i want a bad end where jahee just completely disappears from the RFA and from its members' lives, and it's only a week later that jumin realizes there's $600,000 missing from his company

@rere-iiika

Жыл бұрын

Slay

@bettycherrypie

Жыл бұрын

I need this!!

@grayboiy

Жыл бұрын

That would be great

@jamdeluxe7456

Жыл бұрын

now THATS a good bad ending

@ebonychan

Жыл бұрын

LET! JAEHEE! DO! CRIME!

Anyone else like Jaehee's normal ending more than the good ending? In the good ending, we're straight up friendzoned, and in the normal ending Jaehee and Jumin are passionately fighting for our attention. Both seem pretty romantic to me, to be honest.

@Nsun07

Жыл бұрын

i gotta say its the most fruity way i've been asked to be someones business partner

@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops

Жыл бұрын

@@Nsun07 Oh yeah, hella fruity undertones. Still wildly romantic. But something about that normal ending. The intensity of it, and both Jaehee and Jumin reaching their hands towards the screen...magnificent.

jumin crashing 707’s car is still one of the funniest moments in this game 😭

@Guusagi

Жыл бұрын

honestly you’re so right it’s the one moment in the game that made me laugh out loud, and I barely make any noise when I play games😂😂 its rly so good

It honestly kind of frustrates me how people in fandom speak about Yoosung. Like you said, it makes sense that people were...put off by him being obsessed with his cousin. Comparing MC to her. But in hindsight it made so much sense to me that he acted like that. The way he told it, she literally gave him a reason to live and to love living. He talked about how he was literally just going through the motions before she came. And then she left. The person who motivated him to live life was gone. Why are there people surprised that he isnt over it or in a better place after two years? Its the same way Jaehee has Zen, Jumin has Elizabeth, Zen has his drive to prove himself, and Seven has [REDRACTED]. That person for Yoosung was taken away. And then MC came along and his motivation to keep moving forward was suddenly sparked again. Of course hes going to relate that feeling coming back to Rika at first. Of course hes going to insist she's just like her, that it feels like she was sent from Rika, that hes reminded of her.

I'm in the "I wanted to date Jaehee for real" camp, but I think that even in a romantic interpretation the route feels like it makes sense. She comes off as someone who would take a long time to articulate her feelings.

Never forgetting when I was in the middle of discovering my sexuality and I decided to do the Jaehee route. After getting her good ending (with so, so much help just to guarantee it) and the after ending, I deleted the game. To this day, she’s the only route I’ve ever played.

@piecookies3488

Жыл бұрын

I’m a completionist at heart so I did the other routes but as a closeted lesbian in middle school Jaehee’s route was the one I replayed multiple times. I wish the boys were just friend routes not gonna lie

@secundaludghens9649

Жыл бұрын

​@@piecookies3488This. Even trying other routes I sometimes fell back into Jaehee's and hell, I was always kinda happy about it.

@sophiehelena6737

Жыл бұрын

same!! i accidently got yoosung and didnt like it, purposefully got jeahee and never played again bc it was so much work. years later at 21 it clicked for me

hey fellas, is it gay to want to be deeply connected to your bestie, to thank god for allowing you to meet bestie, to plan future lunch outings with bestie, to think that a female/female friendship is as powerful as a female/male romance, and to open a cafe with bestie (while calling her your (business) partner)? asking for a friend

Personally, I view Jaehee's route the start of a slow burn strangers to friends to partners to lovers coffee shop romance. It may not be as explicit as the other routes are, but I think it stands out way more this way. I do love your interpretation as well though.

@sophiehelena6737

Жыл бұрын

omg i want that as a webcomic/manga

I am embarrassed to say I never really liked Jaehee when first playing the game, I fell in love with her not because of her route, but because in Saran's route, there's a phone call where she sings to MC a Taco jingle she heard from a commercial, it was the funniest and cutest thing ever and it really cheered me up from the depression that is Saran's route XD.

I actually really like the v/yoosung eye parallel! I think the fact that u mentioned about yoosung chooses to heal his eye is a really telling character moment. Unlike V, who chooses to be blinded by love and lack perspective, Yoosung actively chooses to heal. I feel like it drives home the idea that he can have an identity separated from his love, which was a thematic idea presented with rika, that he didn't really have an identity outside of her.

Less than three minutes in but Zen’s “straightest man in musical theatre”, and 707’s “memeing through the pain, casually lives in an underground bunker” has me CACKLING. This game is truly ridiculous.

I know part 3 hasn’t come out yet BUT i am respectfully asking PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE do a video on “another story”, it gives so much more character to V and Saeran and you would do it so much justice

@astertataricus.

Жыл бұрын

yess please

@scarlettskipper9352

Жыл бұрын

I would love this SO much!

@isabelgee5062

Жыл бұрын

YES!

@primrosett

Жыл бұрын

Yessssss pls, i was pretty indifferent to V until Another Story but back in the day it turned him into my fave. I would love a retrospective!!

@m.l.7558

7 ай бұрын

​@@primrosettI started liking him less. Please stop being so guillible and making things worse for everyone, stop trying to sacrifice yourself idiot. Those were my thoughts z at. Least

As someone whose mother passed away not that long ago, Jaehee and Yoosung's stories always strike a chord with me. I see alot of myself in how they handle grief; Jaehee plunging herself into overworking, and Yoosung's dissociation, processing grief and reconciliation with two sides of a person you adored. I always read Yoosung's Rika obsession as someone who never processed their grief and was desperate to find some greater meaning to a traumatic event, essentially stuck in a bargaining/denial stage. There's flaws here and there, but in general, I really connected with these plot threads all these years later:)

@navi5490

11 ай бұрын

hi! i know this is from a little while ago, but i hope you’re doing well, and i’m so sorry for your loss. i hope whatever pain and grief you feel will be overcome with peace and acceptance, and that your mother is always with you, cheering you on! sorry if this was strange, but i just wanted to let you know, that it will all be okay! 💕

@cygnusx1_

11 ай бұрын

@@navi5490 aww thank you kind stranger! That truly means a lot to hear 💕

@navi5490

11 ай бұрын

@@cygnusx1_ 💕

Do you ever think for a second about MC just sort of sitting there in Rika's apartment in between chats, and sort of scrolling back through the latest buckwild thing one of the RFA did and just. Wondering at how fucking wild these people are and how wild it is that she's just sitting there witnessing this shit? I'm looking at you, GTA sequence lmfao. Like there's no way MC didn't spend some time after the car wreck photo just looking at a wall and reevaluating her life for a while.

I absolutely love Yoosung’s route, but in the early parts I just kept mentally spraying him with a spray bottle every time he compared me to Rika

Waited years for this, and just by seeing the name, I'm not disappointed. Yoosung was actually my first route because as a teenage boy at the time of MM, I related hard to him.

@robineaken4524

Жыл бұрын

I first played mm when I was much younger than yoosung and I thought that he was a college student, and not that young, 20 is pretty old. Now that I’m older than him… I understand that yoosung is baby

@YoloMenace001

Жыл бұрын

Same

*It’s been 84 years…* which makes sense given how long and well thought-out this video is, so I’m just really glad it’s out now!

Jaehee is an Aroace lesbian iconic. She just wants a simple queerplatonic relationship with her bestie running their own cozy coffee shop. Which is so queer. She's living the coffee shop au fantasy. She's living my fantasy! Well I want to run an ice cream parlor by the beach instead but still!! One day I'll get to live with bestie, one day...

@Celebi126

2 ай бұрын

I AGREE WITH THE AROACE TAKE I SAW HER THAT WAY TOOOO. Glad to know I’m not alone in this

as someone who has watched both of these videos and not played a second of mystic messenger, i love the way these routes are summarized and the generally relaxed tone of these videos. thank you for making them! i’ll definitely watch any that come out in the future!

@P-P-Panda

Жыл бұрын

Samee

I'm enjoying the number of people relying how they had their gay awakenings to Jahee's route, and it makes me laugh in retrospect. I played the game to initially romance Jumin, and bitterly realized I couldn't immediately, and chose Jahee instead. Now looking back I know playing her route greatly contributed to me realizing I was aromantic. The idea of entering QPR with a swag autistic girl and having a coffee shop together was like a Godsend of an ending to me, though I understand entirely why others did not find it satisfactory lol.

i'm honestly so glad to hear you talk about how iffy the conflict with yoosung and v in yoosung's route. to me, i've always interpreted yoosung to be implied to have some form of psychosis and paranoia, that was either caused or exacerbated by rika's death. so when the v conflict came around i really wish the solution had been less "you need to trust v because well he's family" and more "you need to examine why you so heavily mistrust v and try to examine him from a perspective less fueled by paranoia." because in all honesty, yoosung is right to have doubts about v, i just don't think the route of that distrust is what it should be. obviously that's not how its handled in game but its how i like to ease the weirdness of that part of his route.

Not sure if you're aware, but mint is the word Koreans use for the color that is entirely V's hair-eye color scheme. So Mint Eye is directly referencing V's eyes.

@Megirly-kq9wh

11 ай бұрын

In English it's the same as well. Mint is a way of describing said colour

jaehee is literally the only realistic route in the game. starting off slow as friends, no hurries, no kissing etc. i like the concept of mc and jaehee being besties and owning a cute bakery more too.

Back when this game came out I played every route, got every ending, particpated in every chat, got every call and message -- basically, this game had such a grip on me that i couldnt help but want to see everything. All these years later and I can still firmly say that Jaehee and Yoosung's routes are my absolute favorites. Its a bit odd to say this about mystic messenger (with all the eccentric plot lines briefly touched on in casual routes and more apparent in deep routes and another story) but they're genuinely just so grounded, relatable, and touching. A lot of the flaws you brought up here have weighed on my enjoyment after all these years but whenever I remember basically any phone call with yoosung I tend to overlook these problems (it also helps that both these characters helped me realize my sexuality lmao)

Ahhh, new video! Jaehee's route was my first and absolute favorite bc it's just so silly and wonderfully sapphic. V's final scene in it holds a very special place in my heart bc it's absolutely wild, that man is a menace in this route. I do feel bad that Jumin's left prolly on the verge of a mental breakdown between work and losing the two relationships he relied on most and his lifelong best friend's self destruction, but that's why we have the Jumin route to give him the best possible ending.

I enjoyed Jaehee's route so much, but as gay as I was (and still am) I couldn't help but to love 707's route. I related to the way he is written in certain general manners and how his way of loving is written, remembering it really makes a couple of things click. I'm really exited for the next video!

I literally jumped when I saw the notification. I'm so happy it really made my day

"How gay was Mystic messenger?" not enough, thats for sure

idk why but that part where 707 sends a pic of his hand and jaehee goes **oh my god what is that** never fails to crack me up LOL

So i am gonna be honest i initially was very wary on clicking this video or any mysme related video in general because yoosung is my biggest comfort character and I feel extremely uncomfortable when people speak too negatively of him and mischaracterise him which is something the mysme fandom loves to do. I also happen to get deeply attached to him because at the time I got into Mysme which is mid 2020 I myself was dealing with the grief of losing a really good friend of mine to illness so yeah he does mean ALOT to me. Im glad to find your video and I loved your analysis.

As someone who had a recent sexuality crisis Jaehee's line about feeling greedy reached out and stabbed me ^^;

2:15:14 , ah yes. Unashamedly one of my favorite cgs in the game. Not for ship content or story. Their faces and unknown's performance just make me giggle for some reason. My friends hate me for this

@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops

Жыл бұрын

Yowza

@theplushfrog

Жыл бұрын

It starts to remind me of a few bad ends in... a few much more kink-focused dating sim.

@m.l.7558

7 ай бұрын

​@@theplushfrogwhich ones?? 👀

Playing Jaehee's route reignited my love for testing out different way to prep coffee and teas, and while I wish they showed a kiss for her ending I think her handing a key to something she's passionate about is arguably even more romantic

Jaehee bad end ideas: BRE: You dont talk to her enough and she over works herself to the point of exhaustion (like one of her endings) and she quits working for Jumin and leaves the RFA to have a break. She doesnt contact MC or anyone again. BRE 2 or BE: You try to confess your feelings to Jaehee but bc you werent active enough in the server/you didnt pick the right choices she does not reciprocate these feelinsg and friendzones you to the point of actively being uncomfortable around you and avoiding you. (Aka; Every gay's worst nightmare) Since cheritz liked these; BE: MC flirts too much with Zen and you make Jaehee jealous and get a bad end. Jaehee tells MC how much she betrayed her trust or tells MC (or someone and MC/player reads the chat) that she thought there was something more between her and MC but she guesses she was wrong. BE/BRE: MC/you try to hook Jaehee up with Zen too much/ you ignore the chat too much and the two get together. Jaehee friendzones MC.

@LeeBasil

5 ай бұрын

Oh god, the bad ending where you get with Zen would be soooo much more fun (and painful) if Jaehee actually confronted MC about the betrayal

legit i dont know if this has been propositioned before, but what came to mind for a bad end for Jaehee is her overworking herself to literal death, MC just keeps telling her to work hard even after distressing texts/phone calls, and upon the news of her passing, the RFA completely splits up. route ends with only MC attending her funeral (as everyone has reasons to not attend or not mentally/emotionally stable enough able to attend), MC wondering what they couldve done differently, thinking of everything they had left unsaid good MM videos as always! its nice diving back into it after a couple years or so of just forgetting it existed x)

many comments have asked for this already, but an analysis of "another story's" themes would be an amazing video. Another story has such intricate, and consistent themes that I still think about years after playing. It has its obvious flaws, but imo, V and Ray's route have the best writing

OOOF, I'm just picking up on things as the video goes but God, Seven calling himself an "airhead" specifically in the Yoosung normal ending feels like a fucking slap to the face after playing another story 😭😭 IYKYK

I think it could of been fun to see a route where Jumin, Jaehee and yoosung (and maybe even the player) all work together. From what I remember Jaehee is only ever replaced as an assistant but the issue isn't Jumin is evil its that he has too much work that then gets pushed onto his assistant, having mutiple assistants, or getting Jahehee her own assistant would solve that. could of been fun as a nuetrual ending for one of them

I really appreciate that you spend the extra time and give deep care to critically analyze the intents and themes here, especially when so many people are willing to completely ignore media that appeals to girls as a legitimate form of storytelling. Also, this video is just so well put together

This review was amazing! Jaehee and Yoosung are my favourites, so I'm so glad you gave their characters the respect they deserve as they are often overlooked and/or misunderstood by the fandom I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these reviews, and I'm looking forward to the next video, but of course, take as much time as you need to make it Also, you're a fellow Yooran shipper?!?! Hell yeah!!!

Lee I just finished this and I enjoyed it so much!! Thanks a TON for the chance to read some lines, I had so much fun and I can’t believe how well it all came together with the extra voice acting. You’re so good at summarizing and explaining the story in a way that makes it super engaging and fun, even when I’ve yet to play Mysmes (although I really want to now!) I’ll be looking forward to reading more lines for part three!!!!

After the reveal of all the things Unknown’s VA has been in, I now understand why I always thought he delivered lines the best… Well, best is subjective, what I truly mean is that he put EVERYTHING into some of these lines. He’s going at it and it works (for me lol… they are extra but the entire game is extra so I’m not really complaining)

Yes! Despite me walking out the door for work, I saw this on my feed and it was an instant clock. I was honestly a little worried this series would get dropped but I’m glad you’re willing to make these for us. I live for these deep analysis videos on otome/manhwa romances.

1:00:54 I already watched this video like 5 times (seriously) and this part always makes me laugh even though it's supposed to be a serious scene lmao 😭 Your voice is very calming for my brain and listening u speak for almost 3 hours about something I love is like something made in heaven !!!

I still don't love Yoosung for my own reasons, but I like him. I also understand him more than when I first played the game. His route was always fun for me /despite/ it being Yoosung not because of him due to the amount of LORE and such that was revealed compared to other routes. As for Jaehee, I always imagined MC, Zen, and her being the ultimate throuple of RFA especially after Zen gave her the gift.

jaehee bad ending where she forms a gay harem without me

let's not forget yoosung pledging to be our personal housewife, on call, with voice lines that still haunt me to this day

24:29 That picture of 707 is probably a Neon Genesis Evangelion reference. In that anime there is a secret organization called Seele with a bunch of old, powerful men. When they have meetings they talk through floating slabs in a dark room. Its probably a nod towards the fact that 707 works for a secret agency as a hacker (and maybe something else...)

Really hope you decide to continue this series! I've never played the games and don't really intend to but I've been doing a deep dive into them and this video series is by far the most detailed and cohesive guide of what actually happens in the game. I know it takes a lot of effort to make, and it shows, but I hope you'll continue it in the future! I'm sure we'll all be watching

I have never played Mystic Messenger and am only really experiencing it through these video essays and any let's plays I look up when I'm curious, but I was absolutely delighted and invested in everything happening in Yoosung's route. From what little I knew of Mystic Messenger, I had a feeling he'd be my favorite and I'm glad to know my intuition is as good as ever lol

mysmes is still a huge interest and source of comfort to me to this day (especially seven since i relate Very hard to him) seeing this video is so nice !!! jaehee's route is SO well written and i love your takes on it, not necessarily queer but very queer if you look closely........ and yoosung just sparks so much joy. the og sunshine boy. cant wait for ur video analyzing the special routes !!!

I think one of Jahee's bad ends could be that she threatens to leak Jumin's companys secrets as revenge for Jumin overworking her, she demands a few million dollars from the company in exchange to not do that, then takes the money and moves to another country.

omg this hit nostalgia so hard, I played all routes back in 2016-2017 and would have alarms to wake me up thro the night lol yoosung was my first route cause he was the easiest to interact with, but my fav character&route was seven; his route was less funny that I thought it’ll be, but it explained the backstory a lot more and why his personality is the way it is at present time in the game

I remember getting Yoosung's good ending (with no cheats btw) & think it was the most amazing character growth I had ever experienced in fiction! Also, with how he matured little by little every day... I couldn't help find that incredibly attractive. I made art of him in his "mature" outfit!

Not the car crash again 😭 I can imagine 707 as that sulking meme after getting over the initial shock 😆

Whoop whoop! Part 2. Thanks for posting! Was waiting for this. :D

@inkblots9244

Жыл бұрын

Just finished watching- Thank you once again for all your incredible commentary and in depth analysis. The part with Jaehee crying with Zen still manages to jerk a tear from me... gosh damnit. You mention things and point out parallels and themes I hadn't even originally noticed too- I love these videos you make.

I don't know how I only see this video 7month after posting it, but man do I love this 3h long essay of my favourite tome game. thank you so much for all the work that you put into the video, I just love every second of it ❤

I just wanted to say that I've been loving this video series. The way you discuss and analyse the game is wonderful honestly. While I was watching this, despite it being such a long video... the only thought in my mind was I didn't want the video to end because I enjoyed listening to it so much. Thank you for the amount of work you've put into this so far, I look forward to the next one!

I just rewatched both of your MM vids and I just came to say how much I love them and your analysis and I hope one day we get the next installment! No pressure of course this kind of thing takes a loooot of work!

i love jaehee so much and yes ur right SINCE 2016 and i still love HER DEEPLY id die for jaehee

great work just like last time! any chances you'd consider making a part 4 for Ray and V? 🥺

@scarlettskipper9352

Жыл бұрын

I was about to ask the same thing! Their routes have SO much going on and it would be super interesting to examine them!

@ahero4357

Жыл бұрын

Fr, compass was my life lol

@scarlettskipper9352

Жыл бұрын

@@ahero4357 Oh my goodness, YES! That song is beautiful!!

@ahero4357

Жыл бұрын

​@@scarlettskipper9352I knowww, went town on the analysis of the lyrics! V's route was generally controversial, so it's nice to see a fellow enjoyer lol

yoosung was always my favourite for a lot of reasons but jaehee's route felt so real and sweet and so underrated.... I love her

i am sorry but the "placeholder text" in v's description is killing me 😭😭

707 is my waifu I so desperately wish we had more content in his route, most of it was him hating the MC lol

@RiSK907

Жыл бұрын

I just wanted to add I’m sad that it’s probably going to be a long time until I see you cover his route 🥲 but I can’t wait

Desperate for future videos on this! VERY curious as to your take on Ray and V's stories, as I think those are the most nuanced and have the most compelling stories.

Can't wait for my boy Jumins route hes so fucked I love him

I really hope that you will do a video on “another story”, it gives so much more character to V and Saeran and you would do it so much justice

I think I must have watched part 1 three times in excitement for this next upload… you have a perfectly calming voice for recording video essays! Thank you for the happy nostalgia!

The TV/V thing made me crack up. Thank you for another wonderful video!

I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for part 3 to come out!!!

im so glad you continued this!! loved part two too

So excited for part 3 to come out!

Thank you for making a feature length video on mystic messenger

weiird, i just came across the first video last night and was pretty bummed about the lack of a part 2. happy to see it now!

I've been stalking this account for part 2 since part one came out and i'm so excited to watch

AHHH PART TWO!!! I'm so excited 🩷🩷🩷🩷

Ahhh I’m so excited to watch this next part! I really enjoyed the first one!!

Yes! I’ve been praying for part 2, I’m so excited lolol

Very excited! Your first video convinced me to play mystic messenger!!

omg im so happy you posted more! i really like these deep dives :D

It's been 7 months finally, thank you 🙏🙏 I can't wait to watch this

I'm so excited for this video, I was repeatedly checking in to see whether it was out!

Ive been waiting so long for this video to come out, I loved your first one cause you're the only person I've even watched who had a good video essay on Mystic Messenger!! it was my favorite game when I was little and I would play it ever summer break, I would again but im in college now so I don't have the time so its nice watching your videos instead :))

mystic messenger was such a huge part of my high school life. i love this series so much, thank you for this trip down memory lane. very keen for my favourite route to be covered next time!!:))

i love returning to this video. it's so cosy and nostalgic, one of those videos that really feels like it's made "for me". thank you so much for the work you've put into your mystic messenger videos, i really appreciate the trip down memory lane 🫶🫶

LOVE THIS SERIES, such a good deep dive into these routes. So excited for the next part

UUUUH FINALLY PART 2!!! It's so cool that you put in all this effort again :D

Omg I just rechecked your last video to see if we got the part 2 and was not disappointed

Aaaaah i was so ectited to see this video pop up!! Tbh i couldn't get myself to finish any routes besides Jaehee's, and i was bummed over missing the whole story, i am so glad that now i can learn about the other routes! Thank youuuu

I haven't even watched the video yet, but I'm already so excited! I already know it's going to be great!!!

AHHHH I’m so happy part two is out 🥹 the first deep dive was something I didn’t know I needed

yessss i loved your other video on mystic messenger! so excited to watch this one!

Amazing video! Loved the last one and this one was great too.

I’ve been waiting for this!!!! I’m so excited :]

I absolutly love your analysis. Really takes me back to when I was in college, checking my phone in class to go through those chat and discovering the story.

commenting to help this get recommended! thank you for making these i enjoy them a lot!!!!

Thank you so much for these great videos! You are so great at the story summary and analysis. Already excited for the next part and it would be amazing to see you do "another story" as well!

your mystic messenger video essays are so amazing, well written and a blast to watch!! i’m looking forward to the next one :) the v and jumin story mode that you paraphrased had me me dying

I've been checking your channel every few days for the past few weeks to see if you had posted the next part to your first Mystic Messenger video! Another amazing watch! 💘

you’ll never know how much your videos and going back to play routes I never did really give a light to my life in this dark time of mine, thank you so so much