I feel like people are really sleeping on the middle path beast handler, maxed out it deals 1550 damage per bite with insane pierce

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

Main issue is it not piercing layers, but it does benefit way more than mega from buffs

@arthena2130

Жыл бұрын

The middle path is kinda like tacs, it needs support to keep bloons in its range. In fact, they all do, if he allowed himself glue and ice towers he could probably go way, way further. Probably breaking 200. Also, the limit he set in himself with only 3 beasts is what made him weak to ddt, just spamming orcas vs that would make him nearly unkillable.

@demi-femme4821

Жыл бұрын

T-rex is great for shredding cerams.

@Orka9ty

Жыл бұрын

@@arthena2130you can spread out the merged towers and micro the big dino. With good micro it can follow and chomps on that Bad til it pops

@togeluga_the_cat

Жыл бұрын

also im pretty sure the T-rex also deals 25% more damage to stunned bloons so thats neat

Great White, Orca, and Megalodon all seem to have their own "instakill damage cap" where if a bloon has too much hp, it can't be instakilled, just latched onto. Megalodon's cap is reached on round 150 BADs, while Great White's is reached on any MOAB.

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

Megas base cap is 165k hp layer and max beast power cap is 225k hp

@chipskylark5500

Жыл бұрын

I too watched the ISAB video

@cameronmcisaac1384

Жыл бұрын

​@@chipskylark5500 as did I

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

@@chipskylark5500 ah yes, isab def was first to discover that But tbf he probbly is the one most people learned it from due to popularity

@Susul-lj2wm

Жыл бұрын

it stops working on BADs and FBADs on 150, leh?

I think that the Water towers are 'overtuned' because they're so limited in where you can put them. Aside from a few maps, there's only very specific places you can put water towers.

@LazerDaRoyalPython19

Жыл бұрын

or use a pontoon which is kinda annoying.

@AlexanderMaes-el2xq

6 ай бұрын

Atleast its our first not hero/military water tower

@riptide1893

5 ай бұрын

it’s the same as every other water tower besides on a few maps like inferno

When you use the bottom path you have to spread the other beast handlers around that map so that when they merge with one that one will have the range of all the beast handlers. This allows it to bring balloons from anywhere in the range of any of the beast handlers to any point inside of any of the beast handlers range.

@slam6802

10 ай бұрын

He explained in the video exactly why he didn’t want to do that. He only wanted the condor to cover the top right to avoid it chasing DDTs around the entire map once they get really fast

26:10 That transition 🔥

The bottom and middle path will probably be used the most in the future due to their utility while the top path is probably gonna be seen mostly in late game

@Sweetdude64

Жыл бұрын

Great white shark is only useful on 40. Orca is only worth it past 80. Other than that, they serve basically 0 purpose other than expensive support

@anzeigefehler6495

Жыл бұрын

@@Sweetdude64 great white shark destroys the bfb, and even zomg...

@Sweetdude64

Жыл бұрын

@@anzeigefehler6495 mhm

@anzeigefehler6495

Жыл бұрын

@@Sweetdude64 ?

@loveladii69

Жыл бұрын

@@anzeigefehler6495 it don’t destroy zomg

I think you have to remember when comparing it to other towers is that it isn't just 3 tier fives vs waves. technically , its still three tier fives and at least nine other tier fours, along with whatever else you use to maxed out the beast power. puts it into perspective if you think about what other towers could get too if they had they had those kinda numbers.

I think placing the beast handlers all around the map, specifically with the middle path and bottom path, is really helpful. With the middle path, since you can place the dinosaur in any of the merged tower's ranges, it can be very good for microing. And with the bottom path, where you place the birds icon is where it'll bring the bloons it picks up back to so if it can access more of the track then it can bring bloons from farther away all the way back to that point.

I’d love to see a video about which towers synergise well with the beast handler, and maybe some good strategies for the game with it

@idkbro8456

Жыл бұрын

Moab Glue and Pouakai

@leo39850

Жыл бұрын

T5 middle and ub

@garrettguthrie6854

Жыл бұрын

The middle path gets extra damage at T4 and up to stunned bloons, so anything that stuns like top path cannon or bottom path glue and buffs make it do way more dmg than the shark over time.

@valimaa1006

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the bird can synergise with ice tower, or even the Middle path as you can bring back the Bloons into a chokehold.

I was just watching your Beast Handler Math Video, when you came out with this one lol. Also loving the Beast Handler, in all Honesty.

Can't wait for the beast handler paragon

@F4n8r

6 ай бұрын

? how is it supposed to work?

@caiossauro4983

3 күн бұрын

Chimera

I kept hearing 'Christmas takes' whenever you talked about 'Chris mistakes'

You should try and spread out your bottom path beast handler supporters, because the bird uses all of their range combined so if the supporting beast handlers are placed correctly the bird has full map range.

@ZaChemas

Жыл бұрын

yup, this has been my strat, birb for literally saving my ass, mega for bads, giga for full map stun and ddt shredding since as for me it can shred the ddts faster than the mega can pull them

Bottom path is actually really good. can stall a huge number of MOABs near indefinitely, in a specific spot where you can put another DPS tower like a tack zone to tag team them and cause absolute carnage

I think it would be interesting to see this with all towers

My main gripe with the Beast Handler is that they all look the same, making it very hard to find the ones I need in game. All the other towers are generally pretty visually distinct based on their upgrade path. But I can't tell the paths apart visually for the Beast Handler. 🤣

@jordanminners1469

Жыл бұрын

just click on the beast and it'll take you to the correct beast handler.

@THGMR-ox7sd

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanminners1469 that doesn’t work for bottom path

@ZaChemas

Жыл бұрын

@@THGMR-ox7sd it works, but it has a very small click area for the player to do it, and in late game you are gonna just be clickng all other towers while trying to click the bird, until you get lucky or decide clicking every single one of the beast handlers

I believe that next video is going to be named "Can you beat C.H.I.M.P.S with only Beast Handler?" 🦅

Iceicle impale after noticing beast handler struggling with ddts: how about I lend a hand

Speaking of Nerfing the Top Path, Megladon now only does 9k a hit instead of 165k

@LazerDaRoyalPython19

Жыл бұрын

yeah, 95% less.

@Sharpless2

Жыл бұрын

so basically useless Meh, never liked the beasts anyway.

We need a catchup of Beast Handler on CHIMPS and CHIMPS+.

You should do a challenge where you try to make enough lives to tank the BAD on round 100

@antoinemalifarge2731

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's not possible. I mean, i think a bad is insta lose

@Jackalishus

Жыл бұрын

@@antoinemalifarge2731 oh yeah I think you’re right, I don’t know if you even lose a certain amount of lives and the bad just kills you no matter what

Something to note is that the marker placement here for the bird is pretty much minimum dps, maximum utility. If you want to maximize bird pop count, you need to place the marker as far towards the back of the track as possible so it never tries to drag back the bloons, and is always hitting bloons according to your targeting. The bird can do a lot more damage than shown here, and I think it should do more total damage than the Giganotosaurus by virtue of its longer range. That being said, the Giganotosaurus could also probably do more damage if the bird was constantly pulling the bloons within its range

My biggest gripe is that you can't unmerge beasts... so even if merging helps for 1 round, it may be better to have the 2 for the next.

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i 100% agree and hope NK does sthing about that in future

@markstanley2838

Жыл бұрын

LeMME juSt UnUpGRadE My DaRT MOnkEE

I gotta say, I love the birb. First time I was using the beast handler I went for it cause it was cheapest, but now, picking up balloons and Moab’s has been crazy op for me in my runs. I want to say it’s best tower at CC, better than glue and ice 5th tiers

I think giGANtosaurus is just peachy keen way to say it. "Hello my undead archaeologists"

The bottom path birds sometimes fly in weird places because the merged beast handlers give it range and you actually can target the bird so he places down the bloons outside the range of the main beast handler and inside of the range of the support handlers. That's why they fly outside of the beast handlers range. In conclusion, place your support handlers close to the entrance You can actually see exactly where your bird can fly if you click on the handler that is having others merged into him. You can also spread out your support handlers to gain full map range

Every dinosaur and paleontology nerd raging at your GigaNOTOsaurus pronunciation rn

I don't know if they are meta, but boy are they fun. I like watching Megas drag the first B.A.D straight down and BIG BIRD moving the entire bloon line back to the start

Please try this just to see how broken they really are. PoD and Orca 2TC. I was able to buy it by round 65 with basically no difficulty up until then and then it carried me until the 90s when I had to start doing a bit of micro. It's really broken and I'd love if you could showcase it.

@FrostyFyre

Жыл бұрын

A t2c with beast master would be awesome! Would love for SJB to do this one!

@D4rKSUN1

Жыл бұрын

don't romember who, maybe Hbomb? did a short on it Prince of darkness + orca do beat chimps on Logs

@cebulak6695

Жыл бұрын

@@D4rKSUN1 I mean.. Logs is the easiest map so I would be supprised if they couldn't do it xD

@D4rKSUN1

Жыл бұрын

@@cebulak6695 is a 2tc is something you do on the easiest maps

@cebulak6695

Жыл бұрын

@@D4rKSUN1 both pod and orca are op so it would be surprising if they couldnt do chips there

Can't wait for that Teen Titans Beast Boy skin.😆

Let's keep in mind that the beast handler is a (Support Tower) so what I'm really interested in seeing is insane synergies with other towers.

The paragon for the beast handler should be called the almagation and it will be a mix of them

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

I assume the word you are looking for is paragon lol Also i'd assume they should add something to make crosspaths actually interact with your tower instead of just adding another dino and that's it, at the least allow other paths to see camo if you cpath with xx2

@Bigjar420

Жыл бұрын

It should be a chimera style beast

@Gold_hoarder

Жыл бұрын

@@edgarsapsitis6925 yeah I just got the new Pokémon so it’s confusing what’s what

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

@@Gold_hoarder you said beast handler paradox, i was just in a way making a joke, but yeah, the t6 towers are paragons, e.g. ninja paragon, boomerang paragon, plane paragon ettc.

I have noticed that the bird gets real confused on maps where entrances are also exits. Specifically the new map. The bird can and will take bloons UP the track rather than down in some cases.

If you spread out the beast handlers but keep the range slightly over lapped you can move the main beast between the ones that are merged to it

that hard crop map did it with beast handlers on that lil square got the achivement for it

Greatest accident I made... I maxed out the Orca to a Megalodon on my first experience with the Beast Handler, and didn't notice how tough the Orcas were until I saw the Megalodon jump a very good distance to eat a B.A.D.... Meaning, I DIDN'T NEED THE MEGALODON FOR AT LEAST 20 WHOLE ROUNDS!!!.... BUT I am in love... Orcas and Megalodon's are monsters!!!! Maybe I'm too old but I see no point in pronouncing the middle Rex as "Giga"... linguistically it doesn't even make sense to even start out pronouncing it that way... makes me wonder about reading comprehension nowadays, but, hey, I did take linguistics in college so maybe I'm overthinking... lol...

@VividAmbitions

9 ай бұрын

if you wanna call the Giganotosaurus a "Giganot" then by all means.... either way the Gigantosaurus is still a different dinosaur, so saying "Giganto" would be referring to something that isnt in this game lol

Top path is strong by virtue of moab class bloons being a problem. For dozens of rounds the megalodon one shots bads and all the bloons inside, and any bloons that end up beneath him, leading to a lot of pops. But against a lot of regular bloons he starts to fall off. Great for single targets not great for lots of targets. The middle path is good aoe damage. Dealing a ton to bloons in range of his jaws. He can do a lot of damage to densely packed moabs but not necessarily to any one moab. If there were more ceramic rounds in freeplay, he would probably outperform the megalodon. The bottom path honestly seems like it's just for repositioning bloons. Maybe would be really good on multilane maps, but I dunno.

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

Bottom path is good for stacking bloons so top and middle path can hit all the bloons or other high pierce things can clean up, and to catch thongs that usually would be leaking forcing you to change targetting

I've been trying a lot on chimps with sauda and my thoughts are: T3 bird is really good at bloon popping power. t4 bird seems to be worse. Imo, have t3 bird vs bloons and t3 shark vs moabs. T3 shark is worth the money but can get overwhelmed. Orca good but might not be better than more t3 sharks. T5 shark is OP but is hard to get in chimps/might not be realistically possible. T4 dino ability is pretty great so having 3 of those in the same spot can perma stun all bloons in a large area. I need to test more.

I love all the content! Keep being amazing!

Started sweating when he kept saying gigga 🥶

a strong point of the bird route is that it doesn't have fixed range, scatter your beast handler throughout the map and the bird attack wherever the merged beast handler reach

When people say giga I think of people playing ark

Hey Chris, if you use an orca and a T4 bottom path super monkey it absolutely destroys late game chimps

The condor should've dropped the moabs a little further allong that horizontal path between your damage dealers. Bringing them back so much slows down the grabs and reduces the damage potential of the t-rex

Btw Chris is saying giganotosaurus correct The o kinda gets eaten when saying it but it goes Jy-gan-(o)-tow-sawer-us

Everyone sleeping on Pouakai, when theres just to many bloons, aint no megalodon gonna handle it, but the Pouakai will

I still think you can optimize by using the towers that you max out. They are never upgraded for a second path. It might be a 052 but you can merge the lower path to the 005

@Bigjar420

Жыл бұрын

He mentions that. But honestly it’s not a big deal cuz they only give +3 which is pretty cheap to get on a second handler

@sooyster4033

Жыл бұрын

But if your 005 is already maxed out, merging an 052 to it can't increase the power

@ZaChemas

Жыл бұрын

@@sooyster4033 it cant increase the power of course, but you can have little supports, for fast bloon stalling (as the top and middle path dont work greatly until 3)

You can ultraboost the beasts and they also work with homeland defense, I think. Might want to retry with those buffs in place. I suspect they could go a lot further

@sooyster4033

Жыл бұрын

That would be wild

@martinpope98

14 күн бұрын

I know this comment is from a year ago but also curious does alchemist buffs help with beast handlers much?

i love how u started this out by saying these guys are not over powered.

I do agree with keeping megalodon on strong but, if you were to put him on far he would flop on all the balloons in his path for the maximum amount of time which would be good for balloon rounds.

9:06 basically, its not Gigantosaurus like in the game, its GiganOtosaurus

Its hard to see a difference but bittom tier glue gunner helps the megladon out quite a bit, the glue may not slow down the moabs a lot but the megalon drags the moabs to the "center" of its circle and you can out the circle half in and half out of the water so one half on the track and the megladon doesnt have to go as far and with the glue gunner surprisingky can make all the difference in some situations

11:11 there are two giant condors and a horned owl down. When you stated the rules were only one of each beast on map at a time.

We call many things, many names, I call him big chompy

Would love to see a 2MP challenge with each beast

I wonder what happens when you cross path them with ultimate cross pathing 😂

Imo, the middle path beast is (unbiased) seriously underrated and should be used more. I was able to get to 150 with supports and buffs and farms (I also used Benjamin and played on hard.)

“well balanced” also the megalodon who can 1 shot a bad:

Bottom Path Beast is really good Synergy with Mid and Top Path Beast Handlers

Reasonably balanced. Meanwhile the megalodon: What BAD?

You need to spread out the beast handlers for the birds, the merge ability is also their flying area, so you only had about half the map covered for where the bird could fly

@tippychat6293

Жыл бұрын

he wanted it like that so the poukia (5th tier birb) wouldn't chase

These are some of the most expensive 5th tiers in the game, so them being great is hardly a surprise.

Beast master just *oozes* with paragon energy, right? It's like it's made for it.

I can’t wait for the new chimps video

I went 2mp with birb path on cubism, was able to get all the pops with 1 of them (of course, you need others to get his tier 5). So, get ready for all the paths to be nerved

The bottom path is open because if you put all 6 of the bird fusions where you want him to go you can go every where on the map also he always has camo

bro didn’t even need cross paths

The Megladon can drag purple MOAABS in to the pond they are amazing

Chris if you look at the top of the wikipedia articles for thungs it usually has a pronunciation guide (IPA and sometimes respelled as it is pronounced) Giganotosaurus GIG a NOH ta saurus, pronounce the a like in comma. But people misspronounce things all the time just call it what your comfy with and I'll still enjoy the videos

Tip if you overclock the meg it will be able to pull bads later in the game and the great white can even pull zomgs

Anyone wandering what monstrosity would come out of a beast master paragon ?

@A_Steak_Man

Ай бұрын

A dipuladoncalus!

@A_Steak_Man

Ай бұрын

lol idk how to spell it

You should try a CHIMPS all pops with beast handler, it is possible i’ve already done it

@edgarsapsitis6925

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean all pops on one BH? Also guess as it's been proven by few ytubers BH only chimps is possible, although ig that's prob not news to you

place the beast handlers you merge into pouakai with around the entire map, the bird will be able to fly anywhere along the track where the merged handlers are

The least amount of beast handlers to max out a 5th tier Beast seems to be 7 in total. In case u don't want to use some many beast handlers ^-^ Heheh

Tip for the bottom path: They make Double HP Moabs seem like a normal game.

giga is the correct pronunciation but jiga is the much more common pronunciation

The megalodon needs a parragon😎😂

It turns out that with buff, the middle path is by FAR the strongest since top path struggles with volume. The middle path can shred bads with attack speed.

Man the inefficiency here, but it doesn't matter

What’s good my Giga

Thing is, the megladon is a tier 5 and can take down BAD without being a paragon. THAT IS CRAZY. Even though after a while it does stop

I got to 228 with them and the basic support of a 2-3-0 village, 2-5-0 engineer, and Sauda took really long time with average micro

24:24 "Every time I see a" 😎

me and my friends were doing this challenge when the troop first came out. Without farms and only a 1 2 0 village the cap is 95

I could be wrong but I saw somewhere that orca gives u less money per pop. I always try and throw him a little further back if I feel the trex can deal with the moabs

If this tower had a paragon, a gigatornatosorus

You should call it giga giga-notosaurus

Can we all agree that the beast tamer is literally just a diet paragon?

If a paragon comes out and it isn’t a chimera I will be disappointed

the paragon is gonna be insane

I like the price, though its frustrating to get to late 90s and run into major issues. But i like the boost/merge feature.

The bird is not glitching, they all have an "effective range", ala the longer range of all beast handlers supporting it. The dino and fish can only be placed in the effective range, as they ahve their own range, however the bird can attack all bloons within the effective range. The more spread out the beast handlers merged into it are, the more of the map the bird will chase.

I think if you set the condor to strong instead of first or even close it might solve the problem of endless chasing the DDTs. Also he is always overshadowed by other towers since the orca instakills moabs and T-Rex deletes all that passes, leaving barely pink Bloons for the condor to pick up. I think the bird is supposed to be at the end of the track and only focus on close, meaning he will only attack what passes and you can push it back to the orca where it gets deleted again.

@Fluid-combo

Жыл бұрын

He did exactly that and also talked about the bird being good as well

@valimaa1006

Жыл бұрын

@@Fluid-combo typed it in the middle of the video and also he didn't do exactly that and also people still tend to say condor is useless which he isn't. But yeah you right.

@Fluid-combo

Жыл бұрын

@@valimaa1006 he literally talked about changing his bird to strong if he started getting overwhelmed, he then got overwhelmed, then literally put his bird on stronge. He did exactly that.

I bet you’d be a great voice actor

Beast handler paragon: F.A.M (Flying Amphibious Menace) Bites, drags down, and drops off Bloons. More powerful than 5-5-5 beast handler. +100 Beast Power, and maximum 500 Beast Power. Costs $400,000.

A very cool paragon for beast handlers would be King Ghidorah

Just wanted to say you’re defo correct with the pronunciation. It’s literally gigantic in the name but after being an ark player for so long people just called it giga lol (gig-a instead of ji-ga) Edit: no matter what way you say it people are gonna know what you’re an about tbf so it doesn’t really matter that much

I think that the middle path might be the best even though it doesn’t have the most pops in what I’ve done the middle path gets the furthest with village second goes to the bottom path and third goes to top but I do feel like with other assisting towers the megalodon might be the most use because it’s basically like a cheaper buccaneer paragon

"giga" just came about due to ark

The actual pronunciation of giganotosaurus ( I looked it up ) is gi as in gills, ga as in gas, no as in not, to as in toe, sau as in saw and rus as in rust. Edit: so the nickname of giga is okay.