That is a reason why Breaking Bad couldn't have taken place in France. Medical expenses for cancer are fully reimbursed. So, it will have been just a TV series about a teacher. Wait ... That should explain the scenario of so much French TV series 😀 Thank you Baguette Bound for your videos. It is so useful to have an outside viewpoint on our country and to realize that, at the end, "Pas mal non ? C'est français".

@safedreams6241

Ай бұрын

fun facts: french series are also financed by heavy taxes! It's called France Télévisions

I’m French and retired. I’ve contributed all my life to Sécurité sociale and a mutuelle. I made very few visits to doctors for most of my life. But three years ago, I was diagnosed with a cancer of the prostate. Everything went very fast: I had surgery (robot assisted), a week in hospital (yes, the food was awful!), countless checks and lab and so on, all covered by the ALD. I don’t even know how much the system had to pay as except for a few euros (maybe 200), nothing came from my pocket. And my younger brother suffered from an hepatitis. He had a liver transplant 10 years ago, a few months in intensive care due to some complications in a top hospital in Marseille, incredibly expensive antiviral drugs… I cannot figure out what the real cost of this procedure is (including the helicopter to bring the replacement liver from who knows where) All taken care of by the ALD. I doubt he had to pay more than 1000 euros for optional extras. So I don’t complain when I have to pay a mandatory 2 euros each time I go to the doctor (the so-called reste à charge, which has doubled recently.

@AnnM223

Ай бұрын

Do you happen to know if organ transplants are reimbursed 100% for care and meds? Thank you.

@KBinturong

Ай бұрын

⁠@@AnnM223 from an American perspective yes

@ahoj7720

Ай бұрын

@@AnnM223 Organ transplants are paid 100% for everything, directly to the hospital. But there is no priority. There is a list of potential receivers, whose identities are hidden from the regulating authority (France Transplant). They are ranked according to multiple criteria (age, family, biological data, ...) and when a donor is "available", the organ is sent for transplant to the first compatible receiver (who then ceases to be anonymous, of course). The identity of the deceased donor remains hidden. Until the last minute, nobody knows who is going to receive the organ. It's a triple-blind system. My brother had to keep his essential belongings with him, the transplant was performed with a half-day notice. He is doing well to this day. Without a liver transplant, he would have died 10 years ago...

@Alex-mp1zb

Ай бұрын

@@AnnM223 Yes, absolutely, just like any illness requiring long-term treatment.

@uweinhamburg

4 сағат бұрын

All the best for you! I hope you recover to the best possible for your situation. As an elderly man, i can relate to your situation! Not having to worry about money must be a great support for someone who has problems enough at the moment..

You know that in France many people are still complaining about our medical system … But they don’t realise how lucky we are here compared to other countries

@Findalfen

Ай бұрын

Hear hear

@dooley-ch

Ай бұрын

People all over Europe complain about the state of their healthcare system - which is a good thing because it keeps the pressure on the politicians to maintain and improve it.

@vukkulvar9769

Ай бұрын

And we're right to complain about it. Complaining lead to improvements. Not complaining lead to degradation.

@PyromancerRift

Ай бұрын

Cheap is one thing, available is another thing. When it's rare and cheap it become unavailable. This is why it became so expensive in the US. If doctors had no need to work 80h a week, prices would drop.

@babelbabel2419

26 күн бұрын

@PyromancerRift I'm afraid the long hours do not explain the insane healthcare prices in the US. Long hours already mean big revenue due to the number of patients seen per day. But the price of a single consultation is already sky high. The same goes for medication. Everything is much much more expensive than in Europe. For worse results... You can get the best healthcare in the world in the US if you can pay but it's also one of the least efficient systems in the world.

I'm a type 2 diabetic and I know how lucky I am to live in my country. I'm also very happy to pay my taxes :) Historically, social security was the brainchild of our resistance fighters (CNR: Conseil National de la Résistance) during the Second World War. The idea is SOLIDARITY towards our sick and elderly (retirement). Long live Jean Moulin (he unified the French Resistance) and General De Gaulle (father of the 5th Republic, among others...). From Cambrai (North of France)

@lazyshoggy

27 күн бұрын

And long live Ambroise Croizat too, father of our Social Security !

If you're an employee, there also some dedicated center with doctor you must see regulary (maybe every 2/3 years). It's called "la médecine du travail". The main goal is to make sure you're healthy enough to do your work and help you if you have health problems. It's totally free of charge and those doctors can help you like any regular doctor. They can even see you more often if they have a good reason. For instance I had one of those visit in April, the next one is in July. Few years ago, the doctor related to my work helped me so much by being the one to identify why I what always exhausted (I was able to fall asleep in the middle of a sentence). He addressed me to the right specialist and used his relation to avoid any delay to schedule a visit with the appropriate specialist. Thanks to this doctor my life turned from being a zombie to an absolutely normal life in few weeks.

Hi american friends. Very happy that you can, as a family, enjoy the french way of living, and most of all, settle down in our beautiful country. May be some of your fellow citizens will realize that French do things differently sometimes, but it is not automatically stupid ou less efficient. Soyez les bienvenus, nous sommes contents de vous voir heureux en France. Arnaud de Brest (Atlantic coast, Brittany)

@tomwalton6425

Ай бұрын

I think we, European do most things better

Early on in our life in France my husband needed emergency abdominal surgery - scans, surgeon, intensive care, follow up. The surgeon said there would be an out of pocket payment. I cringed, thinking of a really huge out of pocket payment in another country of residence (not USA) - we had to raid the pension fund to pay. When he said €12 I nearly fell off the chair. We also paid €50 per day for a private room (you don't have to opt for that). So the Carte Vitale plus our Mutuelle covered over 90%. Cataract surgery is similar. Dentistry: I paid €1200 out of pocket for one implant. For regular check ups with 180° x-ray the out of pocket is very low. A Mutuelle insurance is well worth it. Also, as you get older and can't drive the Assurance Maladie will pay your transport costs to specialists by VSL-Véhicule Sanitaire Léger (taxi-ambulance).

As a french citizen I must thank you for reminding me that I and my fellow grumpy citizens (and you now) , are so lucky to live in a country who takes care of everyone, even if it costs a lot of taxes to us and it's still not perfect.

@albertkeller9084

Ай бұрын

For how long ? Ultra high taxes that aren't preventing the huge state deficit. The fact that imports hugely exceed exports does not help.

@almamater9566

Ай бұрын

It is Indeed not perfect but according to thé WHO it is the best healthcare system worldwide. And sûre we pay taxes for that. But at least out taxes benefit us. They also cver education for example, among many other things. In thé US if you add federal, state and local taxes, health insurance, medical bills, prescription drugs, they actually spend much more. For terrible outcomes. The American healthcare system ranks last on thé OECD accessibility and affordability ranking.

@thordsalmond8189

Ай бұрын

it's not luck. Don't forget that it was our very grumpy elders who fought to have what we have. Grumpy of course because it is not with smiles that we obtain anything.

@pinkunicorn3373

Ай бұрын

@@albertkeller9084 Le déficit de la France est plus du à une mauvaise gestion de l'argent publique que du à la sécurité sociale.

@safedreams6241

Ай бұрын

As a French person who works a lot, I contribute with my very high taxes to take care of people who do nothing. and contrary to what is said, medicine is not good, it is very difficult to find doctors because they are not paid enough in this system therefore not enough vocations. During covid we were helped by Cuban doctors 🤭 there is a happy medium between the American liberal system and the French communist system

As a french guy, I am quite happy to see that other people from other places appreciate our "social security system" and its positive outcomes. Remember that we pay a lot on our salaries for this. For instance, when I made 3 000 Euros a month, my boss payed ca. 5 500 euros, 3 000 for me, and 2 500 for the various social protections, i.e. health, loss of jobs, retirement... And out of these 3 000, I payed about 18% in extra contribution for the above cited benefits. We want to keep this system working for the benefit of most of us, and that's why the trade unions and other various composants of the society are often fighting, resulting in social mouvements and strikes.

@AnnM223

Ай бұрын

Thank you for that! In the US they deduct a lot for Medicare and Social Security from our checks, but do not provide quality health care to people who need it. When you retire you still pay for medical services 😮

@larrydeparis9802

Ай бұрын

C'est normal de payer des impôts cela permet d'être généreux quand on est radin de nature !

@calahan59

Ай бұрын

Je n'ai rien contre ce couple et je leur souhaite de vivre heureux en France mais si on regarde la "big picture" le fait qu'il y ait de plus en plus de personnes venant de pays étrangers riches (US, UK, etc) qui viennent s'installer en France n'est pas une bonne chose et montre que notre pays est en déclin économique. La France devient un peu comme le Maroc ou le Portugal pour les retraités français.

@xAceTiiKz

Ай бұрын

Il faut dire que, on a jamais été autant imposé et ça n'a jamais été autant le bordel il y a quelque chose qui ne va pas, notre pays doit reprendre sa souveraineté

@HenriBourjade

Ай бұрын

​@@xAceTiiKzIl ne faut pas exagérer. La qualité des soins de santé à l'hôpital, par exemple, suit les progrès technologiques et ne cesse de s'améliorer. Et, forcément, ça a un coût.

Yes, it's certain that for an average American the French health system seems fabulous, especially for a man like Jason with diabetes, but all this didn't happen with the wave of a magic wand, it was years of struggles, strikes, political battles, it has been going on since 1936 and the French have fought to get there. I often hear “the French are the kings of strikes and social movements”. Yes, that is true but all of us as a people have and continue to fight for these benefits. We elect our government but when we disagree with it we know how to make it understood and not always peacefully (Louis XVI could have testified).😉 ((If he had kept his head on his shoulders)).

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

The protest culture in France is a beautiful part of the democracy here. Sometimes, I hear people say the French complain a lot, but I disagree. You don't create someplace incredible like France by being satisfied with the status quo. I see the French "complaining" as not settling!

@CROM-on1bz

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound For our President of the Republic we are "refractory and complaining Gauls" which for him is an "insult" but which for us, Gauls is an honorary title, proud of our ancestors and their combative and rebellious spirit.

@brunomathon2279

Ай бұрын

Our health system is no longer the result of social struggles. But rather experts. It was built around 3 main stages: initially more on an insurance model by companies after social struggles (19th century), then insurance on a national scale after the 2nd World War with the payment of social contributions on pay slips. (it is the fruit of the republican ideals of the resistance fighters), then a totally universal system with financing by tax at the beginning of the 90s (the fruit of the experts to ensure national solidarity). The two main models of social protection are those of Bismark in Germany and Beveridge in England. The French system is mixed. It was that of Bismark which more and more resembles that of Beveridge.

@Shornaal13

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound Precisely! We don't complain just to complain - it's a way of keeping people accountable, not settling for mediocre conditions, and ensuring that our quality of life doesn't erode as fast as it seems to do elsewhere. (And honouring the people who made said quality of life possible after long struggles.)

In french : Merci pour votre vidéo déjà et heureux que vous vous plaisiez en France. Maintenant, je vais pouvoir faire mon français râleur ( lol), la sécurité sociale et le système de soins sont financés par des COTISATIONS sociales et NON pas des CHARGES. La différence est importante car ceux qui aimeraient privatiser la sécurité sociale entretiennent sciemment la confusion dans l'esprit des gens. THANK YOU for your video and thank you for sharing your experience with us.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out. I love the spirit of the difference in that word. It reflects the values I see in the French social system. We will be sure to remember in the future and I thank you for the correction.

Thanks for yours videos and thanks for reminding French people why they pay taxes. Bonne journée.

I'm a nurse working in the French hospital system (for over 20 years now) and yes, our health service is pretty impressive However, it's broadly similar to most european countries, and not as good as some Scandinavian ones. Also, many poor people DO NOT have a mutuelle, there are enough doctors in the "nice" regions (looking at the map you are in the south west?) but far fewer in the post-industrial north, for example. Also, wait until you are over 65 to see how much your mutuelle will start costing you. Social inequality still plays a part, although no doubt less than in the States.

@hervedupont6955

22 күн бұрын

Les inégalités sociales😮 quand on importe le tiers-monde faut pas s'étonner

I am very happy to know that you can treat your diabetes with peace of mind. Like the vast majority of French people, I think it is normal for vital care to be fully covered by social security. The right to live in good health is a fundamental right in France, and I am proud of it. There is also a law in France and in the European countries of the Sheingen area that allows to have a visa for medical reasons, for foreign people suffering from a disease for which no treatment is available in their country of origin and this includes all kinds of surgeries. And I’m proud of that, too. Do you know that when you pay you can ask your doctor for the "tiers payant". This allows you to pay only the non-refundable portion. And so most of the time you will not pay anything at all. ;-)

I recently had heart issues. I spent 2 month in the hopital. They put me a heart pacemacker, did a ton of medical exams.and took many medicines But as it is a ALD, it cost nothing to me (only a few meals that I took in the main restaurant, as the food was horrible). Happy to see that you are happy in France !

This was extremely helpful since we’re moving there in September. Thank you!

@tomwalton6425

Ай бұрын

Are You prepared to learn French?

A lot of doctors have a buzzer linked to their waiting room's door. If you hear a small buzz during your doctor's appointment, someone walked in.

Excellent video! Thank you. As Americans experiencing the US health care system (as an employee, student, professor, and now retiree), we have received unpredictable bills: $8,500 full body MRI with our deductible being $500, which astounded our neurologist and primary bc they do not know the costs; dental procedures costing us $500-$2,500 for root canals, fillings, bridges, implants; and scary weekend dentists charging as much without the clean office. It's crazy! My wife's MS has brought us up close and personal with the American way of [mis]treating patients. The France medical system is beautiful! We look forward to applying for the Long Stay Visa (after our PDX condo sells) and moving to France. I reached out to a French neurologist (and scholar) who responded to my email with copious amounts of links and advice about which areas of France are better suited for someone with Multiple Sclerosis. In the US I aggressively argued with Social Security for Cindy to receive disability: lawyers, politicians, and exams later, almost 3 years of in-court fighting. Ridiculous! Your videos are very helpful!!!! Merci! Dean & Cindy

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Wow. Just wow. But totally relatable. Good luck with your move!

@pinkunicorn3373

Ай бұрын

It hurts my heart so much to see all the problems you have just because your partner has a long-term illness. Thank you for your testimony and I look forward to your coming to our country for your care! Good luck to you! How can the world's leading power allow its citizens to die? pfff

@DeanRamser

16 күн бұрын

@@pinkunicorn3373 Bonjour! Thank you for the message. We look forward to learning more about France and its rich history! Merci beaucoup! Dean & Cindy

I'm French and I also love paying my taxes (although for cultural purposes I have to complain about it sometimes) ^^ one thing that makes it easy to love is also that, pending being an employer or self employed, most of it is calculated automatically by the tax administration

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Lol, I love you mentioned complaining for cultural purposes. We didn't understand when we first arrived, complaining about things like prices, bureaucracy, etc. These are just how people bond. We would meet someone new and they would start complaining about something to us and our optimistic American selves were confused. Now we understand this is just participating in a nation sport. 😂

@Dizma56

Ай бұрын

​​@@BaguetteBound and not forgetting that always complaining about everything is what made the french healthcare system what it is today (and other things too). It can be buthersome but it is usefull because things can always be better! Loved the video have a nice day

Thank you both for this content! As my husband and I research different countries to relocate to, France is at the top of my list specifically for the healthcare. I truly appreciate the information you guys provide!

I spent two years in high school in Paris. One of my friends there became an MD and married a neurologist. One of their daughters recently attended medical school. Medical school in France is quite different than in the US in some ways. The big difference is that med school in France costs something like 2,000 euros per year in tuition. No one leaves medical school in deep debt, unlike in the US where the average debt load on completion is over $200,000. You start medical school straight out of high school. It's competitive to be admitted, but not highly competitive like US med schools. Apparently the first year is really, really hard and this is where they weed people out. Lots of students drop out or get pushed out based on how well they do. France, like every other country in the world other than the US, produces more generalist physicians than the US. Counter intuitively, this produces better health care results. Primary care is more important than specialist care and less expensive. So France produces physicians who aren't deeply in debt, covers every one who lives in France for far lower costs and produces better health outcomes. It's frequently rated the best health care system in the world.

@BaguetteBound

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for adding this perspective. Good information. Thanks for watching.

It is a nice touch to mention alternatives to doctolib!

Great video and totally relatable with our US and recent French medical experience. Good analogy on the lack of transparency in US healthcare cost akin to walking into a restaurant without seeing the menu. Case in point, we thought we did our due diligence in the US using in network to seek pain management help. We went to a urgent care facility which is supposed to be cheaper than ER. Turns out not only they charged us a US$200+ physician fee, they also tried to charge us a $1200 facility charge. After research, learned that these days US hospitals are buying up urgent care facilities to begin charging ER rates. Seriously, this is the price tag just for some painkillers and a patch?! In our recent outpatient surgery experience in France, even though we paid all cost out of pocket (temp stay here) , the full cost is not significantly more vs the cost after insurance in the US. We are also impressed by the efficiency with the Doc doing all the payment and insurance papers and letter on the spot. All in all, something is seriously wrong with the US healthcare system. How they charge patients are like "white coat" crime.

Kudos to the French National Health System! Beats the heck out of Canada’s and as I hear it, UK’s NHS as well.

There is a joke saying that when you have to stay at a hospital in France, the biggest bill you will have to pay will be the parking for your car !

Thank you so much for your videos and sharing with us your experience living in France. If possible, please make a video of how the France system addresses long term care, nursing homes and elder care. The respect and appreciation for elders in France as other countries in Europe is so different than in the states.

@polsteambeluga1827

Ай бұрын

I am French, my wife works in an ehpad retirement home (accommodation establishments for dependent elderly people). There are things to say about this subject that are not necessarily good even if everything is not bad either. There are private and public establishments for the elderly in France. the price of a place in these establishments is very high both in the public and in the private sectors between 1500 and 3500 € per month.... the quality of service is quite variable in the private and public sectors. this type of establishment is struggling to recruit caregivers and hoteliers this situation has worsened since covid. that said, this price includes the price of the room, meals and care, everything is included... the reality is often the lack of staff and the inability of the teams to fully take care of the residents as the families would like but also caregivers who suffer greatly from this situation. this is not a generality applicable to all establishments but the situation is deteriorating and prices are increasing in many places

Note that mutuelles are non-profit organizations, which is why they are affordable.

@laetitiafaivre6214

Ай бұрын

That's not totally true

This video makes me feel so proud of being French! Also so glad that our comprehensive solidarity system can benefit others! Welcome to our beautiful country (even tho you ve been installed for quite some time ahah)! 😊

medical desert is a thing but it's not everywhere, and sometime it's just for some specific stuff for exemple dermatologist or ophtalmologist. but if you have a emergency or a permanant health problem there will always be a solution even if it's less optimal. for people who plan to move here dont worry too much about that, french people deal with it, you will do just as fine. and you may learn to complain about it as well as we do. and if it's realy an emergency you wont die in the wood alone. i used to work for SAMU the emergency nation wide and i was at the time a regulator the job is to find you a professional it's part of a service named SAS (service d'accés aux soins). i remember calling doctors to ask them to receive a patient for fever, gastroenteritis, strange pain that need to be checked and other stuff like that, a SAMU doctor can also pick up the line for advice too. and you can also call them for ambulance of call the firemen they also have ambulances

Finally got here! Left Austin in Feb after planning for the last 6 yrs…phew - really enjoy hearing the perspectives of fellow Texans ; )

Your testimony is filled with thankfulness and this makes me appreciate again paying that much taxes knowing it will benefit those who need it Just like you said it’s not your fault being sick and it’s unfair to make people pay for something they are not responsible for

Your video’s are priceless! Thank you..

Don't forget Physical Therapist here in France it is call kinésithérapeute or Kiné which can include a real massage not all Kiné do this but it is cover as well ask your doctor I see one tomorrow for a bad knee & psychology psychiatry but check your doctor!

The best medical care system in the world oui et pour tous le monde ! C'est pour cela que je ne pourrais jamais vivre dans le pays de l' "American dream" non merci. Vous avez fait un très bon choix de changer de vie et vivre en France. Vive Baguettte Bound Vive la France

Very useful content. Thank you! :)

Hello guys. You are a lovely couple, you respect and enjoy the culture and you spread quite a lot of happiness around you. As a French person, it's an honor to pay taxes for valuable guests like you.

@gloriagreen1123

Ай бұрын

I believe this couple has a business which means they are paying taxes into the social system. But yours is a generous offer.

In Portugal, the National Health Service, financed by taxes and not by Social Security contributions, is free for millionaires or those who have no income. Covers medical emergency, ambulances, family doctor, hospitalizations, surgeries, cancer treatments, even the rarest, rare diseases, whose medicines cost millions of euros, insulin, home oxygen, CT scans, MRIs, etc. And like any foreigner, in case of emergency, access to everything free of charge, we have health tourists, and a law is being studied to prevent abusive cases

Thank you ❤

Thank you so much for your efforts .. greatly appreciated -Daniel (Paris)

Love your videos 🥰

Your videos are the best! So 101 about everything related to the nitty gritty of moving to France. Thank you so much! So helpful!

I'm also a type 1 diabetic. I live in Besançon, a small city in the east of France. Just yesterday, my diabetician told me he's moving to Turkey. He also told me that all of the other specialists in town have either retired or will retire soon and no one will replace them. Luckily, as a type one diabetic with an insulin pump, the local hospital will take me on as an outpatient. I'm considered a priority patient. So that's fine, I will not have the same personal relationship with my doctor, as they will change all the time, but I know I'll get a good follow up, the hospital will be up to date with all the new research and technical innovations and it will be completely covered by social security. But all of the type 2 diabetics will have to see their family doctors, which is not ideal as this will overburden them even further. So if the healthcare system is still good in France compared to other countries (like the UK and Ireland which I know pretty well), it's going downhill.

@KBinturong

Ай бұрын

Why the UK is bad ?

@Noelegamer

Ай бұрын

@@KBinturong it is more like american healthcare

@leaedt7614

Ай бұрын

@@KBinturong No, it's not like the American system. There is also universal coverage but it is underfunded. There are fewer hospital beds, fewer doctors. There are huge waiting lists for appointments and operations. But British people are very attached to their National Health Service and want to keep it. The Republic of Ireland, by contrast, is much more like the United States. There is no universal coverage, you need to get private insurance if you can afford it.

What an amazing video! So detailed and informative- great job! Thank you two for all of this great content. This is exactly why I want to move to France.

Thanks!

It's crazy eye-opening to listen to you tell us about your experience with the French healthcare system compared to the US. We dont realize how good we have it until outsiders comment on it. Let's fight to keep it a universal right and universal access to all :) Very happy that you had an easy time to find primary care doctors and specialists especially in the medical desert where you live. Fantastic news.

You can also get your sight tested for free in optical shops, it's a quite recent feature related to the lack of ophtalmologist availability in many parts or France. There's a name you gonna familiarize with when dealing with the French healthcare system, this name is Ameli... The way ALD is managed is related to the equality principle (there's a reason French Republic motto "Liberté Egalité Fraternité" is often written in front of many official buildings) : people with chronic health issues like diabetes, Parkinson's diease, Crohn's disease or cysttic fibrosis aren't (usually) responsible for these issues in the first place so it's normal for the cost of these chronic diseases to be shared by the community.

@elizzy8754

Ай бұрын

Yes - a short video on Améli would be good. Also Mon Espace Santé. If you are diligent about updating your health details it's really useful when changing généraliste. All your surgery reports can be found there (if you give universal access to health professionals). You can also add your "Directives anticipeés" (advance medical directives) to the file.

Great Video sorry im late to the party here. I hope to get my carte vitel soon, I was lucky in my area to be taken on by a DR before my carte vitel because of my age. They want people younger in France. and I am getting allot of assistance. I paid 28 Euros for a DRs visit

Im french and after living abroad for 20 years, I’m coming back to France. I’m very happy I found your video as it provides a lots of information. Thank you 👍

I am not used to comment videos on youtube but as a medical doctor myself I have to thank you for showing how lucky French people are to have such an healthcare system. If only they spoke English to understand… btw I do like your content. Happy to have you with us!

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Merci ! Et merci pour votre travailler ! 🙂

@Noelegamer

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound travail* mais sinon super vidéo

@dooley-ch

Ай бұрын

The French are not lucky, a form on universal healthcare exists all across Europe with many different models being used. I'm Irish by birth and Swiss by choice for me there is nothing surprising about the French system, because thid is normal for us.

@gigiatlas2364

Ай бұрын

Yeah we do speak English, thank you for your concern. Toujours une raison de râler hein ?

@padriandusk7107

Ай бұрын

Something tells me you'd be amongst the first to destroy that oh so great healthcare system because "Oh, don't complain, we french people are lucky to even HAVE doctors!". And i bet it's NOT bad intuition at all, Eric. For real.

Nice!

I'm a french doctor on shift right now, nice hearing you like our system. We are underpaid thought.

Great video and well balanced. My personal experience with the US medical system a few years ago back in Michigan was awful and insanely expensive, I did not have to worry about that as I was with my business insurance for this work trip; nevertheless for personal trips I make sure to be fully covered as I know how much it costs in some country like the US… You just did an error regarding the ambulance, the EMTs you called in the US who have been here SAMU (service ambulancier médical d’urgence) which opposite of the US have at least one MD in its team to shorten the medical care. It’d have cost you 0€. The cost for the ambulance is like for exemple you have a broken leg so you can’t drive to the hospital for your regular checks then it is was the physician would prescribe to you and what you’d have to order and pay. The emergency services are not charged here contrary to the US. Enjoy your life among us in France !

Paris born, Chicago raised... and in France for decades now. you call the taxe contribution "social charges" , though the term "charges social" is used, the correct term is "cotisation social" so "social contribution" in English. not much of a difference you might think. but I prefer "contributing" to my fellow countrymen's health than being "charged" for it. "charges social" is often used by the right. "cotisation social" by the left. but in the legal term is "cotisation social"

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

This is when being a foreigner shows. We're grateful to all our French viewers who have pointed this out because we didn't realize. The solidarity which the social framework supports comes through in the word "contribute," and if it's the proper name, we should be calling it that regardless. We thank you for the correction. 🙂

That ring is useful for us too don’t worry

I'm a French man with type 1 diabetes living in Japan. Although the Japanese system is way much better than the American one, I still can't get over the fact that in my country I would (directly) pay zero euro to keep being treated and therefore alive when here it's a real budget in our modest incomes. Although the policies of the last few decades are slowly but surely destroying our social system, France is still in the top three countries when it comes to public services, health included. I can only think of northern European countries, such as Sweden, to compare with my birth land. Great content guys! I love seeing France from your (foreigners) point of view. I can relate being a French person living and working in Japan.

Bonjour. Bienvenu en France!

i too have a chronic disease that's taken care of 100% in "ALD" by the state that won't be listed, the type of treatment you've been prescribed (anti interleukin in my case) sometimes can grant you access to ALD "hors-liste". anyway, happy to see people loving our country and lifestyles, happy our state could take care of your health, every developed country in the world should have this as a standard at the very least. take care, as a french i enjoy watching your videos :)

Here in the North, just across the US border we too enjoy our Universal Healthcare. We all carry our photo ID Health Card that needed when accessing medical services. Our Universal healthcare covers the cost for all citizens and Permanent Residents with Hospital care, doctors and specialists visits, lab tests, X-rays, eye exams, home care for the elderly or shut in, speciality care for diabetic patients, free dental care for youths and elderly, free prescriptions for seniors, etc.🇨🇦

Welcome to the civilised world, guys! Enjoy your stay!

À regarder par tous ceux qui aiment se plaindre de leurs impôts en France ! Ils sont tellement nombreux.

Hi did I miss the house reveal - excited to see your home woohoo

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Nope!

This was so informative! Thank you for your time! Have a glass of wine and some cheese for me:-)

@BaguetteBound

9 күн бұрын

Thank you!! 🧀🍷😊

Forgot to mention that in my small town, a nurse will come to your home take your pre-breakfast blood test. Nurses also do post surgical care at your home. The whole network of medical services including midwives, physiotherapists, speech and hearing therapists is also worth a look. No or very low out of pocket for these ancillary medical services. Elder care is a vast subject but worth studying if you have parents living with you.

We live in the Netherlands, and our health insurance costs us 160 euros/month per person it covers everything. (my wife is a diabetic type 1 as well) On top of that, we pay 385 euros out of pocket per year. In 2027 this will be reduced to approx. 180 / year. We spent a lot of time I'm France over the last couple of years and understand your enthusiasm.

Hi, in France most primary doctors are independent workers (médecin libéral). They invest in a cabinet - purchased or rented - with the necessary equipment. They put a sign on the door and they are all set. This is especially true in rural areas. The French average is 1 primary doctor for 700 inhabitants, so in a small town of 5,000 inhabitants there will be like 7 "généralistes" and, the prices for real estate being affordable, they usually can operate individually, in which case they almost never employ any personnel. In the big cities they usually partner with other doctors to share the burden of the real estate cost and they usually employ one or several non-medical assistant(s) whose main role is to take appointments and welcome the patients. Then of course there are medical centers, clinics and hospitals where you can also consult with a primary doctor, in which case they usually are employees. And finally, some, mostly specialists, have a mixed status with a private cabinet - more lucrative - "in town" but also either a part-time work contract or a commercial contract with a clinic or a hospital.

What I don't understand is if your waiting two weeks to see your doctor ( its the same where I live in brittany ) how are you supposed to get sick pay or time off? If you get the flu or a cold and need to see a doctor for a sick note, it will be gone by the time you get there ! This has happened a few times to me over the years and I just have to continue working, risking injury in the process which has also happened a few times with broken fingers and muscle damage and that is only in the last 2 months. The first time my hand was broken and it needed a rod inserted, I filled out the documents and my boss did the same but they never accepted it and he had to just give me holiday time pay. RANT COMPLETE.

twenty years ago, it was even better...

@nathanangelus

Ай бұрын

So true ! It was more caring and less capitalistic....

@safedreams6241

Ай бұрын

@@nathanangelusThe communist system which does not pay doctors does not create many vocations

@Belaziraf

Ай бұрын

@@nathanangelus But not foreigner or user friendly. Forms to fill to send, calling back to get an appointment and wait for a whole day and hope paperwork can be solved on that one day.

@jean-pascalesparceil9008

Ай бұрын

The lack of medical doctors now happens because twenty years ago, the number of medical students was too, limited.

It's funny to see that the channel is dedicated to Americans who want to move to France, and in the end it's watched by French people who want to know how Americans assess and judge their health education system, a kind of therapy to combat the usual gloom in France. Thank you to our American friends for bringing us their optimism and open-mindedness.

@rouvenvolz7624

Ай бұрын

I'm german and it's the same on channels of americans live in germany. Best wishes and stay hopefull!

@user-dj8zk1rl2f

Ай бұрын

yep, i'm french too. always intersting to have an other point of view. but why i ended up here??? let's all thanks YT algorithme lol

I look forward to Saturday mornings for your videos. This was definitely one of my favorites. Heading to Nice in October, and look forward to not having to pay almost a $1k a month, with higher co-pays and about $7.5k in a deductible.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Ugh, yes! I realized after we recorder, I forgot to say that monthly rate for our US cobra was AFTER an $8000 per year deductible! It's nuts. Thank you for the kind words and watching. Good luck with your move!

@Francebound2024

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound Ouch!

@pinkunicorn3373

Ай бұрын

@@Francebound2024 Many countries like to spit on France. It is also a sport among the Anglo-Saxons. But I love my country and what it can offer to those who take the time to integrate.

@Francebound2024

Ай бұрын

@@pinkunicorn3373 every country has its pros and cons...but it is how people are treated within the country that matter. There are many things that I've seen and heard that make me excited to live in this country.

@leandrahill

27 күн бұрын

@@BaguetteBound "Only" $8000 per year? For a couple? It's a steal...LOL. As a single person in my late 50s I pay $1,200USD per MONTH for my private healthcare insurance (self employed)! Plus deductibles and copays. Just a sad system ruled by corporations (and lawyers)...nobody cares about anything but $$$.

Very interesting vid which should be seen by hundreds of French people !! Dear Raina and Jason, what is your goal behind that? Having 350 millions of US citizens migrate here? 😂😂 I'm kidding of course. Love your vids and love the fact that I can understand you (without subtitles!!). I sincerely hope your experience here will be the best you can wish.❤

@leandrahill

27 күн бұрын

kidding, yes...but also somewhat true. That is the danger of all these types of "move abroad for a better life channels". As I watch these, hundreds or thousands of people that make these videos, one has to wonder if there will be anyone left in the USA soon? Look at the cost of living in Portugal now after the last 4 years. They have finally had to remove the tax incentives to move/retire there as it got overwhelming for the locals in Lisbon, Porto and other places. Panama City now is very expensive. Phuket Thailand costs are very high. And on and on. Most of the people moving to these locations have plenty of money, they just want an even "better" life. Not that I'm minimizing the dismal state of the US healthcare systems at all - it is a horrible system. But the impact on the locals where everyone is moving to is also very real! At this point I'm conflicted that I might contribute to the problem...I'm working through this but this is what I think after watching all these videos. I want to contribute to my 'new' place and not just see what benefit I can get out of it and to hell with the consequences of my actions.

Love your videos Reina and Jason , we need more people like you in France for sure 😄 . All props to Juliana to bear 2 Yankees like you lol . Love and respesct from Fresnes . A bientôt Baguette Bound Family .

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Merci ! But we are not Yankees (thats New Englanders)...We are Texans! 😜 lol, the US is so big we have names for each other! Thanks for watching. 😊

@Flobyby

Ай бұрын

I think from Europe's point of view, only Yankee and Cowboy register as being distinct ^^

@jean-pascalesparceil9008

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound But you don't wear ten gallons hat, cowboy boots and a revolver on your belt! Have you met JR Ewing or Walker the Texas Ranger?😜

@pinkunicorn3373

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound "Six flags over Texas" including that of France. You're going home in a way!

@Noelegamer

Ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound for the north it’s yankee but for the south what is it ?

I just joined your channel.... would love to have a video tour of your home 🏡 in France!!

yes I have to wait 8 months for a primary care doctor in Central Oregon!!! Jacqueline

Loving you guys videos as I am considering a move to France with my spouse. Can you discuss the weather in France? Specifically those areas that have four distinct seasons. We would both enjoy having snow in winter. Thanks Wayne

@budapestkeletistationvoices

24 күн бұрын

They live somewhere near Bordeaux.. it's a warmer area. However the mountain range Pirenées are near where there's snow. If you want to experience four seasons move to somewhere in the middle or east. The south has a Mediterranean climate and snow isn't a frequent occurrence unless you live in the Alps

great video, which shows how much we have to protect that system, it used to be better and we have to protect our healthcare system or we wont have one anymore. First we'll be like the UK, then the US. They're making it so that hospital is working less and less, and soon it will be so broken that most will turn to private and soon the gov will say since its not working let go full private, and then it will be the end of us.

I so wish there was universal healthcare in the US. The majority of the population is totally brainwashed and think that a Federal Healthcare is "Socialism" and that if they let it happen, the country will turn into Argentina. To think it is normal that Insurance companies dictate what doctor, what treatment one can have, if any is quite a "tour de force". Healthcare in the States is abysmal, to the point that the founder of the Ambulatory Hospitals recalled his trucks from third world countries to patrol American Walmart parking lots. When you get cases like a 26 years old diabetic dying because he can't afford the insulin, there is something truly wrong with healthcare.

@pinkunicorn3373

Ай бұрын

die at 26 from lack of insulin? terrible!

@CROM-on1bz

Ай бұрын

@@pinkunicorn3373 When we think of the hundreds of billions spent on weapons, such a small percentage of these expenses, 1 or 2% could be used for the health of Americans.

@galaxielbreizh3475

Ай бұрын

@@pinkunicorn3373 It is. It should never happen.

@leandrahill

27 күн бұрын

yes, I made a detailed comment above about this very attitude of Americans fearing change in its healthcare system. Just crazy. It is controlled by the corporations/politicians/lobbyists to feed this fear. People would rather pay a corporation and get poor service than do a system like the French. (yes, I'm American) But, oh it would increase my taxes! Ok ,so pay the outrageous premiums to a corporation instead along with high deductibles and copays...and denied claims...that IS so much better...sure. The executives of these corporations appreciate your "contributions". But people would expect the government run system to be "perfect" and then complain when it is not (I assume our EU friends do this frequently haha). But would it be OVERALL a better system? I believe it would.

@CROM-on1bz

27 күн бұрын

@@leandrahill I don't think that a perfect system exists anywhere on Earth, let's say that the French system seems more humane and more egalitarian to me, but no, perfect I don't think so either. As the motto of France is Liberty Equality Fraternity, it would be wrong to let your neighbor, even a poor one, die without doing anything. Humm given how I know my compatriots about this kind of thing, if it were repeated it would be an Xth revolution. (joking aside it's good not to have a revolution too often)😏

Here is a corrected version of your English text: Thank you for your videos. The comparison with America is very informative for all of us. You will make an educational comparison when your daughter goes to university. Three of my daughters are in a French university studying medicine and law. I pay almost nothing: 300€ per year. Twelve years of medical school at 300 euros per year totals only 3600€ for a medical degree. How much would that be in the USA? Additionally, from the seventh year, they receive a salary.

I'm in a rural area in France and never had to wait more than a few days for an appointment with my médecin traitant in the next village (sometimes next day appt) and only two weeks for a non-urgent operation after referral to a surgeon.

France is the best in medical care like in so many other areas.

@mikebegonia6134

Ай бұрын

🤣 Really? Its standard European, same better same worse than its neighbors.

@georgeszurbach444

Ай бұрын

@@mikebegonia6134 you clearly havent got a clue about this subject .

@baguettebound what an excellent and encouraging video. Merci. During the 90 days prior to eligibility for the system, must I find my own coverage?

@BaguetteBound

3 күн бұрын

Depending on the type of visa you have, you may be required to acquire private health insurance before you arrive in France. We talk more about signing up for French medical insurance and what its like to use French healthcare before you qualify for the Carte Vitale in our 'Sign up for French Healthcare" video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioCrvLmpdpXehpc.htmlsi=wTqEwXUMJUB9wN3o.

@robintillotson5665

3 күн бұрын

@@BaguetteBound thanks so much

I am French, born and bred, and I think I understand why you don't find a medical desert where you live as you seem to live in Burgundy. So, in France, there is a large part of the country that we often refer as the "Diagonale du Vide". This is a part of the country that has the least number of inhabitants and usually goes from Mayenne to Provence (without PACA of course). In these areas, the struggle is real. There are few amenities of all types, doctors, post offices, there is even a department that has no national train station and has to rely solely on small local trains. I lived 26 years in Paris and I had no issues finding a doctor. I now live in Britanny (Britanny is the western arm of the country that goes into the Atlantic, not to be confused with Britain, that just the weird guys accros the channel, nevermind them, they do weird stuff). In Britanny, it is harder to get an appointment, but not by a lot. However, I lived in Moselle, and let me tell you the struggle was another level. It's really dependent on where you live. I hope this helps you understand better the situation in our country. :)

In the 60s during the Nixon era, the United States moved towards making medical care a commodity. Profit was a huge driver, and pushed our healthcare costs to about twice that of the next most expensive system in the world, with much worse coverage. Many people went along with it because they had good private insurance and thought if they lost that insurance they would be forced into a public system. Years of propaganda about how the wait times are so bad in Canada and you cannot see a doctor also tempered any type of change from the ever-worsening medical system. Industry lobbyists also make sure Congress never pass laws that actually help patients. Our system is a total wreck. Our system is unsustainable and fails to cover millions of people. Even the Medicare system, which I am part of, is expensive and getting worse. Another example of how America’s thirst for profit over people has ruined an industry. Thanks for your video.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Yes. I'll tell you part of the reason we wanted to make this particular video was not to encourage more people to move to France necessarily, but to allow other Americans to understand there are other ways to approach Healthcare out there and they work much better than what we currently do in the US. I genuinely hope that something like France has could be true in the US one day, but first my fellow countryman need to be able to see it and know so much of what we've been sold in the US about healthcare in other countries simply isn't true. Thank for watching!

@leandrahill

27 күн бұрын

@@BaguetteBound yes, this! I've made several (probably too many comments) regarding this above. Control peoples fear and you'll control their money!

Thanks for your very informatives videos. I need to ask; how's your french? Are you fluent, can you sustain a 15 minutes conversation in french yet? Maybe you could do a video on your efforts to learn french?

You two are so credible, thank you and thank you for the research! I'm curious, how did you research your mutuelle? I am absolutely overwhelmed and don't know how to make a decision. I had an agent to help me, but she came back with some astronomical quotes. Do you have any helpful links or guidelines? Thank you in wif you have the time to reply.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

We went to the agent we chose based on a recommendation from a few local expats who were happy with him. We really liked him, he explained everything well and we thought the quote was reasonable, so we didn't shop around much. It happened to be AXA. We've been happy with it so far. With the quote you got, look at what it includes...maybe it has much more than you need? Also, the medical costs are so much lower here, even for hospitalizations, depending on your financial and health situation you might decide you don't need one for now. We chose one because we knew we would use it, and Juliana our daughter might need braces, sp that alone makes it worth it. Maybe just try to get quotes from a couple more agents and see if you can compare apples to apples, think thing about if it really makes sense for you. Good luck!!

Thanks for this informative video! So I’m curious about the doctors in France.. I heard their, I guess you’d call it “bedside manner” is different than it is in the US? Are they really different than doctors in the US with patient interaction?

It can take many months, even more than a year to actually receive your carte vitale after you actually apply.

The moto of our Republic is Liberté, Égalité.... Fraternité so we pay a lot of taxes to help each others ie social securité is Égalité and Fraternity in health. It is our way of living and i like this costly but generous way of living. Wellcome in France

I hope you're gonna help fighting for social security. It seems our younger so-called french leaders are really influenced by us policies and trying their best to destroy it little by little to let the private sector benefit from it just like in the US. If medical care is attractive enough for us citizens to move in France, that reminded me of an abandoned US like neighborhood in the city of Evreux. It's called cité or quartier La Fayette and was for the US military. Since they left, most of the houses were somehow abandoned and vandalized. There was a project to replace them with buildings but fortunately I think they are renovating them right now....

This was so informative - thank you! Can I ask you to make a video about the political climate in France, especially as an American? My family and I are looking to leave the U.S. for many reasons and one of them being the political climate that is brewing/on the horizon. I've been trying to follow along with what is happening in France and the rise of Le Pen/Bardella. Do you see many French people supporting Bardella? What does the political climate look like on the horizon? Thank you so much!

In the US, I have blue cross blue shield private insurance. There’s usually a 2+ month wait to see primary. Specialties are also a long wait. My primary doc (Swedish Hospital clinic) won’t call me when there’s a cancellation. I have to keep checking online for any cancellations. Urgent care is impossible to get into due to the lines. I resorted to CVS Minute Clinic this last winter, which was awesome. Health insurance is a total mess here. We have a high deductible plan because it’s cheaper but it makes me not want to go to the doc because I have to pay the deductible. When I had my baby years ago, I researched each provider and hospital down to the anesthesiologist. Since I had an emergency c-section, the anesthesiologist that I chose was on vacay and I got stuck with one who wasn’t in my network. So we had to pay thousands for this doc. It was so stressful, especially after just having a baby. I was so thorough and did my homework and I still got reamed by the insurance company.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

UGH!!! This anesthesia thing is like the ambulance! I just don't understand how it's legal in the US to be billed thousands of dollars for things you have NO control over. I'm sorry. My hope in making this video is that my fellow Americans can see another system and understand it a bit more so it's less scary. What a dream if we could have something similar in the US someday.

@leandrahill

27 күн бұрын

@@BaguetteBound yes, agree. The scary boogie man of a single-payer / government run system to be feared by all Americans. The uneducated people's opinion. There is no perfect system but as American's constantly want to improve everything...it is truly amazing they are so close minded and complacent about a system that is so important to absolutely everything in life...without health there is nothing. They likely pay more in the current system and as the poster of this comment said, avoid care unless absolutely necessary. All just to enrich some corporation! So that is okay..rather give you money to a corporation than the government? Because the corporation will run it better than the government? Seriously? How's that been working out for ya? Of course this propaganda about single payer, government run healthcare is perpetrated by healthcare lobbyists and politicians to their fear mongering constituents while they laugh all the way the bank. Don't we already have a government run organization called Medicare? People over 65 don't seem so afraid of it...everyone who works pays in to without revolting or storming the capital over it. Is it perfect? I'm sure it is not. Being controlled by corporations or rich executives with a self interest in poor health outcomes ...is that really what Americans want? Not me.

I'm French but have lived in Quebec, Canada, for 22 years. It's the same here, only with one difference: I never pay at my doctor's, or I pay only my part, as the bill is only the part you have to pay. They deduct the national insurance and private insurance directly.

@deguilhemcorinne418

Ай бұрын

Le système québécois est bien (avec la Carte Soleil, très jolie aussi...), quoique un cran en dessous du système français (opinion d'un français) et il vaut mieux avoir une solide et couteuse assurance complémentaire pour bénéficier de bons remboursements et de prestations de qualité. La démographie médicale est le point faible, et malheureusement c'est ce qui nous attend en France.

@Vieux_rat75

Ай бұрын

@@deguilhemcorinne418 J'ai souvent entendu des canadiens se plaindre des frais de dentiste, non pris en charge par le système... 🤔

I am curious to know what happened to your medical records in the USA. Did you take them with you to France? How do your new doctors know your history? Is it from your oral presentation or do they have the records that you built up over time in the US?

where/how do you sign up after three months? Can you sign up online?

Hi. Do you plan to talk about being US person abroad regarding taxes.

Even as a French person I learn about the % breakdown on social insurance , I usually never check the payroll :) Btw , how was you experience about opening a bank account in France ? Was the bank not to reluctant … complicated KYC for American citizens.

Thank you so much for the clarity when it comes to France's health care and its workings! I appreciate all you guys do to inform people like me. We hope to visit Nice and Paris in the latter part of Sept. for a vacation. It's been a long time coming; we had a very sickly cat who just passed and 1 elder kitty left who needs meds (hopefully, his c/up will be fine and our visit will be a go). I admire your courage and the fact that you are making this move work. Needless to say, you are doing the work and settling in seems to be working out for you guys. We can't make a move until Simon passes! It's a dream for me; my spouse not on board yet. Many blessings and I look forward to your informative uploads.

QUESTION: As a future, permanent expat to France, does the Carte Vitel cover "pre-existing conditions?" The private health care we have to buy in order to receive our first One-Year residents' visas DOES NOT cover "pre-existing conditions." And how about a "Mutuelle" -- do they also exclude "pre-existing conditions?" This is VERY important for us to know, since one of us has a (stabilized) heart condition.

@BaguetteBound

Ай бұрын

Pre-existing conditions are covered by both public insurance (carte vitale) and complementary/mutuelle insurance. Your age will affect the cost of a mutuelle policy, but your heart condition will not.

and... the base costs are like, 10 to 15 time lower on average than in the USA...

Bonjour, je vais entrainer votre français en écrivant ce commentaire en français. Pour ajouter une petit plus a votre vidéo. Les personnes avec les aides social ne paye pas du tout pour les frais médicaux! total free. Le nom est la "CMU" complémentaire santé solidaire qui prend en charge l'intégralité des soins. Le patient ne dois même pas avancer les frais. Bonne continuation pour vos vidéos qui sont géniales.

@Vieux_rat75

Ай бұрын

En effet, tout est pris en charge, spécialistes, hôpital, y compris les lunettes ou les couronnes dentaires, pour les personnes à très faibles revenus. Il y a en fait deux tarifications pour la C2S (complémentaire santé solidaire) : - gratuite jusqu'à 10.166 €/an en 2024 pour 1 personne - payante (prix variable selon l'âge) jusqu'à 13.724 € (idem) C'est une sorte d'équivalent au Medicaid américain, mais - me semble-t-il - avec de meilleures garanties.

Yes, there are areas void of doctors in the country side, also wait times can be tricky depending on where you are. But the cost is the same for everyone, very low because the gouvernement negotiates with big pharmas in bulk to lower the prices. The subject is endless but if you're ill, you would better leave for Europe or Japan or Australia... or a move to a lot of other countries. USA is a great country but isn't for healthcare when you aren't a (very) wealthy citizen.