Nintendo thought they were smart until pirates patched this out in a span of less than a week

Fun fact the anti piracy didn't work. Like it worked for a whole big 2 days. Then it go all roms patched and working

@AppLHD

5 ай бұрын

yeah thats typically how it goes. Thats why devs dont bother half of the time.

@Left4Cake

27 күн бұрын

In a world where publisher care most about day 1 sales it can still make sense. And at least this kind of anti piracy is kind of funny. XD

@SI0AX

22 күн бұрын

​@@Left4CakeGTAIV did something similar but put multiple versions throughout the whole game and it would delete the save data too I think. So hackers would think it was patches hill then ran into another trick as the progress the story. There were like more than 5 tricks, it actually took them 8 days to patch them all.

I really wish Nintendo would remaster Phantom Hourglass and Spirit tracks as well as Windwaker for the switch.

@RapsAndBaps

4 ай бұрын

Me too but I’d much rather a New title 2D title and a few remakes then wind waker and twilight princess as we’ve seen those already on the WiiU

@vanillaproductions8596

3 ай бұрын

I really, reaaaaally need to play all three 😭

@gargles5270

2 ай бұрын

i’ve never played wind waker and it’s the one i want to play the most from the series :( i recently found spirit tracks secondhand but i dont have a wii u so i cant play ww unless they remaster it lmao

@person13257

Күн бұрын

@@RapsAndBaps reading this after echoes of wisdom was announced lol

@RapsAndBaps

Күн бұрын

@@person13257 lol yeah I literally have 2 Oled Models the Zelda Tears Of The Kingdom Model And Scarlet And Violet Model looks like I’m getting the New Gold Edition Zelda Switch Lite now 😂

I find the techniques they use to detect piracy very interesting. Seeing how those techniques are used though it interesting too.

@Mansory811

Жыл бұрын

Those arent techniques to detect them, this is the result after it detected them

@xxhardforcorexx1231

Жыл бұрын

I suppose I could say the same, but I don't want my interest to be confused with acceptance. I truthfully hate anti-piracy measures. I just want to understand how it works so I can maybe overcome it. What really tickles me pink is when anti-piracy measures get parried. It's a war I'd rather be on the "bad" side of because 9/10 games I've ever tried to pirate are made by companies who have enough money to pay for a multitude of lifetimes.

@CoolJosh3k

Жыл бұрын

@@Mansory811 That is what I mean. While this is interesting, I am very interested in techniques used to detect piracy in the first place.

@CoolJosh3k

Жыл бұрын

@@xxhardforcorexx1231 If there were no anti-piracy and everyone could choose to buy it or play for free there would be too little funding for development. Even if a studio is rich, they will see how much a game makes for them and be encouraged to make more of the same thing that did well.

@xxhardforcorexx1231

Жыл бұрын

@@CoolJosh3k That's simply not true. Plenty of pirates still contribute to the community. I've tried to as much as possible. It's really no worse than buying a piece of media from someone online. I mean, the company doesn't get money for that either. The only time I'm going to frown on piracy is if it's happening to a small company who genuinely needs the funds. Corporations like Nintendo are going to thrive irregardless.

I was going to joke about Link being too busy being a pirate and/or sailing the high seas to learn to drive a train, then I remembered its actually set 100 years after the games where a different Link basically was a pirate and sailed the seas lol (aka Wind Waker which had Tetra's crew).

@powlman6841

Ай бұрын

This link and the Hourglass/WW link are seperate iirc

Yet Spirit Tracks' anti-piracy was broken in like a day.

@rayan-yg8jw

9 ай бұрын

how?

@LexLight1

8 ай бұрын

@@rayan-yg8jw I guess they debugged the game and found the actual cause that enables the anti-piracy measures, so they patched them and released the anti-piracy patch to the public a few days after the release of the original dump.

Looking forward to all these great DS and 3DS games getting ported to modern consoles.

@Dani_1012

Жыл бұрын

Seeing how Nintendo is now I'm afraid that won't happen :(

@ActuallyZee

9 ай бұрын

never gonna happen, just emulate its always better.

@sapphiredawn5773

8 ай бұрын

Yeah right

@moo7662

8 ай бұрын

Man I hope so, with seeing 3ds and ds games getting remade, I really hope that ST gets the remake it deserves

@ZenMonkeyGod

4 ай бұрын

Only thing I'm confused on is how to properly emulate DS games. Like the game is designed around the two screens with touch controls. I haven't attempted it bc I don't even see how it would be playable on any other device

The thing that stopped my emulated copy from working isn't actually the train controls. It's that stupid flute minigame. I used Melon Ds on Android because I wanted to play by touching the screen like on a Real Ds, and it worked perfectly in Phantom Hourglass. But to my knowledge there is no emulator that supports the blow in mic feature (most just make it blow constantly) so the second Locomo song becomes impossible. I also got stopped in Phantom Hourglass when the emulator I was using didn't have a 'close ds' button so it was impossible to find the island on the scroll. I'm starting to think all those hardware gimmicks were actually anti-piracy measures all along

@moo7662

8 ай бұрын

It's really not that hard to emulate the blow mechanic for any game, I did it for BiS, and it works great

@FantomMisfit

5 ай бұрын

​@moo7662 No you don't understand...the stupid duets....hellish... spent a week trying to place the desert duet game expects you to be a damn musician I best it once and will never play it again because of those damn duets

@SairinEarthsea

4 ай бұрын

I'm currently using melonds and it's playing the flute, I switched it to blow instead of default so that might work for you too.

@XxInuyashadowxX

4 ай бұрын

@@SairinEarthsea I did and it works but I'm stuck before the third dungeon anyway cause my rhythm sucks

@cameforcopperfoundgold1034

9 күн бұрын

Drastic has full support for the mic wether you want to use a button for it or use your device’s microphones it fully works it also lets you change the sensitivity

I am in such a small camp on this- I adore Spirit Tracks. Spirit Tracks and Minish Cap are my favorite handheld Zeldas. They have this very unique charm about them

@moo7662

8 ай бұрын

Same, spirit tracks I absolutely adore. I continue to cope about it getting a remake lol

@rabbitbeargaming2441

7 ай бұрын

I love spirit tracks quite alot

@ZenMonkeyGod

4 ай бұрын

Mad respect to everyone who mentions Minish Cap, it's amazing and so underrated

Makes sense that there are anti-piracy measures in this game. Canonically, the pirates who founded new Hyrule are either dead or living a peaceful life in retirement. The random ones in the ocean realm don't matter either because their ships go down pretty quickly

There are a lot of ways these games prank people with pirated games but how did these various games even know it was a pirated copy?

@m2pt5

Жыл бұрын

It varies depending on the console and specific game - some games detect inconsistencies in the save RAM, some check for specific things on the cartridge or disc that piracy typically ignores, and some just run the standard piracy check multiple times throughout the game, all of which have to be hacked to make it fully playable. (Spyro 3 is an example of that last one.) That said, rarely is the actual piracy check altered, hackers just fix it to always return the "not pirated" response.

I actually have a legitimate AND pirated version of this game. I confirm.

You could also deal with pirates by blasting them with your canon on the overworld before they get to your train

@terrorbillywilly7918

3 ай бұрын

Golden comment

I had someone ask me for help with this back in highschool, I didn't know it was an anti-piracy measure until years later. The funny thing was, was that at the time I was playing the game on an emulator and yet I didn't encounter it at all. Guess that goes to show the power of competently built emulators over r4 carts...

And anyone with a pirated copy going onto the forums to ask for help out themselves immediately for pirating the game 😂

@demoliman

8 ай бұрын

with how old this game is the more prominent sites probably got past this anti pirating feature

I had this game on my R4 card yet I didn't have that

No matter how many times I see it, the train controls being on the right looks cursed as hell to me. (I’m left handed)

I have had to deal with the spirit tracks controls measure. It was really confusing after having already beat the game long before hand. I thought I was missing an item or didn't talk to a certain character . I searched forever , found nothing , got frustrated and checked online. Jokes on me. Yes , I do own the game, a physical cartridge.

My cousin had a pirated copy, and had that same problem XD

I've played it on my phone before and this didn't happen to me

@Twilit_Gamer

9 ай бұрын

The anti piracy measures are typically only detected on actual DS and 3DS hardware. I think emulators usually have built-in patches

@yoseikanben8699

4 ай бұрын

​@@Twilit_GamerThe Anti-Piracy method shown here lasted like 2 Days. Then people Found a way around. It's not a case of : Only DS can figure out it's not an original copy. It's that these methods are usually Found and fixed in a few Days. Basically it's not worth it

I recently beat spirit tracks with all rabbits, golden train pieces, stamps, etc (on an emulator) and was reminded why i love thw game

@anomalya1242

6 ай бұрын

Question, how did you do the music note parts without a microphone? i beat this game on my ds recently and almost once fainted from blowing too much in to my (half broken) mic

@DevelonLP

5 ай бұрын

​@@anomalya1242the Emulator has a blow Button.

It worked on kid me, I replayed this section like 6 times before I gave up. Glad I bought the game tho, love it so much

Still played a pirated version same day

These shorts are a good idea man

I got hit with this one on an old R4 card a friend gifted me in highschool. Most games worked but it came with a bunch of games on the card already and this was one of them, i just assumed the controls were buttons and couldnt figure out how to make the train go. I gave up and never tried playing it again lol. Not sure i missed out on anything 😂

How do they know if it's a pirated version?

All of this effort, yet I remember playing and finishing an unoriginal copy of this game not that long after release

Interested... I recently raw-dumped one of my cartridges and it works fine.

Ok but how do they know the difference? That's what I'm wondering

it works now

Idk, works for me

i have a fake cart of it and it works

You'd think pirating Spirit Track would be its own punishment.

@Werner34567

Жыл бұрын

Why? Its a fun game

@jlchips

Жыл бұрын

Bro it's such a good game. Why don't you actually play it

@moo7662

8 ай бұрын

It's a super fun game, idk why it'd be such a punishment

@littlemoth4956

6 ай бұрын

Spirit Tracks is a fucking awesome game.

@ZenMonkeyGod

4 ай бұрын

Are you for real?! Spirit Tracks is the definition of underrated. Explain how those dungeons aren't some of the best in the series.

Oh shitto.

I have a pirated version but this doesn't happen

I emulated this game back in what 2007? And trust me this didnt happen.

@Basedguy1

Жыл бұрын

I played it on an r4 card and yeah it did. But i was young and didn't have much internet access so didn't realise that patches were a thing.

I would give a lot to go back to the days where this was my main game.

pretty sure you've covered this before

Very clever.

@disneydaniel3163

Жыл бұрын

That what happened when you play it on the R4 card

@mon94key

Жыл бұрын

​@@disneydaniel3163 within about 2 days a patch was released for the r4 card to bypass it

Does emulation count as piracy?

@Alex-hj2jd

Жыл бұрын

Depends on where your ROMs come from.

@xxhardforcorexx1231

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-hj2jd Why does that matter? How is one ROM site any different from the other? The only difference I can spot is what's available and whether or not the site will give you a virus. I don't see how one can be considered a pirate site and another not. It's all pertaining to the same stuff.

@Alex-hj2jd

Жыл бұрын

@@xxhardforcorexx1231 It's only not considered piracy if you extract the game files from a physical game that you own. Any site that you get it from is piracy.

@xxhardforcorexx1231

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-hj2jd Well that's like dumb x10. If I have a physical game, why would I want to extract it? And how is that not considered piracy if the game was purchased from someone online? The company gets literally no money from that transaction.

I brought my pirate version to my friends house bc I was stuck and he was like “what’s wrong with your game”

nintendo always make the piracy measure an ingame problem that to ask online would probably out yourself as having a pirated copy lol good idea

Yeah Nintendo hates you and pirating it is beautiful and moral

remember it isn't piracy if its not indie.

Fook Nintendo! ARGH!!

I have an issue against this game personally 😂😂 I couldn’t even figure out the game 😢

Fun fact when I played it didn’t work I played it normally Nintendo you suck at anti piracy

100th comment. Well...that's that.