How LOW EFFORT Rooms Are RUINING Rec Room...
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What - 0:46
How - 1:17
Who - 3:38
Why - 4:49
When - 7:22
Uncovering Rec Room's "Costume Park" Problem
• How LOW EFFORT Rooms A...
-BillehBawb (BVR)
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use code bvrr in rec room and subscribe if you want more deep dives like this! I kinda forgot to mention in the video but this is important because it pushes actually quality rooms out of spots they could be getting visits from. also it affects the new player experience because these rooms are the first things players see when they join
@orangethefox9545
Жыл бұрын
Welp i guess i should considering other people will actually see actual good rooms with actual effort and people wont be like "oh its a kids game" when you got the good side. Once a friend on discord told me that they left rec room due to games being childish. Speaking of which children is a big hit in rec room besides that meta is removing underage kids. Kids are a big hit in rec room it makes some of the community and with it being cross platform kids have more access not to mention back then those horrible ads. People can also see what kids find intresting such as youtube having a big hit with some topic that possibly have millions of videos for kids. A rec room person can take one scroll finding the things that kids like which allows them to build something quick and attract thousands of vists and subscribers due to most spaltering SUBSCRIBE almost everywhere. Costumes are a big item in rec room there are alot of them on the invention store and knowing that you can be the characters hooks the kid or possibly they just use costumes as they are quite cheap mostly free and use it as advertising In conclusion its mainly using the target audience (which in this case kids) favourite things or things they know as a sense of persuading them to play and then sinces kids dont know mcuh some subscribe or in fact rooms require you to subscribe to pass so its alot of crazy BS but simplifyed is just: Kid's are big group in rec room Room Creator Uses Known Knowledge On What Kids Like Quickly Makes The Room Using Inventions Blast The Subscribe To Creator Button Everywhere And Wait for Visits And Subscribes.
@CopiousStarch
Жыл бұрын
BVR gonna be completely honest 4:44 you should probably censor the pfps as well I recognized a certain someone with "official" in their name instantaneously Also at 6:30 I can verify this I was originally going to work with a promoter (infact its the official guy) until I realized how scummy he kinda was, and yeah, most promoters have no talent in making whatsoever
@walleye-smoker6843
Жыл бұрын
Do a video on the Potato guy Hacking peoples events 😎
@buhubuavr2211
Жыл бұрын
I just use Music Inventions or AI and just Some Ciurcits that i cant do.
@brianhogg358
11 ай бұрын
True 😊
These are the exact people that took FULL advantage of the “player is subscribed” chip rec room tried to add despite everyone saying that it was an awful idea that would be abused.
@barry3834
Жыл бұрын
whats that chip I havent played for over a year
@Jeb.07
Жыл бұрын
@@barry3834 Literally a chip that can output whether or not a player is subscribed to the room owner. It can be used to FORCE people to subscribe to access perks or just content in general.
@notsquarezum2858
Жыл бұрын
@@Jeb.07 i wonder why they made it since rewards for sub wasn't allowed.
@kw1436
Жыл бұрын
@@Jeb.07 They need to remove he chip
@Jeb.07
Жыл бұрын
@@notsquarezum2858 They were expecting people to only use it for minor bonuses or nods to subscribers, maybe. That’s my guess
this is honestly a massive issue rn. im very glad that rec room is fixing it.
As a creator who tries to make high quality content for my subscribers, I've always found these people annoying, and yes you are 100% right about EVERYTHING in this video. I've encountered many of these creators who brag their ass off about subs when they make some of the worst rooms in this game. I've also been offered by some of these promoters/people who buy rooms that actually begged me to sell my room to them and it's sad. I imagine this is what rec room did not originally imagine the game to be, so I'm hella glad they're fixing this.
@Austman22
Жыл бұрын
Yess, agreed
@notpolorr
Жыл бұрын
dude its the worst thing seeing someone with the entire seller swag then looking at their portfolio to see horrible maps with thousands and millions of visits. Its funny how the people who make the worst rooms brag the most. Its generally hard to make money on rec room and try to create actually good content.
@CellSquaredCorp
Жыл бұрын
I make one popular “build your own game” and I get these 7 year olds bribing me with subscribers and gift boxes if I gave them the room. I didn’t take the offer and I am so glad I didn’t. I got way more in return with updates and community outreach then just getting some little kids to buy me some stuff
@wonderwonder895
Жыл бұрын
No he is not
@sandrahughes4117
Жыл бұрын
@@CellSquaredCorp yo im a huge fan of build ur owns they the only rooms idrc if they use inventions but also what build ur own game did u make i'd like to play is it backrooms darkside [srry for terrible english]
The worst part too is that I’ve seen these types of rooms in the hot tab, makes finding good games to play in videos a lot more difficult
1. OMG this has been a issue for so long thank you for talking about it!!! 2. Thanks for showing a contest room I made at (3:44) with all the drama around it I'm happy it's being used for something! 💖
Another episode of BVR literally spitting facts. But seriously, this is a massive issue, it seems although Rec Room is promoting these obvious low effort cash grab games. A staff member in the Rec Room discord stated that their goal is to not delete nor promote it (Obviously I could be wrong). I find it frustrating that still even after nearly a year of the costume maps being promoted through the new tab; nearly nothing has been done to get rid of this. As a very small creator it feels useless to even attempt to make a game when people can just do this. I’m glad that it’ll be fixed soon tho. there’s my little rant
@jazse
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but why does literally every single Rec Room advertisement include these rooms? If they really didn’t want to endorse or promote these types of rooms, then why are they making ads on them?
I just clicked on the video and I'm still watching the ads but I already literally started clapping and couldn't suppress the smile on my face screaming "Finally someone talks about it!" Thank you, BVR.
It's really a shame .As a legitimate creator I see my own inventions used in these rooms time and time again, and it really is sad to see.
I wanna wish you a merry Christmas from the bottom of my heart.
I feel exactly the same as I have recently noticed I have stopped playing rr as much as I used to due to the low effort rooms taking up so much space in the new tab. It makes it way harder for me to find any fun games and overall ruining the experience.
Thank goodness someone is finally talking about this!!!
thank god someone mentioned this main reason im getting bored of recroom its just people hungry for tokens not actually creating it for the community
Similar to this there is a large issue of people labeling their inventions wrong on purpose (mostly dorm skins) so you keep on seeing dorm skins in the weapons hashtag and other sections they aren’t supposed to be in. I think I’ve been seeing this problem since the dorm anchor came out.
One thing they could do is to make it so that when a room has more than 5 or so public inventions not made by one of the co-owners, the room doesn't appear on the new tab.
"And you better believe I had to walk through the SAME DAMN SUBSCRIBE BUTTONS" made me laugh so hard each time great video
Hey there! Just wanted to say I really appreciate you bringing attention to this sort of thing. Me and Gecko are always talking about the state of the Rec Room game tabs and how disappointed we are. It's a shame that so many great rooms are no longer promoted or visited because of rooms and people like this. I'm really looking forward to this algorithm change they're working on. And I'm happy to see Rec Room is taking some action. So many amazing rooms are being buried under all this low effort schmuck. Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the community!!
Preach BVR preach...it is frustrating to see these "games" doing better than much more high quality rooms which have had a lot of effort put into them. Poppy Playtime Chapter One is literally below these huggy hangout rooms..
Looks like it's time to descend into madness yet again... Thanks BVR...
I love your content keep up the amazing work BVR
@MikeRRVS
Жыл бұрын
Jo
I’ve also seen a player named “Taconic”, who is mentioned in the video, buying out rooms, then turning them into nightmares of there former selves.
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@pineappleplus
Жыл бұрын
Disney Land Fr
I can confirm promoters do exist. I had some guy come up to me in a grand opening event asking to promote it so there's definitely a market for it.
I’m glad to see that they’ve really worked on this and you barely see any, the issue is now is the ‘build your own’ whatnot.
ain't this that one youtuber who used to upload to the channel BillehBawb and if this is the man him self well good luck with you're new channel.
IVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS FOR SO LONG
It breaks my heart to see people like me and my fellow inventors being neglected while people like this steal all the clout just by being lazy. I try to only use around 1-3 inventions in my rooms, these kids just slap them wherever they can. These types of people need to be stopped, and banned.
I very highly agree with everything BVR says in this video especially sense me being a high-quality creator just make me see these rooms all the time just so ridiculous but yes BVR is super right in this video!
I'm creating a rec room game and this gives me an idea of what not to do. Thanks!
With the promoting concept,it’s true. In contest maps, promoters are normally hired to make events for the maps they are co-owner on. This has happened on multiple, if not most,contest maps that have gained a place. Not all of them,but a fairly large amount.
It's crazy that one of these rooms got featured top 10
Yeah i see these types of room all the time on the new tab in the watch and it's so annoying, they are nothing but terrible low effort rooms that profit off of other peoples work
He posted! Whooo!
Hello bvr I have spent around 2 hours of my life working on a dorm room customisation and I made most of it orange cubes so I would like you to see it (if you want) note: i didn’t do walls ceiling or floor because I didn’t have enough ink 🙂
I saw post on Reddit and one of the devs said that they where working on something behind the scenes
The crazy thing is there is a "promoter " that has co owner in a toom I made because they said they will give 15k Tokens and promote my game and the persone that bought co owner in my game is one of the people that he is are talking about
one of the few actually chill and over the age of 5 years old person who plays Rec Room has appeared on my recommended, truly an act of the KZread gods
My maps are similar to these (excluding the childish horror costumes and the cheer/subscribe forcing) because I don’t know how to use the maker pen *at all* , but I’m getting better at it. I NEED A MAKER PEN CLASS PLEA- (and they aren’t republished wanted to point that out)
I relate with this, i tried to explain to a creator of one of these rooms that they had so much potential in building, and this is what they make? After that i got blocked and banned from the room lmao
most creators who do it are absolute unit can't lie mate
@Mr.WorldWide.-.e
Жыл бұрын
Depthzy!
@Depthzy
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.WorldWide.-.e you alright mate
What's really the worst is that these rooms are most likely targeted towards users under the age of 13.
Basically everything you said in the video is true. Speaking on the promotion topic, it’s definitely very true; but some creators do help the smaller creators with the building or genuinely do just like the map and help out the smaller creators. But sadly I don’t believe any of the builders you mentioned in this video would do that. You really were spot on. The fact that these builders brag to others about there subs and know they only get them from this exploitation is sad. Also speaking on them making money, the main creator you were talking about is not even allowed to cash out because of their low quality rooms. Some of the other creators you mentioned choose not to cash out instead they use them in the game.
@theeliteone24
Жыл бұрын
This being said there is a lot more to be said on the topic
I know one of these people has stolen circuits from my room multiple times, and while confronted multiple times I was pushed off
Me and my friends are always talking about these but atleast rr will fix... hopefully
It drives me insane if my rooms aren’t high quality, and I don’t end up uploading them.
I'm currently making an exploration dreamcore anesthetic and I feel a bit discouraged when I see theses low levels rooms. Hopefully they fix this soon so people who are actually trying to make good rooms.
An easy-ish way to stop the subscribe button thing is to make it like the free gifts button~ make it so that you can only place ONE button
A month ago I saw a friend of mines in ^costumes in a park and after I joined him, the entire room was made with only inventions and it was popular theres always like 5 people every time I join and had like 50k visits
4:45 weird thing is I know one of those people, there profile picture is them in the dark with glasses and black hair, yea they spam inv me to there rooms and events over and over, the weird thing is I didn't friend them, they friended me. edit: I believe the reason for them friending me is because I got a game that got onto the new tab and I got a flood of friend requests, among though people like this person and a few others friended me and begged me for co owner and moderator.
This is funnyer then the avg slat video
As an creator on rec room I’m ashamed by this (I make backrooms and like 3 rag doll rooms with different people and they are different from eachother)
Bvr I really wanna learn how to make a map on rec room how do I start?
I hated this issue since a few months ago
0:09 BVR:3 The 2 at the end: Am I joke to you?
6:16 all the people who build this kinds of rooms have promoters I even used to be one of them they tend to have multiple but they get mostly get paid by being a co in the room
As someone who uses inventions, I hate this as well. I do not have the skill to create certain models. I do not have the proper hardware to import clean audio. I do not have the patience to create a single model multiple times if I need it. Sure it may be low effort at times, but at least the rooms are original. This stuff is ridiculous, and the RR staff needs to do something about it.
Never expected the rec room co owner black market
new Code Of Conduct: No costume park rooms
For a person who has encountered 3 people who made some bad rooms those rooms suck. Some even have said that their rooms are original and even said that one of the inventions which was mine said they made it by themselves which was not true it's horrible that those kind of people are taking credit for things that they didn't build nor either trying to build something original.
I spend so much time building a room then the new tab shows low quality rooms
the sad thing is that some of the owners have SELLER SWAG which really sucks.
Just wanted to say you were on the money with room promoters. I was looking through the community page and ranting about the quality of these rooms and saw one of the creators literally had "Room Promoter" in their bio. They also had a ton of subscribers. It's very disappointing to see how users abuse the room tabs to spew out low effort slop.
I recognised one of the profiles and I can confirm after knowing them for like 3 months that they definitely know what their doing.
The names of the chapters in the video be lookin like the poster in the first grade classroom
I am a young KZreadr, and I am just wondering, how are you able to record your voice?, Are you able to do that with a VR headset?
My friend on recroom is a mod or co owner of one of his rooms, the room is called speeding wall.
I do use some inventions for rooms but even I would NEVER republish rooms when I can buy tokens
I was friends with a co owner on one of those rooms once,turns out they weren't very friendly
this problem is always prevalent in basically any game with community created content
I once had a friend in rec room . He invited me to a skibiti land game . Everything was an invention. He probably invited me 40 times and I kept denying and he kept inviting me . I told him to stop and he kept inviting . He said he was doing it for the money and subs .
I’m working on a costume party but without as much as possible 0 inventions
Ya Ik the co-owner of the room I worked with him for 2 weeks then he took me to a “top gun map” and I looked at the inventions and it was all inventions
goofy ahh powerpoint presentation rooms 💀
"Back in my day, I had to walk through the 3 same damn massive subscribe buttons to get to fun costume vibe park!"
1:25 NAHH THAT SWINGING BOAT WAS STOLEN FROM SIX FLAGS💀 (Not a RR game called that I mean the real life Six Flags that I live closest to)
If only I knew how to use circuits, I could make the room I've dreamed of
@Y_Spiky_T
Жыл бұрын
maybe tutorials would help,but tbh it would take alot of learning to make something good
This may become a HUGE problem down the line. Many peoples genuine games that they want to title their games maybe similar to the new tab clones. Imagine 5 years from now, even the name “jajdiwndosjdn” will be taken by a bot. its gonna get bad soon.
If you’re reading this and like costume vibez rooms but not these then I recommend 3OAK’s room
Now I finally understand why the new tab is so messed up! I've been playing Rec Room for 3 years now and when I saw this happening, I didn't get it why only these kind of rooms would be on the new tab the whole time. Also I never understood why people would like these "simple and low effort" rooms (no hate though). Of course, people have other opinions and they enjoy different games more than others. But what I'm trying say, is that it feels so unfair that new and old creators almost don't get a chance to show the rooms they've made... I honestly thought that people were not making any other rooms than these "simple" rooms. But after watching this video I come to the conclusion, that this is not the case and I finally understand what's going on. I'm glad to hear that the devs are looking for a solution. And I would like to thank you for sharing this information, otherwise I would not have ever known! Thank you! 👍🏻
Reminds me of the time chat sim got filled with low effort servers that didn't even try yet expect alot of members.
i feel bad for you having to walk through those 'same dam three subscribe buttons' i really do
My Parks Are Different From The Low-Efforts: 1: I Have 1 Or 0 Creator Buttons (Henceforth, Not Forcing People To Subscribe) 2: My Parks Are Simple (Henceforth, Making It Easy To Navigate) 3: My Park's Prices Are Very Low (Henceforth, Making It Easier To Purchase Items) 4: My Parks Are As Fresh As Possible (Henceforth, The Parks Get Updates More Than The Low Effort Rooms) 5: I Include Some Toys For Players To Interact (Only A Limited Quantity, Like 4 Buggies, Some Confetti Guns, A Microphone (If You Have A Microphone) And Some Other Things)
@Nitr0h
Жыл бұрын
still a costume park
Rest in peace BillehBawb
Mainly they get high visit maps and i heard from builders that they buy and sell maps for large token amounts also i personally know some of these creators because they have tried to buy my maps in the past and ive heard they have made upwards of millions of tokens
the fact that I got a rec room ad… XD
I stopped playing rec room due to those children making these rooms, every time me and my friends wanna play something in rec room we only play either games made my people we subscribed or made my friends
I believe that I used to talk to the creator before he made his first room, once he got popular he changed and never stopped publishing and publishing to get more and more subscribers...
Do you know one of the guys that do this has "remember to follow the code of conduct" in his bio when he doesn't even follow the code of conduct
Yo BVR... I GOT THE CUBEEE😲😲😲
Is it okay that I want to make a photo shoot room?
I feel the same about these rooms as i feel about annoying, screaming children. Annoying to see.
one of these creators tried to buy one of my maps lmao
I'm thinking of making a fair or theme park. Should I ??
This is horrible for people who actually put effort into their rooms because then they're just gonna get lost buried under those republished rooms no matter how much time someone put into them
theory: you said that the main reason that they are making these rooms is because they want subscribers and don't really care about the tokens. I half agree with this, but i mainly think the reason that there arent many keys is cause they're lazy, i know it sounds dumb but even with me sometimes i will not fully monetize a room because i don't want to sit there typing in multiple keys. it is genuinely easier to make 2 keys and clone a room a bunch of times than to write out new keys every room. You would still technically be making just as much money while putting in less effort.
Who need CV1 and CV2 or high quality when all you need is just costumes
what about buildyourowns? please respond
May rec room have to do a bot for unpublishing rooms that no one play with or has more inventions than some amount of inventions
well considering it's very similar in accessibility and ease of use to roblox when it comes to creating rooms, it makes sense.
Seems kind of like the Unity problem where the bar to create is lower and the flood of games and asset flips are getting worse.