How I use my vintage HP 200LX today.

The Hp 200LX is part of my daily life, even though I run a product team for an internet-based company and have access to any modern technology I need. Sometimes it's nice to not have access to the internet and get work done free of distractions. In many ways there is no similar device that can outperform it today.
In this video, I demo wireless IR printing and the software I use.

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  • @bogamanz
    @bogamanz3 жыл бұрын

    If you want to experiment, these drivers are still hosted online: www.mizj.com/ IRDA DOS Print Driver IRDA Printer Drivers There are separate drives for DOS and for the internal HP apps.

  • @HPPalmtopTube

    @HPPalmtopTube

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi bogamanz, when looking at that page, did you use these 2 drivers or something else ??? * IRDA Printer Drivers (20 KB) added 10/13/1997 (Driver) (Drivers and TSR to allow the HP 200LX to print using infrared to printers like the HP 5P. Only works with built-in apps. These drivers have a new maintaner and he has made some improvements since their initial release. Freeware - unsupported.) * JetEye Infrared Printer Driver (224 KB) added 08/02/1998 (Driver) (The JetEye driver will enable your HP 100/200LX to print to infrared printers from DOS applications. It was actually made for HP laptops, but there are instructions included that address the 200LX. Copyrighted, unsupported freeware.) Is there anything else I should know about when trying to use a Pentax PocketJet 2 (which i have) when trying to install these drivers to be able to print to it from DOS and the 200LX TSR apps ???

  • @saifal-badri

    @saifal-badri

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you share some details on the word like program you are using here? I have been trying to run something like this on my 200lx thanks!

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi Жыл бұрын

    This must have been really impressive for its time. Having such pocket computer was my childhood dream in the 90s.

  • @DavidWildgoose
    @DavidWildgoose5 жыл бұрын

    I loved my HP200LX - I had the 2MB version. Used it for years. One of my apps was a reading app that rotated the screen so that you effectively held it in your hand exactly like an open book. 40 hours life on 2 AA batteries! The built-in apps were held in ROM compiled as "Execute-In-Place". They didn't have to be loaded in to the RAM, switching to them was instant. It was just fantastic. You can't beat having a keyboard (and which is why I now have a Gemini PDA phone).

  • @kublaikhan1253

    @kublaikhan1253

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the reading app was Vertical Reader.

  • @PRH123
    @PRH1234 жыл бұрын

    Great overview, thanks. Like that you are a real user, and not some guy just unboxing one he bought on EBay :) HP handhelds were awesome devices when they were DOS. Windows CE was so terrible it just killed that whole market segment.

  • @MrJamesthurston
    @MrJamesthurston7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this video! I have just been going through my old stuff and I came upon my HP-200LX. It's the 2MB version. I threw 2 AA batteries in, and it still goes just fine! (Apart from the complaint from the device about the backup battery) These little devices were ahead of their time. I had a ball just going through all the old data still there on my HP from the late 90's (lol) I'll NEVER throw this away. Great little keyboard.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Your data was saved on a PC card? I thought most of those ram cards were battery backed. That's great that the data was still there after all these years. Thanks for the comment.

  • @MrJamesthurston

    @MrJamesthurston

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have an adapter in the unit for a Compact Flash (CF) card. I have a backup and restore batch file, so the unit can be stored without any batteries and retain data.

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    The one I got at Goodwill, I had doubts about it working, but when I stuck in batteries, it fired right up. I stole the CR2032 out of my Neo Geo Pocket Color, and then the backup battery error went away, and all was well. I ran the self tests later, and everything checks out. I'm super stoked about this little machine.

  • @W4OP
    @W4OP2 жыл бұрын

    I recently purchased an HP 200LX 2M model. I started with a 95LX back in the day and moved up to a 100LX. I seamlessly moved my phone book database off of my HP 800CT. Loaded a large digit clock program and use the APPT program daily. Also have ZORK and Adventure on it for fun. Very portable and useful.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting use cases for today. Not many folks are managing their phone database off of their cell these days. My calendar changes too often to not rely on a cloud-based solution. I don't use either of these features. Glad you are still getting use out of it!

  • @ruim8590
    @ruim85903 жыл бұрын

    Dude, this is actually one of the best reviews I've seen ever on anything. It's exactly what I was looking for, congrats. Gave you a follow

  • @IIIJFRIII
    @IIIJFRIII8 жыл бұрын

    That is so awesome that you still use that thing. Cheers man!

  • @gate9595
    @gate9595 Жыл бұрын

    Only God knows how much I truly miss legacy/vintage technologies! They are irrelevant today, but still too darn cool!

  • @saifal-badri
    @saifal-badri2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I love this little dos PC, After a long eBay hunt I found the 4MB versions which was the last one HP made before switching to Windows CE 1.0 on Palmtops.

  • @jvolstad
    @jvolstad6 жыл бұрын

    I owned one of these back in the days. Very cool.

  • @tibfulv

    @tibfulv

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if blueprints and schematics are available for it. Perhaps we could open source it and make it available again. I'd love to have a Unix palmtop computer.

  • @sergeymishchenko9596
    @sergeymishchenko95962 жыл бұрын

    Great machine! I use it to this day. I use it as a notebook, I use the COM port (I connect an external ADC). Thing!

  • @tibfulv
    @tibfulv4 жыл бұрын

    HP used to make really high-end calculators. No wonder this one's so good. It clearly came from the same department that made the HP-48.

  • @macieksoft

    @macieksoft

    2 жыл бұрын

    The keyboard looks a bit similar in style to 48GX.

  • @tibfulv
    @tibfulv4 жыл бұрын

    DJGPP is a 32-bit compiler designed to output 16-bit code. It's a port of GCC to DOS. There's also OpenWatcom, which I also think is maintained.

  • @Mistraker
    @Mistraker7 жыл бұрын

    I recently found one of these at Goodwill. I absolutely love old computers and video game consoles, and this was quite a find for me. I enjoy using my TRS-80 model 100, but it's a bit limited in what it can do, and I don't currently have an effective way to transfer data with it. This device, though, being a full DOS computer, is far more useful. It's been a while, but I'm far more familiar with DOS than BASIC devices. I saw your video demonstrating CAD software on the machine. It showed just how flexible and capable it is. I got a CF card and PCMCIA adapter for it, but I found out the card I got needs a driver. I ordered a smaller capacity card that should work without one, so hopefully I can use it to install the driver I need. I might want to ask you about your setup, if you're willing. But, after I learn a bit more about the device, and install some software on it.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Feel free to ask any questions. Cad on this thing is actually more capable and easy to use than AutoCAD 360 designed for modern phones/tablets. I have a smaller capacity CF card. It works great with no driver.

  • @silicatewielder1128

    @silicatewielder1128

    6 жыл бұрын

    I purchased a 95LX to use for school purposes, and I was wondering, do you need drivers to use the Pocketjet or did you have to find some homebrew ones to get it working?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, there were special drivers. I have them in an email I sent to another youTuber. I can send along to you if you need them.

  • @Ioshka1
    @Ioshka13 жыл бұрын

    Still my favorite device!

  • @robertst-louis7164
    @robertst-louis71648 жыл бұрын

    Loved your exposé on the 200LX, a device I myself have been using on and off for over 20 years, for work or personal use. I just today bought a HP Omnigo 100 palmtop which was to be an evolution from the 200LX but is unusable, whereas the LX will continue to be usable for decades to come, for any application that uses text and numbers. Thousands of DOS applications and utilities to use. Sure, my iPhone does things the LX could never do, and is also very useful, but I like the standalone functionality and information processing capability of the LX. Thanks again, I'll start using my LX again, inspired by your video (and finally look into getting software carrousel, which I should have got years ago)

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The story goes that Stanley Kubrick called the software company to request that they adapt software carousel to the HP. It is very well adapted to the machine. I actually had an Omnigo in 90s as a student. The best thing about is was that teachers had no idea what it was, so let's just say that it gave me an unfair advantage in my math class. I don't have much else positive to say about it.

  • @robertst-louis7164

    @robertst-louis7164

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz Yeah the Omnigo 100 is a nice-looking little device, similar looking plastic to the 200LX, but in spite of the ahead-of-its-time stylus and GUI, it's frustrating to use. The 200LX in contrast, feels to me like a well broken in pair of favourite shoes. Interesting story about Kubrick. I'll have to find a copy of Carousel somewhere, to finally try it out. Cheers.

  • @lorumipsum1129

    @lorumipsum1129

    5 жыл бұрын

    Robert St-Louis if it had enough ports, you could probably use it as a cash register. That’s how several dos machines are used near me.

  • @lorumipsum1129

    @lorumipsum1129

    5 жыл бұрын

    Robert St-Louis does yours have that crack around the hinge that these are known to get? I just got one for on the go quicken and retrogaming.

  • @jbecerrat
    @jbecerrat8 жыл бұрын

    El mio, desde Mayo-1998, HP 200 LX con 4 MB RAM, todavía lo considero insuperable, varias hojas de cálculo Lotus *.wk1, compatibles con Excel, agenda, calculadora financiera, y con otros programas instalados, uno de ajedrez (PowerChess v5.3 de 1989!). Uno de los mejores computadores que he usado en toda mi vida!

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jairo Becerra Torres Gracias, PowerChess es un muy buen programa de ajedrez. ¿Dos personas pueden jugar PowerChess?

  • @jbecerrat

    @jbecerrat

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz No, dos personas no pueden jugar PowerChess, un programa de 1989, ni siquiera se conocía el Internet por aquellos años y el HP 200 LX no existía aún.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jairo Becerra Torres Gracias. Estaba pensando en dos personas en un solo computadora. (Sin el internet)

  • @jbecerrat

    @jbecerrat

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz Del manual de PowerChess v5.3: " 2) Player-window. In this window you see who es next (WHITE/BLACK) and if multimove is on or not (ON/OFF). Multimove means that the computer does not make its move automatically after your move. So it is possible for you to make decisions on your partner´s moves and to choose a special variation, eg. the Sicilian Opening" 3) Analyse-window ...." Saludos.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    Gracias, yo quiero jugar al ajedrez con mi novio.

  • @Turborider
    @Turborider7 жыл бұрын

    The 200LX came out in *3* models: 1MB, 2MB and 4MB

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    Turborider uwu the 4 MB model sounds so cutting edge nwn

  • @lorumipsum1129

    @lorumipsum1129

    5 жыл бұрын

    Turborider thier was also a variant with 6 mb with a daughter board, though the others can have this board installed too.

  • @tibfulv

    @tibfulv

    4 жыл бұрын

    And could be upgraded to 64 MB.

  • @cleverson_sa_
    @cleverson_sa_8 жыл бұрын

    Hello, really nice video! Glad to know someone else use using this really nice device nowadays. I have a good tablet, laptop, desktop and smartphone, but my novel writting productivity increased a lot when I started to use this thinny device again to draft some scenes. I have the 4MB RAM model with a 256MB CF Flashcard. I ran WordStar 5.5 and Windows 3.0 just for joy, but the built apps are really functional for my needs! Just fit into the pocket and use it everywhere! Thanks

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    Another great tool for writers is the palmOs based Dana. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXeprqt8aay2obA.html Here you get a full size keyboard, simple connectivity, and great battery life with no modern distractions. I'm very glad you are still using a HP 200lx. It sounds like you have the top of the line system (I only have one Meg).

  • @cleverson_sa_

    @cleverson_sa_

    8 жыл бұрын

    bogamanz Indeed, I was a hard PalmOS user into 2000's, Documents to Go was my main tool. I heard about the alphasmart, nice keyboard, but I really needed a thin device to write outside home. I saw at Amazon's a device called Pomera DM100 that writes only text without distraction. Thinny, portable, maybe a good option. By know, my restored HP 200lx are taking the joglb very well. Thanks for reply

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy6 жыл бұрын

    You can also write macros not only in Lotus 123 but you can also write macros that allow interaction between all the built in apps. This is useful if you want to share info in quicken with database and a spreadsheet program to do extremely complicated and repetitive tasks. Extremely useful and time saving for all sorts of problem solving or report generating tasks.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! I don't think I'll ever get to that level with Lotus, but it is amazing that spread sheet applications today don't have many killer features that didn't exist in the 80's. I feel that software is getting more locked down as we move to the cloud.

  • @Desprogramando
    @Desprogramando7 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful!

  • @drothokkroc4061
    @drothokkroc40617 жыл бұрын

    These Palmtop PCs are great! Sad that they don´t make them anymore.

  • @tibfulv

    @tibfulv

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if blueprints and schematics are available for it. Perhaps we could open source it and make it available again. I'd love to have a Unix palmtop computer.

  • @michaelcloutier2225
    @michaelcloutier2225 Жыл бұрын

    I have a vender moded 5MB ram and CUP over clocked unit(they sold them with either or both. I got it back in the day and have a 2 modems and a ethernet card that all work great. I can do very limited internet access. I take it out once in a while. I do wish I had a printer like that one.

  • @NewbieGeek123
    @NewbieGeek1238 жыл бұрын

    My father has one of these, i used to play a labirynth kind of game in first person when I was younger, I re discovered the device some days ago, but the screen is broken, and I cant find a replacement... I wish I could use that to writing to, I just loved that.

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    Was it "Lair of the Squid"? You wander around in a maze finding letters to make a password to get to the next level, and squids occasionally murder you. It's a game built into the ROM software, along with a minesweeper clone. 200lx.net claims to have screens for sale, but for $80. I'm seeing 100lx and 200lx systems for about $100, so it's probably better to just buy a new system. If you do, though, you should sell your old system for parts. Good to keep them in the mix, so other people with broken systems can fix them. By the way, if you get a new system, the 100lx and 200lx are nearly identical. You probably shouldn't get a 95lx. It's not that it's a bad device, but the resolution is lower, which means it's compatible with far fewer DOS programs. The 100lx and 200lx systems do CGA graphics, and work with way more programs as a result.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb1298 жыл бұрын

    That thing looks pretty sweet

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    Great to see another palmOs fan. I love the IIIc and tapwave zodiac.

  • @Sb129

    @Sb129

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz Thanks, I've been using them for about 15 years, just like your HP 200LX, There's just a few things a Palm can do that the everyday smartphone can't

  • @kippie80
    @kippie805 жыл бұрын

    I still have mine. Used it for 10years, HP had excellent support for this the whole time. For 200$ they'd send u a new one and u send the old one back to them in same box. IPhone 2G killed this one for me. Only thing it lacked was global search capability - iPhone had this and this was the 'killer app' for me. To this day, my personal contacts originated from this device.

  • @kippie80

    @kippie80

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, i still use it as a programmer for 68HC11 micro controllers. Have cross compiler and utillities on it for that.

  • @dlarge6502

    @dlarge6502

    2 жыл бұрын

    I find phones are just too slow. Devices like this, or even simpler personal organisers are essential for me as if it is slow, or has too many steps, I will end up forgetting to unlock the phone and do "it" whatever that is. For example. My Fitbit. I can use that maybe a month before I have lost the plot and stop logging food items etc. The workflow is too slow and coupled with the slow steps like getting the mobile out of the pocket and opening the case, unlocking it, locating app, watching app draw it's UI and animate things needlessly just makes it so boring. Even on my core i5 Dell laptop, logging in is a chore. Full of spinning dots, welcome messages, icons that constantly refresh, background jobs eating 90% of the CPU. It feels like I'm booting win 95 on my old 486, literally nothing changed! Linux on my PC however, login, BOOM there is the desktop. These devices are fast. Old, 16 bit, running dos, no nonsense, fast interface. Why do "modern" device's replace this with flashy animation and usability barriers?

  • @oldtwins
    @oldtwins6 жыл бұрын

    Nice, had one back in the day but had to sell it later to put food on the table. Hope to scavenge for one again.

  • @dbbyres
    @dbbyres3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, I have the 100LX. What is the make & model of that printer? I've never seen one like that.

  • @Paulancar
    @Paulancar5 жыл бұрын

    Do you know how to setup the printer trough infrared?

  • @TuNnL
    @TuNnL Жыл бұрын

    That's amazing you were able to install the full version of Lotus on this device. It's pretty sad how the UMPC form-factor was abandoned by major manufacturers like HP. Hopefully they make a comeback, and not on Android, which I only use because iOS is even worse. 💁🏻‍♂️

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy4 жыл бұрын

    Bogamanz, which DOS version of Lotus did you load tothe 200LX ? I became an expert in writing programs within Lotus using MCL (Macro Command Language) and wrote intense applications that solved many a problems for folks in sales. I also wrote macros within the 200LX to switch back and forth between 123, DBase, Quicken, etc. It was amazing what I was able to accomplish in a very short period of time using the progams I wrote using 123's build in MCL. But the ultimate would be to run the commercial version so I could utilize my most progressive, very complicated spreadsheets. I started repairing these units and consequently have a large assortment of parts, motherboards, etc. I also have a large quantity of special made crystals for double speeding that I would solder to the motherboard, and came up with a lot of unique fixes for the unit as it has quite a few weakpoints.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm using release 2.4. I imagine there are other versions that would work just fine. One of my 200lx's screens gave up the ghost, so I'm a lot more careful with the remaining device and no longer use it regularly. These things aren't as cheap as they were when I made this video. I'm not sure I'd recomend the device if bought at today's prices as one will need spare parts like you mention.

  • @jfairplane8520
    @jfairplane85204 жыл бұрын

    My Nec 780 was the best thing i ever get !!

  • @STANI420
    @STANI4204 жыл бұрын

    amazing

  • @Samson1
    @Samson15 ай бұрын

    Personally, I prefer a world where I can press 'send' on a device, point it at another one and send whatever I want without fuss with the knowledge that the device I'm sending to is the ONLY device that is aware of mine's existence and of the data being transferred. Considering IrDA was running at gigabit speeds before Bluetooth took over, IrDA in my opinion is the most secure, reliable and the fastest way of sending and receiving files outside of WiFi. I find convenience highly subjective. -Psion user

  • @ihatecrooks
    @ihatecrooks6 жыл бұрын

    Are you able to print via infrared from Lotus 123? I can print from the other built-in apps, but not Lotus.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    6 жыл бұрын

    ihatecrooks yes but I installed the "real" version of Lotus via dos. I even use that sideways print program.

  • @roostersideburns3440
    @roostersideburns34405 жыл бұрын

    that small printer is way cool

  • @jon87386
    @jon873868 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered a 95LX off Ebay :D Yeah it's only half-CGA res so I can't run windows... but I might get a 200LX if I like it enough. My phone has an IR transmitter (no receiver though). I wonder if I could do one-way file transmission....

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    Maybe! Especially if you can write your own drivers or find one. These devices appear to use a non-standard ir driver (hence the special printer driver I installed). A PC Card to Compact Flash adapter has proven to be the easiest way to interface with modern devices for me.

  • @UdoKrawallo
    @UdoKrawallo4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting device, having a real Pocket-PC with DOS, today Windows devices in that size are rather rare to non-existent. That it runs on AA batteries is also a good thing. I have one of the successors, the Jornada 680, as collectible. Unfortunately not really usable anymore. The specific battery(Li-Ion or NiMh it was) is dead, and not sold anymore(or for outrageous prices), therefore a disadvantage.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    New pocketable computers came out since I made this video. Gpd win makes a few models and the one mix yoga is a solid little build with an 8 or so hour battery. None of these use AA batteries though, so they won't likely be usefull in 20 years. The HD color screens are much better though.

  • @gincoba
    @gincoba3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there! Nice video! I prowdly own an HP 200LX. Could you share where you managed to get Software Carousel, in order to have multiple instances of DOS? Thanks! Cheers!

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I purchased this copy from Thaddeus Computing INC. Also this vendor sells some custom setup of this software: www.rundel.net/palmtop/hp200/software_carousel.htm

  • @gincoba

    @gincoba

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz Thanks a lot for the info!

  • @bmckim

    @bmckim

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz I am not having any luck finding any way to access Software Carousel. Any advice would be appreciated.

  • @obsidian9998
    @obsidian99985 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if iclick can fit into that?

  • @joyschtik
    @joyschtik3 жыл бұрын

    I’ll stick to my iPad now. Thanks for the video

  • @jon87386
    @jon873868 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned it took quite a while to get the printer working. What settings/drivers are you using?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    I can send the files via email. It is tricky since the dos drivers are different from those ones to use when loading HP software. Go to my about page on KZread to find my email and I'll reply back with conf files and drivers.

  • @jon87386

    @jon87386

    8 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, will do

  • @jon87386

    @jon87386

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz Heya, your about section no longer has the email (even though it says it does?) As such I'll be idling on Freenode in the channel #waitingforbogamanz

  • @ScottSpeed95

    @ScottSpeed95

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz if the drivers are still available I would love it if you could help me out. I just got the exact same setup minus my pocketjet isn't a plus model Thank you!!

  • @retrotechnical
    @retrotechnical7 жыл бұрын

    Great demonstration. Not only still functional but useable and practical 22 years after it was made - we will be able to say the same for an iPhone in 2038?

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    The limiting factor for a lot of modern electronics is the battery. An iPhone won't have a usable battery in that time, and likely no one will be manufacturing new batteries. The battery also isn't easily replaced. I suppose you could plug it in and use it, if it still worked otherwise. Being massively more complicated, there's a lot more to go wrong on it, though. The same issues will begin to affect some electronics that I already have, like my GBA SP, Micro, and DS. I wish we had standardized lithium ion batteries for these sort of devices, for the sake of longevity.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I complete agree with you, although replacement batteries are sometimes surprisingly still being made. For example, you can get a new battery for a palm IIIc device. Besides weirdos like me, I'm not sure who's restoring these. I wonder if with 3d printing and such if this problem might one day be solved. Perhaps we will be able to order obsolete batteries from a database. (Create a stock battery in a number of sizes/voltages. Embed in a 3d printed shell to the exact dimensions a certain device requires. Build in or attach the required connector.) Until then, long live AA batteries!

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    bogamanz: Some batteries can be refurbished. That is to say, you disassemble them, remove the old dead cells, and replace them with either cells of the same type still being made today, or some equivalent that will still fit in the assembled battery. That being said, I don't think that's possible with most phone batteries, as they don't use any kind of standardized cell. But yeah, some future tech might make reproduction of these batteries easier, and a niche market could continue to support aging devices like this. With devices, like the palm device you mentioned, they continue to get supported because some companies just don't have the cash to spend to resupply all employees with new devices. I recall seeing a video on the channel Techmoan which detailed a video format that used tapes around the size of an audio cassette, and how small airlines were using them for long, long after they were obsolete, with some maybe even still using them for in-flight movies. I saw someone else pick up a 200LX that was locked into a custom hard case with a built in adapter to turn the serial port into a standard RS232. It was being used as a data collection device well after most companies had switched to newer machines. So, if you like old machines, and would like to still have parts and so on available, looking for stuff that was used commonly in business isn't a terrible idea.

  • @laurentd9980
    @laurentd99805 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to get one of these, but I'm really scared by the small size: at only 6.3 in / 15.9 cm wide, it looks the screen is hardly legible in 80x25 text mode (although it seems it can optionally boot with a larger text font / less lines). It really looks like this screen is a strain on the eyes, isn't it ?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I haven't had much of a problem. Someone older or with vision problems may have issues.

  • @laurentd9980

    @laurentd9980

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz Thanks for your feedback. I actually ordered one just yesterday, so I will soon "see for myself" :-)

  • @HPPalmtopTube
    @HPPalmtopTube3 жыл бұрын

    you should consider getting a Psion Series 5 MX, it has an amazing keyboard that you can touchtype on just as fast as a normal keyboard, and it also has a word compatible WYSIWIG word processor, spreadsheet etc... it would be much better to use for typing stuff than the clunky little keys on a 200lx ;)

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do admire the Psion devices. I also have an Alpha smart Dana, which is a great distraction free device with a full sized keyboard and a lit screen. Today, I use my Microsoft folding keyboard with a phone or tablet when traveling light.

  • @HPPalmtopTube

    @HPPalmtopTube

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz i bought a pocketjet 3plus and there is a complete driver for EPOC (Psion 5/5mx) which works just like a windows driver and you can print graphics embedded in the word documents on it etc... it works with all EPOC apps :) it's really cool...

  • @jmadd1000
    @jmadd10002 жыл бұрын

    Still use mine everyday.

  • @kilrahvp
    @kilrahvp5 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Nowadays you need a GPD Win 2, full featured PC that's basically smaller than this :)

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have a GDP Win, I agree that it is similar, but miss the fact that the HP can run for 30+ hours on 2 AA batteries (that one can find anywhere) and turns on instantly. If you want to take notes or keep a spreadsheet going, and not worry about constant charging, the HP 200lx is still more useful today than anything I've used. I would like a really dumbed down modern computer with an outdoor readable display that is optimized towards needing one charge per month. Even something with a Netbook's performance would be interesting.

  • @lorumipsum1129

    @lorumipsum1129

    5 жыл бұрын

    kilrahvp it’s not really smaller. Is much thicker. But a little shorter

  • @kilrahvp

    @kilrahvp

    5 жыл бұрын

    Xinless Vice yeah but it's a real full featured PC like we always wanted, not a reduced feature set thing like "handheld pc" and "pocket pc" were...

  • @lorumipsum1129

    @lorumipsum1129

    5 жыл бұрын

    kilrahvp true. But that’s also what the hp 200 and 100lx were. It wasn’t until the hp omnigo that they became real actively meh pocket PCs, this was the gpd win 1 and 2 of its day, but it also came with pin apps.

  • @kilrahvp

    @kilrahvp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz ​ @Xinless Vice Just grabbed a mint 2MB 200LX on eBay to play with, will be fun!

  • @waterup380
    @waterup3807 ай бұрын

    when printing what paper did you use

  • @williamlove3087
    @williamlove30874 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I purchased a HP-200LX. I wish to obtain information from you about using this pocket computer as a Word Processor. Are there any programs to purchase?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft released word 5.5 for free some time ago. Please check this link out for more info: social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a677155e-412e-4598-878b-6aa6f5464dc3/word-50-for-dos-or-word-55-for-dos-download-location-on-ms-site?forum=winservergen

  • @NathanHassall
    @NathanHassall8 ай бұрын

    Its been 8 years and Im curious how many times being able to carry a printer in your backpack and print thing has come in handy? Im guessing 2000 times?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 ай бұрын

    To be fair, I don't travel for work much (since the coronavirus) and no longer carry this computer wherever I go or need the printer when traveling. This little printer is great for someone who occasionally prints and works on modern computers too. Last time I checked, they were still making them.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 ай бұрын

    Latest model: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1743473-REG/brother_pj_822_pocketjet_8_200dpi_thermal.html/?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwgZCoBhBnEiwAz35RwsmULBicQqdeYz5Db6XEfirPb_if3ylyY_wxAKGZ5H12_GU0WEd07BoConcQAvD_BwE

  • @regenceaudio
    @regenceaudio2 жыл бұрын

    Is there an application that will do a full 200LX backup to CF so it can be easily restored?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I save everything to the CF card, so I can simply save an image of the card on a modern computer. I recall modifying the AUTOEXEC.BAT to make it my working directory.

  • @miyawuh9084
    @miyawuh90844 жыл бұрын

    I got 620 LX its still works though the screen is a bit shady. How do i replace the screen?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do not have a 620 LX. With the backlit screen, it might be a challenge. Many old back lights were florescent tubes, which can age. I wonder if that is what is shady?

  • @garfieldepicmoments
    @garfieldepicmoments5 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a copy of Software Carousel? Can't find anything about it online.

  • @robertgormley7602

    @robertgormley7602

    4 жыл бұрын

    www.palmtoppaper.com/store/asp/prodtype.asp?prodtype=57

  • @petemoss2840
    @petemoss28402 жыл бұрын

    Is there any way to connect HP 200LX to a MacBook?

  • @Paulancar
    @Paulancar4 жыл бұрын

    Hi can you help me. I bought recentrly HP 200LX 4MB, but I want to install C++. Could you explain me how to install. Best regards.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a compact flash card and PC adapter running? From there you can simply transfer the install files to your CF card and install from dos. Here is a good source for abandonware: vetusware.com/download/C%2B%2B%203.1/?id=3719

  • @dimitrioskalfakis
    @dimitrioskalfakis2 жыл бұрын

    that era is gone forever ;-( . modern crap is devoid of fun and inspiration!

  • @virajdhananjayadinuviraj
    @virajdhananjayadinuviraj2 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍 I have found one. can you plez tell How can i change the language ?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if you can. At this point there was limited ROM size.

  • @virajdhananjayadinuviraj

    @virajdhananjayadinuviraj

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, I need to change the system language of the palmtop. The one I have has Latin so I need to change it to English. Do you know how to do it ?

  • @activelow9297
    @activelow92972 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to demonstrate the "killer app" for the HP 95/100/200LX series.... "Lair of Squid"!

  • @WXLM-MorganNicole619
    @WXLM-MorganNicole6199 ай бұрын

    I’m surprised that the thing doesn’t have y2k issues

  • @paulm64
    @paulm643 жыл бұрын

    Where do you get the paper for that printer?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Search for Brother LB3788 Thermal Paper 8 1/2 Inch.

  • @paulm64

    @paulm64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bogamanz Thanks!

  • @whutwhy
    @whutwhy8 жыл бұрын

    you might be able to do that business card thing with NFC

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    Without a doubt! I am unaware of a widespread, modern version of the "beam" though. Seems like a great product for LinkedIn to develop.

  • @leisergeist

    @leisergeist

    7 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz dang, I'd back that

  • @0xbenedikt

    @0xbenedikt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe QR would wrk too. There are apps that can easily generate a QR code from a Business card and the other person could just scan the QR with their phone and get the vCard this way. Might be more widespread than using NFC.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but there are limitations. The minimum recommended size for a QR code is 1.2 inches square, so that is going to take up a lot of real estate. The max file associated with that small footprint may be rather small, you aren't going to want to put too much data on there. If you do, a device with a smudged camera or a user in a dim room might have issues. I'd guess you could only get 500 bytes of data or less. Some professions do not allow camera phones (like defense contractors). Plus you are still using a business card, why are these still mandatory in the modern age?

  • @0xbenedikt

    @0xbenedikt

    7 жыл бұрын

    bogamanz I thought more about letting the other person scan the QR code right from the display of the first one. Of course nowadays, business cards could be shared using means like email.

  • @ryanstevens3822
    @ryanstevens3822 Жыл бұрын

    huh can this run qbasic or frotz

  • @JAYB3AN
    @JAYB3AN3 жыл бұрын

    But can it run doom?

  • @Zeloverevolution
    @Zeloverevolution8 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't you just connect to a portable bluetooth printer?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Inceptual Games This old device does not have bluetooth, but Bluetooth printers are great for modern devices (in unsecured locations). Most 8.5x11 Bluetooth printers are not portable though. Printers in general will be obsolete for the masses soon (if not already), but I love being able to print wherever. This printer also works with a modern computer.

  • @Zeloverevolution

    @Zeloverevolution

    8 жыл бұрын

    bogamanz Yeah that's kinda what I meant, an x86 notebook or tablet these days are pretty damn useful, and battery life is fairly decent too, at least a few days without any need for charging.

  • @someguy3032

    @someguy3032

    7 жыл бұрын

    what interface does this printer use to connect to the computer?

  • @JohnBilkey
    @JohnBilkey4 жыл бұрын

    The real question... can it run Doom?

  • @tibfulv

    @tibfulv

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only if a PC/XT can. But they have put Doom on a HP 50 so maybe?

  • @alexmaley1810
    @alexmaley18106 жыл бұрын

    Can it run Windows?

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alex Maley Yes, but I wouldn't recommend Windows without a pointing device. Here is more info: gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/hp200lx_e.htm#win

  • @alexmaley1810

    @alexmaley1810

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's awsome! I wish my HP 600lx would run Windows 3.0 or Windows 95 rather than Windows CE. But that's still pretty cool for you to use. Still, Windows CE is cool too.

  • @wrryleopared485
    @wrryleopared4858 жыл бұрын

    i use a hp OmniGo 100 for notes in 8th grade

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    That's fantastic! I had an omnigo 20 years ago when I was a 9th grader. I saved up for a year to buy it. It was ultimately stolen, but I don't think you will have that problem today.

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    I saw a video for hacking the omnigo to be able to boot DOS, so you can use it to run DOS software. You need the serial cable to do it, though.

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy4 жыл бұрын

    I can fix your HP200LX with the screen problem if you want. Won't charge much other than postage and $10 for the screen. I have hundreds of spare parts for the unit.

  • @Spykedjadedragon

    @Spykedjadedragon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you do backlight mods for these?

  • @intuitiveexplorer
    @intuitiveexplorer8 жыл бұрын

    I have two of these I'm selling. I've uploaded videos of them operating.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    +intuitiveexplorer Good luck! I'd add the eBay link to my videos instead of the item number so folks can find your auction.

  • @intuitiveexplorer

    @intuitiveexplorer

    8 жыл бұрын

    That's a good idea. Thanks. I sold a couple of these the past spring, then took a break from messing around on eBay over the summer. These are the last of them that I have.

  • @Waoweens
    @Waoweens8 жыл бұрын

    Y U DO DIS / Y U WUD U DO DIS 2 MEEEEEEH

  • @AndrewGray1987
    @AndrewGray19877 жыл бұрын

    NFC or QR code to send vcards.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or today send a MMS with your contact info attached. Still with PalmOs, this was a one button transaction. If I have a business phone, making a new contact should be as simple as possible instead of an awkward set of steps. Most of the time, folks are drinking heavily when exchanging contacts (in my industry at least). Compare to this: "After the initial setup, the fastest and most impressive way to exchange your business card is to simply press and hold the Address Book button on your Palm for just a few seconds. If your unit is off, the system will first turn on. Then, after about two seconds, your PDA will initiate the beaming to any neighboring unit that’s within range." You could easily beam any note, calendar event or file on the device using a few keystrokes.

  • @someguy3032
    @someguy30327 жыл бұрын

    I am better , smaller and in color :-D for those who did not get it look at my profile picture and name ;-)

  • @0xbenedikt

    @0xbenedikt

    7 жыл бұрын

    I own and really like both, my ZipIt Z2 and my HP 100LX (which has the same hardware as the HP 200LX) :P

  • @moofymoo

    @moofymoo

    6 жыл бұрын

    not sure if that is what she wanted.

  • @MihaiPruna

    @MihaiPruna

    6 жыл бұрын

    sorry, no, you are too buggy with Linux and your keyboard lacks some important keys

  • @webgpu
    @webgpu2 жыл бұрын

    Th, th, th, that's all folks!

  • @ezegl7520
    @ezegl75204 жыл бұрын

    Rasberry pi4 +win 10 y a la mierda

  • @dlarge6502

    @dlarge6502

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, no screen, no keyboard, doesn't run on AA batteries. So far the RPI lost. Also, why the hell would anyone run win 10 on a Pi??

  • @briandeeb6378
    @briandeeb63788 жыл бұрын

    YOU KNOW

  • @user-ky7yt2km9h
    @user-ky7yt2km9h2 жыл бұрын

    You know, you know, you know, You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know…..

  • @geemailMossman
    @geemailMossman4 жыл бұрын

    Hard to listen to

  • @barbadolid5170

    @barbadolid5170

    Жыл бұрын

    No need to point it out

  • @user-ls8pd1pz3h

    @user-ls8pd1pz3h

    8 ай бұрын

    @@barbadolid5170its feedback

  • @TrueYears
    @TrueYears8 жыл бұрын

    Your pros for it make no sense at all "Because it lacks the ability to use internet it's a great device! Because you don't get distracted" yeah so does turning airplane mode on

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TrueYears For many, sure. Computer users in general have shifted from content creators to consumers. Who writes or programs on a tablet or phone? There is a growing movement today around distraction free devices (especially for writers). Having the entire world at ones fingertips can be a distraction for some of us. The temptation of turning wifi on is too much. I certainly get more reading done with a kindle compared to a tablet for instance. Others are are building new devices to solve this problem. You can buy an overpriced $500 modern digital typewriter now. As a rule, today's devices are built for content consumption, not creation. With older computers, the user can configure/install/hack/program anything. Regardless, the battery life on my cutting edge Note 5 is less than a few active hours. If it's tethered to an outlet, it's not really a portable device. I play games and read email on it, but hardly do any real work on the phone.

  • @TrueYears

    @TrueYears

    8 жыл бұрын

    +bogamanz then it's subjective. I run a Amazon and eBay business and with out my iPhone/G3/S6 I wouldn't get much done. I also use a Bluetooth keyboard to write letters and have Bluetooth printer which I use to print labels. Even if I wanted to, I wouldn't be able to use this 200XL. Now I've owned before I sold it on eBay. its great novelty product but let's not kid ourselves you're using it for mere novelty of it. You tried really hard to justified this on your video "no internet so no distractions" the only pro I saw was maybe the battery life because on a device thats running off a 80186 Intel from 1982, driving a CGA 640×200 screen, it's what we should be expecting. Now had you said, "I use this device because I want to" I wouldn't be dissecting your reasons but you didn't. "eh no backlight" you know where a lot of work gets done? In bed and you're telling me this thing gets work done? I will say this 22 years ago this device was great and very innovative and my uncle owned one and it's the one he gave me. But as soon he could he upgraded to something better. If you like it and gets work done then awesome but dont make a con and try to pass it as a pro here.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    8 жыл бұрын

    TrueYears Neither of us are going to win an argument here because we both feel strongly our own way. I would not recommend this device as a primary computer or laptop, but is is super useful on a trip. I can take this device with me camping and spend the weekend writing a C++ program that will be useful for personal or business needs. Or I can take occasional notes while leaving my phone for an emergency. No, this computer cannot run an online business or modern software, but it can teach the user about the fundamentals of computing or take notes without the user being tempted into responding to folks on youtube :) I'd trade it in today if there was a modern pocket device (readable in direct sunlight) that ran windows XP for 30 days on 2 AA batteries.

  • @Mistraker

    @Mistraker

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but are people going to actually do that? Having a device without the option is more effective at eliminating distraction. Makes pretty decent sense to me.

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    TrueYears its a cool device for its time, and very useful even today

  • @noth606
    @noth6064 жыл бұрын

    Otherwise would be good but I can't listen to this style of talk, repeating every other word 2-3 times. I'd walk out if this was a presentation and I'm doing the virtual equivalent by not finishing the video. You do realize you don't have to spit out 120words a minute? Speak slower and you'll have enough time to not do this repeat thing.

  • @bogamanz

    @bogamanz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy.