All I know is when other player's were coming down 23 was still in the air.

@hawghawg381

3 жыл бұрын

No. He had the ability to shoot the ball just before landing.

@trenchlife6094

2 жыл бұрын

On meeee

@iishyxvietxboyii1

4 ай бұрын

lol no one hang in the air longer…

6:58 that dunk, that's my favorite photograph/slow mo footage of a dunk ever. He was art in the form of a basketball player.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@FoxholeIndustries

Жыл бұрын

Me too. It’s so awesome. They make a shirt of it that I’ve been waiting to come back in stock and saw they just issued pre orders for it. It’s from grail brand and is awesome.

It's not how high his vertical was, it's how he could sustain air time. He seemed to hover & outlast his opponents. His hands were like suction cups. He was different and we likely won't see anything like him in our time. He's the GOAT.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Vertical and hang time go in hand, but if you're talking about his effortless control in the air then yeah MJ was just different.

@counterstrike89

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hobe23 Well he was also able to do a true free throw line dunk marking the line with tape, Zion could as well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fXmkp5aYldmXl7w.html

@billsmith7673

3 жыл бұрын

He truly was different. He had the perfect body for what he did. Kind of lean, yet muscular. He was so smooth and fluid and he did seem to just hang in the air. He had good height, but was not too tall. It just doesn't look as good when the taller guys dunk. He was like long a strong ballet dancer. Also, the fact that he was handsome helped.

@Johnkoth

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. J could jump 43 inches David Thompson 44. But Dr. J did the foul line dunk first time in TV history. David Thompson from what I know could not do that. David Thompson was 6ft 4.

@counterstrike89

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnkoth Dr. J did not dunk behind the foul line, or on it, it was well over it.

Jordan’s sideways dunk was called “kiss the rim”

@GoGetYourShinebox

3 жыл бұрын

Or the ‘leaner dunk’

@mikebuckets

3 жыл бұрын

Yes also the "sidewinder".

Jordan's measured height at the Olympics in 1992 was 6'4.88". Also, he was the subject of a vertical leap study at UNC in 1983, where he maxed out at 45.76". Supposedly, he hit 48" at an Olympic workout in 1984.

@nymphopath9816

Жыл бұрын

I have the official documentation, he was recorded at 48" in NC.

@xum0007

Жыл бұрын

the goat of basketball wasnt even a full 6'5". thats crazy. obviously with basketball shoes 6'4.9" turns into 6'6".

@toppdogg2815

8 ай бұрын

@@xum0007 exactly which is why he was listed at 6'6" because the game is played in shoes

@SeecretWeapon

4 ай бұрын

@@nymphopath9816where is this documentation?

@ericwatler23

2 ай бұрын

@@nymphopath9816I would like to see that I know it’s 48 but would love to see it

Finally someone talks about that reverse under the rim dunk... Still my favorite jordan dunk

@awesomereviews1561

3 жыл бұрын

Aesthetic AF

@ericstrat3579

3 жыл бұрын

He actually had to bend his neck to the side to avoid banging his head on that one. A couple of baseline alley-oops he did in his early years - it’d be great to see a rim-level camera shot of those. * Wasn’t that dunk called the the up-and-under? His best one was the ‘88 version - he HAD to do his best then - it was the legendary “Air Jordan” vs. “the Human Highlight Film” - His Airness vs. ‘Nique...

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

absolute beauty.

@bigheartproductions5603

3 жыл бұрын

Yup me too man it’s an amazing poster too.

@sevenrats

3 жыл бұрын

As far as I'm concerned, that dunk is impossible. I know I'm seeing it but I still don't believe it!!!

Whatever his vertical was, he sure gave the appearance of flying higher than anyone. The gracefulness and ability to float an extra split second is unmatched by anyone. And his hands holding the ball like a grapefruit made it all a thing of beauty.

@aaronwright1621

3 жыл бұрын

43"...and everyone else did drugs in the league. Except Wilkins

@whenisdinner2137

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronwright1621 ok so Larry bird and magic Johnson were crack heads? Good to know. Clown...

@Carmelov2012

2 жыл бұрын

@@whenisdinner2137 guarantee you he is a lebron fan lol

@jeremyhart557

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaronwright1621 you do know the 48in is documented

@jimm_2279

2 жыл бұрын

Go hug your statue of him lmao

1987-1990: Air Jordan to the Max 1990-1993: Still as athletic but with more polished all-around game 1995-1998: Unstoppable Fadeaway Gold Standard Midrange

@robertthabassheadjacobson4968

6 ай бұрын

85-90** he was doing things in the air his rookie season no one had ever seen. Dude would jump then triple pump then shoot all while hanging in the air. I love watching his rookie highlights. Dude was quicker than everyone by a mile, all while jumping higher and averaging 28 on 50%

@ryandouglas8382

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I would break those down into just 2. 85-93 Max vert still. Then once he came back you could still see it in 94-95. Wasn't until 96-97 you could see it less

@hastensavoir7782

4 ай бұрын

@@ryandouglas8382 some say he had better hops in ‘98 than he did the season prior!

@sumnahlennon5449

Ай бұрын

​@@hastensavoir7782why is that? I was watching a 1998 Bulls game on a KZread and a commentator pointed that out also

Mike knew how to stretch himself to appear like he was flying.He played fearlessly like a center and he played with a calm approach. He didn't overwork himself which gave him space to perform. He worked hard but he didn't stress his body out.

4:28 Jordan actually hit the board at the base of his neck. So basically we need to add at least his entire head height and neck length to that jump. Incredible

@metaphoria3

2 жыл бұрын

That’s like another foot

@isaiah3950

2 жыл бұрын

If 42” was hitting the rim at his height I presume he hit somewhere between 43”- 45”. It is hard to tell exactly because he ducks his head.

@TH-cx2yx

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaiah3950 there is literally not a single clip of MJ having his head at the rim

@johnlestersunaya-rpl1958

2 жыл бұрын

1988 dunk contest where Jordan's head is 2 inch above the rim on his final 50 point dunk

@saltwagon2676

2 жыл бұрын

@@TH-cx2yx Lol did you watch the video.

That palm windmill dunk is crazy never seen that one before or seen anybody do it

@joachim7

3 жыл бұрын

Yes true not everyone has big hands like MJ

@rankarat

3 жыл бұрын

well, you probably will never see it again, its a combination of so many things.

@phillipschuman4307

3 жыл бұрын

Dr. J did it, but better (imo).

@DRob_22

3 жыл бұрын

@@phillipschuman4307 lol. I respect your opinion, I just laughed right after reading it. Dr. J was different, too.

@rankarat

3 жыл бұрын

@@phillipschuman4307 No he didn't! Dr.J qas 1 foot jumper, could never been able to do it.

MJ had natural athletic ability. You can do all his workouts you want...you'll never move or jump like him. He didn't workout to get that way...he just continued to build on what was already there. Don't kid yourself

@bobsingh5521

3 жыл бұрын

Bro but Indian men can jump

@dasylula3968

3 жыл бұрын

That’s not true its the hard work he did everyday. Cycling, jumping, doing his best in every moment. He had humility. He new that if he does not put in the work nothing will magically happen. That’s a growth mindset. I hope someday you‘ll understand.

@keribubba

3 жыл бұрын

He also took ballet classes. He was very athletic, but he trained like a madman. Don't kid yourself. Being incredibly athletic doesn't put someone in the NBA. There's lots of super athletes that don't get anywhere near that level.

@edsaban572

3 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with mike. Look at MJ’s long legs and arms muscles. They stretch like Mister Fantastic. He was just born that way.

@shenghan4897

2 жыл бұрын

MJ's brother was 5'8 and still dunked like a madman. Of course it is the natural ability that is at play.

Jumping high is good but jumping quickly is more important. That’s what gave him his advantage

@jaymum23

8 ай бұрын

You have to jump quickly to jump high. No one stays in the air for more than a second. It’s a matter of how far you travel vertically in that time. The increased motion tricks the brain into thinking he’s in the air longer, hence the “hangtime.”

Just wanted to say awesome content man, never stop grinding those dunk attempts. All love man.

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! Appreciate it!

I don't remember when or where I heard this but in an interview I believe he mentions only jumping as high as he needed to whether it was over a defender or attacking the rim...this in my mind leads me to believe MJ could command 48 to possibly a max of 50 inches...also when i look at his older brother who dunked in a video long ago...you could see the same type of characteristics in power and finesse he his brother as we know is 5 foot 8 or so...MJ nonetheless is rare air for sure!

@michaelhorsey375

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that his whole career.

@jasminetomca

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well. Conserving energy, and the ball gets to the rim quicker without the big leap - he made a lot of dunks by being a split second ahead of the shot-blockers - like the dunk on Mutombo.

@bennettjohnson2631

3 жыл бұрын

Very true also Jordan had around a 6’10 wingspan in one combine forum I found adding to that and in the famous vid of his brother dunking it wouldn’t surprise me if Larry easily had over a 6’2 up to 6’5 reach since his head is way below the basket when doing those dunks and is jumping far away too much like Spud Webb he looks to have a length advantage and doesn’t seem to be coming as high off the ground as you’d think he should.

@satatay23

3 жыл бұрын

People tend to discount his less explosive later years, thinking he’s lost athleticism. He is more understanding of the toll on his body and being mindful of longevity. Landing from jumping and slowing down from sprinting puts stress on your joints that an older body doesn’t recover from as well as a prime body.

@ahmetturgut6131

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasminetomca i was at that game, behind the backboard :)

Crazy thing is Mjs Hands were more freakish then his Vertical. Combine that with Killer instinct & Heart + Skill = G.O.A.T.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Very true!

@jann9294

3 жыл бұрын

his wing span too

Like most of Jordans competitors said like Charles Barkley. The thing I will ALWAYS REMEMBER about MJ is those Nike shoes flying over my shoulder while I was still on the ground and hearing the ball whoosh through the net and thinking that is going to be 2 MORE POINTS.

Awesome video bro! Very well researched and great info! Keep it up

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it! Will do!

This is from a EPOK article, "The highest NBA vertical jump belongs to Michael Jordan with a height of 48 inches. In 1984, Jordan reportedly tested his vertical jump while playing for the U.S. Olympic team. Those in attendance support that Jordan successfully achieved a 48 inch vertical."

@TH-cx2yx

2 жыл бұрын

It is quite obvious that he never had a 48 inch vert, and him self claiming to have tested it as 48 is not a valid source whatsoever

@SpongeBob5000_

2 жыл бұрын

@@TH-cx2yx If he had a MAX vert of 48 inches, do you think he is going to reach it with a ball in his hands, while having to dribble, controlling the ball in the air, and worrying about his shot not being blocked?? No. His 48 inch vertical would be reached in the most optimal situation. Meaning no ball so he can get the most efficient arm swing and body movements and so that the ball won’t hold him down.

@JW-ws5dd

Жыл бұрын

​@@TH-cx2yx It is quite obvious you dont have any common sense😂 how couldn't he reach another 3 inches if he was officially recorded at 45 nearly 46 inches

@raymondchow2828

Жыл бұрын

@@TH-cx2yx kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIF1sayyp7GtmZc.html jason richardson measured at 46.5 inch vertical, compare his head and distance from the rim in his dunks. note that mj is dribbling witht he ball on his dunks whereas most of jrs is he tosses it up and catches them. jr is 6'6" as well, so all you doubters of 48" just needs to compare and stop hating

@sumnahlennon5449

Ай бұрын

​@@TH-cx2yxJordan never claimed to have a 48 inch verticle. That was the measurement for the Olympics. Separate from NBA. You stopped responding after being called out. Which happens too often by people hiding behind computer screens

Great content and research!

Darrell Griffith vertical jump was 48 inches measured by Dean Smith in 1976 Olympic tryouts

@nationalchampions

3 жыл бұрын

Louisville Cardinals great and also from Louisville, Kentucky my hometown.

@ithajean

3 жыл бұрын

Griffith out jumped Mike

@nationalchampions

3 жыл бұрын

@@ithajean 😆

Reason why other NBA player having a hard time blocking MJ shots is because he literally out jump them. Over and over again he prove that. He's signature fade away jump shot and hang time..just wow

That jump from college is much higher. If you look, before MJ hits his head, he’s bowing it down already. The backboard actually hits him first around the shoulder blades & naturally get his head as he’s on his way back down.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@abbyik7357

3 жыл бұрын

That’s at least 48

@CuriusOdus11

3 жыл бұрын

@@abbyik7357 You don't know how to measure if you think that. No offense. It's not easy if you don't understand 3D space in 2D and angles.

@abbyik7357

3 жыл бұрын

@@CuriusOdus11 The backboard is about 112in, his head is about 78in. Just touching his head to the bottom of the backboard is 34in. Getting his shoulder blades there is undoubtedly at least 48in. Unless you're telling me the distance from the top of his head to his shoulder blades is less than 14in? That 3d, 2d b.s. might make you feel smart, but it's really just common sense and knowing heights

@CuriusOdus11

3 жыл бұрын

@@abbyik7357 It's nothing to do with making me feel smart. It's simple perception. Your calcs are completely off by the way. It is incredible how people deny video evidence to keep their mythological fantasies alive. There is detailed video analysis of all this. I suggest you find it.

great video homie, im also 5'9 tryna get my first dunk, keep fightin bro

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! You too!

@williamparks1503

3 жыл бұрын

I'm dying for you to read.this reply. I know I'm a complete stranger, but I was dunking at 5'9...with two hands off of two feet. Even throwing down alley-oop dunks. All you need is a leg press machine. Use the heaviest weight that will allow you to perform thirty toe press reps. That exercise will burn your calves. In between sets, perform the standard leg press (Do not lock your knees at the top of the movement) for sixty seconds. Rest for another thirty seconds and start your next set. Do at least ten sets every other day. Depending on where you're currently at, you'll be dunking in no time. I weighed 160 pounds and started with 170 pounds of weight. Started the workout in early June and just under seven weeks later, I was flying. Continue hooping like you normally do. Trust me my friend, it works!

@georgejoseph1430

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamparks1503 hey thx so much for reaching out man! for sure, i might have to wait until gyms clear a bit more in my area with covid but ill definitely try that workout out. God bless you homie, stay safe and keep grinding!

His trainer, the man who did all his training and testing, told you he jumped 48 inches. Comparing his in-game leaps to a vertical is useless.

@davidca96

3 жыл бұрын

this, he was measured in college, 48. Only one or two other guys had that high of a vertical. It doesnt mean MJ kept that 48 through all his seasons of course.

@bennymoret1339

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidca96 its true about jumping high but no Basquetball skills like derrick jones jr who also jump 46 but no Sucess in The NBA...Jordan was a Total package...in Offense and in Defense...and The most sounded Fundamental player.plus His Basquetball iQ was Second to NOBODY.....Without a Doubt The G🏀AT....yesterday, Now, and Forever.

@TH-cx2yx

2 жыл бұрын

ja morants vertical isnt even 48 and he can ACTUALLY hit his head at the rim, unlike MJ. and hes like at least 4 inches shorter

@antwanwilliamsAkrimoneyAkiApac

Жыл бұрын

@@TH-cx2yx You must have missed part of the video. MJ did a one handed reverse dunk floating to the rim and still had to duck his head to keep from hitting the rim. You do know the rim is made of steel and will bust your melon wide open, don't you? You also must have missed the dunk when he was in college and floated past the rim and hit his head on the backboard. Not the top of his head either. The top of his head was rim height and he was floating so high and far that he hit the back of his head on the backboard. You doubters kill me bringing up other people as if they are more superior than MJ...LOL That just shows how much of a hater you all really are...lol The hate is so bad that your mind is playing tricks on your eyes...lol You can't even be honest about what we all saw in this video. Do you think we are are foolish enough to agree with you after seeing MJ jump time after time just in this video alone? Magic Johnson said he saw the greatest dunk he has ever seen in his life during practice with the dream team. He said MJ did a 360, brought the ball down while still in the air and 360ed again and dunked the ball. After he hit his head the first time he made sure to not jump so high when at the rim to keep from injuring himself. That's much smarter than trying to show he can hit his head on the rim and getting his skull cracked to appease an audience...😃

Great breakdown of M.J’s vert. One of the better videos I’ve seen on this particular topic..👍🏽👍🏽

Interesting. Confirmed what I saw growing up but couldn't put into words. MJ had like reserve 🚀 that he could use to elevate on a drop of a dime. He legit soared 🦅

Guy has a natural bounce bro he’s gifted plus he workouts so thats add up

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

facts

underrated video and channel.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! Thank you!

Standing 46" with step 48". With running start, no ball or dunking distance, but just straight up, man you tell me.

@aaronwright1621

3 жыл бұрын

48"= 4 feet...Mj was 6'6"+shoe=6'7+the 4 feet you claim...is 10'7...is his head 7" over the rim? No sir. Maybe twice was it level...but most the time it was way under...I say his true very was 43"

He was jumping his highest from 85-91. He put muscle and weight on. He was around 48 inches in 93.. maybe but not sure. but in 88? Absolutely

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@casualgamer4898

3 жыл бұрын

46 not 48

@powerman1993tk

3 жыл бұрын

@@casualgamer4898 recorded by Dean Smith the fall of his junior year running a 40yrd dash in 4.3 seconds and recorded during NBA draft combine with a 48 inch vertical leap in 1984.

@casualgamer4898

3 жыл бұрын

@@powerman1993tk sure

@powerman1993tk

3 жыл бұрын

@@casualgamer4898 yeah the 46 inches has been a narrative Lebron James fan created in the past 17 years. I grew up watching the NBA since 1982 as a kid. Thats the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls. I didn't start liking Jordan till 1987 after his first slam dunk contest. It was very well known through the 80's and 90's how this guy could jump and so much higher then the rest except maybe Dominique Wilkins in the 80's. Jordan was even on a show called the Deon Sanders special 1 time and they talk about Jordans 48 inch vertical leap. My opinion from 1990 to 1993 Jordan probably had a 44 to 46 inch vertical leap. From 1996 to 1998 much much lower. But from 1984 to 1989 his jumping abilities was unreal. Watch some Bulls games from like 1986 to 1989. Jordan blocks everyone including most centers. But like I said I grew up watching the NBA and a fanatic till around 2006. Then all of a sudden internet exploded and everyone started throwing out false narratives on all time greats in all sports. Kind of like trying to change the history of sports. But you can believe what you want.

Congratulations on getting 1k subs!! Keep it up bro

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do! Appreciate it bro!

@JangSuNakama

3 жыл бұрын

10k now bro

if jordan played today, with the shoes today and technology, and media pressuring him that he needs to show his max vert, he could jump at least 50 inch without a ball

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

For sure, I think you are correct.

@danieloceans9652

3 жыл бұрын

With techs of today he would definitely be better but his shoes has the same technology still use today and his later models still has better tech and quality than most basketball shoes use today

@ahmetturgut6131

3 жыл бұрын

Probably; if he wanted to focus on that! Or, he could just laugh and say: how high you jump doesn't matter. What you can do with it does:)

@OlJackBurton

3 жыл бұрын

That's a key distinction. MJ clearly jumped higher without a ball, as seen in his head/shoulder hit on the backboard in North Carolina. Even with a ball, he could easily get his elbow above the rim while spinning his body in the air...

@theveganboxingchannel9395

2 жыл бұрын

Todays steriods also

Very interesting, good video.

3:07 he is not a freak of nature. He's a basketball masterpiece.

My favorite MJ dunk of all time was his elbow in the rim dunk. It was a masterpiece like no other that has ever been replicated to the masses. It's easily seen and known that it was his highest jumping dunk caught on video. It proves that two legged and one legged dunkers rival each other. F*ck physics.

@alexandercoffman8319

3 жыл бұрын

So True.

Sir I now enjoy math because you added THE GOAT to the equation.

Beautifully done

Nice vid dude.Jordan came to South carolina State in 1990 and Jumped from the freetrhow line with acid wash baggy jeans on. I think its safe to say his vert was 48" off 1 leg for sure.

@tonysanders1299

3 жыл бұрын

He Did What?!!! Omg That's A Hard Dunk To Pull Off!!

THANK YOU for appreciating the reverse one-foot dunk.. that dunk is SUCH a thing of beauty to watch in slow motion, i've always said it.. Giannis actually did a similar 360 version of the dunk against the spurs, that's equally beautiful to watch in slow mo

If you freeze the video at 12.45 you will see Jordan's shoulders were in line with the back board and he hit the back board on his lower back head on decent so his head was in line with rim on a non vertical jump

@CuriusOdus11

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Poor analysis. He was already on his way down too at the point the backboard hits his head after it first makes contact with his shoulder blades.

Jordan likely jumps higher during games than he does during training... As competitive as MJ was he probably had adrenaline pumping at times during games that helped him jump higher than his measured vertical.

@wothar

3 жыл бұрын

For a genius a test is nothing

@metaphoria3

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@SumboodyNao

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Mj jumped wayyyyyy lower during games, in order to preserve energy.

@issajoke2437

2 жыл бұрын

@@SumboodyNao you didn't watch Jordan play then. He said himself that he gives it everything he has every game and he certainly didn't try to preserve energy on defense. Playing conservative was not the way he played. In fact you can hear him out of breath during interviews while on the court 😂😂😂

@SumboodyNao

2 жыл бұрын

@@issajoke2437 he’s lying obviously. What kind of competitor would he look like if he didn’t say that? Anyways, if Jordan actually tried, he’d average like 40.

Zach Lavin did free throw line dunk with 43 inch vert. Jordan would have like 45inch

@Raghuveer2798

3 жыл бұрын

Zach Lavine has 46 inch Max vert

@damedolla85

3 жыл бұрын

@@Raghuveer2798 on combine it was 43

@nofalling9955

3 жыл бұрын

@@damedolla85 yea but he increased it while in the nba and later on it was confirmed at 46 inches

@damedolla85

3 жыл бұрын

No, as i know combine allows only 15 ft approach and 1 foot jumpers need more space than that. Later after combine zach's vert was measured at lakers workout where they allowed as much approach as you wanted. So zach got 46 inch vert. Actually scottie pippen dunked from free throw line

Great video

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

It was a great video 😊

Good research

I have both JUMP ATTACK books.... the first book is the best one. Both are phenomenal and both will get you results! Guarantee it!!

It's just so cool, chewing gum constantly while today's stars are walking around mouthpieces. So ridiculous. And back then you really got Hits on your face, from your opponents, and nowadays in the cupcake league they run with mouthpieces.

Easiest question in history to answer: MJ jumped as high as he needed to to get his gun off! #G.O.A.T.tactics

A 6'5" (add an inch for shoes) guard would have to jump 36" to GRAZE their head on the bottom of the backboard. Michael hit the lower-back quadrant of his head on it, and the bottom of the backboard was aligned closer to his mid-neck, based on the video footage. If you look at where he is holding the bag of ice, it's a minimum of 5"-6" inches down the vertical plane measurement of his skull, so even if he had bent his head down and hit that spot on his head at the lowest possible point on the backboard at the most optimal angle, he would've been somewhere between 40" and 43" inches off the ground when his head connected with the backboard. Crazy. That reverse dunk in '88, some of the force is turned into a rotational force, and the foot position on takeoff wasn't optimal for force transfer. Reduced arm mobility and the weight of the ball in hand create additional vectors that reduce the overall efficiency of the jump, yet he still needed to duck to avoid the rim. He's jumping +42" in THAT jump. Reduce to zero the impact of those additional variables and he easily adds 3"-5" to an all-out jump.

@johnlestersunaya-rpl1958

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.. I agree with you

@godzillahogpiece3913

2 жыл бұрын

those old college backboards extend 12 inches below the lower rim, rather then 8 like the current ones do.. even if his head was 8 inches above the bottom edge of the backboard, he still is 4 inches off from the rim, aka 38 inches off the ground... the dunk in 88...way to use big words to spin a bunch of bullshit lol...plenty of guys can acheive their max vert while doing reverse 360s and other dunks much more intricate then that lol....that is easily the highest jordan has gotten in any video footage ...he's 39" off the ground and that's as good as it gets for him...none of his jumps were his "foot position on take off" was more optimal did he get higher than that EVER in 15 years, so save it.....the weight of the ball? are you kidding? as a general rule for a 200 pound man, 7 pounds of added weight will reduce ones vertical by 1 inch...a 1.2 pound ball will reduce ones vertical by about 1/7th of an inch lol... jordan fans are something lmao..

@robjames4160

2 жыл бұрын

@@godzillahogpiece3913 MJ is 6'6". He legit had to duck the rim on that reverse dunk. The difference between 6'6" and 10' is 42". This isn't difficult math. General rule for a 200lb man blah blah blah. Which feces-filled orifice did you pull THAT one out of? You're saying that 7 pounds reduces vertical by 1"? So then 14lbs by two inches? How about 21lbs? Is that a 3" reduction? First of all, the variability in mechanics makes that an impossible generalization. Secondly, if it was to be an accurate generalization, it would be framed in terms of PERCENTAGE reduction, not an absolute value. Ultimately, the amount that any particular weight impacts lift is a function of DISTRIBUTION. Distance from the center of gravity and axes plays a huge role in how momentum gets transferred. The ball isn't strapped to the body - it is held away from the body, using what is essentially a lever. I don't care enough to get into the nuances of the math, I'll just tell you that you should've paid more attention in school. Secondly, regarding rotation and foot placement, I wasn't exactly asking your opinion on the mechanics. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE to achieve maximum lift while diverting energy into rotation. That's simple, basic physics. Thirdly - yes, the bottom of NCAA regulation backboards extend 12" below the rim. What's your point? Go back and actually watch that footage. His head and shoulders are bent forward when the back of his head/neck contact the backboard. He was also already on his way DOWN. From the reverse angle you can see that his shoulder is level with the backboard when he rejects the ball, and the only reason that it's not his shoulder that impacts the backboard is because his body has rotated during the jump. This isn't speculation or interpretation either - the video record is available for all to see. If his shoulder was able to reach the backboard, then the additional length of his neck and head at the angle of impact would extend roughly 6"-8" above the bottom of the backboard. Here's the thing... his head was bent DOWN, meaning his head and neck were not at full extension. From a raised shoulder, base of the neck to crown of the head is anywhere from 10"-14" in most adult males. Also, when I pointed out the point of impact on his skull as being between 5" and 6" down the vertical plan measurement of his skull, I wasn't saying that his skull impacted the backboard 5"-6" from the bottom - skulls are CURVED, which means the point of impact would have been HIGHER than the bottom of the backboard, considering the footage shows clearly that the back of his neck comes into alignment with it. That 5"-6" impact point he's holding ice against would have impacted the glass roughly 4"-6" from the bottom, depending on how long his neck is and the exact angle of impact. Even a modest reconstruction, WITHOUT extending his head and neck to a fully upright position, places the apex of this jump at 3" under the rim, and with full extension, right AT the rim. There is ample footage of MJ with his head at the rim, even in GAME situations, and to be frank, his 48" vertical is well documented as the 2nd highest in NBA history. The fact that you didn't understand the "big words" doesn't make them bullshit. Stay in school.

@godzillahogpiece3913

2 жыл бұрын

​@@robjames4160lmao..calm down jimmy neutron...the fact is the weight of a ball will negligibly effect vertical...unless your an overly pedantic dweeb who thinks 0.05 inches is significant ...name some instances where he got his head at the rim...i'd love to pick them apart individually... copy of my posts from comment section- According to the study you cited at 9:30, Jordan's standing vertical reach was measured at just under 94 inches/ 7 foot 10....LMAO. A prototypical 6'6 player would have a standing reach of anywhere from 102" to 106"/8'6 to 8'10. A common source of overstating vertical jump measurements is where the practitioner isn't stringent about the subject reaching maximally while measuring standing reach. There is a bracket of about 5-8 inches between loosely putting your hand straight up, and then stretching as far as possible, and clearly this was a factor in this study done on Jordan. They understated his standing reach by a great deal, which in turn greatly overstated his alleged vertical (46"). Evidence of this is the fact that according to the Pelvic landmark they used in the study, which is a much more reliable landmark, and eliminates much room for human error, Jordan's max displacement is just over 38", aka....he moved his body 38" off the ground during a max jump...aka his max vert tested in that study was 38" lmao... There has never been an athlete with more video footage available than Jordan, and even on his best jumps, he still gets 2-3" below the rim. This is in line with his real vertical being about 40" maybe 41" MAX..... which is still extremely impressive. 48" (lmao tim grover) is complete bs, so is 46", even 43 is pushing it. Anyone who buys anything over 43" is delusional lol. He's a great leaper but this fairy-tale conjecture about his vert needs to stop lmao. As for the kiss the rim dunks in 87 and 88, tilting your head front to back, or side to side, does NOT decrease apparant height, due to the nature of the neck joint. Go to the mirror and tilt your head any way possible while keeping the same posture, your height will remain unchanged. Jordan was not "clearly capable" of hitting his head on the rim lol.... he was 3-4 inches off, which is congruent with his vertical being 39-40ish". JORDAN HAD A 39-40 INCH VERTICAL....DEAL WITH IT This is some of the most delusional stuff i've ever seen lmao. never in his career has he ever been more than 39 inches off the floor in a game...yet you say with a "great degree of certainty" he had a 45+ inch vert? and then somehow it became 48? Loll...The relevant thing to look at in the motion analysis study is the vertical displacement using the PELVIC POINT as a landmark...he got 38 INCHES off the ground.... which is eerily similar to how high he gets in his best jumps in a game... COINCIDENCE? lmao at "46"... they fucked up measuring his standing reach...in the study it was 7 foot 10 which is shorter than IVERSON's lmao...no 6-6 guy is going to have a shorter standing reach then 8 foot 4...MINIMUM...and they'd have to have really short arms lmao....in the 88 dunk contest he was 3.5-4 inches off, tilting ones head back WILL NOT reduce apparant height due to the nature of the neck joint...go try in the mirror.....in the goaltend at unc the backboard extended 14* inches below the rim (the current ones extend 8 inches below), so even if 11 INCHES of his head were above the bottom edge of the backboard (if his head and neck would have been in an upright posture), he still was 4 inches off loll.. 20+ years worth of jordan footage and noone can provide a clip with his head at the rim...yet they throw around numbers like 45,46,48......sigh.. this big fish conjecture about jordan's good but not great vertical is really pissing me off....nice video tho

@godzillahogpiece3913

2 жыл бұрын

LOL..I WAS WRONG...upon further research, the backboards in the earlys 80s extended 14 INCHES below the rim... NOT 12.

Also Bobby Austin who played at the university Cincinnati had a 48 inch plus vertical jump he played between 1978-1982 in the same Metro conference As Darrell Griffith and was billed as the Darrell Griffith .

those 42 inches in 1988 All Star Game is his peak (and he was 25, and not 24) ..... I've never seen Michael with the head over the rim, remotely neither .......never, and in perspective (far from the rim) neither ...... and being 6'6, with 44 or 45 inches he would have done it I'm 1,86 metres .... arriving up to 2,30 metres with the extremity of the fingers with my hand lifted.... I jumped really high at 18 years old, arriving a lot over the rim with my wrist: that means I reached at least 2,35 metres, that means 1,05 metres of vertical jump....exactly that 42 inches of MJ in 1988. But I could jump very high only with one leg.....I had almost ordinary (for a ball player) jump with two legs: that limitated me, because in a match it's mostly needed a two legs jump. But in third time, I feel to fly ...... crazy that Michael could do that jump with two legs, weighing 25 kilos more than me (I was thin at that time) Anyway .... I've watched hundreds of MJ's videos....this one may be the best made one in terms of technical focus. My compliments 👍

I did an analysis of this on Reddit last year using the anecdote that MJ could get his entire hand over the square on the backboard. Using the standing reach for the average 6'6" NBA player with his wingspan, taking off for handsize, and counting the height of the square on the standard NBA backboard, to get his entire hand just over the top of the square would have required roughly a 42.5" vertical leap. Given that Vince Carter and Nate Robinson were measured with 43.5" verticals, and Jordan's brother was 5'8" and could do the same dunks as Nate Robinson, that seems like a good result.

Much Gratitude

In 2016, Evan Ungar from Canada set the highest vertical jump Guinness World Record at 63.5 inches. The previous Guinness world record of 60 inches was held by Justin Bethel.

@nymphopath9816

Жыл бұрын

Wow. And those guys probably never took the incentive to dunk. If only they did. (If your info is credible. I haven't the incentive to verify the claims.)

Good words Sir

I'm 5'6 with a standing reach of 7'2, I'm trying to get my vertical up but I'm primarily working on my one foot vertical because I'm naturally a 2 foot jumper.

@fleet7121

3 жыл бұрын

wow i thought i had short arms

@vergil2067

3 жыл бұрын

@@fleet7121 How tall are you.

@fleet7121

3 жыл бұрын

@@vergil2067 oh you just edited it from 6'11 to 7'1 buy yeah im 5'6.4"

AS FAR AS THE MJ COLLEGE STUDY ON HIS VERTICAL JUMP IT SAYS Maximum measurements Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in. ( I think there was a MISTAKE on Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in. no way jordan is 6ft 4 barefoot so 6'5 or so with shoes his VERTICAL reach or STANDING reach must be around 8ft 6 inches. not the said 93.67 in which is only 7 ft 9.6 inches ) Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in. Vertical reach displacement during a jump from standing 35.93 in. Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a jump from running 38.07 in. Vertical velocity during a jump from running 701.00 o/sec. Vertical reach displacement during a jump from running 45.76 in. Vertical reach displacement during a 1 hand dunk 41.70 in. Vertical reach displacement during a 2 hand dunk 40.93 in. NOTICE JORDANS RUNNING VERT IS ABOUT 9.8 INCHES HIGHER THAN HIS STANDING VERT REMEMBER THOUGH JORDAN COULD JUMP HIGH TAKING OFF WITH ONE OR BOTH FEET HE JUMPS HIGHER WITH ONE FOOT TAKE OFF (HIS LEFT) . FOR THOSE WHO JUMP BETTER WITH BOTH FEET THERE IS LESS DIFFERENCE WITH STANDING VERT AND RUNNING VERTICAL COMPARED TO THOSE WHO JUMP BETTER WITH ONE FOOT. ALSO REMEMBER THAT WHEN PEOPLE SAY MAXIMUM VERTICAL IT IS RUNNING VERT JUMPING STRAIGHT UP WITH NO BALL IN HAND AND YOU GET TO FULLY USE BOTH ARMS TO GET MAXIMUM ARM SWING AS YOU JUMP TO GET YOU AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE. SO WHEN A PERSON WITH LEGIT MAXIMUM RUNNING VERTICAL OF 48 INCHES DRIVES TO THE BASKET DRIBBLING A BALL THEN JUMPS , HE WONT GET TO HIS MAX OF 48 , MAYBE ONLY 43 OR 44 COZ HE DOES NOT GET TO USE BOTH ARMS FOR FULL ARMS SWING. YOU CAN TRY IT YOURSELF RUN AND JUMP WITH NO BALL IN HAND THEN ANOTHER JUMP WITH THE BALL IN HAND AS YOU JUMP YOU WILL SEE A FEW INCHES LESS

Great video!!!! Can you please do a similar video on Vince Carter if you haven’t done so already 🙏🏾

Well, running helps going up by redirecting those force. Unless you're saying that you can just qs high without running first.

Good to see an in depth analysis , there is one minor point , the measurement shouldn’t always be taken from your standing height , it’s from your extended foot height / up on your toes . That’s the point the body leaves the ground , it eliminates someone with massive feet having an advantage straight away . I love MJ but i get tired of seeing vids stating he has the highest vert of all time when we see some 6’2” people getting their mouth to the rim , Nate Robinson , spud , Shannon brown , Dave Thompson , all up there as well . MJ Controlling his body via core strength , timing, illusion of body movement all mixed with his abilities made him the best at ‘hang time’ and creativity that’s for sure .

For me....eventhough his vert was unreal....his hangtime is what made me drop my jaw!!

So smooth. MJ!

The best example of Jordan's jumping ability is a play against the Nets that's called "the layup". He takes off from the side of the free throw line. Double clutches maneuvering between two defenders from a dunk attempt to finish with a reverse layup on the other side of the rim.

That UNC block was beastly tho

On the backboard example. That math assumes high head was straight upmand down and the very top of his head hit the bottom of the backboard. But his posture was leaning forward and it hit the bottom of his head. And it was on the way down at that point. So at the minimum he got his shoulders to that height. So you'd have to add the length of the top of his head to his shoulders to that number

You still have to keep in mind that 6 feet 5 is tall. So when you say, 6 foot 5 guard. He's a tall guy playing the short player's position. There were several player whom could jump out the roof. Skywalker Thompson was a few inches shorter and played same position. But his jumping without a running start, was scary.

Super video

Since he definitely jumping 45 inches on that dunk it’s very possible to see his vertical being at least 48 due to it being a off the dribble dunk which cuts of your vert by a decent amount

Very informative and well done. Thanks for making this video. I suspect part of MJ's secret to his jumping height / hang time was his using his leg motion / leg weight to further his distance. Every time I see MJ jump he bends his knees so his calves are almost parallel to the floor. At the same time his thighs seem almost parellel to the floor. There's much weight in the legs and when he jumps, this type of added vertical motion in his legs seems like a little turbo boost in mid flight. And I just don't see others doing that with their legs. At least not with the entire momentum of MJ. IMO, it's really the only reasonble explanation for MJ's height and hang time phenomena. But I'm guessing of course. Whatever the secret, MJ's jumps sure are incredible

air jordan. there will never be a more graceful and dominant opponent as he was. it seemed like he dominated with ease at times. i love the highlights when he steals a pass and swaggers down the court and slams it like he's the only person in the building. meanwhile he has 2-3 dudes in his wake trying to make a play but to no avail. it always reminds me of deion sanders in his prime who was so much more physically gifted than the rest of the people on the field that he could high step all the way from the 50 yard line to the endzone with nobody able to catch him. simply because he ran faster as he high stepped than the others could running normal it was amazing to watch.

@ksh319

3 жыл бұрын

yes, we are lucky to watch his games live when he was a player. So many dramatic wins he made. Check out my squirrel jump challenge MJ video :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2yDzNSheKW7dLQ.html

Hard work pays off.. Money don't sleep

Blissful solitude of legend competitive mind Jordan

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Facts.

WELL done mate ☝️👌..Otherhand have a Nother content on KZread about the highest jumpers in the NBA and over there said 50 inch was the max for MJ

The elbow dunk definitely incredible and unique at that time, yet most of us will remember Vince Carter did that same thing and hung up there on his elbow during a dunk contest later

Don’t forget MJ was great off 1 and 2 foot. He’s one of the best all around jumpers ever

@jaysheat631

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not...I give that to Gerald Green 💯

This analysis is weird, especially regarding him hitting his head on the backboard in college. He really had his shoulder at backboard level, which would imply his head was probably 10 inches higher or about 10ft4, which would be a 46 inch vertical on that particular jump.

@godzillahogpiece3913

Жыл бұрын

the backboard extended 14 inches below the rim in 84, so that would put him at 9 ft 8, aka 38 inches off the ground.

Honorable mention Spud Webb 46" vertical !

Yeah

Look at the margin of comfort he had during his iconic free throw line dunk. Nobody, before or after, was able to do it with such a margin to spare and so comfortably.

I can dunk... my cookies in some milk.

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

Damn, that dunk off a missed free throw at 11:02...

On that block it is more like his shoulder hitting the backboard. His head was way above the backboard and he was ducking to try and miss it. I think he did well to maintain his vert whilst putting on muscle weight. That's what the trainer did IMO

Kobe Bryant had a 38 inch flat footed vertical but most tests are done with running starts which gives 4 to 8 inches more rise.

@jaymoney6233

3 жыл бұрын

I think around 2000-2003 Kobe was jumping 42-45 inches on some of those dunks.He had some crazy dunks in that time period

@Mentallect

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaymoney6233 Correct. After Kobe became a man in his prime, his vertical leap improved significantly. Many of his dunks seemed as high off the ground as Jordan's and Vince Carter's.

@godzillahogpiece3913

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mentallect nope...kobe's 38 was max vert...his standing vert was 31...and kobe was getting not even close to rim level EVER...including 2003...so 38 sounds perfect for him, kobe's easily the weakest jumper out of the three you mentioned.

@Mentallect

2 жыл бұрын

@@godzillahogpiece3913 Kobe was 17 years old when his vert was tested by the Lakers. He was very skinny, hardly in his athletic prime. Later, after he became a man, his vert was at least 40 inches.

@godzillahogpiece3913

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mentallect respectfully nope...there's no footage even in his most athletic years (02-03) getting close to rim level....at best he was always 5-6 inches off.

Do you have any upper body workouts for beginners you recommend?

@Hobe23

4 жыл бұрын

It depends on what you're going for, but yes I do also have an upper workout routine. Mostly focusing on power and overall strength.

Never seen the off the glass, left handed, off the right leg, wow!

HIS AIRNESS🕊️🕊️

His vertical had to be AT LEAST 42". The rim is 10' and he is 6' 6". Subtract 6' 6" from 10' and it's 42". It depends on how high OVER the rim the top of MJ's head was able to go in his prime.

Yo Hobe! Does that Jump Attack book available Ebook?

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, there should be on amazon!

Also on that college block his momentum was taking him to the backboard so he wasn't just jumping as high as he could he jumped high to block the shot at the same time he was trying to duck his head to not hit the backboard that being said he wasn't trying to jump as high as he possibly could but he did still jump high and get an incredible block knowing he needed to avoid hitting his head on backboard.

If u wanna have an idea of how high MJ could actually jump...check out his baseline dunk on Ewing in '92. his shoulder and head at rim. The impressive part of it is that it was an in-game dunk in traffic. It's was a base line spin so wasn't even a running start...two steps after faking out Starks and Oakley

Bro I have this workout jump attack and did complete phase 1 but after phase 1 my left knee start hurting and this is also what KOT( kness over toes) guy say pls use it at your own risk and also I didn't see much results as compare to the pain while doing phase 1

why does everyone use the free thow dunk to measure? that's the worse dunk to use he's going forward not up. its not a vert dunk.

@Hobe23

3 жыл бұрын

Great point! But, to travel a certain distance you do require hang time. And, hang time is a good indicator for vert assuming you don't contort your body in the air.

@joaquindecastro6000

3 жыл бұрын

No wonder he is called 'his airness' 😊

@keystone5917

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hobe23 I mean he’s still not going straight up he’s posing...idk it doesn’t seem too accurate to me. I don’t see players doing the vert test and hitting the tandem from the free throw line while doing the Jordan pose at the same height as they would jumping normal. Heck I’ve seen people rarely get close to the rim while dunking and go above it on putbacks and alley oop attempts

Just a comment to feed the algorithm. 👍🏻

7:35 amazing

All the improvement in his jumping ability goes together with the muscle gain....tell me how.

The 🐐

If were talking genetics Wilt is the biggest freak.

He hit the base of his head on the back board so you have to add those inches so it's really closer to 39'-40' on a long jump.

@dclop4036

3 жыл бұрын

If you look at it closely he hit his shoulders, but the one for me is the dunk contest where he had to bend his head not to hit the rim. Clearly, he could jump 48" being measured at almost 46" in college is insane.

3:08 Damn look at these hands how they palm the ball.