Miller understoood Batman for two stories...and then completely misundertood him in his following two.

@George_M_

Ай бұрын

The problem is it was the same thread as in his good stories, but he kept pulling on it and it unraveled. "Logical" progression became increasingly insane.

@grantwinter-helms5410

17 күн бұрын

@@George_M_ MIller's Batman works when Bruce is a beginner starting off who hasn't learned to chill out and that vengeance isn't everything, and it also works when Bruce is old and jaded, as the world has fallen apart around him. It doesn't really work well for a Batman in his prime who has sidekicks and other superheroes he regularly works with.

@KevinM491

6 күн бұрын

TDS is a hell of a drug.

I feel like there’s a lot of revisionist history being told here. The sales of Batman for example. Saying all those reasons for lower sales leaves out a very important event, the entire industry had imploded with the speculator collapse which caused an industry wide decline in sales. Also no it wasn’t the last time we saw that version of mister freeze, both continuity wise and publication wise. He would show up in Batman beyond and story wise the movie takes place before the BTAS last season.

@juniorjames7076

3 ай бұрын

The '90s were a bittersweet time for me. Two art forms were collapsing for me by the late 1990s- Hip Hop music and DC/Marvel comics! The 1st one is discussion for another day, but for the 2nd, by the mid '90s I had more or less given up on the "big two" companies and was exclusively buying independently published and foreign graphic novels. Marvel and DC was only for "browsing" to see how far they had fallen. But Batman was my biggest disappoint since it was my number one book back in the BRONZE AGE '80s, but he had become unrecognizable to me by 1998. I was tempted to buy issues of the Long Halloween when it was coming out, but the toxic chaos of DC during this time (cancelling Milestone Comics, and cancelling Dwayne McDuffie's Milestone/JLA crossover for petty reasons) convinced me to leave DC and Marvel for good and instead support small independent publishers, and explore foreign graphic novels from France, Germany, Asia, Iran, Africa, and Latin America.

@vitorafmonteiro

3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say "revisionist", but I do think if we take the Batman media on their own out of the industry context we may miss some details. I don't think this harms the video that much only because they do talk the variant covers multiplication, Image and its effects and a little bit of the competition, still it could delve on the speculation boom by name and the issues of most companies then, but I'd say the general thesis is right, but the context is a big asterisk.

@fishin4bass2002

3 ай бұрын

@@vitorafmonteiro I like this KZreadr so I went easy but I felt like there were a lot of misleading things said. I’ve read every Batman and detective comics book from 1990- rebirth and plenty of other series. Batman was good in the 90s. If sales were down it was because the entire industry sales were down, not because it was bad. Knightfall is one of the all time greats. Knightsend and knightquest weren’t that good but so many other stories like Prodigal, Trioka, contagion, legacy, cataclysm, aftershock, the moench/ jones run, Alan grants shadow of the bat, chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan’s run on detective, so many good Batman stories at that time.

@eddy5097

3 ай бұрын

Industry was in decline in the 90s marvel went bankrupt! Those of us that supported comics in the 90s...we are the REAL ONES and we should be loved for helping this industry stay alive with our passion time and money Also we need to keep these revisionists from changing history

@fishin4bass2002

3 ай бұрын

@@eddy5097 yes we do. I didn’t realize how bad it was until I started listening to the Rob Liefeld podcast. He said one reason why he started the podcast was because so many so called comic “experts” online push so many lies about what happened and also they weren’t even there so how would they know the truth? You can say a lot about Rob but one thing you can’t deny is his passion for comics, his experience and the fact he was in the middle of a lot of these rumors. KZreadrs will use sources like wizard magazine or even other KZreadrs . Wizard magazine was known to push a lot of propaganda for whoever the liked at the time. Some of your top comic KZreadrs like comics drake, comic tropes and others will push so many lies that you have to even wonder if they researched the topic.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Chuck Dixon for my comics podcast some years ago. It was a real treat to hear all the stories from DC Comics during this era - the pressure to top Death of Superman, Denny O'Neil's preference towards certain characters, all of that. Chuck Dixon is a true legend and one of my favourite writers.

@Unquestionable

Ай бұрын

Chuck Dixon has always been one of those writers that always got overlooked by my friend group but when we would talk about consistently great books it was always his name that came up as an example. Very much one of the all time greats for keeping the spirit of comics alive.

@alttarnovy

Ай бұрын

@@Unquestionable I told him that my liking of Nightwing came from his run and I hold that as the standard. Kyle Higgins' run was great but Chuck Dixon was the bar to hit for me.

Being 10 in 1989 was a good age. Hooked on Batman ever since and the movie ruled my world.

As born in later half of the 80's, the 90's offered arguanly the best Batman related content ever! The comics was pure awesome, the legendary Batman TAS that set new grounds of excellence, the toys and video games etc-etc just great. Beside the major cheesy Batman Forever and Batman & Robin movies, it was great! Today it is not even a shadow of all that greatness.

@Gill_Man

3 ай бұрын

​@LeonsCoolJacket the movies sucked but I wouldn't say the media was bad when we had BTAS along with the comic runs during the 90s.

@WarioSaysSo

3 ай бұрын

@@LeonsCoolJacket Well I can't say I liked the Suicide Squad treatment. But more is the awfull comics now. I have not enjoyed any Batman comics since before 2010 because they are either poorly written or poorly drawn, and in recent years Woke BS I could not care more. And I was not a big fan of the recent movie either The Batman as a fetish dressed RFiddler did not fit IMO his original character, or the race swapping of James Gordon or Robert Pattison as Batman.

@juniorjames7076

3 ай бұрын

The '90s! It was a bittersweet time for me. Two art forms were collapsing for me by the late 1990s- Hip Hop music and DC/Marvel comics! The 1st one is discussion for another day, but for the 2nd, by the late '90s I had more or less given up on the "big two" companies and was exclusively buying independently published and foreign graphic novels. Marvel and DC was only for "browsing" to see how far they had fallen. But Batman was my biggest disappoint since it was my number one book back in the BRONZE AGE '80s, but he had become unrecognizable to me by 1998. I was tempted to buy issues of the Long Halloween when it was coming out, but the toxic chaos of DC during this time (cancelling Milestone Comics, and cancelling Dwayne McDuffie's Milestone/JLA crossover for petty reasons) convinced me to leave DC and Marvel for good and instead support small independent publishers, and explore foreign graphic novels from France, Germany, Asia, Iran, Africa, and Latin America.

@WarioSaysSo

3 ай бұрын

@@juniorjames7076 Interesting. I could have easily understood with todays content, but the 90's content? There was some of its best art style ever (!)

@mastersith3523

3 ай бұрын

I kinda liked Batman Forever as a callback to the silver age of the character but it definitely wasn’t what the character needed at the time.

Being a Batman fan was tough in the mid to late 1990's. I was a kid then and I loved all the movies including Batman & Robin.

@Supercohboy

3 ай бұрын

Minus the bat-nipples, the movie is a camp-classic imo. It's a bad movie for sure, but it does so much so badly at AAA-budget levels that it becomes surprisingly entertaining. It's like watching a luxury trainwreck full of hammy acting and some terribly awkward scenes, all wrapped up in a Batman theme. You learn a lot about what NOT to do in film by watching that movie too, which has some value in itself albeit in a roundabout and silly way. I wish the haters would just Cheel Owt already, it's been almost 20 years /s

@AlanIanIngram

2 ай бұрын

Not really, because the new adventures was banging, plus no man's land was about to start.

@isaiahyinko7182

2 ай бұрын

​@Supercohboy I wasn't around when batman and robin came out. I was born two years later 1999 and batman is my favorite superhero and my decade is the 2000s.

@Drums_of_Liberation

13 күн бұрын

​@@Supercohboywe will never chill out. Regardless of what happened behind the scenes with Schumacher and the WB that movie killed Batman in cinema for nearly a decade and ruined the reputation of my boy Bane for the normies.

🦇You have Arnold Schwarzenegger in your Batman film and you don't cast him as a comic accurate version of Bane. I never understood that 🦇

@AlanIanIngram

3 ай бұрын

I believe he was having a heart transplant at the time due to steroid use...Irony

@hyperion3145

2 ай бұрын

Even more accurate! ​@@AlanIanIngram

@amadeusagripino6862

Ай бұрын

Arnold would be a better KGBeast

Man, the 80s and 90s sounded like a helluva time to be alive. Makes me jealous, honestly.

@juniorjames7076

3 ай бұрын

The '80s were awesome, the '90s sucked!

@louurich9087

3 ай бұрын

@@juniorjames7076 they both sucked. Comics may have been better in the 80s, but overall both decades sucked.

@banditkeef3864

3 ай бұрын

@@louurich9087I think he means overall, and I kinda agree the 80s seemed like a more interesting decade to live through then the 90s.

@juniorjames7076

3 ай бұрын

​@@louurich9087I really believe that the 1980s doesn't get enough credit for being a Golden Age in almost every artform: Music- the rise of Punk, Hip Hop, Heavy Metal, and Pop; Rise of VHS Horror, Action, Independent films, Music Videos still developing; Dance, etc. We really tske the 80s for granted. It was truly a Golden Age in performance arts, aside from the horrible socio-economics.

@toxicprophetking

3 ай бұрын

It really was a span of time that a lot of good stuff came out of. I mean, basically almost everything you see on any screen, has been some kind of sequel, reboot, retelling, or rehashed reinterpretation of an intellectual property (IP), of that time. Obviously not everything, and some IP's, such as Batman, are older then the '80s & '90s... But it was at that time they get taken seriously, or gain a proper place in pop culture...

No man’s land was the first Batman graphic novel I ever read when I was 9, so I’ll always love it.

Ah, 90's Batman and Looney Tunes Joker, my absolute delight !

Batman 89 was the movie that indirectly got me into comics. I did not see the movie until later but it meant my favourite book shop had a display of Batman items including my first ever comic purchases - the Dark Knight Returns and then the Killing Joke. This lead to me finding my first comics issues Detective Comics: The Mud Pack and Batman: Year Three, which in turn lead to my first visit to specialist comic book shop and my first purchase from it, newly being put on the shelf Legends of the Dark Knight #1. It was Miller and Moore that got my into Batman comics, it was Grant and Breyfogyle that kept me dedicated to buying everything for the next 10+ years, and No Mans Land that burned me out with too much and while I kept getting every issue of Batman and Detective for almost the next 20 years until my local comic shop closed, I stopped getting most of the other bat related titles, just an occasional special or graphic novel.

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

I love hearing stories like this. Thank you for sharing!

I was in the middle of the “Bat-conflict” growing up in the 80’s with the 1960’s reruns and being introduced to Frank Miller’s influence on Burton’s version of the dark knight!

You seriously make the best Batman documentaries on YT fr! I’m very interested hearing your thoughts on Batman in the 2000s, particularly Nolan & The Batman 04 animated series (my childhood fav), that area wasn’t as big as the others but the character certainly got a much needed huge glow up.

@JayJ4y95

3 ай бұрын

Yes, Salazar should definitely make videos on the New Gotham Era with Brubaker and Rucka up to Infinite Crisis maybe even Final Crisis and Batman Reborn

@ashtonndlovu9470

3 ай бұрын

U got my respect for having my favourite animated Batman as a profile pic

I've been re-reading the 80s-90s Batman titles and watching your videos along with that has really elevated the experience. Having the historic and cultural references and influences on the stories makes the stories so much more enjoyable. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite content creators, it's clear how much time, effort and research you put into your videos. I wish you the best, you deserve a much larger following and I hope you get the credit you deserve this year!!

I was taught by Tom Lyle back while I was in art school. He had mentioned his time working on the Robin series with Chuck Dixon along with the creation of Stephanie Brown aka Spoiler. While the move to marvel made sense, he would ultimately be part of the messy Spiderman clone saga. RIP Tom Lyle.

Salazar you magnificent bastard, you’ve done it again. Not only the narrative on this video is very detailed and straight forward, with amazing little editorial facts that I’ve never heard before, but in top of it all you close it with a hopeful an reflective message for the future. Cheers to that my friend!

What a great trip through my teens and 20s. Well done; thank you!

Thank You for all the work you put into these videos. The best Batman themed channel on KZread.

The late 90s truly broke the Bat. Btw, truly this is the best KZread channel about the Batman, my favorite comic book character.

This channel is excellent. Thank you for the incredible effort.

I’d actually say the 90’s was the best decade for Batman, most of his best stories come from this decade

We really Love you too Salazar !!! Great video and God bless you and yours !!!!

You have gotten really good at making these videos. I have been watching for a few years now and this is a Master Level Batman presentation. Please keep them coming.

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for all the years of support!

Hello Salazar, I've been watching your content for a while now! The way you talk about Batman and the knowledge and love that you have for this character is absolutely amazing! The way that you connect all of your points together is truly inspiring! Thank you for making these Batman essay videos and I look forward to continue watching them in the future!

Im so glad this youtube channel is slowly getting bigger. You mean so much to the Batman community! No matter what dont stop making videos!

Awesome, gonna watch this tonight! Great work, SK!

Finally, the 2000s. Thank you so much sal for all the videos from the late 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and etc. We now progress on to a new chapter.

Excellent episode, my brother, thanks you!!

Hello Sal congrats on concluding the 90's chapter of Batman excited for you covering the 00's for Dark Knight

Another excellent video, Mister Knight.

I could watch this guy talking about Batman forever. Really love the way you formatted this video

Love the hard work and passion you put into every video! 🦇

Love your Batman videos , I learn something new every time I watch and rewatch them 🤙🏾

Excellent video as always.

Great video as always❤

Great presentation, Salazar. Very nice edited, too.

Great video! Very entertaining! Learned a lot.

Excellent job. Keep it up. Wanted to see this sooner 😂❤🦇

Amazing video, dude!!!!

This is seriously the best batman channel I've ever come across on KZread. You've just earned a subscriber in me.

Great video. Corporate interests will always dominate, but luckily the creators were able to still tell good stories in spite of that. The 90s are probably my favourite decade for Batman comics.

Very well done documentary my friend! These kind of videos are why I keep my KZread premium subscription lol

Love your videos dude 👍

Excelente video, como siempre!!

*The Long Halloween,* *Knightfall/Knightquest/Knightsend,* *Birth of the Demon,* *Gothic* and *No Man's Land* with runs on the Batman title like Alan Grant/Norman Breyfogle and Doug Monech/Kelly Jones. All good stuff. *The Animated Series* was and still is to me the most defentive version of the character.

Great video bro..

Excellent episode

This video deserves more love

What a great video!

Fantastic video as always bro I’d love a more in-depth look at the Jim Aparo Batman or Batman in the 2000s

Glorious video.

I realized that after spending my hard earned money on The Death and Return of Superman crossover and the Knightfall crossover that DC was only interested in robbing their young fans with long, boring, crappy stories that went nowhere instead of providing them with value. So when the ultimate cash grab No Man's Land came out I quit buying DC Comic completely for years. I came back during the Grant Morrison run then left again right before the massive cash grab failure that was The New 52. I haven't been back since. I read back issues of The Brave and the Bold from the 70s now. Much better! A whole complete story in one ish WOW!

This is great work man!! Extremely in depth information as always!! I'd love to see a complete video on Chuck Dixon. The 90s was pretty much his own universe. He doesn't get enough credit. Dixon has shared pieces of his side of the DC fallout in numerous interviews and podcasts, but I've never heard the complete story

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

I got a lot of information for this video from Dixon's own channel. I put some of his videos in the description in case you want to check them out. And also, thanks for the kinds words!

Amazing video.

I'll take anything from the 90s to anything since New 52

I grew up during all this era but aside from the BTAS wasn't into comics until No Man's Land, with the preview of it in copy of Wizard my mom had bought me by mistake only to kick start my teenage years as a comic junkie. The dark gritty Batman is very much something I love in small doses but overall much prefer things like Morrison's run which embrace not only the long history of the character but also walks that fine line between over the top and down to Earth in equal measure. This video is an excellent deep dive into what was happening with the character during such an insane era.

this was worth the wait🙂

The song transitioning ch. 1 to ch. 2 is amazing

Gracias!

God I love your videos bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

12:41 what double standards? The Killing Joke is a well written story, The Death in the Family is pure schlock.

Excellent! This is a grand finale for your '90s series. Love the effort, research, moral, and bat-love in all your videos. I'm glad Alex Lennen turned me on to your channel. Do you know if there was any more information released on the mysterious puppet villain never premiered?

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

I haven't found any more information about that mysterious character. Only what Kelley Jones has said in interviews. But thanks for writing! I love reading comments like this one :)

@joshuakinney8558

3 ай бұрын

One of us will have to ask if him we come across him at a convention! Above anything, I'd like a name... @@SalazarKnight

Same thing happend to the TMNT franchise after the 1st 90's film.....As bad as it was for the turtles around that time the goofy tone fits slightly better with the turtles than it does with Batman

Kelley Jones's Batman art is how Batman should be portrayed. As a vampire/supernatural being sent to punish evil while he is protecting the weak.

There was nothing “polarizing” about the animated series. It was universally praised.

@MutantsInDisguise

3 ай бұрын

The guy was referring to The New Batman Adventures, which was a different series from the 92 one, like it or not.

@Allen2saint

3 ай бұрын

@@MutantsInDisguise seeing it as an entirely different series is a stretch. There were character redesigns and yes, it was more kid friendly, but it was just a continuation of TAS.

@lightsubterfuge

3 ай бұрын

@@Allen2saint I think he meant to say "the polarizing redesigns/changes in the animated series." I still don't find the redesigns that polarizing. The only one I didn't really like was Joker's redesign.

@obvioushieidude7668

3 ай бұрын

@@Allen2saint The Batman Animated Series from 1992-1995 was universally praised. The New Batman Adventures was not. How is this hard for you to grasp?

@godhimself1128

3 ай бұрын

​@@obvioushieidude7668its the pedantic redditor energy thats holding him back

Thank you for this HONEST masterpiece explaining the Batman of the '90s! It was a bittersweet time for me. Two art forms were collapsing for me by the late 1990s- Hip Hop music and DC/Marvel comics! The 1st one is discussion for another day, but for the 2nd, by the late '90s I had more or less given up on the "big two" companies and was exclusively buying independently published and foreign graphic novels. Marvel and DC was only for "browsing" to see how far they had fallen. But Batman was my biggest disappoint since it was my number one book back in the BRONZE AGE '80s, but he had become unrecognizable to me by 1998. I was tempted to buy issues of the Long Halloween when it was coming out, but the toxic chaos of DC during this time (cancelling Milestone Comics, and cancelling Dwayne McDuffie's Milestone/JLA crossover for petty reasons) convinced me to leave DC and Marvel for good and instead support small independent publishers, and explore foreign graphic novels from France, Germany, Asia, Iran, Africa, and Latin America.

SK the work you present on this channel is outstanding! You are accurate, insightful and a delight to a lifelong Batmaniac like myself. I’m interested to get youre take on the recent dc vault release of the alternate version of death in the family. It felt like this version was made with little intention to ever publish. Even Batman proclaiming he’s alive seemed ridiculous. Anyway keep up the excellence!

Your videos will always remind me why batman is my favourite super hero of all time

This video is a work of art 🎉

This is a phenomenal video, you are up their as one of the greatest youtubers in the comic book genre and this video shows it. This video is a love letter to batman

Salazar Knight back at it and reminding me why this character is my favorite of all time. Definitely a pallete cleanser after his treatment in Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League. I had no idea Tod McFarlane was the one responsible for the current origin of Jason Todd.

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

I may have expressed wrongly there, but Todd was not involved in Jason's new origin. It was writer Max Allan Collins and artist Chris Warner. Apologies for any confusion.

Great video and a nice dive into the 90s comics I've met Alan grant years ago in the village not far from my home town moniaive and one of the driving forces to the moniaive comic festival and the comic guests that came to it. He was a lovely man and loved his shadow of the bat comics.

Happy your batman stories😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 much love

As someone wasnt alive in the 1980s or 90s, it is interesting how the conflict changed by the end of the 1990s decade. Following Batman Begins in 2005 and on, its interesting how the mainstream think Batman is only this "Violent superhero who beats up the mentality ill and he's took dark with mommy and daddy issues! Why can't he more light hearted" when in the actual comics these days flesh him out as a hopeful and engaging character whos just as human as me and you. But the mainstream only know Batman as the former

@INFERNO95

3 ай бұрын

Because they only think batman works as a dark and edgy hero.

The Grant/Breyfogle was the height of my collecting. It was a great run!

Even the design of Az-Bat is a knock on Liefeld with the tiny weird feet

Yeah, the '90s were the dark ages of comics. Hell, it was the same era that bankrupted Marvel. The only way to save the company is to make movies and create the Ultimate comics. And which superhero saved their skins in each category ?... Spiderman !

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

There's a reason he's my favorite Marvel hero!

@aidanhever3369

3 ай бұрын

@@SalazarKnight Mine too.

Great vid love the story you wove. I’d love some deep dives into some of the creative teams one day you would do such a great job. If I could turn back time I would tell them to leave legends of the dark knight and maybe even shadow of the bat out of the cross overs but what can you do, cross overs were the bane of the 90s.

it's so cool to see a video that honor's batman's legacy shortly after suicide squad kill the justice league's disrespect to batman.

Excellent video Salazar Knight as usual BTW you should some time do a video of Micheal Uslan because he has just a big of a part to play in the Batman franchise as Denny O'Neil and Frank Miller. Any I'm very excited to see more of your great work. Until then God speed my friend.😉👍🦇

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

Michael Uslan is a legend! He even has published two books that I really enjoyed, but I don't think I could make an interesting video about him. Still, the man is a legend in his own right and I certainly appreciate all he's done for Batman. Anyways, thanks so much for writing!

@riverehrstien3712

3 ай бұрын

@@SalazarKnight Your welcome as always Bro.👍 BTW can I call you sal?

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@riverehrstien3712

3 ай бұрын

@@SalazarKnight Thanks man see you soon.

Denny O'Neil and Neil Adams had already started the change towards a grittier Batman in the early 1970s with Daughter of the Demon and he'd gotten a bit darker as the years had gone on. In general, pre-Dark Knight Returns Batman was less emotionally traumatized and socially stunted then current incarnations. I don't think that's a bad thing.

Excellent analysis. Clear example of how constant deconstruction (then becoming standard) skew a character. Biggest issue readers and writers taking wrong lessons from these comics, then spilling slowly over Main Earth Batman doing irreversible damage to his character. From Bruce's over controlling nature while also being emotional mute which was present in 80s but has been turned up to 11. Sabtagoing relationships, constantly paranoid, distrustful, constantly brooding and grumpy needs are not nesscarily bad. Issue is that Rather that writers his as arc to grow beyond that, its actually glorified and seen as a good thing. Constant blows with Superman in order to prop Batman up essentially losing trust and friendship they once had before Frank Miller story. While dumbing downing Superman in order for the fight happen. Essenttial eroding all family and friend aspect Batman from Golden and Silver Age.

I have a lot of nostalgia for the 1990- 1996 period. I wore out the VHS of the first Burton movie and got a few comics here and there through 1992 but Knightfall was where I really started following all the titles faithfully leading up to the climax of Bane breaking Batman's back. Heavy stuff for a kid my age back then. I think I had the entire Prodigal run but at that time I was starting to seek out older books I had missed and stopped keeping up with the new stuff

Salazar, i have a few questions: First of all, can you make a video about batman: war on crime? It's absolutely phenomenal. Second of all, do you have brothers or sisters? And if you do, do they like batman too, or do they think you're a nerd that needs to go outside? Third of all, are you british or american? Your accent is confusing to me. Tho maybe it's because english is my second language. Final question: will you ever do a face reveal? Thanks and i hope your channel will crack a mill soon. And considering the fact that you're almost at 20k, this future looks more and more likely.

@SalazarKnight

3 ай бұрын

1. War on Crime is a great story, but not really a great video imo. 2. My younger brother is not into comics at all and he doesn't really care what I do. 3-4. I like to keep my nationality/face a mystery, for now. Thank you for writing and please, call me Sal :)

@DARTH_COMiX

3 ай бұрын

Ok, sal. Got any ideas for on what to start on in the 2000s of batman comics? I suggest you start with something big to grab people's attention.

Will be funny as hell when you cover the "crazy steve" batman comics lol

Shitting on the cult is not something I expected

I never read the comics for No Man's Land, but I listened to the Graphic Audio version and I really loved it! I know they added some new stuff and most likely streamlined the plot, but I thought No Man's Land was really cool and plays with Batman's rogue's gallery super well.

I find completely stupid that DC fired they're best writers. And seeing comics today, they didn't learn from their mistakes

Wasn’t Nightwing’s black and blue suit in the comics inspired from the movie Robin costume with black and red?

Please make a video on the 2000s of Batman

Awesome video!! But I think BTAS actually did adapt The Dark Knight Returns in one episode if im not mistaken

@MutantsInDisguise

3 ай бұрын

The original cartoon, from 92 to 95? You mean the flawed sequel to that cartoon that everyone ignorantly considers its 'third' season.

@oofyeet5935

3 ай бұрын

That was the New Batman Adventures

@michaellabonte6390

3 ай бұрын

​@@MutantsInDisguise os the 4th sesson. The og btas had 3 sessons and tnba has 1

@MutantsInDisguise

3 ай бұрын

@@michaellabonte6390 nope. Both the original cartoon and the sequel had 2 seasons each.

@michaellabonte6390

3 ай бұрын

@MutantsInDisguise check your facts my friend. I'm literally looking at the box sets rn

I have 1 issue left of my Knightfall set with all tie ins and crossovers I love the story and artstyle

I was born in 95 and I remember watching the live action Batman movies when I was younger 🥲

The Drak Frank Returns just got me so hard and i had to pause for breathing.

I disagree with the whole double standards comparison between Jason and Batgirl situation. Death in the family had, as you say, a convoluted setup and clear mimicking of Miller's ideas just to create this shock value/hype generating event, with no real point beyond that. Meanwhile, having Barbara crippled was done explicitly in story to prove a point, for Joker to demonstrate his deranged ideology that anyone can be as evil or crazy as him with one bad day. It's actually the main story why Joker in popular media still says that and those in the general public often take that idea at face value and run with it, either for memes or seriously. And the point of the Killing Joke is that the Joker is wrong. Jim Gordon, despite the torture, humiliation, and life altering trauma that was inflicted upon him and his family did not break, he still wanted to uphold his morals to take the Joker in. That single fact is what makes the Killing Joke such a complex, compelling narrative. Anyone parroting the "one bad day" argument misses the very lesson that story was trying to tell and it also makes it vastly more important and poignant a tale than Death in the Family. So no, there is no double standard in this instance. One is shock value the other is a cornerstone story that expands every character involved. This isn't to discount the rest of your video which clearly took time and effort, but I genuinely disagree with that comparison and that takeaway.

Man batman has definitely been through so much in the comics especially in the 90s.

Exactly. Greed did it, not Joel Schumacher. He has great films in his resume. He only did what the producers ask of him.

Greed, yeah those multi issue multi volume story arcs. Making Batman a guest star in his own comics, to build up less popular supporting characters. eg Huntress, Azrael, Hardback Bock.

Will there be a video going over the stories after No mans Land and the state The batman comics were in the time of the early 2000s? I really feel like Dennis O'Neil's retirement was a big impact to the comics that happened the following years because they all did their own thing like any other writer of course but to the extent that it affected writers coming into do the job

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Already working on it!

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Frank Miller did make another batman comic, it's Called All star batman and Robin and it's wildly considered god awful.