2023 update: 8BitDo appears to have updated this stick, and it no longer uses torx/safety screws on the bottom. And there no longer seems seems to be any glue or resin used either

@Tj11813

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm it uses philips screws.

@Jovianoid

Жыл бұрын

Yep I was kinda confused that mine had normal screws and everyone was talking about torx :)

@grouchygamer2404

8 ай бұрын

I got the xbox version and it seems the glue the screws holding the stick inside instead all my screws are destroyed and I haven't been able to install the sanwa stick because of this.

@rameshahuna

4 ай бұрын

Are the updates only in the xbox verison? Or even in the switch version?

@Vex505

4 ай бұрын

Can confirm, just bought one and the screws are phillips screws. They do have glue, not on the heads but at the bottom. I would recommend cleaning up the six screws before sealing it back up again, as the glue residue seems to be effecting the screws to fully tighten.

For the macro buttons, I actually use the 8bitdo ultimate software to remap them to be Left stick click and Right stick click

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh, great idea. That's actually a clever use for them

@shrewdsharpshooter

2 жыл бұрын

You mean R3 and L3? It would be great if it is possible.

@duaplex1

Жыл бұрын

@@shrewdsharpshooter Yes, I have just done mine and it works. I use xpadder for configuring the stick.

@shrewdsharpshooter

Жыл бұрын

@@duaplex1 I got the stick and remapped them as R3 and L3. Definitely great. I guess you can use the 8bitdo software to remap buttons to your liking instead of xpadder?

@duaplex1

Жыл бұрын

@@shrewdsharpshooter xpadder is used so I can play all emulators on hyperspin. So it maps the hyperspin keyboard contols to the arcade stick. You definitely need the 8bitdo software for P1 and P2 otherwise it won't detect it. It all depends on how you use it.

Hey everyone! I realized the audio becomes slightly desync'd during the "Closing thoughts" section. Sorry for the annoyance, it must have been an export issue; I'll keep an eye out for this in the future.

@d0_nothing

Жыл бұрын

yo its that 4cm ball top ?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

@@d0_nothing close, it's 3.5cm. Here's the product: arcadeshock.com/collections/balltops/products/seimitsu-lb-39-clear-balltop-39mm-balltop-only-on-shaft-or-dust-cover

Every review complains about Torx screws, but I think the important point about Torx is that they don’t strip even a fraction as easily as Phillips (as you coincidentally experienced and commented on with the stick’s screws), so for something the manufacturer expects to be opened and closed numerous times, i.e. “Ultra Moddable,” Torx screws are actually a very thoughtful addition.

@EddieInzauto

Жыл бұрын

P.S. Awesome video. Haha. I also love concave buttons, and I wish I knew the practical differences between the Sanwa, Seimitsu, Hayabusa sticks and buttons.

@nightsnotover0079

Жыл бұрын

They now come with Philips.

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Obviously can only speak for myself, but the reason I call it out (and assume others did as well) is because not a lot of people have them. This is also why I made a point of calling out the specific size. Or at least I think I did?? It's been a while since I made this.. You are right though, torx is better for longevity. And that's likely why 8Bit made the decision.

Please keep the videos coming this was easily the best video on the 8BitDo Arcade Stick I've seen and really helped me understand the limits in terms of fitment. Amazing video!

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! It means a lot; I will for sure!

Nice vid! Very accessible mods and I like that you included some gameplay to round it out.

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

Great tips. I will follow these tips. Hated those buttons as a kid. They were used on everything in arcades n the UK.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad it was helpful!

Because of the nostalgia of concave buttons, I was a bit taken aback by no bat top. Concave buttons and a bat top stick is peanut butter and jelly to me. Anyway, Great Job!

@Hops_fgc

11 ай бұрын

I partially tailored the build for the video, I figured most people watching would be looking for a traditional Japanese balltop. I built a custom Happ/American arcade style stick for my own nostalgia fix

First video I watched of yours and I liked and subscribed, I hope you keep up the good work man!

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 🙏

Great video, I got one of these recently and am thinking about transplanting my sanwa buttons and seimitsu LS-33 over to it. I like the concave button mod, I may have to try that and see how it feels.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! An LS-33 should fit in there great, let me know how it turns out!

went and bought some soldering kit, so I can just connect the connector to the board, after that, most of the stick will be a lot easier to plug in, including those 8 pin arcade joystick

Nice work man!

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Just ordered parts for mine. I mainly use it for shmups and I had Seimitsu on my Virtua Stick 2 etc. But then I had to order from Japan since most parts were sold out in the Uk (I live in Sweden) So I bought Sanwa Jlf and obsc-c buttons. Bought kowals actuator (For shorter throw) and a 4lb spring just in case and a bubble smoke top 😁

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Nice picks! I've used a 4lb spring before on a jlf, the reset speed is great. If the tension is too much consider a bat top. I found the extra leverage made a nice middle ground between fast resets and resistance.

Awesome video, just bought one..

Awesome video - nice job ! Would love to see a PXN-0082 mod video. The buttons seem a bit trickier in that stick...

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, the PXN 0082, to my knowledge, comes in two variants. One has the buttons soldered to a board, and the other uses some unusual wiring. I'll consider covering it in the future 👍

You didn't show the "glue" but I expect it's threadlocker (or you really wouldn't be able to get it open with a screwdriver). In that case it's actually pretty good that they have put that level of detail/care into protecting the screw threads!

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I notice a ton of rookie mistakes when I go back and watch this video; and I didn't get the camera to focus properly on the screws. "glue" may not be the right word; specifically it's a crumbly off white sort of resin. I've seen it used as a cost saving measure in place of a proper threadlocker, not just in arcade sticks. It does the job more-or-less, but it's not a proper threadlocker like Loctite.

Looks like those Concave caps are a third party addon from arcadestock "Classic Concave SOLID Caps for SANWA DENSHI 30mm Pushbuttons"

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's exactly what they are! Thanks for letting me know I didn't make it clear enough. I really appreciate the constructive feedback while I'm still getting this channel of the ground. 👍

thanks for the video. do you have the same for the xbox 8bitdo stick? because iam going to mod that one and would appreciate info regarding that. where did you get that gameboy tshirt? looks cool!

Nice video. I've been building a couple of retro arcade sticks out of Oak. Great fun project. Where do you buy you buttons and joysticks from? Cheers

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! There are three main shops to buy from in the US. arcadeshock.com focusattack.com paradisearcadeshop.com

For an NES-themed arcade stick controller, I would stick with 2 red buttons for B and A and 6 black buttons to represent nothing because back in the '80's, the NES controller had only two red action buttons.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Neat idea, I remember my NES. Good times

hey man, thanks for the video very informative! any Idea if there's a way of running LED buttons on this?

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and thank you! For LEDs, yes and no. Officially, no. There's no pin or spot to solder a wire for "VCC" to provide power to the lights. Unofficially, sort of. It's possible to piggyback off the battery (and direct power) by soldering wires onto the side of the board the pins stick up. I've also heard of adding in a Raspberry Pi Pico as another board to control the lights. I don't know much about this, but I did find a Reddit thread talking about both these options here: www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/r29or0/vcc5v_location_on_8bitdo_arcade_stick/ Hopefully that can get you headed down the right path.

Mine was the same having excess material on the tabs holding the gate on. I didn't notice at first and almost broke a tab

I bought mine the other day. They are using regular Phillips screws now. Also no glue at all.

@sillyputtyoscar

Жыл бұрын

same with mine :)

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know! I've gotten a few comments like this so I think it's safe to say its a product wide change and not just variance

Thanks for this video. I recently bought this stick (my first) for playing shmups and was looking to install a more responsive lever - the stock feels very loose to me. I found a lot of conflicting information out there though about which levers would fit, with some people saying that you’d have to cut holes in the bottom of the case to fit some Seimitsus. Watching a few videos though, I’ve realised there seem to be different models out there - your metal base plate had a large space in it, whereas others have just a small hole where the lever sits. Can I just, check, you didn’t do any routing or filing etc to get the LS-56 to fit? And if the 56 fits, do you think an LS-40 would?

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I believe the base plate with the small hole was from the original or a very early run. Mine is exactly as it came out of the box, no modification. For the LS-40 I can do you one better than guess. I have one and can verify it fits in without issue. Just tested it 👍

@bl6799

9 ай бұрын

I have an early run with the smaller well for the lever and can confirm that an LS-56-01 bottoms out ever so slightly on the bottom of the case. Still trying to figure out a plan of action, as it can’t need more than a millimeter or so of space, as it performs fine until I put the screws back in the bottom.

Where do I purchase the buttons you used, or at least the ones very similar, including the concave tops?

nice video, one question though..are the stick meant to be loose or tight? mine was kinda spin with the lever if i make a movement with the stick

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Do you mean the default 8BitDo stick? Yes, that stick is very loose, both in the sense that it has very soft actuation and it spins easily. Most levers have some amount of spin to them, but the default on this is particularly spinny

Great vid. What stick did you use instead and where did you get that ball top??

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's a Seimitsu LS-56-01, and the ball top is a Seimitsu "LB-39 Clear Bubble Top". The top is a standard threading, so it will work on most any joystick, not just Seimitsu ones. You can find them on any of the major arcade shops sites. I bought mine from Arcade Shock. The joystick: arcadeshock.com/collections/joysticks/products/seimitsu-ls-56-01-joystick The ball top: arcadeshock.com/collections/balltops/products/seimitsu-lb-39-clear-balltop-39mm-balltop-only-on-shaft-or-dust-cover

@troynewhoff9542

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc thank you!

Yes, I'm searching like crazy for the concave button tops in yellow and I cant find any for the life of me. I've got a sanwa JLF stick and the sanwa buttons come with the stick, however?, the button tops are round and I want concave tops. Any help would be great. Thanks.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

I assume you have standard 30mm Sanwa buttons, these are what you want: arcadeshock.com/collections/pushbuttons/products/classic-concave-solid-plungers-for-sanwa-denshi-30mm-pushbuttons On the off chance you have 24mm buttons those are also on the site, look under "pushbuttons"

13:27 ~ 13:33 Hmm...I guess that IS something that someone would say after playing with their joystick...

Hi, Thanks for the video, do you have a link for the top part of the button or how do I find them? thanks

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Yup, you can find theme here at ArcadeShock: arcadeshock.com/collections/pushbuttons/products/classic-concave-solid-plungers-for-sanwa-denshi-30mm-pushbuttons

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Was wondering if I could fit a couple Nintendo button assemblies in this (like on a VS cab)...how much space is there in terms of height inside for buttons?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Not as much as you'd imagine. The case is deceptively shallow, mostly due to the two heavy plates in the bottom half for weight. If you'd like exact measurements I can take them but off the cuff, if Nintendo arcade buttons are going to fit you'll likely need to remove the weights. And that might leave the stick weirdly light. They should still fit, but those old Nintendo buttons are 27mm iirc, so the fit might be a bit off in the 8Bit's 30mm holes. If you're open to other ideas and want an arcade stick with retro parts. I've built one of these with Happ style parts and a brook board, which came out very well: retroarcadecrafts.com/collections/case-panel/products/diy-happ-competition-arcade-fight-stick-joystick-metal-case-and-acrylic-panel-big-size?variant=29415268319255 It's a very roomy case, and has 28mm holes rather than 30mm which is better suited for retro parts. It's direct from China tho, so expect long shipping times

@vorlonesque1830

Жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc I ended up ordering an enclosurevfrom all fight sticks that worked.

If I completely gut it and put new stick, buttons and a brook Pcb, can I disregard all the internal components? And can I use the stock macro buttons with the new PCB?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Obviously haven't done it myself, but from my experience with brooks and the space inside it might be a tight fit, but I think it should work. Main issues I can imagine you running into are what to do with some of the smaller buttons and knobs in the upper left. They operate directly off of the 8Bit's board, so there's no prongs or anything to run over to the Brook. So I imagine they'd either end up as buttons that don't do anything, or they'd just be left empty. The macro buttons on the right could be repurposed, though brook boards don't have macro capability. I think they'd end up having to be your start and select buttons. Because again, I'm not sure how you'd keep the existing ones functional.

Weird note but they seem to have switched to PH1 screws, or at least the one I bought that arrived Monday does. I was confused why my TR10 wasn't working until I shined a flashlight in there. Sadly I stripped the head of one of the screws holding the joystick plate and don't have anything to help me remove it so I'm SOL.

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know! I've gotten a bunch of comments letting me know about this. I've updated the pinned comment and put an update at the top of the video description as well.

@oromain

Жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc Oops, sorry for the redundancy! Hopefully the pin will put a stop to that :)

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

@@oromain no no, didn't mean it that way at all! Multiple comments helped me know this wasn't some one-off production oddity; so thank you for the input

ls-56 gang!

Can you use OBSFE-30 buttons? What's the model joystick?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Yup, OBSFE-30s will drop right in. For the joystick model do you mean the one that comes by default? It's not sold separately, so I'm not aware of what 8BitDo calls it. In the video I put in both a Sanwa JLF and a Seimitsu LS-56-01.

Any decent knife will Spyderco is the way to go 😊

Damn, good video but I've been lookin everywhere for someone talkin about putting LED buttons in this. I've upgraded everything on mine except the new spring I'm waiting on and I want LED buttons but I'm startin to think this stick can't handle that.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Questions about adding LEDs have come up before. The best information I've found so far is in this Reddit thread, but the solutions are very hack-y: www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/r29or0/vcc5v_location_on_8bitdo_arcade_stick/ It obviously has LEDs for the button indicators, so there's clearly a power source that can run them. Given it's come up a few times I'm going to look into this. If I get it figured out I'll obviously make a video about it!

@HEyZEus-tv7et

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc you're the best! I hope your research brings you better results than mine. I was thinking the same thing like splitting the power off of the ones going to the panels but haven't found the right cords to make it happen. Got that notification bell rang for you, can't wait to see that video!

spyderco para sweet!

I don't mean this as a critism, I am just curious -- why replace the stock stick at all if you bought and installed an octagonal gate? Did you simply want a square gate?

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, no worries! I know octagonal gates are a very popular upgrade, so I wanted to show how to do it. But I was also trying to cover how to change the stick out completely, and make a 5pin connector work. But yes, typically I do use square gates.

Any one have any knowledge on the Seimitsu arcade stick used? Is it better than the Sanwa JLF?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

It's a LS-56, and it's Seimitsu's closest offering to Sanwa's JLF. Better is subjective, and mostly down to taste. They're both very well made. Main differences are the LS-56 has a slightly higher spring tension (~1.2lbs vs ~0.9lbs) and it uses hinged switches that are also just a little higher tension. The LS-56 doesn't actuate as smoothly as a JLF, people who don't like it tend to describe it as a bit "sandy" feeling. So it's a trade-off between a little stiffer and more intentional movement vs the JLFs softer, smoother movement.

@zankuro14

Жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc Hi.... Many thanks! Great explanation.

Is the older version, apart from the screws, no different from the new one?

@Hops_fgc

Жыл бұрын

Not that I'm aware of. Seems to be a minor manufacturing change.

will the Seimitsu LS40 fit inside this

@Hops_fgc

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, the LS-40 fits just fine

Where did you get the concave button inserts? Are they made by sanwa?

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

They're made by Arcade Shock: arcadeshock.com/collections/pushbuttons/products/classic-concave-solid-plungers-for-sanwa-denshi-30mm-pushbuttons

@RetroRockGamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc thanks! I'm buying some, I love the old school look

Just wanted to ask if it was possible to change the case for the componenrs themselves

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I'm sorry but I don't completely follow the question. Are you asking if you can move the buttons and joystick out and put them in a different case?

@chalicethemantis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc yeah

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you could put them into most anything else. The buttons are standard 30mm snap-ins. And the joystick even has a universal mounting plate.

@chalicethemantis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc Ight! Thank you!

a question, does the arcade stick works with hayabusa? cuz looking at the height and size, it looks just right

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it fits. I've actually swapped one into mine since making this video.

@maximusZ09

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc thanks for the answer, because of the small size of the arcade stick, I am afraid the stick size will not fit, I hope I can replace the shaft if it is too short

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

@@maximusZ09 totally understandable concern. While it won't leave any extra room like a JLF, the Hayabusa absolutely fits. And yes, the shaft is replaceable. Hayabusas use the same shaft design as JLFs. So you can swap in any extended JLF shaft

@maximusZ09

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc that is really assuring, because I have planned to mod the arcade stick, especially the joystick, I feel the stock ver are quite loose for me

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

@maximusZ09 if that's your issue, you want to change the tension spring. Same story though, JLF springs will work. Default tension is a 1lb spring. Going up to a 1.5lb or 2lb spring is a good starting point. Pretty simple mod, remove the eclip on the bottom of the shaft. Do it over a box or something, those clips love to go flying off. Then the actuator should pop out on its own with the spring. Swap the default spring for your new one, put the actuator back over it. And lock it all back down with the eclip.

Weird. Mine had no glue.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

@RationalRampage: oh, weird. Thanks for letting me know!

why would you ruin a stick by taking out the square gate

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure I follow, the LS-56 has a square gate

@nucleon4499

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hops_fgc You changed the gate on the generic stick. Fight stick noobs who see your video are more likely to go for this over the more expensive option of buying a new joystick. This is bad because an octagonal gate is just going to teach them to ride the gate, thus never learning to play properly.

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

@nucleon Ah, sorry. When you said, “ruin a stick” I thought you meant the *arcade* stick. I have to disagree, though. My preference is increasingly for k-levers, which are all (basically) circle gates. So, I don’t see square gates as inherently superior. And if a single ~20 sub KZread channel not even recommending something, but just showing it is enough to convince someone; that person was going to do it no matter what. As for learning bad habits. Maybe a bit philosophical, but I see being wrong as a part of real growth. Correcting and contextualizing mistakes is important, and trying to skip every possible early mistake gets in the way of that. Disagreements aside. Thank you for commenting, I appreciate it all the same!

The real question is, is it pronounced 8bit “doo” or “dough”?

@Hops_fgc

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact! Officially it's now "do". But it was "dough" originally to sound like "Nintendo". They changed it over copyright concerns that their name was too similar, and Nintendo could sue for copying them.

@RedRanger2001

2 жыл бұрын

"doo". I got it from the 8bitdo speaker.