I was so waiting for this!!! When I saw your original video from the new church. I was stoked that you were using logic. I’ve taken the worship mix and master course but abelton is just not as easy as logic is for me!!!! Hoping you guys add this to that course for in depth course

Yeah congregation mics are amazzzing. Great mix! It’ll also allow you to use less processed reverb and makes things sound even more natural. Awesome job and great tut!

I like it , it’s pretty simple but sounds great! You have great musicians too!

I recommend the limit mode on the la2a. Sounds great. Cut 525 and 3.2k on the acoustic. It’ll help you some.

Great information, thanks for posting this video. Another good idea that I was taught years ago with Logic is to place a Gain control at the top of each channel to adjust loud signals and have the option to switch the phase as well. 🙂🇨🇦

finally logic pro.. waiting for your next trick.. 👍👍 Anyway, i always "create track" for all buses so i can put them next to the channel source, so i dont need to go to the right on the mixer view..

Because I'm using Logic for a while, I recommend you switch the folder stacks to summing stacks. Summing stacks gives you all the benefits of a channel track (parallel comp and more). Also, you can minimize your tracks in folders like folder stacks. Very nice job by the way.

Great video! You can use an eq to define your toms, and use a gate/expander to lower the spills and then trigger. You can even use the mix know (Trigger2 ) to blend the wet and dry signal. Otherwise you hear for ex tom triggering every snare hit

@D71219ONE

Жыл бұрын

I’m considering using Trigger 2 free to replace our kick and snare only. I’m totally happy with our toms. How does Trigger 2 account for cross stick, or does it not? I don’t want it triggering the snare when it’s a soft section of a slow song, lol.

Sounds great! Ya crowd mics was gonna be my only suggestion.

Tip: what i find works well for drumset is breaking up your drum groups. Like have a buss for your kick and snare, a buss for your toms, and a buss the things made of metal (cymbals). Each of those busses get some compression and those are routed to a main drum buss with light compression. Then you can send that to a parellel drum crush buss.

You guys are awesome love from India 🎉👍

Good stuff man. God bless you.

Yo, you gotta do a in depth walkthrough for Worship Leader School. I know I personally like logic over Ableton….. I have been waiting for this video!! Finally, Logic Pro X

@djsoundfxandlights2085

Жыл бұрын

hopefully we can download the file.

You like the CLA-2A for parallel drum compression more than the CLA-76? I've always used the 76 but I'm down to try stuff. Also, just started using Logic for our online mix too. Probably biggest difference for us is that I'm using it post fader off our LV1 so that I don't need an extra person or space to mix broadcast. I just tweak our template just enough that it sounds a little more produced for online and then how it's mixed in house translates to online.

Waves' H-Delay has an internal tempo setting which can be set independently from the host tempo. It even has a tap tempo button.

@darrenbeaumont9209

2 жыл бұрын

+1 for H-Delay!

Hi good work down,please is there a way you can use an x32 console and the DAW instead of the sound grid. Thank you for supporting us.

Just a note for organization and simplifying your track count: Your L and R tracks (like keys and multitracks) can be combined into a stereo track. Just make sure your L track is on an odd input number, click the little circle symbol on the track input button, then select your channel pair (eg Input 7-8) and voila, one less channel and no need to pan left and right :)

@specopbookie

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that make it to where you can't mix the level of each individually? If so, not a good idea imo.

@bluedog8050

Жыл бұрын

@@specopbookie like most things, it depends on what you are doing with your channels. I just know that if I put a volunteer in charge of mixing in logic pro, it's easier to understand and control when a stereo instrument is on one single channel. If there is a case where the L and R signals aren't balanced, I can make adjustments with the stock gain plugin, it has a separate knobs for L and R

Hello! In your template there is no simple delay (for Logic users) to compensate the letancy created by the plugins. Is it not needed?

Thank you for posting these videos, that help your brothers and sisters, learn how to put more of the precious time HE has given us to worship HIM. One question, Im (new) running Logic Pro, to the M32 with OBS. I can record just fine, but when I plug earphones into my Macbook, It stops recording the audio, when I pull the out it records, I must have missed a step ?

Hey! Thanks for this video - and all of the other videos you make to help us improve the worship experience for our churches. I recently shifted to using logic to mix our stream. Current setup: X32 > Logic (Apollo Twin) > ATEM Mini Pro > ProPresenter > Restream > Facebook/KZread. I said all of that to ask you if you have any thoughts on latency or video/audio sync issues. The video is coming in SEVERAL frames before the audio. I’ve been scouring KZread for tips on how to fix this! Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Tracy

Thanks for the video. I have some questions please 1. How do I route my master to another system via Dante? 2. How do I configure the solo button? I noticed channels routed to buses don't sound when on solo, only channels routed to stereo output will sound out. Thanks

Great Video. Would love to see your panning techniques.

Thanks Jake. I noticed some bleed from the drum/OH mics - Did you consider adding a gate?

You should use another reverb for vocals. I mean, a reverb that allows you to do a side chain to the vocals, to get better clarity… but it’s a pretty good job anyways, and you can use a bus to send the snare and then apply the Trigger 2

Great stuff.

tank you for dis, my only concern would be wat effect and ow eavy is d trigger 2 on your cpu, because of latency. I personally do not av d trigger2 but i av anoda plugin and it is cpu intensive.

How much latency does DAW processing add and does it cause noticeable sync issues with the video?

Do you have any broadcast templates to have a good starting point that I can download?

Logic makes delay automatically in sync to timeline tempo settings. Unless of course you want it styled on a different time signature

Hey man! Good work!! 🙌🏽 so i was wondering you guys have any latency from audio into your video recording.. logic is giving us a progressively worse n worse latency. We’ll start on time, and as service goes on, it’ll be up to 2-3 seconds.

Are you able to share which Tom sounds/settings you were using from the Stevan Slate library?

I have a mac for DAW mixing and another mac for streaming. how do I get the Daw audio to the mac that's used for streaming? please advise

What about your time alignment for live? Don’t see the sample delay at top of channel strips.

60/120 100% works great for Waves Tune in Chromatic

Since phone speakers don’t reflect low frequencies too well its a good idea to add a bus send for the bass with some clean distortion on it. Just route the output of the bus to the rest of the band. I implemented this and it works phenomenally. The base is still clean but you can hear it clearly on the phone making the mix sound fuller even on phone speakers.

@busyngtv2861

Жыл бұрын

CAN U POINT ME TO A VIDEO ON HOW THIS IS DONE??

@eddieyoung3856

Жыл бұрын

Pls share

@Marks_1777

Жыл бұрын

@@busyngtv2861 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fayWrZuuc8nboZs.html

@Marks_1777

Жыл бұрын

@@eddieyoung3856 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fayWrZuuc8nboZs.html

@GustavoSantos-ty4bh

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t you just add the clean distortion on the bass channel strip instead of having it go through a bus ?

a template would be nice, i have a very similar setup almost the same plugins

@jake possible template for us in the worship ministry program?

in this case the acoustic is not so important in the mix, however if it is a key element in your mix and sounds like this DI'd acoustic, i highly recommend buying a worship tutorials acoustic IR pack for $15 and loading it into logic's stock reverb. there are some useable freebies out there as well.

@adam_churchfront

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely! we teach how to do this in our Broadcast Mix Mastery course.

How does everyone deal with solo in LogicX? If you solo a channel, it will also solo it on the broadcast. Is there a setting in Logic that changes the way solo works?

silly question. If you use that Waves sound grid does it only offload processing power of the waves plugins or will it offload all the plugins?

Thanks bro

Could you theoretically use MainStage to mix for KZread Live streaming? We’re using a presonus sl 3. Recording in a daw isn’t really a concern

Do you know how to insert channels from my Yamaha TF3 Mixer to Logic Pro? I've gotten some channels working via the I/O Plugin. But My acoustic and keys just don't want to pick up on Logic. I think it might be something with the Mixer. But I don't know yet... Any Help?? :)

What are you using for a control surface to execute a service? iPad?

highly reccomend PERCS samples. Made by the Upperoom and Gatway church drummers.

Have you ever tried ozone 8 or 9 on the master for the livestream?

I really like this, do you think you can give the logic file?

Hey hi my name is Moses How do connect the Yamaha MG20XU To Login, or which Software should be used for the Live mixing

WOW, could you share that template with us?... Thanks, Id be great!

How did you get the trigger thing working on drums?

How do you solo channels to monitor in Logic Pro X

Thanks Great video! How could I get a studio vocal to sound like it's coming from a live PA more? I've tried different reverbs and IRs, but looking for a natural PA / speaker emulation, a reverb that sounds similar or mauybe a mic emulation that could give the vocal and a few other instruments that live Hillsong or Bethel sound, some. Maybe re-amping and mixing in the sound? I havent tried that.

so guys, how do you do the delay time live?

hi guys, we use a Yamaha M7CL desk for broad cast and trying to work out how to connect my macbook pro to the yamaha desk to use for mixing. does anyone have any advice. i know its a connection via cat5

I get a delay when adding steven slate trigger for live stream mix template. Just wondering if its just me or if there is any way around it!

What the best way to do live stream on a persons 24by4 mixer

I think the only thing missing IMHO is having the ability to control reverb on command. It seems to be excessive in some areas or out of place. Thanks for the awesome in depth!

@hqmultimedia_

2 жыл бұрын

True but you can use a control surface for DAW control. E.g fader Port by presonus

@asa.james_music

2 жыл бұрын

@@hqmultimedia_ that's precisely what I mean

is it possible I can have copy of your logic pro x project mixing template?

What waves plug-in do you use. What pack?

Hi sir can you do a video how to do in abelton

como você faz a transmissão sem latência no audio?

So did you just buy the waves bundle and all these plugins come with it?

Great video Jake! Loved it. Are you selling this template by any chance?

@nanayawasare1

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I hope that’s the case. Great question

Anther tip: think of using your dynamic EQ as a desser👍

Oh goodness. I guess I have to start singing better at rehearsal 0_o

@ethansfisher

2 жыл бұрын

Is that possible tho??

@paulkalusanjolomba1478

Жыл бұрын

Hahah

"we need to find out why this guitar doesn't sound good on its own" yeah I've heard so many engineers say that about Taylors...

How did you end up sending audio to the video switcher?

I wanted to know how are you compensating for audio latency on the broadcast since the limiter and waves tune will introduce audio latency ? Also, what buffer size are you running on the template ?

@schlausprecher3361

2 жыл бұрын

Waves Tune Real-Time does not introduce latency. Additionally, Logic automatically compensates for latency of busses. If latency is introduced on input tracks, one needs to compensate on all tracks, as far as I know. At least that's how we do it, and we inherited that from the bethel template for Logic.

Great video Jake! I am in the process of upgrading my church with a M32 and Waves card and we will send audio to Logic for livestream over the WSG network. Part of this process is I want to move the daw to a separate room for mixing. How would you recommend sending our stereo bus mix back to our switcher at front of house? You mention you intend to do something different in this video. Thanks! Chris

@chrisgazpacho

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh figured it out, I'll just send it back to the console over WSG. Send it to Aux 1/2 to the ATEM mini. That will be perfect.

@Churchfront

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the challenge will be figuring out how to monitor the mic at the Logic computer. That’s why we ended up putting a behringer flow at that computer to pull usb audio out of logic and then we send the main out of the flow to the stage box

My name is Ian please I'd like to know if an Allen Heath Gl2400 can work with a daw?

How do I set up daw for broadcast someone please help

Just wondering what made you choose the CLA 2A vs the 76 on your lead vocals?

What do you guys use to delay video considering the delay generated from the processing you have on plugins from Logic atleast to sync video and audio?

@chriswaynegerlach

Жыл бұрын

typically video will naturally be delayed more than the audio. at least in my experience, i have never had to delay video to match the audio, however i have had to delay the audio to match video. which can be done with a plugin, set at the root of each channel strip (better to do this at the begginning of each channel strip, rather than once at the end of the channel strip if you are mixing broadcast so that: a) the audio will sync up with what you are seeing on screen in the media room, which actually does help give context to the mix. b) most importantly, putting the delay at the begginning of each channel strip allows you to hear the changes made to your mix in real time.(if you put one single delay on the master output, you wouldn't hear the changes in your mix until after they were processed by the delay).

How do you create a solo bus with this?

My question is: If you don’t have a volunteer for this, can you still run it? Or do you need a person to mute/unmute channels as they are used? And is there a way to do this without clicking with mouse?

@samsound8510

10 ай бұрын

You could also set it up so each channel goes into the daw for processing, then back out to the desk channels for fader control. All the bussing would likely need to remain in the desk, however. Alternatively, some desks also work as a DAW controller, so there may be a way to assign the desk faders to control DAW faders, rather than the actual desk inputs.

I want to be a person like you.

Great video! One question: how are they interfacing their mics and instruments to Logic Pro X?

@bluedog8050

2 жыл бұрын

It sound like they are using Waves Sound Grid over the network, likely plugging their instruments into something like a Sound Grid Stage box.

@dylanraymusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluedog8050 close! Our stage box is actually our "ears board" (x32 rack+the midas DL32 stagebox) and then from there the raw audio is all sent to separate places via Ethernet on the waves network. That way we can process our in ears completely separate from everywhere else, only downside being that the "true gain" is now controlled by our x32 rack and not the FOH board. It's been a more budget friendly way of achieving the multiple goals we were shooting for when we moved in to the building. Jake has definitely helped us take all of it to the next level and I'm sure we are gonna be changing some of it up here soon! But for now that's how we have been doing it.

May I know how to use hardware mixer to control Logic Pro? Any suggestion?

@soundwaverecords9023

Жыл бұрын

I use the MCU Pro. really great and it gives you plugin control and is made for Logic unlike alot of others native to Ableton. I think Behringer might make a version as well.

I'm curious to know, are you able to solo a channel in the DAW to hear how it sounds without affecting the main mix going out to you live stream lol? I've always wanted to know how to do that.

@ricardo.i.i.i

2 жыл бұрын

I think to achieve this you can make sure that the “i” button near the solo button is the only one with the “i”selected

@danieleduca1241

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricardo.i.i.i but that way you'll send to the livestream just that track without the others

@schlausprecher3361

2 жыл бұрын

No, this is not possible with Logic, at least with the dedicated solo button. You would have to use a dedicated bus send as some sort of "solo bus" on each track.

@danieleduca1241

2 жыл бұрын

@@schlausprecher3361 exactly. Maybe it could be done via dedicated bus and a macro (to have a button)

@IgnacioP96

2 жыл бұрын

That's the nice thing about Ableton Live, you just set the Solo to Cue mode and assign it a different audio output

Greatest tip. Just let the instrument/vocal be natural first before adding some toppings to the cake ❤

@scottkorber

Жыл бұрын

Yet still triggers drums. Lol

@marclewism

Жыл бұрын

@@scottkorber thats a food color😂

Most of the modern churches today reupload/remaster the audio to improve recorded live stream for future viewing, am I correct? Tnx!

Are you using Trigger live in the room or only for broadcast? I'm assuming you are using the plug ins live and broadcasting live...or do you do a lot of post work and broadcast later?

@darsmatias

2 жыл бұрын

i have the same question. i believed they do a post mixing work and broadcast later. if this was live/real time that would be awesome tho.

@dylanraymusic

2 жыл бұрын

We aren't using the Slate triggers in the room, but we are using a whole bunch of waves plugins on each drum channel at FOH on soundgrid. I don't believe Slate is currently able to run off of the SuperRack interface/server for FOH- only waves plugins work within SuperRack, as far as I'm aware. Our audio is straight from the preamps going to FOH and separately to our Broadcast, so we have totally different plugin chains for each channel and each destination.

can we get the template

Please do it with Pro Tools!! or Ableton!

Can you send that templete

Have any of you tried using an iPad DAW to live stream? Curious to know if it’ll work! Haha

Whenever I use Logic to mix the livestream it starts to have a delay after a few minutes, how do I fix that? All the plugins have been checked for lag time, and I'm using a MBP 16" 2.5GHz 32GB, what should I look for?

@AngeloRamosBR

Жыл бұрын

We were using a fully loaded 2013 MBP and we started getting that delay after a few minutes of streaming…we pitched a base model M1 MBP and we haven’t had an issue since…

@soundwaverecords9023

Жыл бұрын

Ya i used to have that issue. Not really sure how i fixed it. I upgraded to an M1 and it works fine with my Dante latency all the way down. One thing to check is to make sure your prodject sample rate is set correctly. If you are using an interface, match its sample rate or dantes or whatever

What cans are you using? They look nice!

@Churchfront

2 жыл бұрын

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro

We are currently using Logic for our broadcast mix, but I want to move away from it, as it has some annoying limitations and behaviors when it comes to broadcast mixing. I‘m thinking about moving to Reaper or Studio One.

@robertsimpson5801

2 жыл бұрын

What issues have you had with it that could be fixed with Reaper or Studio One?

@schlausprecher3361

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertsimpson5801 It's mostly a problem with the learning curve for volunteers. Logic has a very rigid UI which is far away from a mixing console. Reaper and Studio One have the ability to get closer to a digital mixer. Reaper has the ability to create custom themes/skins extensions, and plug-ins (I'm a software engineer), but that would take quite some time to set up, which I currently do not have. Studio One can show small widgets in the channel strip for gain/EQ/compressor/... and also offers a solo bus, which makes it possible to solo tracks during broadcast (this can be done using busses in the other DAWs, but is not intuitive - I think Ableton can do this as well).Both DAWs also have their downsides, which makes me stick with Logic for now. Reaper does not really offer an "input monitoring" feature, one needs to record arm the tracks. This means Reaper would always record all tracks, which is not what I want (it is possible to disable recording for an armed track, but that is hidden away and is just plain stupid IMHO). Studio One's UI is somewhat complicated in certain cases and we would have to buy the largest licence for all the features we want, and I do not want to spend that much on another DAW. Logic also sometimes has "hick-ups" on my system, where it will stop its audio engine because "a plug-in has reported a stability problem" and asks whether it should quit or continue, instead of just continuing... However this has only been a problem on my personal system when using more third-party plug-ins than usual. Our broadcast Mac Mini has been stable enough so far, using mainly stock plug-ins, Antares AutoTune, and some Waves stuff.

Curious why you didn't opt for tracks stacks in lieu of sending to busses?

@Churchfront

2 жыл бұрын

Because I’m a Logic newb. Lol.

@clintyoung9902

2 жыл бұрын

@@Churchfront haha all good brotha!

Sounds like you need more body mic and less pickup/neck mic in that Taylor Guitar

Of course the mix will sound good on a 10k system. How will this work on a system that doesn't have the greatest mics?

@schlausprecher3361

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need expensive mics for a good sounding broadcast mix. You may just need to do some more processing to get it to sound similar.

As a drummer and a sound guy, I have mixed feelings about drum replacement (sample triggers). I feel like most of the time the sound you wanted could have been achieved with EQ and compression.

@samsound8510

10 ай бұрын

I have to agree. When I mix recordings of our band the only time I replace a shell is if there is something really off. Even then I try to just augment the shell with a replacement. Controlling the microdynamics on drums is critical to get the impact and energy of the kit. Without it, yeah they sound like they need replaced.

We use Reason because it's what the last guy used who set-up the system. I'm not a fan simply because no one has had a chance to "learn" it. We basically mix it make it sound ... not gross.

I’ve also had problems with Taylor acoustics sounding bad. I know the brand has a great reputation, but they seem to be so thin and just bad sounding. A caveat is that it’s usually 200/300 series that I’m mixing. I’d hope the upper series are better.

@edwartedo5109

2 жыл бұрын

Try use acoustic guitar simulator

It can’t be mixed and broadcasted live due to latency caused by plug-ins, right?

@BlakeLeBlanc

2 жыл бұрын

We do! Just need to add a delay plug-in to each channel. Figure out which one causes the most delay. Leave that delay plug-in set to 0. Then with a good bit of math you can calculate how much delay each other channel needs to line up with the most latent channel. We did this and overall have about 20-30ms overall delay. We adjust the video in OBS, to be delayed to match the audio. Logic does have automatics delay compensation but only works during playback mode not input monitoring while recording. Hope this helps!

I’d love to see how you troubleshoot latency between video and audio. I manage live stream at our house of worship and we are wanting to implement pro tools for our stream mix. The problem we have run into is our video is hitting before our audio. We’ve tried reducing buffer size as well as introducing a delayed into the mix but to no avail we can’t get synced up. Any ideas would helpful. I’m completely stumped. Thanks for the content.

@chrisj5643

2 жыл бұрын

How are you getting your audio into your computer?

@tastyviews5430

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisj5643 audio comes in from the front of house board into another board we use for mixing our broadcast then from that board into our ATEM ME/2 switcher. We have a delayed that sits between the broadcast board and the ATEM.

@samsound8510

10 ай бұрын

Try running everything through with no processing and see what kind of latency you're getting. If it's more than your lip-sync delay, you'll either have to delay the video or use a non-USB method to grab the audio. This is assuming your computer isn't slow or poorly configured.

What name of your headphones 🎧

@montagninavarro

2 жыл бұрын

Those are beyerdynamics

hahahahahaha nice man!

this video is really good at teaching how to use logic, and what to do with logic. however the mixing, while its fine, its definitely not the best but 🤷🏽‍♂. nice mix tho