“Do you want, do you want? I WANT THAT CAKE!” (Continue down for QnA)… Q1. Why did you scale #21 to the anime when you didn’t give the same courtesy to the movie villains? A. I’m well aware that it seems hypocritical to give #21 a pass and not the villains. However, with my recent vids like Janemba, Slug, and Hirudegarn, I still give viewers my thoughts as to how they could stack up to the DBZ anime. As such, since my video would have been so bare-bone if it was game only, it would undermine #21’s narrative. Plus, unlike the movies constantly confirmed to be in different dimensions from the anime, while FighterZ is more blatant about referencing anime-exclusive moments, I thought it’d be a waste of time to break down more unnecessary canon info just to talk about #21. Plus, I know people will have issues if I imply Android 21 is not even planet level cuz “gameplay tho” XD Honestly, the definition of “canon” regarding the Dragon Ball Franchise is a mess, so come up with your opinions. Especially when I didn’t scale her to the movie or manga continuities. Likewise, given how FighterZ somewhat ignore certain plotpoints that were filler originals, I also didn't want to claim any and every filler is not-canon. Since if we're being technical, the entire anime is "filler" because not every single frame came from the manga. Hence why for the sake of simplicity, I used the "original storyline" by Toriyama and had I relied more on the anime, my conclusions would further be justified. Hope that breaks down my overall perspective on her scaling. TL:DR, Logic is for losers, "everything is canon", therefore, #21 is built different. :\ Q2. Why did you scale Compare #21 to Goku Black? A. As a way to further emphasize my point that Android 21 CAN scale to DBS, I thought briefly comparing #21’s abilities to Black would show that can be the case. Considering Android 21 and Black’s arc follows the U6 tournament arc, I thought it’d be a neat thought experiment as to which villain is stronger. Otherwise, her not being stronger than Black doesn’t change my evaluation when solely focusing on FighterZ. Also, due to the nature of "potential" in the franchise, any character when given a chance, can become the strongest. I myself didn't want to argue #21 must be stronger cuz "potential tho" since even Cell Max has MORE Data than #21 and therefore MORE potential than anyone, yet still lost. if Goku Black saw more of Goku's progression since his arc, he too would be stronger. As such, I didn't wanted to really harp on who would win, just comparing how both enemies being relative in timeline to Super weirdly correlates to the writers of Toei and Shueisha intentions towards the series at the time. Possibly even somewhat inspiring the creation of DBS: Super Hero. TL:DR, both are strong, therefore, the fight is not one-sided. lol Q3. Why did you include the whole SSBlue form multiplier for her scaling? A. It was a way to introduce my takes regarding Super Scaling and the blue form multipliers. It was also my way to further upscale Android 21 to higher levels. Like I said in the video, you do not have to agree with my interpretation but I like to think that given how Toriyama and the franchise clearly show the Saiyan’s mastery of the forms not have a fixed multiplier. Though, you can have at it in the comment section if you think I’m wrong. XD Q4. Why did you include #21’s bizarre appearances when it does little to her scaling? A.I just had too. XD I couldn’t help laugh at how ridiculous the Heroes mission was and the fact it IS in a weird way official to the franchise….so….take such information however you wish. Q5. Whats you’re deal with the Outlier scaling for #21? A.As I said for previous videos, anything can be outer…therefore, nobody can be outer. People love to OVER-interpret definitions and statements. Dragon ball has A LOT of vague dimensional cosmology that could give characters broken scaling. I personally don’t agree with those outerversal interpretations so don’t think that such sources are validating those claims or that I’m intentionally doing it to hype up #21. It’s mostly me recognizing the small percentage of fans that love to overhype DBZ in general and my sarcastic way to add some comedy in my vids. Btw…no, releasing this vid on Valentines day is TOTALLY not intentional….Touch Grass Boys. XD

@Aeosynum

5 ай бұрын

Happy valentines day

@sunnyd4038

5 ай бұрын

Dude. Stop uploading already. DAMN.

Bros stalling for that broly vid lmao

@wukongisas9564

5 ай бұрын

Broly has so many statements and stuff i don't blame him 😂 might be worst than janemba

@mugenuchiha5335

5 ай бұрын

He was thinking about doing this before he tries to scale Broly which I can assume is probably very big and will take over 2 hours to finish because Broly has such a huge ass scaling that I can't blame him, and what makes this even crazier is that this guy has been hyping up Broly multiple times in his videos.

@M3rtyville

Ай бұрын

Broly has like billions of appearances and forms...

These Metal Gear Rising remixes at the start never get old, they're too inspirational

Finally

@HeWhoIsCursed

2 ай бұрын

Top Android 17 slaps bro I can help with scaling mangas

22:13 damn what my boi do to you lolll 😂

@MegaMachiOnline

5 ай бұрын

The Tokipedia is more than enough

@Aeosynum

5 ай бұрын

@@MegaMachiOnline I mean he's still ok wym??

@MegaMachiOnline

5 ай бұрын

@@Aeosynum he created the Tokipedia that Numbers has to regularly dive into for many xenoverse mentors to read their lines and stuff so I wouldn’t be surprised if he hated him for the massive time anomalies

@justanautomaton

5 ай бұрын

He was born!

Great Video!

More peak content, keep it up!

Excellent vid. I figured it was gonna be 21. Never played through the story of FighterZ so it was pretty informative all together

Goku facing Arale puts her on the outerversal levels of power, and immeasurable levels of speed, her feats in her manga are surprising, and the ghost Beers erased, makes the hakai far more dangerous than simply erasing your existence, same with Zamasu’s immortality, but that could be because of the super dragon balls.

14:41 The Flight laugh 🤣

Idk about stronger than Black but she's definetly in a ballpark above BOG-ROF saga characters

I’d love to see a scaling video for Mira and Towa, they’re in Kakarot, so that’s pretty cool.

8:15 you should do some more anime DBZ scaling... and compare it to manga or other anime versions of DBZ, its a very interesting topic. I never heard that Frieza was solar system level in the anime.

2:36 I'm guessing Super must follow, either, the manga or the Kai anime rather than the Z anime.

Not many people know this soul link is player controlling the characters. In a way it is 4th wall breaking.

Can ya do how powerful is zangya, how powerful is android 16 and how powerful is fu

Maybe carmine and co grab some cells (can’t spoil why I think so ) and create her

Could you do one on how dangerous would a 21 that was based on OG73 be? So she would have all of the data on the characters OG73 copied and what Gero’s computer had, maybe she could even use the cell/21 bots to give her more data to add to herself. No hunger, no going crazy, and like Cell she could freely use the powers, and abilities of the beings she's based on.

But but but, big green haired guy

Why not do a video on how powerful Toeiverse Goku is? from Anime DB to GT? (also counting filler and some of the movies)

Its also worthy mentioning, the xenoverse 2 cell max was strongger them the original

Do that bardock video i talked about?

Can you do how powerful is android 18

One thing that bothers me, isn't the Spirit Bomb supposed to have a built in harmless function against non-villain characters? Like how Gohan could reflect it back then, so why did good 21 die along with the bad one?

@Numbers2133

4 ай бұрын

Being pure-hearted does not make you immune to the spirit-bomb. It just means you can influence or manipulate/interact with it. For example, just because i'm a superhero who is immune to radiation, does not mean by association, i can automatically survive a nuclear bomb. So likewise, just cuz Goku who is pure-hearted can interact with his own attack, means he won't get injured by it. Thats why for the Kid Buu Climax, everyone was afraid Goku may die if Buu pushes back his attack. Likewise, he nearly died to his own attack after Jiren and Goku put so much pressure into a single point. For android 21's case, she may be "good" but either way, the spirit bomb will still do damage.

@death4314

3 ай бұрын

Actually the fact she has majin in her which is evil itself is prob why it nuked her

i need her in sparking zero

Think about about it Frieza spend 4 years to become golden and 10 years to become "Black Cell would achieve these forms shorter time thanks to mixed cells he has And Android 21 is basically improved version of Cell with Majin Cells, she has the potential enough to become an unstoppable force Lock her up to Hyperbolic time chamber for 3 days and she'll be one of biggest thread to Time Patrollers (She would be a good xeno warrior counters Towa) **if she didnt have Urge-hunger nonesense

@ladaal8867

3 ай бұрын

Yeah she’d fucking hate the time chamber cus no one to eat 😭

So is it actually stated fully 100% entirely that Goku and Vegeta are ACTUALLY using DBS SSJB levels in the finale? Sure there's the easter egg of the two using Blue once maxing it out. But even in the final cutscene when "Everybody has all their powers!" Goku and Vegeta are STILL using SSJ. It's sorta clear they didn't include a lot of DBS stuff here. Since every single time a character "Gets all their powers" they never use a DBS form (Goku and Vegeta never using Blue, Frieza not using Golden, And Cell - Frieza - Goku all being clearly "around the same" in the villain ending.)

@ladaal8867

3 ай бұрын

I believe that was more of a modeling thing. They explicitly state that they are using their full power, ssjb and golden form both being apart of their kits to this point. Them still being in ssj1 is confusing but not anything to be concerned about. As stated, we see them unlock ssjb when maxed bonded

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“Toeiverse” is so annoying, I don’t know where that idea even came from. Some bs.

Orange Piccolo is ssjb level

I ain't even know DBFZ had a whole story mode.

@xxxmysticronx

3 ай бұрын

It's the only way to unlock a21 in the game the story mode is alright not to crazy.

Heyo, Numbs.

Android 21 :D

the weakest android? bro she literally beats full power cell who is the combined power of thousands of earthlings AND the entire z team AND both 17 and 18..... the fact she matched him at all proves she is the strongest android ever made outside of androids from the super hero movie ALONE

21 should be in my opinion if u let her cook the roaster she should be able to get to broly or moro lvl but thats if u let her cook everyone 21 with hit speed hax and goku power is a death sentence

Pretty sure with this logic, which I’m not disagreeing with, she’d cook fused zamasu 😭 Goku ssjb 20x overpowered fused zamasu and it seems him + the entire cast can’t even beat 21 without using a spirit bomb and sacrifice. Especially since 17, vegeta, and good 21 are all around goku’s level. I’m not sure fused zamasu would’ve been able to so easily handle what is essentially 4 gokus when he can be overpowered by just one, especially considering she stopped the spirit bomb which is magnitudes higher than goku’s normal power

Mommy 21 solos

She beats black i think 21 is either at that highbll-outlier level!!!

21 could pull ahead off goku black. As long as she doesn't screw around.

Why are you complicating the time line of the game so much? It's pretty obvious it uses the original manga and the super anime, furthermore the game is set after the goku black saga it just makes sense even though the arc was still airing when the game came out

@jschannel6319

3 ай бұрын

No it wasn’t? FighterZ came out on January 26, 2018. The DBS Anime ended in March 2018. And the Black arc ended on episode 67, which came out in November of 2016, or episode 76 which came out in January of 2017

@kauanjos3199

3 ай бұрын

@@jschannel6319 Huh didn't remember that, so it's even more evidence that the game takes place after the Goku black arc

@leapardbone

3 ай бұрын

Okay but like aside from his inclusion on the base roster and the time the game came out and the first trailer drop, there is no indication this game came out after the Goku black Arc. You'd think it'd be very important to name-drop powerful characters like Goku black, zamasu, vegito, and fused zamasu

@kauanjos3199

3 ай бұрын

@@leapardbone it's not like you need to, the game released post Goku black arc, so it's post Goku black arc it just fits. Besides Vegeta blue uses moves from the Goku black arc

@leapardbone

3 ай бұрын

@@kauanjos3199 no, you have to have some statement/s that insinuate the point of time a story takes place, otherwise people have to make assumptions based on what we see and hear. Just having a character with a moveset from based on the recent arc isn't evidence, just correlation. For instance, they make reference that Goku and Vegeta has blue and Frieza has gold but In story never use it, making it clear that this takes place after the resurrection of F arc. As simple mention of "she's even stronger than the zamasu fusion " would suffice. Edit: if the story of fighterz absolutely without question does take place a little after the Goku black Arc than it's even more strange to no mention it.

Fu is a fanfic selfinsert... like almost every modern Dragon Ball character like the universe 6 saiyans and Cumber... this is so cringe. At least we got Hearts.