How I Went From Being an Anarchist to a Quaker
Quaker Ben Pink Dandelion joined Friends because they were working for peace and shared values with anarchists. Then he had a spiritual awakening.
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I’m Ben Pink Dandelion. I’m a Quaker writer and teacher.
Well, I first went to college to study hotel management, but I was also very involved with a series of left-wing groups and ended up dropping out of college and going to live at an anarchist peace camp. Now, anarchism is an ideology which is very much in favor of individual power, that nobody should have power over anybody else. And we were a group of great individualists, in a sense, living at this peace camp. We had different colored hair, different hair styles. Eventually we would all change our names to something rather ridiculous, like “Pink Dandelion” as a protest of the way that the father’s name is always passed down.
So I like to be called Ben but my legal name is Pink Dandelion and this was a deliberate ploy to come up with something that was, again, pushing against other people defining who you will be.
Revolutionary Hope
This was in the early ’80s and it was a year of great revolutionary hope in Britain. We had a miner’s strike on. We thought we had Margaret Thatcher on the back foot. Life was about protest.
But after about eight or ten arrests, you know, and really not feeling like we were moving forward at all, I began to think that there probably wouldn’t be a revolution in England. And so at that point, you give up a revolutionary strategy. The anarchist strategy had been to hope that everyone would withdraw their labor from the labor market and the system would collapse. So I looked for groups that were working from within the system.
Similarities Between Quakers and Anarchists
I had known the Quakers because I had been to a Quaker school, and I found them again, as it were. And I saw there a group that was committed to peace, a group that didn’t take votes (just as was true of the anarchists) and who didn’t have any fixed leadership, just like the anarchists. And I thought, “Here’s a group that looks just a little bit like the anarchists but working within the system.” So I originally came along to Quakerism in terms of it being a peace group.
Understanding the Spiritual Dimension of Quakerism
And it was only later, when I had a powerful spiritual experience on a Greyhound bus, that I really understood Quakerism, that I could begin to see the spiritual dimension, that meeting for worship made sense for me, that meeting for business made absolute sense. So it was a different kind of process from the anarchist consensus. We were being “talked through” in Quaker meeting in a way that just wasn’t true in the anarchist campfire meetings.
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Nice to see so many fellow Quaker anarchists :)
@codyofathens3397
3 жыл бұрын
I'm an anarchist very interested in quakerism. Did you find anarchism or quakerism first?
I am a Quaker anarchist.
@mange87
7 жыл бұрын
me 2 :)
@chrissnyder3809
7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking... if you follow Christ you are an Anarchist just like the Amish. I think his definition of Anarchist is socialist violence
@MarkEdge
7 жыл бұрын
I FOUND THE VOLUTARYIST!
@RodCornholio
7 жыл бұрын
Mark Edge We've been doxxed!
@chrissnyder3809
7 жыл бұрын
RodCornholio What does that mean ?
OMG I read his book and used it as a source in my History paper on Quakers!!!!
I'm laughing sweetly that his Spiritual awakening occured on a Greyhound bus because I bet there's been so many similar life-changing realizations on those long hard rides!
Brilliant video.
Quakerism, or "True Christianity" (if you follow the original teachings of Friends) blends with anarchism when it acknowledges Christ, rather than having people in leadership positions. Most Quakers today usually have a pastor (programmed tradition) or groups of middle class people running the show (unprogrammed tradition). Prophetic ministry has been largely replaced with prepared sermons and "sharing". Both traditions have replaced Quakerism with a form of protestantism (pastors or a "priesthood of all believers"). To use early Quaker speak: Christ is put out into the manger and the inn filled with other guests. To use anarchist speak: people are controlling other people's spiritual lives. Why does that matter in the context of revolution? Only the Light of Christ can show us the things that separate us from God, the very things that cause despair in the individual, and on the world stage, war, social injustice and environmental destruction. Only Christ, the power of God can then change us and give us the strength to overcome capitalism, militarism and our careless attitude to the creation. Anarchism as an enlightenment philosophy picked up where mainstream Christianity (including Quakerism) sold out and joined into the capitalist project. This is where Quakerism, which has become institutionalised and neutered by non-radical, liberal culture urgently needs to rediscover an anarchist-socialist vision guided by Christ himself.
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I’m am an anarchist.. I am a Quaker .. ok
i went from anachist to quaker and then to nihilist....where i currently subside.
@DonnieDarko1
3 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Quakerism working or rather how did it help propel you to where you are now?
@NOT_SURE..
3 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieDarko1 i got a job at a place called charney manor a spiritual retreat ,and was very badly let down by the quaker trustees and was bullied for over a year by three of the most childish women you have ever met . i overheard one say ''we are gonna keep him here till all the painting is done then get rid of him'' ....its a joke just like all religions
@DonnieDarko1
3 жыл бұрын
@@NOT_SURE.. wow, what a terrible experience, I'm sorry you had to go through that. That must've been an isolated incident, I'm sure there is more to the story though, right? How did you manage to get on their naughty list? This seems quite a contrast to their own public nominal teachings I'm sure, perhaps these two were on a p o w e r trip, saw a vulnerability and exploited it and wasn't sanctioned by the others? Edit : this spiritual retreat 'open house' if you will, how did it first come to your attention, a poster, an invite, etc? I'm particularly curious about this because that stands out to me in my own experience as well as others who've shared their stories on different forums. By this point of the incident were you already part of their member-only club /in-group, what was your age then?
@NOT_SURE..
3 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieDarko1 you're spot on. the managers were not quakers , one worked there as a secretary and was just given the job when the old manager retired , she saw it as an brilliant opportunity (as the trustees only visited once a month) to do nothing and pay herself thousands for it. she was basically a lazy damaged, recently divorced, narcissist/feminist, and i was a 50 year old handy man with aspergers , BAAAAAAD combination. i had a live in job as the resident friend/warden which would have been perfect for me ( i was living like a quaker for all my life and not realising , simple, non materialistic pacifist and with a dislike for authoritarianism)...so i immediatly started attending meetings and getting on really well but this was a threat to her so she started telling people i was a racist !! (turns out i found out she had to leave her last job after being charged with using racially abusive language!! ) ...in the year i was there she got through 3 chefs, 2 breakfast chefs, 2 lots of cleaners and basically sacked all the dear old ladies who worked there (the average was 20 years loyal service) and told them they could reapply for their old jobs but it would be at minimum wage ......i was told my free time when i could go off site and do whatever i wanted was ..............midnight till 7am !!!! she managed to annoy every group that had been going there for decades . basically an ugly person on the inside as well as outside, then the trustees called a meeting to ask for peoples thoughts on why revenue was slumping and she knew i would be the only one to stand up and give my two penneth worth , so she sacked me 1 week before. but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger ,
All names are perfectly fine. All Religions are fine. What I'm not for is Cults and most religions are cults. Spiritual Connection to God is best.