as far as i know, the plague of undeath has also been further upgraded to affect these races. With that in mind, i'm curious to why people see it as utterly impossible to raise demons in a similiar fashion. Besides, the Scourge has proven to be quite effective with whatever kind of soul magic it is they posses, which i assume could also be altered to enable ensnarement of demon souls, which in essence renders the Legion's immortality useless. And if this is the case, then shouldn't the plague of undeath also be able to further developed to affect demons, if it is, this thing could run rampant across several legion worlds, effectively destroying them without the Scourge ever needing to launch an invasion. Besides with the Scourge forces that would be present on Azeroth, and the Lich King as it's master mind, i believe he'd be more than able to do what the cannon defenders of azeroth are doing, putting a plug in the legion flood gate, and holding them in place. while the plague does it's work. Now poke holes 'til i cry.

  • @tylernold3427
    @tylernold34276 жыл бұрын

    Could you raise the dead members of the legion if so could the scourge match the legion in strength

  • @talonkingikisshehe9336
    @talonkingikisshehe93367 жыл бұрын

    How powerful was the Imperator Mar'gok pls!!!

  • @taavidude
    @taavidude7 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that Kel'Thuzad is still alive.

  • @Karthass
    @Karthass7 жыл бұрын

    I agree with most of what you said. But I think in a very long term the scourge could be as powerful as the Legion. I mean, the Legion was pretty disorganised before Sargeras turn into demon. And in fact if you consider that the scourge was always organised (by Nerzhul), if they had like 10 000 years to prepare for example, the scourge could be so powerful! And did any one considered to steal the soul of the demon to stop their rebirth when they die? (you know, they go back to their original world) A death knight can almost control the soul of the person (human, orc...) he does raise from death. I think that many things could be done by this army if they were researching to do this (soul control).

  • @tobiastrust4232
    @tobiastrust42327 жыл бұрын

    I have a question: can the body of fallen demons be raised by the lich king?

  • @Kristers_K

    @Kristers_K

    7 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to simple reanimation, there is no need for a soul, there have been such cases during WotLK expansion, basically a troop which is just flesh and bone, mindless and soulless. From Legion expansion we see that they can use demon bodies in creation of their abominations, an experiment, but successful regardless.

  • @pendotxl822
    @pendotxl8227 жыл бұрын

    If they get more time, they may some day reach the strenght of the burning legion

  • @rasmus6524
    @rasmus65247 жыл бұрын

    This is an awsome Loré :) gg

  • @garefieldgames4056
    @garefieldgames40567 жыл бұрын

    it was this powerfull as uthar said, "with out Arthas keeping Ner'zhul down, The scourge would have rampaged Azeroth"

  • @Lazerjo2000
    @Lazerjo20007 жыл бұрын

    I think if they found a way to raise demons or imprison demons inside their bodies, the scourge could have conquered the legion, what is dead may never die so the spirit cant leave the body

  • @thelichking9070
    @thelichking90706 жыл бұрын

    Actually it depends.if the scourge vs legion happen in azzeroth,scourge will win since Azzeroth managed to defeat the scourge and its Azzeroth

  • @AssassinEmbers
    @AssassinEmbers5 жыл бұрын

    without arthas the scourge never would've become as powerful when he was in command

  • @markmikolay9019
    @markmikolay90197 жыл бұрын

    Im suprised you left out the cult of the damned but otherwise nice video

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    I mentioned Cult of the Damned in the video.

  • @markmikolay9019

    @markmikolay9019

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doronsmovies oh right my mistake sorry

  • @abdouzaki7010
    @abdouzaki70104 жыл бұрын

    Sylvanas from 2019 says hey

  • @blowjobless4994
    @blowjobless49947 жыл бұрын

    nice,but how will the scourge fair against the recent legion invasion (if we use the former command structure)?

  • @d2b72967

    @d2b72967

    7 жыл бұрын

    Blowjobless basicly the scourge is quite weak now...

  • @blowjobless4994

    @blowjobless4994

    7 жыл бұрын

    still able to destroy azeroth,but i meant at it's prime.

  • @WOAHdatsalowprce

    @WOAHdatsalowprce

    7 жыл бұрын

    Blowjobless this is the strongest legion invasion we've seen, and they have already killed many major lore characters and converted others. The legion wins without a doubt.

  • @maxw5750

    @maxw5750

    7 жыл бұрын

    Demons are immune to the plague.

  • @blowjobless4994

    @blowjobless4994

    7 жыл бұрын

    i know that,i meant based on numbers and abilities.

  • @jako997
    @jako9977 жыл бұрын

    will we ever get an expansion where we like to to the past to fight the black empire? its sounds like it would be a amazing expansion

  • @taavidude

    @taavidude

    7 жыл бұрын

    We would stand no chance. Back in the Black Empire days the Old Gods were still incredibly powerful. It took the power of all Titans to take down one Old God so we would stand absolutley no chance against the Old Gods.

  • @jako997

    @jako997

    7 жыл бұрын

    taavidude didn't we kill a old god back in wrath of the lich king? he was last boss in uldaur if I remember right

  • @taavidude

    @taavidude

    7 жыл бұрын

    jako997 That's because his power was only a fraction of his true power. He hadn't recovered fully yet.

  • @fabriciocaxias9572
    @fabriciocaxias95727 жыл бұрын

    Demons bodys can be turned in to undead, so in a possible invasio, the world would crumble to infinite mass of demons and reanimated demon carcasses

  • @allypezz
    @allypezz7 жыл бұрын

    I think undead zombies covering only one continent of one planet is nothing compared to demons from numerous planets and full of fell magic. Undead may have been a big threat to Azeroth but they were beatable. Only way of stopping legion is to cut off all portals to Azeroth. Guess we'll see though.

  • @TheMMObro
    @TheMMObro7 жыл бұрын

    wait they confirmed the lich king is helping the dks in legion? man i just started legion and levelinf mt shadow priest firsr

  • @guldan3544
    @guldan35447 жыл бұрын

    The scourge is nothing but a Legion creation.. it will return to us.........

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    I see the Legion PR game is on point.

  • @guldan3544

    @guldan3544

    7 жыл бұрын

    Doronsmovies Yes.....

  • @pharmacist350

    @pharmacist350

    7 жыл бұрын

    GUL'DAN!

  • @5frodon

    @5frodon

    7 жыл бұрын

    o shit

  • @pharmacist350

    @pharmacist350

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gul'dan is our only weapon , that can summon portion of MY army to the Azeroth...

  • @Tigo625
    @Tigo6257 жыл бұрын

    Doron, do you think that the Scourge would have become more powerful than the legion if the LK's plan worked and he conquered all of Azeroth?

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    If he had the entire world no, because the Legion controls many planets. Maybe after a while though if the scourge started invading they would in a way catch up to the Legion.

  • @bobbybiggerstaff7269

    @bobbybiggerstaff7269

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, un-dead demons!

  • @victuz

    @victuz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbybiggerstaff7269 Bizarre, isn't it?

  • @klapacjuszanimomon8501
    @klapacjuszanimomon85015 жыл бұрын

    Now who most powerful... The scourge vs legion

  • @CounterTheAnimatorocn1
    @CounterTheAnimatorocn17 жыл бұрын

    Just remember, whenever you fight The Lich King, you die in that battle. No matter if you one shot him, you die in the end. You only win because Tirion wakes up.

  • @CounterTheAnimatorocn1

    @CounterTheAnimatorocn1

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** Not that kind of dying. But when he's at 20% HP and casts a debuff, right before Tirion shatters Frostmourne.

  • @fluffytuffy9142
    @fluffytuffy91425 жыл бұрын

    No mention of the fall of quel’thalas? 0kay.......

  • @Tarentula12
    @Tarentula127 жыл бұрын

    Arthas story is quite similar with Kerrigan's don't you think?

  • @hweaponsguy8800

    @hweaponsguy8800

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tarentula12 i don't think so

  • @gamurarandrei2657
    @gamurarandrei26577 жыл бұрын

    wait, Lich king is helping legion in the new expansion?

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not the Legion but the death knights fighting the Legion.

  • @medievalist8441
    @medievalist84416 жыл бұрын

    how powerful is the alliance or horde

  • @christianweibrecht6555
    @christianweibrecht65557 жыл бұрын

    Doronmovie ,you gave to much credit to arthas, nerzhul merged with him instead of being replaced according to the shadow-mourne quest chain arthas was only influential enough to limit nerzhul's power

  • @gandharzero
    @gandharzero7 жыл бұрын

    How powerful is Gamon?

  • @cynicalnitro8416
    @cynicalnitro84166 жыл бұрын

    Man... Arthas had the best nap... Or maybe he's cranky and that's why he woke up and started fuckin shit up. Still... Dude slept for years. If he DID ever marry Jaina, after that transformation, he'd be talented as fuck at not hearing her crap.

  • @TheBoxingCannabyte
    @TheBoxingCannabyte7 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to think my Deathlord Dwarf is as powerful or more powerful (with his artifact weap) than even Thrall, hand of the new Lich King who seems more powerful than ever. I'd also reckon the Knights of Ebon Hold, should they ever utilize the scourge as a last-ditch effort to figth the legion, could at the very least gain an army that could hold the line, every dead demon could be a potential scourge, every fallen hero from various periods in time (so hundreds of thousands of corpses if not millions) can be risen as a death knight. I'm a bit biased though ;)

  • @WOAHdatsalowprce

    @WOAHdatsalowprce

    7 жыл бұрын

    Joe Cannabyte yeah no. Sorry, your dk dwarf isn't as strong as thrall. Our characters even with their artifact weapons can't even take down someone like garrosh hellscream in his normal state.

  • @stefanzaric2111

    @stefanzaric2111

    7 жыл бұрын

    Why would you think that?

  • @dan7564

    @dan7564

    7 жыл бұрын

    I kill the Lich king every week for his mount :p But I think we kinda are. We are the fighting power of the lich king whilst Bolvar and his helm of domination are the will of the scourge. We're Bolvars Hammer.

  • @mezmerizer9422
    @mezmerizer94227 жыл бұрын

    helm of domination of damnation?

  • @Doronsmovies

    @Doronsmovies

    7 жыл бұрын

    Helm of domination is the correct way to say it. Although I guess both could apply. Domination as in dominating minds of the undead legions and damnation as in damning the person who takes it.

  • @kakarottuzumaki4346
    @kakarottuzumaki43466 ай бұрын

    4:02 Min.: I say it so: That Malganis is a servant of sageras was wronge and we found out the real true about the real loyality of the scourge and the lichking later on. He shell prepar the world. But NOT for the burning legion... XD He shell perpar it for the death to claim it. For the jailor. Source? Play the story of shadowlands :P

  • @kakarottuzumaki4346

    @kakarottuzumaki4346

    6 ай бұрын

    5:38 Min.: Mmmmh ask your self why the zitadelle is shaped like this and why is under this a thing the named: SOUL FORGDE... I mean how obvuisly can you make it blizzard... And we still all dont saw it coming ^^

  • @andrewflynn6883
    @andrewflynn68834 жыл бұрын

    FULL SCALE VORE

  • @thou_shalt_kill1355
    @thou_shalt_kill13554 жыл бұрын

    Arthas is just a pawn

  • @JG_Parker
    @JG_Parker6 жыл бұрын

    Undead Bloodelves need to be new characters

  • @user-wz5df3tu4x
    @user-wz5df3tu4x7 жыл бұрын

    Legion is greatest enemy we are faceing but other than that what do you think wo is just under them? Not what they were when thes were at the top put when we faced them. For example Lei Shen was much more powerfull in his prime compared to when he was brought back so he wasn't that big of a threat when we faced him.

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