How Financial Firms Actually Make Money

Today we discuss the common misconceptions of retail traders regarding the algorithmic trading or more commonly termed ‘algo trading’. Here we dive into why finding alpha in today’s financial markets is non-trivial, and conflicts of interest present in financial markets.
Later in the video we discuss 3 trading strategies that are used as the foundation of most financial companies that participate in the financial markets. These strategies consistently make companies money and are the bedrock of companies providing financial services, or products in general.
Let’s aim to be pessimistic when people online promise that someone/anyone with a novice level of python experience can create an algo trading strategy that consistently makes money. I will endeavour to never give in to this fallacy and aim to point it out to my viewers on this channel.
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  • @andresbonelli
    @andresbonelli Жыл бұрын

    Every trading educator ever: -"Every other Strategies out there do not work. Read my book/take my course instead"

  • @MW7-Mark
    @MW7-Mark Жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of the old story about how selling shovels and mining tools to the gold miners in the 1800s offered more guaranteed success than to actually mine for gold. I suppose the same could be said for many industries: Publishing companies earn more money than authors, youtube as a media platform probably makes more money and has a more sure thing business model than an individual who starts a youtube channel.

  • @tashkronayt1273

    @tashkronayt1273

    Жыл бұрын

    brokerage firms earn more money than most successful traders

  • @nwoksh

    @nwoksh

    Жыл бұрын

    So your advise is for all of us to either open brokerage firms or quit trading and starve the brokerage firms into insolvency

  • @GlobusTheGreat

    @GlobusTheGreat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nwoksh It's an insight, not a call to action

  • @treadaar

    @treadaar

    Жыл бұрын

    KZread has always lost money actually.

  • @currencynews2045

    @currencynews2045

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @beolbeol8025
    @beolbeol8025 Жыл бұрын

    TLDR; He doesn't talk about winning strategies. He talks about fees and bid-ask spread.

  • @omairtech6711

    @omairtech6711

    Жыл бұрын

    So is it not that impossible to make money algo trading as this guy has us believe.

  • @tea.dubs8532

    @tea.dubs8532

    Жыл бұрын

    @@omairtech6711 its 100% possible. Banks dont trade manually. they trade our money with bots.

  • @MRT-co1sd

    @MRT-co1sd

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why he gave you the warning why KZreadr Traders are fakes.

  • @williammorris1763

    @williammorris1763

    6 ай бұрын

    Bad info, bad analogy. Maybe learn more about both before you make a video giving bad info on stuff like this. It almost amounts to a red herring.

  • @mobeenhussain1866

    @mobeenhussain1866

    6 ай бұрын

    His secret Alpha was to entice us to see the video from start to finish to avail KZread monitization.

  • @dawei6697
    @dawei6697 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great video. This is one of the clearest summary about the business models of the large institutions. I’m subscribing because I want to look at your older videos on python and ML. But I agree with Sarahvandistel though, the difference in target niche between institutional and retail traders means different decision-making strategies, hence computational models, should be used. I still think that algo trading for retail traders is a viable method. We just need to find the right strategy. Once we get rich we remain quiet about how we get rich 😂, like those who already figured it out

  • @freddy8873
    @freddy88732 жыл бұрын

    Love your work. This is the first video that prospective traders should be watching.

  • @sarahrafeal6412
    @sarahrafeal6412 Жыл бұрын

    The teachings on this channel are always top-notch, informative, and easy to understand. It's very hard to find good content online these days

  • @charleyluckey2232

    @charleyluckey2232

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you on everything, these days finding a financial mentor is a tough challenge which is why I am happy and grateful to have been introduced to my mentor Larry Kent Burton by a friend i made a lot of money in just two months working with him for just a small investment

  • @sarahrafeal6412

    @sarahrafeal6412

    Жыл бұрын

    Who exactly is this Mr. Larry? what does he do?And how can I take advantage of him

  • @susanbaxtron8422

    @susanbaxtron8422

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry for interrupting your conversation. I just wanted to add to everything, Mr. Robert is a miracle trader. He helped me grow my trading account from just $ 1000 to over $ 11000, I can confidently say anyone who invests with him, you are guaranteed to make profits

  • @charleyluckey2232

    @charleyluckey2232

    Жыл бұрын

    He is a financial advisor and investor. He helps people to better understand the financial markets, and he also does trading and investing on his or her behalf

  • @charleyluckey2232

    @charleyluckey2232

    Жыл бұрын

    Getting in touch with him is very simple. Just follow him on Instagram

  • @tylerschon900
    @tylerschon900 Жыл бұрын

    Really good and instructive video on financial services as a whole. That being said, I think the algorithmic trading tutorials you're referencing are still useful for getting from 0 to 1. That is, how can one get to a point where you're actually analyzing data and coding primitive trading strategies. Once you get from 0 to 1, then you have the tools you need to research deeper and more complex machine learning strategies.

  • @IIIIALBYIIII
    @IIIIALBYIIII2 жыл бұрын

    Love your video! Much appreciated. I also love that book. BT overfitting and ML. Backtesting is like cash

  • @abharani9265
    @abharani92652 жыл бұрын

    Love this video, I was searching for SOR and algorithmic trading on internet, thanks for sharing reality.

  • @user-md6xz4mq5v
    @user-md6xz4mq5v6 ай бұрын

    Your videos are like a rocket ship to success! Thank you for guiding us on this journey.😄

  • @Frootyloops629
    @Frootyloops629 Жыл бұрын

    i left when you claimed you have guaranteed strategies to make mony

  • @astroganov
    @astroganov7 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video. It's always good to remember that the financial market does not generate the money, it redistributes it. And if you don't see the one who is going to lose their money in the deal, it's probably you.

  • @jamisonmunn9215
    @jamisonmunn9215 Жыл бұрын

    An interesting rabbit hole is the channels financial incentive is KZread Ad revenue. If a video including "algo trading is fake" gets more views than an algo trading strategy video, you have to wonder are the strategy videos fake, or does calling them fake get you more views therefore more ad revenue?

  • @buyhighselllow8398

    @buyhighselllow8398

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats a pretty good fucking question. After watching half-way through this video I realised that I shouldn't be listening to people talks so much. I should spend more time working on my trading. Only experience and time will tell you what is the reality of trading algos. I will continue to develop my algo no matter what shit head on youtube says and see what happens for myself. I'm taking this video with a single grain of salt.

  • @RyeBreadSucks

    @RyeBreadSucks

    Жыл бұрын

    @@buyhighselllow8398 Seems like you're taking it with a whole mouthful of salt lol. Why so mad?

  • @buyhighselllow8398

    @buyhighselllow8398

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RyeBreadSucks I'm not mad, just frustrated that I haven't progressed with my trading because I'm always in the search for answers on KZread and end up wasting my time watching videos like these that discourage me to do my own due diligence. The main message I got from this video is that algo trading is extremely hard and that there is almost zero chance of making a decent algo that gives you consistent returns unless you're an institution with big pockets.

  • @johnnycash1933

    @johnnycash1933

    3 ай бұрын

    I hear you it takes alot of time trying to figure out and decide what to do and what to believe is a true way to make money and not a scam kind of scheme to get money from you

  • @pozloadescobar
    @pozloadescobar2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the thoughtful content! Very refreshing. I was beginning to think nobody but gurus and quacks created videos in this niche

  • @Silver_Recaps
    @Silver_Recaps3 ай бұрын

    Man I love this video man! you are truly good at explaining what a lot of people think is complex.

  • @taylorbruening
    @taylorbruening Жыл бұрын

    good stuff, keep it up! looking forward to more of this high-quality content

  • @patite3103
    @patite31032 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations for your work! Could you do a video diving on market making? I put a series of questions under your video "understanding market makers" that you could use to make another one diving into this subject. How can a market maker (MM) make money with the bid-ask spread when you have many market makers acting in the market? How can the information of the order book be used to make money for MM? Why should they buy order books from other brokerage firms if they have already access to the order book of the stock exchange? This is still unfortunately a big black box! Thanks

  • @QuantPy

    @QuantPy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I’ll make a video on all things market markers at some point

  • @sammclennan3661
    @sammclennan36612 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for keeping it real bro and not trying to sell me anything!

  • @darcebrooks5409

    @darcebrooks5409

    5 ай бұрын

    you are the product being sold

  • @fundvantage
    @fundvantage7 ай бұрын

    Your information is very comprehensive, and I have learned a lot. I am in the retail trading business, but I know very little about investment banking. Thank you for sharing, I'm starting to understand a bit more.

  • @sinan_islam
    @sinan_islam Жыл бұрын

    You are recommending a book written by Marcos Lopez De Prado. Marcos write very advanced books for audience with PhD. Most of the traders don't even know how to spell their name.

  • @danielzuluaga100
    @danielzuluaga10011 ай бұрын

    I am a huge fan of your channel, Mr. QuantPy. Concise explanations and a great accent!

  • @foto21
    @foto219 ай бұрын

    Interesting video. I've been trading 3 years, and I find it interesting that you and others think it's impossible to find reliable alpha. Nothing is absolute, but direction is still a 50/50 break, which is better odds than many places. Plus, there are many different areas in the market, all of which follow patterns. However, what is scary is the ability of market makers to swill in the info of retail buyers before essentially going against the majority of them. That does seem to possibly be a bridge too far.

  • @realtimeforextraderthebrut8571
    @realtimeforextraderthebrut8571 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating video... Thank you for sharing... Always good to share knowledge and bring light to a topic...

  • @jb_makesgames2264
    @jb_makesgames22642 жыл бұрын

    New Subscriber - great video - a fellow fan of Dr, Prado

  • @TheIrkenSIR
    @TheIrkenSIR Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for being the voice of reason. I only wandered down this rabbit hole because I work in the sector and the implications of algorithm and api programming calls is an interesting subject.

  • @dima6488

    @dima6488

    Жыл бұрын

    API programming calls? First time I hear someone talk like that lol

  • @dataanalystbynight4375

    @dataanalystbynight4375

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dima6488what surprises you about him saying that, I guess it is not technically correct?

  • @dima6488

    @dima6488

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dataanalystbynight4375 Because no one who actually works "in the sector" (i.e developer) talks like this, since "Application Programming Interface Programming" doesn't make the slightest of sense

  • @currencynews2045

    @currencynews2045

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @pjakobsen
    @pjakobsen2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, and thank you so much for your great channel.

  • @user-bz4ml8fg1r
    @user-bz4ml8fg1r6 ай бұрын

    Your trading strategies have helped me make consistent profits. Thank you for sharing them with us!

  • @MADgamer9212
    @MADgamer92122 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You should make a video or series about the history of alpha. What sort of alpha strategies have been used in the last 10 years compared to the last 50 years or something.

  • @QuantPy

    @QuantPy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion, I will try and work this in soon!

  • @vishalnangare31

    @vishalnangare31

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QuantPy thanks you for your great work 🙏

  • @Sciptopia

    @Sciptopia

    9 ай бұрын

    @@QuantPywhere is the video? Have you made it?

  • @csilipo
    @csilipo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. There so many brokers out there - only selling crap! I’ve seen so many trading academies selling some of special platform (only theres) are able to make money. There business model are just selling a "crap education packages" starting at around $2k to $15k. Carlo

  • @fromzerotospyro
    @fromzerotospyro Жыл бұрын

    those were not profitable trading strategies those were profitable business models..misleading title

  • @davidabner8885
    @davidabner8885 Жыл бұрын

    I am currently living off of my Algo trading gains. Took close to a year and around $27,000 in losses before I figured out how to become profitable. It's not as easy as it seems, but it's not entirely impossible

  • @C-ly-de

    @C-ly-de

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you you're giving me hope I'm currently looking forward to learn python probabilities and finance to get an algorithm working. Can I ask about your studies or how much time did it took to be successful ?

  • @paulnyagini

    @paulnyagini

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@C-ly-demathematical when person claims he is profitable in reality means he is not.

  • @C-ly-de

    @C-ly-de

    6 ай бұрын

    @@paulnyagini yeah ig sooo...

  • @amj864
    @amj8642 жыл бұрын

    Good work. Pretty much agree with you. Finding alpha is hard but not impossible. Technically speaking retail can do market making in the crypto.

  • @xunningliu

    @xunningliu

    Жыл бұрын

    How do you get initial liquidity for the AMM and compete against other big players such as uniswap?

  • @amj864

    @amj864

    Жыл бұрын

    @Xunning Liu I was talking about market making in centralized exchanges like binance. Making AMMs are not retail friendly.

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    Жыл бұрын

    If you’re paying ‘gas’, you’re not market making😂

  • @zAngus
    @zAngus Жыл бұрын

    Good vid. Nice to see another Aussie. Subscribed.

  • @ShubhamKapoor
    @ShubhamKapoor Жыл бұрын

    What most retails traders think that Alpha is just the excess return over the benchmark, whereas you have to consider risk adjusted return to compare it to benchmark. It is not alpha, if you beat the benchmark with over exposed and leveraging into riskier positions. And yes, it is not consistent as well.

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    Жыл бұрын

    Very much agreed! So many algo-Tubers never show the MAE of their trades, nor show e.g. Sharpe Ratios.

  • @axe863

    @axe863

    6 ай бұрын

    Estimating Alpha is an ML problem.

  • @csilipo
    @csilipo Жыл бұрын

    I would like to see maybe how these python ML products work? Just a simple demonstration. Can you find the ‘alpha’ with python? It is a curious question - can statistic modelling produce the desired outcome? Carlo

  • @hasanx8317
    @hasanx83173 ай бұрын

    The gold analogy is very good. And yes, nowdays alphas can't be found with a seive, they need to be studied with academic high-level data science approach. Just the same way these new gold mining machinery is designed and developed

  • @irvinrodriguez5360
    @irvinrodriguez5360 Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. It's something the internet needs.

  • @FreeMarketSwine
    @FreeMarketSwine Жыл бұрын

    Curious what you think of guys talking about support/resistance, breakouts, scalping, etc. A lot of it seems harder to condense down to a fixed set of rules (and therefore difficult, if not impossible, to backtest), but you hear a lot of the same ideas coming from different people.

  • @user-vi4zr1sx6k
    @user-vi4zr1sx6k6 ай бұрын

    firstly thank you very much for your tutorials. Can you indicate a book or training focused in technical analisys? I'm a beginner and I need to learn more about it to be a good operator on this market. Thank you!

  • @kengc3
    @kengc3 Жыл бұрын

    An additional benefit to “quant” trading that has nothing to do with Alpha is the elimination of emotion: as long as you can truly follow your systems. Having a system can be as simple as never going long when the asset you are looking at is below it’s 200 day moving average. This sounds almost idiotic in it’s simplicity, but I would say that 90% of all people I have shared this technique with have been unable to follow it, let alone anything else that is more complex. Following a simple 200 day rule could be the first step in reducing volatility and drawdown in your portfolio, thus making it more emotionally easy to actually stay invested. I’ve used this technique (along with a lot of more complex ones) as part of my toolbox for over 30 years and it has helped me out significantly.

  • @cooltrades7469

    @cooltrades7469

    Жыл бұрын

    Significantly in trading = ££££. 30 years , wow. You should be in millions , at least.Or managing tenth of millions.Yes , the 200 is a known thing and actually 300 seems to be more accurate. But there is also let's say market structure, that can offer you opportunities. Trading is a complex thing and people are different so there's no universal solutin .As about algo trading , I think a statistic several years ago showed how ''human'' traders had better results. Also saw a docu about an algo firm with some very bright guys that somehow went bust .

  • @bubbleboy821

    @bubbleboy821

    Жыл бұрын

    That's funny because I'd say buying below the 200 day moving average means that you're buying at a fire sale.

  • @marekan1410

    @marekan1410

    Жыл бұрын

    Traded for couple of decades - 10K transactions/yr; Liquid markets are mostly random/efficient, so you can buy or sell above or below any moving average... It's still a 50/50 bet; You may win, but it's not a viable business model. Best wishes in trading and investing!

  • @dakaodo

    @dakaodo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cooltrades7469 A couple different studies I've seen found that most technical indicators slightly improve performance when using longer period inputs. Market regime changes are what mess up most traders when they try to apply a single tool or toolkit to all situations. Re: algo firms going bust, there are plenty of them in the past two decades b/c most of them create and test a methodology that works at inception, but that market edge is perishable and erodes over time if they cannot sufficiently adapt and update their methodology to follow market conditions over longer timeframes. It's the same tool limitation problem, writ large with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line.

  • @dakaodo

    @dakaodo

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bubbleboy821 Depends on whether the slope and concavity of the MA are positive or negative. If your MA is sloping upward, and especially if concavity is positive (showing upward acceleration), then yes, buying the dip is great. Downward slope and especially negative concavity would mean buying below the MA into an accelerating downtrend -- better to sell. John Maynard Keynes himself said the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. :P (I take issue with that quote though, since the main part of the fault lies with us for irrationally pitting our ego against the market's direction in the first place)

  • @windsurfing47
    @windsurfing47 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best videos out there on financial education! I am going to make it a requirement for my students.

  • @cyberfunk3793

    @cyberfunk3793

    6 ай бұрын

    This video was 20 minutes of self evident stuff that everybody should know already: a) making profit is hard b) brokers and institutions make money from other things like commissions. If someone didn't know all this before watching this video, they should not be trading anyway.

  • @AlessandroBottoni
    @AlessandroBottoni Жыл бұрын

    Great video, kudos! I totally agree with you. If you are trying to use algorithmic trading tools and techniques to get alpha, you are probably wasting your time (and money). These tools and techniques seem to be much more useful for 1) monitoring the market (think TradingView alerts, e.g.) 2) managing risky situations (think stop losses) and 3) automating certain processes (such as re-balancing portfolios).

  • @incremental_failure

    @incremental_failure

    Жыл бұрын

    What's the basis for your opinion?

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@incremental_failureThis video (he says he agrees with the video). 😉

  • @nima8830
    @nima88302 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this valuable video. What's your idea about algorithmic trading in Cryptocurrencies? They actually don't have intrinsic value and some economic terms are not applicable.

  • @RavenRaven-se6lr
    @RavenRaven-se6lr7 ай бұрын

    Good analysis-Bring it back to reality a product! Well explained- know amount of resources on earth 🌎 for profit-Alpha is my new knowledge thanks

  • @RetJim
    @RetJim29 күн бұрын

    Wow very good video, POV I didn't think of. So far from trading, I see that there a strategies that can help get that edge, but the best strategies are the ones that keep you in the trade longer while managing low risk. So for me (and this can change after writing this) that would be Supply and Demand, why? because that is literally what moves markets! Thank you for the video

  • @jmin9313
    @jmin931311 ай бұрын

    Very informative. Really tired of all the fakes. Keep up!

  • @plebmarvin3108
    @plebmarvin3108 Жыл бұрын

    so few cuts in the video! respect ♥

  • @merseyviking
    @merseyviking Жыл бұрын

    I got tangentially interested in algo trading through a random video suggestion a few weeks ago. I watched a bunch of videos and I came to the realisation that the only guarantee is that the house always wins, and this video confirms that. Sure you *can* make money on the markets, but it's not a get rich quick scheme unless you're a) very lucky (and then it seems people try to ride the luck and lose it all), or b) a very talented risk-aware person.

  • @Aussieguy72
    @Aussieguy72 Жыл бұрын

    "Let’s aim to be pessimistic when people online promise that someone/anyone with a novice level of python experience can create an algo trading strategy that consistently makes money. I will endeavour to never give in to this fallacy and aim to point it out to my viewers on this channel. " As someone who wrote their own python trading script I can agree with that, while it doesn't lose money it often misses good trades because conditions were not met, I certainly wouldn't pay for an algo bot even if I didn't know how to code.

  • @user-lg8ws3bw4e
    @user-lg8ws3bw4e6 ай бұрын

    your strategies do work but it would be very nice of you if you make videos on how you study the candles and the market volatility/movement. Love from India.

  • @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1248
    @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1248 Жыл бұрын

    I trade a manual algorithm the NNFX way and that works for me

  • @jakemckinnon9411
    @jakemckinnon9411 Жыл бұрын

    a bloke with his head screwed on! and he's an aussie too! awesome stuff mate

  • @drfranz29
    @drfranz299 ай бұрын

    I have coded several common retail trading strategies and man oh man dont they work in the long run 😄 What works for me is personalised methods which also have a limited working period

  • @preadatordetector
    @preadatordetector9 ай бұрын

    I have tried to make a stock market sim but because YT is flooded with algo trading tutorials (which I don't even want) I can't find the content I want to use.

  • @incremental_failure
    @incremental_failure Жыл бұрын

    You absolutely can find alpha as retail. Especially true for liquidity constrained strategies. Large funds are not going to bother making 200-500k annually from a strategy, it's way too small for them. For single trader retail it's worth it.

  • @jonsmith7667

    @jonsmith7667

    Жыл бұрын

    you are 100% correct I am a small retail trader and I only trade alpha, this guy doesn't understand direct access brokerages as well it seems, I have only watched a few minutes but its enough, changing the channel after this post

  • @jerryc5743

    @jerryc5743

    Жыл бұрын

    So, in other words, if you go into business for yourself and learn the business, to use the analogy from the book this person references, you can metaphorically mine a small portion of gold dust but, for a one person shop, that profit is worth it? (That is a genuine question, not a back-handed rebuttal)

  • @incremental_failure

    @incremental_failure

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jerryc5743 Exactly. Not everyone in the marketplace is in direct competition with everyone else.

  • @jerryc5743

    @jerryc5743

    Жыл бұрын

    @@incremental_failure thanks 😀

  • @Eijgey

    @Eijgey

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you speaking from personal experience?

  • @alonsoe.rodriguez100
    @alonsoe.rodriguez100 Жыл бұрын

    Advances in Financial Machine Learning seems like a great book thanks,.

  • @malviyaprashant
    @malviyaprashant Жыл бұрын

    The video is hard truth I guess for retail traders. But then in your view, do Retail traders have no hope? I have seen successful retail traders making good wealth? how to reconcile it? Thanks

  • @jaychow5220
    @jaychow5220 Жыл бұрын

    Have you got any forums for beginners to ask the trading coding questions?

  • @andreasw665
    @andreasw665 Жыл бұрын

    Well algo trading and alpha discovery are two different things in my opinion. The first can be as simple as, buy at price x and sell at price y. The latter indeed is not as trivial and has high barriers to entry. Good video, really enjoyed it!

  • @piotr780

    @piotr780

    Жыл бұрын

    no...

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    Жыл бұрын

    True, Interactive Brokers will let you as a retail trader use about six different ‘algo’ methods to buy/sell, but they really have nothing to do with alpha, only with different ways to enter/exit the market, e.g. not showing your full order size (‘iceberg’), attempting to buy below VWAP, etc.

  • @cyberfunk3793

    @cyberfunk3793

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ScottHz How would IB limit the kind of algos a trader uses? You are confusing some entry methods IB calls algo and not understanding what the word means in the context of typical algo trading.

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    5 ай бұрын

    @@cyberfunk3793who said anything about 'limit'? By 'let you', I mean IB provides them as part of their trading platform. That's why I put 'algo' in quotes, I know they're not the same ;)

  • @darcebrooks5409
    @darcebrooks54095 ай бұрын

    your work is highly informative. I always do ask myself though - are you speaking as though only quants make money in markets consistently? I would argue alongside math phd quants you have non-quant traders in existence - seems as though you are not acknowledging those

  • @landon.wilkins
    @landon.wilkins11 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the book recommendation. Thanks mate!

  • @bluefish225
    @bluefish2252 жыл бұрын

    Best video I’ve seen on this topic!!!

  • @cevalier
    @cevalier8 ай бұрын

    well, actually I use my own model and input manually. I will not write the code in any platform since I am afraid can be however in many ways be stolen

  • @maxg9680
    @maxg9680 Жыл бұрын

    Title is misleading. The 3 strategies proposed to make money have nothing to do with alpha. But OK to know.

  • @victorlee6129
    @victorlee61292 жыл бұрын

    Got it - don't bother chasing alpha. Is there a way as a retail investor that we can reduce beta with minimal impact to our 0 alpha? Or are there no good, easily accessible beta-reduction strategies either?

  • @markhegedus7952

    @markhegedus7952

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, following the S&P 500 or buying ETFs are the best method at reducing beta. They're simply the easiest and less risky methods, but of course this will reduce your potential income. There is no such a thing as low-risk high reward investment, especially not in the short term. Long term investments are an another good example of reducing average volatility. But of course if you're not careful long term investments can be even riskier. Most big corporation's price will go up eventually... but there are a lot that may never go up, especially if they the corp uses the wrong strategy.

  • @ScottHz

    @ScottHz

    Жыл бұрын

    19:44 he says it’s not impossible to find alpha.

  • @robinspanier7017

    @robinspanier7017

    Жыл бұрын

    as jack boogle phrased it: the only free lunch in the stock market is diversification

  • @Northstar2000

    @Northstar2000

    3 ай бұрын

    Dont be a beta, be a omega chad

  • @user-lc3wl1iq1v
    @user-lc3wl1iq1v Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the thoughtful content!

  • @alexandersorbas1881
    @alexandersorbas18814 ай бұрын

    brother I need your corner desk!!! Where did you get it?

  • @matthewdupree3573
    @matthewdupree3573 Жыл бұрын

    I also think that there are other macro opportunities that present themselves when hedge funds turn a blind eye to value based on societal pressures. Presents an opportunity to individual investors who don’t have the same pressures (ie. Job loss/no promotion) for investing in non-green companies. Energy & tobacco for example.

  • @cavesalamander6308
    @cavesalamander63088 ай бұрын

    I especially like trainers who talk about their crazy earnings and... encourage you to pay for their courses. It looks strange: usually those people who have money are not particularly interested in attracting all sorts of beggars and teaching them something.

  • @vasanthpragash854

    @vasanthpragash854

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't you like the KZread crypto or investments scam bot thread? Oh the markets are really hard and growth but I'm really glad I'm still able to make $xxxx a week. Then some one asks how and they name drop some unicorn guru with an email id or Whatsapp number in a funny format.

  • @__mac
    @__mac7 ай бұрын

    Couldn't have said it better myself, this video will be an excellent resource

  • @tehehe5929
    @tehehe59299 ай бұрын

    Why strategy #1 and #3 are not the same? They are the exact same thing for me: fee for a service.

  • @lewispatten3723
    @lewispatten372311 ай бұрын

    Goodness this is a refreshing island of sanity in the ocean of madness that is financial youtube

  • @HitAndMissLab
    @HitAndMissLab10 ай бұрын

    Yet another guys saying "everybody else is lying, but, come buy my stuff, 'cause I'm the only one who's telling the truth"

  • @askelyk384
    @askelyk3842 жыл бұрын

    If you look at the most successful hedge fund manager, Jim Simon, who has outperformed the market with an annual return of 66,1% before fees for his medallion fund from 1988 - 2018, it clearly shows that it requires the brightest minds in the world of mathematics, computer science and physics. The point is that most retail traders don’t have the necessary skills to analyze the right data and the right amount of data in order to produce strategies that can make alpha. Of course, that’s just how I analyze the situation. But most retail traders should definitely not use basic algo strategies like SMA 50 crossing the SMA 100

  • @brockobama257
    @brockobama2579 ай бұрын

    Is there a way to arbitrage the market? I am very new, but I know with sports betting between two bookkeepers you can create arbitrage bets against each of them. Can the same be done in trading? The context is obviously very different.

  • @b1ueocean

    @b1ueocean

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes but not as a retail trader. You'll need to be a price maker/taker across multiple institutional venues and exchanges, operating under institutional execution terms. Most retail accounts for example won't let you bid or offer inside the prevailing spread. And most retailers won't be setup to buy in Venue A and sell in Venue B. Institutional price aggregators offering Prime Execution Services open up such opportunities to professional market participants.

  • @eieihan2302
    @eieihan2302 Жыл бұрын

    So you saying is that brokers take retail traders data and provide that information to the market makers.

  • @willowkonrad8893
    @willowkonrad889311 ай бұрын

    The best model is to simply control the market prices. That takes out all the guess work, Show them your stop loss so they can wipe out your trade.

  • @Smarttradingchannel
    @Smarttradingchannel11 ай бұрын

    You can’t tell that hedge funds are juste interested by managements fees If they manage people money that because their performances and alpha are positive, that what bring more customers to trust them. So anyway, they have to trade with people money and have a great trading strategies to make return. What you can say, that those companies used others technics rather then juste predicting stock price. Some example are : hedging, statical arbitrages, means reversions, factor based models (using fundamentals).. and all of this drived by risk management So yes even big companies have strategies and trade on market and make money with that

  • @goldensnitch1614
    @goldensnitch1614 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Subbed.

  • @robinspanier7017
    @robinspanier7017 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for posting this.. i am so sick for finding nothing on yt thats not idiotic

  • @kaelsutcliffe2914
    @kaelsutcliffe291411 ай бұрын

    This guy said “People telling you how to make money online are lying”, “let me tell you how to make money online”

  • @wayneflint8077
    @wayneflint8077 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea Unger 4 time world trading champion. Kevin Davey also world trading champion, Bob Booker, Jarrod Goodman are all full algorithmic traders. Any comment on how that lines up with Alpha!

  • @ChrisosIDK

    @ChrisosIDK

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly... this guy doesn't know how far off the mark he is. There is huge alpha to be found via algo trading (for the small scale retail trader). I personally have found it... and it is vast.

  • @albertociampini6473
    @albertociampini6473 Жыл бұрын

    Im sorry but referring to econometrics as 18th century tech just because (some) techniques involve inverting a 'simple' covariance matrix is a bit of a stretch. Most of what people label as machine learning nowadays is actually based on 18th century math, eg. PCA. The author of that book is openly against the use of econometric techniques (against ML) which is only one side of the story... peace.

  • @lamhkak47
    @lamhkak47 Жыл бұрын

    I love how there're many bot-liked comments getting pushed to the top in here

  • @suwasghimire3491
    @suwasghimire349110 ай бұрын

    Another exemplary channel in KZread. Subscribed

  • @inoidontyes3839
    @inoidontyes383910 ай бұрын

    I get what u are saying but also some tools are as they stated and are just a means of you automating a strategy you have or future ideas. It’s not like they are giving you a strategy and saying it will work just because you automate it. It is YOUR strategy so whether it works or not is up to you. Those institutions just have strategies that work for them and they’ve automated it possible using their own in house tech guy and softwares. I won’t say a retail software will work as fast because there are a lot of factor but depending on your strategy just as fast may not be what you need.

  • @pigachejean-eric8537
    @pigachejean-eric85378 ай бұрын

    So, guaranted IS not reachable by retails. Guaranted IS also u tube, as far as WE Can use infos. Tks.

  • @colinmaharaj
    @colinmaharaj Жыл бұрын

    That red book is the intelligent investor, what are the other books on your shelf bro. And I think I've seen a pattern that can make me money, I'm in the process of coding it from scratch. It's taking a while, a lot of these things are new to me, but I've finished with market data collection, now for pattern analysis and decision making

  • @colinmaharaj

    @colinmaharaj

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah the bid ask spread can be an issue, I've learned something thanks.

  • @merakshitrading9216
    @merakshitrading92169 ай бұрын

    Most indicators are trend following and fail in flat markets. They also not work consistently throughout all assets. I am searching for price patterns with a high win rate.

  • @SuperiorBeen

    @SuperiorBeen

    9 ай бұрын

    So you should identify the trend: long/short/flat and use the corresponding bots. For example, for a flat trend you can use a grid bot between resistance and support. For trending bots there are plenty of strategies using moving averages, lucid SAR, DCA etc. Once you identify the trend it's easy to make steady money just don't be scared to use stop losses: The trend is your friend until the end of the trend 😉

  • @denislavstoychev7240
    @denislavstoychev72408 ай бұрын

    Good content, but misguided since none of the 3 strategies you talked about are actual trading strategies, but rather business strategies. So nothing relevant in terms of actual buying and selling of financial assets.

  • @pccrypto
    @pccrypto Жыл бұрын

    It's easier to show how hard finding alpha is by looking at hedge funds and which ones actually make money in the end. They are primarily after alpha.

  • @HermanWillems

    @HermanWillems

    Жыл бұрын

    And they are all Quant based on massive super computers.

  • @pccrypto

    @pccrypto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HermanWillems not all, there are many 'stupid' hedge funds too ;)

  • @vinodagarwal9307
    @vinodagarwal930711 ай бұрын

    One of my collegue who was also interested in joining some platform has asked for guidance for following issue Dear Sir /Madan Good Day In order to improve the efficiency in execution of trades and to avoid the slippage i am considering to work with some Algo trader platform . We have to provide the API from broker for integration into the Algo system . My worry is that since the algo trader will have access to my account for placing the trade , he may sell deep OTM options to me and my capital will be eroded instantly . Please guide me if there is a possibility of happening such instances and what action and precautions i should take . Awaiting your valuable suggestions for improving my learning curve . With best Regards Simran seth

  • @Penfold__
    @Penfold__ Жыл бұрын

    What do you mean that you can't create a strategy that spits out a sharpe ratio of 10 in 3 lines of code? But...what about my moving average crossover idea???

  • @daveb4446
    @daveb4446 Жыл бұрын

    I had some time and tested out several HUNDRED financial theories, and not one of them worked as advertised, which should be expected. Why would anyone release an effective algorithm? Ironically my only working bot was the first project I worked on when I knew nothing. I saw a potential pattern while watching some chargers, and it turned out to be surprisingly effective.

  • @algotradrr

    @algotradrr

    Жыл бұрын

    So basically your bot is an algo that works.

  • @chillbackground4935

    @chillbackground4935

    Жыл бұрын

    can you share with us your pattern

  • @dawei6697

    @dawei6697

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chillbackground4935😂😂 I’m sure everyone has the same thought as you… and I’m sure he won’t. Reason one, he spent all the time and money to test the algos, he deserves to be rich. Reason two, once it’s public it won’t work any more. But he already gave you plenty of information, right? From his brief description, you can reduce your search for a working algo by almost a HUNDRED fold. All we need to do is to figure out his hidden message and do one-tenth of his work.

  • @C-ly-de

    @C-ly-de

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey I won't obviously ask you for the algorithm but I'm looking to use python for trading and wanted to know how much time and/or what study did you do to get where you are. Have a great day

  • @daveb4446

    @daveb4446

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dawei6697 what I will say is that you have to check out the failures to see why they fail. And always always always use a benchmark. It’s near impossible to develop a working boy without a benchmark.

  • @BWV478
    @BWV4788 ай бұрын

    I don't understand how can you completely ignore the buy-side.

  • @James-og6cx
    @James-og6cx Жыл бұрын

    He literally talks about how KZread videos about trading strategies are bullshit and then in the next breath offers trading strategies, without even missing a beat! 😂

  • @patite3103
    @patite31032 жыл бұрын

    You didn't really talk about algorithmic trading but rather on the business modell of the two different groups (directional vs non-directional). Thanks

  • @MADgamer9212

    @MADgamer9212

    2 жыл бұрын

    He has to seek the alpha of the KZread algorithm somehow haha.

  • @algotradrr

    @algotradrr

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree. Very misleading title. One doesn't have to know python. There is software out there that allows you to create your own algo and test it, which is far better than manual trading.

  • @troy_neilson
    @troy_neilson8 ай бұрын

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @pfdoran
    @pfdoran Жыл бұрын

    If you find a high beta stock (3>) and buy in a bull market or sell in a bear market (according to federal spending), surely you will find a significant annualised alpha since you are essentially playing 3x whatever the according market is.

  • @resa574

    @resa574

    7 ай бұрын

    - “Just time the market bro”

  • @manliolezzi631
    @manliolezzi63110 ай бұрын

    GG fam, great content

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