One of my bucket list goals is to ride the QM2 between NYC and Southampton, just to know what it was like 100 years ago when ocean liners were on top

@SquishyZoran

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I want to do as well.

@Thechino231

Жыл бұрын

Sail*

@amirudinadnan7024

Жыл бұрын

They're just a big luxurious transatlantic ferry

@spooders8424

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@lordfarquaad1195

Жыл бұрын

they’re literally a beefed up fancier cruise ship, nothing special technically but they’re for sure way more badass 😎

I think a train is a better analogy than a bus honestly. Trains have sleeping arrangements, can feed people, and provide bathroom and bathing facilities. Also they're usually more on time then buses any how 😂

@byron2FZ

Жыл бұрын

And trains often have a first class carriage. Buses don't exactly have different ticket costs for different seats.

@zenothing5068

Жыл бұрын

We'll trains don't cross the ocean to the far away land Busses can be carried by ships although they are not that luxury as trains Also buses are cheaper and are mostly for Dense Cities and thats also a reason why busses sometimes don't arrive on time since you know *Traffic* But Busses can be easily be accessed by people Trains on the other hand is expensive and stuff especially if its for long distance travel they need to make the passengers comfortable and stuff like AirPlanes And yes there's trains on Dense Cities too but they're not Luxurious like for the Long Distance Trains take Japan and S. Korea for example they're train is quite plain No Beds No Food Just Passenger Carriages and don't forget the Control Room(or idk what's its called hehe) And also the other countries too Train Tracks are also a problem if you wanna cross to another land you need to build bridges or tunnels and that expensive as heck especially Tunnels need to be maintained daily to prevent any leaks. Idk what am saying right now but i like both

@alec4672

Жыл бұрын

@@zenothing5068 I don't think you understand what an analogy is. Trains are carried on ferries all the time. There's multiple passenger trains that go on ferries in the Pacific Northwest.

@zenothing5068

Жыл бұрын

@@alec4672 ye I didn't know what it means :>

@carsarecoo

Жыл бұрын

AMTRAK has entered the chat. Did someone say on time?

I’ve never been on either, but I like the seemingly more “serious” vibe of the ocean liner. It seems more relaxed despite being more scheduled, because people are more focused on the destination rather than rushing to take advantage of every single amenity and activity on the ship.

Wish Ocean liners would pick back up in popularity.

@OneBrokenEgg

7 ай бұрын

Oh trust me, they have

@thefinnishcreator

7 ай бұрын

Ocean liners are not so important anymore when we have airplanes which going way faster

@user-cp8fy8rk8h

7 ай бұрын

yore right but their cool and more luxorius ich people will pay for@@thefinnishcreator

@tempertantrum6464

5 ай бұрын

Too slow, why sail when you can fly

@thefinnishcreator

5 ай бұрын

Because ocean liners are way more cooler than airplanes

I'd love to travel on an ocean liner one day, which of course would have to be the Queen Mary 2 if it's the only one still in service. Of course logically and factually it only really makes sense to travel by plan nowadays, but I'd still love to travel on an ocean liner some day even just to see what it was like in the past.

Another difference that I see between these two types of ships is the care invested into their designs. Ocean liners were built to be symbolic of their nations and their achievements, similar to skyscrapers, while cruise ships are commercially-built spectacles of attraction and vacation. The way the two are advertised also differ, with television promotions for ocean liners feeling like it is made by someone who cares, and a commercial for a cruise ship feeling comparatively disingenuous, like it was produced out of obligation for a paycheck.

Please do more on the RMMV Oceanic in the background, what a beautiful ship

Cruises are like a theme park you can’t leave. Ocean liners are more like a luxury train.

@Xenoria911

3 ай бұрын

you can leave it

@PersephoneDaSilva

3 ай бұрын

You can definitely leave them and go back. But if you miss the time, you have to know where the next port is, what time the ship leaves at from there, and get a ride to it in that time.

@MilkDrinker218

3 ай бұрын

@@PersephoneDaSilva I meant while it’s at sea

@MilkDrinker218

3 ай бұрын

@@Xenoria911 not while it’s at sea

@Xenoria911

2 ай бұрын

You also can't leave ocean liners while at sea

We need Ocean Liners again. They were fast, especially the last generation of liners, and they are efficient. It could take so much business away from airplanes!

@hanzzel6086

Жыл бұрын

They are way too slow to compete these days. Everybody wants to get to thier destination NOW, and 3-4 days on a ship (that isn't a cruise liner or some wierd hybrid) isn't something most people would be willing to do.

@SpicyTexan64

Жыл бұрын

If they could they would but they can't so they don't.

@thedumbaviator5536

Жыл бұрын

Wtf are you on?

@jerro1446

Жыл бұрын

If the environmentalists weren’t so afraid of nuclear power we could have nuclear powered ocean liners that are fast and don’t produce any emissions. The US military uses loads of nuclear ships and submarines but most civilians are too scared of nuclear power to willingly be around it.

@hanzzel6086

Жыл бұрын

@Jerro They would still be much slower than airplanes. That might be enough for them to make a sort of comeback, but the time of the great liners is gone

There were thousands of these Ocean liners everywhere! The airline industry created a struggle then came the 747 in 1969 and that was the nail in the coffin for the fabulous Ocean liners world wide!

I’d nice if the shipping companies start constructing ocean liners again and of course make them the Edwardian style again

@mattirwin463

Жыл бұрын

would be nice but you've gotta ask yourself: would you rather be on a multi-day trip at sea for a higher price than simply just fly?

@aerofiles5044

Жыл бұрын

@@mattirwin463 As an avgeek, and an ocean liner enthusiast, I'd say both!

@ChairmanPaulieD

Жыл бұрын

@@mattirwin463 I just can imagine myself enjoying the amenities and services aboard an ocean liner like how going to the smoking rom enjoying a cigar and a drink and talking business & politics with other like-minded businessmen

@mattirwin463

Жыл бұрын

@@ChairmanPaulieD sounds great to me too but from the perspective of convenience, it makes a lot less sense

@denizalgazi

Жыл бұрын

And then sink when they hit an iceberg?

You might add that part of what is meant by the RMS Queen Mary 2 maintaining a "Regular" schedule... it is also a "Timely" one - a liner is capable of more speed - and maintaining it in rougher conditions, than a Cruise Ship.

@nthgth

7 ай бұрын

Cruise ships can also go through bad weather, but I guess their operations usually allow flexibility to go around it and mess up the planned itinerary, unlike liners. And yeah, QM2 might be faster than all or most cruise ships, I can't comment on that but it's a good point.

Actually got a cruise in November to December. I think it's November 28th when I'm departing from New York all the way to the Bahamas and I am on the Queen Mary too for the journey.

when I was 4 my family sailed to the US on the qe2. I can still vividly remember the plush red carpet and golden hand rails.

Sad that queen Mary 2 is the only ocean liner left and it doesn't have any voyages in 2025/2026

@hellolol5388

Жыл бұрын

Yep blame airplanes

@ukaszwalczak1154

Жыл бұрын

Astoria: ._. so i just don't exist then, h u h-

@mikipav1064

Жыл бұрын

Why does the QM 2 doesn't have any voyages in 2025/26????

@rhobot75

Жыл бұрын

Looking on line right now b/c I wanted to know why. To gently correct your statement, Cunard is booking cruises in the first third of 2025. .. And then, I queried 2026 and I'm looking at a whole year of cruises. So, not sure where you are getting your information?

@Squiddy-go1du

Жыл бұрын

Where the hell did you get that information?

I want to take a trip on the QM II so bad!!!

@denizalgazi

Жыл бұрын

*QM2

@hi-vz4un

Жыл бұрын

​@@denizalgazi II = 2 = -11- = 2

@noileyys2249

Жыл бұрын

@@denizalgaziSame thing

@denizalgazi

Жыл бұрын

@@hi-vz4un No, the crown is stylised as QEII, and the ship is stylised as QE2. There is a difference which is also why the ship is QM2, not QMII.

@denizalgazi

Жыл бұрын

@@noileyys2249 No, it is not the same. The crown is stylised as QEII, and the ship is stylised as QE2. There is a difference which is also why the ship is intentionally QM2, and would never ever be stylised as QMII. Royal protocols are always strictly followed.

The QE2 seems to be used a lot like a cruise ship. It has itineraries that start in New York and end in New York. There's also an itinerary that starts in New York, meanders around the east coast of North America, stopping in Halifax, Boston, Newport, RI, back to New York, then on to Southhampton, UK. Sounds like a cruise to me.

That queen mary looks GORGEOUS! 😍

@randomdudeface

Жыл бұрын

The ship, I mean. Obviously.

The cost is about 1000-6000 USD for a 7- or 9-day crossing from the research I’ve done

Now Cunard has more than just one. Needs to be updated.

@OneBrokenEgg

7 ай бұрын

Wait, really?

I'd rather be on an Ocean Liner Instead of a Cruise Ship Bc I think Ocean Liners are more comfy

Bucket lister right there, to take the Queen Mary II across the ocean.

Cunard is working on another ocean liner to join the QM2 in transatlantic service, her name is The Queen Anne. She is scheduled to be completely finished by early 2024 and set to begin her maiden voyage on the 3rd of May that year.

@freddyQT04

5 ай бұрын

Sorry to disappoint you but the Queen Anne is a cruise ship

@petergriffin383

5 ай бұрын

I heard she's unsinkable

Loved sailing the QE2

I have a question for a video. I know this might sound stupid, but where is the water for a steam ships engines located? I started getting into steam by steam locomotives, they consume the water while travelling, and they are very thirsty. I'm pretty sure Oceanliners didn't have giant tanks for a week of continuous running. So how did they provide the boilers with water? Did they use cleaned sea water or was the water in the boilers just 100% reused somehow? And if yes, did they sometimes change it? Would love to see this explained in a video. Your channel is amazing btw

@chipersboy01

Жыл бұрын

I have never once thought about this before. But now I'm super curious!

@monsieurcommissaire1628

Жыл бұрын

Since the mid 19th century, steamships have had onboard desalination equipment to maintain their fresh water supply. Early steamships used salt water in their boilers, which necessitated stopping the engines periodically along the voyage to clean the salt off the boilers.

@stevenweaver3386

Жыл бұрын

Fresh water was carried in tanks, but there was always some loss. Seawater was drawn inboard, heated to evaporate it, and passed through condensers to turn it into fresh water.

Queen Mary once came to greece why is she something between ocean liner and cruise ship

@SAOS451316

Жыл бұрын

She does both. An ocean liner can work as a cruise ship but a cruise ship cannot work as an ocean liner.

Damn. It's weird to think there's only one ocean-liner in existence now. Not that there should be more, it's just that you'd expect for there to be none. And seeing that livery was really cool. Cruise ships with the white paint looks bad imo; love the Navy blue and red.

I saw the Queen Mary 2 about 18 years ago in Rhode Island, in Narragansett Bay because there was a hurricane that was going through New York and I'll tell you that she one of the largest and most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life. We heard she was going to be there so we took my father's 26 foot ericson sail boat to take a little tour around her.

Bring back the Liner!

Yes! Right up my alley. I would rather take a proper Ocean Liner than a floating apartment building. Also, I have been to sea. I would not trust something that looks so massively top heavy. (Remember what happened to the Italian cruise ship? And the cowardly captain?) Thanks. Poirot and I will take the proper ocean liner.

@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311

Жыл бұрын

Quite.... asides from which are the class and style connotations. The ocean liner is an Aston Martin DB6 compared to the pink stretch Lincoln Town Car with the boomerang thing stuck on the boot, moon roofs, neons and spinners. One contains proper, established people who live in the Kings Road near Brompton Cemetary - or Hereford - in an interesting business like weaving the gold braid for army and navy officers' uniforms which their family's been doing since 1734, or they're architects or professors of medieval and modern languages at Cambridge - and are charming, modest and amusing and have thrilling encounters to tell of if you ask, one was best mates with Stephen Fry at school, another's dad was in SOE during WW2 and worked with Roald Dahl - the other contains drunk chubby Essex girls wearing knock off "designer" gear and far too much makeup - or the winning branch of an estate agency chain out on the lash to "celebrate" "smashing" their yearly target, all of them in their skinny Next suits and overstyled, gelled hair and necking sparkling wine and tequila. There is just something so Hyacinth Bouquet about cruise ships - absolutely awful. Provincial opticians, scrap metal dealers, market traders, directors of small cardboard packaging manufacturers, owners of a couple of chicken shops and northern mining engineers all crammed into ugly rayon evening wear and minding their ps and qs round the Captain's table. They're always from places like Salford, Hull, Luton, Slough and Maidstone. Just ghastly. I would prefer to do a couple of weeks hard time than spend a day on one of those vulgar, disco lit gin palaces with their rip off spas, hideous art for sale everywhere and guided excursions with Ron and Linda from Telford treating themselveson their 40th wedding anniversary and having to fend off their overly enthusiastic invitations to some dreadful, tired show where the only thing more sparkly than the diamanté on the actors' costumes, are their teeth. Uuuuuuuugggghhhhh!!!!

@skippyguy3

Жыл бұрын

It is not top heavy, otherwise it would capsize! The stability requirement for a cruise ship is the same or more than a liner anyway.

Good video. Useful info

Very informative and simple great short!

How do cruise-ferries fit into this scheme? For example, the MV Ulysses doesn't venture out into the Atlantic, but the Irish sea can be pretty horrible.

Yes, I've seen the Queen mary

I love your work and content so much :)

Thanks for this great information. Hey the queen mary two still goes to south hampton to new york like Titantic did.?

I love this analogy! Brilliant yet succinct!

always enjoy your videos

My great grandfather was on the titanic sadly he did not survive 😞

To me ocean liners are classic sleek like a classic car and most cruise ships are like someone's 1993 pimped out Honda Civic.

Am I the only one who is immensely proud to see Cunard on the side of a modern ocean liner?

This was the first video from your channel I watched. I’m hooked and subscribed. Keep up the good work.

Well done !

Short and sweet, absolutely loving it 👍

I Hope that Cunard will have a replacement Ocean Liner after the Queen Mary 2 retires

Every time I see some online amateur call the Titanic a ‘cruise ship’ it makes me want to tear my f*cking eyeballs out.

My first cruise was on the SS Rotterdam when it was in service with Holland American doing Alaskan cruises when I was in my early teens. When I got on a "cruise ship" for the first time after that I was seriously disappointed with the ship. The cruise ship was so cheap and phoney feeling compared to the then very old and very amenity poor Rotterdam. I still think fondly of that cruise

Rest in peace ocean liners, you will be missed.

If the RMS Queen Mary 2 can carry a passenger’s grand piano, cars, furniture, pets, and such, I’ll accept “Passenger Liner” status. Otherwise, I’d call her something else. Some cruise ships can have regular schedules.

@tmaster3332

Жыл бұрын

yes, but also, design differences, the Queen Mary 2 is specifically designed to handle rough weather not only without damaging the ship, but also keeping as stable as it can, cruise ships are not.

@denizalgazi

Жыл бұрын

There's a kennel on the QM2 so passengers can bring their cats and dogs.

@leechowning2712

Жыл бұрын

Yes, in fact the QM2 does have designed in storage for cars. It's just... Expensive.

@michaeltutty1540

Жыл бұрын

​@@leechowning2712 Years ago on QE2 the deal was that when you paid for your one way passage you had your choice of a first class air ticket back to New York or you could bring your car at no extra cost. Of course, at the time it was possible to order and pay for a new European car in North America, take delivery at the factory and use the car for the duration of your vacation. When it was time to return home, drop the car off at a designated centre, and the car would be shipped to you for pick up at the dealer from which it was ordered. The savings were great enough to pay for the vacation.

Oceanic III is a gorgeous ship

That’s the best explanation. Thankyou

You Are The Goat!!!!

Would be nice to have a video about th3 first ever cruise ship!

QM2 is a trooper!

Couple months ago I saw her in Sydney harbour!

During World War II, my grandfather was taken from Canada to England do you part of the war and sailed on the original queen Mary back when she was a troopship. My mom and I sailed on the QM2 from New York to Southampton in October 2005. She is such a beautiful ocean liner. Very smooth crossing if you can’t because we have like a knife. I noticed a huge difference I Cruise ships an ocean later when I sailed on crown princess from New York to Fort Lauderdale it was a smooth crossing, but due to the flat bottom, you could feel the ship rockin and Rolling. I highly recommend doing a crossing on the queen Mary two

QM2. Actually is both She works cruises and trips from southhampton to new york

So if you find yourself on a cruise ship in a storm then you are in real trouble

@forestghost7

Жыл бұрын

@grf1426 well put, I remember being on the RMS Queen Elizabeth at age 8, her 2nd to last voyage. punching thru 20 - 30 ft seas like no big deal. thrill of a lifetime for a lil kid 😊

@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689

Жыл бұрын

​@@forestghost7try a ship outside cunard, it would be pain in the storm

Plus cruise ships are insanely massive their literally floating hotels.

The way i put it, ocean liners are like airliners, while cruise ships are like private jets

I’ve been on two ocean liners, one isn’t in service anymore but was when I was on it and I am really glad I got the chance to

i recently went on a cruise from long beach to ensenada and the queen mary was there. not the queen mary 2, but the original one. it is now a permanent museum of some sort and it is surrounded by a permanent sea wall.

Fun fact: cruises for the masses really took off in Nazi Germany. They even built the first purpose built cruise ships.

'What if RMMV Oceanic 3 existed?' 'So here's a story that is lost to time about the RMMV Oceanic 3 and her construction!'

I’ve been TransAtlantic three times on the Queen Elizabeth 2 (QE2) and loved every minute of it. There was so much to do. I have been Trans Pacific on a cruise ship (Ovation of the Seas) and loved every minute of that too. I feel very lucky!

@forestghost7

Жыл бұрын

as a wee lad I sailed on both original Queens, and yeah, never got bored. no security back then and I freely explored them literally from boiler rooms to bridge ... unforgettable experience!

and the QM2 just had 2 of her latest transatlantic cruises cancelled. Cunard said it was a mechanical issue.

I think if this is the case, you don’t fully leave the atmosphere. It shows you the liftoff then the landing cutscene at your chosen location

Could Ocean Liners and Cruise Ships somehow complement each other?

@AaronShenghao

Жыл бұрын

QM2

I went on the QM2 when she was only a year old. Beautiful ship. We went on a normal cruise ship after and did not compare.

I been on the Queen Mary in California, was cool!

what do we have to replace the QM2 when its time to retire it? Is there one already under construction ?

Bring back ocean liners.

@Ououaua

10 ай бұрын

No, because plane can reaches its destination faster and cheaper than Ocean Liners

God bless the Cunard line for keeping this honorable tradition alive

I'm gonna take the QE2, one day. That would be a vacation in itself.

@volpixrossi3589

Жыл бұрын

The QE2 isn’t in service anymore and hasn’t been for 15 years.

@Da_Publick

Жыл бұрын

@@volpixrossi3589 I meant Queen Mary 2. Mistakes like this one is why I switched my keyboard. The other one, Simple Board, probably had 'QE2' built in, along with 'Max Headroom,' and 'Cyberpunk.' 🤣

With all the problems the airlines have been having, I think a couple of ocean liners should be reconsidered. If you have to get overseas quickly then fly, but if you don’t take your time and enjoy. Just saying🤷‍♀️. 🚢🚢

The Queen Mary 2 looks more like a cruise ship than an ocean liner

Life was so different then. Technology just improved so fast.

Ocean Liners had class, most Cruise Ships not so much.

Another difference between Queen Mary 2 and cruise ships is that Cunard has a long standing agreement with the British Government. The construction costs of a Cunard liner are subsidized by the government and in exchange they are designed and built to military standards and can be converted from luxury liner to hospital or troup ships quickly and easily. Queen Mary 2, like Queen Elizabeth 2, the original Queens, and all the other Cunard liners are essentially ships of war disguised as luxury liners. Many years ago I took a cruise out of Miami to St. Barts, St. John, St. Thomas, and Puerto Plata. It was on a ship called Sea Breeze, at the time a quite old, smaller vessel. Only 700 passengers. She was an old liner, very different in appearance to the modern ships. Our last night out we hit a storm. Old Sea Breeze was a dignified old lady. Bit of a roll, but nothing serious. We were following one of the modern hotels. We could see the trouble from the deck of Sea Breeze. The computers were trying to stabilize the new one. Trouble is the computers have a delay to them, and that night the frequency of the waves matched the delay in the stabilization equipment. The computers made it worse! On arrival in Miami we were shocked to see a fleet of ambulances at the next dock to pick up the injured passengers and crew. Not even a sprained ankle on Sea Breeze. Something to be said for inherent stability.

Which is your favourite ship

She was sold 2008 to Dubai as hotel

My dream is to take a transatlantic route from New York to Hamburg on QM2 one day

QM2 just done a lap of Aussie a couple of weeks ago!

I didn’t care for anything maritime till your channel popped up.

Also, the distinct hight of an ocean liners hull profile vs. the low hull profile of a cruise ship cause we all know that having life boats that low on an ocean liner would do us no good, especially if they encounter a rouge wave like ss michelangelo

My dream is to one day go to the UK to visit all my family, take the Queen Mary 2 to New York, and then visit the rest of my family 😂 top of my dream bucket list

Aussie Aussie Aussie…😁 cool channel dude…👍

Oceanliner>airliner

Why is there an ocean liner route between Southampton, NY and New York, NY ? Wouldn’t the LIRR be more economical ?

Probably the only reason that could ever make me go to England.

@qwertykeyboard5901

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't fancy getting curb stomped because some jackass thought my cis ass was trans. Evil country.

@Ukfairgrounds

Жыл бұрын

Your not welcome in luxury England

I want to be on the ocean liners it built better and stronger period 💪

Maybe you should know, Indonesia had a oceanliner the ship is build by Jos L.Meyer German.

Aren’t the other Queens from Cunard (QM2, Queen Anne, Queen Victoria, I think) considered ocean liners?

@DerpyPossum

Жыл бұрын

Anne, Elizabeth and Victoria are cruise ships of the Vista and Pinnacle classes, operating solely on pleasure voyages.

Oceanliners are the Sea Buses! Great!

Isn't the spirit of Tasmania like a ocean liner or is it more of a cruise ship?

A really simple answer to this question would be. An ocean liner is like a bus it takes people places. A cruise ship is like a tour bus it takes people to see things

I’ll take the party limo 😊

Some oceanliners became cruiseships

Long live, the Queen Mary 2 may she 🛳️ Rule the waves and keep the British flag flying🇬🇧✨💁‍♀️💕🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I say an ocean liner gets you from A to B with lots of ocean in between, a cruise ship from A to A with lots of drinking in between.