What do you think? Products: Wan Router: amzn.to/496knTL Omada Controller: amzn.to/4bcl5jz Waveform 4x4 Antenna: amzn.to/3HzOtCT other products are in the description,

@user-rg7sg6kp1p

4 ай бұрын

Double NAT = Cardinal SIN

I'm 23, i've come to accept that in 20 years i'm going to be exactly like you at some point. god i love this channel

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Im glad you just said 20 years that makes me happy

@SpectraFGC

4 ай бұрын

@@SilverCymbal i've always been into hardware and networking and other handy man dad stuff. i think i started being excited at the idea of buying a washing machine when i was like 16. so yeah i'm a huge nerd lol. when i finally became fortunate enough to own a home i find myself finding odd jobs to do around the house to make things better on limited budgets. so seeing your channel and stuff you do makes me think of some day where i'll be able to take on bigger projects and more opportunies through IT and other stuff i get into. Thank you for your content, i watch every upload.

@markkempton4579

4 ай бұрын

@@SilverCymbal Right? 😂

@iso-didact789

4 ай бұрын

@@SilverCymbal I wish I could live like this. Secluded with lots of land with infinite money that I can convert into Bitcoin to buy all the illegal weapons and ammo I desire on the deep web, plenty of wild animals like deer to use them on to eat, a real body perfect and free of all toxins vaccines and the results of them, and the virtuous girl by my side with our two daughters, Rini and Samus, and our son Link. But that is but a fantasy, a fictional universe where the Eternal Bitch and his partner (and associates) never existed or died when I was 12. Pure bullshit. And there is no comfort for me, no comfort to ease the pain of that fact. They have come to death, images of the revolting bile of grownupness, in glory undimmed before the breaking of the world. But me... I will linger on, in darkness and despair, as midnight falling in winter without a star. Here I will dwell, bound to my fate, until all the world is changed and the long years of my life are utterly spent. There is nothing for me. Only death.

@MichaelMassie

4 ай бұрын

😂

As someone who uses and loves Ubiquiti equipment, it would pay you no dividends to rip all that out just to use UniFi gear since the Omada stuff does the same things and now you're comfortable with it. Stick with TP link! If it works? Who cares! Great video. I'd love to see more like this.

@robertjoseph1592

4 ай бұрын

I have been using the TP-Link Omada gear with my small business clients and it is rock solid. Plus less than half the cost of Unifi equivalents.

@jjjacer

4 ай бұрын

Same, i have Unifi at home, but used TP-link when setting up my GFs apartment as it felt more user friendly incase she has to ever manage it.

@pingozingo

3 ай бұрын

So glad this video is not another ubiquiti shill.

@jetrpg22

28 күн бұрын

@@robertjoseph1592 So im a big tp-link fan, it just makes sense to me (i wish their controllers were faster and they have no real firewall if you wanna vpn my only issues), but unifi as of 1-2 months ago is super competitive. Cloud gateway ultra (~$130, ~250 for tplink) + ultra switch ($50 over tplink) + aps (~$120-160 a pop). The crazy thing is while unifi's AP look great, their performances are rather poor at even near similar prices.

As a networking nerd, heavily invested in Ubiquiti, this was awesome to watch! Would love to see more videos like this!

This is AMAZING. As we're looking for a rural property, and since I'm in IT also and need broadband-level access to work remotely every day, I'm extremely interested in your videos and appreciate you sharing your experience and insight with these products/setups! Definitely have been leaning into the TP Link and Omada stuff as options!

Chris, I love this channel, especially because I'm old and have NO CLUE what your talking about... However, YOU keep me from being ripped off by folks who are telling me I NEED to buy their super expensive equipment, and I KNOW different, because of you! Thanks so much! Book marking\saved this video too!

Super setup Chris. Very informative and always a pleasure to watch.

Thank you for taking the time to share this knowledge! :)

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Chris, superb, information-packed piece today. You amaze!

Thanks for this Chris. Fantastic info that is very helpful to me. Another great Silver Cymbal video!

Don't fall for the ubiquiti cult, your setup is awesome

I use TPlink omada gear at my vacation property. Lots of pieces with multiple PoE switches, AP's and my main router & cloud controller. Its running all my security cameras and IoT stuff over there (smart sprinklers, smart lights, gate opener, etc). I wanted higher end gear with central management without paying the ubiquiti tax. All works super well.

Great vid! And the "old looking" ground level is amazing

Great review, great channel!!!! Thanks for sharing with us!!

This is a great video, keep up the awesome work you do .

Us Networking guys have WAY to much fun setting up our own home networks. Great job man!

Fellow IT guy here. Loved the video. Very informative. Thanks.

It should also be noted that you cannot get that model of the Tmobile internet anymore (known as the "trashcan"), you must purchase it used. I did the stupid thing of upgrading to their newer model, hoping for better speeds, but the new ones ONLY connect to 5G. If you live in an area with no 5G, you're screwed (much like my area) because they no longer support 4G. This means you have to sign up with Tmobile's service, get the latest box they have, then move your sim card to the older one.

Well that was a bunch of worthwhile information. Thank you very much. It may very well come in handy in the near future.

I'm IT as well, love all your videos but this one was particularly good!

Great video. Had no idea you could combine and weight WAN connections like that. Would love to see your take on the Yolink line of LoRa sensors for home monitoring and automation.

Great video, thanks Chris!

Awesome video as always thanks!

I'm in the middle of building my Omada setup now and I have to say it's incredible stuff! I used the 3 in 1 controller/router/firewall plus switches, APs, etc. So far so good!

@Jagado

23 күн бұрын

how’s it been? is it holding up?

Great setup!

Would you be willing to provide any more information on what type of IT you’re doing to enjoy such a fantastic life in a big house on an enormous plot of land in paradise? My house is nice, but my neighbors are so close that I can hear their garage door opening. I want to move somewhere where I can’t even see my nearest neighbor’s porch light. I get jealous every time I see video of your beautiful yard.

Nice! Informative video! I was on the fence with TP Link! Their price point is always lower! I am working on my second ubiquity unifi network! I try not to exceed $$ with ubiquity unifi. The graphics and adoption process is an asset in my opinion! Combining the three WAN inputs was awesome! I enjoy your videos. They are very informative. Thanks!

I just found your channel recently, and I'm loving the abundance of practical information. I went through your catalog just now and marked several videos for watch later. In this video, I was particularly interested in the iMonnit device you showed. I found their website, but not a lot about residential applications. I was hoping to find that you'd done a video on your install but I didn't locate one, so I'd certainly vote for you to make one. I'm also a propane user in the northeast, and although it's not a hardship to physically check the tanks, it would sure help me in many ways to be able to remotely monitor the tank level. I'm 70+ now, and I can see a time coming when I won't really want to check that gauge when it's single digits outside. So, if you could consider making that video or in some way sharing the information about your install, I'd greatly appreciate it. I also want to show some support for you Omada devices. I spent a TON of money installing Ubiquiti hardware and if I didn't have so much invested, I'd put it all on eBay in favor of the Omada line. Thanks for the great information!!! ~Frank

Latest gen Starlink has a built in ethernet port.

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Wow I like the sound of that!

@StonyAcresEstate

4 ай бұрын

Me too. No more goofy dongle required.@@SilverCymbal

I'd love to see more on the tank monitor and the gatage door controls you have set up. I'm basically a town over from you, and we have 2 gig fiber in a much smaller town. I thought you guys did also.

I love what you've done. I'm with you on the TP Link VPN routers for combining WANs. If it works and you understand it then stick to it. Don't let the complaining about living "off-grid" in an suburban lifestyle. There's nothing wrong with having modern comforts in the field if you can manage it. BTW I've had people gasp at me for the 90 IP devices I have in my 1100sqft house so I'm right there with you. I'm in Texas and that week without power for me was just another week just a bit quieter and calmer. Live the life you want friend and never forget, there is ALWAYS room for improvement.

Love it! Beautiful property you have there. Were just in Portsmouth a month ago. Something like a Protectli FW4B running OPNsense or PFsense would really provide some powerful capabilities. They support multiple gateways, VLANS, tons of cool stuff I haven't looked into the TPLINK router you use though. Double NAT is not a huge issue...would be a problem if you were trying to run a server or otherwise reach stuff behind your firewall from the Internet.

Awesome video. I agree double NAT not really a latency problem at all. Love the multi-wan router topic... I want to change to all WAPs I have a mesh and works ok but have blind spots. I have a remote shop building and was using a mesh unit but I just switch to TMI and reprovisioned the house cable connection and ran to shop. I want to get internet and power up the hill 400' away and your remote mini building is giving me some ideas! I run over 60 IP addresses and love seeing an advanced home network setup like yours.

I’d love a bonded network. Great job.

@jfbeam

4 ай бұрын

Not "bonded", "load balanced". Any single connection will be limited to the speed of the ISP link in use. (three connections can use all three, which is why speedtests show an aggregate bandwidth.) Bonding would be an SD-WAN service where all connections are tunneled back to a data center where they're blended as one. (adds even more overhead, latency, and NAT)

Dude this is awesome, i wish i known this was completely possible for a home. I thought this stuff was just for business use with business like budgets

I love this channel. 🎉

Nice video, really interesting

Thanks for the tour, Chris! I hope I didn't pressure you into this! 🙂 I had the 605 with a standalone Unifi AP. I swapped it for the Unifi Dream Router about a year ago because we needed better coverage in the house and I discovered that the Cat 5e my friend and I pulled from my office to my basement in 2008 was still in perfect shape, so I set about extending my wireless coverage with plans for wired connections in other parts of the house. My only regret is that I am hearing rumblings of a second internet provider in my town and I wish I had gone with the UDR Pro for the dual-WAN capabilities. I wonder if I can nest my UDR behind the TPLink and just use the 605 as a WAN concentrator with all other router functions managed by the Unifi. I'm in need of an outdoor AP next as I want some connectivity for the smart lighting and security system in my shed. That said, I'm impressed by the prices you pay, so I'm going to look into these wireless options for a second/backup provider as we both work from home full time.

I run mostly TP-link products, and they are surprisingly easy non IT folk. Set it up couple years ago and it just works.

Declaring part of your monthly internet bill as a business expense is the way to go

I'd LOVE a video on more of the imonnit stuff. What sensors do you use, how much are they, is there a subscription fee, how do we buy them, what the control ui looks like, etc.

Great video. Next can you do a video about cell tower extenders and other ways to get data while camping

I'd love to hear more about your solar mesh setup for that outdoor AP. Certainly you could talk through the existing one, but it'd also be a good excuse to put up another one to cover more of your property!

@SilverCymbal

2 ай бұрын

Thank you, I did a full build on that here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/poyamtGpiqa3lM4.html Hope this helps

@JeffMcJunkin

2 ай бұрын

@@SilverCymbal thank you! Watching now.

Very cool and functional setup. I'll habe to get an Omada router if I get a multi-wan setup.

Have you thought about adding more mesh nodes with solar and POE up in trees/posts around the property? Could be an interesting video/series. Also I didn't see too much in the way of security cameras or home automation sensors (besides what you mentioned), which I thought you'd have more of as an IT guy. Good video!

Please more video's on Omada! I am building the same set up as you. I have about 12 acres I'd like to cover. I will be building some of those stand alone solar stations you made!

Unifi Routers like the DreamMachine Pro and the Dream Machine Pro SE can do more than 2 WAN ports (3 ports actually). If you use the Unifi LTE Pro (U-LTE-Pro) you can get a 3rd WAN port over the LTE network. There is actually no physical limitation on having more than 2 WAN ports on the unifi routers, it is a software limitation, primarily the Unfi interface. (Linux will do as many as you want)

I got AT&T fiber after they wired the neighborhood. Crazy speed down and up.

My whole network is Ubiquiti, but I would say the tplink equipment appears to be much more affordable.

Just as a heads up if your running two T-Mobile devices they are just going to split the total available bandwidth in half. You can test this by running two test at the same time one test on each device directly, then again on just the one device.The only way you might be able to get around it is by haveing one on 5G and one on the 4G-LTE. Similar to having the 2.4 and 5 ghz wifi if you add more than one device to either of the bands they will start to split the overall bandwidth but if you place one on each they don't need to share. Hope this makes sense!

@jfbeam

4 ай бұрын

I'm thinking the same thing. BUT, with directional antennas, it's possible to point them at different towers. (assuming there _are_ different towers.) Or lock one to 4G and the other to 5G. (assuming there's any 5G out there.)

@erikj9962

4 ай бұрын

I am also wondering why he has 2. I was thinking one is 5G and one is set to 4G.

I've got a ubiquiti network which is probably way overkill for my needs. I have to say it is rock solid and has not gone down in over 2 years, and before then it was just because a lightning strike took out a switch. I'll trade it all for your Kubota

Can you do a video about your propane tank monitor?

The only benefit from using Ubiquiti is you may have to do a little less experimenting. Glad to hear that TP Link is working well for you. One thing confused me - 900MHz network doesn't use Wifi :)

What video has the explanation of hooking up the waveform antenna

Nice videos; it's pretty ...pretty cold though.

Ya I'm in a similar situation in NH, I'm hoping that the electric co-op will be hookup my street with fiber to the home as my town is on the list for late 2024-2025. I had tmobile home internet, but I changed to tmobile business, cuz that gives me actual public facing ip and a much better router/cellular modem

I can't get a clear view of the sky for starlink. Can I use this ubiquity router to add a second starlink antenna to fill in the blind spots of the first?

OMG dude how come you can’t be my dad? We both live in the same state and deal with the same issues! Live free or die baby! I love the channel and I love your content. Please keep it up. For reference, I am using the ubiquity UDM pro SE with 2 internet. I have it set up so my T-Mobile is failover and my cable Internet is a primary. I actually did a live test on the stream and it’s pretty good. It takes about 1 to 5 seconds to fully switch over. But no innervation involved. Fully automatic it’s fantastic. Ubiquity pricing isnt fantastic though…

I can confirm Mikrotik does not max out at 2 ISP connections as stated @1.37. You can pretty much use all ethernet ports with ISPs if you wish however there are other more user friendly devices if you have multiple ISPs and depending on the Mikrotik model you may quite easily max out the CPU with multiple links depending on use case and firewall rules.

A lot of really great info and suggestions. Bothers the heck out of me that it’s near impossible to just get a sub-$30(or less) 50 down/20-25 up internet connection without a monthly bandwidth cap. Makes me want to start an ISP just to provide it for others.

Thanks for the video! Why would Ubiquiti be any better if the power goes out?

How do these consumer multi-WAN routers work? I'm sure they're not doing BGP (and even if the router could, no consumer ISP does). Seems like the best they could do is load balancing, where each new any TCP connection gets assigned to a specific WAN. Which is amazing at this price point, but it's not really aggregation or bonding.

@RickLaBanca

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering that myself. I agree it Has to be a weighted load balancer type thing when it sets up nat connections.

How did you get the Tplink 605 to share the data across multiple ISP's? I have one with two ISP's but they do not seem to share outbound data across them, you have to assign the IP to the WAN. I would like to do what you are doing but I can't seem to figure it out?

would the edge routers from Ubiquiti do multi lan connections?

Awesome video. I also own a similar property. I am wondering how the mesh from TP to TP link router works. I would like to do something similar. If possible a video showing how to set that up on the computer would be awesome! (I am good at hardware not software.)

I live in a rural area that has had horrible internet service for decades 1.3mbps and finally this spring we are getting fiber internet at 10gbps speed up and down with unlimited data. I'm happy I'm getting good internet finally even cell service is horrible here under 1mbps for internet down and up on tmobile and Verizon and at&t

Does T-Mobile router have DMZ? Can help with double nat

i just knew you had an IT background lol (because I do as well)

What happens in practice when one of the internet services (T-Mobile Home Internet/Starlink) goes down, the router switches to any other active connection, and the WAN IP changes? I understand the current TCP connection would be destroyed but as far as uploading a video or maintaining a connection to a game server, is the IP switch handled in the application layer with minimal interruptions for the most part? Do you ever get disconnected or run into other errors? With users on cell phones moving from place to place, it seems mobile IP handles the network change by maintaining a permanent IP address but that wouldn't happen in this case. Would running all your connections through a cloud VPN provider that provides a static IP solve the problem? Or is this a problem that doesn't need solving?

Thanks, Chris - this is very helpful. Who is your propane provider? I'd like to duplicate that setup and I'm down in Rindge.

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Rhymes does fills for me but for the gauge setup that is from www.monnit.com/ALTA/ I would look on ebay for the gateway. I got one for $80 but the sensor is very expensive but what it tells me is so critical and you can get that direct from monnit.

Its worth noting that the latest generation Starlink equipment has added back the integrated Ethernet jack. People are also reporting higher performance with the latest generation antenna. Maybe worth looking into for your setup.

That is a great Rock in the middle of your yard.

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Thank you, it became a little famous last year: kzread.infoSvdt2Lf32mM?si=IzycKUn0RH8BAja8

I'm quite familiar with mikrotik, their router can combine 2,3 or more WAN you just need to setup it correctly with the mikrotik software and it can be set to load balance, fail over or both

Network engineer here that works in the enterprise space with cisco. Its refreshing to see a channel showcase tplink stuff over ubiquiti. I typically recommend their basic routers and mesh setups to family and friends on a budget. I didnt realize they had a full ecosystem like this. Very cool.

As far as the internet and all the components used to provide the internet with in the property goes I’d like to know how much everything cost you, in about to purchase about 10 acres of land in the middle of the Texas desert and would really want internet at the speeds you have

My dad used T-Mobile home Internet and direct connection to the router for Internet and he modified it to use external antenna to pick up 3 or 2 bars. Idk if you modified it could void the warranty of the device.

Couldn't you set DMZ on those T-Mobile routers to redirect all ports to your main router to fix double NAT?

T-mobile offers a home internet SIM card, you can just nab one of those and a much better mikrotik router, (one of the US compatible ones).

Ubiquiti makes awesome ‘prosumer’ hardware, and their software and ecosystem is best in class (in my opinion). That said Omada is great, and it makes little to no sense to switch, unless you really want to jump into a new UI to tinker (I get it lol)

I've personally had terrible luck with TPlink equipment, poor support, upgrades, and reliability, but it's impressive to see how you've utilized it. I hope it continues to suit your needs and remains reliable. New susbscriber, was impressed with your video, look forward to seeing some of your others!

I think it may be worth mentioning how to bond several carriers via a VPN service versus load balancing across multiple carriers.

Do you notice any latency issues or what is your average latency with all 3 ISPs?

Tried tp link AP and had lots of issues. After going 10 rounds with support they said not to connect more than 10 devices to it, that's all it was made for. Time is money, went with ubiquiti AP and have had no issues. Looking back, could have tried microtik to save some money, but no regrets. My only tplink hardware is switches.

i have an old double wan box. its not anywhere near me but i am pretty sure its a tplink dual wan unit. now i have cable here which is decent. way better than the old radio and dsl setup. docsis/cable is superior by a wide margin. i now have access to fiber. years ago, the owner of a company that does fiber phoned me. i know who he is, and i said "are you calling to give me fiber?" and he said he was calling to do that. but he thought i lived on a different block in my little town and he's like "oh, thats gonna be like 7 grand to trench fiber to your house". lol. now they trenched the whole town, and another isp has trenched the whole town. i like my cable but it has been shitty in the past few months and the line noise is high and they cant find the spot

Aren't you on Home Assistant yet for your local home automation?

Thank you for the information. I have been delaying going Ubiquiti UniFi due to the high cost of entry. I will look into TP link as an alternative. It seems most of the Ubiquity promoters may be influencers. How long before we get a new video from you telling us you have switched to Ubiquiti.

10:00 Never change a running system. Keep your TP-Link stuff as long as it does what you need it to do. Ubiquiti of course will work just as good, but changing just for the trend doesn’t seem to fit my bill.

Does the T-Mobile router not have DMZ? That’s one way to avoid most double NAT issues

How is it for online gaming? Me and the kids play smash and some FPS games. Do you have decent ping and is there a lot of hiccups or lag? Just tired of Xfinity and looking for alternatives.

@HMNNO

4 ай бұрын

Wired is always going to be better then any wireless options. Sure you'll get the speeds but the jitter and interference from outside sources will make online gaming worse

i wish i had speeds like that

Would this work in Australia? I heard they have horrible internet there..

Show me how to be you. 👏 🙌

If you have a spare RPi you don’t need to buy a physical Omada controller - it can run on Windows and Linux systems.

This is a load balancing not load aggregation setup? Aggregation would require tunneling out to a service that aggregates all three connections. They're not cheap.

Measure the emf emitting from the devices please

Did you get around to adding a lightning arrestor to your tower?

@SilverCymbal

3 ай бұрын

I didn't and this is a huge lightning spot and the tower has been ok. They are complicated and expensive which has held me back. I still jut have the one grounded leg and it has been ok. Doesn't make it right but I wanted to let you know.

Dang was just watching your latest video and turns out it wasn’t your latest video lol

Me and my friend have a google wifi mesh system. I hardwired my access points and his is just wifi. Mine is much more reliable. His will often loose the wifi link between the APs, even in his relatively small split level home. His home is more difficult to run ethernet, that's why we didn't do that. Still think new homes should have ethernet, at least in 1 or 2 places between levels or far sections. Doesn't have to be every room. And even CAT5e can easily handle 2.5gbe at pretty long runs. Fast enough for almost any use case unless you really need the full speed of a SSD NAS. Even so, ~300MB/s is pretty fast.

If one wan goes down does it send everything through the remaining connections automatically? That’s what i want.

@SilverCymbal

4 ай бұрын

Yes, you can do it a couple of ways. You can use all 3 equally, or balance based on your max speed settings. Or some just want a primary and then automatically go the other if it fails, these allow both.

I don’t know if the setup will work with game consoles, the T-Mobile router not having a bridge/bypass mode means that game consoles will freak out because of a Double NAT.