I've had my issues with Penn Jilette, but I always appreciated P&T's fundamental philosophy that knowing how something is done makes it better, not worse. That attitude has done more to expand horizons and democratize great art than Magic Circle ever could.

@tyrongkojy

5 жыл бұрын

Ironically they seem to have no idea how income tax works, or worse yet, spread false information on it. I'm never going to get over that idiot pie segment.......

@help4343

5 жыл бұрын

@@tyrongkojy Pie Segment?

@tyrongkojy

5 жыл бұрын

From the income tax episode of Bullshit.

@tyrongkojy

2 жыл бұрын

@V. S. Werejester Very much so.

"Do you ever have one of those pieces of media that hits you at a formative age and is buried somewhere in the recesses of your mind, yet because of its obscurity, it remains so personal that you're half convinced you dreamt it?" Well yeah. I was nine and it was called Brows Held High by this guy named Oancitizen.

@adevice

5 жыл бұрын

I'm obviously not done watching this, but do know, you got a response. An angry response yelling about why these otherwise intelligent, thoughtful people are libertarians. These people meant so much to me that their values not aligning with mine had been unexpectedly hurtful, personally, like nobody ever has before. I'm sure because the others I idolized before are dead before they're tainted. Maybe like you.

@sirrliv

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I remember that series! That's what introduced me to the strange, bizarre, and sometimes wonderful world of arthouse cinema.

@robiu013

5 жыл бұрын

pfff, suck-up

@mlovecraftr

5 жыл бұрын

+

@FowlFolk

5 жыл бұрын

And that New Year's Eve, Kyle aged a hundred years in a day...

It’s like Defunctland’s concept of defunct parks and TV shows investigate the thing and talk about the thing, thus furthering it’s existence beyond being just a memory among the few

Yes, I absolutely remember watching this series as a kid. I am an art teacher now and I have the series on DVD. I still show it to my middle school students....they enjoy watching... it keeps their attention and helps them understand art concepts we use in art class. Thanks for highlighting this series again.

Those last 15 seconds left me with an undescribable feeling. That was intense for a shot of a childhood artifact crumbling, Kyle.

Penn Jillette's voice is cued to my earwith the phrase "YOU'RE WATCHING COMEDY CENTRAL." In my mind, Penn Jillette always speaks in all caps.

@amonickerofprofoundpretention

5 жыл бұрын

That's Death's job though.

@chazzwozzio

5 жыл бұрын

Like BRIAN BLESSED and Lewis Black

@crimsondynamo615

5 жыл бұрын

Makes me think of Doctor Klein

I hope that 2019 is good to you, Kyle. You sound fragile and raw, like someone’s been ripping you apart. Please take a break if you need it. My media experience was Between the Lions. It was the thing that got me into reading, that and Reading Rainbow.

@SoleMan117

5 жыл бұрын

I liked between the lions! And that's why he's called Cliff Hanger! (I don't think that's very obscure, though...)

@davidshi451

5 жыл бұрын

Defunctland TV just did an episode about Between the Lions!

@sirrliv

5 жыл бұрын

A bit late in replying, but I couldn't have put it better myself. Of course I'm always glad to see a new Brows Held High pop up on my feed, but I cannot deny that there's something about Kyle's delivery in his most recent videos that on an almost subconscious level has me in tears. I don't know what's going on in his personal life, nor is it our right to know, but every video has me wanting to fly to New York just so I can give him a big platonic hug and tell him "Everything's gonna be okay." Kyle, if you're out there and you read the replies to other peoples' comments, it's okay. If you need to take a step back, we'll be here for you. Or if you feel it's time for this wild ride to come to an end, we'll always have the memories. And yeah, Between The Lions and Reading Rainbow were awesome.

I remember it. Not well, and not by name, but yes, I do remember seeing a few of these short educational bits that they did. A bit where they described the difference between symmetric and asymmetric balance in particular stands out in my mind. I grew up watching PBS and all it's child-targeted content, almost all of which was educational in some form or another, and I credit it collectively with fostering intellectual curiosity that is responsible for me devouring content like sociology and economic analysis, extensive wiki-walking, and yes, video essays. I guess I never thought about it's long term impact on me. So, thanks for that, my brain has something to chew on.

1:34 A grant from the National Endowment for the Arts... and viewers like you.

@lordrefaiv

5 жыл бұрын

It hurt my brain that he didn't say "and viewers like you".

@PrinceAppalling

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@dylanb.8459

4 жыл бұрын

"the viewers like you" are the libertarians who support them

It's too bad you can't get your beatles video to stick on youtube. A ton of work went into it, and it's surely one of your very best works.

@meinerHeld

5 жыл бұрын

hmm, any way to see this?

@beflygelt

5 жыл бұрын

wow yeah I want to see this!!

I have used these visual art videos in my 6th grade art classroom for 20 years!!! The students loved them and they emphasized concepts that I was teaching in such fun and literal ways. I think they are hilarious, but my brain is that of an 11 year old as I have spent so time with my students!!!!

Understanding Art is Understanding Thinking. A challange and a blessing to us all.

This has reminded me of small snippets of TV shows and movies I saw as a child that now, some 25+ years later, feel more like dreams. I don't think I'll ever find them and, in a way, that mystery of not knowing what they are now (with my current perspective and experiences) adds a magical air to the medium.

This show is great and one of their top projects. I hope it gets a re-release one day.

I remember this series, especially the chair guy

i know this comment is 4 years too late, but I can't believe i found this video. The visual art trilogy of this series was a huge part of my childhood, and to this day the only bit of Penn and Teller media I've ever seen. My grandparents bought the DVD three pack for me and i watched it over and over for years. i learned so much and practiced everything the artists showed. and the songs are so engrained in my head. a truly magical and surreal experience, and i felt like the only person in the world that had scene it, but i made sure i wasn't the last. a couple years ago when i was a HS art teacher i had my Grandma mail me the DVDs and I played them for my class. they didn't really get it, but i was happy to share. anyway point is I'm glad i wasn't the only one this series affected and that you're sharing it with others now too.

In a way, what you did in finding this old show was what I did as I was remembering back to content creators that meant a lot to me and finding you, still producing content that's better than ever on KZread. Thanks for being a lot less brittle and easier to find again than that DVD.

I totally remember this series as a child! And I purchased the DVDs also. I am an art teacher now and I show them to my middle school students! Glad to know I am not the only one who remembers! Thanks for making this clip!

Hey Kyle, this might be a bit of a cliche to say but: thanks for the work you do. The videos you create introduces me to new ideas and new concepts and new perspectives, and I am a richer person for having seen them. The things that you do have value. Happy new year. Life to not-fascism.

in my at history class in elementary school our class used to watch the series 3 times a year. i have very distinct memories of all of it as well.

I loved this, (though i disagree with one statement, you have a lovely voice, not a dumb one) sometimes something just hits your brain like an arrow when you are a kid and influences you in such a big way. I remember watching the film "tank girl" as a kid, not a critically loved film, audiences didn't get it, fans of the comic hated it. but i remember thinking "this movie was made for ME" not in a selfish way, but like, in a way that it was made for me, as a weirdo art girl to understand and relate to, it was a movie i didn't know could exist. a movie that reached me! and it definitely influenced me as a creator. sometimes something that seems insignificant can become a total treasure. and it's worth remembering and preserving treasures always.

@TheHopperUK

5 жыл бұрын

I know that feel! I watched an animated scifi film from France called 'Masters of Time' in English. Les Maitres du Temp?? I don't speak French:D But boy, I saw it one time at 8 or so and it lodged in my brain like a tick.

@jaegermonster7520

5 жыл бұрын

Oh jeez I loved "Tank Girl" for the same reason! I was maybe ten, and my brother rented it. And when it was done I turned to him and asked if we could watch it again. I seriously love that movie, even if it doesn't hold up now to what I remember when I was ten... but then, what does?

@L1701

5 жыл бұрын

You might be thinking of the 1982 Franco-Hungarian animated film "Time Masters". The Cartoon Clipshow did an episode about it.

@TheHopperUK

5 жыл бұрын

That's almost certainly the one! Thanks!

I remember them showing us this in art class when I was in elementary school. In particular, I remember the illusions bit you have here, where they're at this desk and Teller keeps trying to pour himself juice or throw a ball up, but because they're actually at an angle, it all keeps going to Penn.

It's 3 in the morning, and I randomly got the urge to try and search for even the smallest bit of content that I could find for things that I watched when I was little that had resonating moments with me. I remembered only so much from these episodes, and it had been so long since I heard any of the songs from this series, that my mind kind of put logical chords together where they fit as I would hum them. Finding this video was cathartic for me. The last time I watched any of these episodes was in elementary school when I was around 7 or 8, I'm 22 now. Thank you for taking the time out to make such a neat video, lots of good memories here(=

In my younger days, honest younger then I expected once I remembered, there was this show that was on PBS that involved a robot being ordered to be crushed into a cube and a man spitting out what looked to me to be a foam chip that some zombie lady had forcefully kissed into his mouth and for years... YEARS it stuck in my head because it was lit weird and it was late night on weekends and eventually disappeared from broadcast and I was, in an age before ready access to the internet, baffles and fascinated what the series was. And years later, my cousin showed me a DVD of British sci-fi comedy that he said was like Doctor Who (the old ones) which I was vaguely familiar with and liked and suddenly there it was: Red Dwarf this special midnight show I barely remembered like a dream from PBS back when I was still single digits old on DVD and I was watching all of it and then the next and the next until took 2 years to buy all the seasons and I had them. This strange Grungy comedy show that looked like nothing I’d ever seen before was in my hands and I watched and I wanted more. I wanted more and found other British tv series and comedians and this whole other world and sphere and place in the world opened up to this kid who lived most of his life in rural Indiana with no internet had another part of the world he had only seen in waking dream memory opened up to him. So yeah, PBS. Thanks for existing.

@catsnjammer

2 жыл бұрын

Kryten being crushed into a cube (“I’m almost annoyed!”) is from the same episode of Red Dwarf as my earliest TV memory. It’s Psirens in Series 6, and my memory is of the conversation they have about a man who writes a warning message in his own entrails. “What I don’t understand is why he went to the trouble of using a kidney as a full stop.” “I don’t think he meant to. I think it just… plopped out.” That was on original broadcast in the UK, in 1993, and I was five years old. It took me until I was in my late teens to find the episode that burnt itself onto my brain in my formative years, when the first eight seasons were repeated late at night on BBC2. I stayed up to watch it with my dad. ❤️

This video made me think a lot about that short Beatles video you did years ago. It was one of the best introductions to poetry I could have ever had, and wish I could show to more people. When blip still existed, I would show this to teachers and they started incorporating it into their classes. I plan to do so in my own classes one day. I feel like I grew up so much watching your videos over the years.

Hope you scanned that dvd case slip before crushing it

I discovered BEHIND THE SCENES after it was on the air by means of purchasing the same DVD set you destroyed. When I was a brand new art teacher (c.1997) I bought it while searching for and selecting stuff to furnish my newly built high school art room. Turns out, I love this show, probably more than my students, and particularly the first 3 episodes in the set. In fact, I'm playing episode #3 today for each of my five classes of students (just passively, as most of them are busy staring at their own screens). That's what led me to look up this post of yours. Thanks for sharing! I know that bits and pieces of it will stick with some of the kids who watch and listen. Favorite episode? #2 - LINE

Thank you for bringing this back to me. This show was a staple of my childhood, and it felt like I was the only person to remember it. Thank you for a reminder of a better time in my life.

I very faintly remember watching this series in my elementary school art class but that color song just hit me like a dump truck with memories.

I still show these to my art classes!

We would watch these all the time in my elementary school art class. My thoughts about it for a long time were basically "that can't possibly have been Penn and Teller talking about a guy drawing a 'walk around a chair,' somebody else would know that existed and it would be on the internet, right?"

I remember it! and still show it to my middle school art students!

We used the visual art series in the public school where I taught art until retirement- the first set I had was taped for VCR at home and eventually we got it on dvd's for our department. Students loved it and the presentation of concepts like perspective and line were sooo visually hands-on. III was just now thinking of this series because an exhibit of (now-deceased) Wayne Theibaud is opening this weekend at a near- by museum of art. Students loved watching him talk his way through drawing an ice cream cone in the episode in which he was the thread from the beginning to end.

I had a vague recollection when you started this video, but the song segment about painting the ocean is when I realized I had watched these as a kid. Thanks for the reminder.

Man, I thought I knew everything Penn & Teller did, but I don't remember this at all, definitely want to look it up now. Glad you brought it to our attention. I've actually been trying to find some old "Square One" sketches myself lately that I thought were long forgotten except for me, so I totally relate to this.

I vaguely remember watching this as a kid. It was charming at the time for what it was: a silly little show introducing children to the concept of art. KZread has turned into a place we artifact our history or our reaction to it, so this is the place where a video like this belongs. A huge collection of society's thoughts and feelings about our past, displayed out for anyone to see (for better or worse).

I'm afraid I can't say I remembered this show from when I was younger, even though I would've been the right age and I loved PBS; but I will always remember it now, thanks to you.

Soviet animated fairy tales from the sixties, they ended up on public Venezuelan TV back in the nineties. My favorites were The Frog Princess and Thumbelina. All of those films are gorgeous and delicately drawn...they're free on KZread if anyone wants to check them out.

I watched them and always remember the episode with David Hockney. It took forever to find a copy to show my students it as a demonstration of abstraction. I love the series, and wish they had a digital version.

I never saw this when it aired, but these clips forced me to remember when my music teacher showed the class a clip from it. Penn and Teller were demonstrating long and short sound waves by painting yellow lines on a city street. I don’t remember much else about the class but i remember watching penn and teller; mostly because i was the only one in class who even knew who they were at the time.

I had a few of these videos that I used to show my class when I was a student teacher. I loved these and they were fun to show a class.

This is the way I feel about the Ripley's Believe It or Not! television series. My family had a DVD of the best episodes and I remember watching it over and over again as a kid. I wouldn't be surprised if its half the reason I have such strange interests and have a fairly strong stomach in terms of gross and morbid stuff. That show absolutely fascinated me as a child and it holds a very dear place in my heart. A few years ago we went to the Ripley's museum in California and it awakened the weird fascination that held me as a child.

I do as well remember this show. I do have some episodes still floating around my house on old VHS tapes. I actually loved it.

I actually remember seeing a handful of episodes of this series on DVDs available at my local library! I had no idea they covered so many topics! Really such an underrated series! Should be the basic starting point of any artist's education!

I had never even heard of this show, but it's totally something I would've loved as a kid.

"Do you ever have one of those pieces of media that hits you at a formative age and is buried somewhere in the recesses of your mind, yet because of its obscurity, it remains so personal that you're half convinced you dreamt it?" That's EVERY SINGLE TV SHOW I grew up on, because I'm Norwegian and everybody online just talks about US and UK TV shows

Thank you for making this. I do remember watching this with my father as a kid. I thought it was so cool. I actually remembered this out of the blue and looked up Penn and Teller art documentary and this video showed up. Thank you for sharing this.

I loved this show and found your video to show my kid. I recently ordered dvd's of it so I can share it with my children.

Jeez o peetz I LOVED this show as a kid!! I was so thirsty for art knowledge and there was just so little of it aimed at kids back then. The music episode is the only one I got to see since my local PBS was sporadic in scheduling. I had no idea it was Penn and Teller doing the hosting. Man, thank you for bringing it back to memory. You're not alone.

Thank you for making me re-remember this. Yes! I used to see this, amongst 90s era Sesame Street, and Reading Rainbow! I remember the colors episode, and flat vs deep, and the thing with the hamsters and the frogs (variation in song), AND The Tempest!

This show sounds absolutely charming, I would love to own this on DVD.

Thank you for this video. I was beginning to think I was the only one who remembered these videos. These were my introduction to Penn and Teller. My art teacher in school used to show these videos. I've been looking for mention of them somewhere. Haven't found any until now. I even watched a Penn and Teller documentary, with no mention of them.

Thanks for sharing that. Being both older & Anglo-Canadian - never saw it - but being a fan of P&T and this channel - I wish I had & will try and get for my kids!

I remember it! Thanks for posting this, I was discussing it with someone who was not familiar and was able to find this, first hit, to give them a crash course on when penn and teller did an educational video about art. :)

I remember this show growing up, but I had no idea what it was called! Thanks for giving me a title to one of my favorite shows.

Kyle, by God you are incredible at bringing in just the right WHAM line at the end of such great analyses and retrospectives. This one and the one about Nostalgia really hit me in that regard. Really, what else is there to say? Phenomenal work as always - take care ❤

There's so much I stumble upon now that I thought was a half remembered dream or some malformed memory and then I find it was a completely real thing.

I remember these videos, My middle school art teacher would show them Every once in a while

gah. Penn and Teller are super complicated for me, 'cause they're REALLY enjoyable showmen, fantastic magicians, great deconstructors of certain topics that needed deconstructing at the time...and also EXTREME libertarians. Also, they are massive supporters of Desert Bus for Hope. Also also, they're HUGE libertarians. Complicated for me, like I said. I used to watch every episode of Bullshit I could get my hands on. Now, I go back and maybe like...two of those episodes are still as good as they were at the time i watched them? Weird and complicated, and this elegant and finely-crafted video, at the end of a shitty, shitty year, has made me think about what I used to like, why I used to like it, and at some point, just...get over any sense of dread I had about what I used to like in the past. Or even any vestigial enjoyment I might get from it. Thanks, Kyle. Neat video.

@BrianKScott

5 жыл бұрын

They always said that if showtime let them, they'd make "The Bullshit of Bullshit", a corrections episode.

@Biczeschlappe

5 жыл бұрын

There are worse things to be than libertarians, and for what it's worth, they seem at least like genuine libertarians, not just weed-republicans.

@zacharybutler5944

5 жыл бұрын

@@Biczeschlappe they are, with all that entails: saying sweatshops are actually good places to work, saying that emergency services should be privatized, and opposing any sort of environmental regulation because it might hinder business.

@user-tg9hk6wc6q

5 жыл бұрын

From what I've scene of Penn he's pretty moderate in his views or at least now.

@danstiver9135

5 жыл бұрын

KZread also takes a toll on a LOT of content creators, probably the majority of them. It seems like it’s gotten worse over the past 5 years, I’ve seen more and more KZreadrs come forth with having depression and anxiety exacerbated by KZread.

Favorite day of art class was watching their videos on line and perspective :)

Happy New Year, Kyle. Thanks for being you and doing what you do.

My music class showed me both the rhythm and music episodes when I was in grade school, for what little it's worth.

Kyle keep up the amazing work. I always enjoy a look into your past, thoughts, and ideas.

I had forgotten about this, too. I think I remembered my first encounter with Penn and Teller was on PBS, but I had forgotten what it was. Shows that I think of in that nostalgic way are 3-2-1 Contact and Faerie Tale Theatre.

Thank you for sharing this, Kyle! I'm a long time fan of P&T (since roughly 1989? when they did a New Year's Eve special and an early performance of the Blast Off bit), and I thought I had watched everything they'd done, including their film and their couple of BBC series. I've never seen Behind the Scenes, and it was nice to see some bits and bobs. You're always doing good work, and I've missed your regularity recently. I understand we all have lives, and things happen. But count me among the many that look forward to every video you make for us.

Great video as always, and I really hope you know how much your work means to people. You are appreciated, and I hope you know that you are bringing good things to light in a world that is so often cruel.

I know this feeling very well, though I'm sorry to say not for this particular show. I've managed to find a few badly made DVD copies of old movies and shows I watched as a child, but many are lost to time and licensing issues. Even an old TV show from my teen years is forever lost in a way: I can get a copy of Daria, but it will never be the one I watched in its initial run. Any copy existing today has an entirely different soundtrack, most songs of which no longer match the animation.

@dylanb.8459

5 жыл бұрын

luckly you can find rips online of Daria from VHS recordings that still has the original music, but your point is well made. So much about that shows original run was about the music they used to punctuate a situation.

Funny enough, when I took a Theatre class in community college a few months ago, the Tempest episode of this miniseries was shown to the class by our professor(who also did theatre and TV acting on the side) to help us understand theatre design and directing. I agree, from what I viewed from that episode, that it was basic but charming and educational.

I actually remember seeing the segment on music in elementary school. I had considered trying to track down that clip, but had no idea where to start. Thanks!

I watched so much PBS as a kid and somehow missed this. This is a lovely video Kyle, and to answer your opening question: yes, it's a movie called the peanut butter solution and it is complete nightmare fuel. I literally thought it was an actual dream until I saw stills of it in a list and finally had a name to put to the nightmare.

I saw that episode on theater while in grad school for an M.A.T. in Theater. It's a great primer for teaching about theater.

Oh my gosh! Not only do I remember being shown this in my music class, I have been wondering what the heck the program was! Thank you for showing this to me and letting me know/reminding me about it! As always I love your work and you do a great job presenting your points and ideas! Keep up the good work man and thank you for all you do.

I have remembered that long line segment ever since I saw it in an art class back in...1999 I'm guessing. It stuck with me forever and even though it's not as impressive to go and revisit in my adulthood, it's satisfying to finally be able to remember where it was from seeing as this is so rare. So thanks Kyle, this brings me some comfort.

In (i wanna say) elementary school, a teacher (i wanna say for art class) played an episode of this and you played the only thing i remember from that episode at 1:13.

I remember watching a few episodes of this in an elementary school art class I had. You're definitely not alone on this Kyle.

Wow, thank you Kyle! I totally watched a few of these episodes in school, I specifically remember the ones about color and drawing. I totally forgot all about it. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Damn, that concept of using magic tricks to explain the show’s concepts is genuinely brilliant. Explaining a form of art by using a different form of art.

Thanks for posting this! I purchased the dvd's a few years ago and show them to my students. It's very remedial but I think that it has great basic information as well! Good luck to you!

I never heard of this show before. Thank you!

Happy New Year! I know I don't want to loose my memories of the shows I watched in my youth.

I definitely remember the Tempest episode, having grown up with PBS as one of the few channels we'd still get at home when the cable bill wasn't paid. Bringing Taymor in to explain how theater can transform 16th/17th c. blank verse and iambic pentameter into something a contemporary 10-year old with no prior experience of Shakespeare (i.e. myself) could understand definitely helped me along towards embracing drama and creative writing as a permanent part of my life. Thanks for reminding me of this.

I watched this with my kids, and I loved it

I think that show looks charming. I loved this vide.

Yes! I do remember this show! And as a budding young artist it taught me complex principles like color theory in an easy format.

I REMEMBER THIS. We watched tapes in art class during elementary school a couple of times! The one part I remember really really vividly (and still think about pretty often) is the bit is that 'simplistic' bit with the line, from the marker to the spray paint to the skywriter.

I loved this video. I'm a fan of Penn & Teller and I appreciate you including context about their edgy politics as well as how engaging they are as entertainers and educators. I think it's wonderful you've made this tribute to something special and formative to share with us. Keep up the great work.

Hah! I remember this show! Such is the life of a child who grew up without cable. PBS was all I had.

I'm a big fan of Penn and Teller but I am sorry to say that I do not remember this show. It seems like it would be right up my alley as a child tho.

It’s good to be reminded. Thanks

I Remember This! I was in junior high and my photography teacher showed the class a couple episodes. I did forget the name of the show, but I remember parts of the episodes I saw that aren't in this video.

I got an ad for Penn and Teller's MasterClass course before this video 👍

@L1701

4 жыл бұрын

So did I. It's weird hearing Teller speak.

Hands down you are my favorite KZread Channel dude. Well done my guy.

This is such a neat way to start the New Year. :) I hope 2019 treats you well, Kyle. Lord & Lady know you deserve it.

I don't remember this show, but I know this feeling. I read a book in middle school, and for some reason, it just stuck with me. Years later, after I had forgotten the title, the author, everything but the basic concept of the book. I went back to that school and that library. Bless the librarian who found it for me. I don't know who had a better day, me for finding my book or her for seeing a book be that important to someone.

Holy shit I thought I dreamed this show.

Lost Media would be a fascinating subject for you to cover some day.

Continue making videos. You are fantastic.

I actually think I have seen bits and pieces of this show, but so briefly that it only vaguely tingles in my mind. That said, I do have a very good example of what you asked, as I learned not too long ago that a demo station I had seen years ago was in fact real, but I had almost convinced myself I had dreamed of it, but it sent a fascination with creative design for moving through a city with such primitive graphics that it stirred my imagination. A more imprinted example I am recalling that was more critical to me was an old mac game called Cosmic Osmo and the worlds beyond the Mackerel, and that game is TRIPPY, but also fun, an adventure game with a sandbox approach that let you explore strange and fantastic screens through bizarre transitions, an important inspiration for my urge to explore in video games through my life.

I'm seeking this out right now! I love pen and teller, I had no idea this existed. Thanks holms!

God, I barely remember that animated painting dude and the opening credits, but I do. It would have come out the year before I was born (and likely aired when I was a VERY small kid), but I watched so much PBS that I have no doubt that I watched this. (Also, I bought a shitty copy of Liberty's Kids off of Amazon ages ago because that's MY "I liked it so much but no one else remembers it" show. It's also a PBS show, but it only aired for something like a year before it got pulled and moved to another network)