Bro! That shower is going to leak like crazy without any walls!!

@naybreed

4 ай бұрын

😂

@-agent-47-80

4 ай бұрын

Yup

@212kody212

4 ай бұрын

Lmao got me😂

@iamthewurst

4 ай бұрын

Bwaaaahahahahhaha

@jonathan3670

4 ай бұрын

Haha well your not wrong 😂

I’m a tile contractor and i do new shower pans all the time. This method works but it’s so old school and no matter how good you fold those corners the base of the tile wall always bows out. I have been using pre sloped and pre waterproofed pans made from high density foam. The brand I use most is Schluter. Still have to do some waterproofing once pan is secured but it’s tile ready.

@ndsrocks1

3 ай бұрын

Mate, fun trick, notch the studs to make the folds not push the backer board out. Floated pans > foam crap Floated floors are still king too

@jamiemcgavran5405

2 ай бұрын

Lol that foam is absolute garbage. Just wait, rember the dryvit recall or the t-111 recall. It will be just as bad

@anthonymontella8754

Ай бұрын

@@jamiemcgavran5405 and water sitting in a mortar bed with the weep holes clogged is better? Also the pre sloped pans have been out for years with no issues.

@danthecarpenterman9463

Ай бұрын

Save some money and float the pan then use schluter sheet membrane for waterproofing . Stronger then foam pan and you don’t get the build up of a vinyl liner . You can still use foam wall board or sheet membrane over drywall

You needed to put a morter/sand mixture before you put your liner down and slope it towards the drain so that the water will move to the drain. that's really important, if not the water's not going to drain properly. Note: I was wrong on the mixture being put down BEFORE the liner. I was wrong. I helped put my shower floor in and forgot in what order we did it. My apologies!

@procousticsochoa9318

4 ай бұрын

Yes preslope!

@eththagah4572

4 ай бұрын

First thing I thought. Bro built a mini, slow draining pond in his bathroom

@camden7488

4 ай бұрын

Negative slope can lead to a condensating liner, most will think its leaking but its just holding water and due to separate temperatures the liner sweats like a glass of ice water on a hot day. Where im at a 24hr leak test is mandatory and the code inspector guy will pull the drain to test its drainage. If no water in pan when he arrives you fail if pan holds water after drain okug is renoved you fail. Never use silicone. The drain flange is made to seal warertight with only the liner as the gasket. Plus the way the drain is made if the tile fails and water gets under the tile the drains are made to weep the tiniest amount of water back down the drain. Using silicone fills in the depressions that would create this weep drain.......this guy should of called a pro

@michaelmcgee2026

4 ай бұрын

Preslopes don't work

@brooktrout1477

4 ай бұрын

There’s a pre slope of styrofoam and heavy cardboard you put under the liner

At that stage you test if it works by plugging the drain and filling it with water to see that it is not leaking.

@TDSDoctor

4 ай бұрын

And leave it full for a day...

@matthewdetterbeck9603

4 ай бұрын

Then you sit underneath the house for an hour or two waiting... Do it right, do it tight.

@DieselRamcharger

4 ай бұрын

dont worry. it leaks

@infolives6956

4 ай бұрын

Water test at this point would be a great idea juat fill thw pan and let it sit for 2 days and mark the water line in the pan if it has more than an inch of water drop it is leaking not from the water evap

@infolives6956

4 ай бұрын

​@@matthewdetterbeck9603this is a slab home he cant go under it you can tell it is all concreat but you are not wrong if this was a raised foundation or manufactured home you would want to go beneith it to check for leaks. Im glad to see some people know what they talk about on these posts and not talking out there ass good stuff man.

The shower floor should be sloped prior to installation the rubber liner. If not the pan will hold water and mold. And mold. And mold.

@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7to

4 ай бұрын

I use sand bedding mix and slope it to the adjustable drain with the tile flush..

@Apex8r

4 ай бұрын

There is no pan, this is the base. Everything else goes on top…

@philwittkamp

4 ай бұрын

I understand what your doing. The rubber liner is filled with sand and Portland mix. The the tile. Yes. But to install it correctly you need to pre slope the rubber liner so it doesn’t hold water like it will. I’m sure the rubber liner manufacturers state this. If not the pan will hold water. Yes maybe not leak but it grows mold. Do as you like for sure just offering some knowledge

@johnbeckwith1361

4 ай бұрын

There is a pre-slope, look at the bottom plates.

@rollen901

4 ай бұрын

You are correct. Shoulda did a concrete over lay for some slope towards that drain.

Save yourself time, and worry. Get a prefab pan and curb from schluter or any of the other brands. You can’t go wrong

@gjergjcamaj5770

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but can you tile over them?

@DavidCasale

4 ай бұрын

​@gjergjcamaj5770 yes you can, it's called a RTT Shower Pan. Down side is the cost. They cost about $500+

@DavidCasale

4 ай бұрын

​@@gjergjcamaj5770RTT is Ready To Tile

@Apex8r

4 ай бұрын

Prefab pan doesn’t equal the walls being done as well, you need to invest in the whole system - not the walls necessarily.

@scrotymcboogerballs6452

4 ай бұрын

​@@gjergjcamaj5770yes.....of course you can, thats literally what theyre for

Dont use pvc glue for this application oatey make a glue just for shower pans.

@R06NS

4 ай бұрын

Your future customer bro, don’t spill trade secrets

@805socal

4 ай бұрын

Looks like he used oatey pvc glue, not to confident the way he glued that dam!

@camden7488

4 ай бұрын

It works fine. You just need to add pressure or clamp it some how till it sets up. The pan liner glue tho works way better. Its got a cool green color too.

I usually use a scrap piece of 2x4 to define the corners .looks good 👍

Don't listen to these people, this will work for about 10 yrs give or take a few. The only legit criticism ive seen is the sloping for proper drainage, and my 2 cents would be much more silicone around the drain, 6-8" of the entire outer radius. However, you could've got 2 birds with 1 foam covering the entire cement floor. Regardless, doing it yourself is always better than hiring out, even if you get it wrong the first time.

Nice work 👏

Close, but sorry that will leak. I'm a long time pro & tile teacher. If you do an overnight water test filled up to curb level as you should, it will immediately teach you how you need to fold & glue corners better. I promise that leaks. Also needs a preslope to drain the mud so the pan doesn't stink in a couple years from saturated lower mud

@oldriver1827

4 ай бұрын

The floor is very obviously pre-sloped.

@johnbeckwith1361

4 ай бұрын

You are right about the folds at the curb. They are on the inside of the shower basin, covered with an inside pvc corner...which we all know won't go over that explosive folded corner and seal it tightly. But it does have a pre-slope.

@psyphen2286

4 ай бұрын

PVC liners are a stone age application. Cant believe theyre still on the market

@The.Drunk-Koala

4 ай бұрын

He said in the video he has created a slope You obviously aren't a professional listener.

@Grrrnthumb

4 ай бұрын

@@The.Drunk-Koala Now I understand your user name! No, the word slope is not mentioned once in this KZread short, nor anything like it. You must have had a few already, lol

Great job!

Be careful when installing the track for the door. If you screw down into those 2x4's they can eventually leak and swell. Curbs really need to be done in concrete.

@cwally1994

4 ай бұрын

Shower door tracks do not get screwed down.

@rjthomasindyusa

4 ай бұрын

@@cwally1994 I've been remodeling bathrooms for 25 years. Cheap framed shower doors get screwed as well as frameless glass clamps. Look up 'CRL Z Square' and see for yourself.

@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7to

4 ай бұрын

The shower doors for walk-in showers are usually screwed on the sides..

@chrismartin7747

4 ай бұрын

If anybody screws into the curb i can guarantee the hole gets filled with silicone, I've never seen a concrete curb in my life

@rjthomasindyusa

4 ай бұрын

@@chrismartin7747 If I had to guess I would say that I have built 50 showers over the past 25 years. Early in my career I would make my curbs out of stacked 2x4's and wrap them in cement board. I had a glass contractor screw into the curb wich created a small leak that eventully made the 2x4's swell up. As a result a grout joint cracked and a tile popped causing more water to infultrate. Since then I started to make my curbs out of concrete. If you demo a really old shower it will have concrete curbs and floaed concrete walls.

Looks good

You could use pressure treated wood for the base, it would give you longer warranty for floor base.

@davegordon6943

4 ай бұрын

Treated lumber swells and contracts more than regular lumber. Not recommended

Schluter system works way better. We stopped using pan liners years ago

@-agent-47-80

4 ай бұрын

Same 👍

@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7to

4 ай бұрын

I still use them sometimes if the customer doesn't wanna pay the price for the Schluter ..

@codymc9820

4 ай бұрын

@@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7to I understand that 100%

@bottleman2002

4 ай бұрын

​@@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7toyou need to explain to your customers that what you save in material gets more than chewed up in your labour to do it with inferior products. My clients never go with this system.

@matthewdetterbeck9603

4 ай бұрын

​@@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7toI feel like the options become limited because it's labor vs labor at that point...

Use treated lumber for the curb. Always.

Good job!

well done … i worked as a tile setters helper for a few years as a young man and i can set simple layouts but ive dry packed countless shower pans professionally and you nailed it for sure ! after we finished the pan, we would plug the weep holes in the drain & mark a water line and fill it up to that point & let it sit overnight to check for leaks before adding dry pack mortar

Good job, that’s the perfect way for pan liner install.

It also looked like he had Doug fir wood on concrete instead of pressure treated lumber. Dryrot forsure. And yes you should have used mortar to create a slope to your weep holes on the Caspar drain fitting

And that’s why you call a professional 😂

You’re the kid that keeps us in business. You want it fixed now before the damage occurs or later when you have termites.

@PrinceCharmingNY

4 ай бұрын

Or … he’s just gunna fix it himself. If he’s dedicated to building it … he’s sure as hell will be dedicated to solve his own problem.

@chrisminblkdiamond

4 ай бұрын

@@PrinceCharmingNYDO it right the first time.

@PrinceCharmingNY

4 ай бұрын

@@chrisminblkdiamond how about you don’t tell people what to do … on a “do it you self” video. If they EVER NEED professional assistance I’m sure they will call. Just Not you, since you obviously rely on other peoples downfall so heavily.

@ImALefty08

4 ай бұрын

You’re coming off as a smug know-it-all and not a ‘professional’ that you claim you are. Why don’t you actually just show/tell us how it’s supposed to be properly done rather than putting in a comment that obviously isnt going to help anyone but only boost your already over-inflated ego?

@chrisminblkdiamond

4 ай бұрын

@@PrinceCharmingNYYou're telling me what to do hypocrite!

I don’t know a single person who has hired a professional to build their shower

Nice job😊

Even if it leaks thankfully your on concrete it won’t rot

Impressive!

How are you holding tile on the curb? Cement board and screws here's your leak couple years later

@pedroaguilera7186

4 ай бұрын

I apply a few coats of red guard to the walls and floor.

@nateg5915

4 ай бұрын

Hot mud over the curb just like the rest of the pan. You dont need cemnt board

Great job

Im doing the same project right now!I got few good ideas from you thanks.

You did a good jpb with shower linear

If it starts to leak, it will be from staple clips, and the liner should be about 2-3 ft from floor to sides of the walls to avoid leakage. Also, make sure you use silicone sealer. 😊

@johnbeckwith1361

4 ай бұрын

Liner only needs to be 2" above the finished curb (do you know why?). So 3" above rough curb. Staples will be covered by the waterproof paper.

@MyAlbertC

4 ай бұрын

@johnbeckwith1361 but remember, metal rust in time because ( you know why) metal and water 💧 don't always go well because of rust. Thank you for sharing your experience in trying to improve your home. 🫡

I have done lots of those style shower pans and you did great. Smile and wave

I love this! Future customers!

@R06NS

4 ай бұрын

Can wait tbh

@louisgaravaglia3025

4 ай бұрын

From reading the comments may look elsewhere sounds like this is going to cause some leaks

@devingeary455

4 ай бұрын

Sadly he has no idea what he is doing and definitely doesn't realize how much it's going to cost when this fails.

We’d call it pig ear the corners . Put one mail up high , nd dry pack to a taper on drain Did two of these recently. The one in my fathers house still fine nd we did it in 84 . No schlutor back then, I still do it at 60 Just buy Portland cement, nd buy masonry sand at brick yard .

Good job 👍

"Most kids" ... caught my ear. 😂

If you’d had tested it you’d know if it leaks. I knotch the studs the tuck my rolls in flat so the dura-rock sits flat.

No pre-slope!? No bueno. Water is going to pool under the deck mud n ruin your pan tile

@garykrell2058

4 ай бұрын

Looks like it has a masonry bottom

@michaelmcgee2026

4 ай бұрын

Preslopes don't work anyways

Work good on curblesse too👍

That's nice man the only thing I would suggest is on the outside of that curb you should have brought that membrane a few inches over it would help to waterproof the outside of that curb

Honestly thought the glue was a beer in a cooler

I had mine hot mopped for $200 bucks. The dude was a true professional.

Did you test it?

So is this what you're putting down before the pan?

Looks like a solid install

Nice job

Red guard also works really well though it stinks!

If it doesn't leak then you did fine. Best of luck with rest of your project 😊

How long do you think this will last?

You did pretty good for not being a plumber. But that one piece on the threshold is unnecessary if you do it correctly. But it looks like it'll hold water to me. 👍 Good job

Always Test it

Id recommend people do lead pans its just a lot of marker and straight edge and cutting but lead aint never gonna leak . Love lead pans .

@Diesel437

4 ай бұрын

You = 🤡

Osi quad the floor corners and edges, Red gaurd, then mud pack, then red gaurd again. No need for the liner any more. Much better for cleaner tile lay.

Should preslope the bed before pvc liner other than that looks good enough for me. This is usually how they are done by the time i get to em cuz the gc doesnt want to wait for the tile guys to preslope just get the plumber in there and get it inspected...

Good for u nice I do plumbing and this is good

I’ve done many showers and 1 time used the schluter system but feel much better having a hot mopper come in can’t beat the price and piece of mind

Bro stables his pan liner. I've never heard of that shit but it sounds counterintuitive to punch holes in the thing you're trying to keep water tight.

I would recommend not using a wood curb. Instead pour/ form a concrete or Sand/ concrete mix form w/ a single piece of #3 pencil rebar. For those anal retentive clients, epoxy coat the rebar prior to placing in the pour/ mix and dowel the ends into the ends of the framing . The pan material is fold up into the middle of the form and cut about 3/4" below the top of the pour." Your method now will require to apply durrock on the sides and top of the curb and now srewing durrock screws thru your pan material. Even applying a waterproof coating, its not 100% waterproof. They sometimes fail over time.

The corners are the toughest parts to get correct

And this my friends is a great example of why there are skilled and licensed professionals who know what they’re doing. We save you time and money by charging you for what it’s worth and getting it right the first Time

Back in my remodeling says we’d take it a step up and cover at least 4 feet up the wall not only the bottom pan.

Just buy a prefab pan and curb, might cost some more dollars but the install is so easy.

I know it’s a pvc liner, but they actually make a pan liner glue!! I’m sure it worked though.. everything else looks good

Man I hope he reads most of the comments before he tiles

I agree, kids would fall a professional

Looks good but test it to make sure with a blow up ball. I like how you put the dog ears by the curb and the pre-fab corners are more than needed for a rectangle shower but whatever. The corners are used when you have to cut an inside corner and that’s when I try to get them to sluder the shower and then the liability is on the tile guy.😀

Is there a full tutorialon this?

It won't leak but it also won't drain properly. On top of a concrete subfloor, you'll be alright. Just don't do this on any other substrate.

@The.Drunk-Koala

4 ай бұрын

He said in the video he has created a slope

U go kid ,with Ryobi tools 🔥💯

Don’t use silicone. Use butyl water block under membrane at drain ring. This is proven on water proofing systems. Fold corners, no,no,no cuts

Pan liner glue is contact cement, you dont do it wet, you have to wait for it to dry out first and get tacky before you push it together. RIP shower pan.

Wonder how many seasons they'll divide it into? Its going to be quite epic if they stay true like season 1. Great channel man.✌️

No pre-slope and that’s a hell of a lot of buildup for that curb corner, Even if it leaks, it’s not like it’s gonna destroy the cement floor

Clog the drain and flood it before you continue. Looks good though

Best waterproof shower is a full one piece heavy duty fiberglass insert

@MrBigspendn

3 ай бұрын

Tile Redi shower pans are awesome. Super heavy duty.

Did you flood it?

Can I get that video to learn how to. ADHD bad so I have to watch several times. Thanks ❤

Liner adhesive works best for around the drain..... also a pre-float would've been ideal.. that way if water does get to the liner it drains instead of just sitting there.. overkill is underrated

I always pour a concrete curb in 2 stages, after the slope float and primary curb pour, install liner on slope float, curb and run liner all the way to the lid

That's Old School, it's works though. I would've went with sealed system though, not a water in water out system. Those weep holes will clog. waterproof boards on the walls then dry pack for shower pan and an flowfx drain . Then waterproof sheet membrane and seam tape on shower pan for waterproofing. Or a prefabbed shower pan.Lot less work.

There is definitely shower pan liner adhesive. But good luck. You will need it

I’m doing a shower just like this right now

The problem is way will sit in the bottom of the pan causing mold and odor. The proper way to do this would have been to do a pre-slope so the water that makes its way to the pan liner slopes towards the drain.

That pan will hold water in the mud bed. Endless mold in the pan.

Just call a professional hot mop. Even the local GC’s around here get a good hot mopper before they do the shower. Dude will even install the drain and slope it properly for like $250

Don’t be shy with the silicone bead around the drain u should really lay it on!

You would be a great roofer

@eththagah4572

4 ай бұрын

As a roofer this made me laugh 😂

You need to put silicone on the top part of the drain and the membrane before you screw it down

Just call a contractor you will save your self time and fails.

Nice job. I did tile for the last 8 years, and that's almost exactly how we did it.

It always holds water in-between the rubber pan and mortar every time I remove one that's why we use schluter products for all our shower installs

No slope to drain before the liner?

Looks ok to me. Looked like there was a pre slope. Stapled high and glued. Maybe better than most tile installers working new construction tract homes.

Oh our house, we found out that original builder or owner did not do this. Nothing was under tile. But a massive hole where drain was. So whatever didn’t drain snd spilled over when into the wall and our room. It’s been a fun redo, sarcasm. We ended up putting a tub in instead. Obviously we fixed everything first. But it was a pain

I built one too, but not trusting my skills I bought a pre made fiberglass shower pan and designed the shower around that.

Commend you for trying, but there are way more effective and faster systems out there. Its been 20 yrs since ive used this system. Plus your drain is the highest point in the shower.

well fella, its always good to give it the ole college try, but there's a few mistakes i spotted right away before the halfway point here. good luck at any rate.

There's a pre built liner now a days With pre cuts and adhesive to seal without staples But hey man old school is always solid 🤷🏽‍♂️

Kurdi curb is best for the shower curb.