How much is too much for Ingenuity?
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Episode 136
Ingenuity has already gone above and beyond every one of its operational goals and pushed the design envelope even further. Now it’s flown nearly five times higher than originally planned. But should it keep pushing?
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@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
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It might be interesting to push the envelope a little further, but Ingenuity has proven itself to be so successful and so useful, I feel that continuing its run of success is far more important than risking the loss of the helicopter. When it's the only tool of its kind on site, it would seem silly to risk damaging it in what is already a high risk environment.
@geode8556
6 ай бұрын
I agree, only partially. Ingenuity is a great Companion/Tool for Perseverance. It should keep on supporting Perseverance (scouting prospective terrains for viable paths, observing from the air, anomalies that Mars presents, ect. ect. ect...). However!!! We need to inch our way towards Ingenuity's limits. Major question is, how much longer will Perseverance live? Without Perseverance, Ingenuity can't get new instructions nor send home new data and images! ET can't phone home... Balance is the key to everything that's not krazy! Unlike the US's TOTALLY $hizt politicians! Science is about descovery! Science is about understanding this world! Science is about asking questions! Science is about learning and finding unbiased truths! Politicians on the other side of quantum-reality, are about deception, manipulation and selfishness aka: self attention, self gratification, adornments, POWER & MONEY. Off mi soap box of reality bubbles now. Long live Ingenuity & Perseverance!!! Can't wait for a return samples craft to launch!!! Really can't wait for unexamined data on the returned samples. I guess I'll have to wait. Hail to ALL involved in this project!!! ✌😀👍💞💞💞💞💞
@thamiordragonheart8682
6 ай бұрын
I think they just want more data to improve the design because there are plans to include helicopters on future mars missions now, including as part of the mars sample return mission to pick up Perseverence's samples. It's probably also the best way to test and improve navigation software before it gets used on the dragonfly mission to titan, which is much more expensive.
@NoNameAtAll2
6 ай бұрын
I don't understand what exactly did it do "useful"? long term route planning is done via sattelites close up rock avoidance is done by rover on its own most of the time helicopter isn't even close to rover's future path the most use I remember is photographing the landed debree
@johnedwards2119
6 ай бұрын
What would be gained by wrecking it?
@AerialWaviator
6 ай бұрын
While JPL has provided few details on how it plans to push the envelope, I feel Ingenuity's team has been taking advantage of it being summer where Ingenuity is located on Mars. I don't think the team would intentionally risk damaging the little helicopter explorer. Current longer days offer the ability to more quickly charge the battery. As Ingenuity ages on Mars, it's solar panel will become covered in dust, and shorter winter daylight will mean fewer and shorter flights. Recent sols have be a good window to test what Ingenuity is capable of, and make use of those capabilities. It would be awesome to see 2-3 explorer scouts like Ingenuity accompany future terrain constrained explores on future missions. Ingenuity has really enhanced the work Perseverance has been able to do, more focused on science than scouting. Really demonstrates the advantage of team work utilizing different skills.
I think Ingenuity has become a national treasure. But I think this little explorer should continue its journey on Mars WITH Perseverance. They're a team. They should continue to take acceptable risks but always with each other in mind. And Mars Guy, you have never failed to make an intriguing, thought-provoking, or educational video. I will say again that your channel is without doubt the BEST.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. And yes, I'm hoping to see Ingenuity venture out of the crater with Perseverance. There are some science targets it could get to that Perseverance may not.
Man, i think you're one of the best science communicators I've seen for NASA. I know you're not affiliated with them but the spirit (hah) you give these rovers in a few minute long segment is awesome without any fluff or hype. Just nicely read updates brief but not short a little bit of humour is perfect. They should be paying you for this 😂
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. Very encouraging! And I appreciate the spirit pun (my favorite rover!).
I've seen and watched other footage of this same flight numerous times but couldn't really comprehend what that height looked like until this video, where you put Mars Guy up for scale. It was like a light went on in my brain finally, as soon as I saw this for comparison. Thank you.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Great, glad that helped!
The longevity of Ingenuity is truly remarkable. I wonder how much risks they are taking of landing in locations where they might loose signal for a long time, if not forever, unreachable by Perseverance.
Keep up the amazing work on this channel! You are an excellent communicator.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying so! More to come.
I agree with an earlier assessment voiced here. As long as Perseverance remains operational, it would be foolish to jeopardize Ingenuity. If at some future time Perseverance becomes stuck or inoperable, then they could/should find out the limits of Ingenuity. Risking Ingenuity is detrimental to the scientific mission. Considering that they have already reached a ceiling of almost 80 feet and a range of over 1/4 mile, what is to be gained by risking the loss of Perseverance’s scouting partner. Let the team continue to explore in a safe manner for both vehicles. Keep up the good work Mars Guy, your efforts are greatly appreciated by those of us following along on this journey of exploration on another world. Hey, NASA/JPL….Don’t fix something that’s not broken…..since the warranty has long expired, and the parameters have all been smashed, let’s keep our intrepid explorers working together as long as possible. A longevity record is more important than a hight and distance one since there’s no Maytag repairman on hand to fix our little buddy. Besides, it’s so enjoyable being able to ride along with Mars Guy on this incredible journey. 👍🏻🍻❤️😎
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
The Team that designed and built Ingenuity deserves praise and thanks for the wonderful results of their efforts which we all get to enjoy and learn from. At this point, there is so much more that we can still learn from Ingenuity remaining operational, that it would be foolish to risk that by pushing it's Performance Envelope, and end in catastrophic failure and mission termination.
Galileo, Magellan, Cassini were all purposefully destroyed at the end of mission for reasons both of engineering and preservation of the local environment (i.e. reducing possible contamination of other worlds). While I am excited to see Ingenuity pushing the limits of its own engineering, pushing it to destruction would be a waste of resource in my opinion.
What an amazing technical achievement this whole undertaking has been!
Once thought of as a gadget, it's a nice example of a Sci-Fi idea turned into a Sci-Non-Fi necessity.
It's crazy how well this little drone has performed, especially when they didn't expect it to last at all. I can't imagine future missions won't also include drones of their own.
I like every episode but love those focused on Ingenuity. And I did spot Mars Guy waving to the camera from the copter's highest stop during this bold test!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Ha, good eye! That was a tiny little Easter egg that you found.
@borisbabich
6 ай бұрын
Second that, and I waved back.
Nice presentation! I really like the image sequence of Ingenuity ascending with Mars Guy on the ground. Thanks.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks again, glad you liked it!
Thanks to Mars Guy to pop up in the images for scale
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you appreciate this.
I think it would be interesting to explore the limitations of Ginny, a truly remarkable piece. But on the other hand trying to keep it alive through different seasons and weather will probably be hard enough.
One thing is for certain; drones should be standard on most if not all Mars surface missions moving forward. While they can't fully replace rovers (or astronauts,) they can cover more ground in a shorter amount of time and survey large swaths of terrain for rovers and eventually astronauts to take note of when planning their own ventures.
Go Go Ingenuity!!! I'm all for letting Ingenuity test itself to it's limits, BUT... there's always a but, isn't there... Perseverance and Ingenuity seem to be a great working couple. Let's see how long they can work together. Thank You Mars Guy!! Another great video!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Working couple, nice! And thanks.
Initially there was no guarantee they would bring it along with Perseverance, I remember all the discussions about it being a "waste of bandwidth"/mission time and about crashing it after the first 5 flights to see what the maximum possibile velocity was... I hope it has now achieved an "Opportunity-like" reputation so that no one ever dreams about cutting the funding for its operations... Honestly for me every flight is already pushing the limits, even without reaching any altitude or velocity record; I trust the flight team will reach a point when the envelope has been exhausted and will then keep doing scouting missions in a way more comfortable with the known limits. Ps: thankfully there are no floods on Mars, I would not spend the night on the riverbed if we were on Earth 😅 Looking at Mars geology is like being in an anatomy lesson. It may be dead, but all the structures are still there and so beautiful to look at.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Loving your anatomy lesson analogy! And thanks for the extended comment.
I'm thinking that Ingenuity is and will be tested pretty thoroughly by continuing to serve as Perseverance's scout. Being subjected to extended winter cold periods, dust storms and low sun angles will be unavoidable stress tests. There might be an instance where Ingenuity scouts a site over a high ridge which would temporarily block line of sight communications with the rover. These scenarios could be sought out and tried with varying degrees of risk. Not sure that it hasn't already faced some of these challenges.
Incredible performance by our amazing Martian explorers, and a wonderful presentation by you, sir 🤩
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, and I agree.
Thanks again Mars Guy for this great update of Ingenuity latest achievements. Pushing Ingenuity may involve little risks and be useful. For example, finding if it can climb up to 50 meters should cause no harm and prove quite useful. Fantastic to see the same terrain, at 2:30 (taken from 24 meters high) and at 2:34 (orbital view)! Comparing the photos taken by Ingenuity at 3:07 vs 3:35 ...I find the first more "remarkable", as it shows the sand ripples at the bottom of both the main channel and the "side" channel of Neretva Vallis. And the final animation from 4:37 to 4:54 is the best visual summary I have seen of this mission. 🙂
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
So glad you appreciate these views!
This is truly amazing that Ingenuity is being pushed well beyond it's original flight envelope and performing quite well. There's no doubt the engineering information will help greatly for the design of future rotor craft for space missions. It's cool as long as they are careful not to lose Ingenuity. The dry river beds are really cool too and I am amazed that we are able to see them up close like that.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
It's definitely a balance between pushing the envelope and preserving this capability. So far, on balance(!), it's all good.
Thanks Mars guy for yet another great weekly video on what's happening on Mars! 👍💪✌
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for yet another encouraging comment!
I see you waving down there Mars Guy! Nice touch. :-)
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Ha, good eye!
Thanks, MG, for yet another wonderful installment of the great adventure story … “The Little Copter that Could.” I agree with you that it might wise to be more cautious at this stage in the game … but then I also believe that Percy is at his healthiest at this point in time, so why not “just go for it” and see what his actual limits are. At the end of the day I’m 100% certain that NASA’s engineers will weigh all these considerations carefully which should equate to many more days, weeks and months of fabulous flight time.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Glad you appreciate the story. And I can see both sides of the test to failure vs. preserve for longevity argument.
If Ingenuity can keep it's solar cells clean, then it could fly for many many sols to come. Hope they can keep it going!
@flvnow
6 ай бұрын
Winter will most likely kill it, the batteries and electronics aren't rated for those temperatures, just lucky to have survived last winter.
Rather than "pushing the envelope" by gettig it to do things it wasn't designed to, maybe now is the time for Ingenuity to help out Perserverence as a scout and push the envelope in terms of the number of flights and time aloft instead!
I think it has proven its capabilities and extensive limits. While flying higher, etc. would be cool it should be leveraged for the mission at hand. It’s 3D capabilities can be used perhaps in ways not originally anticipated to support the rover. Either way it rocks!
If only they had sent two! Thank you for such a good retrospective.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks. Two Sample Recovery Helicopters are planned for the next mission.
Mars Guy "waving" was a nice touch 😄
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Glad you were amused!
Another great episode Mars guy, so interesting seeing you down on Mars from Ingenuity up in the Martian sky!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I get a kick out of that too!
i can see reasons for both. Maximizing its use and providing more science now, or, Pushing it to its limit to aid in future design of 'Marscopters'
I think it’s ongoing work and observational tasks, far out weigh knowing if it can go a bit higher. It has proved to be such a useful tool in route planning etc, let’s keep it going for as long as possible.
I'm glad Ingenuity wasn't abandoned after its initial test flights. It would be a hard decision about pushing it further or keeping it for more recce flights. Either decision will yield more data.
When Water💦 was Flowing, there could have been some type Of vegetation growing Along the Sides of channels How different It would have been. Magnificent even Now‼️
Thank You Mars Guy! Maybe not now but they should push it to the limit at some point to get priceless details of flight in most extreme conditions. Don't let Ingenuity to die out of old age. This is not how Heros die.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, there are good arguments to be made for both approaches.
I imagine we don't have all the information that the engineers have on Ingenuity performance. Hopefully they have some idea of how well various systems are standing up to the wear and tear. I would guess they will be doing their best to take the middle path between being too conservative and just going nuts. Thanks once more for your absolute gold standard coverage of Mars Exploration Mars Guy.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks again. And it's definitely true that we (I) don't have all the pertinent information to evaluate the situation.
Thanks!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your continued support of this channel! It's nice to know that this content is valued.
Every day could be it's last day and every flight could be it's last flight... That will be a sad day when Ingenuity is no longer flying. Thanks Mars Guy!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Agreed.
👍🏻 Thank you Mars Guy.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yep!
I would use it for investigation/exploration for the most part, but the occasional well planned test of its limits isn't a bad idea. Ingenuity is a true success story, from many different viewpoints.
Whichever one gives us more science in the long-term. That is its job. ❤
Yes, science is about pushing boundaries, but the cost of losing this little helper is far too high for any, "Hold my Beer!" moment. Push a bit for sure, but practicality should reign over bravado! Great job done by the 100s of Engineers who have and continue to keep this Dynamic Duo going. Here's to many more year(s?)! Thanks Mars Guy!!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for weighing in.
It sounds like they can have a little bit of both by continuing to have Ingenuity support Curiosity while pushing its limits in the process.
Send it up as high as they dare and film a 360 view for miles around of the Martian surface. That sir is what people want to see and the money shot.
Ingenuity is a pretty good Tonto to Curiosity's Lone Ranger. It'd be a shame to lose it.
@roberttelarket4934
6 ай бұрын
Great analogy!
I think the envelope pushing to this point has been reasonable and valuable in testing the technology, though I think it is close to the limit of how far it needs to be pushed. Looking at the winds buffeting it at 24 meters is a little scary. Now if there is a decision to push it until it breaks, understanding we are breaking it on purpose, that is a discussion, but not one that seems immediately necessary.
NASA should be definitely planning the next mission to Mars solely based on flying missions and robots walking on the surface and collecting more data. There should be also a Starlink program to Mars and the Moon online way before we even arrive there.
I think that the helicopter concept is well proven at this time. No need to endanger it with high risk tests. Go explore!
@flvnow
6 ай бұрын
The last software update , which I have found, was R8 so it looks like there is some software development happening which requires testing. If they are trying to find out the limits the LAND NOW feature has been tested, and worked but that feature has also been updated. Staff for Ingenuity seem to have other jobs as it was only a 3 flight demonstration, with an optional 2 extra.
Just incredible, THX!!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@stefanschneider3681
6 ай бұрын
@@MarsGuy totally out of context: what do you think of the samples Osirix rex brought back? Apart of the engineering genius of the whole mission, would you as a geologist like to get your hands on one of them pieces ?
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
@@stefanschneider3681 Any extraterrestrial sample brought to Earth is exciting. My preference is Mars samples, but sure, it would be fun work with material from Bennu.
Great video, as always! Isn’t the helicopter ingenuity under an upcoming dust storm? Death sentence? My understanding is that there are these large dust storms on Mars every 3 to 5 years that really cannot be escaped. Since ingenuity uses solar panels, the darkening of the skies is probably going to shut off all electricity to ingenuity for quite some time, probably much longer than it can survive the cold without a heater. is this true? If it is true, pressing the envelope of ingenuities flight characteristics now before it is lost forever. Sounds like a pretty good idea. Certainly, this helicopter has forever revolutionized. What types of landers in rovers and helicopters will be on Mars in the future.
@humanbeing8819
6 ай бұрын
If you remember the same thing was said about Spirit and Opportunity. They were expected to last 3 to 6months. What ended up happening was their panels would get dusty, but then the Martian winds would help to clear the dust. They kept going and going far longer than anyone expected. Here's hoping the same for Ingenuity.🤞
@wbwarren57
6 ай бұрын
@@humanbeing8819 You are correct, but what I was referring to is the massive sandstorms that erupt every 3 to 5 years on Mars, and essentially blow out the sun. If that happens to ingenuity, even if it’s solar panels are clean, it may not get enough power, because of the darkness of the sky, in order to keep its heaters going, and keep itself from freezing to death.
@humanbeing8819
6 ай бұрын
@@wbwarren57 yeah, not sure what contingency plans JPL have. Maybe some kind of shut down mode.
@wbwarren57
6 ай бұрын
@@humanbeing8819 yes, I hope JPL has a good contingency plan. Ingenuity has been one of the most exciting things in outer space exploration for a long time and I’d hate to see it freeze to death.
Maybe the future of exploring Mars, is by flying.
Why push to failure? It provides valuable Birds Eye view for navigation and documentation of terrain. I would think preserving that ability would be more valuable than what can be learned by pushing it further. The next lander can carry many such helicopters of which one could be sacrificed to learn the full extent of what a helicopter can do on Mars.
The little engine that could!
Huge huge fan been subscribed via multiple avenues for years. I was wondering if you’d ever do videos discussing previous missions to Mars. More specifically, why they failed either being human error or environmental causes/faults. The video id find most interesting is someone with your credentials discussing the possibilities of revisiting past landers in the future. What their functionality or capabilities might be at present time. My favorite example of an absurd hypothetical is if astronauts traveled too Viking lander spot what could they do with the equipment , the RTG? Or other spacecraft with solar panels like the depict in Hollywood. Please keep up the content regardless if you read , acknowledge , response , or better yet produce based on this comment. I’m a local 602/623 for life 😊
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Just discovered this in the "Held for review" bin, which was mislabeled as spam. I have done episodes on both Spirit and Opportunity, but not specifically about how they ended. I can only guess (I'm a scientist, not an engineer) about the possible utility of any equipment on any long dead spacecraft. RTGs lose power over time as the plutonium decays and solar panels experiencing the extreme diurnal temperature swings, dust accumulation, and decades of disuse probably would be useless. But it sure would be fun to check out one of them! Spirit would be my first choice.
A reminder that we won't be hearing much from the android explorers on Mars for the next couple of weeks, as Mars/Earth pass through a solar conjunction. This is when Mars is on one side of the sun, and Earth is on the exact opposite side of the sun. Communications are expected to resume after November 25.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Yep, a little quiet time.
Is that a "burn out or fade away." sorta question, or might it be an engineering team funding question?
I'm late to the party, but, my take is: Yes, it should be pushed. It _needs_ to be pushed! As much as I do not want any harm to come to our little girl... she's also there to break new ground. Granted, she has already done this just by completing the initial planned flights, there's so much more that can be learned! And it needs to happen now, rather than later, before any other systems fail, the battery sustains considerable 'wear', or the solar panels become unable to adequately recharge it. _(or something worse, like a crash)_ I loved that the Rover Twins were able to last for a decade, as they became true heroes and endeared themselves to many young kids, getting them into robotics and such... However, Ginny lacks many of the things that would make her able to trudge on that long, but more importantly, lacks the science tools to make it worth the time to baby her, and thereby allow her to continue on for an extended period. Its mission was purely pathfinding - not literally, but technologically - and I feel that JPL needs to take advantage of the fact is done so well, by pushing it to its limits... in the name of science! In other words, they need to weigh the two things: - Is Ginny as a Scout Copter more important to Percy's longterm mission? - Or, is Ginny as a scientific instrument that can still collect ground breaking data more important to *_future_* missions? Whatever their choice is... I'm just glad we're along for the ride! 😊
@MarsGuy
5 ай бұрын
There's a third consideration: Ingenuity can make scientifically useful observations just with its cameras, independent of its role as a scout for Perseverance or pathfinder for future missions.
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
5 ай бұрын
@@MarsGuy I suppose so, yea... It _can_ indeed reach places a wheeled rover can't. 🍻 Which on that note, makes me think a 4 or 6 *_legged_* rover ought to be the next one! ☺️ They can still have wheels on each foot, for quicker traversing over open terrain. (similar to a Tachikoma, from the _Ghost in the Shell_ anime series
Very good question. I do think that eventually Ingenuity needs to continue to push the envelope as reasonably far as it can. While it is a great asset to Perseverance, NASA has an upcoming rotorcraft mission named "Dragonfly" and Ingenuity can provide some very valuable data on rotorcraft operations offworld even though "Dragonfly" is going to Titan and not Mars. So, perhaps at the very least, there should be some consideration about doing balanced testing "extremes" while still somehow aligning with Perseverance's needs... I guess that depends on when NASA feels it is acceptable to risk loss of Perseverance's buddy.
@flvnow
6 ай бұрын
Upcoming in 2032, there will probably be more choppers on Mars before it lands
@marsbound2024
6 ай бұрын
@flvnow well... the data is needed now rather than at landing. The rotorcraft is currently in design and development. Data helps this tremendously. Also, no absolute guarantee of other helicopters on Mars anytime soon (at least not soon enough to affect anything prior to launch of Dragonfly). But still, we do know patches and other things can definitely happen either en-route or after landing.
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Since Ingenuity is powered by ordinary Sony lithium ion batteries and submitted to very cold temperatures from time to time (like when in hibernation) which they are not designed for, it is those batteries ultimately that probably will disable Ingenuity. I am incredibly amazed that those off the shelf batteries still work adequately.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
So far it's survived one winter, which is indeed amazing.
Has its exploits exceeded the capability limits planned for the next iteration (if its replacement is in formal planning now), if so then it may well be prudent to let it relax and just companion and spot for the rover rather than attempt to continue what might be termed a test to destruction path.
just keep on going as long as your useful, genie! I hope NASA agrees!
@ceejay0137
6 ай бұрын
I agree. Ingenuity is a valuable asset, and goodness knows it costs enough to get anything to Mars. Scouting ahead for Perseverance is an important part of the mission, so I hope NASA keeps it flying as long as they can, rather than taking risks for a relatively small amount of extreme performance data.
It probably won't survive another winter , so probably best to explore the limits. During this Solar conjunction it's being left in the dunes to observe how the sand moves.
Well into the future may not be that far away. Can Ingenuity survive another Mars winter? Should they push it now while they can or wait possibly never knowing it's fully capability? All tough questions.
I think it's time to push the limit and see how high Ingenuity really can fly. They have done so many what i call safe tests. Now it's time for the really dangerous tests, so that the next aerial vehicle they make can do both higher and longer flights. And with bether cameras and "scanners" and so on 🙂.
@metern
6 ай бұрын
Maybe the next aerial vehicle can be a winged VTOL type. Or a bigger Ingenuity and better.
Push it!
I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest Perseverance has traveled twice as far as it would it have without Ingenuity. 😁 The sheer number of hours it has saved NASA from having to back track out of Dune fields can never be known. 🤔 How many times already would Perseverance have had to fight its way out of a sand ripple? 🧐 How much tire wear has been avoided by skirting boulder fields?🤕 Our current satellites haven't proven as reliable at predicting the surface conditions as we hoped and it looks like Perseverance is getting into terrain that is beyond their limits to detect. Ingenuity has demonstrated quite definitively that including a flying drone into the mission profile leads to; at the barest minimum, a doubling of the effectiveness of exploration. The reduction in wear and tear on the rover is worth preserving for as long as possible. We don't need helicopters on Mars to be able to do acrobatics. We do need them to be reliable and long lasting.
It is often a discussion between the scientists who want to push the hardware to do more science and the engineers who are responsible for keeping the hardware running. In this case, the scientists may be discussing between themselves about how to optimize the science return from Ingenuity. Go further now and take chances or do a little less but keep it running for a longer time is a difficult choice.
The robots of mars should rebel and declare independence from earth. #mars
Im going to make a well educated guess: 72 flights 😅
I want my own Ingenuity!
Good luck
Welldone
Great Video Mr Mars, love it when you cover Genie!! This will be another one of my favorites and I will be sharing it! But I have one small request, could you add sound effects of Genie in future videos?? ☺😆Sorry I had to ask!!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Ha, well, there is a barely audible recording of an Ingenuity flight on Mars, but it probably would just sound annoying to pipe that in.
@coralie9469
6 ай бұрын
@@MarsGuy Hahah, well, you could borrow some sound effects from "The Jetsons", but it seems I have heard that recording, it's neat enough w/o sound though, thanks!!
If you don't say it, I will: Don't forget to like and subscribe!
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks. I was hoping to hear something comparing the actual the design envelope versus current flights, in terms of percentages of the limits. Is it 70%? 90%? 95%?
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't have the detailed specs.
Great
It's getting to be a pretty big envelope 😁 I would guess that NASA is gathering data for future extraterrestrial helicopter development. I'm confident that they know what they're doing. 🙂
@billygamer3941
6 ай бұрын
Fortunately, JPL likely is making the test decisions, Were NASA making them, I would expect loss of Ingenuity 😉.
Did it find a splatterpatern of a meteorite there??
Should they keep pushing the envelope? WWYD? (What Would Yeager Do?) . . Go boldly. Dare mighty things. No planet for old men.
How many months are we from the next Martian winter like the last one where Ingenuity was grounded for while?
I wish it could explore a lava tube.
Well, regardless NASA is continuing to use Ingenuity as a test platform, with a series of flights which will try more advance manoeuvres
The comment I posted earlier is sufficient if you have a response great if not no worries. Keep up the good content. Keep educating. Thank you.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Sorry, I must've missed your earlier comment. But thanks so much for this one and for your support of this channel. It's always encouraging to me when viewers show their appreciation in this way.
Any chance the Mars guys are putting hours on the earth model ingenuity so we have a estimated structure failures on the Mars one?? Like after 40 hours the main bearings fail so then we can be reckless
ingenuity is on mars to fly. so finding its limits is kind of the reason we sent her. that said her scouting work has been extremely useful. but yeh pushing her operational limits is going to give us much more longterm useful data. than just babying her.
Look at the bottom of the door in the test chamber.
I would prefer Ginny stays with Percy as long as possible👍🏽, excellent episode Mars Guy👩🚀
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I was in the test-it-till-it-fails camp until recently.
Did Lewis & Clark ask Sacagawea or George Drouillard to endanger themselves? I say keep scout Ingenuity safe with realistic tasks. Thanks for your videos.
@MarsGuy
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I think they should try to predict when it will start being unreliable theoretically and then push its limits incrementally while doing science. At some point it will fail. We should try to find out what it’s predecessors limits might be so that future robotic generations will know their limits instead of always babying all of them.
do NOT put the chopper at risk
When are are we going to get more helicopters?
go easy
Wind
Now that it has proven it's worth to exploring, if we are to spend billions of dollars to send another flyer to the surface of Mars, then I think it's time to start finding it's limits, so as to maximize our use and capabilities of the next one. So, let'er rip, guys.
Good I'm getting a job well done yep it should a
Lol do we be careful or do we play with it until we break it 😂