How GOOD were Togetic & Togekiss ACTUALLY? - History of Togetic & Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon

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TOGETIC & TOGEKISS! The Happiness Pokemon! These pokemon may siphon pure joy from people but how good were they actually in competitive battling? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Togetic and Togekiss in Competitive Pokemon!
MISSING PLACEMENT: • Northern England Regio... Jamie Boyt Placed 1st at the Northern England Regionals with Togetic!
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming5 жыл бұрын

    Whoops! We missed a major placement! Jamie Boyt placed 1st with Togetic in the Northern England Regionals! Major Apologies kzread.info/dash/bejne/mamtr7CNgdW3YdI.html

  • @shawnli4746

    @shawnli4746

    5 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss was 3rd & 6th in VGC 2010 according to this i.redd.it/xhr08g2ka4sz.jpg

  • @jaylogik4020

    @jaylogik4020

    5 жыл бұрын

    No hyper beam mention. The damage was ridiculous with choice specs (timid nature) or choice scarf (modest nature) which made him a nice revenge killer

  • @stevejobs8820

    @stevejobs8820

    5 жыл бұрын

    False Swipe Gaming do slaking

  • @dru4111

    @dru4111

    4 жыл бұрын

    This video made me Flinch.

  • @jaylogik4020

    @jaylogik4020

    4 жыл бұрын

    ARTEM DORDZHIEV uh... no

  • @deltawarrior2323
    @deltawarrior23233 жыл бұрын

    focus blast with 70% accuracy: *misses literally the entire time* Iron head/air slash plus serene grace buff making it have a 60% to flinch: *flinches you until you fall over and die*

  • @pro2gamer
    @pro2gamer6 жыл бұрын

    Togepy sucks the joy of people. *_WELL THAT EXPLAINS THE PARAFLINCH_*

  • @mykittystinksbad2

    @mykittystinksbad2

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fulken You get more and more enraged as you get paraflinched everyturn thus you slowing losing joy...that's why Togekiss is always smiling...

  • @Breakaway-ic5gj

    @Breakaway-ic5gj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why are all of these cute fairies always the most annoying ones ?

  • @axlr8deathpls294

    @axlr8deathpls294

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Breakaway-ic5gj Dont talk about my guildmaster wigglytuff that way

  • @togepipi

    @togepipi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Breakaway-ic5gj Togepi (Translation) Hey!

  • @zetagammafigma8212
    @zetagammafigma82126 жыл бұрын

    "Well, Togetic f**king sucked." I laughed out loud.

  • @guymathias3697

    @guymathias3697

    5 жыл бұрын

    I HATE YOU!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @metest465

    @metest465

    5 жыл бұрын

    Guy Mathias chill pill

  • @guymathias3697

    @guymathias3697

    5 жыл бұрын

    I AM NO HATER OF TOGETIC!

  • @guymathias2604

    @guymathias2604

    5 жыл бұрын

    guys, calm down. i think there is a good solution why Togetic was bad. I love Togetic!

  • @lastofall3555

    @lastofall3555

    4 жыл бұрын

    Guy Mathias bruh no one asked.

  • @andrewcather8949
    @andrewcather89496 жыл бұрын

    One thing: there was a unique Togepi that you could get in XD Gale of Darkness that was guaranteed to have Tri-Attack. When combined with a high SA Togekiss + Serene Grace and Silk Scarf, it's a pretty nasty combo even without the original STAB it got from the normal typing. Very rare nowadays, but totally legit.

  • @joshurlay

    @joshurlay

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine it would have been something special for Gen 3 but Gen 4 would have made it awesome

  • @Dave_Chrome

    @Dave_Chrome

    4 жыл бұрын

    I remember that! But I think I traded it for Elekid in the same game haha

  • @grahamready1065

    @grahamready1065

    4 жыл бұрын

    As an update to this, I just found out that Togepi and Togetic can actually learn Tri Attack as a TR in Sword and Shield. It seems to be one of the standard awards for Max Raid Battles in a lot of places within the Wild Area, so this combo is significantly easier to get your hands on now, even if it doesn't have stab anymore.

  • @Jose0421

    @Jose0421

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Galaspark Lol.. Might be some type of glitch right there.

  • @microwave8931

    @microwave8931

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now, togepi/togetic/togekiss can learn Tri-Attack. Plus serene grace and silk scarf...

  • @FrankencubeGaming
    @FrankencubeGaming6 жыл бұрын

    I barely even play competitively but for some reason I still love tuning into this show every week. It’s just super chill to listen to.

  • @jaschabull2365

    @jaschabull2365

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've never played competitively, but this is pretty interesting to hear.

  • @oliverdavies5233

    @oliverdavies5233

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ikr

  • @angry-blackguy

    @angry-blackguy

    11 ай бұрын

    I unironically listen to this for playthroughs

  • @INeedARadioTower

    @INeedARadioTower

    3 ай бұрын

    im glad im not the only one

  • @AKOverkill

    @AKOverkill

    3 ай бұрын

    Me too lol

  • @merashow2518
    @merashow25185 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss landing and sitting down feels like a cursed image

  • @MarioFan587YT

    @MarioFan587YT

    4 жыл бұрын

    But it's so cuuuute

  • @blayjay

    @blayjay

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was literally my favorite thing in gen 4. Using roost, it's so cute. 🥺

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon94684 жыл бұрын

    And in Sword and Shield, it's one of the best pokémon in the entire game.

  • @jeonghan2493

    @jeonghan2493

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why though (i didn't play sword and shield)

  • @whenthe8512

    @whenthe8512

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well only for vgc

  • @whenthe8512

    @whenthe8512

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeonghan2493 Best support pokemon, can also be run offensively and very well rounded

  • @_lostglory

    @_lostglory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where to start.. For one, it gets access to follow me, great typing, insanely high flinch rates with Air slash and serene grace. Now gets access to super luck, which combined with a razor claw or scope lens means it has a 50% crit rate. It is an all around insane support pokemon, second to maybe dusclops. It can fend for itself very easily, and can shut down threats with air slash flinches.

  • @13thKingMu

    @13thKingMu

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@whenthe8512 seriously,they need to nerf serene grace but not too much like how OU pokemon got nerf from broken to not very good

  • @babydevil_X
    @babydevil_X4 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss is now in top usage in VGC with Incineroar in SwSh. How the tides turn

  • @_lostglory

    @_lostglory

    4 жыл бұрын

    Far more usage than Incineroar, it is probably the best pokemon in the format.

  • @darkness74185

    @darkness74185

    4 жыл бұрын

    When you can be a sweeper, flincher, healer and a pure support all at once, and a good number of competitors of your job weren't invited to the party, you're bound to rule the scene pretty hard

  • @mortomultiverse8778

    @mortomultiverse8778

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkness74185 dont forget the 50% of crit in every attack he do

  • @Theofficialtino

    @Theofficialtino

    3 жыл бұрын

    How the turn tables

  • @jenisia3600

    @jenisia3600

    2 жыл бұрын

    How the turn tables

  • @divian22
    @divian226 жыл бұрын

    the real question here is, how good was to-gi-prweeeeeeeeeeee

  • @turntsnaco824

    @turntsnaco824

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna toge-preeee dude!

  • @vasco35

    @vasco35

    4 жыл бұрын

    The metronome god

  • @jeftehilomen1688

    @jeftehilomen1688

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @ronswanson7371

    @ronswanson7371

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aww 😊

  • @Eichro
    @Eichro6 жыл бұрын

    "Extremely lucky with Metronome" you mean "Self-Destruct every time it uses Metronome"?

  • @sammyjammy8709

    @sammyjammy8709

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first time it used self destruct was like Ash *almost loses* Togepi: BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

  • @eghiezenmarasigan7760

    @eghiezenmarasigan7760

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sad purplecliffe noises*

  • @sammyjammy8709

    @sammyjammy8709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eghiezenmarasigan7760 TOGEPI IS A BEAST..... *IMMEDIATELY EXPLODES*

  • @eghiezenmarasigan7760

    @eghiezenmarasigan7760

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sammyjammy8709 you dont get it do you?

  • @pumpkin6192

    @pumpkin6192

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dude,I remember losing mine to a explosion from Metronome. Never gonna use Metronome in a nuzlocke

  • @jaretco6423
    @jaretco64232 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss was such an monster. Despite how it looks, it don't mean a thing when it's an threat in battle. Also, smart choice for given Togetic an new evolution.

  • @optimisticcharizard602
    @optimisticcharizard6026 жыл бұрын

    2:00 CRAP! Crobat looked horrific! And I thought Venusaur's blood shot eyes where bad!

  • @lav9831

    @lav9831

    5 жыл бұрын

    Optimistic Charizard so much for optimistic...

  • @goldenexperiencerequiem4714

    @goldenexperiencerequiem4714

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah venusaur’s just high

  • @Jewgoo

    @Jewgoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ever thought Venusaur might be allergic to itself?

  • @HannibalKantter

    @HannibalKantter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why did they thought it would be great to make a 3d hyperrealistic face for Crobat? Ffs

  • @tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    @tofuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jewgoo Or he smoked the good stuff

  • @probablydylan3622
    @probablydylan36226 жыл бұрын

    I really thought the "How good are Ice types actually" was a good video so, could you possibly do another episode a specific type? If I had to pick one if would probably be ground but I really just think that any typing would be great as long as we get another type video.

  • @NeroAngelo616

    @NeroAngelo616

    6 жыл бұрын

    Okay from competitive perspective over the gens... Rhydon, Dugtrio, Marowak, Gligar and scor, Swampert/Gastro, Garchomp, Excadrill, Mudsdale, everyones favourite lover and hater we all know Landorus. Finally last but not least theres always chance of Primal Groudon impaling tectonic blades all up in yo ass...

  • @mikeJRthe2nd

    @mikeJRthe2nd

    6 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I want to see his Gen 1 explained Part 3 video before he does another type.

  • @mechamage

    @mechamage

    6 жыл бұрын

    yea bring blunder back

  • @jerryhan4563

    @jerryhan4563

    6 жыл бұрын

    fire or dragon type!

  • @NeroAngelo616

    @NeroAngelo616

    6 жыл бұрын

    A water move on a Storm Drainer with Desolate Land?? Seriously, why have you got more likes when your pointing an obvious cliché except missing my points?

  • @Trey-wl5mx
    @Trey-wl5mx6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD were Gligar & Gliscor ACTUALLY?

  • @frankienerdyboy

    @frankienerdyboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yert please god

  • @nintendosega100
    @nintendosega1004 жыл бұрын

    And now Togekiss is reigning supreme in SwSh as one of the best Pokémon in the game.

  • @mid7752

    @mid7752

    4 жыл бұрын

    As one who uses Choice Scarf Togekiss, I can confirm that.

  • @jambon2730

    @jambon2730

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mid7752 now he's in ru ... Along with really good pokemon like porygon... What happened?

  • @realmdarkness

    @realmdarkness

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jambon2730 Crown Tundra power creep

  • @navanithkrishnan7177

    @navanithkrishnan7177

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dracofish Fishius rend

  • @Light_2461

    @Light_2461

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jambon2730 DLC

  • @skibot9974
    @skibot99743 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised that in Gen 4 and Gen 5 nobody tried using Tri Attack on Togekiss. If you don’t know in Pokémon XD there’s a Shadow Togepi that knows Tri Attack and you can transfer it to a GBA game after clearing the story. If you then transferred it to Gen 4 you could evolve it into Togekiss. It would be Special Normal STAB that thanks to Serene grace would give a 40% chance to cause either burning, paralysis or freezing

  • @kylepua3469

    @kylepua3469

    Жыл бұрын

    Someone tried using this on Pokémon Showdown, and lemme tell you, 40% FREEZE is fucked up.

  • @skibot9974

    @skibot9974

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kylepua3469 did somebody see my comment? Also it’s technically only 13.33% chance of freezing specifically it’s just a 40% chance of inflicting a status condition

  • @vincentsissom4180
    @vincentsissom41806 жыл бұрын

    I am interested in seeing Weezing get the spotlight. An interesting Type Tank.

  • @christopheralvarado4544

    @christopheralvarado4544

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vincent Sissom Been having lots of fun with him in PU recently. Great fun. Pair a max hp and defence weezing w a assault vest lanturn and you can take hits for days.

  • @NeroAngelo616

    @NeroAngelo616

    6 жыл бұрын

    Love me using some Weezing.

  • @Ansemthewise59
    @Ansemthewise596 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say that this is my absolute favorite show! The format, the presentation, the history, and learning is really awesome. I often go back to Pokemon who I used before after watching an episode and make different sets with them. Great job with this show!

  • @raphaelkhoury218

    @raphaelkhoury218

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ansemthewise59 great ! Ot's a joy to see that this show reminds us of the road of pokemons through the generatioms and how they used to function ! 😍😍😍😍😉

  • @zacharymohammadi
    @zacharymohammadi4 жыл бұрын

    Clefable: I’m the most annoying Pokémon Blissey: No I am ???: amateurs Blissey: what’s that punk? ???: i said Togekiss: AMATEURS

  • @noahgee7452

    @noahgee7452

    4 жыл бұрын

    Zachary Mohammadi underrated comment

  • @MrMarsFromEarth

    @MrMarsFromEarth

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jirachi: Allow me to introduce myself

  • @ShiningJudgment666

    @ShiningJudgment666

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was painfully annoying in DPPHGSS OU if you didn't have an electric type like Zapdos or Jolteon and it was a special attacker that could power through Blissey with Nasty Plot and some luck (no Life Orb needed either).

  • @r3io4mf

    @r3io4mf

    4 жыл бұрын

    the odds of escaping thunder wave and air slash is (1/2)*(2/5)=1/5 that is 20%

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then Garchomp with king's rock / iron head lol He says hello lol

  • @RichieGonzo
    @RichieGonzo6 жыл бұрын

    15th time's the charm. Gligar and Gliscor pls

  • @WISHMKRMortem

    @WISHMKRMortem

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know right?

  • @liaminator4950

    @liaminator4950

    6 жыл бұрын

    YES

  • @lowkeyretarded9244

    @lowkeyretarded9244

    6 жыл бұрын

    YES

  • @ejcbubba27

    @ejcbubba27

    6 жыл бұрын

    Poison Heal Gliscor is Awesome!!

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser926 жыл бұрын

    How good was *Jolteon* actually? (Egg-cellent video, BTW.)

  • @kbuckets9060

    @kbuckets9060

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't get it

  • @wikiuser92

    @wikiuser92

    6 жыл бұрын

    Didn't you notice all the egg puns in the video?

  • @rodchaccur
    @rodchaccur4 жыл бұрын

    Well, time for a Sword and Shield update cause VGC smelling like togekiss

  • @originalJoeKing
    @originalJoeKing6 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was funny that Togepi hatches from an egg to still be inside of one.

  • @matthewmcmullen9099
    @matthewmcmullen90996 жыл бұрын

    Please Please Do Marowak Next Episode

  • @Huyverwoud

    @Huyverwoud

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Mcmullen yes

  • @Fishimus

    @Fishimus

    6 жыл бұрын

    Highest potential attack stat in the game? Yes please!

  • @TheNorth15
    @TheNorth156 жыл бұрын

    Who here remembers Gold's Togepi, Togebo, the savage alcoholic chain-smoking gambling bruise-knuckled Togepi that absolutely destroyed Silver's Tyranitar in Pokemon Adventures

  • @Pokepig812

    @Pokepig812

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol I remember

  • @TheNorth15

    @TheNorth15

    6 жыл бұрын

    I still remember Togepi playing poker. Togepi mimicking Gold's personality was hilarious.

  • @danieljones3943

    @danieljones3943

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ever watched Pokemon Golder, the video parody? I think that Gold and his psycho Togetic/Togekiss is based on Gold and Togebo from Pokemon Adventures.

  • @doukyuuseii99
    @doukyuuseii995 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss is by far my favorite pokemon; I went through the trouble to find a shiny togepi in generation 4 so I could have a togekiss with silver wind, nobody ever expects it.

  • @trash_boat_64
    @trash_boat_646 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate all the hard working videos you guys do and enjoy them! Keep up the good work!!

  • @lizerdspherex
    @lizerdspherex6 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss: The little stealth bomber that could.

  • @frenchiee_96

    @frenchiee_96

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @HazmanFTW
    @HazmanFTW6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?

  • @xander5733

    @xander5733

    6 жыл бұрын

    Harry good........alot

  • @nathanmccarthy8976

    @nathanmccarthy8976

    6 жыл бұрын

    Good alot yeah that's correct English

  • @clairaragon2881

    @clairaragon2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would actually like to see this.

  • @JustAnotherVolg

    @JustAnotherVolg

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do this for April Fools day

  • @sonofulti1859

    @sonofulti1859

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's not enough to talk about. It was only good with it's imposter ability. It's only as good as the pokemon it transforms into. Done.

  • @AzoiatheCobra
    @AzoiatheCobra3 жыл бұрын

    me at gen 4 battle net "why do my friends hate to play agaisnt me?" remember that i had a serene grace team with a stealth rock lead aerodactyl - special wall blissey with softboil, minimize, thunder bolt and ice beam, dunsparce with ancient power, headbutt and glare, iron head jirachi, air slash togekiss, and sky shaymin.......´ "oooooh right.... but i stopped using that and they still hated me" remember the onslaught that my double team blizard brigthpowder glaceon threw on them under an abomasnow hail... "damn i was a dick" remember that i recently swept one of them with a level 1 prankster cottone when we did a remember... "GOD IM STILL A DICK"

  • @BrandonPlaysStuff
    @BrandonPlaysStuff6 жыл бұрын

    2:12 "Unfortunately for Togekiss" when we look at Togetic.

  • @zaza445
    @zaza4456 жыл бұрын

    Those egg puns *crack me up*

  • @arthurhalcyon7410
    @arthurhalcyon74106 жыл бұрын

    Let's get another How Good Was _____ Type ACTUALLY vid!

  • @riddledoodles1250

    @riddledoodles1250

    6 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @arthurhalcyon7410

    @arthurhalcyon7410

    6 жыл бұрын

    A while ago they did a video on how good the ice type is. I'd like to see another type video

  • @dataovermind

    @dataovermind

    6 жыл бұрын

    fire?

  • @arthurhalcyon7410

    @arthurhalcyon7410

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dark is my favorite type

  • @GwyndolinSimp
    @GwyndolinSimp4 жыл бұрын

    My reaction when I see a Togekiss now and my mon is slower: *"Oh no"*

  • @goGothitaLOL

    @goGothitaLOL

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or weak to Fairy or Flying

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter6 жыл бұрын

    So many egg puns. EGGstraordinary.

  • @redtiger5586

    @redtiger5586

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheUKNutter I

  • @vffbgx616

    @vffbgx616

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eggcellent

  • @abookwas9170

    @abookwas9170

    4 жыл бұрын

    eggxactly

  • @TheUKNutter

    @TheUKNutter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I stopped watching this channel after he tried to damage control my friends by stealing their content as his own. This was an interesting reminder of what I used to see though.

  • @abookwas9170

    @abookwas9170

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheUKNutter nani

  • @galactic1555
    @galactic15556 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD were Gligar and Gliscor ACTUALLY?

  • @frankienerdyboy

    @frankienerdyboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ga lactic plz man we need this vid

  • @pokestar2337
    @pokestar23376 жыл бұрын

    How good was PINSIR actually

  • @darkfire1234
    @darkfire12346 жыл бұрын

    you do tremendous work fsg. Please keep up the good work

  • @snecolsslocens7498
    @snecolsslocens74986 жыл бұрын

    Your content has always been consistently solid, but this video was excellent! Felt very polished. Keep up the good work!

  • @diegodiaz8397
    @diegodiaz83976 жыл бұрын

    How good was gligar and gliscor?

  • @frankienerdyboy

    @frankienerdyboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Diego Díaz yes

  • @aidantoryk9488

    @aidantoryk9488

    6 жыл бұрын

    Diego Díaz Both are great. Done.

  • @neonflashsparkotron5435

    @neonflashsparkotron5435

    6 жыл бұрын

    Diego Díaz yes!!!!!

  • @ejcbubba27
    @ejcbubba276 жыл бұрын

    Can you do "How good was Feraligatr ACTUALLY" next Please!? I've wanted this for so long!!

  • @Jabeke49

    @Jabeke49

    6 жыл бұрын

    He sucked

  • @justinbowman1342

    @justinbowman1342

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can't handle the truth.

  • @suezuccati304

    @suezuccati304

    6 жыл бұрын

    I THINK there's already a video for that pokemon

  • @ejcbubba27

    @ejcbubba27

    6 жыл бұрын

    「Jᴀʙᴇᴋᴇ49」 Sheer Force Life Orb boosted STAB Liquidation and Ice Punch for Grass, Dragon and Flying coverage with Dragon Dance and Earthquake for Electric and Steel coverage says otherwise. Unfortunately, Feraligatr will still take Life Orb damage with Earthquake.

  • @ejcbubba27

    @ejcbubba27

    6 жыл бұрын

    KennyJoão Metaleiro No there isn't. I haven't seen a Feraligatr video yet.

  • @rezrider21
    @rezrider216 жыл бұрын

    I love that Togetic got an evo! And a useful one at that. The typing change helped too.

  • @Smart1529

    @Smart1529

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah alot of people hate Gen 4 because of additional evolutions and not liking their designs but honestly at least you can use these Pokémon. You can't convince me that Togetic or Murkrow didn't need an evolution.

  • @rezrider21

    @rezrider21

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Smart1529 right! Even the humanoid 1 stage pokes like Magmar and Electabuzz got a nice evolution.

  • @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399

    @hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone be hating about how the evolutions be ugly but what if weavile didn't exist

  • @soulblazer2392

    @soulblazer2392

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Smart1529 Yeah. A lot of gen 2 mons were really trash, so an evolution to them were very necessary.

  • @Poondaedalin
    @Poondaedalin Жыл бұрын

    I know some people despise this Pokemon competitively because of Paraflinch, but as a playthrough Pokemon, it's one of the best they've ever made. I love the huggable fairy airplane

  • @bidyogames
    @bidyogames6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Muk ACTUALLY

  • @somalianpirate7305
    @somalianpirate73056 жыл бұрын

    History of Pikachu in Competitive Super Smash Bros. (Preferably Fox, for he had quite a history in Smash. But let's keep up the Pokemon theme.)

  • @vegetavsluigi

    @vegetavsluigi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Somalian Pirate History of Fox is quite easy: He was great in 64, he dominated Melee, he was okay in Brawl but Brawl was cancer anyway, and he’s great in 4. As for Pikachu: Dominated 64, pretty good in Melee (and even got a clone), wasn’t all too spectacular in Brawl, and is pretty good in 4, but only has one real representative in Esam.

  • @homelesstogreatness6626
    @homelesstogreatness66264 жыл бұрын

    I'm having ptsd from serene grace + paraflinch + missing my rockslide when I was finally able to move.

  • @spazerdazer8421

    @spazerdazer8421

    4 жыл бұрын

    When you decide to roll with rockslide over stone edge for the better accuracy and still miss.

  • @ShiningJudgment666

    @ShiningJudgment666

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can attest to the Serene Grace flinches. Swept so many teams with Nasty Plot. Parahax support too.

  • @yee6870

    @yee6870

    3 жыл бұрын

    rip king

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi6 жыл бұрын

    Watching this thing grow from such humble roots was actually quite incredible.

  • @Jacob-nr9iv
    @Jacob-nr9iv6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Ninetales??????????

  • @mattoguy7939

    @mattoguy7939

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jacob 070503 Good idea brother.

  • @andreivaldez6713

    @andreivaldez6713

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bad until generation 5 when it got Drought, then mediocre in gen 6 with the weather nerf, then finally mediocre again in gen 7 with instant Hail and Aurora Veil with it resting in Borderline - too good for UnderUsed but not used enough to be considered OverUsed - currently.

  • @killu2later

    @killu2later

    6 жыл бұрын

    it was decent in gen 1 because it had over 100 special and decent speed.

  • @jiabryant533

    @jiabryant533

    6 жыл бұрын

    killu2later Still fire was not a good type in gen 1. And why play ninetails over the other fire types. All ninetails is a mediocre pokemon till gen 5 where it was only good for its ability and when that got nerf. At least it alolan form pretty good.

  • @pedrodetzel4202
    @pedrodetzel42026 жыл бұрын

    Weezing plz! Such an overlooked pokemon and was such a beast in the old days!

  • @allewis4008
    @allewis40086 жыл бұрын

    Oh the egg puns! Great vid, Togekiss is one cool (and cool looking) little mon!

  • @GamingG4276
    @GamingG4276 Жыл бұрын

    At first I did not like the Togepi line that much, but I started to grow fond of it after I learned to appreciate Fairy types.

  • @probablydylan3622
    @probablydylan36226 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD were Ground Types ACTUALLY?

  • @krspaceT1
    @krspaceT16 жыл бұрын

    Exeggutor, Exeggutor, Oddish. I'm honestly curious where Exeggutor turned from top line to....whatever it is now a days.

  • @captainangamos2212

    @captainangamos2212

    6 жыл бұрын

    krspaceT1 PU I think

  • @TDIdialgagirl
    @TDIdialgagirl6 жыл бұрын

    "Joy Dust" does sound like a drug

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito44056 жыл бұрын

    Togetic actually hasn’t been in the lowest tier in recent gens, largely because of the introduction of Eviolite. It’s movepool has expanded along with Togekiss’s, and it can also pull off a good Paraflinch set, especially with its good typing and Eviolite-boosted defenses. It’s speed also isn’t as much of a problem thanks to it’s increased bulk and the fact that it’s in a lower tier. As far as I can remember it’s in either RU or NU (though I think it’s NU because RU is full of walls who don’t care about air slash and clerics who can clear paralyzation as of now)

  • @gengarzilla1685

    @gengarzilla1685

    5 жыл бұрын

    Togetic can't learn Air Slash though. Ability wise, it would probably get more out of Super Luck unless it ran Fire coverage or wanted Soft-Boiled.

  • @jamesdinius7769

    @jamesdinius7769

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gengarzilla1685 Two words. Tri Attack

  • @pokeworks1
    @pokeworks16 жыл бұрын

    Pretty please can we have a How good were gligar and gliscor actually ?!!

  • @Eggs5232
    @Eggs52326 жыл бұрын

    Will we see another type analysis soon? The Ice video is my favourite of yours.

  • @DoctorMinjinx

    @DoctorMinjinx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @deandregreene2587
    @deandregreene25875 жыл бұрын

    Stat wise: (If Togekiss were to receive a Mega Evolution) Type: Fairy/Flying HP: 85 >>> 85 (0) Attack: 50 >>> 40 (-10) Defense: 95 >>> 125 (+30) Special Attack: 120 >>> 145 (+25) Special Defense: 115 >>> 135 (+20) Speed: 80 >>> 115 (+35) Potential Abilities: Regenerator, Serene Grace, Magic Guard, Gale Wings, Pixilate, Fur Coat, Soul-Heart

  • @Umayyasupremacy

    @Umayyasupremacy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yuckk 🤢🤢🤢, imagine the rage quits

  • @thebravegallade731

    @thebravegallade731

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Umayyasupremacy I mean, with regeneratior its just a good setup sweeper. if it kept serene grace tho...

  • @gamechanger700

    @gamechanger700

    4 жыл бұрын

    It would be already broken

  • @thecarpenter6420
    @thecarpenter64206 жыл бұрын

    Oooh, the metronome battles... So many good moments!

  • @espenmauseth1284
    @espenmauseth12846 жыл бұрын

    How good was *Metagross* my man? Been waiting for that vid my entire life.

  • @albertbatres7673
    @albertbatres76736 жыл бұрын

    How good was S H E D I N J A actually? Please I'm begging you

  • @amberhernandez

    @amberhernandez

    6 жыл бұрын

    Albert Batres That'll probably be the April Fool's day analysis.

  • @ChillavaKirby

    @ChillavaKirby

    6 жыл бұрын

    Joe Boxer That'd actually be really funny I hope he does that

  • @lambdapegasus9535

    @lambdapegasus9535

    6 жыл бұрын

    Albert Batres to be honest, pretty terrible actually, yeah Wonder guard is pretty good but...yeah the ONLY thing it has that is good is Wonder guard, the rest...is fucking awful, it's stats, it's movepool, and 90 base attack is pretty pathetic, faster and stronger ghost types outclassed it like Gengar (and it's Mega), Froslass and Mismagius, and ghost types that can take hits like Dusclops with Eviolite, Dusknoir, Cofagrigus and Mega Sableye, let's not forget that status, weather, and Pokemon with Mold breaker, Turbo blaze and Terra volt can destroy Shedinja, also entry hazards like Spikes, Toxic spikes and Stealth rock can kill it as well, a Pokemon holding a Toxic Orb, Flame Orb, Black sludge and Sticky barb can use Trick on Shedinja and kill it with those items, last but not least, if Shedinja is a physical attacker, it can KO itself if it hits Pokemon holding a Rocky helmet or if it has Rough skin or Iron barbs, with all that said, Shedinja is in NU

  • @yungtrashlord

    @yungtrashlord

    6 жыл бұрын

    also annoying af when your pokemon does not have moves that can take care of it

  • @SnowWhiteTheU2
    @SnowWhiteTheU24 жыл бұрын

    Togepi is my favorite Pokémon still to this day. And so glad to see that he made a massive comeback in sword and shield and is one of the best in the game when evolved to Togekiss. You should update that

  • @toddpeters2611
    @toddpeters26112 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see this video updated like some of his other older videos

  • @Roller610
    @Roller6106 жыл бұрын

    How good was gligar and Gliscor actually

  • @davidmuhs4590
    @davidmuhs45906 жыл бұрын

    how good was you actually?

  • @keionbradley4254
    @keionbradley42546 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you got cloyster, he’s my fav but I wasn’t aware that he was this good! Now I wanna see how good swalot is

  • @gokutilapa
    @gokutilapa4 жыл бұрын

    You forgot Eviolite Togetic, it’s actually really good.

  • @whiteamericanmale7392

    @whiteamericanmale7392

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's actually really bad

  • @abrahamgonzales1888

    @abrahamgonzales1888

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty bad,only decent defensively,but even in that it’s stats are so bad

  • @gamechanger700

    @gamechanger700

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even if it's defensive stats are great,support moveset is lackluster

  • @qingpetcher667

    @qingpetcher667

    3 жыл бұрын

    Goku Dragon it’s good I placed 14 in a tournament with it on my tesm

  • @filthypenguintv4931

    @filthypenguintv4931

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's so amazing! It's what I used to beat the Super Double Battles in the ORAS Battle Maison

  • @sealandrelevant1310
    @sealandrelevant13106 жыл бұрын

    I'm not about to give up on GRASS TYPES!!! (Are we serious that Venusaur is still the only one ever covered?!) I insist on what I said last time! How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY?

  • @allewis4008

    @allewis4008

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me too! Vileplume/Bellossom please!

  • @MC_Seto

    @MC_Seto

    6 жыл бұрын

    And Breloom!

  • @invaderzim1842
    @invaderzim18426 жыл бұрын

    Dugtrio next please

  • @nuclearpzn

    @nuclearpzn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Turki Alamri Yesss!!

  • @deathserpent9747
    @deathserpent97476 жыл бұрын

    Youve got me eggcited for the next video

  • @jayace92
    @jayace926 жыл бұрын

    Eagerly await these every Sunday! I vote for "How good was the Grass type actually" for next week

  • @JTLDrago94
    @JTLDrago946 жыл бұрын

    How good was gligar & gliscor ACTUALLY?

  • @frankienerdyboy

    @frankienerdyboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    JT LDrago94 I second this

  • @ivolloxy3030
    @ivolloxy30306 жыл бұрын

    Clefable!!! How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY?

  • @Ditto-ib5xv

    @Ditto-ib5xv

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've literally been preaching for this for 2 months!

  • @ivolloxy3030

    @ivolloxy3030

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ditto1396 LOL Same

  • @TicTac2
    @TicTac26 жыл бұрын

    you didn't tell us Togekiss' base stats when you introduced it. but it's only a small thing, keep up with the great videos

  • @TheFirehands150
    @TheFirehands1503 жыл бұрын

    I remember I went months of playing rage quitters who met my Togekiss' paraflinch lol

  • @emiliocamachoerice6380
    @emiliocamachoerice63806 жыл бұрын

    How good was star platinum actually

  • @galvanize790

    @galvanize790

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pretty good, to be honest.

  • @ChubbyRadish

    @ChubbyRadish

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora!!!

  • @tonifigueroa1798

    @tonifigueroa1798

    6 жыл бұрын

    it was great in ORAs

  • @III-iz9yj

    @III-iz9yj

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was pretty good in the Gen 3 and Gen 4 meta, only matched by Za Warudo and Crazy Diamond. It was still pretty good in Gen 5 but, in Gen 6 he got nerfed having his impressive defense cut in half and is hard counter by anything faster than it.

  • @lcyphah

    @lcyphah

    6 жыл бұрын

    In gen 6 he got nerfed and dropped to Dead

  • @guildmasterri5995
    @guildmasterri59956 жыл бұрын

    do gligar/gliscor next

  • @Liam-uh5fh
    @Liam-uh5fh6 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good video!

  • @pablojams5152
    @pablojams51524 жыл бұрын

    Wondering for the remake on this one, this thing is absolutely everywhere in Gen 8 VGC

  • @noahwhite4481
    @noahwhite44816 жыл бұрын

    This is what I look forward to every weekend

  • @thajuice6695

    @thajuice6695

    6 жыл бұрын

    This

  • @carlosarce4061
    @carlosarce40616 жыл бұрын

    Aggron! How good was Aggron ACTUALLY?

  • @fav9619
    @fav9619Ай бұрын

    Man we need another updated version of this video.

  • @Dawn_of_the_Dan
    @Dawn_of_the_Dan Жыл бұрын

    I ran a surprise mixed Togekiss in Gen 5. Hustle ability, max attack and special attack with Extreme Speed, Brick Break, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball. Assisted by a Baton Passer with Hone Claws/Swords Dance.

  • @ScottOctober
    @ScottOctober6 жыл бұрын

    Puns are top notch in this one.😃

  • @flyestskeleman

    @flyestskeleman

    6 жыл бұрын

    You could say they were eggcelent.

  • @Cyro23

    @Cyro23

    6 жыл бұрын

    K.E.V. when aren't they good?

  • @pyro4sub28

    @pyro4sub28

    6 жыл бұрын

    The EGGisode was great!

  • @LoinkLoink

    @LoinkLoink

    6 жыл бұрын

    Abigail65656 SecretiveCrystalix Roblox Videos When tf did playing Minecraft become an offensive thing? I don't understand either of your logic, it's just a game, not a cult or some shit

  • @pinheadious
    @pinheadious6 жыл бұрын

    How good were the johto starters actually?

  • @andreivaldez6713

    @andreivaldez6713

    6 жыл бұрын

    sparkly_donuts Bad. Every one of them is bad.

  • @fst-biggie5056

    @fst-biggie5056

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrei Valdez Feraligatr has Sheer Force with good stats, Typhlosion has good stats but lacks a good move set and we all know Meganium is terrible.

  • @eafmarine
    @eafmarine6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, keep it up! And I think you should pop your Gen III cherry How good was Salamence?

  • @abominationdesolation8322
    @abominationdesolation8322 Жыл бұрын

    I will never subscribe to entertainment channels but I like every single video this channel puts out.

  • @sonofulti1859
    @sonofulti18596 жыл бұрын

    Woah woah woah, you didn’t even talk about Togetic and eviolite! And how it would spam Tri Attack. Togetic is possibly one of the best eviolite users nowadays in PU.

  • @2supermaro

    @2supermaro

    6 жыл бұрын

    SonOfUlti Yeah i completely forgot about that

  • @borzavrl

    @borzavrl

    6 жыл бұрын

    Togetic is D tier in USUM PU viability rankings...

  • @SonKunSama

    @SonKunSama

    6 жыл бұрын

    Togeti isn't that good, it loses to many stealth rockers and still has shit defense with Eviolite

  • @Hayds126

    @Hayds126

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t call it one of the best. Maybe because it’s slow and somewhat ok sp atk. The best eviolite user is probably chansey

  • @sonofulti1859

    @sonofulti1859

    6 жыл бұрын

    In PU it is one of the best. Maybe not all around THE best, but it's still up there.

  • @xx_v_xx4373
    @xx_v_xx43736 жыл бұрын

    How good was Exeggutor ACTUALLY?

  • @MarioFan587YT
    @MarioFan587YT4 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss is my favourite Pokémon. It's so cute and it's pretty great

  • @HorrorGeek9
    @HorrorGeek96 жыл бұрын

    Togepi, Togetic, and Togekiss are so cute

  • @PapaTaurean
    @PapaTaurean6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Gligar and Gliscor? Also... Poor Togekiss... just doesn't get too many tools to play with. Cute though.

  • @SonKunSama

    @SonKunSama

    6 жыл бұрын

    - Scarf Air Slash - Leftovers Roost + Nasty Plot + 2 attacks - Life Orb Nasty Plot - Bulky Specs - Thunder Wave + Air Slash - Body Slam + Air Slash - Heal Bell + Wish support - Toxic stall - Substitute + Nasty Plot What are you saying? This is one of the most versatile Pokémon. Oh yeah, it also gets Defog these days.

  • @elitepro7487

    @elitepro7487

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scipio Africanus it had defog in gen 6

  • @CharroArgentino

    @CharroArgentino

    6 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss only problem is that it can't run everything. It's versatile as fuck.

  • @tobymacintosh7249
    @tobymacintosh72496 жыл бұрын

    I hate how all the comment's are people asking for new mons and not how good ur vids are keep up the good work FSG!

  • @allewis4008

    @allewis4008

    6 жыл бұрын

    I make it a point to say these vids are awesome, even the egg jokes on this one!

  • @wolololer

    @wolololer

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah literaly every coment is about the next video no1 cares to talk about the video they just watch its our society always lookign for the future and forgeting the present

  • @Shivan_16
    @Shivan_166 жыл бұрын

    Another great video as usual! Keep up the good work boss! Maybe for your next video consider how GOOD was Aggron ACTUALLY? Thanks for all your hard work! :D

  • @eduardogiraldez5471
    @eduardogiraldez54714 жыл бұрын

    The tale of how the peasant Togetic become into the TogeKing.

  • @JShortsFR
    @JShortsFR6 жыл бұрын

    "Joy dust." *Immediately thinks of LISA: THE PAINFUL*

  • @davidwang1637

    @davidwang1637

    4 жыл бұрын

    RPG

  • @pari8266

    @pari8266

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidwang1637 oh that lisa the painful, thanks. I'd been wondering for 2 years

  • @axelsarchive4301
    @axelsarchive43016 жыл бұрын

    How good was Jolteon actually?

  • @andrewdecker616
    @andrewdecker6164 жыл бұрын

    Togekiss is tied with gengar for my favorite Pokemon. The good old days of a calm nature serene grace paraflinch (thunder wave+air slash) with roost for recovery and nasty plot, or even flamethrower for some builds for that coverage against grass, ice, and most importantly steel.

  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar3 жыл бұрын

    This was recomended to me on Easter :)

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