How GOOD was Cryogonal ACTUALLY? - History of Cryogonal in Competitive Pokemon

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Cryogonal is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this overview of Cryogonal in competitive Pokemon!
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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming Жыл бұрын

    Whoops! Error in the Gen 9 set. Cryogonal doesn't get Toxic anymore

  • @markerthemark

    @markerthemark

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish that gen 9 didn't just up in get rid of toxic for most mons.

  • @GWFanSoftcoreBrony

    @GWFanSoftcoreBrony

    Жыл бұрын

    Not really much of an error when they eventually will allow Pokemon Home to bring old movesets back again (supposedly sometime in the spring). I'm sure Blissey falling all the way to RU for the first time ever will reverse once it gets Teleport back.

  • @LegendStormcrow

    @LegendStormcrow

    Жыл бұрын

    Solar Beam makes sense as crystals refract and focus light. Same with Flash Cannon. Got nothing for Poison Jab though.

  • @owensmith7642

    @owensmith7642

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GWFanSoftcoreBrony moves get reset when bringing them through home now so they won't get it back

  • @mehdihabibi9400

    @mehdihabibi9400

    Жыл бұрын

    home support be like: bounjour

  • @gliddens24
    @gliddens24 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure the Solar Beam and Flash Cannon explanations root from the fact that even if Cryogonal is a snowflake, it also kinda resembles a mirror. So the attacks may just be Cryogonal reflecting light, getting more of the "solar" and "flash" parts of the attack. Night Slash could be because its edges could be really sharp? SO it spins like a top and cuts you. As for poison jab... yeah, I have no clue about that one XD

  • @JT-fq2bl

    @JT-fq2bl

    Жыл бұрын

    Poison Jab is due to snow not being pure. Go outside with a glass cup and scoop some so-called clean snow, put it in the microwave, and watch the results. I ganrutee you will not be sticking your tongue out to catch snow ever again.

  • @Cool-Vest_Leo

    @Cool-Vest_Leo

    Жыл бұрын

    But how do you explain attract? Sure, it's pretty, but it has no gender so it always fails. They probably didn't think through the design process of a snowflake that much.

  • @peet-janissen5838

    @peet-janissen5838

    Жыл бұрын

    yellow snow? so poison jab?

  • @andreivaldez2929

    @andreivaldez2929

    Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal uses its toxic personality to insult the opponent before punchig them to perform Poison Jab.

  • @MakoShiruba

    @MakoShiruba

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cool-Vest_Leo It's a Mirror, so it "Attracts" people using it's reflection. Kinda how some people would "Kiss their mirror, if they could"

  • @whomgod420
    @whomgod420 Жыл бұрын

    Man I was actually just thinking about this guy yesterday and how weirdly decent he's always been despite being a defensive ice type

  • @anonymouskaiju9101

    @anonymouskaiju9101

    Жыл бұрын

    turns out given an ice type an actually okay speed stat helps a lot

  • @MakoShiruba

    @MakoShiruba

    Жыл бұрын

    Healing Move with a Great Speed and a super minmaxed statline with a great ability and decent moveset goes a long way

  • @breloommaster12

    @breloommaster12

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, as long as an Ice-type has a good speed stat, it doesn't matter if they cannot hit hard if they can still do what they need to do (like Froslass and Alolan Ninetales)

  • @Direblade11

    @Direblade11

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, FSG is a decent guy. :^)

  • @galvsparks6295

    @galvsparks6295

    Жыл бұрын

    @@breloommaster12 and cryogonal still hits quite decently harder than both of these

  • @jalapenobug
    @jalapenobug Жыл бұрын

    The +10 HP and +20 Defense stat buffs in Gen 7 also helped (even if its defense stat is still pathetic)

  • @LeDave257

    @LeDave257

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it should have at least 70 def

  • @cuttlefish6839

    @cuttlefish6839

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LeDave257 sure but snow also gives it a def boost if I keeps its ice typing and it can always Terra to steel with stab flash cannon so idk if it needs it. After playing a couple months of gen 9 I got to day Terran are way better than I thought best mechanic since dynomax imo

  • @Eroil

    @Eroil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cuttlefish6839 best mechanic since dynamax is funny

  • @beebobber546

    @beebobber546

    Жыл бұрын

    I always get slightly bummed out when he doesn’t mention stat buffs, as small as some may be

  • @Avghistorian77

    @Avghistorian77

    Жыл бұрын

    That +20 should’ve gone to special attack.

  • @rixrobin
    @rixrobin Жыл бұрын

    This thing was super broken on showdown for like a week because it was the only mon that learned aurora veil, light screen, and reflect and it was coded incorrectly on showdown so they stacked. They fixed it pretty quickly but it was great for that short period of time.

  • @shadowmetroid18
    @shadowmetroid18 Жыл бұрын

    Surprising that cryogonal is one of the pokemon that has managed to not miss a generation so far with dexit

  • @CMSonYT

    @CMSonYT

    Жыл бұрын

    GOTTA keep those important pokemon in

  • @andersolson44

    @andersolson44

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean every region needs snow, right?

  • @noahtaylor1721

    @noahtaylor1721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andersolson44I guess sinnoh doesn’t need snow then.

  • @momsforseti318

    @momsforseti318

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noahtaylor1721 Yea but I've never seen any snow over there

  • @noahtaylor1721

    @noahtaylor1721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@momsforseti318 I forgot that sinnoh doesn’t have snow, only hail.

  • @ThisAintGood.
    @ThisAintGood. Жыл бұрын

    This guy was the reason I won against Zygarde in DAs, I don’t care how good he is, he’s Uber in my heart

  • @KrimzonKasper

    @KrimzonKasper

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell me more about it :0 I’m curious to know your Cryogonal stats and nature. Movesets too

  • @bananatassium7009

    @bananatassium7009

    Жыл бұрын

    what are DAs?

  • @scoutsilver3349

    @scoutsilver3349

    Жыл бұрын

    Dynamx Adventurers

  • @ThisAintGood.

    @ThisAintGood.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KrimzonKasper They’re set when you pick it, it just so happens that Cryo has a really good set movepool and stats

  • @NightSkyNyx

    @NightSkyNyx

    Жыл бұрын

    Shiny hunting for legendaries in the Dynamax Adventures has given me newfound appreciation for Pokémon I otherwise were neutral towards or didn’t think too highly of. Comfey, Togedamaru, Qwilfish, and of course Cryogonal being Pokémon that I now majorly respect because of how instrumental they have been in my various legendary shiny hunts lmao (Sigilyph as well, but I actually always liked Sigilyph from the start lol)

  • @evanmclaughlin7988
    @evanmclaughlin7988 Жыл бұрын

    i liked that his stats ended up getting better with +20 defense and +10 HP

  • @misirtere9836
    @misirtere9836 Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal getting Solar Beam is actually based on interesting trivia about real snow. Snow is actually really good at reflecting light, so much so that it can be blindingly bright under the right circumstances. Sounds like a solar beam to me.

  • @skeetermania3202

    @skeetermania3202

    Жыл бұрын

    Also if you look outside when it’s Sunny and snow is on the ground, the sun shines much brighter than usually.

  • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions

    @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions

    Жыл бұрын

    I've heard if you're not careful, you could receive sunburns on your face climbing tall snowy mountains!

  • @TheTimeMage

    @TheTimeMage

    Жыл бұрын

    wouldnt mirror shot make more sense?

  • @WolfKnightLukos

    @WolfKnightLukos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheTimeMage It be more focused on the snow and ice albedo, which is an object's ability to reflect light.

  • @ordinaryman27

    @ordinaryman27

    Жыл бұрын

    What about poison jab?

  • @cheruledge
    @cheruledge Жыл бұрын

    Minor mistake in the SV section, Cryogonal doesn’t actually get Toxic this gen, so it runs Chilling Water instead. Great video anyway. It surprised me how it could be used in SM PU

  • @adva1282

    @adva1282

    Жыл бұрын

    Finally someone mentions that fact, I've been looking for this comment

  • @prof.pick1es283

    @prof.pick1es283

    Жыл бұрын

    Thaught he ment it was immune to toxic cause steel

  • @Jzwiz

    @Jzwiz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@prof.pick1es283 nah they list the 4 moves used at the bottom and toxic was listed on accident

  • @golemofwill4728
    @golemofwill4728 Жыл бұрын

    A fast special wall is very unique. Shame this thing is always so hard to find in games. It's a very solid mon. Tera types and fixing ice types is gonna be very fun to see in the evolving meta, especially for avalugg.

  • @misael960

    @misael960

    Жыл бұрын

    The only other fast special wall that I record is Tentacruel . And maybe Latias , but she is an legendary so I don't think it counts.

  • @TheMirksta

    @TheMirksta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@misael960 There's Nihilego, Scream Tail, Flutter mane that are fast high SPDEF mons, also if you count it stuff like Torn T and Mienshao who are both fast and work well with AV. Tapu Fini is pretty fast for a mon that bulky too, though not quite at the same level

  • @Eroil

    @Eroil

    Жыл бұрын

    Very solid mon in ZU maybe lol. With tera it has a good chance but I see no hope for avalugg with that speed and spdef

  • @jmurray1110

    @jmurray1110

    Жыл бұрын

    By hard I can only assume you mean late

  • @worldiefeard8396

    @worldiefeard8396

    Жыл бұрын

    But hey, for what matters, in SV it's all over the place on the mountain. Then again, no pokemon is really rare in first place in SV i suppose ^^"

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 Жыл бұрын

    I once had a dream where I was playing Pokémon black and cryogonal evolved from a snowflake into a mega huge snowflake. Still waiting for it to happen.

  • @grrumakemeangry

    @grrumakemeangry

    Жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @leafshavingtool9185

    @leafshavingtool9185

    Жыл бұрын

    Your dream predicted gigantamax. Just the wrong pokemon.

  • @90091

    @90091

    Жыл бұрын

    There is one is a fangame where it's ability is Sleet. Its hail on steroids where a pokemon will lose 20% of their hp if they are not immume to hail. Would be so fun if they added this to the main game.

  • @ordinaryman27

    @ordinaryman27

    Жыл бұрын

    They'll probably pull a Moushold and add more original for it's evo

  • @aikou2886

    @aikou2886

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish it evolved into an ice sculpture or something like that.

  • @frankinglese7100
    @frankinglese7100 Жыл бұрын

    I used to call it “Giant Metal Snowflake” and still do sometimes. Also, it was one of the few Pokémon that was an enemy in “Smash Run” from “Super Smash Bros. for 3DS” if anyone remembers that.

  • @vla1ne

    @vla1ne

    Жыл бұрын

    damn i miss that mode.

  • @pikapower_kirby

    @pikapower_kirby

    Жыл бұрын

    Aw I loved Smash Run! And yeah, seeing Cryogonal there when I first played was a really neat surprise!

  • @Leet-iz2fz

    @Leet-iz2fz

    Жыл бұрын

    Smash Run was my introduction to Cryogonal. What solidified my admiration for it was the time I got one in Pokémon GO with a Combat Power rating on par with *legendaries* in spite of its poor IVs. Ironically I have yet to use one on a team in all the main series games I've played.

  • @LionsEatNoobs
    @LionsEatNoobs Жыл бұрын

    This is what I love about this channel. I always learn about how Pokemon that I never used before can really do. Mind you, I'm not a competitive battler, but these videos give me a new appreciation for some of these underrated Pokemon

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd Жыл бұрын

    An interesting story to see an Ice type that actually got better, for all of a generation.

  • @pottedplant7460
    @pottedplant7460 Жыл бұрын

    Man, this brings back the memories of hunting for a shiny one of these. Underrated shiny imo, always reminded of dawn on a winters day

  • @pieterhofkens7259
    @pieterhofkens7259 Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal is one of the better single stages mons imo

  • @Eroil

    @Eroil

    Жыл бұрын

    Ignoring legendaries it's probably still bottom 50% for single stage

  • @galvsparks6295

    @galvsparks6295

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Eroil idk man, single stage has a lot of trash, cryogonal being usable already puts it above average on that front

  • @Eroil

    @Eroil

    Жыл бұрын

    @@galvsparks6295 gen 8 ZU single stage Pokemon that are better- Rotom (regular), miltank, qwilfish, sawk, stunfisk, morpeko. This is ZU

  • @heavyrain5949

    @heavyrain5949

    Жыл бұрын

    @@galvsparks6295 Above? Nah, but it's a perfectly average mon, nothing wrong with that 🤷

  • @galvsparks6295

    @galvsparks6295

    Жыл бұрын

    @@heavyrain5949 above average for a single stage, not as a pokemon as a whole

  • @RickRaptor105
    @RickRaptor105 Жыл бұрын

    It feels like a missed opportunity that this was pure Ice type instead of Ice/Ghost

  • @Zizou_DW
    @Zizou_DW Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad Cryogonal was decently well off at what it did. This is another case of a Pokémon not needing to be the best to still excel in its role.

  • @danielmaynard239
    @danielmaynard239 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe some more underrated Pokemon could be covered too, like Lumineon or Noctowl

  • @leoberumen116

    @leoberumen116

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's their story: they sucked

  • @yardship

    @yardship

    Жыл бұрын

    For these really bad Pokémon maybe there could be a section where someone talks about what they need to ever be competitive, maybe go over some hypothetical changes or evolutions. There are some poketubers who could guest host for this!

  • @nathanmears6440
    @nathanmears6440 Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t realize how much someone at gamefreak loves Cryogonal. Between all the seemingly random coverage moves in solar beam, night slash, poison jab, getting an HP and defense buff AND getting defog in gen 7. It just seems like Cryo is someone’s favorite and keeps sneaking it everything they can

  • @freshboy3968

    @freshboy3968

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh definitely.

  • @calebshmanderson
    @calebshmanderson Жыл бұрын

    The reason why cryogonal can learn and/or use Solarbeam and Flash Cannon is because it's a mirror.

  • @Ghaust8546

    @Ghaust8546

    Жыл бұрын

    Okay but night slash?!?

  • @calebshmanderson

    @calebshmanderson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ghaust8546 Idk I only know the reasoning behind the other two moves

  • @tentativaX

    @tentativaX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ghaust8546 Why not Night Slash? Cryogonal sure looks like a ninja star, right?

  • @MakoShiruba

    @MakoShiruba

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ghaust8546 Razor Sharp Broken Mirror that looks like a Shuriken. Yeah, I would expect this thing to know Slash and it's variants.

  • @silverbolt9439

    @silverbolt9439

    Жыл бұрын

    Blame gf they sometimes slap moves on mons that make no sense design wise no lore needed(for coverage that's the only excuse).😂 Gastly with the elemental punches and wooper with ice punch no hands Ma.

  • @CosmicNebula444
    @CosmicNebula444 Жыл бұрын

    For the last point, I think it's really interesting how much typing can do so much for a Pokémon (maybe a video topic for another day?) Like yeah steel in general is fantastic but I find it fascinating how it really helped Cryogonal shine when it was otherwise completely outclassed

  • @taltairzaltair8074
    @taltairzaltair8074 Жыл бұрын

    This vid came out whilst I was sat around trying to figure out how to use the mon on showdown, absolutely class timing. It’s stat distribution is really unusual, same with the movepool, so I was finding myself totally lost. I really do like it’s design, I have a soft spot for weird looking mons haha, deffo gonna use it now

  • @nohrianscum9791
    @nohrianscum9791 Жыл бұрын

    Cryo has a strangely good record of showing up in regional dexes. Barring remakes that stick to their old regional dexes, Cryo was in 3 of the 4 regional dexes (Kalos, Galar, Paldea) after its debut generation.

  • @ice_cream_melt
    @ice_cream_melt Жыл бұрын

    I love how Cryogonal was able to learn Attract despite being genderless. Always felt like a weird pick to get it. Then Gen 8 removed that... That's sad

  • @zerobeta91
    @zerobeta91 Жыл бұрын

    I was just looking for this video the other day! I’m glad you made it 😂

  • @magicalhikari5859
    @magicalhikari5859 Жыл бұрын

    Did not know Cryogonal has such a versatile moveset tbh

  • @asuuki2048
    @asuuki2048 Жыл бұрын

    I really want a Meloetta episode ;~;

  • @nolanj.3897
    @nolanj.3897 Жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how consistently good this channel has been over the years

  • @v.i.pflame7607
    @v.i.pflame7607 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly i really like cryogonal a lot, its really nice to see it get somewhat better in gen 9 still holding out for an evolution for it.

  • @ZetroFox9274

    @ZetroFox9274

    Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonals great and it's weirdly one of the only pokemon I've seen that has gotten pretty much no fans yet no haters at the same time.

  • @floresarmando4318
    @floresarmando4318 Жыл бұрын

    I love cryo 😍. Definitely on my top 3 pokemon list ❄️. Since it is like a mirror, it would be awesome if it had an ability that reflects special attacks (weaker) everytime it is hit by them

  • @Jikkuryuu

    @Jikkuryuu

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a cool idea, like Rough Skin but for Special moves instead of Contact moves!

  • @thatunknownguy7706

    @thatunknownguy7706

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe instead of special moves, it could be specific like “light” moves Said moves would be like Moonblast, solar beam/blade, dark pulse and dazzling Gleam. This’ll probably make cryogonal a good fairy counter since it is also the light type in a sense, while also helping with pokemon who usually need help with these moves.

  • @floresarmando4318

    @floresarmando4318

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thatunknownguy7706 I love it! And makes sense!

  • @bobsmith8405
    @bobsmith8405 Жыл бұрын

    After watching the Kyurem movie it's nice to see Kyurem has an army of these guys to keep watch for him.

  • @profes6447
    @profes6447 Жыл бұрын

    So happy we get to see gen 9 footage now. Terrastalization brings back so much hope for some mons. Love the content.

  • @clash_king1025
    @clash_king1025 Жыл бұрын

    Surprised you didn’t mention cryogonal learns attract when mentioning weird moves it learns Not the only genderless Pokémon that can learn attract for some reason, but the most iconic

  • @Mugenman88
    @Mugenman88 Жыл бұрын

    14:12 you list Toxic on it's moveset but Cryogonal currently cannot use Toxic in any way in gen 9, it's a Home only move and even then we're not sure if it'll stay on the moveset if transferred over

  • @suryav1397
    @suryav1397 Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal could be interesting with Terastal - specially bulky in a solid speed tier that can go Tera Electric to give it 0 weaknesses and it gets bolt beam coverage with Ice Beam/Blizzard and Tera Blast. Basically, Tera Ice Regieleki at home. That bad phys def is still concerning, but in a meta where there's a ton of nasty special attackers running around it could be a pretty interesting albeit niche pick. Edit: this thing could be a sleeper pick as a Gholdengo resist in VGC. Check out these calcs with almost 0 investment in spdef 252 SpA Life Orb Tera Steel Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Electric Cryogonal: 133-157 (44.1 - 52.1%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO

  • @arhardar6873

    @arhardar6873

    Жыл бұрын

    Does the damage calculation consider that Make it Rain drops Gholdengo's special attack stat by 1 stage after the move inflicts damage?

  • @suryav1397

    @suryav1397

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arhardar6873 Nope. So with that + no nasty plot it's guaranteed to never be a 2HKO unless there's a crit

  • @markerthemark
    @markerthemark Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal ain't crying despite it's name too just like it's movepool.

  • @earlsaverson5387
    @earlsaverson5387 Жыл бұрын

    I always found it fascinating that the Stealth Rock-weak mon was able to hang as one of the best Spinners while spinning was relevant. Really felt like an underdog story. The creepy ice face would normally not be on my radar, but they really put in the work. Respect.

  • @Slop_Dogg
    @Slop_Dogg Жыл бұрын

    i don’t care about all the specific mechanics and stats or w/e but I always forget this Pokémon exists. it’s like a redesigned Glalie.

  • @kierantaylor7513
    @kierantaylor7513 Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this video for my entire life

  • @snappee
    @snappee Жыл бұрын

    one of my top favourites (dont ask why), i've been anticipating this video for a while

  • @TheHero136
    @TheHero136 Жыл бұрын

    This is a Pokémon I always like having in random battles. Not just because of rapid spin but because it forces the opponent to reveal physical attackers. So it works pretty well as a win condition once you account for those physical attackers.

  • @Deadflower019
    @Deadflower019 Жыл бұрын

    Yes the infamous Unreciprocated Love Pokémon.

  • @GWFanSoftcoreBrony
    @GWFanSoftcoreBrony Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal has always been one of those Pokemon that feels like it should be better than it ends up being. I loved it back when I first played Black, but of course in the regular game you don't have to worry about opponents having any EVs or move sets that make sense.

  • @lordofyggdrasil9633
    @lordofyggdrasil9633 Жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this video for so long, cryogonal goated

  • @justinkunheeyi
    @justinkunheeyi Жыл бұрын

    Now the REAL tea is jamming tf out to the Twist Mountain theme while hunting for this thing

  • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
    @henriquecarballoaranha9100 Жыл бұрын

    Kinda wished this guy got Snow Warning in Gen 9. Would actually be a pretty interesting Snow setter as that patches up its bad Defense stat and its Speed allows it to get up Aurora Veil pretty easily

  • @ekonthungcyrusngullie4391

    @ekonthungcyrusngullie4391

    Жыл бұрын

    This makes so much sense. It's literally a snow.

  • @bluebaron6811
    @bluebaron6811 Жыл бұрын

    When I was little, I always thought it had just one singular eye. I only learned it had 2 eyes after looking at its face a bit more.

  • @Jaffersin
    @Jaffersin Жыл бұрын

    Was just trying and failing to shiny hunt one of these during an outbreak, thanks for the consolation.

  • @longbeing
    @longbeing Жыл бұрын

    Update: as of Jan 10 2023, Terastalization stands as-is and Cryogonal is in RU. Showdown is currently rolling out each tier month-by-month from the top down, so that may play a part in its temporary high tiering. Cryogonal didn’t get enough usage in December to justify it staying in UU.

  • @megadudetp
    @megadudetp Жыл бұрын

    This Pokémon always interested me, I always wondered why it wasn’t part ghost or even water

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Жыл бұрын

    Man, it's tragic how centralizing hazards & by extension, Heavy-Duty Boots were. Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @Creepy___
    @Creepy___ Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal was one of the first batch of competitive Pokemon I ever got back then when I started. I know I traded for one because I was thinking "haha funny snowflake" but I actually kinda fell in love with it. I still have it today. It's actually one of my favorite pokemon ever now

  • @Cool-Vest_Leo
    @Cool-Vest_Leo Жыл бұрын

    I'm planning on running an aurora veil set against my friend eventually. The snow combined with aurora veil should shore up it's defense sufficiently.

  • @thatjacoblaye
    @thatjacoblaye Жыл бұрын

    Loved this thing in Gen 8 OU. Was very nice to switch this thing into Lando earthquakes and being able to force a switch out. Turns out, Specs ice beam is REALLY strong

  • @themega108
    @themega108 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a video about how some people would buff lower-tier mons. I've seen a ton of people playing radical red and I love how they've boosted some weak mons and made them relevant

  • @annaangelic2318
    @annaangelic2318 Жыл бұрын

    Super cool that Cryogonal was in Subzero Used in Gen 8 briefly. ZU taking it when it already had Articuno was painful.

  • @galvsparks6295

    @galvsparks6295

    Жыл бұрын

    Man I'm really interested in subzero used, do you have stuff to recommend for such content ?

  • @tedscheett9420
    @tedscheett9420 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot a crucial move in Cyrogonal's toolkit: Attract.

  • @christophertancinco3052
    @christophertancinco3052 Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Finally a How GOOD was video about my brother's favorite ice type.

  • @OmegaMacling
    @OmegaMacling Жыл бұрын

    Yooo one of my favorites let's goo

  • @gamermanzeake
    @gamermanzeake Жыл бұрын

    I was absolutely not expecting that gen nine glow up! There's an example of that actually occurring FSG.

  • @ShukakuTheCrazy1
    @ShukakuTheCrazy1 Жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking if I were to improve it I'd bump up it's HP to 100, then swap its attack and defense stats. Not the best, but still a good improvement

  • @animagamer2
    @animagamer2 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think you're exactly right about the point at the start- about it not making sense for Cryogonal to learn certain moves, and if it seems that way then I think it's intentional. Game freak is using your intuition to suggest something unique about Cryogonal and I'd love to get into it more because I think it gets into an interesting point about Pokemon Biology. So first off, why I think it makes sense that Cryogonal can learn a lot of beam moves such as Ice Beam, Solar Beam, Hyper Beam, and Flash Cannon. The last one may seem a bit contentious, but if you look at how Flash Cannon has been depicted in the anime it's always been a Beam-type move. Basically, I think this is Game Freak saying that something about Cryogonal makes it uniquely good at learning Beam Type moves- even ones you'd think an Ice-type pokemon wouldn't be able to learn. Which I think is a super cool way to add uniqueness to a Pokemon and subtly world build using the game mechanics. As to why it can learn a move like Poison Jab, well, why can Arbok or Gastly? What are they Jabbing with? What about Pinoco or Fortress for that matter- Pokemon with similar shape compositions to Cryogonal that also learn Poison Jab. See, a lot of times with Pokemon I think the moves are more like vague descriptions of what's happening rather than literal moves that a Judo Master would teach you- like an Arm Triangle. Let's just ignore the fact that they are literal move tutors in the game for a bit and hear me out. Basically, I think all that's required for a Pokemon to learn Poison Jab is the ability to coak an extremity in poison- either through natural or telekinetic means- and then quickly strike and pull back, a jab if you will. I think Cryogonal meets all those requirements, so to me, it makes sense that it can learn Poison Jab. Now, this is where we get into a lot of interesting biology implications. For example, if these are the only requirements for a Pokemon to be able to learn the move, then why are there so many Pokemon that meet the requirements but don't learn the move? I think there are a couple of interesting explanations that would potentially get into Evolutionary biology and it probably has something to do its innatenaite ability to learn Acid Armor. You can also get into regional revolutionary biology from there to explain why certain Pokemon learn new moves and lose the ability to learn new ones in different regions. All of that is quite a bit out of my depth though, but I think it's a super interesting topic of discussion and I'd love to see *someone* get into more one day. All this to say, I know it was just a little blurb at the start, but it makes a lot more sense if you think about it a bit!

  • @bladearmorginga6582
    @bladearmorginga6582 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly always loved cryogonal, I’d love to see it get a unique move or maybe a regional variant if not an evolution.

  • @bostik4790
    @bostik4790 Жыл бұрын

    You should do clawitzer next :D

  • @bryantbodnar
    @bryantbodnar Жыл бұрын

    I watched a Let’s Play of Black where the guy caught a Cryogonal for his team, and it was able to take a Fire Blast from the Hydreigon that you fight at the end. It had red health and got burned, but it survived enough to use Light Screen.

  • @rifk_
    @rifk_ Жыл бұрын

    fun fact about obscure side grades of metagames! cryogonal was actually viable in mnm ag due to its speed tier (makes it the fastest sheer cold user) while also having spin recover AND a sheer cold immunity. you may say alolan ninetails is faster which it is BUT can alolan ninetails recover? or spin? didnt think so

  • @dntremad8290
    @dntremad8290 Жыл бұрын

    You know that FSG has changed A LOT when his Typhlosion video talked about how sad it was that it was in RU in gen 5 but this video talks about Cryogonal being really good in RU as a very positive fact

  • @samamies88

    @samamies88

    Жыл бұрын

    Could be either because channel has matured to understand wider array of meta tiers or maybe its because Typho was compared to Charizard (which was often on higher tiers) while Cryo got compared to other ice types (which rarely compete well) - so one was outperformed thus in sad state and another did better than their type generally which is seen as an good thing?

  • @dntremad8290

    @dntremad8290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samamies88 I think it's the first scenario, FSG's earlier videos were more about OU and ubers anything below was usually seen as a failure. Honestly this makes me want a remake on all FSG pre-2019 videos

  • @N12015

    @N12015

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dntremad8290 Honestly it makes me miss those videos. I definitely prefer when he focus on the negatives until it finds a home rather than ignoring the fact is not very good. Also the "straight to the point" style he had instead of tons of filler about the tier instead of the mon per se.

  • @dmgaxel8294
    @dmgaxel8294 Жыл бұрын

    Kyurem's morning cereal

  • @naturalharmoniagropius4486
    @naturalharmoniagropius4486 Жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine the re-remake of Dragonite video, knowing it got banned to Ubers as of this moment.

  • @LordRumshi
    @LordRumshi6 ай бұрын

    Flash cannon and solar beam could be from how Cryogonal is a floating snowflake, to where it can kind of reflect/absorb light so it is able to use moves likes those but not in the same way as Pokémon such as Venasaur and Aggron. While night slash could be from how Cryogonal can spin its body very quickly and can cut an opponent from that method.

  • @devranyilmaz9806
    @devranyilmaz9806 Жыл бұрын

    Well, as for why it can use certain moves; Night Slash - it has sharp edges, so it can cut Solar Beam - it is reflective, thus it can manipulate light and therefore can use Solar Beam Flash Cannon - same reason as above, except it’s a Steel-type move this time

  • @davidpotts7116
    @davidpotts7116 Жыл бұрын

    Poison jab and night slash I don’t really know why it learns, but for solarbeam and flash cannon I suspect it has to do with a phenomenon called “snow blindness.” UV rays from the sun get reflected off the snow, causing damage to the eyes and can temporarily confuse/blind someone. This is especially common in areas where the air density is lesser, such as in the mountains and tundras where Cryogonal live.

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 Жыл бұрын

    I Love Cryogonal's Voice in the Anime

  • @kyng8156
    @kyng8156 Жыл бұрын

    I really want to see in like 3-5 years a video about Gholdengo, i wonder how thst would be.

  • @squidlord9110
    @squidlord9110 Жыл бұрын

    one thing FSG did not mention, is that if you give cryo assault vest and invest even a decent amount into special defense, you can like 2 specs fire blast from chandelure and if you tera into fire with similar stats with tera blast fire you can wall goldengho

  • @BabusGameRoom
    @BabusGameRoom Жыл бұрын

    omg, an Ice type Terestawhateverallizing into a Steel type? I love it!!

  • @popsikern5848
    @popsikern5848 Жыл бұрын

    Yay my favorite pokemon is finally here!

  • @monkweirdo
    @monkweirdo Жыл бұрын

    I always loved cryogonal, its design is so siple yet amazing, and of course ice being my favourite type helps too In Scarlet, right after beating the ice type gym, a shiny Cryogonal spawned in front of it, tho true it became the least useful member in my team :D

  • @floofzykitty5072
    @floofzykitty5072 Жыл бұрын

    I love terastalising my Cryogonal into Electric to have boltbeam coverage and only has a weakness vs ability ignores, and steel is also great for the resists + only fire weakness

  • @Weebdotexe
    @Weebdotexe Жыл бұрын

    right now, I'm using chilly reception to aurora veil, with a sheer force cetitan, testing it out right now, I'll keep you updated on how it fends itself EDIT: 1300 on showdown DUU

  • @fishboi2610
    @fishboi2610 Жыл бұрын

    Cryogonal was actually pretty good in SS ZU, but that tier isn't normally covered.

  • @damnprivacy3579
    @damnprivacy3579 Жыл бұрын

    Funky_Bustdwn put a link at the end of a twitch stream to bring me here! Thanks for the assessment ❄

  • @alejandropetit6573
    @alejandropetit6573 Жыл бұрын

    One of those weird pokemon I used as niche options that can check garchomp and nothing else, I weirdly love this mon

  • @SylentVoidkeeper
    @SylentVoidkeeper Жыл бұрын

    Yay, my favorite Pokemon! Finally! (Honestly, I think this thing would be better if it had Earth Power. I've run a fun assault vest set with this thing).

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 Жыл бұрын

    With the new hail buff to ice types boosting defence I’d like to see if it becomes a bulky offensive pokemon on hail teams. Also give it ice scales as a hidden ability

  • @sosams
    @sosams Жыл бұрын

    I remember Cryogonal from being in Chuggaconroy's team on Pokémon White!

  • @thunderrebel821
    @thunderrebel821 Жыл бұрын

    I have always been a fan of Cryogonal,and knowing that in early gen 9,it is at UU for the time being,makes me happy

  • @rotomRASENGAN
    @rotomRASENGAN Жыл бұрын

    I’m still wondering if this is the year you’ll finally tackle Landorus. The question is, how will you tackle it? Will he be grouped with the other Forces of Nature? Or with the other members of CHALK? (Including a Kangaskhan remake video?)

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 Жыл бұрын

    Hard to get used a lot when weak to stealth rocks and only one defensive resistance. Getting introduced in Gen 5 the generation known for weather and power creep hurt too

  • @hasechoward2928
    @hasechoward2928 Жыл бұрын

    As a genius thing though, this pokemon is bonkers in gen 9 with Terra electric. An absolute unsuspected destroyer of ou that has been slept on

  • @markrenton6174
    @markrenton6174 Жыл бұрын

    I see it as the special version of avalugg, but as spinner, i prefer cryogonal since makes better use of terastalization and recover thanks to its speed, and if you use snow weather it can take some physical attack with it doubling def now, of course avalugg becomes a brutal body presser under snow with tera fight, but being hazard removal its main job, levitate and speed get the win for me, also recover is way more useful in a fast mon and allows for not using boots since spikes don't affect it anyways and if you force a switch out u can take 2 turns of leftovers recovery and even swap recover for protect (thus getting 3 turns recovery and minimizing rocks damage)

  • @benpeterson4673
    @benpeterson4673 Жыл бұрын

    I can't explain the others, but I think that Solar Beam is Cryogonal functioning like a magnifying glass to focus the sun's light, and it's something similar for Flash Cannon.

  • @vinnyfiorino9003
    @vinnyfiorino9003 Жыл бұрын

    When I was younger I always thought cryogonal was a cyclops. The black in between the two blue dots always seemed like it’s eye to me

  • @chrisrozier3123
    @chrisrozier3123 Жыл бұрын

    Yes! How Good Was How Good Was vids are back in roll

  • @beandrag9019
    @beandrag9019 Жыл бұрын

    Such a cool mon

  • @pineapple8375
    @pineapple8375 Жыл бұрын

    oo nice cryogonal is one of those pokemon that isnt quite a lot of peoples' favourites but we all still really like

  • @drakejohnson5386
    @drakejohnson5386 Жыл бұрын

    How good was trick room/tailwind in both VGC and singles?

  • @drios97
    @drios97 Жыл бұрын

    Do a video on how good was Pyroar next.

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