How GOOD was Jolteon ACTUALLY? - History of Jolteon in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6)

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JOLTEON! The Lightning Pokemon! Jolteon is a fan favorite amongst the eeveelutions and provides powerful electric attacks with high speed. Does this speed help it in competitive Pokemon? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Jolteon in Competitive Pokemon!
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @TheGreatBryan25
    @TheGreatBryan256 жыл бұрын

    Eeveelutions are fine and dandy, But what I'm about to propose is more than handy, You don't catch it - it joins you, It's more fearsome than Salamence and greater than Mewtwo, On your side of the field, Assured victory it shall yield, A form most unassuming, Misleading, defeat looming, Facing it comes with mortal risk, So tell me my friend - How good was Luvdisc?

  • @ItzTayMan-_-

    @ItzTayMan-_-

    6 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @TheGreatBryan25

    @TheGreatBryan25

    6 жыл бұрын

    We can make this a reality. We are only roughly five quintillion votes behind Vaporeon. Let's show them what a real water type looks like!

  • @guildmasterri5995

    @guildmasterri5995

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stronger than that goat for sure :d

  • @TheGreatBryan25

    @TheGreatBryan25

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well. We probably didn't win this time... I guess I have to write a rap now. MC Heart Scale coming soon to a comment section near you.

  • @TheGreatBryan25

    @TheGreatBryan25

    6 жыл бұрын

    I posted a rap on Vaporeon and a parody of CM Punk's pipe bomb promo on Flareon. Like my posts, do it for Luvdisc!

  • @bhavanijaisankar7675
    @bhavanijaisankar76754 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having a jolteon with timid nature, quick feet, higher speed iv, knows agility, holding toxic orb, jolteon is the fastest animal In galar and alola.

  • @patrickward7412

    @patrickward7412

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish Quick Feet gave jolteon 1.6x speed, because then there'd be a reason to use it over scarf.

  • @rosemaryemberseso7667

    @rosemaryemberseso7667

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think unburden accelgor is faster.

  • @Azusashusband

    @Azusashusband

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickward7412 50% is the same as a scarf

  • @Rainb0wzNstuff

    @Rainb0wzNstuff

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickward7412 why not run both?

  • @robowolfzane6666

    @robowolfzane6666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dankrose KZread show because then you would need another Pokémon to give jolteon status

  • @CrimsonOptics
    @CrimsonOptics6 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is, in my opinion, the most consistent eeveelution. As much as I love Umbreon and Espeon, they both fall flatter than Jolteon does. I mean, it's speed stat is so good you don't even need to scarf it. Jolteon's always a solid pick for me.

  • @CrimsonOptics

    @CrimsonOptics

    4 жыл бұрын

    @extreme odst Espeon is kinda outclassed by other psychic types, and its move pool is just kinda average. Its stats are too. Why would I pick Espeon when I could pick Alakazam, Starmie, or Slowbro? Umbreon is really tanky and I love him to death, but just like Espeon, he's kinda outclassed by other dark types. Jolteon, though, is great for its speed alone. It also has a decent special attack stat. Sure, its movepool isn't the best, but if you need an electric type that can outspeed most things, Jolteon is my go-to.

  • @CrimsonOptics

    @CrimsonOptics

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Nish The Great That is true, I forgot Espeon gets Magic Bounce, which puts it considerably higher.

  • @sephangelo4603

    @sephangelo4603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CrimsonOptics Umbreon wasn't really outclassed by other dark Pokémon defensively though. I owned a kid's Breloom with my Umbreon using Confuse Ray and Foul Play

  • @jjc4924

    @jjc4924

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Jolteon has Pin Missile; which is something Umbreon & Espeon better watch out for.

  • @Unpopular_Duality.

    @Unpopular_Duality.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is what raichu should have been from the start.

  • @StephonZeno
    @StephonZeno6 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon has to be my most favorite eeveelution. It has such a cool design and is one hell of a glass canon. Jolteon is always my go to electric type pokemon, then again, I don't really care about tiers and just use the ones I like.

  • @Grintock

    @Grintock

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean favourite. No such thing as most favourite.

  • @mrtrollnator123

    @mrtrollnator123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon's my favourite as well

  • @tfx9223

    @tfx9223

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vaporeon is my favorite

  • @mahmoodhusein4549

    @mahmoodhusein4549

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, Jolteon was always my favorite since I was a kid, and it's still my favorite now.

  • @reginlief1
    @reginlief16 жыл бұрын

    You know who else was a quintessentially fast and frail electric type Pokemon? Tangela. You should do tangela. And tangrowth.

  • @BaconLover07IsCool

    @BaconLover07IsCool

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, Tangela is a Steel/Dragon Type.

  • @megaagentj2248

    @megaagentj2248

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justvo no, it's bug/rock

  • @eigorson

    @eigorson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tangela is a typeless type

  • @thewhiteninjaminington8953

    @thewhiteninjaminington8953

    5 жыл бұрын

    No It’s Fairy Poison Like Stovepipe ha..I mean Galarian Weezing

  • @kalif2164

    @kalif2164

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tangela is Water type because it's blue are yall colorblind or something?

  • @BradTheThird
    @BradTheThird6 жыл бұрын

    Since it looks like next week is Vaporeon, for the love of God, no bad jokes about the what the third video will be... We don't need another Quagsire incident.

  • @FlipFlopFlip

    @FlipFlopFlip

    6 жыл бұрын

    BradTheThird i like quagsire

  • @Samsen_
    @Samsen_6 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is my favorite eeveelution following by Umbreon and Leafeon. I had a lot of great moments with it and it has a special place in my heart. Even when I played Pokemon Sun it was still a powerhouse and I will always have it on my main team even if it's not as "good" like it used to be.

  • @professorplayz1875

    @professorplayz1875

    3 жыл бұрын

    My fav is Jolteon, too! Then Flareon, then vaporeon.

  • @sirsir9665

    @sirsir9665

    9 ай бұрын

    He can learn Shadow Ball too so he can deal with Ghost types with better speed. He can get some good TM moves

  • @SwagTips
    @SwagTips6 жыл бұрын

    "And Flareon did-nothing" xDD

  • @dru4111

    @dru4111

    5 жыл бұрын

    SwagTips Its so sad that Flareon’s stats are so sub-par, because its one of my favourite Pokemon just with design alone.

  • @stygiandragon3865

    @stygiandragon3865

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Nick Cruz Well, it still didn't solve Flareon's biggest problem: Its pathetically garbage movepool

  • @stygiandragon3865

    @stygiandragon3865

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Nick Cruz Still better than Flareon

  • @TheEmilyFravel

    @TheEmilyFravel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stygian Shadow and FALSE PROPHET

  • @Azusashusband

    @Azusashusband

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Nick Cruz well guess what? Jolteon is even worse in gen 8 because the removal of hp and signal beam they did this 2 my boi no

  • @NecroVMX
    @NecroVMX6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Muk ACTUALLY? it's well past time.

  • @NecroVMX

    @NecroVMX

    6 жыл бұрын

    Been begging for Muk for ages on this channel, one time I got like 300 likes but it hasn't happened yet. We'll get him eventually, Can't Fuk with Muk!

  • @kamikazex8o8

    @kamikazex8o8

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wanna see it too but like to wait until he starts doing the new gen

  • @peteypiranalover

    @peteypiranalover

    6 жыл бұрын

    NecroVMX wait for the gen 7 to be current. So we can het alola muk to. That is why I am waiting

  • @andrewsnorlaxxx745

    @andrewsnorlaxxx745

    6 жыл бұрын

    kuM best mon

  • @xxrainbodkidxx5508

    @xxrainbodkidxx5508

    6 жыл бұрын

    When the lord and saviour dunsparce came I thought nothing of your “master race of muk” well I just thought of you as mukafuka

  • @chamber8234
    @chamber82346 жыл бұрын

    (HERE’S A LIST OF ALL POKÉMON THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED. I will start putting this list in every video as soon as I can so that everyone will know what has been done and what hasnt. ) The following Pokémon have already been analyzed (In order): Charizard Venusaur Blastoise Dragonite Starmie Snorlax Gengar Alakazam Gyarados Chansey/Blissey Machamp Arcanine Lapras Articuno Zapdos Moltres Tauros Aerodactyl Nidoking Scizor Tyranitar Rhydon/Rhyperior Shuckle Heracross Smeargle Skarmory Golbat/Crobat Slowbro Wigglytuff Porygon/Porygon2 Porygon-Z Seadra/Kingdra Onix/Steelix Azumarill Magenton/Magnezone Sneasel/Weavile Poliwrath Espeon Umbreon Ampharos Cloyster Houndoom Togetic/Togekiss Pikachu Raichu Breloom Garchomp Gardevoir Gligar/Gliscor Feraligatr Typhlosion Quagsire Meganium Dunsparce Donphan Jolteon Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analytic video.

  • @phipy1823

    @phipy1823

    6 жыл бұрын

    holy crap dude gj

  • @TheUKNutter

    @TheUKNutter

    6 жыл бұрын

    FSG needs this list and to expand it

  • @caseymoore4097

    @caseymoore4097

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is really cool, but would probably be better sorted alphabetically.

  • @chamber8234

    @chamber8234

    6 жыл бұрын

    Casey Moore Noted.

  • @TheUKNutter

    @TheUKNutter

    6 жыл бұрын

    Casey Moore This was written in order by when each video was uploaded.

  • @MissAshley42
    @MissAshley424 жыл бұрын

    Oh my goodness, look at it flail its paws around in Stadium! Too cute!

  • @alexandradordzhieva3835
    @alexandradordzhieva38354 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon: I am SPEED

  • @bhavanijaisankar7675

    @bhavanijaisankar7675

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually jolteon is speeder.

  • @vincecabanilla2310

    @vincecabanilla2310

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stand user:Jolteon stand:*MADE IN HEAVEN*

  • @Sncyuki

    @Sncyuki

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bhavanijaisankar7675 w h a t

  • @AsianWithHat
    @AsianWithHat6 жыл бұрын

    *How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?*

  • @knightwingowl1923

    @knightwingowl1923

    6 жыл бұрын

    AsianWithHat yes

  • @Brickly1

    @Brickly1

    6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Swampert ACTUALLY?

  • @dragoncry7104

    @dragoncry7104

    6 жыл бұрын

    swampert!

  • @jalenjordan7219

    @jalenjordan7219

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes! How Good was Swampert ACTUALLY?

  • @nqk_0662

    @nqk_0662

    6 жыл бұрын

    AsianWithHat yes please for the love god

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Metagross ACTUALLY?

  • @andrewburgess-linden9612

    @andrewburgess-linden9612

    6 жыл бұрын

    JCBro2014 Next Week, 😉😉

  • @unboundsoul3582

    @unboundsoul3582

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully Metagross gets in. I've wanted Meta or Aggron for forever but either is good with me.

  • @Hyperneosonic97

    @Hyperneosonic97

    6 жыл бұрын

    Really want Metagross too.

  • @Tael98

    @Tael98

    6 жыл бұрын

    Metagross

  • @michaelbesser4984

    @michaelbesser4984

    6 жыл бұрын

    I mean... it's Metagross. How good do you think it's going to be?

  • @KlowdZzz
    @KlowdZzz5 жыл бұрын

    I’m addicted to this series. Send help.

  • @speedbae7665

    @speedbae7665

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's far too late for you now. :)

  • @ronswanson7371

    @ronswanson7371

    2 жыл бұрын

    We’re not doing get help

  • @pokejolt9908
    @pokejolt99083 жыл бұрын

    Man, Jolteon has been my favorite Pokémon of all time, but I never knew that it was this good in the meta. It just gives me more reason to love it.

  • @mrtrollnator123

    @mrtrollnator123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah!

  • @CalamityWE

    @CalamityWE

    Жыл бұрын

    W pfp

  • @stevenmattrell3448
    @stevenmattrell34486 жыл бұрын

    *How GOOD was Piloswine/Mamoswine ACTUALLY?* I WILL NEVER GIVE UP

  • @baaaapppxx

    @baaaapppxx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steven M Attrell You can't give up if you only tried once. Also cam you vote for Marshadow some time in the future? Everyone seems to like it when you suggest for Pokemon

  • @user-db5fg1co1d

    @user-db5fg1co1d

    6 жыл бұрын

    _thicc_ fat

  • @4TechNeTium3

    @4TechNeTium3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up to this

  • @pantherman691

    @pantherman691

    6 жыл бұрын

    meh how good was nosepass/probobass

  • @Sunaki1000

    @Sunaki1000

    6 жыл бұрын

    Support Flygon and I support Mamoswine

  • @beebobber546
    @beebobber5466 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was the Soviet Union ACTUALLY?

  • @Redhood69420

    @Redhood69420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @kierenbuckley370

    @kierenbuckley370

    6 жыл бұрын

    BeeBober546 shit

  • @oskoshua4482

    @oskoshua4482

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes please

  • @90Rush

    @90Rush

    6 жыл бұрын

    Союз нерушимый республик свободных Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. Да здравствует созданный волей народов Единый, могучий Советский Союз!

  • @olwere

    @olwere

    6 жыл бұрын

    BeeBober546 yes

  • @krullachief669
    @krullachief6696 жыл бұрын

    "And Flareon did... Nothing" This had me in stitches.

  • @Bioniclema90
    @Bioniclema906 жыл бұрын

    It's so depressing to see these really awesome Pokemon from gen 1 and 2 be really strong, but dying slowly but surely throughout the franchise =(

  • @Andrew-zo5po

    @Andrew-zo5po

    Жыл бұрын

    ice tera jolteon says hi

  • @Techtastisch
    @Techtastisch6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Raikou actually?

  • @rongneezy41

    @rongneezy41

    6 жыл бұрын

    Techtastisch | Experimente und Lifehacks but this is already that

  • @sypsenelle100

    @sypsenelle100

    6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD gallade ACTUALLY?

  • @rocketeer9183

    @rocketeer9183

    6 жыл бұрын

    Raikou is basically a better jolteon

  • @smirglepapier531

    @smirglepapier531

    6 жыл бұрын

    Techtastisch | Experimente und Lifehacks lol nice ur here. Didn't know you liked the Pokimäns

  • @seiler3485

    @seiler3485

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hätte nicht erwartet, dich hier zu sehen. :'D

  • @ShinyHunterHunter
    @ShinyHunterHunter6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD were Misdreavus/Mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @endre7984

    @endre7984

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shiny Hunter Hunter My favorite Ghost types. :D

  • @dutchluigimastr5619

    @dutchluigimastr5619

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shiny Hunter Hunter It doesn't affect Misdreavus! Please tell me you get this reference.

  • @takeyourpills3979

    @takeyourpills3979

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shiny Hunter Hunter yeah would be pretty interesting

  • @rdg1065
    @rdg10656 жыл бұрын

    By the way I just wanted to say thanks there might be a reboot incoming but your work here will be a legacy I'll remember for years to come and you can't imagine how eagerly I wait for your videos just keep the good work guys

  • @spencerbowden2979
    @spencerbowden29794 жыл бұрын

    Well you can’t expect a Pokémon to compete with a legendary of the same type. So it makes sense Zapdos would overpower It.

  • @xL0stKIlah

    @xL0stKIlah

    4 жыл бұрын

    Legendaries shouldn't be allowed in any competitive format

  • @infinitethunder6184

    @infinitethunder6184

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@xL0stKIlah ...why? They arent all op. And the ones that are are banned to ubers

  • @spencerbowden2979

    @spencerbowden2979

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just Another Handy among the gen one legendarys they all overperform. Zapdos is a flying type that has a crazy strong special attack and real fast speed and can’t be damaged effectively by electric moves since its electric too. Articuno is an ice type and only has weaknesses to Pokémon it can easily take out because like Zapdos it’s speed is really high. Moltress honestly isn’t all that great too many weaknesses not enough pros. Mewtwo is absurdly stupid strong not a lot can counter him aside from another mewtwo. Legendarys tend to perform on a scale above average no matter how they are played which takes away the need to play with much form of strategy which is honestly why I think they shouldn’t be allowed in competitive tournaments. There’s also the unfairness in using mythical legendarys. Not only are they powerful but few people can get them anymore.

  • @mihirmalik5222

    @mihirmalik5222

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spencer Bowden Articuno and moltress die to rocks

  • @bryanc1772

    @bryanc1772

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny enough. Jolteon itself is one of the few checks to the mighty Zapdos in RBY alongside Golem and Rhydon Zapdos was difficult to counter in RBY

  • @PinguGnu
    @PinguGnu6 жыл бұрын

    *Requests Jolteon every week since the start* dosent get into the start requests part😢

  • @chrisdono9897
    @chrisdono98976 жыл бұрын

    How good was Vaporeon actually?

  • @jamon8139
    @jamon81396 жыл бұрын

    As the first Mon I ever EV trained I'll always love Jolt

  • @taylorchesser8990
    @taylorchesser89906 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I had no idea Jolteon did so well in competitive!

  • @jeroenb699
    @jeroenb6996 жыл бұрын

    Time for the ice age. How good were Piloswine and Mamoswine actually?

  • @ShinyTillDawn

    @ShinyTillDawn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mamoswine's powers 'snow joke.

  • @westinpooladsanj9267
    @westinpooladsanj92676 жыл бұрын

    Keep the gen 1 eevee evolutions going! Vaporeon!

  • @raikazuchi2516
    @raikazuchi25166 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY my all time favorite. Also, when I was a kid, I was saved by a lucky 5-hit Pin Missile against my rival’s Alakazam in the last seconds of the champion battle. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who’s been spared by such a commonly overlooked move.

  • @MarceloOmegaAGDM
    @MarceloOmegaAGDM6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was fixed Focus Energy in Gen I ACTUALLY?

  • @doomerang3133
    @doomerang31336 жыл бұрын

    Please my boy mamoswine is waiting for you

  • @MaverickHunterDaniel
    @MaverickHunterDaniel6 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely appreciate Vaporeon done soon. It's my favourite poke of them all and your videos are incredibly interesting.

  • @alldayagain
    @alldayagain5 жыл бұрын

    Non-competitive, but Jolteon was my favorite solution for Psychic types in Gen 1 with Pin Missle

  • @MASTEROFSAND
    @MASTEROFSAND6 жыл бұрын

    Dont need to ask for another video. Im JUST HAPPY MY JOLTY GOT TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT!!!

  • @BogleDominic1
    @BogleDominic16 жыл бұрын

    How BAD was Flareon ACTUALLY?

  • @prouddegenerates9056

    @prouddegenerates9056

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trash

  • @swallow_skyla3602

    @swallow_skyla3602

    6 жыл бұрын

    >base 130 Attack >all Fire moves were Special wakemeup.jpg

  • @Mewseeker

    @Mewseeker

    6 жыл бұрын

    But guys, the floof!

  • @skylarfox_bmb

    @skylarfox_bmb

    6 жыл бұрын

    But Flare Blitz spam

  • @Dragrath1

    @Dragrath1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget that it took several generations to get a physical fire move even after the physical special split >_>

  • @seashore4475
    @seashore44756 жыл бұрын

    how good was Tentacruel Actually???

  • @teslatica7337

    @teslatica7337

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dippy Fresh Clone

  • @felixlee9645

    @felixlee9645

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sea Shore yes

  • @doctorsmoothlove

    @doctorsmoothlove

    6 жыл бұрын

    We will get it eventually

  • @seashore4475

    @seashore4475

    6 жыл бұрын

    doctorsmoothlove yes oneday...I feel you on that...

  • @doctorsmoothlove

    @doctorsmoothlove

    6 жыл бұрын

    We should vote for it on Patreon. Tentacruel isn't Metagross, Swampert or one of those mons that you know people will vote in ASAP

  • @strawbreevee
    @strawbreevee6 жыл бұрын

    Flareon. Just to troll the people who want vaporeon.

  • @deviant6661
    @deviant66616 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon, I remember that guy. Pretty cool how you mentioned the name of another gen1 electric type alongside it. You know, a certain electricity-filled upside down pokeball with a toothy smirk on its face. But how GOOD was that electricity-filled upside down pokeball ACTUALLY?

  • @endermewtwogaming2817
    @endermewtwogaming28176 жыл бұрын

    How good was exeggutor actually? i`ll never give up on this damn palm tree!

  • @nathanf1149
    @nathanf11496 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD Was Kangaskhan ACTUALLY?

  • @thefinalskarm1754
    @thefinalskarm17545 жыл бұрын

    Here's hoping they give the Eevelutions some major buffs in gen 8, secondary baseline abilities, actual HA's that help Jolteon/Umbreon/Flareon and some additions to each of their movepools, oh the things i would do for EQ Leafeon, or Glaceon not being a "defensive" based ice type (chuckles).

  • @hitkid2456

    @hitkid2456

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leafeon would probably get Drill Run over that

  • @EStarstruck
    @EStarstruck6 жыл бұрын

    Vaporeon!!!!!! I will never stop commenting for vaporeon

  • @azj1467
    @azj14676 жыл бұрын

    Now you have to do the other two Eeveelutions, how GOOD were flareon and vaporeon ACTUALLY?

  • @vegetavsluigi

    @vegetavsluigi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Azj1 Flareon is hot garbage. ‘Nuff said.

  • @TheDiego908

    @TheDiego908

    6 жыл бұрын

    Flareon's life sucked until it got Flare Blitz as a reminder that his life sucked even harder

  • @DillonSolos

    @DillonSolos

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vaporeon: Bulky water type, limited moves. Flareon: LMAO NO

  • @shirshanyaroy287

    @shirshanyaroy287

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vaporeon is basically a discount suicune

  • @bartek8309

    @bartek8309

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheDiego908 1. So does Jolteons in the anime 2. But at least Flareons are cute

  • @DerSamalander
    @DerSamalander6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD were Misdreavus and Mismagius ACTUALLY?

  • @resdraon

    @resdraon

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its the dude who's comment has been in like very video :O

  • @poisonedyoyo

    @poisonedyoyo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes gen some more gen four Pokemon again (though technically also gen two), it is sad to see only Garchomp and Weavile of gen four having videos with all the great Pokemon from then.

  • @majelalover8837

    @majelalover8837

    6 жыл бұрын

    I would say pretty bad

  • @DerSamalander

    @DerSamalander

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but it's pretty cool :D

  • @HeilRay

    @HeilRay

    6 жыл бұрын

    DerSamalander Decent sweeper if you know what you’re doing. Nice sp.def and Sp.atk so figuring out if you’re switching into a good tankable hit is key.

  • @maclegend6952
    @maclegend69525 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was GIRATINA ACTUALLY PLIZZZZZ I WANT TO SEE GIRATINA THE GOD OF CHAOS

  • @Pr1est0fDoom
    @Pr1est0fDoom6 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thank you for doing Jolteon!

  • @calyrex436
    @calyrex4366 жыл бұрын

    How good was vaporeon actually

  • @Croutonking65
    @Croutonking656 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?

  • @BlueWolfZero
    @BlueWolfZero3 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon was completely outclassed by Raikou in Gen 7 RU and even if it did drop to NU, it’ll still be outclassed, this time by Heliolisk, Togedemaru, and Rotom. Even if it dropped to PU, the fact that Eelektross is one of the best Pokémon in the tier means already Jolteon has competition, but at least it could still have a niche down there. The playerbase finally learned their lesson and let Jolteon drop to PU in Gen 8, but it still has competition in the form of Rotom-Fan, Togedemaru, and the excellent new Morpeko. At least it still has a niche, however.

  • @apolissentary9534
    @apolissentary95345 жыл бұрын

    I know this video is old but it came up in my feed and I thought it said how good was Johntron actually Love the channel btw

  • @nathanf1149
    @nathanf11496 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD Was Mewtwo ACTUALLY?

  • @kieranmalone1936
    @kieranmalone19366 жыл бұрын

    how good was vapeorion ACTUALLY

  • @yoshimeier3060
    @yoshimeier30606 жыл бұрын

    I think its interesting to see, how far a decent attack stat with large speed goes. Many Gen1 Mons fall down over time except for Buffs. But Jolteon held its own quite a long time and if you look at the GBA or similar formats its still deadly asset.

  • @wish_cave
    @wish_cave2 жыл бұрын

    this video is a really good example of how different early FSG is from modern FSG Jolteon was basically mid-tier OU for the first 4 generations even with Baton Pass, merely existing in the meta instead of being a crucial part of it, being very specific in what teams it can fit on, and pretty much only stayed OU due to popularity and not because of merit. it has only gotten worse in past gens as time goes on and deserved to drop out of OU starting in Gen 5, and is so bad that modern BW players don't even acknowledge its existence on the viability thread. the only tier where it ever achieved A-rank viability is ironically in Gen 6 RU (the first time it fell). such a Pokemon would be treated much harsher in a modern video and be an example of the flaws of the tiering system but achieves endless praise in this video just because it was OU 5/6 times

  • @sephikong8323

    @sephikong8323

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon was pretty legit in gen 1 and 3, it's drop being more recent and way past when those generations were the current generation. It was not a top metagame threat, but it was also far from awful either, yes nowadays it's not as good due to shifts in the meta (notably for RBY the absolute game changer that was the Same Type status immunity discovery that indirectly lead to the fall of Exeggutor and a relative increase in Rhydon and the two combined lead to Jolteon being worse off than before) I agree with the sentiment you shared here, but at the same time, for those two gens at least, it's a bit harsh (though for DPP, calling it mid tier OU would be exaggerating how good it was in the tier)

  • @fede7475
    @fede74756 жыл бұрын

    How good was swampert ACTUALLY?

  • @Brickly1

    @Brickly1

    6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Swampert actually?

  • @niconexus5914
    @niconexus59146 жыл бұрын

    YES I WAS WITING FOR THIS! Now here's a thing I want.... How GOOD was Vaporeon Actually?

  • @alexsano1450
    @alexsano14506 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Tentacruel ACTUALLY?! Keep gen 1 going!

  • @Takananoshi

    @Takananoshi

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Madden Tentacruel was one of the gen 1 Pokémon that actually became useful in the end, I like it

  • @Regicited
    @Regicited2 жыл бұрын

    I think every eevee evolution really reflects the owners personality, but I am definitely a Jolteon fan

  • @thebrightlord-techtheintel712
    @thebrightlord-techtheintel7126 жыл бұрын

    How good was Tentacruel actually?

  • @RebelliousTreecko
    @RebelliousTreecko6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Sceptile, ACTUALLY?

  • @dwebly3089

    @dwebly3089

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was held back due to a lack luster movepool

  • @cubeman9766

    @cubeman9766

    6 жыл бұрын

    superior is superior as a grass starter

  • @SolidSnacks_18

    @SolidSnacks_18

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cubeman na Torterra is superior

  • @fakeemailwkrohn86

    @fakeemailwkrohn86

    6 жыл бұрын

    Serperior*

  • @neonflashsparkotron5435

    @neonflashsparkotron5435

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rebellious Treecko not good

  • @JustInCaseD
    @JustInCaseD4 жыл бұрын

    Then gen 8 came and neutered its movepool into the ground. RIP Jolteon

  • @grrumakemeangry

    @grrumakemeangry

    3 жыл бұрын

    ikr 😭

  • @suchomimustenerensis

    @suchomimustenerensis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Set Thunderbolt Volt Switch Shadow Ball UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM.

  • @leafshavingtool9185

    @leafshavingtool9185

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me who pairs Focus Sash Corsola to set up Weather and sweep with Weather Ball Jolteon: 👁👄👁

  • @hitkid2456

    @hitkid2456

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@suchomimustenerensis HYPER BEAM

  • @suchomimustenerensis

    @suchomimustenerensis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hitkid2456 HYPER BEAM SUCKS

  • @teeonezee
    @teeonezee5 жыл бұрын

    i love the bgm of your videos

  • @sperrythegod5777
    @sperrythegod57776 жыл бұрын

    How good was pinsir actually

  • @sypsenelle100

    @sypsenelle100

    6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD gallade ACTUALLY?

  • @sammertens6998

    @sammertens6998

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sperry the god Pinsir always sucked, until he got a mega. There you go, no video needed.

  • @andrewshewan4551

    @andrewshewan4551

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sperry the god I say this as someone who loves pinsir more than most bug catchers. Pinsir Sucks. It's moveset is almost entirely normal and fighting but it lacks the attack, bulk, or speed to make it work. Aerialate saved Pinsir from Obscurity.

  • @sperrythegod5777

    @sperrythegod5777

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Shewan I am aware of how good Pinsir was, however, I just suggest it, so they can make a video of it.

  • @sperrythegod5777

    @sperrythegod5777

    6 жыл бұрын

    shadow Xッ that's a cool idea.

  • @NurseGundam
    @NurseGundam6 жыл бұрын

    How Good was Vaporeon actually?

  • @SlipYoke6081x
    @SlipYoke6081x6 жыл бұрын

    I love Jolteon, I run it in nearly every playthrough of the games

  • @murdanito
    @murdanito6 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is still my favorite pokemon to this day and this video put a smile on my face.

  • @scandanmapping8507
    @scandanmapping85076 жыл бұрын

    Cover Vaporeon next

  • @stableclefable5138
    @stableclefable51386 жыл бұрын

    Plz do vaporeon

  • @giovannibredo2196
    @giovannibredo21966 жыл бұрын

    Also, now that we're back to gen 1, when Gen 1 Battling Explained Part 3 ?

  • @hillhank3070
    @hillhank30706 жыл бұрын

    HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS DAY

  • @steelforcezhd9051
    @steelforcezhd90516 жыл бұрын

    how good was electabuzz/electivire ACTUALLY? i wont give up

  • @ShinyTillDawn
    @ShinyTillDawn6 жыл бұрын

    Vaporeon's fall from grace.

  • @YagamiDidntLikeThat
    @YagamiDidntLikeThat6 жыл бұрын

    When I clicked on this. I thought it will talk about the main series games but this helped thanks

  • @hv30590
    @hv305906 жыл бұрын

    Any plans on doing another video on how good a specific type was? Like you did with Ice. Would love to see one about psychic, ghost, steel or dark.

  • @lorenzomartinelli7665
    @lorenzomartinelli76656 жыл бұрын

    Great, we’re back to Gen 1, so... How GOOD was Clefable ACTUALLY?

  • @jessespeers5357

    @jessespeers5357

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lorenzo Martinelli gen 1 sux

  • @creative_commander4973

    @creative_commander4973

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lorenzo Martinelli In gen 1-5, not good. Great movepool, but too all-around. Until Gen 6, where it was the king/queen of OU.

  • @NexusSpacey
    @NexusSpacey6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Vaporeon Actually?

  • @villainx91
    @villainx916 жыл бұрын

    yes,14 minute video, thats what I like to see, the long ones

  • @BATTRA_3AM
    @BATTRA_3AM4 жыл бұрын

    So I really enjoy these videos and watching you go through all these pokemon and how great or uh not too great they were but Would you ever do a series of How good are they Now? How good is Jolteon/( Other Pokemon) Now?

  • @heidi7905
    @heidi79055 жыл бұрын

    Oof, just noticed in Gen 1 you split the special stat.

  • @bluemew22
    @bluemew22 Жыл бұрын

    "Raikou was a bigger version of it" Makes perfect sense in the lore. Supposedly the legendary beasts are resurrected dead Eeveelutions who were trapped inside when Burned Tower burned

  • @Apterygidae
    @Apterygidae6 жыл бұрын

    My Favorite and first Level 100 Pokémon

  • @CritsuKirby
    @CritsuKirby6 жыл бұрын

    How good was Mewtwo actually? (Now with 90% less of squiggly chimeras in need of the Gen. 4 treatment)

  • @TheThegreatshinigami
    @TheThegreatshinigami6 жыл бұрын

    I was pretty curious of how good was Jolteon, it was my favorite Eeveelution up until Espeon.

  • @beunjoris
    @beunjoris6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for doing gen one again! How good was MUK actually?

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace6 жыл бұрын

    How GOOD was Golem ACTUALLY? Since we're back to Gen 1 Pokémon, make a video for one of the kings of R/B/Y that hasn't gotten a video yet.

  • @FactswithKat

    @FactswithKat

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gardetrace exeggutor also needs a video

  • @chuyrenteria6252

    @chuyrenteria6252

    5 жыл бұрын

    He did the video.

  • @NeoGraena

    @NeoGraena

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Magnus Von Braun Exeggutor is technically not as bad as Golem & Tauros In Gen 5 it became a bit relevant again thanks to Harvest

  • @hitkid2456

    @hitkid2456

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@toomeowstream3253 The worst of the trade lot for sure

  • @stableclefable5138
    @stableclefable51386 жыл бұрын

    How good was clefable actually plz it’s been 6 months

  • @EarlEdinbour
    @EarlEdinbour6 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is and always will be my favorite Pokemon! :D

  • @pikachubutcute9686
    @pikachubutcute96866 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Now I know how good jolteon is gonna be on my aplha sapphire team!

  • @kaptainkitteh606
    @kaptainkitteh6066 жыл бұрын

    How good was VAPOREON actually?

  • @flynamu1048
    @flynamu10486 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon kept it's spot in OU over 5 generations (until Gen 6 ruin his day). And I love Jolteon's design and that it's a fast and unpredictable. Just one day Jolteon might come back to OU (one day).

  • @larsweise8315
    @larsweise83154 жыл бұрын

    Today they announced the preliminary tier list for Pokémon Sword and Shild and Jolteon is currently in NU😥.Hope it will find a nice place somewhere in the meta. There is no Hidden Power available by now, however it gets Weather Ball as a TM move. So maybe it can be used on a weather teams for extra coverage.

  • @heiranima4534
    @heiranima45346 жыл бұрын

    How good was Vaporeon Actually? I mean, you've already started the Eevee trio, might as well finish it.

  • @siam9914
    @siam99146 жыл бұрын

    Its a beast!! I played with it in platinum, fire red. Its sooo good!!

  • @jayjaysworld7110
    @jayjaysworld71105 жыл бұрын

    Jolteon is the best form of eevee cuz yellow’s my favorite color

  • @pigyguy
    @pigyguy6 жыл бұрын

    Do pidgey

  • @adagioliggin9899
    @adagioliggin98996 жыл бұрын

    How good was Jynx ACTUALLY?

  • @nosh_becausem
    @nosh_becausem3 жыл бұрын

    “Hi everyone, it’s a pleasure to be here on your show today!”

  • @wat5058
    @wat50586 жыл бұрын

    Goodness knows that my Jolteon, Feebee, did more than its fair share of work during the E4 + champion of my Fire Red nuzlocke...

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