How It Works: Economics - XP and Credits | World of Warships
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00:00- Learn how to play smart and earn more XP and Credits in battle!
00:25- What actions maximize XP and Credit income?
01:55- What’s potential damage and how does it affect your earnings?
03:00- Are some ship types more lucrative than others?
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@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
All the "the news on your server" does is link right back here, where we already are.
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
How is the contents of this video different from the contents of the 2019 video of a similar name? (Admittedly, some things are presented a bit more clearly. )
@delta720728
3 жыл бұрын
無用資訊,就跟你說co op 人類玩家太多,常常bot不夠打,使用cv每一場都虧錢。不如設計整場coop只有我一個人類玩家
could you explain why you stopped us from getting signals for achievements, or is it just your typical wg cash grab forcing people to buy them or go without ?
Would have been nice if an actual example with numbers was shown as well. (maybe a regular end result screen explained in detail)
Why wows remove achievements flag rewards? Everyone wants it back.
@FrankensteinV203
3 жыл бұрын
because they want money lol, the game is becoming increasingly pay to win
I am missing how achievements benefit to the earnings. With the signal rewards disappearing I would hope the achievements at least add to something.
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
That Achievements contribute to earnings at all is known only from very old documents that may no longer apply. How much they contribute has never been mentioned.
@mikejansen9344
3 жыл бұрын
@@iDuckman this is my main point. It's unclear. Based on this explanation achievements do not influence base income. With the removal of the signal flags this mean they have lost all value, that we know of.
I wish playing objectives gave more XP. Yesterday a divisionmate and I were on two brothers and my divisionmate went through the middle. No one intercepted him and he managed to capture the base. He ended up as the third from the bottom in base XP even though he was the one that won us the game. No wonder People are oftentimes so selfish and rather keep shooting instead of playing smart. Playing smart doesn't give enough points. Edit: This is mostly about standard battles where capturing immediately wins the game and prevents you from dealing more damage making capturing a very unattractive thing to do.
Despite all the unrelated comments, I just want to say thank you very much for these clear outlines, I really appreciate this information being out there.
@greatmatt301
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was pretty good, I would have liked to see some specific examples like how many credits exactly a NC would have earned dealing 30K damage to a yammy.
@708sal123
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you can answer this question. But are XP and Credits linked? Do you get a specific Credit per specific XP. I’m asking for Legends. I’m told by Wowsl community that more XP = more credit. The video appears to suggest that these aren’t directly tied on pc so I’m curious about Xbox - PS version.
@edwardliu111
2 жыл бұрын
@@708sal123 No, they have different reward schemes, but Legends may be different
What about implementing a better XP bonus for potential and spotting damage? I do 100k spotting damage average every Midway round, or 2 million potential damage on Venezia and I get almost no extra XP for it. Would be nice to get some more base xp for this in future!
@macdam11
3 жыл бұрын
Carrier spotting is broken at the moment, so I think they won`t change that. Maybe if they implement it like radar, therefore having a bit of delay would make sense.
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
"and I get almost no extra XP for it." The fact is, *you don't know* how much XP you got for it. So this statement is nonsense.
its not so hard WG. Make things clear 1: show the xp and cretits earnings in real time (like any other game does) 2: show how much the repair of the ship costs (in port, like wt does) And show the % chance of geting something in containers
Unless you ramp up spotting/potential damage numbers its always "DMG>> Everything" You also left yout that winning adds flat bonus for your team, so if you are exceptionally good, you can outearn the winner even when losing, furher undermining the will to "play for win" and incentivising "play for DMG".
Now we only need actual good flipping XP gains for potential and spotting damage cause that is so unrewarding compared to the other factors
@Cocokyria
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's why no battleship cares about taking damage and cv/dd's about spotting upon damage unfortunately :(
@kuninagako9035
3 жыл бұрын
How do u think us bbs feel when we do tank we get 0 reward for tanking. Also where the hell are the assist medals like kill assists would be nice hate having done 98% of dmg to a ship just to watch other take the kill like why assist should have been add day 1.
150k spotting damage and 1 cap on Neustrashimy, 900 base xp earned, deserved it?
So, cruisers are the way to go as earners...
@Dukenukem
3 жыл бұрын
no, Missouri is. Cruisers are glorified flating citadels
@Lancista
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dukenukem And "Might Mo" is one of the easiest ships to be burned to death! 😂
I wish spotting damage for DDs was rewarded better. It sure feels under appreciated considering that is damage that couldn't have happened w/out the spotting. We all know how much of an advantage it is when one side on a flank has a DD out front keeping everyone spotted and the other side doesn't. It's almost deterministic of the outcome for that flank.
This game needs assist medals like kill assist. Also please fix how fires and HE works it needs a rework like ap and flooding got.
However, potential damage brings little, if not none, profits even to BB
00:50 and nothing in game such as helping team mates put out fires on their ships with your repair crews. Where is the team work people? Can you make a new "How it works" for map spawning? I would like to know the WG game mechanics behind opening spawn selection before the battle starts. For example, why are ship map spawns are so close to other team mates? Such as either AFK players or poor turn radius ships interfering with opening moves. Why are all radar ships on one side of the map (port or starboard) for the team on spawn instead of balanced over the map on spawn? Why are DD's, CA's, or BB's not balanced (port or starboard) on deployment? It appears they are all slanted in their deployment instead of spread out on the map for spawn deployment.
@stevemc01
3 жыл бұрын
THIS RIGHT HERE
There's one important thing that was missed in this episode: explaining the value of premium ships for boosted economy (how much each tier makes, how much more credits/XP premium ships make, etc.)
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
That will probably be address in Part 3.
I see WG is still abusing Fuso...some things never change
And why can’t you give us an xp and credits earned in real time like a whole lot of other games do? Because you like to hide the fact the your xp and credits system makes no sense at all. This video literally tells us nothing useful.
If you get detonated then you should have repair cost covered if you had over 25% of your health remaining.
When we getting Matchmaking: How it Works... because it doesn't. 🤣🤣🤣
question. But are XP and Credits linked? Do you get a specific Credit per specific XP. I’m asking for the Legends version of the game. I’m told by Wowsl community that more XP = more credit. The video appears to suggest that these aren’t directly tied to each other for the pc version so I’m curious about their relationship on the Xbox - PS version.
I like the fact you can lower the prices and xp of ships with clan bonuses.
How do i use credits
Good to know about the different classes' proportional rewards, fills in a hole that explains some of the toxic hate I receive on a daily basis. Doesn't explain why those people feel the need to be that hateful, but it does explain some of their frustration with the "newb."
Hello, I've got a question! Will it someday maybe possible to play my earned ships also in both of the other two games?
@auturgicflosculator2183
3 жыл бұрын
No. Conceivably in a new game, but given their historical actions it seems unlikely that WG would use that particular incentive to migrate their player base.
Anddd Fuso is one of the target again
My earnings per battle cap at 500xp most of the time but in some cases I got 100xp and maybe tens of thousands of credits. It’s a bit ridiculous as after tier 4 it can take up to 80 battles per ship or even more just to progress.
@NoBallsInWomensStalls
2 жыл бұрын
IT SHOULD TAKE LONGER. You think you know how to play and rush up the tiers and screw it up for everyone else that put the time in to learn it.
@jiaweichew3370
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoBallsInWomensStalls I mean in some cases if feels not worth the time when I don’t earn a decent amount, my aircraft carrier earnings are always 50% of that of other ships even if I did more damage or kills.
how much do you exactly get from potientional damage???
@NoBallsInWomensStalls
2 жыл бұрын
u get the proverbial pat on the back. Much like spotting.
Useful video.
Does killing fighter planes also award the same amount of XP/Creds as attack planes/bombers?
@danh7411
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, "no matter the type"
Ok, what did they change this time?
You can only convert xp from a premium by buying dubs right?
@IneptSystem
2 жыл бұрын
yes
@samuelblake
2 жыл бұрын
Dubs?
@bruce3579
2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelblake dublones
Now if a version for World of Warships Blitz was added, I'd known what fits better
Can you please make a video on the "How It Works" series I would like to know how capping bases and points works
@Otawyy
3 жыл бұрын
teams earn no points income when no cap is taken, killing an enemy ship removes points from the enemy points pool and adds some points to your pool, the amount of points received and removed from killing enemy ships varies depending on the type of ship that died (in order : CVs give the most, followed by BBs, cruisers and destroyers), you cap by staying in the zone and not being shot at, a cap cannot be taken if there is an enemy ship inside of it and contesting caps blocks the point income from said cap. Idk if that was your question but if it was, I hope you understood
@petahhut4780
3 жыл бұрын
I knew all that but I was wondering why I get Assisted in capture when someones in and Captured when someones in also
Can you guys pls rework the physics in the blitz
i wish i had a desktop computer and a pc so i can play this game this game is so good
@Jake-wz2ts
2 жыл бұрын
It’s on console
That means i cud have got like 2 to 3 million credits per match if it really counted damage delt n recieve
For big spreadsheet people you sure left out a lot of numbers on this one. Could've at least given us the percent bonus for shooting higher tier ships vs equal tier.
@KnodsilMemeMaker
3 жыл бұрын
I believe its +10% for each tier. So if (VIII) North Carolina damages (X) Yamato, she gets a +20% bonus.
now i see why i still get xp even when i did crap all. dodging shells!
Does this count for wows blitz too?
@ayayaybamba3445
3 жыл бұрын
It's likely similar, but I doubt it's the same
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
No
Does this economics applied also from blitz Pls tell me
Why aren't you showing actual numbers and why did you stop doing that?
Fusō: *sweats*
if you deal 90% dmg to shimikaze and 90% dmg to montana you get same amount of credits and xp ... that is so idiotic
@rechtsguy4005
3 жыл бұрын
Well, they did said it’s base on percentage. If you deal 30k HP to the Montana and only 20k on the Kitakaze, of cource you can’t deal the same 30k on the Kitakaze, you wont get the same amount of credit from that. You’ll only get pissed from it. So it’s a fair deal.
place submarines for other players from other platforms please
Boy ohh boy did you leave out TONS of information. Like the percentage you get from spotting, as a DD what's the incentive? Nothing, so cruisers gets the most from spotting? That's just stupid, you will never find a cruiser providing spotting, if so they're dead, DD's usually get dead. Makes sense that CV's won't get due to the complete lack of risk for providing spotting. That however forces CV's to ignore spotting and go for damage as spotting is a waste of time for them. Then again, spotting damage provides virtually NO exp and credit. Capping provide some, Airplane damage provide some (3 caps will yield you quite a bit (as detailed here)), but it all boils down to 1 thing: damage. Do damage and you get rewarded, the rest is almost ignorable. The ONLY reason to get spotting damage is if you require it for missions, if not, just ignore it and farm damage, it's not good for the team, I know, but spotting and capping is not worth it for you, you basically make sure that the BB and Cruiser players gets exp and gold and you nothing. WG should change how the spotting damage mechanic and reward works!
Fuck me my premium runs out in about 3 days... my xp is gonna go down by a landfall.
So how do we get stuff? “Play the game lol”
I don't wanna compare it with other games or even just WoT, but just compare this vid with the old version HiW: eco. This one loses lotta detail than the old one. I don't know if you have deleted/changed them or just don't wanna talk about them. But yeah, it's still by any means a useful vid for the newbie. BTW, will you consider if it's possible to also include "average damage as a percentage" in the player statistic since you calculate exp as percentage-based, a percentage-based statistic can maybe adjust the "average damage" farmer, maybe? And yeah, just mention that exps from potential damage and spotting damage is just unsatisfactory. From my pov, it's fundamental how the player base will act in-game. Anyway, the "player action - archetype balance - eco sys" are all in the same META system, I just hoping you guys doing well or to say, better. Then we take the good game, and you take the money, XDDDD
Back to bullying Fuso
Came here looking to find how to convert xp from free xp.
The value (in terms of exp/credits gain) of spotting and potential damage is an absolute joke. You know it, we know it.
@ibnu9969
3 жыл бұрын
apparently newer players dont, and WG will keep it that way
Bonjour Ce n est pas la peine de nous demander de s'abonner a la chaine et de n avoir aucun sous titre en Français.
anyhow, damage contribute the major reward and others like potential damage,spotting(damage) give you way more less reward than anyone had expected. so no wonder BB hits the border and spamming HEs. no wonder DD detaching from the key area and keep spamming shells or torps (depending on the nations, and you even created France DD and German Branch which should even be classified as "light cruiser").Congratulations. Now all we should care about is how to harvest credits in random battles meanwhile ignoring teamates' backup requesting just because DAMAGE MAKES MORE CREDITS!
making progress without premium, especially after T9 is ruining continious game... upkeep prices is must have to be more reasonable!!!
@ibnu9969
3 жыл бұрын
meh, save some coal to buy a premium T9/10 ship in the armory, you will never run out of money again
@Don_Lemino
2 жыл бұрын
Yep it is so hard for me that I have to sell more than 4 ships to get just Montana
@omerfarukcetinkaya5943
2 жыл бұрын
@@Don_Lemino I left playing mate... only playing when premium active and playing little... not anymore, 3 years ago Game is better but now, Idk
and now just actually reward spotting k
Just give us back flag rewards for achievements already wargaming! I am not enjoying the random containers at all.
@PatrickPanzerschreck
3 жыл бұрын
They changed that because the majority of the community was crying abou signals beeing "too easy to obtain".
@erdalguclu
3 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickPanzerschreck What? Are people insane? Or does this game doesn't have F2Ps anymore?
@PatrickPanzerschreck
3 жыл бұрын
@@erdalguclu I dunno, I am definetly against it. But it seems the most people like it that way.
So like that..
Open water gunboating FTW.
recycled videos, there was another one 5 years ago. please let us know how much xp we gain from each type of action
What about ranked? Why does the enemy team always has two radar ships while mine has none!!!
scouting for 200k damage with CV, and it means nothing.
1 point, hit your enemy, don't get a hit, ignore the team, awesome
This is ridiculous, i have the iowa and after earning 250k+ in credits i was left only with 100k due to service, this makes me not want to play
@OldmavericWoW
2 жыл бұрын
Better than world of tanks… play tier 10 TD and you get to shoot once per battle maybe twice and you still lose credits. Even when you 1 shot a heavy tank.
@kyledj189
2 жыл бұрын
Bro i lost 4m in a day cuz of the iowa
Los que usamos portaaviones 🤡🤡🤡
@enzomartinez2698
3 жыл бұрын
Vivimos en una sociedad donde los porta aviones, la pieza mas importante de la guerra del pasifico en la segunda guerra, obtiene la menor cantidad de exp en un juego de la segunda guerra mundial jajajajaja
別跟我說這些有的沒的規定,你用t8 cv去打一場co op 絕對 - $ 虧錢
Well maybe now people will shoot at DDs instead of farming battleships
@volknetai.3690
3 жыл бұрын
DD is a target that people likely to shoot first anyway
@Routerproblem
3 жыл бұрын
@@volknetai.3690 not really
@kuninagako9035
3 жыл бұрын
Not likely do to all the HE spam ships from hell watched 3 Crusiers a mino, al. Nevsky, and smol ignore 2 dds that were chasing us bbs torping us and burning us down we were 7kms from are crusiers asking for help but no they wanted ro sit in smoke and farm bbs when 2 dds were 8km away from them. All of us died to there torps and HE even. Then they complained that us bbs dont kill the 2 dds it was a complete Facepalming moment dont know what they expected from a Vermont, yamato, and kermlin its not like we are the mighty mo with radar or germans with hydro there was nothing we could plus we are the slowest ships in game.
@tianhanglan1183
3 жыл бұрын
more than half of player base does not want to shoot at dds even when it is closest. More than half of those players that willing to shoot dds are not good enough to hit a DD more than 8km away.
@kuninagako9035
3 жыл бұрын
@@tianhanglan1183 yup had to move over to light Crusiers because no one can kill a dd so now a shield my bbs and dds from planes and enemy dds and the funniest things happen bbs push the caps and dds stay alive hhmm who would have thought
Why in 2 minutes in do you go from showing formulas to not showing formula's? is there something to hide or do you not want it known (which it likely is in other non WOWS sources) how much credit/damage differences there is.. whats the point of starting by telling us how things are done in detail then stopping half way through the video by basically saying "behind the curtain stuff happens" Very bad.
@auturgicflosculator2183
3 жыл бұрын
There are formulas around 2:40 and 3:20... if you're expecting them all to be in the same mathematical format, you may have missed the point of the video.
BUT WORLD OF WARSHIPS why don't you have a Credit/Exp bonus based on how CLOSE to the CAPS which are MASSIVELY IMPORTANT.. so people are rewarded and learn behavior to PLAY NEAR CAPS. - rather than kiting to the borders of maps which can yield results in some situations but in many in the WRONG direction to play when playing capture the flag/area.
@martyrudd5385
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this. Reward play that controls the objectives.
How it works: money, don't always feel right if i got a kraken and get cheated on by money
Yo
if this was 2016 is a great video....5 years late
@PatrickPanzerschreck
3 жыл бұрын
I believe they allready had a video about that. They are now just remaking them (could be wrong, though I'm sure there were videos about that)
quero esse video em portugues
FUSO again?
How It Works: You only give one container of money to WG 🙃
Damage = Credits & XP. Everything else doesnt get rewarded. No matter what they telling you.
@VRichardsn
3 жыл бұрын
Source?
Xp points and credits giving in perfect fake or randomly after my oppinion. Does'nt matter how good are you, 5 battles win with 29.000 credits with tier IX cruiser....
Tanking has no reward well done I always die in Kremlin tanking for others and not even doing 60K damage what about that? Service cost OMG how much it is high for tier X really I am always in loss if I don't take a camo in Kremlin
@PrivatePinguin
3 жыл бұрын
Have you missed the first Part of the Video? xD
@ayayaybamba3445
3 жыл бұрын
You should always be running camo
after watching this, imagine all those credits sink into repairs. the only economy is how much you are willing to pay for premium account so you dont lose credits when losing
this doenst expain why i keep losing xp
How It Works? It doesn't...
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Where all translate language ? 😐
going by this logic, destroyers can be up to 10 times more valuable targets than battleships from an economical standpoint. something doesn't seem right here. . .
@FrAnC3sCoN123
3 жыл бұрын
they are becuase theyre the ones spotting for the team and capturing points. battleships tend to stay back in the spawn point sniping enemy BBs
@iDuckman
3 жыл бұрын
What logic leads you there? The ships have the *same value* ; it just takes less actual damage to get the full value from DDs. And there are a number of mechanics that hinder you from getting that damage.
@danh7411
3 жыл бұрын
If you compare to real life, sure, 1 BB worth a lot more than a single DD but you must know that WG designed a DD in game to represent a while fleet of them
@aimin6469
3 жыл бұрын
that seems very right there... dds are the most important ships with the most roles in the game so its extremly important to take them down and not as easy as otherships because of their concealment... so you get rewarded if you kill/damage them. sounds fine to me
Deal damage on your own spotting for credits and xp....all other methods are junk.
balance cv !
希望影片看完 大家能積極點 別像條鹹魚 OWO
Heh plaz add Greek ships and cool
can you stop bullying fuso please
Can you please get back to the old Aircraft carrier I want to so much please please I want to get back to the old aircraft carrier please
@swanky_yuropean7514
3 жыл бұрын
why do you want that?
@jeffyjeff-sv4qx
3 жыл бұрын
@@swanky_yuropean7514
@jeffyjeff-sv4qx
3 жыл бұрын
because the old aircraft carrier you can launch 2 plane at the same time And you can launch fighters and there was more aircraft carrier not 4 Aircraft carrier
Why dont you explain to ppl that if you want to play at the higher 2 tiers you are pretty much forced to pay for premium to be able to get credits enough . the cost to resupply the ships are to high even if u win the game and did your part most of the times you lose credits due to the high costs of resupply
@edwardliu111
3 жыл бұрын
Why is this necessarily a bad thing? They want you to play at t6=8, that's where alotta premiums/historical ships are at :p
@ibnu9969
3 жыл бұрын
Save some coal to buy a T9/10 ship in the armory, you will never run out of credits again
First
Better dedicate yourselves to improving the matchmaking system and the RGN issue that is rubbish, how is it possible that they will kill you in the smoke, that they will lower you 8k and you only lower 3k, instead of taking out more ships to have more money they should of worry about their community or that they are already more Mr. Krabs
@ibnu9969
3 жыл бұрын
git gud
9th comment and try to make WoWs offline ples
@ayayaybamba3445
3 жыл бұрын
They will never do this. The reason is that it would mean that the code for the AI ships would need to be downloaded to your personal machine meaning that bots (which are already a huge problem) would be much easier to make.
EICH PI
The spotting and spotting damage rewards are stupid. A CV flies around and easily spots but it earns at a greater rate than a BB? The VP of Bad Ideas exceeded job expectations again.
Your cousins with consoles do it better. Nuff said.
OLD and outdated video...
@gabite6728
3 жыл бұрын
simple reupdload
@lexmaximaguy8788
3 жыл бұрын
@@gabite6728 yup
@redthorne5643
3 жыл бұрын
It even has RTS CV gameplay in it... :))
@gabite6728
3 жыл бұрын
@@redthorne5643 "to remember good old days"