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@DonePlaying

11 ай бұрын

no

It took me way to late in life to learn a simple truth: People who don't like something simply because it's popular are as much a slave to fashion as anyone. You're still letting other people decide what you will and won't value.

@jankapaa3074

11 ай бұрын

What a pity it usually takes so much time to understand it.

People will never know what it was like in the 80's in the East Bay. There was so much music that it's shocking to look back on. I remember in 1989 I saw a battle of the bands at the local community college, Diablo Valley College for $3. One of the bands that played was Primus.

Thank you for mentioning the MC5 as they are so often overlooked, especially by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

@timshumway8564

9 ай бұрын

Yes, they were amazing. They also were left behind with the advent of straight edge. Besides, whose liver and kidneys could stand up to all that?

That thumbnail was spot on with a wink. Definitely worth an eyeliner award. What a brilliant documentation about a movement that could not describe itself in the way Mary did.

@ThinWhiteAxe

11 ай бұрын

it's beautiful lol

Billie Joe's aunt was my land lady in Layton, Utah back in 1993 and I used to have a bunch of early CDs they would hand out at shows. All that stuff is gone now but Green Day has been one of my favorite bands since '94. Listening to Mike Dirnt taught me how to play bass, and figuring out Espionage and Warning on guitar started me on my path to playing guitar. I still listen to and play Green Day songs every single day.

I was a drummer in a punk band back in 1982. Good times. Thanks for the video, Mary. : )

I'm a proud punk rocker and have been ever since I first heard Social Distortion in 1983. I never gave much respect to Green Day until I heard Dookie and then I f'ing fell in love with them! So much FUN, the ride they've been on the past 3 decades! So many great live shows!! Punk is as much fun to play as it is to listen to!

Green Day has been my favorite band since I was 13. They are the reason I picked up the guitar and wanted to make music. I never grew out of them, or any of the other punk bands I listened to. I’m 26 and punk rock is still the blood that flows through my veins. There isn’t anything that has ever resonated with me on an emotional and spiritual level the way that punk has. The punk experience is something that I can’t describe in words. Rather, I can demonstrate it through a story. In March of 2020, just before the pandemic hit the US, I got the chance to see one of my favorite bands of all time “The Explosion” in Manhattan. They’d been retired for more than a few years, and are definitely one of the more lesser known bands. They were opening for… honestly I don’t even remember the headliner, I wasn’t there for them, I was there for The Explosion. There was maybe 1 to 2 dozen of us there for The Explosion, which gives you an idea of how obscure they are. They went up there and rocked out like they were playing MSG. Matt Hock had a mic taped to a mannequin arm and he’d use it to allow audience members to sing. I was singing the loudest, so he kept putting it in front of me. After the show I got to talk to him, tell him how much his music meant to me and gave him a big hug. He wasn’t a celebrity, he was just a normal guy. I cried that night. Sorry for the really long comment. It’s just that punk is one of the few genres where you can experience something like that. I just wanted to share it.

Green Day lived in a van and toured the Punk route, staying in peoples' basements in the late 80s. They paid their dues, and brought catchy songs to a monotone 1990s, with heroin-addicted sad people, and manboys. I was more of a Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, NY Dolls and Exploited fan, but I have respect for Green Day. Blink also paid their dues, but I never listened to them much, but again, respect them.

@mikepage8183

7 ай бұрын

Blink 182 are a great band but they didnt pay their dues in the same way. Off the back of the work of bands like green day they were given a lot more money to play with and didnt have the same hardships….. that being said I am not slating them at all as I am a big fan. They just came at a time it was easier to “make it” 👍🏻

Growing up in a small dark frozen hole far above the polar circle, the "town flavor" was our budding 2nd wave black metal. But it's still crispy clear, going by the record store on my way home from 1st day of a new school year: beaming at me from across the room was _a green jewelcase._ It was the _Basket Case_ single, and I couldn't let it go. It became the first piece of music (single) I ever bought. I hauled that thing with me in my backpack wherever I went, because we were still at least 2 years out from owning a stereo with a CD player at home. As a techy household but with parents not big on music those days, we actually got a CD-ROM unit for the PC before a stereo w/a CD player. So once we had that, I'd sit at the computer, pop my _Basket Case_ single in and plug my off-brand walkman headphones into that ❤️

I will never forget my first time. It was May 1994 and about 30 of us were on our way to our nearest Amusement Park. The people next to me had brought a boombox. They fired the CD up and I heard, "Do you have the time...." It started to skip, and it took three more tries before they got past the opening line. By the time the chorus hit I knew I had found my next great band. The next day I went to my nearest store and brought a copy. I love Pop Punk and all of its forms. I have never been ashamed of the music I like.

This 40 year old punk kid thanks you for this video. It actually made me teary eyed. Keep up the good work.

I love this Mary. Having grown up in southern California BF, X and social D were indeed huge in my circles and later Pennywise and Offspring later. Lived in SF in my 20s and remember rancid and greenday were huge and inspiring (had friends with bands directly influenced by GD. ). Thank you for the rear view look at this energized music 🎶👍🎶👍

@mojorider8455

11 ай бұрын

loved John Doe and Exene's songwriting, their vocal harmonies were great too

When Punk/Pop came around, I reached for my battered copy of the Buzzcocks "Singles Going Steady" and gave it another listen. If you love Green Day and their like, treat yourself.

I live for these podcast of urs. Ur voice, ur research, ur presentation. Thank u Mary. Every time I feel like I’m overwhelmed and stressed out, I listened to these. U have no idea how much u’re making ppl’s days better.

Excellent Epitaph was such a huge feature of my young guitarist life, especially Pennywise's straight ahead. I still remember my older brother coming home after buying it, throwing the CD In the parents' AIWA sound sound system, turning it up way too loud, and Fletcher's opening chords to 'Greed' kicking my head in

I will always love punk music. It's just so special.

Love your music theory, musicianship and genre history videos. Great job, Mary.

Really well put together video! I got into green day in the early 90’s thanks to a friend with an older brother and MTV….. I then (like you) picked up a guitar and learned to play. Green day (as you said) spoke to me in a way other music just didnt and catapulted me into a world of music and opinions that allowed me to be me. Thank you for this video and I will look forward to others. Keep up the good work!! Punk for life: mike x

Your voice is so captivating, I could listen to you talk for hours and hours! Always enjoy watching your videos, this one hits especially close to home for me, having grown up listening to a lot of these records and having them influence my musical tastes. Thank you for everything you do!

Great historic music documentary! Mary you do this better than anyone I can think of!!! Thank you! Please keep doing what you’re doing! As soon as I can afford to you’ll be my next Patreon account.

Really loved the editing in this video! Green Day was my first concert and I'll never forget the raw energy in that arena. I've been on an Avril Lavigne phase again lately and it's made me so nostalgic for 00s era of music and the aesthetics.

Well I slammed to the DKs at the Mabuhay Gardens in SF and I can attest, your coverage is spot on. Well-researched and professionally presented - you ought to go into broadcasting

Another great minitutorial. Thanks Mary

Could you perhaps do a documentary on something that doesn’t make me feel like an old git, please 😂

Although I lean more on the metal/metalcore side of heavy music, I loved this video from start to finish-- a concise love letter to a genre and its pioneers, well put Mary!

Going to send this to my daughter Anna. We saw (NFG) New Found Glory this past Monday here in Raleigh NC. This is her favorite band of all time and it shows by her extensive CD collection.

This is awesome. I grew up listening to these bands but never really thought about where they came from, despite hearing all the legends about the earlier punk scene of the 70s an 80s. It's about time the story of the 90s came out.Thanks Mary!

I bought my first guitar, a used Hot pink modded Ibanez the summer of 1994. The band that taught me to play a power chord .. Green Day. The first full song I ever learned ..... Basket Case. They were my gateway to an entire scene. To the Offspring, Nofx, Bad Religion, No Use for a name, Rancid, Goldfinger, etc All of whom, while my tastes and skill have grown and changed, are still amongst my favorite bands Hell .. just today, I was blaring modern bad religion in my car, singing at the top of my lungs at 46 years old.

Great one…Dookie was also instrumental to me…Might sound familiar but Basketcase probably was the first song I was able to play guitar with in a garage band…Felt great and never looked back from there and explored music further…

Couldn't agree more with what you said about Punk having rules. I'm 56 and was a young punk in 78 but I still listened to what I liked. I can't stand music snobs. And very nice to hear correct pronunciation and enunciation which is sadly missing these days. Well done.

Great stuff! Love the look back into the music that made me!

Love Green Day Lucky to have seen them live a couple of times 🧡

Awesome! Love me some punk, both original and Pop :)) Great job as always Mary

That Sum 41 quote is absolutely brilliant

Can I offer up a small correction? Because IIRC “no major label bands” was not one of Gilman’s original rules; it was actually put into place BECAUSE Green Day signed with Reprise, out of fear that the scene and the club would become just another place for A&R reps to swarm in and find “the next big thing.”

Oh god. My favorite musicist talking about my favorite genre and bands. Lovely.

as for the post punk, Paul Westerberg always had a sense of melody and killer lyrics for the Replacements, even when they were faking it being a punk band just to get gigs. if it weren't for him, the influence would be missing on the Goo Goo Dolls and Green Day's songwriting'

My 16 year old daughter and I play Green Day and Offspring together (she plays drums and I play guitar). These bands are bridging genrations, which make me happy, and old.

@paulmcgrath6118

10 ай бұрын

Brilliant

86 is one of my Green Day favourites. Cool that 20 something years later I know what it means. Now that i know, those lyrics hit harder though

Driving home from getting my nipple pierced in Venice Beach in April 1994, Longview was playing on KROQ, and I can’t not think about that whenever I hear the song. Might also have something to do with that piercing getting ripped out that summer when I got too close to the net on a beach volleyball spike. 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 My old buddy, Nick, aka DJ Haus, worked/works in A&R at WB during that time period. He used to send me giant envelops filled with CDs, including all of Green Day’s. He tells a great story about seeing the first 30 seconds of a Disturbed show at The Troubadour, before they were signed, where the singer got wheeled out onto stage strapped to an old wooden electric chair, started singing, and blood ran down his forehead…and his boss, your friend, said “Sign them,” and walked out. Lots of great partying in LA in those days.

Nice work. Let us not forget The Ramones! Also, footnotes for The Last, The Descendents, Sleater Kinney, Anti-Flag and countless others.

@davidellis5141

11 ай бұрын

Lots of Nolte in The Last ! LA Explosion 💥

@mojorider8455

11 ай бұрын

i like Sleater Kinney---I really liked Janet Weiss' drumming

In India, a lot of people (who listen to Western music anyway) think punk rock started in the 90s and 2000s due to Green Day, Sum 41, Avril Lavigne and Blink 182. Punk simply wasn't much of a global force till then but when those bands got big, it seemed totally fresh to us. It's partially what inspired me to become a musician. Like blues, it's not just music, but a mentality and even a personality trait that can't be taught.

Two songs got me hooked on pop-punk. The first was when “Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)” hit the UK charts and radio. Like many teenagers in the late-nineties I had been weaned on a heavy diet of Oasis, but hearing Offspring on the radio opened a whole new world. A year or so later, a friend played me “San Dimas High School Football Rules” by the Ataris, and I dived in head first. All of the these bands have brilliant, catchy songs with fab melodies. I don’t really care what you call it. You never need to graduate away from great songs.

The first May Spender video I saw was you, Mary, at the NAMM show in your leather jacket. A bit o' punkiness certainly suits you😍 Hoping to recieve my SuperSexyHeartbreak CD soon!!

I started to watch Mary for her music, subscribed for more of that, but I really enjoy these music history videos too!

I'm mixed race south african. And I'm one of a hand full that attended a white school. And there's where I was introduced to punk rock. That was late 90s early 2000s. To this day I am the one person in my home town to ever know anything about punk rock. It's rare in Africa to discover punk rock. But I'm great full to know of its history and origins. God bless you for your video

I'm much too old to have been into this scene BUT I've appreciated much excellence in this genre. Another perfect rockumentary educational video. Thanks Mary

Mary is becoming quite a capable docu-commentarian. That's a Good thing.

Somewhere out there Columbia House is still looking for payment. 🤣

Excellent ! Thank you !

I dig these documentaries. Keep it up.

Hello Mary, Thanks For These Videos

Nice to see this right after going to CyFest. More punk content pls 😊

Bands like Green Day and Sum 41 are the reason why I love and play music today. I do feel that current pop punk has drifted a bit too far into the "pop" aspect of the sub-genre, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. It's just not really for me anymore (with newer bands, anyways). I still love punk all around, though! \,,/ Also, that quote from Dave is so incredibly on point. We have a similar gatekeeping mentality issue in metal too.

Watching Mary talk about punk is a charming experience

@jeremyz6911

11 ай бұрын

simpin' ain't easy

i lived a couple of blocks from gilman st in the mid-late 80's. that place was a hell of a lot of fun!!!

@dennisdeets970

11 ай бұрын

oh ya, monday night live at the I-Beam in SF was pretty awesome then too.

You’re great at these 👏👏👏🥂

Nice!!! Thanks!

Excellent history presentation, thanks! It’s great to see KROQ and Rodney Bingenheimer recognized for their impact. Rodney on the ROQ was the best new music source.

great history, thanks for content!

This was a cool video. Thanks.

Punk also indirectly birthed the stoner scene, bands like Kyuss and Fu Manchu took their initial inspiration from bands like Black Flag and The Dead Kennedys only later adding elements of 70's hard rock to the mix.

Very good video! I was in high school when Dookie came out, it helped me in high school.

Interesting timing. Ive been soaking myself in green day for t last 4 months. Absolute legends. 🍻

57 years old and I still haven't graduated to 'proper' music. A lovely summary of an era of punk I'm less familiar with.

@AdrianBlair-oo1qd

11 ай бұрын

Define Proper music

this is great. as a dude from the uk that played in a ska/punk/hc band from 98-05, to play gilman in 2007 on tour with my old hc/metal band frightener was absolutely life changing. I was more aware of that venue's legacy than 90% of the band i was in. I was in punk rock heaven until the venue got drive by-bear maced by a disgruntled local 🤣

@SamThredder

11 ай бұрын

plus my second gig ever was green day at brixton academy in 1995. the whole gig is here on youtube. i cant watch it without crying my eyes out with joy hahaa

I am old enough to remember bands like the Sex Pistols as part of my teenage experience. I find it almost amusing that they were managed and to a degree created by Malcolm McLaren and if you type his name into Google he shows up with the description "impresario" which is about as un-punk as it is possible to get. And then people accuse bands of selling out.... I turned 13 just ten days before Never Mind the Bo***cks came out. At that point the idea of a punk band releasing something like American Idiot would have been unthinkable. Concept albums were for Pink Floyd and the story is that John Lydon was recruited into the Sex Pistols because he was wearing a t-shirt with the words "I hate Pink Floyd" on it. When American Idiot came out I thought it would be one of those albums that stands as a milestone in music. To me it was punk became when it grew up and realised that just being angry about everything wasn't enough. It is a truly great album by a truly great band.

Never thought I'd see a video where you ever mention NoFX! Cheers!

Mary, our David Attenborough of music history.

I loved music when I was young; now, at age 67, I need some history and understanding of how music had evolved over the last 40-plus years when I took a proper job until recently retiring. No one is more inspiring than Mary, as a great musician, a beautiful woman, and an excellent storyteller. I've missed out on a lot since my legal career ran me ragged and my marriage ended in disaster. Nothing was left of me, burned out in my profession and wife and children finding only contempt and disdain for me; I'm only grateful to play the guitar again before I die of heartache and a wasted life. Bobby

@TennSeven

11 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear about all of the crappy stuff that's been going on in your life. If you're into more "musical history" content like this, I recommend checking out various videos by Rick Beato in which he talks about the evolution of music and certain musical genres (not all of his videos are on this topic, however).

@howardowens721

11 ай бұрын

Dude, forget the past and the things you regret. I’m in my 60s, too. A long list of regrets and sadness with a dead wife. But I play my guitar, immerse myself in music, and concentrate on making it another 30 years and seeing where this musical journey can take me. At this stage in my life, music is all I really care about and it is what sustains me. That and a lovely girlfriend.

@barrydlive4602

11 ай бұрын

Chin up Bobjoy, grind some power chords, spit & snarl a few choice words, about the work and 'family' that held you in place (f^^^ them) . And then when your fingers hurt a bit, the sweat from your brow stings a tear from your eye, scream I AM ALIIIIIVE !!!!! sometime before you aren't...please.

The Offspring and Green Day were among the first bands I listened to and obsessed over, and were my faves for a while. I discovered bands like AFI, Bad Religion, Millencolin, Beatsteaks, 1208 (whom I still love), Deviates and Pulley through Punk-o-Rama compilations. Dead Kennedys, The Damned and Sonic Boom Six took my through later sixth form and early uni. Around then, I'd discover Iggy and the Stooges, and some older British punk bands through the soundtrack to This Is England. And they all regularly became part of my listening cycle. Then as I started to branch out to other genres, I'd listen to punk rock/pop punk less and less and eventually go through a phase where I slated my old taste in music (because of course I did). Fifteen years on, I wouldn't say my music taste "improved", just change very drastically over the years. But I still periodically revisit these bands.

Interesting video, I lived those early 80's punk/hardcore days. You're right, our band made zero money and we were lucky if we got to eat at taco hell after a show. We played more hardcore/metal before that was even a thing and played with, Black Flag, Dead Kennedy's and many other great bands at the time. Even after mostly moving into more industrial stuff and things like Skinny Puppy, I still ended up liking Green Day, The Offspring and Nirvana when they came around.

Mary, I respect you immensely, all your covers, and in general, as a woman, you are just an ideal for me. Success in your work, I really like you.

I'm 50 and these are the bands I graduated to as an adult. Thanks for putting this whirlwind run down memory lane together.

One of the best, short, generalized histories of punk rock I've ever heard.

"Former boy band lead singer John Lydon, criticises Green Day"

Interesting. Grew up and lived my entire life in the Bay Area. Never really got into the punk scene. I was playing classical, jazz, rock, country, and Celtic during the 80's and 90's. When I was your age when you discovered punk it was the 70's for me and Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Steve Miller, Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Yes, ELP, Hendrix etc. for me. Thanks for the overview. It was enlightening.

It's like the Dickies used to say, "We knew Rancid back when they were still called The Clash." Okay, that had nothing to do with anything, but what did you expect from a Dickies quote???

Mary, you're the best and I love your videos. Plus you look and sound amazing.

Another fab documentary 🎸😃

Thanks Mary this was so good. You 🤘🏼

I was a senior in high school when dookie came out. A typical morning would find everyone hanging out in the parking lot in the mornings before class with our car doors open and radios blasting. You could hear everything: Hootie, Dave Matthews, Zeppelin, The Allman Brothers, and that one girl down at the end who had Indigo Girls blasting. And then me and a buddy went skiing one weekend and he popped a disc in his player and said simply "check this out", and suddenly all that money that he had convinced his parents to spend on his car's stereo system was earning its keep. Soon, everyone I knew was sporting their own copy in their sunvisor CD caddy. That Green Day album was a huge change from everythng us most of us had heard before. A couple of us who were more into the history of music even at that point knew who the Ramones and The Sex Pistols were, though we weren't listening to it per se, but it was Green Day who resonated with us. Those hs years were permeated with mixtapes full of grunge, the whole Seattle movement, and a healthy foundation of Classic Rock, but dookie was part of the trifecta of albums, along with Under the Table and Dreaming and Cracked Rear View, that I would say defined senior year of high school.

Green Day was my number-one band through my mid-teens half my life ago. Started at American idiot and basically worked backwards from there until I was familiar with every album to date. Somehow by widening my scope I slipped away from GD through the '10s, but maybe now's the time for a full-on nostalgia trip...

A big topic. Certainly Green Day's punk to pop explosion was second gen, following the first gen in the late '70s/early '80s "explosions" of punk to other genres, e.g. The GoGo's (punk > pop), Blondie (punk > new wave) and Patti Smith (punk > . . . political punk-pop?), all worthy of attention, should you so choose.

Rise Against never stopped cranking out great albums, still active to this day, good songs with good lyrics.

Bad Religion are absolute legends. Kudos to Brett Gurewitz for keeping Epitaph an independent label. 🎸🤘

@mplsatty

10 ай бұрын

Too bad the Circle Jerks don't get the same appreciation...

The Ramones also inspired a certain guy called Bono… he seems to have done well with that.

Excellent work. Green Day just took it to a new level. It is its own thing. Not punk. Better.

Punk made me want to play guitar. Eventually, I moved on to other instruments and music, but this music was my childhood. I still remember house parties every weekend during my first years of high school and punk, grunge and such were what everyone was listening to.

Back in the 70's I saw the Clash , The Damned and the Pistols plus many other British Punk bands live. That was when Punk was "dangerous" and the USA was ignoring it. I have seen Green Day and a number of so called "Punk" bands and there is no comparison . Punk was a short lived 1976-1978 thing. Everything after is just an imitation. John Lydon is spot on.

WHEW! When I saw the title I was afraid you'd shaved one side of your head! I suppose I am a proud "American Idiot" and love Green Day... Fabulous video Mary - as always!

My first band covered Dookie, Teenage Politics, Out come the wolves, What's the story, and a bunch of other albums track-for-track. They would tape them for me because I wasn't allowed to have them, haha. Play the next song! 1,2,3,4

Punks not dead

@christianschmidt2915

11 ай бұрын

It just needs help down the stairs.

@Loki-sk7bi

11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah it’s so dead. It’s super pro establishment now. Lol

@iloveaviation-burgerclub-a8145

9 ай бұрын

"When did p6nk rock become so safe?" Since Greenday, Offspring, ...

Excellent history. Brought back memories of the mid-70s early 80s music scene. In the midst of the Disco era, Punk had such a refreshingly gnarly sound. Fast forward to 2001, I took my 15-year-old daughter to a punk concert. The warm-up band played broken instruments: the bass had one string, the guitar had three strings, and the drum set only had one or two intact drum heads. I thought the band was going to be clever tuning the guitar like a balalaika or other 3-stringed instruments, and there are lots of good one-string folk bass players around. My hopes were dashed as the band was horrible. I might have found them cool and innovative in the 70s, but my 70s punk taste had changed. The headlining group was excellent.

What makes the conversation difficult is that punk is an identity, not just a musical genre, and I don't think many are interested in pinning down what "punk" as a standalone genre really is. Musically speaking, I never thought of Green Day as a punk band, but a fantastic rock band with punk influences. But unlike Lydon, I don't think they're phony. They're just doing their thing.

That Dave Baksh quote nailed it about the rules! I understood the punk ethos to be do it because you love it, dress as you see fit, and make the music YOU want, not what the label wants! By those ethos, to me bands like Rush and Pink Floyd tend to be as punk if not more so than many self-described punk bands who enforce such stupid rules that it's as bad as any corporate record label ever(looking at you Johnny Rotten!) As someone who was born in 1974, I was too young to catch and understand that first wave of punk, so I grew up on a steady diet of 80s top 40 radio which then comprised of nearly every genre from R&B/Soul, to New Wave, dance pop, pure pop, rock, hard rock and classic rock. When I discovered the Ramones, Sex Pistols, The Clash and Bad Religion, I was primed for the 90s punk revival and loved every minute of it! I make no apologies for my love of various rock/pop genres and the most UN-punk thing is too shame anyone for loving the music they love!

@Algo1

11 ай бұрын

Same for Rock, some Pop and Hip Hop artists rock as hard if not harder than Rock bands.

If you talk about Proto Punk, before mentioning The Beatles, The Kinks and so on, you have to mention the Peruvian band Los Saicos with their 1965 song Demolición! A year after the Kinks wildest records, but the Punk attitude is there. While the English gentlemen were writing love songs, Los Saicos were calling for destruction!

I must say, as a big eyeliner fan, I love that thumbnail lol