So glad Stephanie spoke up against those people that try to intimidate her with their "unwavering devotion" to this demon spawn

@caramelprincess521

12 күн бұрын

That's what I love about her she is always on the victims side and will use her platform to speak for those who can't.

@OfficialAwkbe

12 күн бұрын

​@@caramelprincess521 Let's not forget that she stood up for Kim Sang Kyo in her video about the Burning Sun and deemed him a hero when he's the one who s*xually assaulted multiple women in the club.

@duskripper6650

11 күн бұрын

*demon spawn but yes, totally agree.

@_a4ng3el_

11 күн бұрын

She literally defended the main man a serial rapist idgaf she deserves it plus we’ve known about hara helping for years she was probably just to lazy to look I’m sick of people leaching of her name

@silverfoxdemon9292

10 күн бұрын

@@duskripper6650 was waiting for someone to save me the effort of spelling it correctly jajksjsk

Thank goodness Stephanie called out these Seungri stans.

@natkat4381

12 күн бұрын

I remember one of them claimed they were making a document that proves his innocence so I asked to see it and they never replied. 😂

@Prags0

10 күн бұрын

Right. No one should be a blind fan of anybody. It literally scares me what if the ones I'm supporting are not the same they present themselves.

@claire4212

9 күн бұрын

@@natkat4381 they ain’t gonna do it lmao :)))

i dont understand how the 19 year old get hate for dating older man but the older man doesn't get hate for dating a young girl

@niraxlevi9930

Күн бұрын

Misogyny cause apparently everything wrong in the world is women's fault and men are just poor victims

Stephanie is so visibly and rightfully enraged talking about this. Never idolise anyone, even the nicest people can turn out to be monsters behind closed doors.

The hosts of the show treating Goo Hara like that and being surprised about her crying is like people stabbing someone with a knife and being surprised about them bleeding. Like: You didn't expect her to be human and have feelings or what? You thought that "no" meant "yes"?

@c0zycherry

10 күн бұрын

that's exactly what they thought... they were like the kinds of provokers who keep on pushing and pushing and pushing but when others fight back, they're surprised and cry abuse like "why are you like this, i didn't do anything to you" the manipulation and gaslighting is REAL with this one... fcking disgusting

@randomschoko1323

10 күн бұрын

@@c0zycherry Absolutely. Total disgusting douchebags. Hope they feel really bad after she passed away. :/

@Nanda_ares

6 күн бұрын

That show has been known to ask controversy rumors and often making the situation uncomfortable and if they get called out they pulled out the " I'm a senior, I'm older and this is how the industry works" cards. Somehow the show is still running with the same host right now

RIP to these beautiful souls 💔 🙏 😢 Sully Hara

@imanigrant8575

12 күн бұрын

😭😭😭😭 it’s hurts so much for what they been through they didn’t deserve that at all 💔💔💔💔😢😢😢😢

Its the cold fact that people hate on the average nice kpop idol for just dating/having a life. But when someone like Hyuna who was a beloved idol albeit w/ a controversial career is openly dating someone involved in the burning sun scandal the general consensus is " Oh, that so like her" and they collectively move on like????

@alemaakther1357

12 күн бұрын

Thank you someone has a brain hyna is dating a crimal yet people will all say he only saw it happen he wasn't involved like its any better

@ayoayo1044

12 күн бұрын

@@alemaakther1357 they're getting married now too and he came out with an "apology", wicked business

@alemaakther1357

12 күн бұрын

@@ayoayo1044 he apologised on insta

@saskiaskye_

12 күн бұрын

Truly devious business ​@@ayoayo1044

@haerinialive

12 күн бұрын

All I see online is people attacking Hyuna, she can’t even sell her tickets for her concert anymore because of lack of sales or something.

I was in my full kpop era when this happened. Hara and Sulli dying made me migrate out of full stan-dom. That whole line of idols was cursed, man. This happening changed the way I interact with pop culture in all countries.

@saskiaskye_

12 күн бұрын

Those few years or period in kpop was so fucking devastating and just broke me

@ash-qu33n

12 күн бұрын

​@@saskiaskye_ So true, lost so many "friends" that defended those monsters. They still support them and even tried to go to those establishments, it's just sick. 2016 was wyld fr.

@robynbrowne1277

11 күн бұрын

bruh i just new to kpop and i was like wtf is happening

@cheshireneko9381

6 күн бұрын

I remember this happening around the time I really got into Kpop, I was just in shock cause at the time it was labeled a s**cide. Now… I’m just angry

It took me some time to even get my anger to subside..

Goo hara was literally all my teenage years i grew up with her I'm 27 now and i won't let this go

I watched this short where a lawyer said about Korea legal system: If you and a guy has issues and you do several bad things and the guy does one thing, the law is on his side. If he’s the one that does several bad thing and you do one bad thing, the law is still on his side

@saskiaskye_

12 күн бұрын

Wtf 💀the legal system is trash 🗑 😒

@s_ha2084

12 күн бұрын

unfortunately, it's like this a lot of the time in the states too

@reshmashrestha5694

11 күн бұрын

​@@saskiaskye_ South Korean legal system is the biggest joke honestly. I still can't wrap my head around how all the burning sun scandal perpetrators are living life peacefully out of prison when their victims have to live with the trauma forever.

@ArtIsDrawing

10 күн бұрын

@@reshmashrestha5694 And people say this place is paradise because of kpop!

@reshmashrestha5694

10 күн бұрын

@@ArtIsDrawing Exactly. Lots of girls want to visit korea because of how these kdrama and entertainment agencies portray korean men but looking at these kinds of cases and their judicial system it gives me chills.

goo hara's video made me even more angry than the first burning sun video... the RAGE i felt for the injustice she experienced...

Am gonna say it for you as Stephanie say “i hope common sense finds you” 😂

F bullies, i hate bullies, they are terrible people...

@vlad5042

11 күн бұрын

"bullies" is a bit of a mild descriptor in this case

What's crazy is that seungri is opening another club in a different state now that's what i heard but i don't know if its true.

@aa-bq3qp

12 күн бұрын

yes he's been seeking investors to open one in Cambodia

@hollymeoww

12 күн бұрын

yeah in cambodia i think, where they have VERY poor laws protecting women and children

@otashu26

5 күн бұрын

@@hollymeoww Yeah, Seungri knows what he’s doing. I cannot. 😒

And the worst part of this the former member of Drug Restaurant is in my city Lyon, France right now, he was seen in bars/clubs, he approached a girl and gave her his IG. Apparently he wants to open a restaurant here in my city, and he also plans to fly to Switzerland as well. So to my fellow French people, be careful out there please ⚠️ Update: He knows that we know he’s in our city and blocked the girl from his IG and deleted all his pics. And he had the audacity to say why we told people out there about him like that he just wanted to make friends here 🤡

@BBBunny11

11 күн бұрын

That is so terrifying, this is proof that the justice system failed

@duskripper6650

11 күн бұрын

Now that they've been exposed in Korea, the perpetrators seem to just be moving on to do the same thing in other countries where the general public doesn't know who they are. It's sickening

@tuesdaysgon

11 күн бұрын

Glad to see your update, these sickos need to know NO REST. Keep boots on thier necks.

@ArtIsDrawing

10 күн бұрын

He should open up somewhere ghetto, so he can get a taste of his own medicine!

@hueningpie

8 күн бұрын

help what did he think was gonna happen? that the case was only known in Korea? Like kpop isn't worldwide... that digital footprints don't exist? It would take literally a 5 second google search to figure out he's a terrible disgusting person. He needs to actually be locked up fr and treated like a prisoner, instead of an innocent child who doesn't deserve consequences. Why is he even allowed to do this...!!! I know countries can't intervene in cases like these but I feel like it should be a law. Like if there's genuinely a terrible criminal and the justice system is doing barely anything about to detain and prison him, others should be allowed to get involved. It's ridiculous

I have to say this.I am actually so scared for the new young kids debuting...people have blurred the line between criticism and hate....that girl wonhee is a child and people are calling her an attention wh*ore for using her crutches wrong....the lesserafim hate has gotten out of hand...the wony hate train has died down quite a bit now but the hate she got and still gets is insane....and has happened for years in kpop..leave the adults bro even minors... Kookie,tzuyu,yeri....so many kids...it hurts my heart

@hueningpie

8 күн бұрын

ikkr it actually is so sad 😭 and kpop fans (even western ones) try to justify it as criticism. They are just kids ....

it is sooo rare to see stephanie this mad about comments on a video, baby don’t play with her, look at the size of that bed behind her, she ain’t playing games this is her job 😅

@Lav_Pixie2007

11 күн бұрын

I hope common sense finds you soon took me OUT

I always saw the hatred to Sulli as really jealous and petty people who were projecting their insecurities unto Sulli. They HATED seeing her thrive, be unapologetically herself and that shit got them FURIOUS. I've had a personal issue will all knetz since then, know they're not all the same, but I just can't fathom the way some of them have this unapproachable perfectionism they hold idols against that I just can't fight against my hatred to them.

@jazzyfacts

11 күн бұрын

the hatred sulli received wasnt jealousy it was because of MISOGYNY. all the hate she got was fueled by misogyny, esp because of the no bra movement. and as a meu i can assure you it wasn't just knetz, if you look at all the hate comments she would receive at the time, both koreans and internationals were slut shaming her and calling her crazy.

may she rest in paradise 😭💔

I was waiting for u to watch this because i didn't wanna watch this by my self

@imanigrant8575

12 күн бұрын

Me either

@ShedowKitty

12 күн бұрын

Same here, I knew this will wreck me emotionally.

@imanigrant8575

12 күн бұрын

@@ShedowKitty yea it’s a hard pill to swallow

2017-2018 was literal hell for everyone in the industry and we lost so many kind souls to terrible and toxic hate it was so emotionally devastating and draining.

My anger issues is one of the reasons why I could never be a kpop idol

Repeating what I said 5 years ago, I hate Choi Jong-Bum, the hosts of Radio Star, and those netizen's so much. RIP Choi Jin-ri (Sulli) and Goo Hara (Hara) 🌺🌺

I love Stephanie so much. So glad she called out these crazed fans.

It is a shame that many people have chosen to ignore the horendous crimes commited by the people involved in the Burning Sun scandal. Hyuna one of Goo Hara's "friends" is now hooked up with one of the chat room scum bags Yong Junhyung. I will say it over and over, she doesn't seem to have a brian cell left in her head. 32 years old you'd think she would know right from wrong. She should know Money doesn't buy you Love or Intelligence! What a disgrace! They deserve each other! I cannot and never will understand how these people walk free to commit the same crimes over again. Thank you, Thank you for this one!!

Hyuna is getting married I feel sick in the stomach thinking I ever listened to her songs...

@chappyllama4445

11 күн бұрын

Why

@Oklmaooo

10 күн бұрын

@@chappyllama4445cause hyuna is always known as being a voice for woman’s empowerment but she is now dating yong-jun hyung who was also involved in burning sun scandal . And ofc she knows the details about this scandal but still acts blind to it. Which is heinous and makes me wanna throw up

@ayowut5154

10 күн бұрын

@@Oklmaooo it's not even if she was a raging feminist or not(that makes it even worse) ...even a decent human being would not be in a relationship with someone who admitted to watching those disgusting videos and staying silent knowing everything...

@Oklmaooo

10 күн бұрын

@@ayowut5154 what a disgusting person tbh. Even after knowing everything and still marrying this guy

I hope these weirdos who were determined to bully these women for no reason whatsoever know they have blood on their hands. If they even care about that, that is. Obviously so does everyone involved in the burning sun, from the employees to the idols and VIPs, but I hope the people who went after the victims remember what they did whenever they're trying to get some sleep.

@manikaghimire-bh6hg

9 күн бұрын

Do you really think if they care they would have done that 😀

SULI,GO HARA,JONGHYUNG ... all mega kpop stars who took their lives . all of them SUPER TALENTED, LOVING.. THEY DIDN'T DESERVE THIS ENDING EVER.. THOSE WHO DESERVE THIS ENDING ARE THOSE DISGUSTING MEN FROM THE BURNING SUN CASE. MAINLY SEUNGRI'S ..that there are still fans who defend this monster

@gabOT799

12 күн бұрын

AND RECENT A MEMBER OF THE GROUP ..ASTRO (who took his life too)

@saskiaskye_

12 күн бұрын

​@gabOT799 Moonbin my love .... all them are my loves beautiful angels RIP 🙏 ❤ FUCK ALL THOSE ASS WIPES WHO CAUSED THEM PAIN 😤

@gabOT799

12 күн бұрын

@@saskiaskye_ YES..wow, during Jonghyung's time I GOT SO BAD...it seemed like someone in my family had done it. GO HARA IS AN ANGEL, HE HELPED SO MUCH..So sweet...she didn't deserve any of that

@skzoutsold5106

11 күн бұрын

@@gabOT799 didn’t he pass because of a illness?

@mayzaiz

11 күн бұрын

It's always the sweetest people that get hurt the most

1:22:59 I'll sum it up in one word- misogyny

I agree that domestic violence is wrong. But if a person has to resort to violence to defend themselves from domestic violence it might look like the victim is the abuser when they're not. So it's important to look at all the evidence before making a possibly wrong judgement. (It's especially problematic to assume that the victim has to be a perfect victim i.e. never having done anything wrong themselves because that can easily result in not taking victims seriously and treating them like they "had it coming" just because they are humanly flawed or morally gray people.) Also abusers can be clever in manipulating not just the victim but also the people around (e.g. media etc.), especially when they are in a position of power, to discredit the victim and prevent them from getting help/getting out of the situation. (I'm referring to the boyfriend of Goo Hara claiming that she attacked him because of being jealous.)

i miss goo hara so much. i remember listening to her sweet voice when i was a kid i can't watch the documentary yet.,

I’m just speechless I was witnessing this when it was happening (as a teenager surprisingly) and it still doesn’t feel like it actually happened

The only thing that still bothers me in this whole situation, is how the very same people who harrassed Sulli and Hara, are now the very same harrassing Hyuna for not being more "like them". I too, hate that Hyuna chose a guy that, at best is a coward, and at worst case scenario a possible criminal, BUT... Once again, it's the female Idol getting the heat and hate mail, instead of the dude. It's so hypocritical and disgusting.

I watched Rotten Mango’s episode halfway and I couldn’t continue because of how devastating her situation was. I thought if I watched a reaction channel I can stomach it knowing there’s someone watching it with me, and I did, but now I’m crying so hard. It was hard to watch but thank you for reacting to it, I think it’s disgusting how these criminals are out still partying and about while their victims lose their lives and dignities.

I cried so hard when I first watched this yesterday

just listened to the last part of audio version on Spotify yesterday and i was DESTROYED, i thought it the first vid months ago was heartbreaking enough but knowing more and more abt the sheer number of lives affected and even taken by those disgusting, vile, demons, creatures of the swamp makes me sick. and i don't mean just the perpetrators but also those that inevitably contributed to how sulli and hara was pushed to their limits, their audacity and hypocrisy baffles me, im still vibrating w anger tbh

I'm so tired about this but here I say again; Seungri fans, please identify yourselves as SEUNGRI FANS ONLY. Don't bring up ot5 or VIPs anymore. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT Y'ALL. And bigbang members don't care about him either. But bc they use the VIP identity, people are still associating him w current bigbang members, just like what seungri is still doing. Please I need them to shut up and seperate themselves from the fandom. They're the reason bigbang members could barely back in the industry. I'm honestly so tired of them

Fighting back is easier said than done sometimes, especially when you grow up with it. For me, it took my husband stepping in to help me leave my abusive home. I frequently say he saved me in more ways than 1. He not only got me out of the situation but also taught me how to save myself. Now i help others that want to leave or just simply need to know that there's someone that understands

It's shameless how korea netizens always bully and hate comments toward female idols.

These harassments by netizens who call themselves 'K-pop fans' are why I refuse to call myself one and stick to just referring to myself as a fan of BTS. You as a K-pop fan are never entitled to the idol's personal life and just because they chose a life as a celebrity doesn't mean they should endure all the hate they receive. It always makes me sick when netizens call themselves K-pop fans but are willing to go after an idol just because they are in a relationship. It is also so twisted how men and women get different treatment on news networks and social media.

Dude I'm glad you're reacting to this, after all this time I just can't watch/hear it by myself, thank you fr

I couldn’t even finish watching this part 2 video cuz I couldn’t stop crying. This world is so evil. We need to spread kindness. As cheesy as that sounds… 😭😭😭

i remember the day when goo hara apologized after her first attempt. nothing in the realm of kpop made me as angry as her apology before and nothing after that day. the fact that she had to apologize for hurting herself is bonkers, truly wild, grotesque in a way. i know that idols have to apologize for every little thing but for something like this?? i hope that she found peace, she was so so brave

Godbless these two Beautiful Angels, R,I,P, and to all the other Victims of this Scandel and other Scandels, I STAND WITH YOU ❤.

burning sun and the story of junko furuta genuinely make me burn with female rage.

Go hara we always love u , rest in peace.

Idk about eye for an eye but I know these monsters should NEVER see the light of day outside of prison again. With the power, connection, money they still have they are almost guaranteed re-offenders

This case is still blowing my mind. I’m really glad to see that people all over the world are learning more about this case.

It’s sad that the evil control the world especially the entertainment industry

I was like waiting for your reaction on this

God this was a hard watch... this industry, this world, is just so toxic and dangerous... these girls did not deserve all of this pain, I can only pray that their abusers suffer infinitely for what they have done.....

It's hard to believe these things are still happening in this day and age. It's 2024, and it's really sickening. What's even worse is that his supporters are still backing him, saying that it's just how men behave and that we should forget about it and move on. Like be for fcking real. This shit ain't normal to be normalized..

@lalalalisa41

8 күн бұрын

If this happened to them or someone they knew, they would not be saying such a thing honestly. The complete disrespect and disregard for the victims is just atrocious....

Seb, I hope you know that any abuse you suffered at the hands of a partner is horrible and you aren't weak for dealing with it. People who can inflict harm on others (outside of self defense) are not humans in my mind, but monsters. And to do that to a person you share you're time with the most, makes you worse than a monster, scum, etc. Also don't worry, you were thinking like a good person, for considering CJ was a victim in that (also the fact you didn't get the whole story). That makes you a good person, because you earnestly wanted to think of the good in someone.. ❤❤❤

28:41 you aren’t dumb! He’s twisting the narrative in a convoluted way. Basically his statement was saying that they made a s*x tape, consensually, as a joke and he immediately deleted at that time; now, he and his gf were fighting and she went to the police to report him for this video to get revenge. That’s why the attorney called the tech girl and told her “just say you didn’t find anything” because that would support his statement that the video she reported was deleted. And then he said she withdrew the charges to make it seem like she had lied and filed a false report out of spite, when in reality she withdrew the charges because she was intimidated into withdrawing them.

The fact that I had became a kpop Stan DECEMBER that year that the Burning sun was exposed and I’m just finding this out is breaking me…

I agree... It's like they are crazy with power. 🤢🤮

and then the Korean netizens pushed her to her death

sex addiction can be very harmful and destructive HOWEVER to shame someone for it is fucking wild 😭 especially bc the allegations against her for having a sex addiction are so baseless?? what are they on

@rhiannas.9151

11 күн бұрын

also when i mean destructive and harmful i mean in regard to mental health and maintaining relationships (both romantic and platonic). there’s no shame in liking sex or expressing oneself sexually. i mean more in regards to literal addition to sex where someone lacks impulse control

it is honestly so sad especially because i don´t think people have actually learned anything about this situation in regard to online hate, i´ve seen very similar comments that hara and sulli used to get directed towards idols like wonyoung and irene and so many others that i hope this type of comments don´t catch them in a bad moment, almost everything feels the same

DOMESTIC ABUSE?? watching this unravel with u seb my god

Don’t cry, you going to make me cry. The worst is that these predators are still loved by their delulu fans. Yes they have lost some fans but they have been filmed with fans still cheering for them today. How is this world fair??

46:45 the thing is , I don’t mean this in a negative way , it’s just an explanation, but that’s a very American way to see the situation, I grew up between America and Asia till college , and the two cultures are vastly different , no blaming the older guy , calling her a s3x addict as an insult …those are sadly lenses that come from a conservative rooted culture, purism culture and blaming the women

@dorkistan6344

9 күн бұрын

This literally happens everywhere in the world. Purism culture is everywhere in the world

@Tarikkb

9 күн бұрын

@@dorkistan6344 yea it is but I haven’t seen it being that accepted into the culture in other places I grew up because we would constantly move back forth to California , but maybe that’s because it was California

My other curious-ness is did the other bigbang members know about what was going on? Where they also involved? Where they offered to go to burning sun with seugri but refused? Was there beef between them and seugri when they found out what was going on, like did they have to fake being close?...like i wanna know

@saskiaskye_

12 күн бұрын

Meeee tooooo sis or bro idk 😂 I wanna know the tea

@kamen8361

12 күн бұрын

@saskiaskye_ im a girl 🤣but you can call me bro or sis im fine with either....but same im super curious cause the other members dont seem to be involved or facing backlash, which is good for them if they didnt do anything wrong..but like whats the tea

@muhammadshaheer8934

12 күн бұрын

The other bigbang members knew even yg knew what seungri was doing ,gdragon said that they were uncomfortable due to seungri's constant clubbing and at one time they really decided to talk to him but he didnt listened to them as a result big bang came to an end!!

@YaGurlSunshine

12 күн бұрын

I’m not someone whose ever particularly followed BigBang, but the vibe I got from what everyone’s said is that he was their work friend who they kind of knew was a bit of a creep, but they had no idea how dark it was or how deep it went. From what I’ve heard the members never even particularly liked Seungri, I mean they got along well enough given the amount of time they had to spend together, but they hadn’t even wanted him in the group in the first place- it was down to two people for the final slot in the line up and they all wanted the other guy. I don’t think his ego ever recovered from that tbh, he was always the spare member.

@muhammadshaheer8934

12 күн бұрын

@@YaGurlSunshine yeah technically right but how can bigbang not knew? They were together 24/7 in idol life, they all knew ,most of 2nd gen idol knew that there was a scandal going on!

Correct me if I'm wrong but majority of the comments are from her own country..k nets...and almost all the people who Are still on seungri’s side are also Koreans????

We love goo hara!

This whole burning sun thing is giving diddy…

Sadly, even the loudest online criticism will have no effect on those monsters. Lee Seung-Hyun now in Southeast Asia to run his business, Jung Joon-Young was in there too. The ex-boyfriend who secretly filmed her private video, blackmailed her, beat her until her uterus was damaged was only sentenced to a year, and now doing well after being incognito, those celebrity who was involved in Chamber N and buring sun, they are still active in the Korea entertainment industry, still gain tons of money without any punishment. Her mother never gave her any care, and when she died, she came to fight for the inheritance, but her brother, who tried to fought for her justice, was mistreated by the Korean social media. At this piont, i just dont know how to describe my feeling.

No cuz I didn't even noticed JYP LMAOO he's just everywhere

Steph is the reason why i dont get grazy over my fav idols we dont know who they actually are like

They are fine after came back from jail because they have a strong backing that support them. That's why I hate how South Korea law are so weak. It's to protect male patriarchy, always protect man not woman.

ive been into kpop since 2015 so ive seen a whole lot of shit from the fans towards idols for literally nothing. the dating scandals are basically taboo topic cuz it gets people heated up (and no matter how many times, the women always get it worse). they create a fantasy in their minds, like a "pick me" person, as if the idol they love will pick THEM and love only THEM and how they should stay pure and untouched until they get to THEM. that's why these people are also called "idols" and not singers or musicians etc. it gives this sort of "idolizing" aspect to a whole human being and the company legit sells them off like the ideal version of who they should come off as. they are presented innocent and pure and "perfect" and that's why it's often said how one can't do a certain bad thing cause the idol is oh-so-damn-sweet. (and i am not talking about how it COULD be true that they ARE sweet and whatever. but most of it is still the whole image they sell to mask over the fact that they dont got anything bad or any negative traits on them) majority of my time in kpop has been in shinee, got7 and bts. the amount of toxicity i got exposed to without even searching for it or engaging in anything to have it find my way is fkn too many times. death threats are so easy to spread in such places, it's seriously unhealthy. (major fact why i left kpop alone for 2 yrs to work on _my_ mental health. it is THAT toxic). people take no shame to drag someone, even the idol they preach they love. people should grow some brain and sit the fuck down and see both sides and not just blindly trust with whatever blinded love they got for a human being. many don't realize that and it just gets very deep into obsession and all what comes with it. rest in peace to both of them. they got spat on over and over again and it just never had an end to it. and to even live in fear from your own boyfriend is so fkn scary.

Can any of you remember..I'm sure it was Blackpink that went on a TV show and 1 of the guys smacked 1 of the girls round the head 🤬

i have zero faith in god but i’d really like to believe that hara is in the most beautiful place, she sacrificed so much and went through more then we could even possibly comprehend. her soul should not be forgotten

Goo Hara and Kara helped me get through my school days. So this one hurt me

I met a lawyer at work once. He works in Korea and said: "In Korea men are in the right and above women by the law. A woman can do 1 wrong thing while the man can do one f* up thing after another and they are still on the same level. If you're women and want to move to Korea inform yourself about your rights. Foreign woman are even less protected than the counties own woman." I never romanticize a country and i already knew about these dark sides of Korea but it was still a wake up call for me

Whenever i hear, see this my heart always hurts..

I still remember her last single that came out and falling in absolute love with her. Just her screen presence was so bright and yellow, and then months later reading a news article about her death. Just crushing, so soul crushing.

(re:28-29th min)no the ex was coerced into dropping the charges because she was threatened- that is why, that Kpop idol fronted and said what he said making it seem that the reporter was all shit as well as the ex ! so glad this is still circulating because these 🤡's are out free and she said they tryna make a comeback???tffffff outta here!

I only knew about Goo Hara and her literally fight for the right to exist through IU, being that she was her friend and I am a fan of her. I also knew some other information and all because people luckily still mention the ruthless bullly and list it as one of the main reason for her choice and I could already feel a fraction of the frustration she must have felt. She, even if not directly connected, and the burning sun victims and any woman that walked that club has been failed countless time from the police, the knetz and the media. I am ashamed to say that Dispatch was on the right side of history for once and still people destroied that woman relentlessly and still, she had enough strenght to do the right thing for other women AND STILL the police failed her once more. She was so incredibly strong and to this day, having never stanned her group, or Sulli's I feel such sadness when I think of how cruel people online can me. For every agonising moment they had to face in this world I pray they get a sigh of relief where they are at.

1:58:55 The lack of empathy is horrifying..

I have not been into Kpop that long but trust me when I say this sh.. is not exclusive and the double standard for men and women is the same in real life too, Couple that with the fact that people think they own celebreties and say stuff on social media with no filter or consequences gets you this result, 2 beautiful souls are gone and besides the bad guys in this story, the people that caused the hate etc. for the most part just move on to the next target like nothing happened because they are safe behind a nickname and cannot be held accountable and this will happen again and again till that changes,

I am Korean. I think there is a deeper story in the Goo Hara incident that we haven't been able to reveal. I don't even think the cause of her death was suicide. We cannot believe that the police at the time investigated correctly. This is because the police at the time were in league with the Burning Sun gang and took bribes from them. If the case is investigated properly, the repercussions of the incident will reach all the way to them. I still don't think she committed suicide.

@dukeheavens9990

10 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Kakao Talk is like the Whatsapp of Korea if I'm not mistaken

JYP was also the guest at the show. 1:13:18

I've been binge-watching your rotten mango content for the past week nonstop, I love to hear others' opinions on cases. Could you do a video on the Junko Furuta case, as well as Abby Choi's case?

I was in high school when this happened and everyone in my friend group was silent and sad I remember it was a horrible day because it felt like our faves kept dying back to back 😢I feel horrible for her family’s loss nothing will ever be the same for them.

what's even more evil to this day seungri fans still support him

1:04:30 i think it's more about social perception. Yeah she didn't drop any music but their relationship stuff is going viral all the time, like her pregnancys, couple outfits and the recent vid of her singing a GloRilla song with ASAP treating her cutely. In america this relationship content is really loved by netizens, but in korea (where pda and openly displaying a relationship is perceived as promiscuous) it's shameful.

@vlad5042

11 күн бұрын

genuine question tho is it actually that pda or being openly in a relationship is generally seen as promiscuous? bc it seems just as popular among say korean influencers as american ones, and it doesnt seem to be nearly as big a problem for korean actors. i dont really think its a more conservative attitude as much as it is a weird possessive attitude people have towards asian idols in particular which is encouraged by those idols' companies and often even the idols themselves in some ways. unlike most american popstars, kpop idols' jobs are way more about pretending to be their fans' fantasy boyfriend or girlfriend. some idols lean into this more or less than others but its kinda baked into idolhood, fans are encouraged to be weirdly intimate with their idols during fanmeets and a lot of idols will treat weverse or bubble calls like theyre mystic messenger characters calling to flirt with y/n. lots of idols when asked their ideal type will cheekily answer with their fandom name. i would say the best equivalent in western media is streamers, particularly attractive female streamers with a predominantly male audience who, like idol fans, treat the streamer like their fantasy gf and, like idol fans, treat it like a personal betrayal if they happen to find out she has an actual irl boyfriend. not trying to victim blame the idols here (or streamer girls for that matter), its a twisted expectation of the industry that i think more companies should be working to change by defending their idols when they get caught dating.

@ash-qu33n

11 күн бұрын

@@vlad5042 that's also so true and such a big factor. My best friend is korean (currently serving his military service), he usually gives me cultural context and explanations. It's also vastly different if you entertain as a couple or a different type of content creators. Korean couple influencers usually start as a couple and get extreme shitstorms for breaking up, in contrast single influencers (mostly kpop idols) get lot's of hate for being unavailable. He also often says Kdramas are an escape for the korean population, cus most can't openly date till "marriage age" and are supposed to focus on studies or live with their parents till they're married. That's also why there are "hourly motels" on almost every corner, some people literally don't have the timely capabilities or cultural approval to engage in serious relationships. That's one of the reasons why kdramas and those specific couple influencers are so popular, but if it comes to an "available" idol it's a whole different case. Those are ofc just a few reasons, also I'm sorry if my english isn't that great 😅😁

@ash-qu33n

11 күн бұрын

@@vlad5042 and to answer your question, yes it's extremely unwelcomed if you do pda etc. in public or in front of family/colleges/elders

@vlad5042

10 күн бұрын

@@ash-qu33nno worries about your english its perfect. and thats interesting to hear, im sure all that stigma against relationships is not helping with the low birth rate situation. i do notice another excuse fans often use for hating on idols with dating scandals is this weird idea that being in a relationship reflects some sort of lack of dedication to their career. to me this always seems like a blatant rationalization for jealousy (and i still do think thats true to some extent) but it also makes sense in the context of a culture that thinks dating is a distraction from things like your studies. it also seems like older idols/idols who have been debuted for longer tend to get less backlash than idols who are younger and newer in their career, maybe for that same reason of considering dating to be an inappropriate distraction for young people. seems like theres a lot of factors that contribute to this weird possessive fan culture.

@ash-qu33n

6 күн бұрын

@@vlad5042 yes that's also true. Koreans have a very high work-drive and get shamed if they don't put their all in their work. Yeah older idols have it a bit easier in terms of dating, my korean friend told me it's because they "fulfilled their duties already". It's sad to think about, but I think that's just the culture there

god ever since i liked kpop i just cant get this whole situation out of my mind. we don't know shit about these idols.

OH SEB THANKS FOR REACTING FOR THIS CUZ I DIDNT WANTED TO WATCH THIS ALONE 😭🫶🏻

Pretty sure that on the final part Goo Hara's "Mother" will be brought up for the bs she pulled. If you already know, it was disgusting.

28:53 it means he was working too much and so the girlfriend got mad thst they don't spend time together,so she complained that she will report him to the police if he doesn't hang out with her, hope this helped

this is my first time watching u and I liked u so much that I didn’t skip the ads. Lol

The netizens are really pathetic. I am so thankful to Stephanie for speaking about this issue regarding the female idols. If only it was possible to list the names of every people who posted these comments online to shame them. Being anonymous they think they can say anything mean and ruin someone’s lives

After the host said they will lose content if they can’t ask dating questions I would’ve tapped out. Like okay then I guess you better think of some better questions. Bye.

Rip 🙏 beautiful souls

the host that left is kyuhyun from super junior, i used to like him but after that "joke" i just couldn't like him anymore

@vlad5042

10 күн бұрын

hes also the same one that tiffany from snsd got pissed at cuz he wouldnt stop grilling jessica about dating when she was clearly uncomfortable. that whole show is messy but he was the most annoying one, and he was such a b/tch too cuz when the idols actually got pissed or upset he always acted all awkward and couldn't make eye contact all of the sudden.

I wish I could hug K-pop artists hug every time because no matter what hater people do they will get the biggest fat karma for the rest of life!!!! Oh My Gosh, what the wrong with toxic people get to grow the F**k up, Stop hate on people for what??!?!?!?! 🤬🤬🤬🤬They should shame themselves🤬.

Why do i think Goo Hara are not self exit because it's weird. So the night before she self exit or a day before. She live on Instagram or other app i don't remember. But she said to fans like this "I'm okay guys, i promise I'm okay. for her (Sulli because it is after Sulli self exit) and for you guys. Don't worry I'm okay i promise. I will not self exit guys don't worry i promise. Please don't worry i promise I'm will be okay" While she crying because Sulli's self exit. And after her death there is Thief in her house but there are nothing missing except the evidence. So basically the thief taking the evidence... It's weird 🤔🤔🤔 that makes me think. Goo ara not like the others who just self exit like the other will said goodbye or you know you can see it like ohhh he or she kind of like saying goodbye before self exit. But Goo Ara not... She even said i will not self exit i promise you guys i will never try to self exit again for you guys... Please don't worry... And after that she just tell fans on live how she felt and how she will be better in future... It's weird🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 after that she self exit.