How Is Spice Made In Dune Universe? Why Is It Only Found In Arrakis? How It turns people's eyes blue

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How Is Spice Made In Dune Universe? Why Is It Only Found In Arrakis? How Spice Is Keeping The Entire Dune Universe Afloat?

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  • @RashiekFerris
    @RashiekFerris Жыл бұрын

    In God Emperor it was suggested by Leto that the sandworms were not indigenous to Arakis, but were brought there by humans millenia ago, much like the remnants of ancient structures thought to be of alien origin but were remnants of earlier interstellar human. Sorry I am an old nerd born in a time when reading was the only escat from the humdrum of life and I was introduced to Science Fiction via the Dune novel.

  • @jude_I

    @jude_I

    8 ай бұрын

    nahhh I think you're cool asf!! I'd love to talk about dune with you! what is your Twitter username?? id love to connect.

  • @tomfoolery5680

    @tomfoolery5680

    7 ай бұрын

    Weren't the ruins they found determined to be the first no ship made by Leto II in secret being backed up by how Miles Teg, a Duncan ghola and the others to hide there immune to prescience Since the Spacing Guild had no record or knowledge of taking him there or even of the planet it was found on I always felt it was alluding to Leto being able to either manipulate his ancestors' actions in the past or somehow travel either through space or time independently. Just a thought.

  • @tomfoolery5680

    @tomfoolery5680

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh. Another thing about the worms, Leto II knew the worms weren't indigenous to Arakis but didn't seem to know who brought them there, where they originated or when it happened even. So again, just my own assumption, but I took it to be implying that the pre jihad thinking machines must've done it to avoid melange being discovered by humans which wouldve eliminated their dependence on the machines and thus a reason to keep them around. Just a thought. Would love to hear your input on it. By the by, if you haven't seen Quinns Ideas' channel Dune series, you should. He really goes deep into the concepts and lore behind the story. Great stuff.

  • @phoboskittym8500

    @phoboskittym8500

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tomfoolery5680 the machines would have just wiped out the worms... Not bothered to transport them on presumably pre-ftl ships to a random planet The Worms are why Arrakis has almost no water, they desertify the planet Ancient terraforming? Is it all because of those old people in the Garden? Did they send the worms there?

  • @tomfoolery5680

    @tomfoolery5680

    3 ай бұрын

    @@phoboskittym8500 not if the machines' actions were contingent upon any combo of human input, approval, or coding. It could be that a human agent or whole agency, either ignorant to or not fully understanding the scope of the value and utility of melange

  • @bacchusbegins
    @bacchusbegins3 ай бұрын

    Spice is not worm poop or sandtrout poop. Willis McNelly, author of The Dune Encyclopedia, confirmed that when he was writing the book Frank Herbert tested him by asking him if he had figured out what spice was? McNelly said that he had surmised it was sperm to fertilize the nests. Frank Herbert smiled and said Yes. Thus, spice is worn sperm.

  • @frankcotten

    @frankcotten

    3 ай бұрын

    It is where sand trout come from.

  • @dominiclapinta8537

    @dominiclapinta8537

    2 ай бұрын

    So basically, just as the oceans are salty because whales do it in the water, so the sand is spicy because sand worms procreate in the sand?

  • @bogan8865

    @bogan8865

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dominiclapinta8537no it’s because of all the elements on earth. SALT MAKES UP ALMOST 5% OF THE EARTH TOTAL. That’s one of the largest single percentages of any element. Iron is highest at 35% and aluminum is 8%. Salt is next.

  • @dominiclapinta8537

    @dominiclapinta8537

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bogan8865 nah, that's just something they made up to sound eloquent. It's because whales procreate.

  • @bogan8865

    @bogan8865

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dominiclapinta8537 whale sperm isn’t salty. Human sperm is salty because of our genetic composition, THAT HAS ALOT OF SALT. Whale PISS, IS SALTY, because they have special liver that allows them to drink salt water while expelling all the salt from it in their urine. Their sperm HAS NO SALT. If you had said whale piss, I’d only slightly agree with you. Because no matter what, no creature on the planet is effecting the taste of the ocean more than 5% of the total earth being made of salt. If you take a glass of water and fill 5% of the glass with salt, I promise it wasn’t sea creatures making your cup salty. It was the 5% composition that existed long before any creatures that made that taste

  • @NathanSeraph
    @NathanSeraph Жыл бұрын

    🧐According to Dune encyclopedia spice melange has a chemical structure with some similarity to chlorophyll the green pigment of plants or heme the red pigment of blood. The interesting difference between the 3 compounds is the bound metal ion in their molecular center. While magnesium is bound in green chlorophyll, it is iron in red heme. In the spice melange, on the other hand, it is copper. Copper compounds, again, are often characterized by an intense blue coloration. Well-known examples of this are copper sulphate or copper nitrate. Although the spice itself is not blue, it may be possible that the substance is metabolized in the human body into a bluish copper compound, which then accumulates as a blue dye in the eyes.

  • @Serveanthesia

    @Serveanthesia

    3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like Wilson’s disease. Interesting-makes sense though!

  • @ericwilliams2546

    @ericwilliams2546

    2 ай бұрын

    Copper turns blue/green because it is oxidized, I would imagine that you could change it's color based on what element is bonding with the copper, or I would imagine you'd be able to anodize copper to different colors. Anodizing traps the color in evenly through the metal compound though where oxidization would actually change the element into a colored compound. Anodizing is how we have so many different colored aluminum things that never scratch showing a different color or fading/chipping. The statue of liberty is oxidization. There are different gasses that can combine with metals but it's not that common on earth because the two main gasses in our air is nitrogen (a pretty stable gas and that likes to bond with itself and doesn't like breaking bonds already made) and oxygen (extremely unstable and loves bonding with whatever it can find). I would imagine some really cool compounds could be found on a planet with metals and an environment that contains high amounts of Sulfur, Selenium, Fluoride, Chlorine, Bromine, or Iodine.

  • @kingcolz

    @kingcolz

    2 ай бұрын

    Contact lenses. Duh...

  • @miss.l.1563

    @miss.l.1563

    2 ай бұрын

    *whispers* “Spice melange” South Park parody was 👍😂👍.

  • @TheMimiSard
    @TheMimiSard2 ай бұрын

    The books actually implied that the Worms are _not_ native to Arrakis, but were placed there some time in the past. They were the reason Arrakis is a desert, because their embryonic form, Sand Trout, capture and surround water in the process of growing into Worms. Interestingly, Sand Worms seem to be gestalt creatures made up of a large number of sand trout that have interwoven themselves together. Part of what made Leto II into the God Emperor is that he was able to coax sand trout into interweaving themselves into a skin around him, but that also meant interweaving into his own body, digging filaments into him. As a group of trout grow into a worm, Leto's sand trout grew into his worm body, until he was dumped into a river that caused his worm body to fall apart into it's component trout, leaving him bleeding out from where their filaments withdrew. He survived to give his descendant Siona a last message.

  • @Nefylym

    @Nefylym

    2 ай бұрын

    .... what? what was the messagE?! TALK DAMN YOU!!!!

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    2 ай бұрын

    its confirmed by an ancient ship found under Arrakeen thats been there for thousands of years, a long time before the fremen founded Arrakeen before the Harrkonans took the city from them

  • @TRak598

    @TRak598

    Ай бұрын

    AFAIK Siona isn't his descendant, but a descendant of his sister, Ghanima Atreides. Provided Leto II was indeed husband to Ghanima from the moment he ascended to the throne until she died, they never had intimate relationships, both because they saw no point in producing a heir (they were pre-born, thus deeply intimate without needing to be any physical and also why the fuck would they be so eager to commit inbreeding) and because Leto II himself was physically unable to even have sex. Ghanima took Farad'n Corrino (Irulan's nephew, Shaddam's grand-nephew) as her concubine and it's their children who continue the Atreides, Harkonnen and Corrino lineages. Worth nothing that it was sort of Leto's decision for Farad'n to be his sister's concubine.

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    Ай бұрын

    @@TRak598 everything Leto II did was the pursuit of the golden path, including Siona and everything in her life though most likely she was a luxury to him, a distraction

  • @TheMimiSard
    @TheMimiSard2 ай бұрын

    I am glad this video highlights that Navigators use Spice for Prescience. They navigate by Future-Vision. The actual engines that move ships is just machines, but dodging obstacles is the Navigator job. I likened it to a line in Star Wars, where Han Solo tells Luke that they need to wait for the navicomputer to calculate a course or they will fly through a black hole or bounce too close to a supernova and that will end your trip real quick. Dune Navicomputers are people who take Spice to see a little bit of the future.

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    2 ай бұрын

    not exactly right, in Dune FTL is done through the act of folding space the prescience of the Navigators is more to pinpoint the specific location they're traveling to ensure that when they fold space their ships don't transition into planets when it moves between 2 points in space. folding space in the books is described as being both the destination and origin point being in the same point and then it flexes back with the ship in the destination point, there is a risk of doing this blindly and transitioning into a planet, asteroids, moons and stars since its impossible to know what lies at the destination and navigators can use their prescience to basically run numbers of possible outcomes to ensure their safety

  • @SandyRodriguez
    @SandyRodriguez11 ай бұрын

    So basically the dune universe is about a bunch of junkies fighting over who can get the most high?

  • @jamesricker3997

    @jamesricker3997

    11 ай бұрын

    Withdraw is fatal, with no exceptions. Any interruption in the flow of spice causes the ruling classes to panic.

  • @paavobergmann4920

    @paavobergmann4920

    6 ай бұрын

    The junkies are mainly fighting over who is to control space travel. No space travel - no trade - no politics - no Empire. That´s the main thing. The psychedelic effects are only used by religious sects like the Fremen and the Bene Gesserit. The Navigator´s Guild use its mental effects only to fold space, and the induced clairvoyance to navigate safe paths through causality, avoiding calamities for the Heighliners. Getting totally plastered and super addicted is merely a tolerated side effect for them. For the bene gesserit, it is the main deal.

  • @angelbangtana9885

    @angelbangtana9885

    3 ай бұрын

    Literally, yes

  • @hal90001

    @hal90001

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @thepopeofkeke

    @thepopeofkeke

    2 ай бұрын

    To fold space and like tell the future

  • @EternalRoman
    @EternalRoman Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that ALL the versions onscreen of DUNE were used on this video, and finally the Spice Melange was explained perfectly, aside two things. One: The Mentats used of Spice is minimal, because they mix it with another drug Juice from the fruit of Saphoo. The Juice of Saphoo is what gives the Mentats their telltale signs of Stained Lips, since the Saphoo Fruit stains them and the mark becomes permanent. Two: Paul "Muad'Dib" Atreides was the result of the Bene Gesserit Special Breeding Program that they control, and based on this breeding program that made his birth possible because his Mother disobeyed the Sisterhood. Also with both training as Mentat and Bene Gesserit bestowed on him by the Mentat Thufir Hawatt, and his mom Jessica, plus the Spice unlocked, Paul's Prescience powers and his Children were basically Altered at the womb by their mom Chani consuming large amounts of Spice. And Three: The Bene Thlailax weren't able to recreate Spice artificially for a long time, and when they did, it was called Super Spice because the effects were exaggerated and would put anyone that consumed it into an eternal Prescience Coma till they died. So essentially the artificial Spice was useless. Aside these three points, this vid had the best explanation of Spice and most of its details, and again, so awesome to see all Three Versions of onscreen DUNE productions and the sequel to 2000s DUNE, Children of DUNE with James McAvoy as Leto II (III).

  • @BillyFMitchell

    @BillyFMitchell

    11 ай бұрын

    Also sand worms and sand trout are not indigenous but they were introduced to dune eons ago. Dune used to be a wet planet before the (edit: worms) were introduced.

  • @EternalRoman

    @EternalRoman

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BillyFMitchell Exactly!

  • @mishikookropiridze

    @mishikookropiridze

    8 ай бұрын

    Artificial spice was not useless where do you get this information?

  • @EternalRoman

    @EternalRoman

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mishikookropiridze In the novels, specifically when Paolo used it and put him in an unbreakable Prescient trance where he would die. That was the issue with the Super Spice, the fact that it was too powerful that it was useless.

  • @mishikookropiridze

    @mishikookropiridze

    8 ай бұрын

    @@EternalRoman That is i assume from expanded dune series. i don't read them.

  • @chestterfield
    @chestterfield2 ай бұрын

    When I got older, my scleras stayed blue (it's the sign of all the connectiviti tissue problems- I have hEDS) and since my dad is a big Dune fan, he always told me that I was adopted from Arrakis XD

  • @CountingStars333

    @CountingStars333

    2 ай бұрын

    What's a dawa

  • @uknowbass
    @uknowbass3 ай бұрын

    There was FSL (faster than light) travel but it was a lot slower than folding space by the Holtzman engines. BUT, navigators found safe passages and thus lowered the risk of fold space.

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    2 ай бұрын

    yes, and Navigators needed to see the destination to predict if it was safe

  • @SciFiGuy72
    @SciFiGuy723 ай бұрын

    For most the Spice opens the mind to others of the community, it doesn't grant predictive ability. Even in the case of Guildsmen, it merely opens their ability to mentally commune. This extended sense is what seems to allow them to predict safe paths, though that has more to do with their mathematical and simulation abilities, making it possible for them to visualize conditions along their route. Paul is only able to predict since his training facilitates his computation of data inherent in his genetic memory. This is much the same facility that the Second Foundation has with the advent of Psychohistory.

  • @user-is9zn5hq1l
    @user-is9zn5hq1l2 ай бұрын

    The guild did not travel faster than light, they utilized holtzman engines to fold space, the navigator did the mental calculations that were needed to take both points and bring them together and the highlighter moved a few thousand feet into the next sector

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    2 ай бұрын

    indeed

  • @gamiezion
    @gamiezion3 ай бұрын

    spice is mentioned to enhance any and all dishes, the fremen for one taking it in each and every meal and drink because spice, like sand, was in everything. because it can enhance any dish i would argue it's taste is closer to umami, if not tasteless by itself. simply enhancing pleasant flavours present by improving the brains receptiveness to those stimuli. just my 2 cents on that particular matter.

  • @hal90001

    @hal90001

    3 ай бұрын

    It's alien msg

  • @gamiezion

    @gamiezion

    3 ай бұрын

    @@hal90001close enough i guess, though it's implied some human(s) made the worms to trap humanity in some larger scheme. it used to be a living planet and paul remarks the spice is perfectly tailored to human consumption to be an accident, there's also no other planets the worms live on. too boot; if they evolved naturally it could be expected there was more then 1 planet with the worms, either through convergent evolution or some kind of panspermia.

  • @dalektrekkie

    @dalektrekkie

    2 ай бұрын

    You'd be right if Jessica herself didn't say that it had similar taste to cinnamon. Unlike some of the stuff that gets said in the later Dune books, this isn't really a topic up for debate since Frank Herbert is the one that wrote Jessica saying it.

  • @gamiezion

    @gamiezion

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dalektrekkiein it's pure form you'd be right. but compounds change when mixed and cooked, meaning it's taste can change as well. ask any (bio) chemist.

  • @jayknight139

    @jayknight139

    2 ай бұрын

    which is why it taste different each time when taken alone.

  • @jackmercer4244
    @jackmercer42442 ай бұрын

    Spice Melange Dune snacks.. they have it at Costco. 20 bucks for a huge bag, individually wrapped to guaranteed freshness. Comes in Flaming Hot version.

  • @jessicajayes8326
    @jessicajayes8326 Жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of pumpkin spice. Imagine fall coming and my eyes start glowing blue-on-blue.

  • @Kulthul

    @Kulthul

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @ZomBabeZoe

    @ZomBabeZoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao I wouldn't mind that. Pumpkin Spice,when used correctly(by which I mean: not in spam,ramen,pasta or anything savoury) is delicious, even if some products take it too far

  • @vinceszurko8651

    @vinceszurko8651

    Жыл бұрын

    It would help in identifying and avoiding the Starbucks chicks

  • @orionsage7314
    @orionsage7314 Жыл бұрын

    The sandworms and the Fremen aren't native to Arrakis...it's stated many times in the books that the worms were brought there, though it is unknown by whom.

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    3 ай бұрын

    I could be totally wrong as my knowledge of the Dune universe is limited so feel free to correct me if I am at all wrong. Given the distinct lack of sapient beings of non-human origin, I would bet that the worms were brought there by previous spacefaring humans.

  • @kristopherleslie8343

    @kristopherleslie8343

    3 ай бұрын

    So chances are others are in the universe

  • @Wustenfuchs109

    @Wustenfuchs109

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Blasted2Oblivion Or simply the information was lost over thousands and thousands of years. Or never existed in the first place. It would not be the first time humans did something, didn't record it and later generations were left puzzled. Worms are indeed not native. Leto II knows that because he can see/sense that. But the truth behind it is fuzzy for him, because the worm tissue holds no memory of before Dune. Like a newborn not remembering time in the womb, and its early years are fuzzy, but he can later tell if he belongs somewhere or not. Maybe worms were a genetic experiment of some human group (there were many, doing all sort of stuff) and Dune was just chosen as a testing ground. Worms delivered there from the original facility and left to see what would happen. Secret development. And the information simply being forgotten/lost. We also know that Earth is almost completely forgotten in Dune universe. Very few even know of it, and no one knows where it is/was and what happened to it. And it is a cradle of humanity. So some secret cabal of geneticists similar to Tleilax, creating worms in some lab, shipping them around until they were dropped on Dune... why not? They could be much older than humanity. There could have been precursor civilization involved, aliens etc. But it does not have to. We simply do not know, and Dune leaves enough room for it to actually be humans who made them, or at least dropped them on Dune. Maybe during the expansion, finding them somewhere, exterminated them to make living space, and dropped the last surviving ones on a backwater planet no one wanted or cared about, as a form of natural reservation. No one knows.

  • @dalektrekkie
    @dalektrekkie2 ай бұрын

    Mentats don't actually need Spice. Some use it, but the majority use a different drug called Saffo Juice.

  • @fangslore9988

    @fangslore9988

    2 ай бұрын

    the saffo juice they use only works with spice added to it

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын

    Another great Dune video keep them coming.

  • @jamesgreep9344
    @jamesgreep9344 Жыл бұрын

    I love the implication that aside from making the nobility live longer, all the important functions of this mystical substance that this entire universe is obsessed with could be replaced by a TI-84 calculator.

  • @ricomock2

    @ricomock2

    Жыл бұрын

    Which version of the TI84 do I need to turn people into sentient lie detectors, unlock genetic memory, prompt massive orgys, and get Duncan Idaho absolutely hammered?

  • @jamesgreep9344

    @jamesgreep9344

    Жыл бұрын

    Like, a couple hundred people actually USE those abilities. For the purposes of everyone in the universe who isn’t a major character, the main practical use of this stuff is space travel and computation, both of which can be done with a calculator and a bit of effort.

  • @paavobergmann4920

    @paavobergmann4920

    6 ай бұрын

    The Butlerian Jihad explicitly forbade computers in its command "Thou shaltst not make a machine in the image of the human mind", hence no navigation computers, no calculators, therefor the need for mentats and navigators, ergo: the spice must flow.@@jamesgreep9344

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ricomock2 Seriously? The mere presence of the base version of a TI-84 prompts massive orgys. That's why they came in special cases.

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris3 ай бұрын

    South Park has a very interesting interpretation of the Spice Melange.

  • @Igiveashitofaname
    @Igiveashitofaname2 ай бұрын

    After watching this i just realised how much inspiration Warhammer 40K got from the Dune Universe

  • @bitharne

    @bitharne

    2 ай бұрын

    Most of it? 😂 No knocking…Necrons are my main jam after all.

  • @RezaQin

    @RezaQin

    29 күн бұрын

    GW stole a LOT.

  • @mikepryor7467
    @mikepryor7467 Жыл бұрын

    i would love to do a line of that blue eye worm shit

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently it works best if you eat it. Snorting it…you know what, that’s got me curious. What would happen if you snorted Melange? I imagine you end up getting perfect prescience like that Paul Clone in the last book; just completely comatose and stuck in the future

  • @mikepryor7467

    @mikepryor7467

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCorrodedMan i heard he “boofed” it

  • @ThingsThatIDo

    @ThingsThatIDo

    5 ай бұрын

    You and me both. 😂 I love cinnamon

  • @turdferguson2982

    @turdferguson2982

    4 ай бұрын

    Can you smoke it out of a lightbulb?

  • @mikepryor7467

    @mikepryor7467

    4 ай бұрын

    @@turdferguson2982 only women have done it and lived. it’d prophecized that one day a man will freebase it in a lightbulb and survive and he shall be the kwisatz haderach

  • @snafubare
    @snafubare Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to watch this one! 😅😂❤

  • @Blasted2Oblivion
    @Blasted2Oblivion3 ай бұрын

    One might think that, if there is just one planet with a finite but super vital resource, the society that feeds on it would be making massive efforts to replicate it or replace it with something renewable.

  • @beetreynolds8276

    @beetreynolds8276

    2 ай бұрын

    Spice is renewable since it’s just dried worm semen. It’s limited and dangerous but not labor intensive to harvest.

  • @jimcatanzaro7808
    @jimcatanzaro7808 Жыл бұрын

    Oh ya spice I love it

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Modern Spice: don’t take that YOU’LL DIE! Future Spice: Whoa man, what if, like, we shepherded humanity toward a better future

  • @ZomBabeZoe
    @ZomBabeZoe Жыл бұрын

    Random thought: you couldn't be a vegan and take spice because it's an animal byproduct lol

  • @ThingsThatIDo

    @ThingsThatIDo

    5 ай бұрын

    Most ate hypocrites so they probably would anyway 😅

  • @TheOriginalCK

    @TheOriginalCK

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ThingsThatIDoYou're probably confused with vegetarian diet. Because most vegans are actually very strict.

  • @l.acosta4739

    @l.acosta4739

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheOriginalCKvegetarian and vegan diets are the same thing. People just use the words wrong.

  • @weaponizedlizardmen360

    @weaponizedlizardmen360

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@l.acosta4739 that is extremely wrong... words have a meaning. Do you not understand the english language?

  • @CajunReaper95

    @CajunReaper95

    2 ай бұрын

    @@l.acosta4739 no they’re not, vegetarians will use some animal byproducts like milk and eggs they don’t eat the flesh or meats of animals meanwhile vegans don’t consume any animal byproducts that includes egg and dairy products their substitutes are things like almond milk, soy milk, tofu and meat substitutes, they don’t have the same dietary restrictions of what they can and cannot consume, like the person above me said words have a meaning!

  • @hyperguyver2
    @hyperguyver2 Жыл бұрын

    Because the smell and flavor is described as being like cinnamon, yet none of the 4D theaters I saw the new Dune in didn't smell like cinnamon while on Arakkis

  • @trumanshow162
    @trumanshow162Ай бұрын

    The setting of the Spice Melange is ingenious. It reflected the growing concern about the human uplift against the health degradation with civilization. However, the drug’s organic origin & scarcity retrogressed human society to feudalism. It also tells us the need for technology policies, economic & social policies, administrative management for wealth creation & distribution, or human abilities’ utilization like democracy.

  • @THEJAM-EATERS
    @THEJAM-EATERS3 ай бұрын

    The closest thing we have to spice is DMT. Hence its nickname "spice".

  • @jamesricker3997
    @jamesricker399711 ай бұрын

    The Spice is worm poop. The spice is addictive, withdrawal is 100% fatal. Everyone with any power is addicted

  • @xanderlaskey2753

    @xanderlaskey2753

    2 ай бұрын

    It is sperm Frank Herbert said it himself

  • @sdhubbard
    @sdhubbard Жыл бұрын

    This is an indeed a disturbing universe.

  • @GamingRoomOficial
    @GamingRoomOficial Жыл бұрын

    nice. I really liked it.

  • @bobotheclown88
    @bobotheclown88 Жыл бұрын

    is there a reason that these people can fold spacetime and have extremely powerful personal shield technology but they can' t make a spice harvesting device that does not attract sand worms?

  • @Wustenfuchs109

    @Wustenfuchs109

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes. It is called fantasy writing - rarely if ever can a writer create the world where everything makes sense. Usually they write things a certain way because they NEED them to be true in their world, but don't actually bother to explain how that completely illogical thing makes sense in their world. If no one picks up on it, they leave it as is. If there is enough of an uproar they tend to offer some half-assed explanation later that usually makes things even worse logic-wise and only rarely explains the actual plot hole. Dune universe is full of such nonsense... it is a terrible example of worldbuilding. But that is not the point of the Dune saga, which is why people don't pay that much attention to it. You are not to focus on the world, you are to focus on more philosophical topics that the work poses. The problem is, in a good sci-fi, those philosophical points and moral questions are usually connected and/or a result of the worldbuilding. And for a universe as Frank Herbert described in his books, you'd think that there would be hundreds of planets where worms were spread artificially by humans. After all, we are talking about essential substance for the existence of the said empire, yet that crucial resource is found on one planet, and one planet only, in the entire galaxy. Not only does it not make any sense, but it would have HUGE ramifications to the setting that Dune does not even scratch against let alone acknowledge them.

  • @jorgeenrique1277

    @jorgeenrique1277

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Wustenfuchs109of course it doesn’t make sense lol.With all that technology they still reverted back to hand to hand combat

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    3 ай бұрын

    Cinemasins actually raised an interesting point around that with Dune Part 1. It is stated that the harvesters aren't shielded because the shields attract the worms and send them into a frenzy. So why not just use a shield to draw them away from the harvester site? Surely replacing a shield generator is a lot cheaper than replacing an entire harvester.

  • @bobotheclown88

    @bobotheclown88

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Blasted2OblivionI was hoping there was an actual reason not an even bigger plot hole, lol. Oh well I guess this franchise is not for me, my brain asks too many annoying questions.

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    3 ай бұрын

    @@bobotheclown88 I have been there. The trick is to just force yourself to endure and you will eventually be able to turn that part of your brain off during movies. That or have a psychotic break and try to make your own movie with zero plot holes. Either way, win win.

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos69962 ай бұрын

    I know it's picking at the lore, but it always amazes me, no matter how big Arrakis is, how many worms there are, or how successful collection expeditions become, that there is, somehow, enough Spice to maintain the Imperium. It seems like a big place, with many people, and even just the Guild would need to use up so much, but they can somehow collect enough for them, for greedy nobles, and even a few other industries. Surprised there is that much of it, at a time, and that more of it gets made at a rate commensurate with maintaining the Imperium, and yet so much of this process "just happens"; it isn't synthesized in labs, found elsewhere, or strictly regimented by the government.

  • @MaryAnneRosato
    @MaryAnneRosato Жыл бұрын

    The spice must flow

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @janettechapple1782
    @janettechapple17822 ай бұрын

    Is that Captain Picard in the picture at 03.18 ?

  • @prakxyz
    @prakxyz2 ай бұрын

    In reality spice turns eyes red

  • @user-is9zn5hq1l
    @user-is9zn5hq1l2 ай бұрын

    Also during an interview with Herbert he said it was the sperm of the sandworm, which is filled with sandtrout lol

  • @ruphersonkiirii9254
    @ruphersonkiirii925417 күн бұрын

    Whats more problematic is that if spice is only found here how long have the fremen have been colonize and how did ships move in the first place.

  • @xo2stepbabiiox
    @xo2stepbabiiox2 ай бұрын

    This sounds like og 40k lore

  • @Igiveashitofaname

    @Igiveashitofaname

    2 ай бұрын

    WH40K was probably inspired by Dune like a lot of other SciFi franchises.

  • @randonkbay
    @randonkbay2 ай бұрын

    Title: How it turns people's eyes blue Script: Whatever it is, is a mystery.

  • @basichuman5183
    @basichuman5183Ай бұрын

    these guys honestly just havent been to the uk they should just come get their spice here its everywhere

  • @alexandertalionis5314
    @alexandertalionis53142 ай бұрын

    im a little more curious about the space-folding thingy.

  • @lordcrunk4790
    @lordcrunk4790 Жыл бұрын

    because... the spice is blue. Prussian blue imho, making the eyes dark blue almost black.

  • @henz3458
    @henz3458Ай бұрын

    I find it hard to believe a space faring empire cannot engineer a way to collect those "spice" without attracting the worms. This world building is full of inconsistencies or maybe I'm missing important info as to why things are like that in dune.

  • @paavobergmann4920
    @paavobergmann49206 ай бұрын

    Neither the Fremen nor Shai-Hulud are native to Arrakis, as stated in the novels.

  • @jayknight139
    @jayknight1392 ай бұрын

    how was the guy running so fast? was that spice?

  • @daveo.1702
    @daveo.17022 ай бұрын

    Why in the new movies the spice it's never really mentioned?

  • @KaiMoya420
    @KaiMoya4209 ай бұрын

    Im like a space guild navigator but with weed

  • @jayknight139

    @jayknight139

    2 ай бұрын

    LMAO. so you morphed into a floating balloon monster than needs to breath THC.

  • @KaiMoya420

    @KaiMoya420

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jayknight139yup

  • @RobertCentric
    @RobertCentric2 ай бұрын

    I always though Nutmeg was closer to melange.

  • @Mezog001
    @Mezog0015 ай бұрын

    The Spice!

  • @Nefylym
    @Nefylym2 ай бұрын

    did you just call the navigator a "sunbaked were-moose"??? (at 16:43)

  • @joanhuffman2166
    @joanhuffman2166 Жыл бұрын

    The economics of Arrakis don't add up. Human populations have always been limited by food production. Food production has often been limited by the amount of water available. The author never explained how food is produced on Arrakis. No magical machines that produce unlimited energy and transform it into material goods like Star Trek. The usual growing of plants isn't possible on Arrakis. They could trade because spice is very valuable, but that would be extremely difficult to hide food shipping from any government because food is bulky. Bulky food imports would result in an increase in sewage production.

  • @ThingsThatIDo

    @ThingsThatIDo

    5 ай бұрын

    I believe that there are places on Dune where the water comes to the surface like Oasis

  • @joanhuffman2166

    @joanhuffman2166

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ThingsThatIDo nowhere near enough.

  • @BLOODKINGbro

    @BLOODKINGbro

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@joanhuffman2166 literally in the first movie they show underground oasis with the depths of the mountains

  • @joanhuffman2166

    @joanhuffman2166

    3 ай бұрын

    @BLOODKINGbro underground oasis don't produce food. Growing plants does, but plants perspire lots of water. It's like Loch Ness. There's not enough plankton to support the numbers of fish that would be needed to feed a Loch Ness Monster, never mind a breeding population.

  • @123Jim91

    @123Jim91

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@joanhuffman2166You got reckt

  • @crg4183
    @crg4183 Жыл бұрын

    Gee whiz, this makes me hungry!!

  • @jeffrhorer1811
    @jeffrhorer18113 ай бұрын

    What if your eyes are already blue? Do they sparkle?

  • @SjofnBM1989

    @SjofnBM1989

    3 ай бұрын

    Spice blue is different than natural blue eyes. It's like neon and glowing

  • @Sylvester4571

    @Sylvester4571

    3 ай бұрын

    @@SjofnBM1989sooooooo double blue?

  • @OutlawCaliber13
    @OutlawCaliber132 ай бұрын

    I always wondered why they never added a moderately wet planet with sand trout. They'd terraform the planet...

  • @alisonsmith4436
    @alisonsmith4436 Жыл бұрын

    😊😊😊😊

  • @karenaylmer
    @karenaylmerАй бұрын

    Thus, the phrase "Spice of Life" was born and reborn ...

  • @jabbersjay6871
    @jabbersjay68713 ай бұрын

    Wb ice spice? Does she control the universe too?

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet2 ай бұрын

    I didn’t know Captain Picard was down with the spice 😮

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy652 ай бұрын

    The spice is worm piss that crystallizes as it dries out on exposure to sunlight and air. Or it may not be urine, but possibly semen. Which is just more fun.

  • @smnr_6789
    @smnr_67893 ай бұрын

    The colour is extracted from worm, as a form of poision

  • @user-iu8lf6tj9w
    @user-iu8lf6tj9w3 ай бұрын

    Honestly, you're asking for evidence, but it's Science Fiction afterall! In the David Lynch 1984 movie all the characters possessed Brown eyes and their eyes became blue due to saturation of the blood because of the Spice Melange. In the 2000, SciFi Channel movie, the characters mostly possessed hazel eyes making the transition to blue seem easier to manipulate. Honestly, Frank Herbert never actually stated some of the facts that make Dune a fascination to SciFi readers. Like, the fact that space vessels can fold space because of the use of the Holtzman Engines creating propulsion. He states it but never applies quantum mechanics to solve the issue.

  • @farminky
    @farminkyАй бұрын

    What kind of material are the worms made of??? Oligochaeta of the size in the story might exist in very low G 😂

  • @THEBIGMEOW
    @THEBIGMEOW25 күн бұрын

    Not Dune's Spice But synthetic Spice is no joke

  • @seangray6131
    @seangray61312 ай бұрын

    I wonder can you od on Spice?

  • @alexiachimciuc3199
    @alexiachimciuc3199 Жыл бұрын

    Sand-trout poop+ ultraviolet light+ air= spice

  • @SmartVideosJarkaWatched
    @SmartVideosJarkaWatched2 ай бұрын

    IT IS BY WILL ALONE I SET MY MIND IN MOTION. IT IS BY THE JUICE OF SAPHU THAT THE LIPS ACQUIRE SPEED. THE LIPS ACQUIRE STAINS; THE STAINS BECOME A WARNING. IT IS BY WILL ALONE I SET MY MIND IN MOTION.

  • @TheRojo387
    @TheRojo3874 ай бұрын

    Have you a video on the Water of Life, and why it is ironically so toxic to humans?

  • @Sam_T2000
    @Sam_T20003 ай бұрын

    I wish they’d made the spice in the movies blue, or have it turn the eyes red 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @chesterbless9441
    @chesterbless944110 ай бұрын

    Melange is one hell of a drug!

  • @robertarnold9815
    @robertarnold98152 ай бұрын

    it has a possible but rare "cooper - cooper" bond

  • @oddjob4293
    @oddjob42933 ай бұрын

    I would find it unbelievable if there wasn't a black market spice trade.

  • @blaketankersley2449
    @blaketankersley24498 ай бұрын

    the answer is because they writer said so.

  • @Leftyotism
    @Leftyotism2 ай бұрын

    I say its worm poop! And you can not change my mind!

  • @direcircumstances
    @direcircumstances Жыл бұрын

    At this point I instantly associate Corey's voice with sci-fi/fantasy lore. I can't even imagine hearing him talk about normal stuff.

  • @pewpew65
    @pewpew652 ай бұрын

    How does weed get your eyes bloodshot red?

  • @Jason.Goldstriker
    @Jason.Goldstriker2 ай бұрын

    If you swap spice for top shelf weed and swap the blue eyes for red everything makes more sense

  • @Rosiedelaroux
    @Rosiedelaroux3 ай бұрын

    By chucking in their face.

  • @kristopherleslie8343
    @kristopherleslie83433 ай бұрын

    Spice sounds like expanded Ginkgo biloba and tai chi lol

  • @t0nd132
    @t0nd1322 ай бұрын

    So Dune is about a war for drugs? 🤣

  • @Prodamax

    @Prodamax

    Ай бұрын

    yep

  • @Prodamax

    @Prodamax

    Ай бұрын

    a war for power, which comes with the possession of the drug.

  • @brendanmohareful
    @brendanmohareful4 ай бұрын

    And, uh, such as, the Arrakis?

  • @hatepaste
    @hatepaste29 күн бұрын

    It’s doesn’t. It’s a book inspired by the blue bruises on psychedelic mushrooms.

  • @GorVala
    @GorVala2 ай бұрын

    Not only their noses should be covered but mouths as well.. more moisture leaves with each breath.. especially when talking😂😂

  • @thebeesnuts777
    @thebeesnuts7772 ай бұрын

    Because it's fiction, they could of easily made them like Thor in his electric ⚡ episodes or they could of made them purple or jade

  • @fjdididiididid1238
    @fjdididiididid1238 Жыл бұрын

    The worms are not indigenous to Arrakis. In the later books they realize Arrakis used to be a green/water planet before the worms were brought there and turned the whole planet to a desert. Its big mystery as to what planet the worms actually come from.

  • @peoplez129

    @peoplez129

    3 ай бұрын

    Considering we know that they are capable of creating what is essentially spores, it would make sense that the sandworms seeded themself on the planet. I'd say the whole process of creating spice is a process of converting a planet until a specific level of spice is developed and some other stage occurs, and human consumption of the spice is obviously hindering that. It may be that the worms are actually intelligent, it's just that they have soo much prescience that they are like navigators, their consciousness is among the stars as their bodies roam as worms. It would be foolish to think the worms make spice without having any of the effects from it. Of course one might think why wouldn't the worms be everywhere if they're seeding planets, but it may not be that simple. Their seeding methods may have a low turn over rate, so they might be only 1 in 1000 worlds.

  • @user-is9zn5hq1l
    @user-is9zn5hq1l2 ай бұрын

    Wrong, mentats did not use spice they used the juice of sapho

  • @Piensamalyacertaras
    @Piensamalyacertaras10 ай бұрын

    1:34 i thought water was poisonous to worms?

  • @paavobergmann4920

    @paavobergmann4920

    6 ай бұрын

    Jepp. That´s why the sandtrout encapsulate it, to make a dry habitat for Shai-Hulud. To get the water of life, a" little maker" (subadult worm between the stages of sand trout and full-grown worm) is Poisoned/drowned in water, and the reaction between water and its metabolic products forms the water of life that is fatal for everyone except Reverend Mothers and the Kvisatz Haderach.

  • @RichardLucas
    @RichardLucas Жыл бұрын

    It increases the number of midichlorians in the sclera.

  • @Sam_T2000
    @Sam_T20003 ай бұрын

    why don’t the Spice Harvesters have the Carryall functionality built in? especially in the Villeneuve adaptation with the balloons, it would make much more sense… and they could just have one of the balloons fail, and the scene goes on as normal 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @TheReaver1234

    @TheReaver1234

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s a good thought, if I had to put a logical reason ( and mind you I had to think on this one a bit) I would says it’s because they don’t want to put pressurized gas containers filled with potentially explosive gas on a “factory machine. That and the more complicated you make a crawler the harder it is to repair.

  • @Sam_T2000

    @Sam_T2000

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheReaver1234 - that make sense… but you’d still think they’d still have a carryall paired with each harvester, so they’re ready to escape a worm when they need to. also, at the beginning and end of the day, some harvesters would be stuck at home base not collecting any spice, and the carryalls already deployed would be farther away from the harvesters in case of emergency 🤔 oh well.

  • @TheReaver1234

    @TheReaver1234

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Sam_T2000 all good points, but you have to remember that leto asked about why they dont have extra carry alls and the reason is they just dont have enough equipment at this point. The harkonens have stacked the deck against them so hard at this point that victory was impossible once they arrived.

  • @Sam_T2000

    @Sam_T2000

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheReaver1234 - that makes sense as well… do you have any thoughts on why (in the Villeneuve movies) the Harkonnen harvesters are so enormous compared to the Atreides harvesters? just extra spice storage, or what?

  • @TheReaver1234

    @TheReaver1234

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Sam_T2000 my guess would be maximum cargo, but i do believe the harkonen machines are armed with weapons where the atreides are just harvesters.

  • @christopherclink6931
    @christopherclink6931Ай бұрын

    I didn't know another race was able to synthesize it.

  • @sinajakelic
    @sinajakelic3 ай бұрын

    its just a reference for some drugs truning the eyes red

  • @kristopherleslie8343
    @kristopherleslie83433 ай бұрын

    Sad they never realized you could duplicate all those benefits with minor gene therapy and a BCI

  • @hosslong1508
    @hosslong1508 Жыл бұрын

    All spice is is just worm $h!t 🤣

  • @10thArchon

    @10thArchon

    Жыл бұрын

    The Great Maker’s $h!t. Show some respect 😂

  • @DOUGLAS55ish

    @DOUGLAS55ish

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, but it's good shite.

  • @Piensamalyacertaras

    @Piensamalyacertaras

    10 ай бұрын

    Is it though?

  • @annexerod1001

    @annexerod1001

    3 ай бұрын

    oh shit! am on high..more spice please!😂

  • @WilliamJames48
    @WilliamJames483 ай бұрын

    Kyle McLaughlin Paul had gummies way before they were a thing...

  • @ravenholmmusicclub944
    @ravenholmmusicclub9444 ай бұрын

    man, I lasted 2 mins. did anyone read the copy or listen back to it?

  • @khartog01
    @khartog017 ай бұрын

    No one can afford spice in this economy.

  • @paavobergmann4920

    @paavobergmann4920

    6 ай бұрын

    The navigators, the bene Gesserit, and selected nobles can.

  • @jorcin03
    @jorcin032 ай бұрын

    It’s - a - movie!!!!!

  • @Aaron-zu3xn
    @Aaron-zu3xn2 ай бұрын

    south park showed us what it is ..Tom Brady's "fecal sample"

  • @Muckoy1
    @Muckoy1 Жыл бұрын

    It’s a work of fiction.

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