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Renata's metapassive : each team only has 4 bans.
@theoverlord8207
2 жыл бұрын
Lol my last few games have been like this
@jesteredGesture
2 жыл бұрын
Every new release champ recieves this passive
@onbushshifting4000
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesteredGesture not Lilia
@rickmaior9556
2 жыл бұрын
@@onbushshifting4000 nor rell
@joaosantos-uj9uw
Жыл бұрын
@@onbushshifting4000 lillia was very good on her first months, but then they gutted her clear speed which was what made her good
Riot next patch: "We were surprised to see that giving Renata a better Zilean ult on a basic ability made her very strong"
@rubenlarocca
2 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
@dizzyheads
2 жыл бұрын
Technically not a better Zilean R It's more like a single target Kindred R since it prevents death and doesn't "Kill you" become untargetable, cleansing then healing
@JKMT
2 жыл бұрын
riot is just stupid, not even surprised anymore
@JKMT
2 жыл бұрын
renata, has slow root stun taunt revive shield attack speed steriods, imagine that and say we don't think our champions have overloaded kits WTF?????????
@dativo1631
2 жыл бұрын
@@JKMT same as lulu but no revive, instead polymorphh, intresting right ?
I really wanna see a renata ulting a fullbuild aphelios that holds infernum in a 5v5 teamfight
@elenakawa6450
2 жыл бұрын
I had crescendum in hand and killed half of my team in no time, I think it's better than infernum since your teammates stay close to you most of the time
@heyimv3833
2 жыл бұрын
the bruh moment when Aphelios REALLY 1 vs 9
@kylosor
2 жыл бұрын
400 years' worth of Rito
@EruCoolGuy
2 жыл бұрын
now imagine renata making her entry in the game before aphelios, in order to have renata and the most broken character ever made by riot in the same game.
Meanwhile blitz w; movement speed then slows
@inciknight
2 жыл бұрын
yes because blitz Q is literally one of the most game warping and defining basic abilities lmao, its to be expected that he has some weakness *somewhere*, if you misuse your W in lane you get punished
@charon4160
2 жыл бұрын
It also gives attack speed
@johnt5525
2 жыл бұрын
@@inciknight malph.zilean r Morgana q etc
@kentclark1969
2 жыл бұрын
Because you literally could turn the tides with a well-landed Q.
@johnt5525
2 жыл бұрын
@@kentclark1969 there are stronger abilities though
Riot: revive is strong af. Lets take it out from aatrox kit. Also riot: lets make a champion that can revive an entire team and another champion that can delay your death and if you score a takedown you don't die.
@wooof8575
2 жыл бұрын
And they did nerf akshan revive mechanic cuz it was too broken then, which wasn't long ago. But hey they've 200 years experience in game design so...
@RainbowTactic
2 жыл бұрын
Having that on Aatrox was way too strong. But I can agree with you that Akshan is a dumb as fuck champion.
@jesusmascorro6175
2 жыл бұрын
@@RainbowTactic revive is a strong mechanic by itself. I don't understand why riot try to force it into the game
@milanesadearsenico
2 жыл бұрын
It was strong for Aatrox, a thing he didn't need and just was there to make old mains happy
@RainbowTactic
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesusmascorro6175 i like that they made it more accessible tbh. Having it exclusively for one champion is when it becomes an issue. Especially on a bruiser with high health, damage, and healing like Aatrox. And Akshan’s is dumb in how he’s an adc who can be in a solo lane and is one of the tankiest adcs.
I know it's a Renata video but 6:38 that lee sin kick is beautiful
@rubenlarocca
2 жыл бұрын
where does such healing from lee sin came from??
@eknem1524
2 жыл бұрын
@@rubenlarocca Death's Dance I guess
@4thsin098
2 жыл бұрын
Triumph heal from 2 kills and 1 assist
@meowie2140
2 жыл бұрын
It's literally just a normal kick flash wdym
@Bill-dg1se
2 жыл бұрын
@@meowie2140 so something normal and simple cant be beautiful?
what's crazy about the w is that even if you don't revive from it you or your teammate'll still get more time to deal damage which is really relevant in a support role
@thejestor9378
2 жыл бұрын
Too bad I usually wind up with teammates who waste by using that grey health to run and then die instead of fighting.
League community: “akshan having a revive on his W seems kinda op doesn’t it? Nobody likes this.” Riot literally 2 champions later: *gives champ a revive on W*
@raithdoom
2 жыл бұрын
A conditional revive that is single target is a lot better than than a full team revive late game her revive works just like a heal or shield that keeps a carry alive
@kindrogue5586
2 жыл бұрын
My main problem with her revive is it's not a revive, they just don't die, so anything working with killing doesn't work, urgot ult? tough luck, you wanted triumph heal, hell naw, gold? naah.
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
2 жыл бұрын
aatrox crying in the corner
@raithdoom
2 жыл бұрын
@@kindrogue5586 you don’t get that with ga or zilean ult also any overkill dmg is transferred over and seeing as how most assassins have the dmg to kill a target 2-3 times while even at times it’s only good if you have a guaranteed kill in under a second Another thing to consider is that a traditional enchanter has enough healing and/or shielding to do the same thing without conditions karma soraka and lulu will be able to keep a carry alive far longer than a single revive can
@rubenarroyo5147
2 жыл бұрын
@@raithdoom the issue is it's not creative and is a very frustrating mechanic, and also it's just stupid to put revives on basic spells. it's clearly too game changing to not be on an ultimate spell. but i'm not surprised at this point, riot has been extremely uncreative in their kits besides maybe aphelios being the last one
This video makes me realize that Renata fixes the bad positioning of your team, and instead of being a disadvantage, she makes the bad positioning an advantage
@liyuu7033
2 жыл бұрын
also punishes bad positioning on enemy hard
@anodos_
Жыл бұрын
like in her lore
The final clip. Thanks for that…. The Jinx with GA, the synergy is wild…
@pinkymejia7089
2 жыл бұрын
Is new to you? try zilean ult
@vonguyenkhoa7836
2 жыл бұрын
Zilean and sion need time to revive bro
@huuphatnguyen604
2 жыл бұрын
@@vonguyenkhoa7836 that's an actual good thing for them (probably not sion). Not having a statis affects the revive heavily, due to overkilling damage everywhere
It doesn´t matter how useless you were in the game after minute 30 any Ult you hit with Renata is Game winning. What´s better than cc on enemies? A cc that makes them damage each other
@pittayayas
2 жыл бұрын
Also dont forget 100% attack speed buff on the enemy. Meaning even a useless Kayle or Vayne will shredd their team
@milanesadearsenico
2 жыл бұрын
As most supports are based on utility without gold too...?
@trn1446
2 жыл бұрын
@@milanesadearsenico That's another level of utility though lol
@milanesadearsenico
2 жыл бұрын
@@trn1446 how? CC, a stat buff and big aoe R for control
@MrDonJuanquis
2 жыл бұрын
@@pittayayas it also helps to shatter crown on mages before your team does dmg, make your opponents waste the ruined king passive on themselves, ashe slow their own team, etc
One thing to realize is that her ult isn't a CC if you only hit one champ. Had a fed enemy Master Yi dive 3 of us under turret by himself, so in desperation I unleashed my ult. Well yeah, turns out he still auto-targets enemy champions if his allies or allied minions aren't around, and the Berserk grants him extra attack speed. As I stared at my grey screen after his easy triple, I could hear DJ Khalid in the background...."Congratulations. You played yourself".
Dobby really likes this first song, huh😂
@Guendison
2 жыл бұрын
sometimes it hits me different at different times
@Jangz_
2 жыл бұрын
I like it too
Let's all appreciate Dobby making a video for a champion that thats gonna be permabanned. Thank you Dobby!
@ApocalypticFart
2 жыл бұрын
Believe me when i say i will never ban Renata, not because i think she's weak or unworthy, it's the opposite, she feels strong but not overpowered. At least her revive has a condition and doesn't bring back 4 teammates with full hp. I'm happy riot can release a somewhat balenced champion again with good lore and voicelines...
@Whyismy
2 жыл бұрын
@@ApocalypticFart its not the revive thats strong, its the ramping AS and ramping movement speed attached to it that resets per kill
@yoshi596
2 жыл бұрын
@@ApocalypticFart If you don't think Renata is overpowered, you also think that release samira and aphelios was totally fine.
@raithdoom
2 жыл бұрын
@@yoshi596 if you think renata is overpowered you probably think asol needed those nerfs she is strong but only in the right hands she’s not much of a problem if you actually pay attention to what she’s doing
@raithdoom
2 жыл бұрын
@@ApocalypticFart glad someone else thinks a single revive is better than a whole team revive
The hardest part about playing Renata is actually getting the chance to play her on any mode that isn't Blind Pick, hahah. Great video! :)
Even though the revive is the most outstanding part of her w but the pure attack speed and movement speed buff the ability provide is pretty insane too which lot of people overlooks
So much valuable information in one video. Instant subscribe for me! Keep up the great work!
gracias Dobby tus videos son de gran ayuda!
Love your videos man. always informative.
Dobby!! I love your videos and every time you upload. By the way, can you make a new video on Zeri because she got mini reworked and goes a crit build now so I would like to take more notes from your video ^-^
Great video, really explain well a lot of stuff. Time to suscribe.
thx dobby from france love you ! Want to see you in LCK
"Renatas kit is the most OP weve seen so far" oh boy coming from dobby, looks like its gonna be a fun few weeks out on the rift 👍
@Roaringdawn
2 жыл бұрын
Idk of the man's heard of viego gwen or akshan. Love them all but pretty sure their kits are a little worse
@m-mori
2 жыл бұрын
@@Roaringdawn No fing way is Gwen any worse than just alone, Rens w. Her w is by far in the top three of the most broken abilities.
@wolhaiiik5387
2 жыл бұрын
@@Roaringdawn yea I agree, typical ppl forgot how champs like zoe aphelios gwen and samira had absurdly broken kits.
@Roaringdawn
2 жыл бұрын
@@m-mori it's an overreaction like everyone else. Yes it's powerful but if u look at Gwen's whole kit and Renata's whole kit gwen has far more in it that she didn't need. Overloaded means added features that are just extra bells and whistles that didn't need to be part of the kit just makes them more powerful for no reason like Renata's revive mechanic but besides that Renata doesn't have anything that you would call overloaded in any way shape or form. Gwen on the other hand the way her pasive just procs no joke 27 times with one decent combo her E resets and her litteral Xin ultimate gives her far more stuff she didn't need in her kit but did get over Renata.
@Roaringdawn
2 жыл бұрын
@@wolhaiiik5387 not gonna lie while Renata's w is completely bull that is also where her entire power budget went to. Compared to champions I just mentioned above the only extra she has is the revive mechanic. I've listed some of the other stuff someone like gwen has in terms of parts she definitely didn't need to be a good kit but they gave it anyway. And honestly while Zoe has a good amount of stuff in her kit nothing really screams like she didn't need any of it besides her W summoner pickup that is the only thing I find an overloaded part of her kit the rest all makes sense. It's powerful and super annoying and hard to balance burst but it isn't an extra feature tagget on for no reason. I do agree on samira though.
just clutched a game against gigafed yi with well-timed renata ult, what a good day
seeing this just fills me with joy, my decision to quit league 4 months ago was the right decision
Eventually there will be a champions who's ultimate will just be like Renata's but single target and quicker and it will just force an enemy to use their ult towards their nearest teammate
@churchofroxyism3039
2 жыл бұрын
Don't give riot ideas please
@kenadams216
2 жыл бұрын
and it will also be a basic ability (maybe passive at this point tbh)
@guifdcanalli
2 жыл бұрын
the next void champ will certainly control minds
@Blythe985
2 жыл бұрын
@@guifdcanalli I really look forward to her big time tbh. Void monster champion? Yes sir gimme gimme
Enemy Yi and his teams starts engaging. Renata G's Ult: Go yeet!
Never knew you could ult flash. That's good to know!
i find it amusing that there was this brief movement of people pushing her W as not being too good, bashing anyone saying anything different. It puts a smile on my face knowing that they were totally wrong.
@skylerfreeman1173
2 жыл бұрын
If you were playing another support would your ally have needed to be revived in the first place?? Janna. Lulu. Soraka? Lol
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
2 жыл бұрын
@@skylerfreeman1173 yes, they would since you would do less damage, have less cc, and probably less utility after 6
Late but mechanic with ult. U can bind someone with q, r and push them back when the r hits them. Idk how useful it would be, but pretty dope.
once used her q to push a ww right as he was in my face ulting. felt so good.
that second song is one of my favorites
Not to forget the drake/baron steal potential
@BobTheTesaurus
2 жыл бұрын
that would only work in low elo, as you can still use smite when Renata has ulted you, and it doesnt give her the kill. Any halfway decent jungler can prevent Renata from ever Baron/Drake stealing by just saving smite
The Zed pingpong between Lee and Renata at 7:45 is so satisfying.
You pretty much laid down all there is to it, nice video
Kinda happy to see one of my move ! (I'm the Zac ! :P) 4:05
Remove Aatrox's revive just to bring it back on Renata. I love Riot's logics
Impressive, in every unexpected 2v3 there's always another teammate to help, you barely see this in low elo
@emanuelevigo9864
2 жыл бұрын
I'll correct you, you NEVER see this in low elo :(
Thank you very much!
Is that 200 years of collective gaming design?
I was waiting this.
dobby you might not see this but i got an S on my first game on reneta cuz of your video lol thanks
Her w feels like old tahm w - an ability with so much utility it's crazy
Feels like the Demon Slayer Entertainment arc where the 2 demon siblings are cursing at each other before the inevitable demise
I love how everybody in the west considered her balanced when she's clearly op
@mckazoo8766
2 жыл бұрын
@Gorgon it was a bunch of support mains trying to compare soraka healing to Renata w, it was also mostly people who watched KZread videos saying she's balanced.
@ernestofernandez1459
2 жыл бұрын
actually find her pretty balanced, i've fucked every single one i've meet, her kit has very low range and hight cold downs, still i think they should remove the revive after an assist and make the actuall revive a little bit more lasting, like yorik ult used to be or something.
@skylerfreeman1173
2 жыл бұрын
@@ernestofernandez1459 It's funny and easy to say Renata broken but if you were playing another support, would your ally have died and needed a revive in the first place??? And that revive is NOT saving them if they're caught out lol 😆
@domengrabrijan8941
2 жыл бұрын
@Gorgon your wrong
4:10 Ah yes, the famous NISQY LFT and PatateVolante from KR Challenger !
You can also hide the R if you use it during your Q
@WelfareCenter
2 жыл бұрын
Nice info to know when its a permaban champion :)
That stopwatch interaction is going away 100%
W is pretty op The ult is extremely situational that ranges from int to waste to good to super good
Quit league a few years ago, can't even bother to imagine what it's like to get back into it.
Who thought revive was such an OP mechanic. We literally just remove chemdrake soul because it broke the game sheesh
@arinolagrenade7443
2 жыл бұрын
in 10 Renata games I've had I only successfully revived 3 people, all matches we were ahead. it doesn't give you 2 HP bars or a tryndamere ult, it just stop death if you get a kill or assist. like how you could get revived at 10 HP then die right after from a random skill shot. also stream blackout by Britney💖
@Xertuce
2 жыл бұрын
@@arinolagrenade7443 True. Played her a few games and tbh the buff is already so useful that the revive is not needed, it's just a bonus to encourage to be aggresive and to get kills.
@inciknight
2 жыл бұрын
chemtech drake was removed because the camouflage zones provided a huge advantage to winning teams. the soul was basically useless, as was the revive.
@kentclark1969
2 жыл бұрын
The chemdrake was OP for its camouflage zone. It's literally no way back for the losing team as they would just get picked on more easily.
I can´t play league on PC anymore because of my potato computer, but I´m playing Wild Rift. Hopefully she will be released there, looks very fun.
Yesterday enemy Renata ulted our fed Senna with elder buff... Was fun :)
Watching that Irelia engage at around 3:55 again.
She is pretty much engage/disengage/enchater support with a revive
Dobby do you plan to make some wild rift vidoes?
I was waiting the Zac video :(
"w is renata's identity" a hallarious discription, though I can see how it's true nevertheless.
@teemo8247
2 жыл бұрын
I don't that was a joke lol, champs are designed to have their identity. Such as Teemo's traps, Udyr Stances etc...
@gabrielbaieel8073
2 жыл бұрын
To me, her identity is her ult. If they rework her W to be the old hextech soul and not giving full life, then i will say its balanced.
you give me an idea to make her with full cooldown, damage doesnt matter, survival and partner is 2nd priority, i can make her really tanky with pretty much of ability haste. thanks for the video, i make my own meta now.
Little fun Thing I found Out you can even Push away Yone during His r Cast, that way He can Hit nothing
You can flash then Q, but can you start Q and then flash to extend it?
renata the only champ that make you lose a teamfight when your team is all fed,three times in a row
Are you gonna upload the zac video too with english subtitles ?
@LoLDobby
2 жыл бұрын
Sure I'll upload it
Try building staff of flowing water, Ardent censer, everfrost, nashor tooth, mejai, rabadon.
in diamond I play her as full tank, on support role.... locket, frozen heart, abyssal, its good
And yet... Aatrox having a revive on his ult was overpowered
best Pyke counter Imo. I also like playing her midlane with AP items like Luden's, her scalings are definitely nice, and E makes you win every trade
@inciknight
2 жыл бұрын
If you want a champion that feels similar to Renata mid, play Seraphine. Renata is abysmal with AP items (look at any stats website)
@DevourerDragons
2 жыл бұрын
@@inciknight I think her AP-scalings are fine on their own. And never will I play pseudo-reworked Sona.
Is about time a sup had an overloaded kit
I'm honestly surprised the revive from akshan isn't added to her ult, and no true dommage too .... tss tss riot, it's never gonna work
once when i was playing kai'sa adc my gp with renata R killed me since he was doing 500 per auto crit ;-;
She is amazing in team play. In solo q yeah not so much. Your adcs dont follow up or just straight up run away with w on them. Better pick another enchanter that is always consistent no matter what team you have. Like Sona or Nami.
@nitram.9621
2 жыл бұрын
Lol no.
@NakiYarou
2 жыл бұрын
@@nitram.9621 maybe it's just matter of time as people catch up on how to play with her, but on lower elo where i hang out, she didnt really seem that oppresive, and im sure it's 99% because people just cant seem to use her properly, at least yet. but as the guy above said, if you cannot capitalize on her W well, renata seems really weak, and thats what happens in most cases with her on low elo.
@nitram.9621
2 жыл бұрын
@@NakiYarou i mean taking low elo as a benchmark doesnt really work. League balancing team has been doing that for ages and we can agree on the fact that it is not working
@NakiYarou
2 жыл бұрын
@@nitram.9621 Im just saying thats what most people will expirence, in the end if she'll be too strong on high end she will get nerfed, but honestly im not impressed so far.
with renata you can Q flash if you fast
Lulu meets Sona and Zilean. The Champ. Renata ult is a Better Sona ult, Renata W is a Better Zilean ult + Lulu shild on the Same skill.
@inciknight
2 жыл бұрын
but it's not lulu shield? you mean lulu's W? (that doesn't grant a shield btw) plus, why compare sona and renata ult? they both have their own use cases, and also, sona is one of the best champs in the game currently so why even complain lmao
@monstergarou3848
2 жыл бұрын
@@inciknight because he's a league player and thinks everything in binary, context be damned
Do enemies deal less damage to other enemies when they're affected with glacial?
They should perhaps change her W revive to be something closer to Sions passive, so perhaps after getting a kill the 3 second life timer resets. Allowing the carry to have the chance of dishing out damage even after getting initially burst down. (Or y'know, atleast not have it as a potential Zilean ult on a 24 sec cooldown without CD built)
@lovelyyolk9066
2 жыл бұрын
Then the champ is trash.
honestly it's only her w, if it was just a steroid that would be fine but it keeps them alive for a couple seconds unless they kill someone and just say "wow that bleeding sure has stopped"
Thank you
Renata when using her W: You will not kill my ally!
i find the hardest part of the character is that even if you make a good play your team mate will not know what to do with it
@almightygod87
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, all the games I played so far my ADC just stands there for a sec, realizes that they're still alive and THEN try to fight lol
@DEADSTARZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@almightygod87 bro ong thats it
Will aatrox get a revive back on his now as reviving is a norm ability
can u dodge the R with flash forward
Range Leona passive E and passive of swain Zilean ultimate Standard shield and slow of support Better version of Maokai and Nami ultimate thanks rito
Bramblevest will proc on R ?
I won't forget my 15 - 2 Trynda game one shot my team because of her stupidly OP ultimate.
@ipklan2
2 жыл бұрын
You asked for that by grouping, just split against her
Dobby said have fun and I said I’m always banning that champ
Thx 😁
That'd be a great Ult for Sylus to steal. I suppose Sylus will be first priority ban for Renanta mains lol.
Next champ : Zulg Passive : Zulg starts the game with "Rabadon Deathcap" and 2000g. He also teleports himself with right-click. He cannot buy boots. Q : Make an enemy flee in a direction for 2 sec giving him 300% movespeed (+100%AP), if the enemy hit a wall he is executed. If he hits another enemy they both are executed. CD 8 sec. Mana cost 20. W : Shield allies for 500 (+200%) for 4 sec. Not decaying. If an ally is successfully shielded then all the allies become invisible. CD 3sec. Mana cost 50. E : Shoots lasers that deals 300 every 0.1 sec for 5sec (+120% AP). Zulg becomes untargetable while shooting lasers. CD 4 sec. Mana cost 35. R : Zulg activate the "surrender option" for enemies with already 4 positive votes. If an enemy presses "no" his ms will be instable between 100/200ms for 1 min. CD 80 sec. Mana cost 100.
@tillbold357
2 жыл бұрын
The ult perfectly discribes the way riot is making up new bs features for champions to give them a "unique identity"
so what champ can counter her? i think morg, yuumi, soraka.
can someone tell me what is the name of the best play in the world of Renata? since i'm learning her and i would like her to be my main champ
its okay guys just keep playing it it will surely be better one day
does the damage done by taunted enemies count as renata damage ?
Shows glacial rune, next clip aery hits
looks like i am a korean challenger :^)
when dobby calls it "the most overloaded kit by far" it tells me the high winrate isn't just people getting used to it... the buff really shouldn't revive or at least they should make it not reset on kill
What I like about her is one less ban for Yasuo
@greenpinapple820
2 жыл бұрын
Only if someone on your team owns her tho.
Ngl.. What were they even thinking... The fact that riot even released something so broken shows that either someone behind it has too much authority that no one bothered or could stop him/her or riot is actually doing it for the ads and memes to prevent the game from dying
Must neft w to heal or shield only 50% hp
@mattphyx
2 жыл бұрын
her W will always heal the burning target back to only 30% hp if they manage to save themselves, otherwise it just delays death for 3 seconds or less if there are other DOT effects on top of that or just any damage in general.
Old Yorick is crying together with Aatrox
She is strong an dneeds nerfs but she is a vbery well made champion. She has still all the main enchanter problems and weaknesses and so she will be healthy easily. It's when Riot breaks their classes limits that they make champions that can't be healthy and balanced.