How James Webb Broke Cosmology In Just 2 Months
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The James Webb Space Telescope is an infrared observatory that can peer at those regions of the cosmos that even Hubble could not. Webb's long-awaited first year of science observations, known as cycle 1, began by mid-2022. Two of its Cycle 1 programs spent dozens of hours looking for distant galaxies in the early Universe by staring at separate small portions of the sky.
Astronomers did not expect anything remarkable. They thought they would get a refined version of the Hubble Deep Field from these two short-period Cycle 1 programs. Instead, to their surprise, such galaxies sprung into view immediately. Astronomers began spotting galaxies that must have existed in the first 200 million years of the big bang. The researchers were excited because Webb suddenly opened the windows to the last significant unexplored era in the history of the Universe.
However, those galaxies were not like what we had expected. Instead, they were exceptionally bright with a stellar mass of billions of solar masses. Such giant evolved galaxies defy the expectations set by our standard model of the Universe's evolution. So, where did we go wrong in our models? How can we explain the new extragalactic observations made by the James Webb Space Telescope? Finally, and most importantly, do these observations mean the Big Bang theory is wrong?
The 26th episode of the Sunday Discovery Series answers all these questions in detail.
All Episodes Of The Series: bit.ly/369kG4p
Basics of Astrophysics series: bit.ly/3xII54M
REFERENCES:
GLz-13 Research Paper: bit.ly/3Siw2qf
GLz-13 Episode: bit.ly/3zYobpu
Webb's Highest Redshift Candidate: bit.ly/3SNQako
Earendel Research Paper: arxiv.org/pdf/2208.09007.pdf
Reference Article: bit.ly/3UFBepl
Hubble Deep Field: bit.ly/3dGw0Ji
List of farthest objects found to date: bit.ly/2HZ8VRK
Redshift and spectroscopy: bit.ly/3BD1n0S
Created By: Rishabh Nakra
Narrated By: Jeffrey Smith
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I am 35. I grew up in the 90's with photos of Hubble and was convinced it was the most technologically advanced thing we were ever going to put into space. As I matured I learned it would never be. James Webb to me is incredible and should be celebrated globally... It brings a whole new generation to the phrase, "wow, look at what previous generations thought was the truth of the universe!"
@D0S81
Жыл бұрын
makes you realise that the tech will only get better and better that we put up there, and before you know it we'll likely be able to see the oldest things in the universe.
@trinny_y
Жыл бұрын
@@D0S81 I wonder if we would be able to see the universe literally forming!
@johannesthe5th154
Жыл бұрын
We share the same age. I’m thinking that the James Webb telescope won’t be the last amazement we see in our generation. But for now it’s incredible for damn sure 👍
@D0S81
Жыл бұрын
@@trinny_y wow, can you imagine! being able t actually see the light from the beginning of the universe! that would be mind blowing. the way tech is advancing we might even see it our lifetimes.
@RandySpycyWeinr
Жыл бұрын
Same here...grew up in the 90s and it's crazy to think that within my lifetime we've gone from not knowing if there were any exoplanets to cataloging hundreds and now we have even directly observed ones atmosphere! Astronomy is so incredibly big...
I’ve never been that interested in astronomy in the past. But this James Web telescope has got me captivated, the pictures it’s taking are just awe inspiring. It’s opening up areas of thought, debate of which could rewrite the whole infrastructure of modern learning of the cosmos.
@sakshamverma1369
Жыл бұрын
Same dude! The rate at which new discoveries are coming forward and questioning theories seems like some real progress is being made rather than just theories. Already keen to see succesor
@treyvon4444
Жыл бұрын
Thats why I been waiting so long for them to put it in space over 15 years ago when I first heard about it.
@350yardteeshotsmakesgolfez
Жыл бұрын
It has been re-written or is being… No one with an IQ over 110 believes in evolution…there are hundreds of human fossil finds(in peer reviewed journals Yes)millions of years old(michael cremo on YT) and over 99.9% of all species have gone extinct and 150-200species go extinct each day… so less that .1% of all species and phyla/genus’s that have existed, have already gone extinct. So this is not evolution lol. This is dying out-LUTION…and changing chromosome # to turn from a whale into a wolf Haahha. Idiots. Everything is wrong when it comes to the historical accounts of man and archaeological shit. Sumaria was probably not the first civilization either. We have giants on record too being discovered
@350yardteeshotsmakesgolfez
Жыл бұрын
Im an atheist geologist.. we just have to keep searching and looking in space and micro-world 🔬 to derive answers about why and how etc… we are way off with all these dumb documentaries that mention evolution and millions of years. Watch debates on these topics by PhD’s to see how far off and how guessy and dishonest the “evidence” for evolution was. Most was fraudulent, so these scientists should be ashamed of themselves and are dunces for thinkjng they can explain everything in 100-150years of modern science. shit is getting real now with advancing telescopes, thank god, then maybe we will understand more…or ask the aliens lol
@ryo0o0o88
Жыл бұрын
I'm hooked too! It's so amazing it's like looking at our own creation watching galaxies and stars be born in front of us. We are literally star made, it's beautiful to think about
You grow up hearing all the time how huge the universe is, but it still surprises me when I watch things like this. To hear that such a tiny uneventful part of the sky contained thousands of galaxies when we looked closely really puts into perspective how unimaginably minuscule we are. It’s awesome
@slash_em
Жыл бұрын
Conversely, there are more neurons in your brain than stars in the observable universe. Seen from the perspective of cells, molecules, and atoms, your body is far larger than the universe outside of it.
@thedemographicschannel611
Жыл бұрын
@@slash_em Number of neurons in the Brain: Approx. 100 Billion Number of stars in the observable universe: Approximately 1 Septillion Not even close.
@slash_em
Жыл бұрын
@@thedemographicschannel611 those stars are not observable. They are calculated by estimating an average in galaxies, and estimating the number of galaxies by using an average as well. Visible stars from earth:4500 from each side of the planet, or 9000 total.
@badrinathillur6037
Жыл бұрын
@@thedemographicschannel611 i can't process any of these lllions
@Nine-Signs
Жыл бұрын
scale wise a human to the universe is smaller than a grain of sand is to a human.
I'm always amazed by the fact that we can actually see galactic entities that were created billions ago, in present.
@bonybuinta1630
Жыл бұрын
Time dilation
@purushottam_paramdharma
Жыл бұрын
@@bonybuinta1630 bruh it's just a lot of distance not time dilation
@pratyushghatole167
Жыл бұрын
@@bonybuinta1630 it's the time took by light to reach us. What is occurring at present at the exact spot will be known to us billions of years from now, given humanity or earth will survive till that time to observe.
@necropolistc6357
Жыл бұрын
some of them have already exploded, we just can't see it yet
@billzemon8628
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your use of the word "created".
The explanation was concise, understandable, but not dumbed down, excellent job mister
@mordenator865
Жыл бұрын
Yeah i hate the science channels that just go on about the same point for 10 minutes, showing random stock footage and never actually answering the question in the title.
@moai3951
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I thought too, they created this video for certain group of people in mind, who have some basic knowledge about the cosmos so they could've already jumped straight to the point with just some minor explanation, i might consider subscribing this channel
@azazeru_ch
Жыл бұрын
@@mordenator865 is this vid different? i actually want to know more abt jwst but those channels are so clickbaity and keep talking over obvious thing
@Rascal2944
Жыл бұрын
Just more proof that arrogant eggheads do not know exactly what is going on in the universe..
@nuclearsimian3281
Жыл бұрын
The hallmarks of a good teacher is someone that can explain a complex topic in a way that almost anyone can understand.
I used to occasionally lament that when we looked into space all we saw was the past...but now I realise what a joy it is and how valuable to understanding!
When I was 11 my dad took me to the McDonald Observatory, the closest big ass telescope that had a program for public education and viewing. I was blown away. . . and then came the Hubble and now the JWST. This stuff just keeps getting better and better.
@darkone292
Жыл бұрын
You must be pretty old if you were alive before the hubble came
The technological jump from Hubble to Webb reminds me of the jumps in the evolution of spaced based observations in Three Body Problem series. Every time there was a jump in observation technology not only was more able to be seen; what could already see increased in detail by orders of magnitude. With every layer of increasing detail, the more it was understood about how little was actually known.
@Ashley-1917
Жыл бұрын
Oh I love that book! It was totally uncanny. The writing was almost reminiscent of dostoievski.
@arnowisp6244
Жыл бұрын
One of the most hopeless feeling books when you realize how it means that we might be in a Galaxy where every alien is a Potential Predator to each other and us. Hench why they all are silent.
@luftwaffle3766
Жыл бұрын
Point the telescope at trisolaris. Do it.
That telescope will discover more of the known universe in our lifetime and possibly even more stars and galaxies that we didn’t know existed.
@gabrielarcari4460
Жыл бұрын
I wonder when they will admit seeing UAP:s all the time.....Lue Elizondo (CIA) said that JW telescope can see in different wavelengths of the infrared spectrum just as military intelligence satellites in earth's orbit seeing UAP:s all the time ...
@smlanka4u
Жыл бұрын
The Big Bang was not an explosion. Atoms could emerge from energy after a contraction of matter. The universe existed before the Big Bang. Buddhism explains the cyclic formation and destruction of the galaxies.
@spr1ngcactu5
Жыл бұрын
More like 5-10 years max
@nathankennedy3290
Жыл бұрын
@@spr1ngcactu5 why do you say that? I believe both voyagers lasted well above 20 years
@HandleDeezNutzVoluntarily
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sherlock… you’d better call Holmes.
When I started to watch this video I began to think that it was some kind of tv recorded documentary because it is so well narrated, concise, entertaining, interesting and, above all, it is so good that it seems like it was made by a big channel company like NatGeo or Discovery. For my surprise it wasn't. What a fantastic video. Also the host should be narrating/working for the top tv channels broadcasters.
Love the fascinating new discoveries that the JSWT is making in just the last few months. I hope that sometime in the future they'll use the telescope to take some pictures of supermassive black holes. The pictures we have so far do show the accretion disk but in very low resolution. It would be interesting to get a more detailed look at an accretion disk and see if the concept drawings are accurate (even the logo of thisc channel is an accretion disk lol! You'd have to update your logo).
@paulb9769
Жыл бұрын
It is simply amazing how space is all over the media these days.
@santimda1990
Жыл бұрын
The angular resolution (sort of "definition" of the image) of JWST is not better than that of the EHT that observes in mm wavelengths, so no, you are not going to get a better image of an accretion flow into a supermassive black hole.
@ComedyLoverGirl
Жыл бұрын
@@santimda1990 Is that so? My idea was that JWST has superior infrared perception, and matter orbiting a blackhole becomes increasingly redshifted, therefore the JWST may be better at imaging accretion disks? I may be wrong though.
@dream8870
Жыл бұрын
@@paulb9769 it needs to be, it’s humanities final frontier. I believe we must achieve to be a space faring civilization
@39peevedturtles19
Жыл бұрын
@@ComedyLoverGirl I'm pretty sure the black hole photos used using an array of radio telescopes, which together are the equivalent of a single radio telescope the size of the earth. You need a BIG telescope to see supermassive black holes, I don't think the JWST has the angular resolution to see them (from where we are, they're tiny!)
The utter vastness of space is just so hard to comprehend!
It takes amazing courage to think outside the box, and when we do, look at what we learn.
@sciencetroll6304
Жыл бұрын
The box is the big bang theory.
@ferventheat
Жыл бұрын
@@sciencetroll6304 agreed.
@Kyrieru
Жыл бұрын
Unless you're outside the box.
@easternyellowjacket276
Жыл бұрын
I challenged people for years about the Big Bang. And you wouldn't believe what I was called. Quite frankly, the universe can't have a beginning and an end. The universe is infinite in both time and space. There can be no other way.
@smithcs790
Жыл бұрын
@@easternyellowjacket276 agree the universe is infinite. but can we be sure that our time and space aren't finite? a simple example would be simulation theory
Seeing new things has always been interesting, but understanding the reason for their formation and behavior has an indescribable pleasure. Just as physical and cosmological models have been developed by the discovery of galaxies, seeing these new puzzles will lead to the growth and development of more realistic cosmic models. Of course, It is the power of human thinking that can reach more complete models to describe nature, and we should continue to hope.
@foxdie1001
Жыл бұрын
To bad you can't say the same for covid? That's wrong think and you should accept everything they tell you as infallible because I guess science is that now.
@chrisso3082
Жыл бұрын
@@foxdie1001 not the place to talk about covid imo, completely different field of science...lmao. Maybe push your agenda elsewhere
@foxdie1001
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisso3082 this is exactly what I'm talking about. No room for discord whatsoever. My point is, why ostracize anything that goes against the narrative, how could we ever grow. We must be afraid to challenge authorities on scientific discoveries that can turn political ideologies (left or right) on their heads.
@chrisso3082
Жыл бұрын
@@foxdie1001 "No room for discord whatsover" . Okay, if u think so. btw, i don't think we grow in any way...our tech is getting crazy...but not the human biology...I actually think our tech starts harming us. And it will get worse the higher tech we get.
@sciencedavedunning3415
11 ай бұрын
@Chris So They used to say that if a man went faster than 100mph his eyes would boil in thier sockets. 'They' being those who suffered "intellectual inertia". Our tech advances only become harmful when politicians abuse them into weapons . Let scientists lead the way.......... by example.
Science is a beautiful thing and one of the few things where "I was wrong", while still hard to utter, can be the bell to ring in progress.
This is hands down the best doco on the unexpected 'too large too early galaxies' find of James Webb, there are so many on youtube but this is actually the only one you need to see.
@markgallaway5574
Жыл бұрын
Except it is total bollocks. The early formation of galaxies is well within the uncertainties
There are a lot of things about now that are not great, but the Webb Telescope is amazing.
@veramae4098
Жыл бұрын
Watching the launch, arrival, and the complex unfolding was spell binding. There were over 200 "points" on the whole process in which if something went wrong, the whole project was trashed. Terrifying. As it turned out, there were a couple of minor problems but back-ups had been planned and worked out fine. An amazing engineering achievement, that has also changed engineering standards here on Earth.
It might take even larger scopes to begin to finally see what's really going on here. I would say we might have to discard a whole lotta assumptions we have made up to this point. But at least we are making progress. Remember there is also the universe of the super small which could be the real key to understanding the whole works.
@smh9902
Жыл бұрын
Much of what James Webb was accurately predicted by the electric universe cosmologists and model. Halton Aarp disproved big bang hypothesis and inflation hypothesis in the 1980's with his quasars and redshifts controversies. Ralph Juergons did much on lunar phneomena, Stuart Talbott has made accurate predictions. Wal Thornhill and Dr. Don Scott predicted almost everything James Webb further proved. We need to give these men their due credit now, and everyone that clung to the old model needs to apologize to the electric universe cosmologists.
@TheStockwell
Жыл бұрын
@@smh9902 The electric universe. Har har har! 😅
@smh9902
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStockwell They've been making more accurate predictions than dark energy and cold dark matter models.
@midnight4685
Жыл бұрын
@@smh9902 Careful though, we really shouldn't, because a few correct claims in an ocean of wrongness aren't good enough. A broken clock is right twice a day. The claims made about comets and other outer space entities were very incorrect and none of these people are qualified in the field of astronomy/astrophysics. The Big Bang hasn't been disproven, tweaks need to be made to it. None of them have written peer-reviewed papers either and there are debunks for their work online. Professor Dave on KZread, for example, does a great debunk of the Electric Universe, though he has a somewhat scathing tone.
@smh9902
Жыл бұрын
@@midnight4685 @Midnight "The Big Bang hasn't been disproven, tweaks need to be made to it." - I'm a skeptic. If something doesn't comport to empirical testing, then I reject it. Peer review doesn't matter, the scientific method is all that matters. The scientific method is observe, hypothesize, test, and communicate results. It makes no mention as to how the communication should be done. You and I, We are the peers and we will do the reviewing, not some anonymous academic on their ivory tower. Prof. Dave literally made so many argumentum ad verecundiams, argumentum ad populums, strawmen, and flat out ad-homs that I cant take anything he says seriously. When someone brings up "prof" Dave, we're talking about a guy who called Halton Arp obese in his arguments against his work and is very disingenuous. The fundamental problems of pure G based cosmology are intractable, and the fact remains that only one of the three water detectors on any comet ice detection system was ever tripped. phys.org/news/2005-10-evidence-ice-comets.html
The visuals in your video really help in better understanding these concepts, good stuff 👍🏼
I still have so much respect for HUBBLE. It was first to show us our universe. Webb just cleared the photos up and added more detail. Hubble and JWST are wonderful tools for us to look further into the universe. Respect to Both telescopes!
The first Hubble deep field veiw , was 11 days - scientists were amazed at what as found in an "empty" bit of space , said to have been no bigger than a grain of sand , on a finger tip , on an outstretched arm . This was compiled with Doppler shifts , and more comprehensive data sets to come up with a 1 & half hour long tour , of what Hubble saw . I managed to get comment 6 , which asked , " if Hubble sees this much in 11 days , what would it see in 22 or 35 , or 50 days observation of a similar , alledgedly empty bit of space ? Nature hates a wasted space , ask any Gardner , there's never bare soil for long . They did a 22 day observation , which is about Hubble's limit , without an upgrade . It's information when combined with data from the other types of telescopes , all aimed the same way , for the same length of observation , would astound the astronomers and the space agency staff .
@david_cop_a_feel7538
Жыл бұрын
I don't know anybody named Gardner.
@archanajha4458
Жыл бұрын
@@david_cop_a_feel7538 🤭🤣😂😂😂👌
@archanajha4458
Жыл бұрын
👍
@davidarundel6187
Жыл бұрын
@@david_cop_a_feel7538 😂
@davidarundel6187
Жыл бұрын
@@archanajha4458 😂
Really good info ! Thanks to everyone involved making this video.
big thanks to the creators and teams behind for the James Webb, awesome work.
love that the vid is not just news-reporting but actually discussed the issue and how much of the big band theory is still credible
People should also know that the red shift observations that Hubble did were based off of only about 46 galaxies. There have been studies involving more than 20,000 galaxies that paint a different picture. However, there seems to be an agenda for the Big Bang theory and modern cosmogists will always try to fit new observations to it rather than ever trying to find other solutions to these observations. They throw around predictions of forces involved like Dark Matter and Dark Energy when we don't even truly understand gravity, which is probably the most fundamental force even though it's the weakest. Also a side note to stir some thoughts: If this singularity resided within a point the size of almost nothing, what did it start expanding into if there is no space or dimensions relative to the point that the singularity resides? I've heard that it was some 8th dimension spilling out into the 3rd dimension, how does that work? Also if you were looking at the singularity before the expansion of the it, where would you be observing it from?
@nathanf9582
Жыл бұрын
"However, there seems to be an agenda for the Big Bang theory and modern cosmologists will always try to fit new observations to it rather than ever trying to find other solutions to these observations." - Nailed it.
@tonyabrown7796
Жыл бұрын
You should watch "The heaven's declare" by Kyle Justice. He interviews several astronomers, physicists, and an engineer who made correct predictions of what the JWST would see. You don't have to agree with their conclusions but throughout the series they mention quite a few of the issues with the big bang theory. FYI the first episode is more philosophical than the rest.
@edword3457
Жыл бұрын
There is an alternate group of scientists working on understanding our universe from a new vantage point. Thunderbolts Project Welcome to the Electric Universe kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5amu7Sels-uY6Q.html
@timlong4256
Жыл бұрын
Even after definitive proof, the filmwriters try to "cover their asses" by copping out with a "plausible denial" -- what cowards! This is the exact same behavior that got us involved in the "big bang" conundrum all along.
@tonyabrown7796
Жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas963 I just can't make my mind up about red shift. I'll have to look up the term hubble tension.
Love this video, very good information! The James Webb scope is going to remind us how little we know about our universe ✨️
@YogSoth
Жыл бұрын
@T We get it, you like to act like a troll. Congrats.
@LaurentCassaro
Жыл бұрын
@T I love Dr. Becky Smethurst's content, but... what information is wrong in this video?
@Rohishimoto
Жыл бұрын
People say that a lot and it's definitely true and valuable that we are humbled, but it's also important to remember how much of what JWST sees actually validates our scientific models. We are seeing incredible new detail and objects unimaginably distant from us, but they still largely fit into our broad models of physics. We should also be a bit proud of that fact.
Very interesting, would love to see more. Keep it up!
enjoy all these instruments offer for views of the cosmos, yet am anxious for the moment we discover a world outside ourselves which sustains life!
Beautiful explanation, thank you!
Webb's observation are incredible
one day we will find something in the universe that will break everything we know, how we think and we wont be able to go back.
@paulb9769
Жыл бұрын
We are being primed.
@SoccerBoyAP
Жыл бұрын
It will either be that we have always been alone int he universe or that we are in a universe teaming with life; either realization should be soul shaking
@pianostool44
Жыл бұрын
@@SoccerBoyAP probably alone, given that we have been in space for 60 years out of 4 billion. We are a needle in a haystack, and maybe every other civilisation is/was too...
I have one question.....@5:57 The GLz-13 (existed) right so in present time it does not ? right ?
When we try to pick out something by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe 🕉
i like how its presented like it changes everything when it only really changes when and how long our universe is but still points to the big bang. just larger than we thought and distorted by the red shift because red travels the farthest.
@Mrmistershesh
Жыл бұрын
That's not how redshifting works.
@dirremoire
Жыл бұрын
No. If this observation is true, the Big Bang is totally broken. Even the CMB now needs to be questioned. But most astronomers are not going to let go of the Big Bang easily as they built their careers on it.
@aliceslab
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrmistershesh oh i guess i misinterpreted
@Mrmistershesh
Жыл бұрын
@@aliceslab I can hopefully give you an intuitive picture that requires just a little bit of math: Suppose I'm very far away in space and you want to send me two little blinks of light, one after the other. You send the first blink at time t=0, and the second at time t=dt. Suppose also that the universe is expanding constantly. At t=0 we are d meters apart, but at dt we are a little more separated than that. This means that the second blink you sent me has to travel just a little farther to reach me. This in turn means that, for me, the two blinks will be separated in time by more than they were for you. This is cosmological redshifting. Light is a wave, and as light propagates in an expanding universe, the period of the wave grows just like the blinking of the lights you sent me. The frequency is just one over the period, so it gets smaller and the light looks "redder" ie lower frequency than when it was first emitted.
I like that we’re wrong because that means we get to learn so much more and it means our heads aren’t as big as we think they are
I am also amazed at how “far out there” we, as a species, have BEcome in our ever expanding understandings of the universe! What is also amazing to me is that our consciousness is so intrinsically connected to this expansion and I posit….the more we become “lighted” the less “dark” there will be in dark matter.
Even if we assume entirely different rules in the realm that existed "before" the big bang, this entire universe existing within a point the size of nothing has always been too hard for me to accept.
@ullasbabu1732
Жыл бұрын
Same pinch
@phobics9498
Жыл бұрын
With the realization that time literally slows down, distance seems smaller and all other weird shit that happens as you go faster and approach the speed of light I frankly dont even know how you could be suprised anymore lol
@harlenburke8535
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, never could wrap my head around a singularity. Im thinking it was more of a gigantic fart from an already existing universe.....
@StephenGoodfellow
Жыл бұрын
“Give us one free miracle and we’ll explain the rest.” 😀 ~Terence McKenna
@sciencetroll6304
Жыл бұрын
@@harlenburke8535 My 3d picture is a drop of oil coming up from the deep, getting to the surface and expanding.
Pity that Fred Hoyle is not here to comment. This sounds exactly like his view (and today's Penrose's view also) that there was not just one big bang.
@jty9631
Жыл бұрын
That sounds reasonable I guess. Well, lots of ideas are reasonable, it just needs some evidence. Multiple big bangs, imagine that, and so the universe becomes just "the verse".
Our ability to look further changes our understanding. We must be willing to adjust our concepts of reality and science. Our science today is based on what we know ... but we don't know everything and there are things to be revised or even abandoned.
Brilliant. Hungover, yet still enthralled.
Now lets spend the next 20 years building the next powerful telescope.
@Agent-57
Жыл бұрын
Why are you criticizing ?
@gandalf_thegrey
Жыл бұрын
@@Agent-57 why not
@alexmuller6752
Жыл бұрын
unironically: yes.
@SoccerBoyAP
Жыл бұрын
The next generation of powerful telescopes will have to be built in space. It will require a size that we won't be able to build on the ground and will use precision construction techniques that require zero gravity.
@Agent-57
Жыл бұрын
@@gandalf_thegrey Why not ? Because of the achievements and progress
I absolutely love the background music you use, what is it?
@thatswhatithought6519
Жыл бұрын
It is from ‘70s porn
Love your videos about Webb and learning about contradictions between new data and theories. There's a small error in one figure -- at 5:28 I think that Z for the "Newly-identified farthest galaxy candidate should be 13.3, like in the later ue of the red-shift diagram.
Why are we always so amazed to learn that we still have more to learn?
@tetsujin_144
Жыл бұрын
We know we have more to learn, the amazing part is seeing a new piece of the puzzle revealed.
We think the universe is so vast because we are so tiny. We think time is so long bc our time is so short. Our universe could be a little experiment on a secondary student’s desk that lasts a few seconds from his point of view through a microscope. 🤯
Universe is truly full of a hell lot of mysteries!
@bogusphone8000
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Which were explained 6000 years ago.
@Henriburger1
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@@bogusphone8000 What happened for astronomy in 4,000 BC? The start of the bronze age?
@bogusphone8000
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@@Henriburger1 Documentation of the placement of the stars.
@Henriburger1
Жыл бұрын
@@bogusphone8000 Oh I didn’t even think about that. That makes a lot more sense than what I was thinking.
@bogusphone8000
Жыл бұрын
@@Henriburger1 Well, acceptance and confession is the first step to recovery... ;)
I recall visiting the Kennedy SC (KSC) in 1976, and it was the strangest experience. First of all, the tour involved going from site to site in an old, yellow, un-air-conditioned school bus. When stopping at the VAB, we were actually left on our own to wander around outside unescorted. I recall there was a pile of the huge iron track pieces used for vehicle transport in the back of the VAB. It was impossible to believe that only four years earlier we were launching men to the moon. It absolutely felt moth-balled and left me feeling depressed with an impression that the US space program was over. I don't know how far along the Shuttle program was in 1976, but needless to say, I am thrilled that there was much more on the way, with even more planned for the future, with the JWST as an incredible opportunity to be appreciated in our time.
I’m still in Awe that the Voyager missions are Still active and relaying messages!!!
Imagine how good and what discoveries the telescope that replaces the james webb will make.
It would be interesting to compare moore's law to the field of astronomy. I wonder if one day we will see exponential growth of that discipline and watch it impact us like computers once did.
Thank You!!!! I love this post - important info that must be understood to move forward.
@TheSecretsoftheUniverse
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
I feel privileged to live during the era of space exploration.
@TKOfromJohn
Жыл бұрын
Wrong. We live in the era of space OBSERVATIONS. Exploration is still a couple hundred years out
Wow....it might just be that the universe came into existence at some point really rapidly.
@BoliceOccifer
Жыл бұрын
true
Great information as always thanks . I think the basic premise of the big bang is right though the various calculations need some tuning coming new information from the webb telescope. I think of the calculations predicting black holes or even before galaxies were discovered , we first found the earth is round and shifted to a heliocentric model of the solar system where the planets were revolving around the earth in concentric circles . Then we found it was somewhat of a elliptical path . Then we discovered the planets revolved around the sun in different planes .
@smlanka4u
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A lot of energy beams could collide and make matter and antimatter during the Big Bang. So it could definitely be a Big Bounce. Perhaps, matter and antimatter collisions increased the density of the existing space during the Big Bounce/Bang. I think the collisions of energy beams make virtual matter and virtual antimatter particles (extra mass/points), increasing the mass density in space while converting to photons. The flatness of the universe indicates that the entire universe is expanding forever. But the density of the universe could increase with time due to a lot of interactions and cyclic processes. The Buddha said that this great universe which has a thousand billion Sakwala (Galaxies) undergoes a cyclic process within a duration called a Maha-Kalpa. The Buddha explained a lot of things about the process of the universe.
@mortkebab2849
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You mean the Earth isn't supported by six elephants standing on a giant tortoise?
@marcelocortez7639
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If you grenade your body does it prove the big bang?
@michaelarojas
Жыл бұрын
Big bang = nonsense
@smlanka4u
Жыл бұрын
@@mortkebab2849, Cosmic Inflation theory is based on wrong concepts. According to Buddhism, The universe ended with a rain (called Sampaththi Mahamegha) like high energy plasma of elementary particles that filled the universe with them after the contraction (Sanvattai) that starts to expand (Vivatta) during the time that started to exchange matter from one side to another. And the duration of the further expansion (Vivattai) is similar to the duration of the first expansion. Again it contracts (Sanvatta) within a similar duration. So the so-called Cosmic Inflation couldn't happen quickly. Something must be wrong with the hypothetical theory of Cosmic Inflation. The General Relativity doesn't allow faster than light expansion. So perhaps, some people tried to change science to make that to support creationism. It is a shame to the scientific community. Someone with a good brain should be able to understand that scientists or the universe didn't have a good reason to be very small like an atom or elementary particle. Space doesn't have a process that can expand matter quickly, making cosmic inflation. Space is still increasing. So the Big Bang didn't create space to expand matter. I'm sure that something big is wrong with the scientific community and the people who are popularising science because of the influence of Abrahamic religions. They usually don't talk and ignore a lot of topics that are against the concept of creationism. It is cheating.
I find it quite fitting that the james webb is probing the very places that the majority of science thought a waste not long ago. This is why i like science so much!
It's so unbelievably sharp it's mind blowing
It is still early days in discovering what is going on in the universe, a shorter time than the theory of evolution for example. When you compare to what biological/evolutionary discoveries have been made in the last 20 years due to genetics, it is no wonder that something like the JWT is revealing more information and meaning that our model has to be refined and updated.. Thanks for the video, even though physics is not my strong point.
If you took something on the scale of the planck scale (the smallest "things" we know of) and made it the size of a tree, the atom it resided within would have to be the same size as the universe. What if we as a species are relative to a planck scale "thing" residing within the atom that is our universe, that is just one atom within one living cell of an infinitely huge sentient being.
But then if the universe is forever expanding at an unknown speed and from the time the deep field photo was taken it kept expanding and JWT peered out and "caught up" and exceeded the view is just incredible. Can't wait to see what it finds years down the line.
@mikemondano3624
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We know the speed exactly.
And just to add to this marvelous observation. We are watching only the Observable Universe, there can be many more such Universes beyond that.
Our knowledge binds us to our existing understanding but as that knowledge increases our understanding changes. This is especially true of our knowledge of the Universe. I have always struggled to believe its age is just 13.7 Billion years old but being only of average intelligence I have always accepted the current estimates by experts. More and more I question that age.
@kennethferland5579
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Indeed early age estimates were constantly in conflict with objects of know age that were older then that and had to get revised upwards to accomadate them as the disagreement forced people to find errors. The present agreed on age number just reflects an exhastion of nearby identifiable old objects but is not methodologically any more credible then concluding a forest is as old as the oldest tree that one can find.
Would be really cool if the belgian priest, father Georges Lemâitre, were still alive and seeing these developments nowadays. I bet that as a man of science the priest would be deeply impressed and interested.
What is the music in the background?
James Webb was a legend in his own lunchtime by the sound of it.
What if the images found in blank space are reflections on the universe's boundary of the other objects? The possibility could be modeled given what we know of the visible objects. It should not be that hard to do.
@mikemondano3624
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The universe has no boundary. It is finite, but boundless. The walls wouldn't be reflective, anyway.
@michaelbindner9883
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@@mikemondano3624 so model it both ways and see which works. That is science.
@mikemondano3624
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@@michaelbindner9883 Fair enough.
What if there was no “beginning?” What if “creation” is a natural, ongoing process that is continuous and continual? What if we have it backward? What if the more distant objects are the newer, less mature material, while the oldest is closest to the,point of origin? Could there be multiple points of origin instead of one big bang? Question everything.
@simultaneouspaint_06
Жыл бұрын
To arrive at a conclusion, you consider, question and eliminate many possibilities. I m positive scientists have already questioned and then eliminated many possibilities and then arrived at the big bang conclusion. However it is still quite possible that nothing even close to the big bang ever occurred. You see, our realm of thinking isn't limitless. There are many thing we can't imagine, way beyond our way of thinking.
@grumblur
Жыл бұрын
The Big Bang theory doesn't say that there is a single point of origin. If we point our telescope in any direction, the furthest galaxies we see will all be the same age. Why? Because the Big Bang happened in every point of the universe simultaneously.
Great presentation.James Webb telescope is a true wonder. Any chance that you (uploader) can share the name of the author/piece of that soothing ambient sound behind the video? Thanks.
This is Groundbreaking! 💜
This phrase of Max Planck also applies to human beings
@davidripley2916
Жыл бұрын
. . . Some of who are as thick as two short Max's! 🤪
@senorpepper3405
Жыл бұрын
My wanker is a Planck length 😔
If in nature something looks unremarkable and uninteresting, it just means we haven't looked at it carefully enough.
Great stuff…easy to follow even though I know nothing about this stuff.
How have they figured this stuff out? I will never understand most of this, but just grasping some concepts and the desire to keep learning is awesome.
After all the fuss broke out i saw wave after wave of big-bang-is-dead titles! As non-academic astronomy aficionado for almost 30 years, i do have some knowledge and comprehension of our Universe, although not enough to shake scientific world with some amazing discovery or waterproof theory. Also, i have no problem with accepting new data and complete shift of paradigm if need be... with that being said - i really did my best to approach this subject with open mind and virgin tolerance. After countless articles, videos, discussions... i still think that this didn't prove big-bang theory wrong, but only that our understanding of evolution of galaxies needs some tender love and care. I like Big Bang theory, but in the end i really don't care if it is true or not. I know that whatever that might be, it is not going to be any less of a wonder than this is. It would be nice to find out before i leave this mortal coil, but if not - Big Bang is mystery good enough for me.
@bogusphone8000
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Although, as the math approaches infinity the probability becomes zero.
@psihostrumpf6233
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@@bogusphone8000 Nope. It only approaches zero.
@bogusphone8000
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@@psihostrumpf6233 Hey, if .0000001% is good for you...
@psihostrumpf6233
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@@bogusphone8000 .0000001% of what? Of one dollar? Not good. Of infinity? Very good. Of my rich uncles bank account? Even better. Of sweet Henriette's love? The best! Anyway, so far you produced one incorrect information (becomes zero) and one incomplete. I have sudden urge to troll you. But, i'm not going to. I like people that like to think. Making mistakes is the privilege of those that try. Stay sharp and stay well! ;)
@bogusphone8000
Жыл бұрын
@@psihostrumpf6233 of what? Of occurring. Yes, I changed the value to accommodate the fear of the rational conclusion that it didn't happen. Zero scares some people. A small sliver of hope, as you expressed above, puts many at ease and fosters continued dialogue. The mistake, within this scope, is failing to rationally address both premises' alignment to the evidence.
I've always been more of a fan of MOND as an explanation for "dark matter" than ∆CDM. Or maybe something we haven't discovered yet, like an interaction between photons and gravitons that as have neither observed nor explained or even additional dimensions (I mean like the 4 dimensions we know, not multiverse). Never know, though. Being able to see so much further makes it an exciting time for cosmology.
@stephenphillips4984
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Sorry, no. MOND is Soooo untidy, it could not possibly be true. It's a 11-d universe with two 10-d space-time sheets separated along the 11th dimension, as predicted by E8xE8' heterotoic superstring theory within M-theory. That's the answer. Dark matter is simply the E8-singlet state of E8xE8' heterotic superstring theory.
@marielizysurourcq
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In my logic, I always favored MOND type of explanation rather than an elusive "black box" called "Dark Matter".
@kennethferland5579
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenphillips4984 Your confusing MOND with string theory. MOND is completly unrelated.
@tonyabrown7796
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@@stephenphillips4984 are you suggesting the standard model is tidy? There are so many paradoxes, failed predictions, contradictory observations and unobserved hypotheses it's ridiculous.
With every astronomical discovery there should be humility to their predecessors. Their technology and knowledge invariably involve the much quoted "...standing on the shoulders of giants."
Excellent and fascinating.
"All of the problems in physics and cosmology are an artifact of our one dimensional model of time" - Gavin Wince
@MorallyAmbigousEnby
Жыл бұрын
Gavin Wince is a hack
im only up to 5:40 where he says ''where did we go wrong'' and i'm wondering if they ever take time dilation into account when observing the universe? maybe there was that much stuff that gravity was stronger at the start and so time went slower from our perspective, meaning that our estimates of how old the universe is could be wrong?
@david_cop_a_feel7538
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That plus there was no such thing as a year until the Earth started orbiting the Sun.
@senorpepper3405
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@@david_cop_a_feel7538 years are eternal! Get it thru your thick skull COPAFEEL!
@david_cop_a_feel7538
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@@senorpepper3405 - Yeah, and a year on Earth is different from a year on Pluto, etc. By a factor of 254. Sort of like that 2554 pound pumpkin they just grew in NY.
this guy puts me to sleep , luv dis vid good stuff
Man must quantify Everything. Right or wrong a theory will always be created to explain anything and everything as quickly as possible. It somehow makes us feel less insignificant.
I keep hearing that we are seeing "first galaxies produced by the big bang", except that our field of view is limited by the expansion of the universe. Anyone actually remember that we cannot see through that limit? There could be much older galaxies out there, beyond where we could ever see.
@SulphurDew
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You keep hearing it cuz it's clickbait bs
@clintono
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@@paulthomas963 Again, my point is that we cannot know, because of the expansion of the universe. We live in a bubble that could be outside of the norm.
We live in a amazing and beautiful galaxy 🌌 Happy we’re all in this cosmic voyage together ❤
@davidripley2916
Жыл бұрын
. . . Hey! WE were here first, dammit❕👽👽👽
@Garrett0329
Жыл бұрын
@@davidripley2916 I come in peace ✌🏼
Every observation related to cosmology reminds me of my favorite quote from Brandon Sanderson, "There's always another secret."
It's so exciting to be wrong about something like the Big Bang, or the age of space! There's so much MORE out there now! And that means there's so much more to learn and discover!
In about 100 years, they will eventually realize that the universe is MUCH older then they think when they develop better telescopes... and realize that they will most likely never find out lol
@zainabe9503
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Funny you say that. There's nothing linear in this world, maybe even there's nothing that has definite start and end. As if we'll see the "edge" of the universe.... maybe we'll eventually come back to....ourselves.
It maybe broke to you. But almost nothing that he discovered wasn't so truly new. It just expanded the already known anomalys toward the big bang theory. Yet those things are still not some big problem to the BB theory as a whole. There are still many possible explinations for all of that.
Well done. Subscribed
This was deliciously interesting 🤔 thank you..
it found the edges of the skybox
One thing I've always thought is what if the stars or galaxies in the universe are not light remnants of exploding stars ect. But still living and growing alongside us. and a galaxy or stars become brighter over time. Although it seems like a small shift it would fundamentally change the ways we view those galaxies we can observe or just glimps..
@johndododoe1411
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Who told you they were remnants of light and not real things making that light?
@luminousparadox7529
Жыл бұрын
Not all but some stars definitely are.. but what if they aren't. Azathoth could be out there 🤔
@luminousparadox7529
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And to answer your question most of science for most of my life
@johndododoe1411
Жыл бұрын
@@luminousparadox7529 Your answers are too short to make sense. If they are remnants of light, where did that original light come from?, and how did that light deteriorate into remnants before shining in our direction?
@luminousparadox7529
Жыл бұрын
Firstly I never said remnants of lights I said remnants of exploding stars and if you know anything about the life cycle of a star, they expand and grow in mass as a super nova happens. How it happens exactly I don't know that high level science. But I do understand that something millions of lightyears away would be gone by the time we see the light. For example a exploding star millions or billions of years ago would show today as a star although the original explosion happened in the time of the dinosaurs. So basically light over time and distance. Unless you don't believe in time dilation and laws of physics. As a side point I believe it was Einstein who said if you cant explain it to a 4 year old you don't understand the subject you are talking about. That's why I try to keep things short and sweet.
Could these images be reflective and combinative effect on light due to gravitational lensing? Perhaps, light travelled from such distances and passed many 'gravity bending' masses (ie a sun or black hole) that bent the light over millenia. This bending combined with other light affected the same way created a new 'image' by the time light reached telescope? Hope this question makes sense?
I have a question about red shift. It's considered that the light becomes more red, and it is assumed that this is because the light stretches, but couldn't it also be because the higher frequency photons are colliding with particles so they aren't visible? Like how our sky absorbs blue. This would stay in line with general distance measurements. And secondary question. Can we prove light can be stretched? Like, has there been experiments that can prove this?
@schalkerasmus277
Жыл бұрын
The more I read about astronomy the less I believe. We do not know what light or gravity is, Big bang, dark matter etc. The astronomers pretend to know, and their hero is Einstein.
The universe has always been there, and always will be. Nothing started it, and nothing will finish it. It just "is". We can't wrap our head around something just existing without a beginning or an end, but that's how it is.
@icemike1
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🤔
@Darth_Insidious
Жыл бұрын
Our data on the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) heavily supports the idea that at one point the universe was so hot and dense as to be opaque, and no light could travel very far without quickly being scattered. We know that with increasing distance we are looking at light created further back in time, and so the "edge" of the universe is really just the fact that there is a minuscule chance that light hitting our lens that is older than the light coming from the CMB. We have maps of the CMB, and our models suggest that the CMB could only have been produced as the universe cooled from above to below ~3000K (for reference, the temperature of space is ~2.73K now, with almost all of that heating coming from the CMB). This is all to suggest that even if our models of the Big Bang are wrong, the universe was almost certainly in a very different state 13.3 Billion years ago. Combine that with our observations of an expanding universe and the idea that the universe (especially in its current cold state with galaxies and stars and planets) is eternal is not that hard to dismiss with what we currently know.
@dryfox11
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@@Darth_Insidious Thank you, been looking for someone with enough brains to show the “everything is the same age” theory is BS lol
@robinhood6954
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@@dryfox11 Everything is the 'same age' when you don't conceptualise chronologically/linearly. Space/time (as vast and unfathomable as it all may appear) are nothing other than a mental construct. ☝️
@giannisms1861
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@@Darth_Insidious i saw an astronomer's interview (cant remember his name) and he explained a lot of things that point that the big bang is certainly wrong and the universe is either older than 13.8 billion yrs old or maybe even timeless. He also had done some research on some galaxies (hunderds of them) and the result was that these galaxies are not moving away from us but their light INDEED is dimmer (redshifted) which indicated that maybe redshift happens as the light travels through space and it just loses energy, not because of expansion. The evidence for this came from the results of the study i mentioned, it was not just a hypothesis. Scientist can, and maybe will contact this experiment within our solar system. They can send a probe a few hundend million kms away and send light back to earth, the scientists can then detect wether or not this light redshifted even just a little bit due to the distance it travelled within the solar system. Also, the cmb radiation has the same frequency as the electromagnetic waves produced by the fusin of hydrogen into helium, just redshifted by a big factor. Which could indicate that it could be just normal light from nuclear fusion in the core of stars trillions if light years away that has redshifted due to the huge distance. In an infinite universe there is supposed to be a star everywhere you look at (just like the cmb is everywhere you look at), so if there are stars trillions of light years away you can not detect them in the visible spectrum maybe not even in the infared if they are veryy far away, but you could in even higher wave lenghts just like the microwave. So cmb could potentially be indication of an infinite universe with the microwave radiation we detect being stars and galaxies faaaar away. Now, a lot of it sound too much and not proven yet. Cool. My point was to just show you that cmb is not necesarilly leftovers of a dense univerese, it could be something else like what i explained, or maybe something we have not even thought of yet. Also, cosmic inflation could be an illusion after all. The methods that they use in order to come to the conclusion that the universe expands are not perfect. In fact there was this BIG study that showed that the galaxies do not move away from us but their light just dims. If the james webb finds more and more clues that the big bang theory might be worng then scientists might start doing experimnets etc in order to come up with newer theories. The big bang theory currently gets more predictons wrong than right. Also, wether or not the universe is infinite years old i do not know. I would now be surprised tho if it was. The idea that the universe was infinately hot and dense and came from nothing is already hard to graspe yet everyone beleives without question. Also, the universe does some alreasdy weird things like time dilation etc that who would beleive 150 years ago? it sounds like magic or science fiction. What the heck is the problem exactly with the timeless universe? People are so biased.
They may not have been what some expected, but they are exactly what some YECs predicted we would see. Dr. Jason Lisle, for instance, predicted years ago that we would find fully formed galaxies. But surprised or not, this is all super exciting!
@Rohishimoto
Жыл бұрын
There are so many basic tenants of science that this discovery relies upon that are fundamentally incompatible with Young Earth Creationism. Not to mention the many areas where Jason's theory seems to not hold water. Science is pretty confident in our observations of galaxies that distinguish between old and new ones, with varying features that suggest the process of maturation. Young Earth Creationism isn't even really backed up by the Bible, it's intended basis for the entire theory, much less science.
@GodwynDi
Жыл бұрын
That was new to me. Had to go read up on it a bit.
Great video, what's the background music?
WOW, beautiful created images....
Idk it's all weird, the more we know, the less we THOUGHT we knew ended up being true. My brain hurts but this is all so cool lol.
@Darth_Insidious
Жыл бұрын
What we think of as reality is just the best approximation of it that we can make with the tools currently at our disposal. As our knowledge of the universe expands, we will come to know increasingly more about what we don't know.
@adamnwizard
Жыл бұрын
@@Darth_Insidious Well said! I would only expect such words from a wizard! 😉
Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." A quotation from a youtube video called "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere": "Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion." So cosmologists apply the expansion solutions only to voids deprived of even the slightest gravity. To galaxies and galactic clusters they apply nonexpansion solutions. This is not expansion overcome by gravity; rather, this is gravity and no expansion at all. Why do cosmologists resort to this trick? Because, if they applied expansion solutions to galaxies and galactic clusters, observations would immediately disprove the expansion theory. Here is why: If expansion is actual inside galaxies and galactic clusters, the competition between expansion and gravitational attraction would distort those cosmic structures - e.g. fringes only weakly bound by gravity would succumb to expansion and fly away. And the theory, if it takes into account the intragalactic expansion, will have to predict the distortions. No distortions are observed - there is really no expansion inside galaxies and galactic clusters. And cosmologists, without much publicity, have simply made the theory consistent with this fact. Since there is no expansion inside galaxies and galactic clusters, there is no expansion anywhere else.
Thinking about our origins and how many ancestors we have and how I'm able to watch this video in high def on a handheld device and drive a nice car that starts when it's -50 because it's fuel injected and so many things makes me so grateful that I'm alive right now.
Fascinating!