my favorite ice cream is vanilla btw

@half7232

Жыл бұрын

same

@werdwerdus

Жыл бұрын

best flavor

@Isa_The_Directioner

Жыл бұрын

Strawberry

@blysteryxgd6709

Жыл бұрын

Mine is mint. Vanilla is also good as well.

@Piri07

Жыл бұрын

tbh I thought that gd zylenox and mc zylenox were diffrent ppl… well turns out both of these zylenoxes are you :)

Even the TAS of this seed took the same route for the overworld. Zylenox just played this seed perfectly

@enzodeganiarantes2968

Жыл бұрын

what tas?

@Joe27000

Жыл бұрын

​​@@enzodeganiarantes2968 tool assisted speedrun, which plays the fastest route possible without human error

@Sopelmcsr

Жыл бұрын

​@@enzodeganiarantes2968 slowing down time to eliminate any decision making or mechanical slowdowns to literal 0, you just speed up the recording after youre done

@hungryhyena783

Жыл бұрын

@@enzodeganiarantes2968 these people are braindead. I’ll ask them again, What tas?

@WitherslayR

Жыл бұрын

@@enzodeganiarantes2968 search DefaultBTW on youtube

"Forgot this was set seed lol" is definitely one of the attempts of all time. :') Thankfully you caught on quickly and didn't accidentally record a 100 days Minecraft series before remembering why you spawned there :D (7:58)

Zylenox is what we in the industry call a "God Gamer". When you see him building the portal, crafting; yeah, that's something you get better and better with practice but he's something else.

Hey Couriway, Auramaru7 here on my work computer lol. This video helped me tremendously in understanding the skill in Zylenox's run. It's not just about seed RNG, or piglin trade RNG, or Blaze rod RNG. It's about playing perfectly throughout all of that. I think a lot of us couch potatoes had it in our heads that Minecraft 1.16 World Records were just a roll of the dice at this point, that any skilled runner - given a good seed and good rates - could pull off a world record. This was humbling to watch you struggle on the world record seed. You have arguably played more Minecraft than anyone else in the speedrunning community, and to see you struggle to make the portal or route a bastion - on a scouted seed no less - is enlightening for me as a spectator. Awesome video, can't wait to catch your stream after work :D

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Aura! Zylenox and the other top runners like him are just another level, glad i could showcase that!

I was actually happy to see you back on youtube! I really don't know what to say about channel reccomendations other than the fact that I hope you upload the content you actually enjoy and love. That way this becomes more sustainable for you on the long run and that means more Couriway for us!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

That’s very kind if you, i’ll do my best to remember that!

Every minecrafter should see this. Anyone that has tried speedrunning even once realises how hard it is vs how easy people make it look. Then seeing the top of the top is just another level of incomprehensible. Perfect video thankyou Couri and Zylenox!! 2 legends

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Guffy! Glad this video did it's job

@TheOnlyName

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, speedrunners make it look so easy

The interview over the attempts was perfect. The background gameplay at 7:59 and 10:03 made me laugh lol

This is a perfectexample of how GOATED Zylenox is. He played this seed near perfectly without even knowing where everything is. I can't even imagine being that good.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely another lever at the top, glad i could showcase it!

@inlandmango8282

Жыл бұрын

@@Couriway lever? 🤔

@Muhammad-ql9sf

Жыл бұрын

@@Couriway level*

I don't know what it is, but these more recent videos since your return to KZread have just been next level. I loved your old ones, of course, but these are so high quality and time seems to stop when I watch them, which is always a fun feeling :) By the way, I didn't realize how insane getting a 1:0x overworld was until I watched the failed attempts montage. Top runners are superhuman nowadays lmao Loved the video couri

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! This vid took forever to make so im glad it shows

It took zylenox 36 seconds to go to the overworld and triangulate (~4:42 - 5:18 in his video), so saving 14 seconds means the gameplay parts you couldn't skip were still slower. It's a crazy world record.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thats insane WOW

Even though this record was insane, there is still a lot of places the run could've been faster (like barter and blaze rates), so don't give up on attempting it, even if it seems impossible!

the format that you presented your attempts was awesome. it really gave what felt like a full view of how you approached this. i appreciate you highlighting all of the times you messed up as opposed to just showing the one run that succeeded. the text notes about what went wrong for all of the attempts during the interview were perfect, i was able to read the notes and listen to the interview at the same time without missing anything. i watched the whole video without checking the time or pausing or skipping through it. this was my favorite world record rerun video. 10/10 on quality

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Amanda, it means a lot coming from you!

Content idea. I loved during the 1k runs when you would get Pigstep and one cycle with Pigstep going. I think that'd be a fun challenge run. How fast can you beat the game while having Pigstep playing when the dragon blows up?

god i remember watching zy's "the end" building series and I cant believe how far he has come. Absolutely incredible to see the journey. also thanks couri for mentioning geometry dash, i love that game :D

@domca26_

Жыл бұрын

the end is an 11/10 level for me, so fun

congrats on beating the world record couriway 😄

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you josh i deserved it

This video format is just so enjoyable to watch it's almost weird. I think you could even implement the same type of structure for the recaps of 100k seeds, just talking a bit over each of them. Amazing video btw, both you and zylenox are absolute legends

I've loved your return to KZread and streaming, Couri. I haven't been able to catch streams, but I love your style and passion when it comes to making videos. My day's been good (just work and stuff yk) For what I've been working on, I've been grinding away at a book that I've been working on for the past 5 or 6 years. It's going really well, and I think it'll be ready to send to publishers by the end of the year. Seeing other people dedicate so many hours to something they're passionate about gives me the desire to keep going and to make the things I love the best they can be, so thanks, man. :D

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thats so awesome!! Best of luck on your book for real, im sure it’ll turn out great!

Hey couri! Great video I love it when you rerun seeds as ssg and the interview with Zylenox was the icing on the cake! I've been enjoying the streams a lot recently, your community was a great intro to mcsr LOVETHEMETS

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad youre enjoying the content!

18:35 that, and your videos always have this comfy vibe that I really enjoy. It's hard to explain or put into words, but somehow you put like a "soul" into these videos, and that's a rarity in my eyes. Wish I had more to say or suggest but I just hope to see you keep having fun with this, something about your style just feels very organic.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that, thank you!

Great runs, I drove 40 minutes today to unplug someone's router and plug it back in

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Oh boy lol, that sounds like quite the experience!

Actually loved this format of how through many trials you have to go before achieving the best possible outcome.👌👌

Love all the detail that you put into the editing

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@TheOnlyName

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I found it entertaining to watch all the resets with the text for all of them

Your vids were a gateway for me into me watching Minecraft speed running, glad to see you making content on it again! The collab you did with Ludwig you did the other day was top tier, would be cool to see other collab vids in the future schooling people on how to speed run better.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I'm extremely interesting in doing more speedrun content with other creators, and hope to bring more of that to youtube soon!

I’ve been getting into speedrunning lately, and have been watching your tutorial type videos. Thank you for these. I hope you’ll make some more of those sometime; I would really enjoy it!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! A couple other people have asked as well so it might be time haha

Really enjoying the new content on the channel. For me, watching mcsr on Twitch and KZread has really been fun in these past few years. Seeing how much the speedrunning community has grown is absolutely amazing.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad youve been enjoying the community :)

Yo couri! Been watching for a couple years now, definitely enjoying your videos recently with your attention to editing. Don't stress yourself out, but I hope you are able to stay happy while making content

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! I’ll keep trying my best :)

hey couri! i don't watch your content as much these days but i really liked the scouting and routing kind of style that you used to do a bunch, as well as the chill way it was edited. i think that really showing the process of how it took you sixty something or whatever attempts to beat zy's time was a great way of showing how hard it is to play a seed this well blind, even for me who watches a lot of mcsr and is active in the community. i hope you make more videos like this! excited to see more youtube content :)

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’ll definitely keep all of this in mind for the future

Great video man, I'm really glad you're uploading amazing content again. You inspired me to do speedrunning, and now I've started streaming on twitch, and I really want to thank you for getting me into speedrunning.

Loved the video! I appreciate inmensely the editing and work you've done Couri. And the MCSR community is just so inspiring to me, huge props to every runner for their insane dedication. Great video! :D

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

This was a really fun video to watch! The editing was actually really well put together, and your commentary was great, as usual! This video really put in perspective how skilled Zylenox was to get his wr, so another massive gg to him. I admire both his dedication to getting world record, and yours for beating this run with a faster time, haha. I hope your day is going really well! Mine has been spent sleeping because I did not sleep well last night and had a bunch of nightmares, but I’m doing quite a bit better now, which is good! As for projects, I’ve actually been sticking to a pretty consistent upload schedule on KZread, which I’m really proud of! My channel is growing (if slowly) and it makes me ecstatic, and I think I’m almost ready to start streaming on Twitch soon! I thought you might like to know that, since you inspired me to start, and since I’ve been kind of commenting my journey every now and again Thank you for this wonderful video, and I wish you the greatest of luck continuing your own content creation journey! I’m very happy that you’re doing things that you love, and I wanted to remind you that I’ll be here every step of the way! Have a wonderful day, and rest of your week! :]

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks as always for the kind comment, and im really excited for you with your youtube and twitch! Best of luck and i hope you continue to enjoy what you do :)

@themagicmustach

Жыл бұрын

@@Couriway thank you very much! I appreciate the kind words :]

Seeing Zylenox do this is insane. He inspires me in Geometry Dash and now he is giving me more motivation for speedrunning Minecraft. This man's skill is insane

Hiya couri ty for this it rlly helped me understand the complexity and tediousness of speedruns keep doing the great work we all appreciate it!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed!

Your editing is amazing, I love how you incorporated the Zylenox interview with the clips of why each attempt failed. I'm not particularly interested in speedrunning so I'm not sure why I clicked, but I stuck around because your commentary made it so accessible. I hope you're able to take some of the things you set up for this video and make it easier and faster for you to make another!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! My goal is to always try and introduce more people to speedrunning minecraft, im glad this video did that for you!

Really good video! I enjoyed it the entire time and liked the style of it all!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

hey couriway, i've been watching your videos before you started your 1000 speedrun challenge, and I wanted to let you know that I'm really enjoying your recent uploads. love the format of this video and the relaxed vibe while also being entertaining. do whatever feels right with the channel, and I'll continue to support it :D

This is a really good interview. I really agree when he’s talking about Silver being more analytic than other runners for a while, that’s something I’ve noticed for a while, he was really the first top runner along with crookst I really noticed paying attention to microoptimizations (splits, routes, crafting, etc.). God tier video, your passion for speed runners and speedrunning is so obvious and this is clearly a labor of love.

Thanks for the video couriway! I've been watching you ever since you got your first hyper modern world record, I'm glad you are back on youtube. My day was great, I love my current part time job teaching tuition while waiting for university!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Thanks for the kind words and best of luck with your job!

Hey Couriway, great video here, I've been watching your KZread video during my work lunch breaks for over 2 years and I really do enjoy your perspective on Minecraft and all things speedrunning. My favourite videos have been your no reset 1000 runs videos, the format was familiar and helped me unplug from my job for those 20-30 minutes. The set seed runs over new world records were also fascinating where you were learning and teaching us about the strategies, movement and tactics involved in the runs and things you were looking to learn. Generally speaking, I really enjoy your style of commentary over anything minecraft, and to be fair you've had your fair share of misses regarding video series (hardcore survival just didnt work imho) but I think what youve been doing lately has been excellent. Id love to see more videos of your 100k runs like you did regularly for the 1000 hardcore runs or the no reset runs as they were 20 minutes of pure pog with all the mishaps, struggles and learnings. I think your commentary on Minecraft speedruns is second to none. Always watching your full videos and I rate you VERY highly as a streamer who has helped me to learn interesting ways to stream content and do branding etc... your fun style, with lots of memes, pepes, poggers and sadges is absolutely epic and whatever you continue to do i hope that you focus on enjoying the content creation side of it as I would rather see you continue streaming over the years than burnout trying to do content that you dont enjoy. The more you enjoy it, the better the content and the more I enjoy it. Hope this helps a bit mate and wish you well in future.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this message, and im glad i could be a constant source of entertainment for you. I’ll keep trying my best!

@crazygoodkungfu-my3bj

Жыл бұрын

@@Couriway *high five* My pleasure Couri, I'm cheering for you mate

really love the videos recently, I'd totally watch that full interview if you uploaded it lmao

I like how your are adding memes to your content. But in general your content is some of my favorite. Keep up the amazing work Couri!!!

very good video. love it that you are taking yt seriously again!

Banger vid couri Love the editing btw, best montage of fails

I've always loved your videos and i'm really happy that you upload more and stream regularly. Due to a lot of time i'm dedicating to school and my hobbies i don't spend much time online but always when i see a couriway notification i open it :) The quality of this video is insane and i hope more people find your channel and appreciate the work, though i can't tell how it would feel for someone who hasn't watched your channel before. Hope you (or anyone else reading this) are having a great day and congrats to Zylenox on the world record!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! I really appreciate you spending so much time watching and enjoying my content, best of luck with your school and hobbies!

@hanaawu

Жыл бұрын

@@Couriway Thank you :)

Great vid Couri, the interview shared some good insight on how much effort goes into a WR run like this! I did a few attempts at running this seed too, and it really puts into perspective how much faster Zylenox was at every split than me and like 99.9% of people, not to mention in an RSG setting.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! And yeah he is truly incredible

There are a lot of youtubers that I like and that I'm subscribed to. But I'd say you're one of the few that I would watch before everyone else because I've come to expect such quality from each video you post. Keep up the good work

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! That really means a lot omg

Well you made your point im acc amazed to realize how crazy this run is. Like I thought it was crazy before but now 😳

I love this video! And the last one, too, your content has been great lately.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Really cool video. It does sort of put things into perspective of how good the top dogs are. You're also still up there. Love your work, hope you're enjoying "normal" work as well! :D love your vids

This was such a good video!! Big fan as a casual viewer!

Absolutely love this type of content please keep interviewing top runners

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

I’ll see what i can do!

Being a bridger, after doogile got the wr i started to get more interested in speedrunnig and learning the new techniques, and i find it really cool that if you put a lot of time and effort into one specific thing you can completely dominate the category you are playing. Thanks for making this video i really enjoyed it.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thats what i love about speedrunning as well

Incredible video as always Couri :) it’s amazing how far MCSR has come and how impossible these WRs are becoming. I’m graduating college soon and have started interviewing for full time teaching jobs, so I’m excited to get my career started and finally have my own classroom. Glad to see you putting in work on KZread again, always love a Couriway video :)

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck, that sounds so exciting! And thank you!

20:01 My day has so far gone splendid, edited a video as well as planning another video soon. Played Pokemon Go with my brother earlier and we caught a Latios. Going to play some Terraria with my friends later. Anyways, I love this video, I hope to see more interviews like these in the future, really has a laid back chill vibe, yet very informative. Very glad to see you back on KZread and wanting to treat it seriously, hope you manage to balance the content out by not burning yourself out and upload what you love. Zylenox is genuinely one of the best players I've ever seen, from his GD days to MCSR he has not fail to amaze all of us. I'm glad you get to showcase and explain his run as well as trying to pull it off yourself. If anyone can be the mascot or representative for MCSR, it should be you. This video really inspires a lot of us.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words, and congrats on the Latios thats hype!

Thanks for the great video! Really puts me in awe of the skills these best-of-the-best speedrunners have. I liked the interview segment, Zylenox seems like a cool person My day is going pretty well now, I have KZread and pasta

10:30 that isnt a ghost bucket, you are looking at the top of the magma and picking up the water above the magma. to avoid this, aim at the side of the magma

i love how you brought zylenox's past from gd into the interview, i really liked his stuff in gd and am happy to see him having the same amount of fun in a different game

it's honestly really interesting hearing you talk about it because I do love hearing about esports in an actual sport perspective. These are actual athletic skills needed - reaction time, ability to plan, physics, knowing exactly how long to wiggle your mouse for to spin the exact right angle... yes the physical fitness isn't as strict as most of what we think of as sports but the needs of a horseback rider are different than a swimmer too, y'know? and it's especially interesting hearing you talk about it because you're someone who's looked at it all and gone "wow, I have skill but I can't keep up with this Pro Circuit up here, so I'm gonna do my own thing even though I'm not setting any records anymore". and as a result you probably have had more wild stuff happen to you than most runners because your experience isn't as linear. So you come out of it with a very unique perspective compared to most. and so while I already get a lot of the information from channels like The Weekly Thing, it's cool hearing your POV on it too.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

This comment is basically exactly what im trying to do these days. I’m in a really unique spot with my experience really throughout minecraft and i always try to view it through my own personal lens. Im really glad it comes across that way and you find my perspective interesting!

the interview part was so relaxing to listen to I forgot to watch the attempts lmao. Great video Couri!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

banger of a video, needs more views! so underrated!

I really liked the tier lists Those were funny do more of those And in general my favorite videos were always like the you exploring various set and random seeds and running them I would say continue to do those But more importantly make the kinda content you wanna make Love the channel Glad to see you back on yt again

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do!

Regular day, loved this video! So good to have you back more regularly, that’s just what I want to see!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it, more to come soon!

Yoooooo this is fire. Dude keep it up I love your videos and this one is really cool and different.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

I really enjoy the stream related content. Just a stream edited down for KZread quality is really satisfying. Minecraft lockout is a favourite though, would love to see more of that or anything related.

Wow 80+ attempts just to beat him, when you know the seed... Idk if I should give more praise to Zylenox for his skills, or you for your persistence! My day is going well btw :)

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This video just shows how insane Zylenox's run is

My day was great I watched to the end Lolol ur videos r awesome keep it up

Your previous video showed how much of a grind is required to get a WR run but this video showed how much skill is required to get a WR run! I'm just amazed at how optimized he played in the WR run!

Great vid Couri! Watched till the end

Good video most people think seed is the only thing that matters and this shows skill has a big factor as well

my day was good. I like your content because you are nice to listen to. and your world record info is really cool and that you take the effort to beat his seed. its just good content

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I’m actually super new to the channel but I’ve been enjoying a good bit of your videos so far. Because of that I don’t have a lot of good recommendations but the first video I saw from you was your collab with Ludwig. So I guess more similar competition against other creators would be super cool to see. Also my day is going well 😁

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I’d love to do more stuff like that with creators and help increase the reach of minecraft speedruns!

Bro I missed ur content so much dude... so awesome to see you back! S tier content creator

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

I like the “interview” style of video where you discuss some thought process with a top speedrunner! Also you, zylenox and others have inspired me to start speedrunning mc for fun, so thanks

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

It was a Monday. All the work that had come in over the weekend needed doing, so at least the day passed quickly. Glad to see you back though with the new content and looking forward to more!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt! I’ll try my best

Amazing video! This video just shows how ridiculously skilled the players you talked about are. You said u wanted new video idea and I think that a Minecraft lockout would be really interesting maybe against Illumina or Rekrap if you can

This video and it's edits where amazing. I just had problem to task overlap watching the attempts and listening to the interview because I wasn't really in speedrun mood :D

Wonderful video, Couri. I had an okay day, just a little sleepy. But this has definitely made it better. Love seeing you make content you’re so clearly passionate about. Those are always my favorites. CouriL

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

one thing i would love to see is just more speed running guides bc those are so interesting to me

glad you're back and grinding the KZread!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Me too! More to come for sure

This video was really cool and interesting and I've been enjoying the new content a lot. Also, I would love to listen to the whole interview with zylenox.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’ll probably keep it private for now just because it was a bit personal in some parts, but im glad youre enjoying the content!

Honestly the bed cycle looked insane. It looked like a bed was just teleporting to your hand.

I really really enjoyed this video! One of the best you've put out I think. Really cool to see you contextualize how good Zylenox and all the other top runners are. I'm a chess coach and today I had 3 lessons! Very good day so far

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! And that sounds really cool

Recap highlight videos are a good idea. You run into tons of crazy stuff and that is fun to see.

This is a really well edited video couri good job! widepeepoHappy

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I absolutely love these videos. Please keep on going with youtube videos.

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

Really enjoyed this video, could tell you took your time and actually loved what you were making. You said to tell you about my day so my narcissistic self took that as as an excuse to say: Im working on a book, so today I worked a bit on it, and actually fixed one chapter that was such a bad chapter Im convinced a 4 year old wrote it not me, but I fixed it. So I guess thats pretty cool, make more of these kind of videos! I like them

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And good luck with your book! That sounds so awesome

Loved the video! Since you asked about our opinion on the channel, I do have to say I do prefer the optimized set seed videos, instead of blind runs for youtube videos. It adds something different to what you already offer on your streams. This video was great!

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Good to know, thank you!

coming from stream, this is prob one of my fav vids youve made, feels similar to the duos you did w rekrap the other day

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Beck! I really appreciate that

love your more high level analysis of these wr runs as other channels like Karl Jobs do videos for people who don't already know all the strategies used in speed running. love your videos overall

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

very fun video to watch. also i think it would get more more views if the title was something about interviewing zylenox

My day was okay. I struggle with a lot of things and today I didn't struggle as much which was nice I guess. I ended the day with watching a few minecraft videos, this one included. Thank you for your content!

More videos! 😂 love any content you make man

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ll try!

Always appreciate you bro, I'd even watch you give thoughts on graphic design

to be fair tho, for some reason, couriway is so fun to watch, like he is such a sweet guy.... Good job on the run. Waiting for the next video, c ya

my days been good. I love speedrunning and learning more

I’ve never played a single world of Minecraft in my life. I also watch all of your videos and tune into streams when I can. I also have been around for probably almost two years. My point is you are an extremely talented content creator and I’m glad to see how f’n great you are doing. Cheers my friend I can’t wait to see where you go 🖤

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Its always cool to me how some people who have never played can still enjoy watching, glad youre here!

my day was good. Love what you're doing with the content

@Couriway

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Once again, congrats to Zylenox for his world record! I'm both a GD and a MC player, so i was very excited to see him finally getting it, and also glad you touched the topic like this, Couriway. Extreme dedication as always (My day was great btw, i went to church and i'm feeling very good)

19:55 ish where you just casually make up some armor to use up the time before the dragon perch, so funny!