How Gamefam Became The Most HATED Roblox Developers...
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Today we talk about the history of gamefam and how they became roblox's most hated and worst developers.
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Roblox is an online game platform and game creation system that allows users to program games and play games created by other users. Founded by David Baszucki and Erik Cassel in 2004 and released in 2006, the platform hosts user-created games of multiple genres coded in the programming language Lua. For most of Roblox's history, it was relatively small, both as a platform and a company, due to both co-founder Baszucki's lack of interest in press coverage and it being "lost among the crowd" in a large number of platforms released around the same time. Roblox began to grow rapidly in the second half of the 2010s,
Roblox is free-to-play, with in-game purchases available through a virtual currency called "Robux". As of August 2020, Roblox has over 164 million monthly active users, with it being played by over half of all children aged under 16 in the United States.[9][10] Roblox has received generally positive reviews from critics.
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Are you worried that anime games might be doomed and what is your opinion on gamefam? 🤔👇
@coastterhh
5 ай бұрын
mha aint bad it just had a ass community and i watched it fully and the anime is rlly good but the fandom is trash
@thatguywhosbored9820
5 ай бұрын
Ay why you dissin my hero it used to be peak and it still is if u ignore the comunity
@nelzyr
5 ай бұрын
if its aa I wouldnt have any problem
@TheDeemo
5 ай бұрын
I dont think so because most of the anime games are just horrible either no skill pay to win or either boring clicking simulator
@QuilasCool
5 ай бұрын
Gamefam is prob the greediest company in roblox and makes the worst games on roblox and take down the best ones🤦♂️
Its crazy how they took down these game but released something 10x worst than them it's a spit in the face to the devs
@muky9774
5 ай бұрын
10x? at the least 1000x
@Y0URU53R
5 ай бұрын
@@muky9774 1000x? at the least 10000x
@astro_4807
5 ай бұрын
Have you even watched kreekcrafts video he literally was told that gamefam didn’t take the games down don’t just believe that they took the game down from some random youtuber
@yes21g
5 ай бұрын
@@astro_4807 then who did it
@luhkakuja
5 ай бұрын
lets make that 100000x@@Y0URU53R
At this point. The motto of "Make fun games" said by ROBLOX is now just an excuse for developers and companies like GameFam to be encouraged to make cash grabs targeted towards kids.
@TheCombatZombie
5 ай бұрын
at this point they should just get david (current owner of roblox) out of the company and get someone else that actually cares for the fanbase and the safery of it (in other words:someone like the club penguin creators)
@Cat_0nmars
5 ай бұрын
@@TheCombatZombiehow tho?
@MASKredTeer
2 ай бұрын
"powering imagination" my ass
@Blackprofilesmatter
2 ай бұрын
@@MASKredTeer “powering overprices”
@geographyworld123
2 ай бұрын
@@Blackprofilesmatter"powering child touchers & Cashgrabs"
Gamefam: My hero games have been plaguing the Roblox anime community for years on end. With T abu Midoria, being their leader. Their power to make low quality battleground, tower defence and bandit beaters crowded them King of Rip offs. Crunchyroll: If you got my hero licence, who would win in a money making competition? Gamefam: If they privated and rebranded their my hero models, It might be a little tricky. Crunchyroll: Would you lose? Gamefam: Nah I'd DMCA
@buccofsorrow
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 edit: make it "if you got the my hero license, would you lose in a money making competition?"
@talkswithleo1027
5 ай бұрын
Let’s hope just like Gojo, It doesn’t go well for them
@buccofsorrow
5 ай бұрын
@@talkswithleo1027 hope their revenue gets cut off by 50%
@SlutForCynthia
5 ай бұрын
I think this really demonstrates how IP laws largely harm artists and consumers of the artists work.
@sithedgehogs
5 ай бұрын
@@buccofsorrow Anime adventures revenue was cut by 100%
I was planning on working on an anime game, but decided against it since I don't wanna waste my time working on a whole game, just for it to get taken down. Also you should have probably covered one of the Rell brother's tweets on the matter, where he said not to waste your time and effort with the whole anime scene of Roblox.
@nothanks1508
5 ай бұрын
i mean games with no players wont get taken down
@Berlinh2
5 ай бұрын
@@nothanks1508nahhhhh💀
@user-zu9xg2dl5q
5 ай бұрын
@@nothanks1508 Damn...That aint even an insult thats a violation 💀
@sablenarwhale3574
5 ай бұрын
your game was going to be ass anyway
@Joecojuhdarizzmaster
5 ай бұрын
@@nothanks1508bro that must have hit him like a bullet😖
I genuinely was depressed when I heard Anime Adventurers was getting deleted, I decided to return for the Dragon Ball update and I pulled the new units and I was so happy. I was about to keep playing then suddenly the game goes private and I couldn’t join, then it was gone…Gamefam I hope gets the karma they deserve.
@starplayzyt-nx1zh
Ай бұрын
Well guys, its officially over, Game Fan made a shit one-piece game and now Rell Seas might be cooked
I'm so glad you mentioned specifically that ASTD is not at fault for the DMCA takedowns. While the game definitely has it's issues, I believe Fruity and Madao has no ill-intentions and wouldn't ever do something like this. ASTD was just unfortunately caught in the crossfire being partnered with Gamefam even prior to their downward reputation.
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
I had to clear up some misconceptions people are blaming fruity and his team for no reason at all due to the misinformation being spread on the game
@pixelspixelation6418
5 ай бұрын
W i just came from a video where there was someone misinforming their audience and saying fruity was the boss of gamefam@@TechyOP_
@mickamalula4483
5 ай бұрын
Fax bro I'm glad you mentioned this as astd clearly is not at fault
@seanfooch6475
5 ай бұрын
And the worst part is ASTD was genuinely getting better Ever since the gojo update it’s been nothing but W’s ever since, kinda sucks that they are getting blamed for something that they probably have barely anything to do with
@sameersingh3776
5 ай бұрын
@@seanfooch6475how’s astd doing now I haven’t played since beast gohan come out I’m like level 200+ I think
Once this is all of this is over, I hope we can strive again together and be ready for any enemies (such as GameFam) to avoid and strike back for our community 👊
@NoobgamerHD
5 ай бұрын
Boi we as players have no power to "fight" against the big companies, the only thing we can do is complain lol
@ashen981
5 ай бұрын
@@NoobgamerHD do not underestimate the power of complaining bc once the complains are too crucial roblox will have to dig in and do the problem since the complain arent just normal and arent coming from just the roblox website some are even on the crunchyroll website also complaining about gamefams shady doings
@NoobgamerHD
5 ай бұрын
@@ashen981 I beg to differ, players in South America have been complaining for Roblox to add servers in the region for years to no avail, even though they are plentiful and the complaints are many as well... Roblox only cares about themselves, and money, of course.
@Rablisineabbinsine
5 ай бұрын
You literally nothing no matter what you do nothing will change.
@kame597
5 ай бұрын
enemies? you know that gamefam is right by law right? roblox devs just seem to forget that copyright is a thing
Gamefam made Big Games look like an angel 💀
@Yati_ra.
5 ай бұрын
gamefam is 10x worser than big games plus they lore children into playing their games for money
@Yati_ra.
5 ай бұрын
and the fact they dont pay theyre workers is genuinely sad
@CHECommonHumanError
5 ай бұрын
What did BIG Games do
@ManowarMasino
4 ай бұрын
What tos? @Sample_Text.
@vladsoloshchenko5551
4 ай бұрын
@@CHECommonHumanErrorpredatory monitization, nft's, and putting DMCA's on blocky pets
If Gamefam ever makes another game with Chrunchyroll based on other anime’s like one punch man and other popular animes, it will make the anime community considering to start a full on war with Gamefam. Heck, it will make anime Roblox battleground games getting copyright strikes or full on taking the game, which will make the battlegrounds and other communities go straight on BONKERS, like settling it with hands on a computer or in public. (Idk what else to say, just add something on idk)
The best course of action I feel is to tell companies that their IPs are being used so creativity on the platform is promoted and Gamefam gets taken down with it.
@phuah
5 ай бұрын
that's literally gonna fuck up every anime games including the good ones, we've already seen what happened with driving empire
@tenacitypov3570
5 ай бұрын
@@phuah it’s either one company completely dominates the scene with money or everythign
@Paracelsus.
5 ай бұрын
You want to nuke the whole anime scene on roblox 💀
@kaitenzu7112
5 ай бұрын
These companies also have to recieve payment from these games so that wouldn't work, just cause you own an IP doesn't mean you're all good. You have have to pay them a percentage
@maxfish2018
5 ай бұрын
thats not how it works but ok
The only IP’s I’m worried of getting obtained by Gamefam are the JoJo’s bizarre adventure Ip and the JJK IP, we live in a society were a greedy company is obtaining licenses to force players to only play that game and the game is horrendous. The only game from gamefam that I enjoyed was the sonic one, just to spend some time running around being fast with my favorite character. Besides that I completely agree with some of the things you mentioned on the video. If JJI get the license for JJK on roblox with all that money they got from Early access and gave free access I would eat that.
@ibidknight
3 ай бұрын
Yeah if they get JJBA its gonna be wild there are so many good JJBA games out there and I don't want to play GameFam's Jotaro Pose Simulator
@aPersonWhoExistsAnIsAperson
2 ай бұрын
Just wait until they try to obtain Mario and Mickey Mouse’s IP’s.
@greggus1085
Ай бұрын
@@aPersonWhoExistsAnIsAperson nawh they would never get Mario ip because Nintendo is still more greedy than even gamefam Nintendo would better make their own Mario grinding simulator in roblox
@powerscalingisdumb
Ай бұрын
Gamefam getting JoJo's IP is a literal nightmare.
@GDRoyalestFort
17 күн бұрын
@@powerscalingisdumb Gamefam: Oh your coming closer instead of running? the whole community: I have to get closer to beat you,
How is Gamefam getting so many IPs and partners dawg 💀
@buccofsorrow
5 ай бұрын
on god what sane person is giving them this shit 💀
@dee_torch5
5 ай бұрын
Fr bro
@RommekePommeke
5 ай бұрын
By being a company.
@machintosh3008
5 ай бұрын
Someone at Gamfam is giving the best head of their life
@RenUker
5 ай бұрын
They're doing some shady business and some blackmailing
Gamefam was already hated for the entire Funky Friday stuff and how they treated their employees. This..? Man, this one seals it
@blazer6127
4 ай бұрын
They sealed their fate
@jamesdylanaquino4205
4 ай бұрын
they're never going to be forgiven at this point
Whats even crazier is I bet they don’t even have permission from 90% of those fnf mod creators to use and profit off their songs/characters
Dang it's a shame My Hero Mania got taken down. I got introduced to the game years ago by a friend. The friend has left me but I still play the game. And to know Demon Slayer games have a risk of being taken down worries me. I have a friend who LOVES this one DS game. Like he and I play it a ton. I can't believe Gamefam for doing this. The amount of hate I have towards this company is unbelievable. 2024 is possibly the year where Roblox dies. But who knows, they could come back from this.
If only there was an alternate universe where javacoded never agreed to gamefam about RB Battles and sonic.
@ddgpro2845
5 ай бұрын
Rb battles was not that bad actually the sonic one was horrendous tho and what led to funky Friday's demise
@ShinyTobyTheKoraidon.
5 ай бұрын
@@ddgpro2845 it was until it got updated recently.
@Jaxxes1991
5 күн бұрын
@@ddgpro2845It was rather mid until the giant revamp that fixed most of the major issues
its sad seeing actual developers that cared about actually making quality games
that Pokemon Brick Bronze short clip gave me a massive flashback. man do I miss that game even tho I'm not a big Pokemon fan
Keep going brother, these videos are so good
Hello techy, i have been watching your videos for quite a while like while while back. I gotta say each video has information that is easy to understand, love your consistency! Hope you reach 100k soon 🎉 also wishing you a great new year!
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sticking around for awhile I appreciate the kind words and happy new years to you as well. More and greater content coming 2024 stay tuned 👍🏾
another game that got doomed by Gamefam is Polybattle it's a PvP FPS which plays out a little like Battlefield 4, and it can be pretty fun in that regard the dev was pretty busy with life stuff so he sold the game to Gamefam, and while they did add some ok updates, they just stopped updating it completely a couple of months ago, and now it barely reaches 100 players at once, while before it had up to 2K sometimes it had alot of potential, but ignorant and arrogant devs equals that I guess
@Edward_G.C
5 ай бұрын
Yeah polybattle is really great. It's really sad that the game isn't get any updated anymore because "the game doesn't make enough money"
That video was amazing! Can't wait for more stuff like that!
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
ive been waiting for this beautiful techyop upload
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Wsg yapko
It's like roblox is trying they best to become mid and die by cooking up these goofy ahh decisions 💀
@hillrob4595
5 ай бұрын
It not there fault its the anime game dev
The fact that they closed aa and asx for THIS is crazy hopefully they learn from this mistake and don’t make any more games and I feel bad for the people who spent there life savings on aa(hw) became now they won’t get it back
@devincampbell1817
5 ай бұрын
not u calling out hw. LMAO
@WuyuziYYDS
5 ай бұрын
@@devincampbell1817 whats hw
@kame597
5 ай бұрын
but they are not wrong tho, copyright is a thing, aa devs KNEW they were wrong by using mha things, so gamefam is on the right side by law
@Mally01
5 ай бұрын
Actually it was said in the AA dc that there gonna get some back if it doesn’t come back
This video is so well said I love it thx techyop for this wonderful video 👏👏🙂
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been waiting for this vid.
At maybe 0:15 when he said mass destruction, Mass Destruction from Persona 3 played for a brief moment I like that :)
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Yessir thanks for noticing the little Easter egg
@SirFailure
5 ай бұрын
@@TechyOP_ 👍👍👍
Holy hell i didn't even realise Anime Adventures was closed until I saw the thumbnail... so many hours (and robux) all wasted on that game for me and so many others
@klassic_Gamez
5 ай бұрын
I’m so mad bro, I had just gotten a few secret units and then the game gets shut down because of a crappy my hero game? 😭
@otakuroki
5 ай бұрын
@@klassic_Gamez exactly like I don't understand how gamefam gets away with so much, Roblox has gone so sour and bad thanks to it being a money hungry corporation that puts money first before it's player base. Honestly so grateful to Techy since this video clears so much up and highlights how crappy these corporations are
@oluwapelumiemmanuelagunbia1438
5 ай бұрын
My first time playing I got four mythics now they are gone
Great Persona Q and Q2 Background Music choices.
one of the best vids ive seen ngl, keep it up!
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏿
Despite everything gamefam done, the time we spend playing those games and having fun they were in allrights to do this, it was just a matter of time before the giant bubble that was expanding to explode and sink every anime game on the platform. :(
If gamefam gets rights to JoJo ima actually cry since it means Uzu will finally have to do something within a reasonable time span But this also would mean That Crazy Adventure would also get taken down so I would be sad.
@blazer6127
4 ай бұрын
ROAD ROLLER DA!
@Giorno_giovanna214
2 ай бұрын
If they get right for JoJo games im just gonna quit roblox.
Fire upload as always bro
I want to know what corporate lies are being spun for companies to think Gamefam could be trusted with their IPs 💀
gamefam got OP IP apparently
for blox fruits, you said it cannot be taken down cause the owners are reworking their fruits not to look like one piece, etc. tbh i just think that Roblox would never strike down their biggest source of money
@DestructorD
5 ай бұрын
If they got it up as a recommended game or it's on the homepage, I doubt they'd go at Blox Fruits. Ain't gonna kill anyone to play it safe or sorry, though. Especially with gamefam
@RommekePommeke
5 ай бұрын
They struck down Shindo Life when Shindo Life was one of the most played games lmao.
Techy coming in clutch in with this post
the editing for this video is very fun
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed hopefully I can do more videos like this
Gamefam is literally just holding these ip hostages.
ey MHA anime isn't bad it's just the fandom 💀
@InternetTraveler-xv2kb
13 күн бұрын
True the fandom just has a lot of weirdos💀
the mass destruction reference put a smile on my face.
i just cant comprehend how roblox digs its grave everytime and still survives
If we cant boycott minecraft into adding all the mobs from the mob vote I want to at least get rid of gamefam entirely lmao
Considering that Blox fruits is single-handedly keeping Roblox alive, it’s highly unlikely it’s going anywhere
@bryanmarcia4104
5 ай бұрын
Roblox making bank on that game.
@icecreamplaysbg.akatusino9605
5 ай бұрын
@@bryanmarcia4104fr lol
Nice video from my favorite YTber. I hope one day you'll become a succesfull ytber. You make very entretaining videos. I hope u reach 100k and get ur play button soon:). *From a big fan:D*
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the support and I appreciate the kind words more to come in 2024
@Lol-r
5 ай бұрын
@@TechyOP_ no problem 😁
Wonder what will happen if someone started a riot or a raid in the Game Fam HQ
I don't think that anime was adventures was actually taken down by gamefam because it says privated rather than content deleted. So they probably privated it to avoid DMCA
@gokoafm
5 ай бұрын
The devs confirmed a few days ago in the official discord that the game was taken down due to DMCA
@sithedgehogs
5 ай бұрын
@@gokoafm alr
Bro i rather grind sakura stand for one week straight than playing mha battleground more than 5 minutes
@8bitmike361
5 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s if they don’t take ownership of Jojo buzzard adventure 💀 the anime Roblox community ain’t safe anymore…it’s truly tragic
@Gamer-qr8ee
5 ай бұрын
@@8bitmike361 2/3 of anime on Roblox are Jojos and One Piece We're doomed if either one of those gets taken down
@funny-gv3ml
5 ай бұрын
@@8bitmike361 Isn't the owner of jojo (forgot his name lol) ok with fan games / fan made stuff of jojo doe
@Paracelsus.
5 ай бұрын
@@funny-gv3ml His name is Hirohiko Araki, while i don't know if he doesn't mind, I wouldn't be surprised because he's a giant manchild who loves spreading joy through his drawings and actions. ( His wife said on an interview he'd ding-dong-ditch his neighbours for the fun of it, the man is 63 and has 2 daughters 💀 his neighbours love him though )
@uncanny6017
5 ай бұрын
@@funny-gv3mlyea he’s said multiple times he’s fine with fan games etc. so Roblox JOJO should be fine
Me in Arcane Oddessy after spawning in the sky in a box of invisibe barriers as the strongest sea monster swims in the sky While being hit by the sea monster
Bully and Persona OST in one video. I feel like I'm in heaven.
their game makes blox fruits look amazing 😂
@novatide
5 ай бұрын
people shit on bloxfruits for no reason.
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
NO CAP 😭
@MohamedMahmoud-zi9nb
Ай бұрын
why all ppl hate blox fruits?
@MohamedMahmoud-zi9nb
Ай бұрын
isnt it the most famous roblox game?
@r.i.p.KingVon8062
Ай бұрын
Bro blox fruit aint bad
Please don't pick fights with GameFam employees, commenters, management is to blame. The employees put up with tight deadlines, low pay, and abusive management just to make your day a little brighter.
@LordXSegaX
4 ай бұрын
dont harass the gamefam employees, id rather harass the owner and management cuz theyre the ones responsible for this
Perfect timing, my food just started heating up
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed
Crazy how they did all this and Now Their studio is Being targeted
Brother stop watching this, we have to fight the MPLA 🇦🇴
If you still wanna play my hero mania, there’s a game called heroes world that kept the data of my hero mania so you can just go into it with your old account
The reason project slayers isn’t updating is because the owner is pursuing collage and can’t find anyone to pass ownership
love your videos
As soon as I saw gamefam make a anime game I was just waiting for techyOP to respond to it.
i love ur video and i hope they bring back anime adventures
Bro does he know that the project slayer dev are working on a new demon art💀
It’s crazy how that game got over 4000 visits last time I checked, but me and my friends (horrible) game Tangomangle island only got like 50 visits
This is probably why heroes online was removed, its a shame because i liked the game modes in that game
Although all the good reasons for them, it’s crazy how they shut a game with over 1.9B visits on Christmas. 😮
Bro this just reminded me how bad the world is at right now like everything you see is corrupt and like a small percent won’t
imagine hindering their own Platform , Engine , Development Potential. Despite saying vision is their focus yet the staff lacking it.
this wouldve been fine if it wasnt for the fact that they decided to try and reduce competition, which is the main reason we hate them
All I hear is straight facts techy, really good video and idk why gamefam isn't black listed of Roblox yet but yeah super good vid agreed with every point.
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoyed 🙏🏿
ur vids are great like how are u not at 100k subs even???
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
🤷♂️I try lol
U uploaded lets go
Wasted at least 120-150K Robux on AA. Was devastated because ive had all units including the strongest stats.
The one game that involves anime I actually put time into was blox fruits if they take it down I will cry I spent hours upon hours unlocking levels and items, it’s one of the few good anime games on Roblox at the moment.
Man ngl i was a mad fan for funky friday and fnf and i know that fnf was dying at that point and youtubers were moving from the game and it was just about time to die but it would be fun to play at some times. But game fan really had to end it like this. I haven't played ff for 5 months now amd because of gamefan i dont even want to think about it. Ty for uploading this video and many others taking out the problems of roblox games
I have an idea what if. We the players (who can code and have a good leader) make a game studio and ask official licenses like, my hero, sonic, SpongeBob. I feel like WE can change it.
gamefam took down my 2 fav games at the time i was bored asf for half a year
I swear if they even put there scruffy little Cheeto paws on astd, blox fruits or tell seas there gonna get raided by there fans
Oh I think the backlash from us might of took the mha”battlegrounds” game down
ok so the reason that heroes battlegrounds isnt taken down is because theyre just using the powers of the characters not the characters themselves but for nomu idk
The strongest battlegrounds players about to weep when gamefam buys the one punch man license.
U should play a very underated game named “pwned ateternae memori”
tried ASTD it looks, and feels so old. units are clunky. heck even when a unit dies they keep running which is confusing cause how am i suppose to know if i got a leak or not
imagine gamefam HQ's address just got leaked suddenly, that would be crazyyyyyyyy
@RareGhazt.
5 ай бұрын
@user-ke2no9xk8e someone leak gamefam HQ's address so we can revolt.
The only thing i hope for is that sonic speed simulator will still get updates
currently as im writing this the mha game that was made by gamefam has 0 players and is still in "beta" with the 99 robux cost to even be able to play. What a sad excuse for a game idk why they havent deleted the entire experience
Finally a new video from Techy talking about a crispy topic :)
@TechyOP_
5 ай бұрын
👍🏾
It gets worse on how Gamefam deleted all of straw hat pirates sonic items
BRO they even took down the OG AFS(anime fighting simulator) game I used to play it every day😩
I am really miss old gamefam back then theres a NFL event and sonic event but after they charged and they starting deleting anime games
I feel like what mainly needs to be done is roblox making it so company's cant make their own games on the platform and have it strictly be stand alone dev's
I hope once this is all over I can play anime adventures again
We already hated them after the Funky Friday Sonic speed simulator shenanigans, now its ON SIGHT
Oda: no, i heard wat u did
I really loved sonic speed simulator but they just started adding so many skins for robux or hours of grinding for skins and they added robux for gambling for pets that give insane buffs. I am just sad about it and I know it wouldn't have been great if it didn't have this stuff since its a simulator I just liked it.
im not even joking i've played my hero mania on the date of release and i still played to this day i didnt notice that it was gone until this video I am truly pissed off now
Fun Fact: Dragonball Legendary Powers 2, a low quality roblox game that hasn't updated since 2020 if I'm correct- has the same if not more players than the gamefam my hero game
Btw, im pretty sure the reason why heroes battleground didnt get deleted is because they cant just DMCA a game for having a character that can punch with blue flames or can use fire and ice
@powermeat3872
5 ай бұрын
but doesnt hero battleground have the entire 1 to 1 nomu model for the boss fight
Im pretty sure that Heroes battlegrounds wasnt taken down due to the characters names only being similar to the mha verse, the moves arent really based off the anime or manga either
I would be incredibly sad if astd got taken down even tho the gameplay is just starting at your screen for 10 minutes clicking every once in awhile