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@deathdeathrevolution3499

4 ай бұрын

Scent bird more like smell avian

@death-istic9586

4 ай бұрын

Hi.

@PridelessChickz

4 ай бұрын

God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heaven❤

Minecraft youtubers either harass kids or get harassed BY kids it seems

@tvirus9369

4 ай бұрын

18 years old shes an adult

@timidpan

4 ай бұрын

Facts

@raveboymtc2448

4 ай бұрын

@@tvirus9369 In the US you have to be 21 yrs old to drink alcohol legally

@KaneDeath4

4 ай бұрын

@@raveboymtc2448so she broke the law lol

@Padlock_Steve

4 ай бұрын

"the child predators have become the child prey" - sun tzu

xqc having a sane take gave me genuine whiplash

@CrystallineLore

4 ай бұрын

That just highlights how insane the situation is. There is genuinely something wrong with that dude. He's like the mad hatter, only seems sane when everything else is chaotic.

@kada0420

4 ай бұрын

It hurts my brain hearing him being reasonable for once

@KenshiImmortalWolf

4 ай бұрын

when XQC and Asmond, the mad hatter and the One true King are on teh same page, you have fuuuucked up

@eprimchad2576

3 ай бұрын

@@KenshiImmortalWolf asmon is the genuinely dumbest youtuber or whatever on any platform, dude is -40 iq due to being completely malnourished, i bet his brain weighs atleast 20gs less than it should from starving himself of nutrients for 30 years

the opinions of twitter mean nothing and should actively be ignored.

@chimoshi3393

4 ай бұрын

The truth finally comes out

@Mrmanatee47

4 ай бұрын

Any social media comments

@facetedguitar6634

4 ай бұрын

That is the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

@SleepyMook

4 ай бұрын

That is the smartest thing i’ve ever heard. That site is a hellhole full of misinformation.

@loadfile5292

4 ай бұрын

@@facetedguitar6634 The duality...

12:39 Jesus what a braindead take. "Smiing is not consent, silence is not consent" - perfect example of someone chronically online. In real world people don't ask for the consent every time they are making move on someone. If you are flirting with someone and that person smiles and says nothing when you do something, and then even after that says nothing about being uncomfortable then I guess its good enough. Calling someone out after weeks/months with no evidence is idiotic. Also, apologizing for "power imbalance" is even dumber. What the hell is this? Dragon Ball? Can people stop pretending like influencers are some kind of super powerful mages who force people to do their bidding because otherwise they will get fireball in the face?

@schrodingeroberscharfuhrer7115

4 ай бұрын

wow i didn't even relize what that fucking said until now

@Jeff_Biden

4 ай бұрын

your dragon ball comparison was genuinely hilarious

@emmaesta9444

3 ай бұрын

To be fair, silence isnt consent. If someone is completely silent while youre trying to make a move on them, theyre clearly not in the mood or dont want to

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378

3 ай бұрын

Damn these people took to much internet for dopamine.

They were both drunk, and people spotted inconsistencies and ambiguity with Caiti’s story. First it was under the shirt, then the waist, then full on breasts? Which is it? Why was this not brought up in the first place? The Twitter mob is such a mess, meanwhile KZread comments showed support and understanding for George.

@ollirune

4 ай бұрын

The "it's not inconsistensies, it's just new information coming out" defense is so dumb though. Touching her waist and fondling her breasts are wildly different things, and I refuse to believe she didn't think that was an important distinction in her initial recounting of the situation. It definitely feels like she's now exaggerating what happened because she's received a lot of pushback on whether or not it could be considered sexual assault.

@DyceFreak

4 ай бұрын

If you don't want to get pee'd on, you move out of the way.

@empty4888

4 ай бұрын

​@@ollirune true bro. It's legit heartbreaking seeing KZreadrs that I used to love doing such heinous things.

@thayet

4 ай бұрын

waist/breasts/ribcage aren't far apart, it's no stretch he could have touched both

@Lazrael32

4 ай бұрын

the no tears while recounting it but "crying" didn't help. nor did her being able to retell it without even breaking up a little as the story had to be reworded. it's hard not to believe she wanted to boost her career and this was the way she decided to get attention.

Imagine going out underage drinking and acting like a 21yo, getting treated like a 21yo, then pulling the ''oh but but I'm only 18'' card?

@hamsterwolf

4 ай бұрын

yeah at the age of 18 you get tried as an adult. you can go off to war and take the life of another human being but somehow she can't say no to a beer?

@bearthemexican6385

4 ай бұрын

@@hamsterwolfprobably still doesn’t mean she should’ve drank, honestly I’m still frustrated and more so at her “friends” with all the underage drinking which is insane

@hamsterwolf

4 ай бұрын

@@bearthemexican6385 I agree with you on this. When I was 18 I had plenty of access to alcohol but I didn't drink until I was 21. If I was capable of doing it she could too. No one poured the alcohol down her throat she chose to do that herself.

@CrystallineLore

4 ай бұрын

Freshly 18 remember, she was basically really just 8 it's much worse.

@cjlister8508

4 ай бұрын

"only 18" 😂

His response was actually really great! He didn't villainize her but explained his points well

@FriendlyArin

4 ай бұрын

Both sides of this sucks. He did assault her, just because it "wasn't that bad" doesn't mean she wasn't made uncomfortable by his actions. He did a bad thing and she has the right to hate him, but I also think that he should be ran off the internet for this. He made a bad choice while drunk and he clearly regrets it, I think it should be left there. People say they hate cancel culture and then try to ruin the lives of other creators for simply believing a victim, it's gross.

@leoultimaupgraded9914

4 ай бұрын

@@FriendlyArinsee, I agree with you both parties are at fault what happened that night, since both were drunk and all… but the way Caiti reacted was very bad she could’ve resolved this with George in private, and kept any anger she had toward him in her friend group (that already hates Dream and George anyways) Her saying all of this, trying to destroy George’s platform, is just plain gross. Atleast, I think so

@eon001

3 ай бұрын

​@@FriendlyArinif tickling is assault, then so is a handshake, or pat on shoulder. You can be uncomfortable with it, but that doesn't mean it's bad, or have I'll intent.

@Raine749

7 күн бұрын

@@FriendlyArintickling is not sa

If you're going on Twitter for "nuance," frankly, you're just gonna end up losing braincells. Social media has become nothing more than a bunch of echo chambers at this point.

@P_araps

4 ай бұрын

@Tim45-rs6xzyou don't wanna know

@blazie42069

4 ай бұрын

Yep

@tdbla98

4 ай бұрын

If you're going on Twitter for nuance, you've already lost a lot of braincells

@SleepyMook

4 ай бұрын

If you’re going on Twitter in general you’re gonna end up losing braincells.

@cooliostarstache5474

4 ай бұрын

My brain is quickly approaching critical rot, I don't think I'm going to survive another video

Ngl Cati made it super hard for me to not believe that she is being malicious when in her first statement that she made George and grouped Dream into being predatory af when she said “they forced us to drink” and then later that shit was false. Dream had nothing to do with this.

@N4chtigall

4 ай бұрын

She made it super hard to believe when she presented herself basically as a child even though she is an adult.

@yin-sin

4 ай бұрын

“Freshly 18” when she turned 18 in January

@chemystrypassionfyre729

4 ай бұрын

Tbh she didn't say they forced then to drink. Just that they were offered a drink when they arrived which is normal for a party?? No one put a gun to their head and forced them. Their drinks were not spiked or anything

@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378

3 ай бұрын

​@@N4chtigall nah she's young adult.

@exikat

3 ай бұрын

@@chemystrypassionfyre729 If I remembered correctly, the original story was "They pressured us to drink" and then George came out with screenshots showing that her group was already intending on drinking when they got there.

My whole high school, town, state, country, world should be arrested for SA if thats what tickling is. Shes wants to be a victim so badly. She sounds like she watched some teen movie about SA and just tries to repeat the script of “what it feels like” to be SA. This is just more proof how “believe all women” was one of the dumbest periods in history and false accusations need to be punished way more severely. The thing is, she probably actually thinks she was SA’d too when she clearly was NOT. Thats the scary thing

Something I don't get. There were a bunch of other "influences" in the hotel room there with them. Why haven't any of them spoken out and told us what they saw? Would be easy to get to the truth of the story if people could just be open and honest.

@whateverwhatever4026

4 ай бұрын

Some have talked about it....But because nothing happened...

@FMOLETTE

4 ай бұрын

@@whateverwhatever4026not true. They talked about having an 18 year old drunk and when confronted they said nothing else, all they had to say was they got an 18 year old drunk which wasn’t true to begin with (in the sense they got her drunk rather than she got drunk)

@codexmachina1358

4 ай бұрын

@@FMOLETTE can we please stop taking away agency from women

@whateverwhatever4026

4 ай бұрын

@@FMOLETTE So what are you arguing with? You said they didn't do that, so nothing happened....She got herself drunk.

@manu-animation-924

4 ай бұрын

@@FMOLETTEnah bro get your source straight bro. She went there wanting to play drinking games and continued drinking not because of gnf that’s just brain rot all people that opened up said the same things as George said unlike Caiti were inconsistency were everywhere even her friends couldn’t tell it without inconsistency (that’s a bad look)

The older generation is panicking that no one is having kids. Meanwhile, this is what happens when young men and women interact now. I wonder what the problem could be?

@fudgen.a1249

4 ай бұрын

Raising babies can be expensive and time consuming. And depending on where you live, can also be heavily resource intensive.

@bnuuycomrade5089

4 ай бұрын

Shitty parents make mostly shitty kids. Kids who had horrible parents don't want to become them or have shitty kids. Solution? Don't have kids. Yeah it's much more complicated than that but that's one of the reasons people have.

@statiicwolf183

4 ай бұрын

@@fudgen.a1249but also because everyone in at least the USA wants to create drama about inappropriate looking and gym stuff. Men can’t really do anything in this country without getting flamed for it. You cry? Man up. You got heart broken? Get over it. You got fired? You deserved it. That’s what people/men are taught

@HipixOFFICIAL

3 ай бұрын

☕️

@stirlingshade

3 ай бұрын

Everyone acting like children because their parents never raised them right. Next we got rude ass red pillers, which I can promise ye no sane lady wants to date. Then we got laws that attack men literally for just touching a lady. Yesterday for fun I picked up a smaller lady, she was small and adorable. I just had to mess with her. Plus, I knew me and her were pretty cool. My poor friend made a joke that he could never do that because he'd catch a case. He ain't bloody wrong and his comment really points out a flaw in our society. Oh and ye can't own anything' because everything is way too expensive now. Government might want to fix that but we all know they won't.

I mean look: -she and her friends changed the narrative multiple times -at one time shes not sober, but then she is sober? and keep in mind, INITIALLY the claim was "guy taking advantage of drunk teenager" -she lied about being 21, thats just not legal -she's 18, there's no "freshly 18", she's 18 and an adult, she should've known better you only bring "power dynamics" and "age gap" when both of those thing influence the decision -she should've said no, power dynamics play no role in this, her and his friends clearly WILL support her if she said no -age gap only matters if it provide some kind of advantage, like strength and what, just because your friends in there does that mean you HAVE to go with them? no if you're not ok with hanging out with 26 yo, why are you even coming there?

@shadowhalk225

4 ай бұрын

I'm not on her side but you have some wrong information here. I don't remember a time where she said she was sober, she stated that she was drinking at a party before going to Dream's party. She didn't say she was 21 at all, everyone assumed she was 21 because her friends had been going to 21+ parties and took her with them (which it is illegal for people to buy alcohol for those under drinking age).

@aruvius

4 ай бұрын

not saying George is guilty or Caiti is right, but some of your points aren’t very good: - It’s wrong, but lying about your age isn’t inherently illegal (and yeah, George is _not_ to be blamed for Caiti possibly lying here) - It’s the legal age but turning 18 doesn’t automatically bless you with all the wisdom in the world, she’s still going to act like a teenager - As Caiti turned out to be almost 10 years younger than him, and George is famous, age gap+power dynamic can be accounted for (if she really felt pressured by these factors) - It’s not bizarre for Caiti to follow her friends during an event, cause like, she would’ve been left alone otherwise

@Sleepy_Kitsune

4 ай бұрын

@@aruvius not the op but... lying about your age to drink or enter age restricted areas IS illegal while yes turning 18 doesnt magically make you wise, it does make you a legal adult, some people in their 50s are dumb as dirt the age/power dynamic only mattered when they were alone, which by all accounts they werent left entirely alone UNTIL her friends left her with him when they could have just took her with em, the power dynamic doesnt matter if its her and her friends against him and the final point ... she was left alone at one point, she decided NOT to follow her friends at that point

@idriswashington2766

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@aruvius18 is 18 period she’s an adult and he most likely didn’t know how old she was the age gap and power dynamics argument is ridiculous

@djinnspalace2119

4 ай бұрын

@@shadowhalk225 some of them definitely have had the 21 bracelet on, caiti was with them, and she was drinking alcohol. while he never asked about her age, she knew his age. if i see someone drive a car, im not gonna ask if they are above the age of 12.

This feels very freaking sensationalist and stupid, marking all MC YTers as “monsters/diddlers/unforgivable/etc”. If we can’t handle some insignificant C-tier drama, how tf are we supposed to band together through more pressing societal and political issues?

You’re failing to account for how Caiti’s friend Rue was calling Dream an enabler and Dream’s mentally impaired stans were angry at him for covering up SA. He was already catching a lot of heat. It’s not him making things about himself, people were already doing that for him.

God I'm so glad I don't pay attention to bullshit like this. People are so fast to ditch and shit on someone they've been following for years the moment a random woman fake cries on camera. The worst part is how I've seen several people's whole lives and careers being ruined because of selfish, attention-seeking degenerates.

Minecraft KZreadrs, am I right?

@kadoharp

4 ай бұрын

Old habits die hard

@starlightplaysminecraft9743

4 ай бұрын

Fr

@chimoshi3393

4 ай бұрын

They just go hand and hand at this point

@fantasysherlockholmes

4 ай бұрын

Amen

@shadowhalk225

4 ай бұрын

Usually I'd agree, but George ain't one of em. Don't like the man but it's clear he didn't assault anyone and Catie considers a night of regret for SA

This may be a hot take but I don't think you can victimize yourself by saying you're under the influence and underage when you made the choice to drink at 18. I mean SA is SA so even if your sober its unacceptable but when you're eighteen you're not a child. You know you're not allowed to drink for a reason and chose to ignore that. It's just bugs me when people fish for sympathy like I had just graduated from high school. Own up to your bad decisions. We don't need you to tell us your age played a role.

@MostGenericUser

4 ай бұрын

I agree, the real issue was the fact that it was sexual assault, the other details are almost irrelevant

@octav7438

4 ай бұрын

@@bnuuycomrade5089 in the us 18 is legal age. Only thing that changes at 21 is that you can drink. You aren't a 'minor' at 18 in the US.

@bnuuycomrade5089

4 ай бұрын

@@octav7438 isn't a young adult a term? If not then shit I'm retarded

@katamichi8003

4 ай бұрын

@@octav7438 Hit the nail on the head. Well I guess you can rent a car when you're 25. It's hard to even define what makes you an adult considering the age of consent changes throughout the states. In some states it's as young as 15. But to say you're an adult when you're 18 it's pretty fair Consider its the age you can enlist in the Army.

@666slateran666

4 ай бұрын

She literally did just graduate high school

Gotta love how during her first callout she was crying all the time, while during her last she was smiling and seemed only pissed at people that were doubting her. Minecraft stans never fail to show off their lack of critical thinking skills when it comes to allegations

@Quantum1244

4 ай бұрын

I didn’t even see a single tear come from her face

@chupppy2086

4 ай бұрын

I feel like that’s just how trauma works honestly especially stuff like this but honestly at this point I just don’t like either of them at this point

@codexmachina1358

4 ай бұрын

@@chupppy2086 tell me you have no experience with flirtatious/sexual interaction without telling me you have none. She is not traumatized. Even if her original story was 100% the real deal, and he just suddenly shoved his hand up her bra and squeezed her honker, that's not trauma. It's disgusting and messed up, but the idea of even calling it traumatic not only takes away from actual victims of real trauma but also adds to this cancerous zoomer mindset that something awkward happening = "I can never shower away the disgust". If everything she said was real, she has every right to come forward and say it was gross. But with her flowery language you've been tricked, with no life experience, that she's ACTUALLY traumatized.

@jamesmorrison7989

4 ай бұрын

@@chupppy2086 what did he do that’s unlikeable? They had a consensual encounter and she turned it into something more nefarious and put him on blast even tho he did nothing wrong

@MarioMasterProductions

4 ай бұрын

​@@Quantum1244 I noticed that too

Spoiler alert: She was LYING and changed her story multiple times

@sapunjavimacor

4 ай бұрын

no waY!!!

@murtza_6640

4 ай бұрын

Yare yare daze

@JonHop1

4 ай бұрын

@@sapunjavimacor yeah she is a clown.

@shadowhalk225

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say lying, I'd say she regrets what happened and feels taken advantage of. However, she is misinterpreting events and labelling her experience as SA when in fact it is not.

@JonHop1

4 ай бұрын

@@shadowhalk225 I think she is lying to herself... I think this is all a lie and she just doing this for PR and victim status

Lmao it’s not sexual assault. Take it to court… see what happens.

It's always important to look at a motive. Why would someone come out against a KZreadr? Fame or to speak out? I think until there's conclusive proof of one or the other. I don't think it's great to heavily take one side or the other, it's best to just wait and see how things go. Silence doesn't mean guilt.

@Parleyposadajr2248

4 ай бұрын

that is a great approach to things man wish there were more people like you out there

@Untoldanimations

4 ай бұрын

They’re both adults. Nothing noteworthy happened

@CrystallineLore

4 ай бұрын

The thing about motive like this is that it just doesn't always work. There are more pychopaths and mentally ill people than many want to admit, and some people are just cruel and petty and enjoy hurting others. Humans are also complex creatures, with complex thoughts and emotions.

@tdbla98

4 ай бұрын

She literally lied multiple times, she got up and walked away, and sat back down with him, she admitted he must not have knew her age because she was drinking with a fucking 21+ wristband. She's an idiot if she actually thinks she was assaulted with the things she's said. Also he didn't know she was 18 and not above 21, the emoji she used to say 18 doesn't show on a commercial account. She stood up after "being assaulted" and then went back to him MULTIPLE TIMES. she hasn't even disassembled any of his responses. She keeps adding new info that "I just forgot" I'm sorry, him touching your stomach turning into "oh he touched my tits" when he replies with obvious evidence nothing happened or didn't happen the way you said it did, nobody will believe you. She lied about cuddling with him, she lied about her age and didn't tell him, she shouldn't have been underage drinking in an adult content creators hotel anyway. She's an idiot and deserves the hate. She wasn't assaulted by what's come out. You can't just be believed when you lie and don't provide evidence.

What 18 year old does something like that? Ruining someone’s reputation, career, relationships. Makes her feel powerful? Sad. I guess she won’t have a future online. That won’t go away, unfortunately the same goes for the lies. This behaviour should be punished. What are these false accusers even thinking? What if someone falsely accused ends himself? Would that be a W?

That sweatshirt can't hide those guns! DAYAM #Gamerfromgym

@Megalaglag

4 ай бұрын

Speaking of that shirt. Man’s got taste in music

@Scrotom

4 ай бұрын

Wow, so gross of you to objectify him!!1

@BlueOysterStan

4 ай бұрын

GainsFromMars

@OuredFoster

4 ай бұрын

@@Megalaglag I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT I FOUND ANOTHER FAN OF THIS BAND

@Mr._.Andrian

4 ай бұрын

I prefer #GainerFromMars

Philza said “always believe victims” in response to shubble’s accusations. I will forever disagree with that statement, and this is why.

@djinnspalace2119

4 ай бұрын

agree so much with this. everything needs to be looked at before believing anyone. even with shubble herself, last time she came out herself i was on her side, this time when she comments about another case, im not.

@AmirPrinceling

4 ай бұрын

The whole "always believe victims" is why we're at a point where someone can so easily pretend to be a victim with next to no pushback. Then book, the accused gets fired or losers a chunk of their following or whatever. Have to use your common sense and look at the nuance in situations rather than believing every twitlonger with selectively cropped discord screenshots.

@CrystallineLore

4 ай бұрын

I will forever disagree with that statement simply because it's deranged. Women are not special unicorns, they are humans too. Humans have a long history of choosing self-interest over others, lying, betraying, etc. They are every bit as capable of malice as every other human. Do most women lie about this kind of stuff? I genuinely believe no, but that doesn't mean we should just believe it out of hand. We should definitely give them benefit of the doubt, but just arbitarily believing someone is so insane that I can't believe nutjobs actually believe it's perfectly fine.

@coltonwilkie241

4 ай бұрын

I never believe "victims". Come with proof or buzz off.

@clash_king1025

3 ай бұрын

I thought the Kwite situation would be enough proof that “always believe the victim” is a terrible mentality Apparently I was wrong

Her whole video reads like an erotic fanfiction 🤣 "Freshly 18" 😂😂😂 She recorded this video and said she wrote a script so she'd get it right, but didn't cut the parts where she's crying too hard to understand? Nah man...

@octav7438

4 ай бұрын

Freshly 18 while her birthday is in January and it happened in June. At this point, she was almost 'freshly 19'. I am waiting for people to start saying on their birthdays 'freshly 25'. "Just became freshly 40"

There are 2 types of stans - those who will instantly turn on their favorite person and become a hater if they get into any controversy or those who will cope forever and stick with them even if they eat a living baby on camera. There's nothing in-between.

Ah the good ol’ “only women can’t control themselves when drunk” argument. She sits there and admits, multiple times, to drinking. And admits that everyone was drinking. And yet her memory is crystal clear? 18 is an adult but clearly she has a lot of growing up to do.

Regardless of what really happened “freshly 18” only means that you are now an adult in the eyes of the law. That's like the DMV denying your driver's license because you are freshly 16. Her reminding her audience that she freshly 18 and is just trying to get additional sympathy. If it is true, just state the facts.

people IRL when someone's doing something that makes them uncomfortable: "can u not" influencers: "i didn't wanna break up everyone's fun..." / "no one would believe me.." / "i thought if i remained quiet about it, they'd stop" use ur words use ur brain please you have the guts to sit in front of a camera and rally people you've never seen in ur life but cannot utter a word IRL, all i question is how that is.

@ReiDosSnipers

4 ай бұрын

you are genuinely stupid if you believe what you wrote, SA victims dont speak up for a variety of reasons

@johnmanpls5577

4 ай бұрын

Victim blaming going crazy

@VentA_7

4 ай бұрын

To be fair she was drunk, forming a coherent comment is hard. To be extra fair: they were both drunk.

@sapunjavimacor

4 ай бұрын

@@VentA_7 throw fists tbh

@pkz420

4 ай бұрын

@@johnmanpls5577 No victim blaming here. People are not blaming George, anymore.

If Dream and his buddies had learned a single thing from any of their last four years of controversies, this should have been an easy slam dunk win for them. Caiti’s story has numerous holes/inconsistencies, her friends are clearly very biased against them, and we still don’t even know a lot about what happened. But since the Dream Team has zero self-awareness, they completely fumbled the response and have essentially lost any remaining goodwill they had with their old Twitter fans. George making three separate responses to the allegations is insane, even if he was only doing so in response to Caiti also changing parts of her story. I don’t think this will be 100% career ending for Dream/George as they really are too big to fail, but my guess is they will end up in like CallMeCarson: pulling consistently good views but never able to reach the same peak they were able to. Man, if only they knew encouraging your 15 year old fans to sexualize them in fanfics and fan art might have negative ramifications down the line, especially if those 15 year old stans grow up and become content creators (your peers).

The whole dreamsmp is falling

@King_Jockey

4 ай бұрын

good

@aperson2739

4 ай бұрын

Good

@timidpan

4 ай бұрын

Techno would be dissapointed if he were still alive

@danang5

4 ай бұрын

@@timidpan man imagine the joke he makes if he's still alive,especially at wilbur

@Toileetpapr

2 ай бұрын

@@danang5 “get a load of this ankle biter”

at the end of the day, caiti lied about her age, got drunk (which is illegal for a reason), hooked up with an older man she knew was older, and then accused said man for being a predator after regretting her mistakes, faking evidence in the process. george met a 21 year old woman (to his knowledge) while being 26, cuddled with her, and then made advancements after she seemed okay with it. thats the whole truth. im convinced she truly believes she got SA by george since she is so immature and her friends seem to talk her into believing it. and george knows/feels like caiti is just confused more than anything, hence his response. added to that, caiti seems extremely untrustworthy and very malicious, caring more about drama than actually getting her story out. to clarify, back when shubble came out with her allegations, i was on shubbles side, so dont hit me with the "oh, he just believes the man" bs ive been seeing lot as an argument recently. im above that. last time shubble had a point while this time shes off the mark. this is the first time ive ever heard about any one of those people so i am completely unbiased.

@lukalukovic5082

4 ай бұрын

Women are scared of consequences of their own actions

@mintycokies8057

4 ай бұрын

Guess what? They didn't hook up🫶🏻

@inky1159

4 ай бұрын

​@@mintycokies8057which is even worse on her part, whats your point loser?

@octav7438

4 ай бұрын

@@mintycokies8057 Well. Originally she said he tickled her. But no one cared so she said he grabbed her waist. But no one cared so she said he touched her under her shirt. But no one cared so she said he fondled her boobs. It seems as the story is about as reliable as a chrysler 300.

@mintycokies8057

3 ай бұрын

@@octav7438 lmao next time she changes the story she might as well say her and George did the did🤷🏻‍♀️

These fanbases are too volatile. I believe every creator with a fanbase like this will be ripped to shreds over nothing. It's so frustrating to see

If this went to court, both parties would be judged as adults. As anyone below the age of 17 are subjected to different laws as your a child like her. Which you do not apply at. You can move out of your parents. Legally buy a gun. Work at a strip club start in adult videos. Make an only fans all at only 18. What she should have done instead of posting it online. It’s just go to the authorities after it happened. It just seems disingenuous to victims when you don’t take matters seriously.

Just wanna say I hate George and friends, but after hearing both sides, it's literally a girl who regrets the encounter, not SA. Catie had several opportunities to distance herself from George, even admitting to getting up several times only to go back to the couch to cuddle with him. Verbal consent is not a common thing if you go out to parties, you'd actually be laughed at if you ask a girl for consent to kiss her or touch her. If you can't flirt or communicate with body language at clubs/parties, then you're not going to get anywhere with women. From texts it shows that the girls were already drunk from a previous party, and demanded that they play the drinking game during the 2nd night where the encounter took place. The drunk argument only works if one party is sober and takes advantage of a party that clearly is inebriated, if two people are wasted and sleep together then it's drunk sex, NOT a crime. The only legitimate crime from all of this is the fact that her friends who were of age, bought alcoholic drinks to get an 18 year old drunk...

@who__cares__

4 ай бұрын

Reminds me of this girl I went to school with who consented to a train but then when people started finding out, she said the guys r*ped her

@anibababa

4 ай бұрын

Honestly these are all grown men and they should act like it. All the drama they get into is ridiculous and feels like they're just playing out the high school bad boy fantasies that they never got to have. A shameful display.

@yackerist

4 ай бұрын

Even then, it's not like the people who bought the alcohol bought it specifically for underaged people to drink. It definitely sounds like she just regrets it, or is being pushed into believing that she is a victim by one of her friends. Sounds to me like the entire thing is just two people who weren't properly communicating anything. If he didn't know she was 18, the instant solution to that would have been to just tell him right when he started touching her. That would have instantly stopped all of this. The fact that she knew he was older, and still let him cuddle her is truly telling of what the entire situation is.

@timidpan

4 ай бұрын

Damn both sides are at fault, man what a generation

@yackerist

4 ай бұрын

@@timidpan In most situations, problems are caused by two parties having a misunderstanding or fundamental differences. This has been true for every generation ever. The problem with this generation is that nobody is allowed to say that sometimes nobody is in the right, and it's a convoluted situation. The types of people who stan these minecraft youtuibers, are people who need to feel like they're right, or like they're not to blame. This shit shouldn't even be happening online, like we shouldn't be airing all of this "drama" out on the internet, especially when this isn't even "drama," it's literally a crime if that she's saying is true. This shit is ruining the minds of all the dumbass teens who fall into stan culture. So sad and so retarded.

“Freshly 18” 😭

@Spurgte

3 ай бұрын

Lmao

@Toileetpapr

2 ай бұрын

Mentioning 18 is fine but how is “fresh” relevant? 😭

So much "crying" but not a single tear.

yeah she's definitely a wattpad/tumblr user

Listen if George admits that he actually touch her without asking than sure I can see why this all had to be said. but I also feel that this all could have been private since the internet loves to exaggerate it all.

@jamesmorrison7989

4 ай бұрын

That’s such a bizarre thing to expect everyone to directly ask before any physical touch. Never once have I asked that specifically. Typically it’s pretty obvious with context clues, and from the sounds of the story, she was digging it as well

@chupppy2086

4 ай бұрын

@@jamesmorrison7989 listen if it’s someone you know then sure but if your a big influencer and you met someone the first time that is young (I think he is at least) then you should always ask.

@Zveebo

4 ай бұрын

Consent does not have to be verbal - and isn’t in many, perhaps most, sexual encounters. If two adults have been flirting and cuddling on a sofa for an hour, one of them moving their hand under the other’s top, seemingly with no objection at all at the time, is well within the bounds of consent (or at worst, what he could reasonably presume was consensual). The whole drama is completely unnecessary. But then that holds true for 90% of Minecraft drama.

@shadowhalk225

4 ай бұрын

Neither I nor the women I've been with have verbally consented to being kissed/touched, it just doesn't happen in social settings. You communicate consent through body language and mutual verbal flirtation. Catie had every opportunity to stop it, even got up several times only to lay back and cuddle with him. I have been denied by women without them verbally telling me so at parties, like they remove my arm from around them or playfully push me away if im too close. It's embarrassing but let me tell you, any man would prefer a night of embarrassment over life ruining accusations.

@jamesmorrison7989

4 ай бұрын

@@Zveebo I’m convinced that this is caused by kids spending all their free time online rather than actually meeting girls/guys. Anyone who’s ever had a normal relationship, or even simply made it to first base, should understand that you don’t need to directly ask someone for consent. They spent all their time online rather than learning basic nonverbal communication.

It’s funny cos Caiti came out at the peak of the Shubble/Wilbur situation, a real story that’s actually believable. Caiti completely took the attention from her to tell a bunch of lies for herself.

So he sexually assaulter her that night, but yet she kept talking to him via DM and never once made it clear to him that he did anything wrong. Also if there were plenty of people around at the time of the "assault," it would have been so easy for her to speak out and shame him in front of a group of people. It might be true that she didn't give him consent, but she clearly made no attempt to make it clear that she was uncomfortable, or that she wanted him to stop.

His career isnt destroyed, they're false allegations he'll be fine lmao

truly a freshly 18 moment

i'm just so confused about something here so i'm 26 and legal age of consent here is 16, now i would NEVER bang a 16 year old because my moral age of consent lies with the legal age of consent of the states i just find that the 2 year gap is there to make the system make more sense and for judges to act accordingly, however this man is being treated like he's a pedophile for attempting to get with a girl who is THE LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT, well that just makes no sense to me, i mean if he was 35 or 40 it would be creepy as hell but still

Freshly 18, lol. I have very little sympathy for her, unfortunately. She needs to take some accountability for her actions, it's not all George's fault. Also, the beta orbiter who was screaming "she cried in my arms!!1!" needs to drink some water and calm down.

@casperryborg4869

2 ай бұрын

Easy there my dude. He probably just got on estrogen hormones, he might be a bit up in the air because of it!

The GNF situation is so confusing that I don’t even care anymore. But I can agree on that this should have been settled in private and hope both side move on from this.

Being 18 is legal in the United States. Also, she was in the wrong for underage, drinking being an adult, knowing that she shouldn’t be doing that. Either way, taking advantage of all drunk is bad

@SlavTiger

4 ай бұрын

both of them were drunk, neither of them were in condition to consent, there's a clause for that situation im pretty sure.

The one time where a KZreadr is actually innocent. This girl literally had no problem with the incident for years and then out of the blue became “deeply uncomfortable with it” after her friends talked her into it. Her story went from “he cuddled me without my consent. I didn’t say no. But I also didn’t say yes”. Then when she got backlash she said “he tickled me”. Then when that got backlash she changed her story again to “he grabbed a boob”. This George guy got gaslit so hard he now believes he’s a predator that needs to throw himself on the fire. This is insane. I’m usually all for believe in all women. But this girl is literally a nut. Both were drunk, and the KZreadr cuddled her in bed and did nothing more. She left and even came back to hang out with him further. Again completely fine with things for years until her friends convinced her she was a victim 😂 Edit: forgot to add she lied to everyone about her age and snuck into this 21 or over event. She was already 18 and about to turn 19 in a few months. Yet her group of friends are pushing this narrative that he groomed a minor. Ridiculous. Again I’d understand if George actually assaulted her or did something. But they literally cuddled when they were both drunk and she never said anything. This is insane.

@JonHop1

4 ай бұрын

"Freshly 18" is not a meme LOL... And funny think is, she wasnt Freshly 18 at all, she was like 6-7 months past her 18th Birthday... She is clearly a spoiled brat who has been treated like a child her whole life...

@ketomine.

4 ай бұрын

calling cuddling sexual assault is like calling someone stepping on the back of your shoe as attempted murder

@JonHop1

4 ай бұрын

George should sue her. She maliciously lied, left out crucial details, and portrayed him as a predator.

@JonHop1

4 ай бұрын

@@ketomine. lol and now "freshly 18" is a meme lol... She wasnt even "freshly 18" either.. She was 6-7 months past her Bday.

@ZippoIII

4 ай бұрын

"The one time a youtuber is actually innocent" that would be a fun story when it would actually have happened, the creep touched someone inappropriately, how is touching someone without their consent "tickling" y'all really outing yourself with these comments

Ninja saying he won't collab with female creators was possibly the smartest thing he ever did.

@ReaperCH90

4 ай бұрын

When the worst thing of your millions of dollar career are only a bit of cringe and some great memes, you really made it.

@banishedepsilon1802

4 ай бұрын

It's unfortunate that this kind of stuff is so common that it's necessary to avoid an entire sex

@lizard2165

4 ай бұрын

​@@banishedepsilon1802but when women wanna avoid men its a problem

@anthonyg5001

4 ай бұрын

@@lizard2165because when men claim SA it’s laughed off or ignored. They’re expected to “man”

@lizard2165

4 ай бұрын

@@anthonyg5001 And that is why our patriarchal society is a problem, it affects men too.

Remember life before twitter?

@SlavTiger

4 ай бұрын

pepper ridge farms remembers

Dreams literal weakness is Twitter there I said it.

@ZippoIII

4 ай бұрын

And little kids

@coralcored

4 ай бұрын

​@@ZippoIIIthe accusations were proven false. Why are you still grasping onto it.

@ZippoIII

4 ай бұрын

@@coralcored lmao they weren't, he did it, and he even admitted to it, why are you still defending minecraft creep of the month?

@coralcored

4 ай бұрын

@@ZippoIII lmao dream didn't and never admitted to it. He debunked all of the claims. Are you purposefully being dvmb?? 💀kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2yepJKzgdzZl8o.htmlsi=90zvyhMnBke8zG4u

@coralcored

4 ай бұрын

@@ZippoIII lmao dream didn't and never admitted to it. He debunked all of the claims with proof. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2yepJKzgdzZl8o.htmlsi=90zvyhMnBke8zG4u

Don’t at all agree with catie(??) but I do want to say that an 18 year old can absolutely be groomed if there’s an unfair power dynamic like a large age gap. Not saying that’s at all what happened in this situation, but that generalization can be harmful to real victims of grooming

I think people who keep asking why dream keeps getting into dramas that 'aren't his business' are fucking dicks. Wilbur was atleast a work associate even if not a full 'friend' to dream they often interacted, the dream SMP i am pretty sure they had passing events on SMP earth and they where both good friends to technoblade so they likely interacted. And then you have George who is the man's best friend, If you ever wanted to know how close these two where watch the videos about george's colorblindness specially the one where george gets those glasses that allow someone like him to see the full color spectrum more easily. (Dream gets so excited when george realizes he's green and it's honestly so sweet) The dude is trying to be involved with his friends whether it's the disappointment in wilbur or worried about george and what's going on. Now onto the Caiti george thing proper. I think Caiti is either falling into the trap of 'only reveal as much as you need to' which is why her story keeps getting worse cause she keeps not wanting to reveal the whole thing and thus shoots herself in the foot, Or Caiti is self-gaslighting herself into basically making the story worse each time in order to 'win' the fight. Either way Caiti has effectively shot herself in the foot with this action and is going to lose over all. The whole 'victims need to provide proof instead of getting the support they desperately need' line is often given by people who are themselves not victims, and it's because not-victims play the victim card that actual victims aren't believed without proof cause god forbid we want more then the word of one woman before lynching a man. Along with that I'm wondering if Caiti actually had issues with it at first. Thinking on some of the info given and the friend's version of the story contradicting Caiti's. I'm wondering if she actually had issue with it or any negative feelings. George said that her friends disliked him and his friends. Well we all know that changing the feelings and meaning of events and memories isn't that hard, that's the entire concept of gaslighting. I wonder if her friends actually gaslighted Caiti into having issues because for being rather smart, Caiti engaged in the double standard of "i the woman was drunk so i couldnt' consent even if i said yes, while george the guy was drunk but that's no excuse for his behavior." Which is rather stupid for someone who seems otherwise smart enough. Similarly the fact she was 18 but pretending to be 21, engaging in underaged drinking and getting into a room with people of power. The fact that someone like george was up for and into cuddling with her and touching her up likely was more of an ego boost for her, untill she was convinced it was wrong. I'm not saying this is what happened but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities given the situation. The fact Shubble defended her isn't a good look for Shubble. I get wanting to protect fellow victims but what Shubble went through was 100% real and consistent, wilbur even admits to the bullshit he pulled and intends to try and better himself just to avoid making those mistakes again. While caiti's situation is far less straight forward. Defending her when her story can't even be kept straight really hinders shubble and could lead to more people being willing to forgive wilbur for what he did. Also the people bringing it up are right, why is everyone trying to paint george as a monster keep infantalizing an Adult woman. She was 18, she knew she wasn't 21, she still accepted drinks. If it was like "oh no i'm 18 i can't drink' and them being like 'nah you here you drink" and then he started feeling her up, sure, that'd be fucked. But that's not what happened, she was 18, got into a 21+ event, and accepted drink from people over 21 without question and without setting the record straight Before getting the drinks. This is the same kind of fuckfuck games as those 14-17 year olds who get accounts on tinder to bang 18+ people. You're old enough to know better, you know the rules and the laws, and you're still deciding to break them and turn around and pin it on the other person?

This whole situation is unbelievably stupid and is basically just attention seeking and the usual twitter brain rottness

@sundae8475

3 ай бұрын

thisss!

Year 2050: Written consent notarized by a notary public required to flirt with a girl.

Why are peeps hating on Dream for talking about this? If he hadn't internet would have been pressuring him to talk about it. Just like they did Jenna Ortega, Josh Peck and many others who just because they're friends or worked together with the abused or accused and for some reason want to know what they think.

I think this whole ordeal has been blown out of proportions. George thought Katie liked him cause she acted like it, a few days later she claims its SA when it was just flirting. George tries to apologies for making her feel that way while also clarifying his perspective. She tries to disregard it by making the situation worse.

Oh my gosh... I support George but there are so many people with the baboonish idea that you turn 18 and are magically an adult... Even if there was a point where your mind just leveled up, 18 isnt even even close to that! Brain development is a complicated and very messy process but most people finish development between ages 21 and 25 (hence the drinking age), the AoC is 18 for the same reason its 14 in Germany, kids are going to have sex no matter what age it is and a lower AoC allows them to seek support for that without social, legal, and medical restrictions.

Sounds like another classic case of i came to hang out with famous people and had an ulterior motive the entire time. You were 18 and were ambiguous about your age. Got YOURSELF drunk and then decided to use that to give yourself clout. Its sad really that this is the state of the world

If she’s that confident take him to court she won’t win her argument seems shaky at best

I'm confused why she's emphasizing her age when she's a legal adult? I don't discount her assault, but her age has nothing to do with it. Just seems a weird way to try to frame someone as a creep when she's considered an adult. And while I agree she shouldn't have been given alcohol based on US laws, in many countries, the drinking age is 18, and in some, 16.

I remember when I went to war, and I told the enemy to not kill me, cuz you know "Im Freshly 18"...

They were stupid to turn against George. It's so obvious she was lying. Her videos came across as a bad actresses very bad audition reel. I can't believe people believed her. Anyone who believed her, even for a minute, is an idiot.

I just think George was into her didn’t know her age and she’s tryna get some clout off an even she no longer is comfortable with

If that happens you contact the police not cry about it on the internet

It's pretty sad that so many people have lied about this stuff that none of its believable anymore

Complete and utter nonsense, the girl should face punishment for trying to destroy a guys life

@Rich_P_Anya

4 ай бұрын

You should face punishment for being so excitable and crange

I think I'm a little against the grain here. I *do* think GeorgeNotFound touched that person's breasts. I do not know why she didnt say that initially, but if i had to guess it was for dramatic effect. He did not say it because she did not say it, but in retrospect they both semed to imply it. However I also think that they were touching and cuddling for some time and gradually worked up towards that kind of touching and I think she did participate and went along with it at the time, and felt differently about it later. For that reasom I would not call him a sex offender, criminal, dangerous, or anything bad like that. I do think he should be more careful because you dont want to be part of a regrettable thing for someome even if you aren't technically in the wrong. I think she made a bad decision constantly asserting that he committed SA. The information available currently does not support that accusation. One point I will give to the accuser, she did not name the person she was accusing, internet "detectives" figured that out and were correct in this case. I think this is important because when you just say somwthing bad happened to you, people will show empathy. But once another person is named and shamed, some people need to feel reasonably certain that they really did the crime, and if the information they have does not show that, or on this case contradicts it, people are gonna deem him not guilty and turn on the accuser becsuse it starts to seem more and more like false accusations. I don't think she is completely lying about feeling hurt and extremely negative about the experience, but i think it was not SA and the best thing would have been her telling him how he made her feel and him making the same applogy he did on twitter except privately. This is not an issue that should have been exposed to public scrutiny and based on the information available it seems like an interpersonal issue, not a sex crime

NICE IDKHOW HOODIE!! Have you listened to the new album?

she's pulling the drunk card but /both/ were drinking (in which case neither party legally had an advantage necessarily, there is a clause for when both parties are drunk, if one is and the other isnt it's sa, if both are drunk, then other factors are what matters), and she wasn't even supposed to be there (drinking age is 21 not 18), she changed the story several times (first claimed it was cuddling then it was touching waist then it was reaching upshirt), and she had seen him several times /after/ before saying anything (why didnt she do or say anything sooner?). if this were a boat it'd be taking on water with the holes. i dont really want to make a judgement either way without concrete evidence, but circumstances aren't looking that credible. Im not really on George's side, but this is a pretty shit accusation without much to prove anything, and a story that seems to keep changing, lastly she keeps acting like this was grooming, but she was legally an adult. Why even was an 18 yo at a 21+ party anyhow? I partially blame lack of id checking, but i digress. TLDR this seems fishy but with only anecdotal evidence and no third party accounts from the event, it's hard to really say without it going to court.

@TheGamerFromMars you may have a huge spambot comment problem

@nilpyc307

4 ай бұрын

yea i see those i hope yt sue the people making those bots

@fissure2132

4 ай бұрын

@@nilpyc307correct me if im wrong but i think they would have to figure out the financial impact of a single one of those bots though, that's basically impossible to do

@giraffeparty0

4 ай бұрын

actually the entire platform has an issue with spam comments right now, and many of them aren't from bots lol. if you're talking abt the comments like "RATIO + MY CONTENT BETTER" that get spammed under every comment on every video, those are real hobby-less people wasting hours to "troll" because they don't get attention irl. if you're talking about GFM impersonators then those r scam bots lol

@ildalailamer8341

4 ай бұрын

@@giraffeparty0 it's neither, they seem legit comments like "i love your content" with very sexy pfp, and if you follow their yt profile they have a banner or a message saying "follow the link" and that link is obv some sort of phishing or scam

@poweroffriendship2.0

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, spam bots on KZread has been a big problem for a long time and it's still spreading like wildfire just to show the bot's desperate for attention and the people who worked on the platform hasn't done anything yet.

Ok I know this may sound dumb by why are you 18 and drinking? That doesn't seem like a good decision to me and like CM punk I'm straight edge I don't need alcohol to have a good time and its lame if you drink at that young of an age because its hard to be responsible.

@befrugalwithus

4 ай бұрын

My exact thoughts also. Depending on her state. Some can drink at 18. But in my State being in Texas. You need legal adult to drink at 18. Hopefully everything will work out.

@HolyGoddessMotherAnne

4 ай бұрын

You speak like a child, come back when you can speak like a responsible adult.

@daxmoney5011

4 ай бұрын

@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne what

@HolyGoddessMotherAnne

4 ай бұрын

@@daxmoney5011 Speak like a responsible adult, speak like you're not having a goddamn stroke or foetal alcohol syndrome is affecting you.

Woman lied, minecraft twitter cried. Truly nothing new. GL being a content creator in that online space at all anymore.

idk why people gotta twist them saying "i was freshly 18" to make it sound like theyre younger, Im going to auto get skeptical when people do that because theyre already showing theyre manipulative. Like if youre going to make a claim like this, just state your age, and their age, doing what she did is going to just make people auto be skeptical such as my self. If what she says is true, then yeah that sucks and shouldnt be happening. But she lost me the moment she used manipulative language lmao. I can believe people with out evidence and I can support people with out evidence, but that is only if theyre not being manipulative from the very get go.

Wait shes 18 so shes an adult

I cannot explain the suckerpunch I was hit with once I realized he was wearing an iDKHOW hoodie

@skippyuber6072

4 ай бұрын

same

@sabbie_stat

4 ай бұрын

What does this mean?

@zackdoom

4 ай бұрын

@@sabbie_statband merch

@ctobolsk

4 ай бұрын

I love iDKHOW. Glad Dallon ditched Ryan though. He’s a piece of work

Ok whenever someone starts the "why should victims have evidence instead of just getting support" speech, is definitely when they lose me An accuser needs evidence of their accusation. Not only is it common sense "which most terminally online people tend to lack nowadays" and its how civilization has worked since we invented laws

this is almost unbearable to watch. it screams the words "america" and "naiv". the girl: i wasnt 21, went to the party anyways. i cant drink alcohol, drinks it anyways. i didnt like them, went to the party anyways. had alcohol on a party, goes to the next party afterwards. is getting touched, goes to the party with the same people anyways. doesnt like "the older guy", responds to him anyways. blames it all on other people.

I love how alcohol is illegal in the us under 21, in europe it would've been fine to drink like crazy even at 16. Legally at least

@Jeff_Biden

4 ай бұрын

europe sucks so lets not be like them

Ngl im just a little confused why they are acting like she is under 18( not talking about underage drinking)

@Shedgie

4 ай бұрын

No ones acting like she’s under 18 but even at 18 you can be taken advantage of she had recently graduated high school and u got a guy almost 10 years older groping her. Most people recognize that as not ok due to the person still being young

@AskMe-fl2sm

4 ай бұрын

Bcz she keep saying freshly 18 & infantilising herself

I swear Twitter and Gen Z are going to make the consent forms from South Park a reality.

I think we should’ve learned by now that you can’t just blindly trust what any one person says, without some sort of evidence.

why are people so stuck on that he was 8 years older than her. she was 18. my partner is 9 years younger than me...

Caty just wanted clout. She is a clout chaser.

Bowblax and Turkey Tom have several videos covering this ordeal, and it has only shown that not having a Twitter has definitely been the best move in life since all I've seen are people with the same IQ as their age. Even after everything over the years especially with the most recent Mama Max situation, you would think people would grow up past the 'believe all "victims" no matter what' sentiment when the accuser brings no proof bor takes the ordeal in a serious manner. Instead of putting this matter online for clout, take it privately to the police if you really feel like you have a case in such a manner. Though with something as laughable as Caitis claims, we already know why she went to Twitter and Twitch with it first. Playing those idiots like a violin.

Her own fault

He admitted to it because he doesn't have much of a choice; He's a guy so he's gonna be demonized if he denies it, so might as well admit it and just deal with it.

@MisogynyMan

4 ай бұрын

But admit to what? Normal behaviour?

@Melagm

4 ай бұрын

He only admitted touching her, but he never admitted it was SA or that he committed a crime, because everything was consensual at that time.

@djinnspalace2119

4 ай бұрын

he admitted to it because there really is nothing to it. he didnt SA her, it gradually led up to that like it normally does. both are adults and he even believed her to be even older at the time.

@AskMe-fl2sm

4 ай бұрын

Actually he denied about admitting to it but twitter ppl ran with him admitting bcz he apologized for hurting her feelings

Let's look at the accusation evolution -groomer (they never met before she turned 18) -abuse of power (in an ironic twist the only person who ruined her life and career is herself) -tickled without consent (they were playfully cuddling and giving each other hints) -distributing alcohol to minor (she snuck in with a 21 and up bracelet (also if she's 18, her drinking issue is on her. The age req for drinking is only for businesses not to distribute alcohol to those under 21 it doesn't automatically absolve you from any fault or determine you as a child that can't make choices))

What everyone has different perspectives its almost as if drunk people aren't the most reliable witnesses

Ive never played Minecraft in my life, but ive been following this one closely since her initial call out. Something seemed SO off about it and i really hope this can mark the beginning of the end for lying/exaggerated claims in order to ruin someone. George needs to stop apologizing and stand up for himself. And dream needs to have his boys back.

You're probably right in saying that everyone will leave worse off when this situation finally ends

I’m building statues of all the cancelled youtubers skins in my realm… will i ever truly finish…

I believe she was a Dream stan and particularly had a crush on George. But he ghosted her when he learned of her true age which she did not like l, so she came up with a plan to ruin George career by turning his friends against him.

Honestly, as an SA victim when I was around that age, I’m finding George’s recollection more believable. I think this is likely the .001%, but what do I know? I don’t know these people. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@stevenm3330

4 ай бұрын

As a TMV (tickle monster victim) I'm happy they are finally closing in on him. After all theses years and tickle monster victims. I remember the first time it happened to me. I was just joking with my dad and he changed.... he changed in to the tickle monster. I could never look at him the same after that day, knowing at anytime he could become a tickle monster again.

@sabbie_stat

4 ай бұрын

Im sorry, but wtf is this comment? I cant tell if your joking or serious, but it comes across creepy and inappropriate. You need to reconsider this comment. ​@stevenm3330

So to recap.... A girl meet a guy she really likes at a party, because he is famous --> They drink and are affectionate the whole night, girl shows interest whole time and makes advances as well as receive them --> party ends and they keep in touch over the course of a few months --> Guy realizes girl lied about age and decides to cut contact --> Girl gets mad that a guy had the audacity to ghost her and fabricates a sexual assault story while monetizing a quickly gaining popularity stream career on the platform Twitch..... That's it ??

Do 18 year olds know what a hotel room party is? People who go to hotel room parties typically have a higher threshold for what they consider to be SA

Alleged victims shouldn't provide evidence? When you state something publicly against a public figure, you need to provide evidence. False allegation hurt, and without evidence you can be sued. Also, as far as age, 18 and 26 is not illegal.

Nah George came out of this looking way better than Wilbur.. That Caiti chik just came off as insane and petty.