If you play high honor, Arthur cannot be "evil." The working class families he saved, the debts he absolved, the slaves he freed, the Native Americans he helped, etc. He did too much good to be evil.

@KingKuntaNAtor

10 ай бұрын

He literally murdered dozens of people

@SpaceHelix

10 ай бұрын

meanwhile that one mission he kills hundreds of endless waves of lawmen in saint denis

@dalebooty6118

10 ай бұрын

the poor slaves and indians :( he is so progressive for being in the 1800s!

@alexanotsiri3375

10 ай бұрын

so he's evil then? pretty narrow minded@@SpaceHelix

@gghs9162

10 ай бұрын

​​@@SpaceHelixBy that logic Marston must also be evil. The point is he led an evil life, he did not die an evil man and he's precisely the reason Marston had a chance to get out of that life (at least for a while).

The only correct answer for Arthur is it depends how you play. If you go on murderous rampages and pick all the low honour options he’ll come across as pretty evil. If you pick all the high honour options and then he’s definitely one of the characters with more morals.

@user-bg1jx9mt5m

6 ай бұрын

Finally. someone say it

@Gabriel-ns2cn

6 ай бұрын

High honour Arthur is anti-hero

I think Agent Ross should be ranked into Devil. He was corrupt and he used John like a puppet. Even after John did what he was told to, Ross killed him like a dog. He definitely abused his power as an Pinkerton agent.

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

John was a simp so it's hard to me to feel so much sorry for him.

@anthonyfernandez82

10 ай бұрын

@@starlaixystar there's no way you are real

@ParrotPentester

10 ай бұрын

@@starlaixystar simp? mate he was married and had a child, I think anyone would kill to have their family back if it was taken away from them

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

@@ParrotPentester Not me. I would never marry someone like Abigail.

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

@@ParrotPentester No. Abigail is a toxic idealist who expects everyone to do things for her when she never do anything. John did so many things to her and she always treated him bad and I never want a woman who would slap me and beat me like Abigail slapped John. Women like Abigail are toxic and disgusting and you are a fool if you don't understand that. But what esle I can expect from Read Dead community? You are far from smart people.

I love John Marston voice.. you can immediately tell that voice in a crowd

@Obiwont

7 ай бұрын

fr fr

This is pretty accurate one. It's wild that a lot of Red Dead Redemption fans consider Arthur as a good person, sure we can choose to play as high honor and Arthur was trying to be a better person, avoid unnecessary killing and trying to help people in need in the latter half of RDR2's storyline but he was also killed a thousands and did a lot of atrocities with his gang. His villainous qualities still much weigh his heroic qualities.

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

W

@chefolio

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. Most players consider Arthur to be a good person but it was only after the Blackwater Incident and the gang's downfall did he consider reflecting and making better of himself. It still doesn't excuse him from being a ruthless outlaw in the past and when he was alive.

@anthonyfernandez82

10 ай бұрын

Why not John then, if we're going to judge them based off their past?

@alexanotsiri3375

10 ай бұрын

his villainous qualities do not out weigh his heroic qualities in the slightest lol and underplay a lot of historical context and character development which is a lot wilder than considering Arthur as a good person who he very much was at the time of his death

@AntiDegenerate1971

10 ай бұрын

@@alexanotsiri3375 arthur was a bad guy for most of his life, he robbed and killed people for 20 years, becoming a good guy for a few months does not change what he did

John only "got out" because of Arthur. That makes Arthur not fully Evil and a chance that John could have been had Arthur not have saved him.

@nightmarepegasus4141

9 ай бұрын

Not really because of arthur And arthur realized he was wrong all along mostly thanks to john who wanted to leave this life since a long time Without arthur, john would have get out, without john, arthur wouldn't have got redemption

@Reddeadrobin1

9 ай бұрын

@nightmarepegasus4141 John left the first time because he didn't want to be a father to Jack. It had nothing to do with getting out of the life. John didn't necessarily want out of the life in the end, he wanted out of what Dutch had gotten the so far into. It wasn't until Arthur talked to him and convinced him to leave and showed him a better way did John finally try. Oh and what Abigail did too later in the game.

@nightmarepegasus4141

9 ай бұрын

​@@Reddeadrobin1john shown signs that be wanted to stop robbing and killing, he leave the gang the first time for more than one reason and survived on his own for that 1 year and a few. During rdr2, he already was thinking of getting out but didn't till the end for loyalty, as arthur, but john already planned to leave at one point before arthur telling him "when the time comes, you gotta go and don't look back" thing.

@Smellmyballz

Ай бұрын

There's 2 decisions

Arthur belongs in the anti-hero category. Never relished in the bad stuff he had to do and usually tried to do the right thing.

@jakolby6511

7 ай бұрын

He has killed hundreds of people. So has John.

@Relationship_Jesuschrist

4 ай бұрын

Frrs like everybody forgets it’s a western game, like don’t glorify the things he’s done, I do look at peoples traits and all plus people had to high key to survive on their own even children where alone.

The mystery hat man didn’t ask John to do anything evil. He didn’t try to entice John to engage in “sinful” behavior. If anything he seemed judgmental of John’s past. His first encounter he tells John about a man who is about to cheat on his wife and he wants John to pay him a visit. It’s up to the player what John does. The second encounter he tells John about the nun trying to feed the poor. Again, it’s up to John to give money or steal it. I never understood why people think he represents the devil. He’s testing John, not swaying him one way or another.

@TickleEyes

8 ай бұрын

He and brother Dorkins got some sort of connection. They speak in a very similar way and both lead the player to meeting sister Calderon.

@thegreeter7027

7 ай бұрын

It’s cuz the Strange Man represents Caine, a biblical figure that curse those that try to kill him

@user-bg1jx9mt5m

6 ай бұрын

I agree

@user-bg1jx9mt5m

6 ай бұрын

​@@thegreeter7027We don't even know who he is. Maybe he was an ordinary man, but he died in the Blackwater massacre, or maybe he was an angel figure or anything else.

@thegreeter7027

6 ай бұрын

@@user-bg1jx9mt5m that’s impossible since if we read Arthur’s journal in RDR2, he writes about seeing a man similar to Trelawny during the Blackwater Massacre

Let's for a second imagine that Arthur Morgan and his gang was real in 1899. You're just a kid with your mother and your father, who is a lawman in Saint Denis. You hear shirt a robbery gone wrong and your father was killed. You grieve for a long time as your father tried to do good and got killed because of it. You later read on the newspaper that some people involved in the robbery are dead. How would you feel about that? Probably good, he got what he deserved. You later hear about his good actions jn the last weeks of his life. But would that excuse him for killing your father and hundreds more?

What bad stuff did Bonnie do? I can't remember something bad that she did

@niftyskates85

10 ай бұрын

Im kinda getting the feel this was a script written by ai

@saskuethedemon98

10 ай бұрын

I guess when she said "I should go to Pike's Basin to deal with those rustlers myself" is the only thing I can vaguely remember. But that's like an anger filled intrusive thought. She didn't even remotely entertain the idea further

@Based_Gigachad_001

10 ай бұрын

​@@niftyskates85 It definitely was. John is anti hero but Arthur is evil?

@musiqueaccount2344

9 ай бұрын

literally nothing, if anything the opposite

@CodPatrol

9 ай бұрын

@@saskuethedemon98 rustlers ain’t worth having sympathy for bro

I'd put arthur morgan as sometimes evil because good thing about him is that he's loyal to everyone in the gang including dutch, plus he saved John to start a new life and opening dutchs eyes to realize Micah always been a snake before he joined. The only thing somewhat evil about arthur is that he'd only help other people that'll pay him in return. He's also capable of beating people to collect money or any information off of them.. plus later after thomas died from TB, arthur still collects the money his wife made after selling the house to pay back the debt for Strauss.

Sean is definitely not Evil

I personally wouldn’t put Arthur in the evil category, rather anti-hero. He was without question an evil man before, but (in the high-honour story) he ends up trying to make amends as best he can, and ultimately does very noble things for people, unlike characters such as Strauss and Ross. That’s just my opinion.

@juanma0205

6 ай бұрын

Strauss did something noble at least, he died being tortured by the Pinkertons being loyal to the gang

Great video! Subbed. I feel like “bad” woulda been more accurate than evil tho. being a a bad man due to circumstance and environment isn’t the same as being maliciously evil

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

Great point.

@filmsbyhen

10 ай бұрын

@@avenaut Like I feel like evil you have to have malice in your heart and intentions…Arthur, hell even Dutch to an extent, genuinely thought in most instances these actions were out of necessity due to their background or circumstances. Whereas Micah got enjoyment from the suffering and exploiting of other humans feeling no remorse. I think Dutch isnt as evil as someone like ross or Cornwall for example

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

@@filmsbyhen 1 - I watch your videos mate. You doing a great job. 2 - yeah I agree with your points And i already have a video planned around it. 3 - yup Bad would have been more suitable. Gonna use this info for future videos.

@filmsbyhen

10 ай бұрын

@@avenaut thanks! At the end of the day it’s all just semantics and the video was fantastic

Great video thank you!

That mysterious man with Hat is death himself (There is a theory like that)

@willslick6837

10 ай бұрын

death just does his job

arthur is a pretty difficult one to decide especially since you never see him as a non-player character, unlike john for the first 6 chapters of red dead 2, so it just means arthur is really whoever you make him to be, you can kill almost nobody in your playthrough or kill literally everything in your path and make the most evil decisions, it's totally up to the player and i'd just put him in the middle really, he's undoubtedly done awful things but also pretty good and honorable things especially near his end, and though they may not make up for his past i'd still say he's not entirely evil for the sake of being evil. i'd say high honor arthur is anti hero, neutral honor is evil, and low honor is devil tbh

@jones4452

7 ай бұрын

Yea bro agreed

@MutantMasterRace

7 ай бұрын

100%

Good video bro

You forgot Kieran Duffy

Can you do a tier list on how good all the gta protag are good at fighting/combat?

strange man is completely neutral, if not good. he's essentially determining where john's soul will go edit: okay that was only the tip of the iceberg this list is nonsense. bonnie macfarlane in "sometimes evil" above theives and killers? irish, with less than 0 redeeming qualities, in the same tier? also what did javier do? huh?

High honor Arthur is the perfect anti hero

I wouldn’t call Arthur evil, he’s honestly pretty nice. Also, cool fact: high honor Arthur is canon.

@PolishGod1234

10 ай бұрын

He killed and robbed people for 20 years

@rammer3232

9 ай бұрын

He's done a lot of bad stuff prior to the game (allegedly) because he is one of the oldest members and that means he probably committed countless crimes. If you need a tuberculosis to show you how fucked up you are, then you're not good at all.

@jenedonnepasmonblaseanimpo2781

8 ай бұрын

"You speak like if killing is something I care about"

@the1stassassin422

6 ай бұрын

​@@jenedonnepasmonblaseanimpo2781 Ever heard of putting on a front for intimidation? That's what he was clearly doing. Jesus...

@zombiekiller4313

5 ай бұрын

"Doesn't barbarism ever tire you?" "It kept me amused for years."

6:43 Btw do someone know how to get this mission with sadie?

@jackwest9712

10 ай бұрын

It's online up in the mountains

I played high honour Arthur and never killed anyone unless i had to. At the end, Arthur tried to right his wrongs and help John where he could. So for me, Arthur would be in a new category: "Used to be Evil".

@user-bg1jx9mt5m

6 ай бұрын

100%

6:43 what part of the game is this?

Great video. But there are some characters you forgot, Jack, Kieran, Nigel WD, Mr. Mcfarlane and Vicente De Santa.

Which's the IA used for this video?

Arthur should be in the anti hero and you should add red Harlow

Is anti hero considered worse than sometimes evil? Anti hero sounds better because it doesn’t out right call you evil

@avenaut

9 ай бұрын

Anti hero is perfect balance

i think javier does deserve evil but i thought it would be important to mention that when they were aiming their guns at arthur and john in the final mission javier was pointing his gun up instead of aiming at them

@saltgamer7895

10 ай бұрын

That has nothing to do with Javier's morality though.

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

So what?

@user-hx6gs9rq7u

10 ай бұрын

This is the most common misconception in all of rdr. Javier does aim right at Arthur just before the pinkertons start shooting

@SpaceHelix

10 ай бұрын

​@@user-hx6gs9rq7u its not a misconception. gabriel sloyer explains he didnt want javier to aim at john or arthur and had to fight to keep that in the cutscene

@user-hx6gs9rq7u

10 ай бұрын

@@SpaceHelix It is. Right when the pinkertons shout to put their guns down when the screen cuts back to Dutch’s side you can see Javier aiming right at Arthur for a split second before the shooting starts

Authur depends on how player potray the character. He can be good person, but he also can be "Bruh WTF" lvl

sometimes evil for tilly makes more sense especially with the fact that she did murder before out of self defense or not susan made it clear that tilly has a different side to her meaning a evil side or less good side so only being 100% good wouldn't make sense for tilly abigail and mary beth should be in sometimes evil category too abigail a former prostitute, murderer and thief doesn't fit the bill for 100% good and mary beth wronged people her whole life seemingly robbing and being a thief and not giving a dang who she hurts and or wrongs outside of the gang even during rdr2 almost similar to micah or any other of dutche's gang even, without the murderer part mary beth can't possibly be 100% certain to be in the good category 100% good for mary beth doesn't make sense being so arthur deserves anti hero category he did a lot of good deeds and he helped a lot of people especially john, jack and abigail and sadie even arthur isn't 100% evil chapter 6 definitely proves that arthur isn't 100% evil ross derseves devil category not just evil he abit beyond just evil especially for what he did to john and his family even after john payed his debts in full and wasn't really worth the trouble to capture or kill anymore especially after the events of rdr2 he wasn't worth hunting down like an animal anymore like ross did to him then the fact ross used john to kill the other former family members of his too because obviously dutche's gang they considered each other family at one point john said it himself even in rdr1 anti hero or sometimes evil makes more sense for strauss just simply because he never ratted out anyone in dutche's gang even after he got thrown out of it in chapter 6 of rdr2's events which means he wasn't 100% evil if he had a heart for people if he was like micah 100% then strauss would of have bestrayed the gang especially after being kicked out of the gang but even after being kicked out of the gang strauss stayed loyal to the gang and he had a heart for them still nevertheless so strauss can't possibly be 100% evil being so and it isn't like any of the others didn't do evil deeds after all they all did except for maybe uncle and person far as the one's that where in dutche's gang that is hoasea derserve anti hero category more than sometimes evil especially with how hoasea went against dutch's plans and actually tried to be a actual good guy especially for the gang unlike dutch even well if only go by the rdr2 events hoasea derseves to be in the good category even susan doing good deeds for the gang possibly more tempered than evil but her actions where her and arthur saved tilly was pretty brutal and or evil though so i'd say susan in between anti hero and evil sometimes maybe not either one 100% half and half of both in a way

Bill Willimason ain't such devil.

@backlandjbreaker24

4 ай бұрын

You really didn’t play rdr1, Bill and Dutch from rdr1 are more bad than Micah

I actually had an argument online the other day about Strauss. My take is he's a predator that, as you said, will ruin lives without a second thought. Part of this is his purposeful way of not being involved. HE doesn't have to get his hands dirty. He's the wallet. So in his mind, if Arthur has to "beat someone to death for a couple bucks," Strauss never dealt with it, so it doesn't bother him. All STRAUSS knows is he got paid. The other person was saying basically that Strauss was a good guy who took care of the gang and needed to do what needed to be done. I was like "ARTHUR THREW HIS ASS OUT BECAUSE HE'S SO UNBEARABLE!!!!"

4:44 Hey bro, if you can then can you say what is that outfit made out of? It looks damn good. Not problem if you cant.

@daseafrate2025

10 ай бұрын

I think its a mod

@backlandjbreaker24

10 ай бұрын

Its not his clip

@backlandjbreaker24

10 ай бұрын

Watch Nestan funniest scene with uncle

Why does Uncle have a Sickle and Hammer on his face?

Hold on, what’s this about Javier killing John’s ranch hands at Beecher’s Hope??

@TickleEyes

8 ай бұрын

What’s this about Javier shooting John in the mountains????

@TickleEyes

8 ай бұрын

Bonnie Macfarlane sometimes evil????? Huh????????

@TickleEyes

8 ай бұрын

The mysterious hat man in the devil category????? The mystery hat man is the RDR equivalent of Brother Dorkins i felt. And both introduce the protagonist to Calderon. He isn’t evil, he’s ambiguous.

Arthur Morgan for me fits for me in between the Evil and some what evil categories depending on how you play his character in RDR and RDR2

Where does come the scene with Sadie Adler at 6:55? I'm not sure to remember it...

@Lone_Coyote

6 ай бұрын

Red Dead Online only. Set in 1898.

I would’ve put Arthur in the Antihero category, because yes he has done terrible things, but it could be argued that he mainly did it for his (dare I say) found family’s benefit and he’s a character who does have the option for redemption, depending on how you play him. Like he’s not completely evil but he’s also not a saint. So he could go either way.

4:32 why does uncle have a soviet hammer and sickle symbol tattooed on his forehead

I'd rather put Arthur in sometimes Evil, or Anti hero, because that's who he is, he Can sometimes be evil, but ge does all his actions for a good cause, if you put Sadie in Anti hero, Arhur deserves to be in at least that tier

When did Javier attack Beecher's Hope?

Very nice video i agree with 97%

Uh I like most of it but I feel like Arthur is either sometimes evil or anti hero and how are you gonna put John in anti but Arthur in evil when but I would say Arthur would probably be more horrible than dishonorable because I feel like the true ending is where you help John and remember his story is about redemption and finding peace in the end and have meaning which makes his story even safer because John dies and Abigail dies not very long after and Jack becomes exactly what they wouldn’t have wanted him to be theme

4:34 Did anybody else notice the hammer and sickle on Uncle's forehead?

@avenaut

9 ай бұрын

😗

I know Strauss is evil. But by far he’s the most legal income for the contribution to the gang. Just look how loaning still exist today.

U put Lenny over Hosea??

Where would you put Milton on this?

@javiermescuaguerrero

6 ай бұрын

I will put in Good. He was just a law man doing his job, and he tried to save the rest of the memberst just by capturing Dutch

The "cannon" ending is high honour so Arthur is more like an Anti Hero

i would have ranked arthur as an anti hero sure he's an outlaw and a killer but he helped john out and he does show humane feelings towards john his family and the women of the gang

Javier didn't kill or take any part in what happened to John's ranch hands. Nor did he try to kill John in the mountains.

vvhy does bro pronounce dutch van der linde and dutch van der lin-deh

It's Van Der Linde not Linda

High honor Arthur is NOT evil, he’s definitely an anti-hero who wants nothing but to be good. He’s depressed and genuinely hates what he’s become and what Dutch did. It’s why he started giving away all his money and belongings by the end of the game. If he REALLY wanted to he could’ve left to California after getting diagnosis or taken it easy. Arthur Morgan isn’t a good guy, but he’s certainly not evil depending on how you play him.

I more or less agree with this list but personally I would put Arthur in the Antihero tier lol otherwise seems fine to me lol.

Micah being my absolute most hated character in the games. Hes also one of my favorites. R* did amazing with him

I think Lenny goes in to the sometimes evil category

@craigsovilla6578

6 ай бұрын

Lenny was misguided and pressured into what he provided for the gang by his peers. He was a good person.

My man you forgot about cpt Vincent De Santa l, Abraham Reyes and coronal Allende ik sorry if I've butchered that also Marshall Johnson and there are a few others.

It is accurate except for Aurther because you can choose if he is evil or good

The strange man shouldnt be classified as the devil. He should just not be on the list. Hes a force of nature

I think arthur would be an anti hero because he does good things but he does bad things too and by the end he redeemed himself

Calling Abigail good must be a joke.

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

Why you think so? Curious

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

@@avenaut Because she is idealist. She lives in her own black and white world. She doesn't realize in what kind of world she lives. She abuses John. Uses John because without him she would never survive. She is annoying. She has awful personality and she cares mostly about herself and Jack. Definitely not a good person. She is toxic.

@migo.offa30

10 ай бұрын

what bad has she done?

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

@@migo.offa30 People who ask this question are sick in the head. She demands things from people but she never gives anything from herself. She is always mean. Always treats John bad. Always has a problem. She is useless. Toxic idealist who has her own world and everyone has to live like she wants. I hate people like her. I also hate her design and I prefer Micah than her.

@coltonwilkie241

8 ай бұрын

​@@migo.offa30 Literally nothing. Never did a single bad thing. This NPC just thinks she's been passed around the gang because the antagonists from the gang said so.

"You save my life, You're a good man." - Jimmy brooks

on a high honor run arthur goes to good or sometimes evil or antihero, low honor run and he is the devil himself. and if you base it solely on story he is an antihero

Good chart and video but I think a Saint tier should be made for people like Abigail and Pearson. While people like Tilly Jackson and Charles Smith who I agree are good, they don't belong on the same tier as Abigail and Pearson.

tf did the strange man do to you😭

high honor arthur is the true meaning of redemption yes he has that past but in the end he was seeking for redemption he was trying to fix what he had done and he became antihero closer to good person but I guese it depending to how you play the game

arthur depends. if you play with high honor, i definitely cant see him as an evil man. He is good, he cares with the family, Mary, John, Jack. Even with his flaws, i think he is a anti hero, almost evil sometimes

You could just put Arthur Morgan in anti hero category, even though he was trying to the right thing and telling John morston leave the life stay with your family and never look back

He included Arthur to get more comments on the video, In reality Arthur was an Anti Hero, unless you play as low honoured

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

I could have placed Arthur in devil category to get even more views.

what about Jack

Did I just see uncle with a Soviet Union mark on his forehead 4:39

Add a tier called redemption

The person Micah killed in the house in strawberry. Was that a family with a kid? I always assumed so which made me dislike his character before the betrayal

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

You should see Ramsay Snow and Lud Whiteihill. Micah is an angel compared to these two.

@GrimReaper.123

10 ай бұрын

@@starlaixystar saw them lmao

@starlaixystar

10 ай бұрын

@@GrimReaper.123 And you actually believe that Micah is that bad? Oh men.

@GrimReaper.123

10 ай бұрын

@@starlaixystar Bro the whole gang was bad 😭 Wym “oh men” LMAO

@CodPatrol

9 ай бұрын

@@starlaixystar why do you like Micah so much? How is he better than Abigail

“Van Der Linda gang”

Charles is definitely not in the good category, don’t you remember the time he brutally killed a man without question impulsively simply because he killed a bison? Also I don’t think Sean should be evil, sure he’s not perfect but I’d say evil sometimes suits him more

Can you do this with the boys? 😊

@avenaut

10 ай бұрын

👀

Abigail is the purest of evil bro, she got mad at bro John for defending the farm lol 💀💀

wait uncle is a Soviet I literally saw the Soviet Union hammer and sickle on his head

Arthur was a good person, it was just that he was raised in manipulating by Dutch that made him do crimes and sins. Chapter 6 really does show however how Arthur was always a good man underneath

@PolishGod1234

10 ай бұрын

His bad actions outweight his good ones. Arthur is not a good person

@lben1962

9 ай бұрын

Arthur is a murderer. He's not a good person.

@MrChillin8

9 ай бұрын

@@PolishGod1234 maybe that's just your Arthur lmao

@PolishGod1234

9 ай бұрын

@@MrChillin8 nah, i'm talking about missions. Arthur is a thief who murdered hundreds of lawmen in the story.

@jenedonnepasmonblaseanimpo2781

8 ай бұрын

​@@MrChillin8 "You speak like if killing is something I care about"

Arthur ain’t the kind to commit any crime if he didn’t unfortunately end up in the Wild West. The like of Dutch and Micah chose and enjoyed that life while Arhur and John didn’t

Edgar ross deserves to be in devil category. because he literally destroyed john's happy life, when he was starting to live a good life

No one from the Van der Linde gang are "good". I really don't understand how you can say that Swanson is more evil than Mary-Beth, Abigail, Charles, etc. Okay they don't look bad. But they all participate in robberies, participating in killing law enforcers or innocents. Do you remember the mission with Arthur, Sean and Mary-Beth ? She played the girl to stop a carriage, while Arthur and Sean killed everyone. At the end she was happy for the money.... Does it looks like a good person ? 😂

Irish should have his own tier, like drunken troublemaker. Wouldn’t say he’s bad he just leads a no cares lifestyle

@avenaut

9 ай бұрын

He can be annoying sometimes but helpful too

You didnt put the strange man in here??

@Lone_Coyote

6 ай бұрын

Watch the video.

No one says anything about the little thing on uncle's head

I think “Sometimes Evil” is a bit of a stretch. Like Susan being mean to the other girls doesn’t come close to the definition of evil, nor does Molly showing insecurity. I think “Not Good” is a better term

When you say Javier is evil that's where I draw the line

@walterfritzzz

6 ай бұрын

He is lol,what do you expect? Antihero??

Honestly Arthur should go to the Anti-Hero or Sometimes Evil.He was Evil and possibly Devil in the first 5 chapters but he became a changed man.He absolved debts and helped the Native Americans without any sort of repayment.He didn’t care about money but more about helping people.Yes,he killed lawmen,but he does it to save the people he loved and not with any malicious intent.Mostly self-defence too.His arc is about forgiveness and redemption.In the end he realised the bad deeds he had done and he shall be forgiven after all the good acts he has done in the last chapter.Arthur is not a good man,but he is not an evil one.Also imo half this list is wrong like Bonnie being Sometimes Evil(should be Good)Lenny being Anti-Hero(should be Sometimes Evil),Reverend Swanson(should be Good after recovering from alcohol addiction and becoming a preacher(one of the most respectable and honorable jobs))John being Anti-Hero(should be lower after Epilogue)and The Strange Man being Devil(should be Good)

I prefer to take dutch to the evil tier you know he has the sense of regretion and royalty you know he was an ambitious man so he gone so far and he woke up after actions he done and said to him self: what have you done dutch? What happened to those bright dreams with your gang memebers and good life for all? And after that we all know he completely became broken

Bruh what did Strange Man do to You?

I am making category for mica RAT

The tier should have been devil, evil, bad, broken, good.

I see Arthur is sometimes evil

8:53 ahh yes if you don't know anything about someone he must be the devil

So this tier list is pretty inaccurate imo. It`s pretty weird that you only bring up character`s "rough childhoods" when it is convenient. Arthur was literally raised by bandits how is he supposed to become a goody two shoes angel like Mary Beth? High honor Arthur is 100% an anti hero and by that I mean he is THE definition of an anti hero. Low honor Arthur yeah evil. Also how exactly is Bonnie sometimes evil? The only things she did was save John`s life and protect her family`s farm. Very stupid placement imo. And then I wonder why exactly did you put the strange man (A dude who has no background or moral actions) in the most evil section possible? What the hell did he do wrong? Only thing he did was talk to John and guess what John just randomly decided to shoot him.

Okay i got many gripes with this list Arthur: I dunno where you get off marking Arthur as evil but John anti-hero. When they were A. In the Van Der Linde Gang around the same amount of time and have done similar atrocious things. It makes no sense other than being contrian to be contrian Strange Man: "I don't understand him therefore devil" dude, what? Sometimes evil at best. Javier: where the actual fuck did you get this information? 7:30 it sounds like fan fiction shit. Based on the content that's in THE ACTUAL GAMES. Somewhat evil. He goes from blindly loyal to just a sleezeball trying to get out of getting captured by John. He's only in ONE FUCKING MISSION in Redemption 1. He's tangently related to the Mexican Army in Redemption 1 at best. Side note: you do know the E in Van Der Linde is slient right? It's Van Der LEND not Van Der Lin-Day.

I agree with your ranking but For me bill in Evil and Bonnie in good (Bill is an idiot And compare to Dutch or rat Isn't he exactly the same Level for me ( bonnie its likeable and Really Helpful )

@musiqueaccount2344

9 ай бұрын

if you played red dead 1 you'd know some of the stuff he and his gang got up to

@Red-dead-boy

9 ай бұрын

@@musiqueaccount2344wich stuff? ^^ i played through it. Yes it has as owe Gang wehre strong And danger but sill

@musiqueaccount2344

9 ай бұрын

@@Red-dead-boy his gang were torturing and killing innocent folk for no real reason

@CodPatrol

9 ай бұрын

@@musiqueaccount2344 you could argue he was mentally out of it at that point, wasn’t in his right mind