How do you make the deepest bass?

Bass music production trick time! Here's a little psychoacoustic trick that makes deep things sound even deeper: make sure the fundamental note is very low, the harmonics are dense, but during the mix-down feel free to snip off all those low frequencies to make space for a dedicated sub-bass.
The track I analyse: Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray - Inhibitions ► • Nox Vahn & Joseph Ray ...
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Content:
0:00 audio example
0:50 the basic sawtooth wave
1:55 doing the same in your DAW
2:18 low frequencies problems
3:10 the fuller result
3:28 key takeaways
4:00 does it need to be analog?

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog8 ай бұрын

    My Foundations courses ► courses.underdog.brussels Patreon ► www.patreon.com/underdogmusicschool Discord ► discord.gg/trDbVcDHB3

  • @somuchfortalent
    @somuchfortalent8 ай бұрын

    This is gold. It connects the act of sound design with the psychology of perception. Probably your best video, and only 5 minutes long.

  • @RoeJogan
    @RoeJogan8 ай бұрын

    Waiting for the crispiest hi-hat, and snappiest snare! Amazing content... !!! its too bad they dont have a level 2 bell you can ring on your youtube channel.. kind of like an 808 cowbell

  • @iamdwsm
    @iamdwsm7 ай бұрын

    Free your inhibitions. Immediately usable advice and straight to the point. Works great for a plucky bass sound as well. Fired up the sub phatty, sampled a nasty, plucky low bass, filtered out the fundamental, and my 808 kicks and toms punch right through with a nasty, nasty bass line over them.

  • @Kyoshi2012
    @Kyoshi20128 ай бұрын

    Crazy man bringing it again!! Super tutorial, bedankt weer!

  • @JosBlomsma
    @JosBlomsma8 ай бұрын

    Je blijft me verrassen, Oscar! Niet alleen door het geven nieuwe inzichten, ook doordat je video's steeds meer 'eigen' worden.

  • @aad369aad
    @aad369aad8 ай бұрын

    You’re the man. Keep doing what you do !

  • @djalteredego
    @djalteredego8 ай бұрын

    A comment outside the box. you have mastered the terminology, my friend. I am very impressed by how easily you can express and explain things. Very clever!

  • @tonair

    @tonair

    8 ай бұрын

    He's definitely put the reps in! Well deserved.

  • @alexanderogorodnikov5069
    @alexanderogorodnikov50698 ай бұрын

    Oscar, thank u 4 your videos! Every video is a new source of inspiration 4 me

  • @niklaszimmermann446
    @niklaszimmermann4468 ай бұрын

    Clean Tutorial as always! The Bass you created is much like a psychedelic trance Bass. In this genre, much of this focused on that kind of Synthesis.

  • @LearnWithStephen
    @LearnWithStephen8 ай бұрын

    Great video. Thanks! You know I dug out my Korg M1 I bought new back in 1990 and put just such a slope on a project. Pitch bend and all. Got close to your example. Fun!

  • @Fluxeon
    @Fluxeon8 ай бұрын

    Really good stuff man, love the video! Interesting technique :)

  • @rosskibossanova
    @rosskibossanova8 ай бұрын

    Great info, I can certainly relate when I’m mixing tracks with too many basses and will separate them out into their own space in the mix mainly band passes. And especially leaving a hole for the kick drum. But I didn’t know about the perception thing that’s really sweet to know! Thanks !

  • @estufilla
    @estufilla8 ай бұрын

    Oscar, be careful, because at some point we will ask you to make visual tutorials as well! Spot on, as always! Keep in on mate.

  • @tadeocatzin6619
    @tadeocatzin66198 ай бұрын

    Oscar throwing gems as usul. Thanks mate!!

  • @hollowgroundproductions
    @hollowgroundproductions8 ай бұрын

    Nice! Good to know that the work of beasts like Joseph Ray is starting to get recognised by other Ableton tutors. I thought mine was the only one!!! His uniquely deep low end is fun to try and break down. Love your vids, Oscar!

  • @jean-marcdecanter7719
    @jean-marcdecanter77198 ай бұрын

    Thank you Oscar ! Deep in the lows but high on sharing tips ! 😀

  • @Cult_of_the_Mantis
    @Cult_of_the_Mantis8 ай бұрын

    This is fantastic, used it in two tracks already and I've it's going to take me a while to get bored of slinging bass about :D cheers mate

  • @Drinkyoghurt
    @Drinkyoghurt8 ай бұрын

    The best hardware synth for Bass I can recommend is the Korg Volca Bass. You can pick them up used between €70-€100 and it has 3 analog oscillators and midi-in. By itself it sounds a bit weak, but add some drive/delay/reverb in Ableton or with Pedals and it absolutely slaps.

  • @msgsaltsweet
    @msgsaltsweet7 ай бұрын

    This is the golden tutorial. Thank you. 🧠

  • @Reallifetimbo
    @Reallifetimbo7 ай бұрын

    So good!

  • @djkrptdnb
    @djkrptdnb8 ай бұрын

    Great tip!

  • @qr9180
    @qr91808 ай бұрын

    I've unsuscribed to every others youtube producers , ur the best i dont need anyone else 😁

  • @vlisak1
    @vlisak18 ай бұрын

    Whaaaat? You change my mind ! Thnx!

  • @philfiebz
    @philfiebz8 ай бұрын

    Really cool that you made my recommendation into a video :D. I didn’t get it at all that the bassline in this track has no low end, but after I watched your video, it seems so clear. You showed us a monster technique. Thank you. If you can’t get enough of basslines, I got you: “Thomas Schumacher & Victor Ruiz - Intuit”

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah i made a big list of them and will do a few of them as track analysis on patreon as well 😁🫶🏻 really appreciate your input!

  • @philfiebz

    @philfiebz

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@OscarUnderdogI am happy that I could inspire you. Really curious which tracks you will analyze on Patreon. I am looking forward to it.

  • @ir8123
    @ir81238 ай бұрын

    Those pair of Adam's are sick

  • @pltndbnn
    @pltndbnn8 ай бұрын

    Woof 🐶 Please make a bigger video on kick n bass relations and frequencies 🙏🏻

  • 8 ай бұрын

    My speakers aren't the biggest so I put my headphones on to listen - wow, that's a deep sound you can hear and feel (if your speakers are big enough) - Thanks for explaning this 🙂

  • @samfitzgerald7507
    @samfitzgerald75078 ай бұрын

    Oscar with the absolute heat 🔥🔥🔥

  • @mlprod6202
    @mlprod62028 ай бұрын

    Yes i want to know !

  • @zerotamtam5072
    @zerotamtam50728 ай бұрын

    BRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrwwwwhhhoooo sounds god, thank you. I'll try to make this sound with the Operator from Ableton.

  • @joshkeating7825
    @joshkeating78258 ай бұрын

    Thanks, man! Gotta bring that boooooomin bass!!!

  • @boarderx949
    @boarderx9498 ай бұрын

    Love this tutorial. Diggin the Sub 37. I had one too but ended up getting a Voyager EB. Still wondering if I need another 37🤓. Keep up the amazing videos!

  • @supafly424

    @supafly424

    8 ай бұрын

    a studio without a moog is no studio.

  • @aldomaresca9994
    @aldomaresca99948 ай бұрын

    i cant resist, when you dance, i have to dance too

  • @_greenleader
    @_greenleader8 ай бұрын

    Ha your video fx are amazing

  • @ettoremariotti4280
    @ettoremariotti42808 ай бұрын

    Nice! I'd love a video where you approach the endless discussion of analog vs digital.

  • @wizards001

    @wizards001

    8 ай бұрын

    digital is a good copy of analog... it can almost do what analog does, but when you push it, it just breaks, analog on the other hand when you push it up into the areas people say not to do... becomes that extra thing that you hear in great tracks

  • @ettoremariotti4280

    @ettoremariotti4280

    8 ай бұрын

    Well I haven't push the digital, but I'm sure that good things can be carved out of digital too... I think the issue is not that it breaks, rather that it's user interface is pretty limited and the expressivity through the mouse is just not expressive... what do you think?@@wizards001

  • @blasalvice
    @blasalvice8 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah!! Now that's exactly my jam. I've been trying to achieve that for so, so long Oscar. I can't believe I didn't think of shifting the pitch..! Also, there is a slightly different kind of bass that I can't quite figure out how to make. I hear it often in tracks from Township Rebellion. It's a way larger bass, it takes a whole lotta space and usually happens at a drop. It's kinda similar to that "bwwaaahhh" from Inception :D If you ever explore that, please share your discoveries with us

  • @harshmellow1706

    @harshmellow1706

    8 ай бұрын

    When i want to make things sound "larger", i try some kind of double tracking, apply a slight pitch difference between them and make sure each track plays with a difference of around 12-30 miliseconds between each other. Some minor slow modulation on them also helps.

  • @blasalvice

    @blasalvice

    8 ай бұрын

    Interesting... could I hear an example of that somewhere?@@harshmellow1706

  • @peechannel8435
    @peechannel84357 ай бұрын

    this is very common in modern dubstep sound design!

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines8 ай бұрын

    Interesting...very interesting.

  • @lewishamel8105
    @lewishamel81058 ай бұрын

    Reminds me off west coast rap beats: using a 808 as low bass and moog/acid bassline in the lower mids for more melodic stuff

  • @kongregant8100
    @kongregant81005 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this! In case u have a drop where no kick only bass is running are you automating eq to bring back the low freqs on the bass?

  • @JoyfulWAVE
    @JoyfulWAVE8 ай бұрын

    Thx Oscar...👍👍👍 ❤☮☯❤☮☯❤☮☯❤

  • @lester3960
    @lester39608 ай бұрын

    You cut the low end at 120hz, is that generally where to cut the low end on a dominant bass line or is it dependent on the fundamental frequency? Or do you just play with it till it sounds right? :) Solid content as always. Love and thanks from Los Angeles!

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    8 ай бұрын

    Totally just felt that it was the sweet spot for this particular sound. Any higher and it sounded thin & weak, any lower and it felt like it would compete with the rumble!

  • @KimStennabbCaesar

    @KimStennabbCaesar

    8 ай бұрын

    The latter is the best approach. Listen, and adjust until it "works" the way you want it to.

  • @thidominado
    @thidominado8 ай бұрын

    Oscar Thee Great🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanx man

  • @daanseynaeve4157
    @daanseynaeve41577 ай бұрын

    1500th like, and i thought i'd just come back to say that i use this trick all the time now...

  • @Bittamin
    @Bittamin8 ай бұрын

    Klaus veen basslines is a huge need

  • @infindebula
    @infindebula8 ай бұрын

    Amazing. You make the deepest bass and it's not particularly deep at all. It's the growl of those really low oscillators with the fundamental filtered out. I might go for a slightly less steep filter, but I'm in the studio right now to try it out. I tend to spend a lot of time making very detailed bass for the dance floor, and it gets lost on smaller systems. This is the foundation of a better technique.

  • @emphii
    @emphii8 ай бұрын

    I’ve been wondering about the bass line on that track myself as it seems to contain both a deep kick with rumble plus the pitchdown bass without clashing into a mess. I guess another trick could be to tune the kick to an A so that the pitched bass melts in naturally and create this illusion of bottom end. What do you think? Cheers from Norway ✌🏻

  • @viogitz
    @viogitz8 ай бұрын

    🎉

  • @jamalyannicguzmansierra7996
    @jamalyannicguzmansierra79968 ай бұрын

    Great one 👍 but what i found really interesting is the groovy rumble underneath. Can you explain how you made it so deep & groovy?

  • @Italliving

    @Italliving

    8 ай бұрын

    he's got a video on the rumble part other tune do but same principle

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah I’d say check the techno rumble mastery video! ☺️

  • @jamalyannicguzmansierra7996

    @jamalyannicguzmansierra7996

    7 ай бұрын

    The rumble it self ist not the problem. I still don't figured out how i can apply that rhythm to the lowend which is slightly clompexer than just a dotted 8 delay. Maybe you can give me a tip to complete the puzzle 🧩😊

  • @johnpearce9023
    @johnpearce90238 ай бұрын

    I'm going deep, deep deep even deeper

  • @ShamimJahandideh
    @ShamimJahandideh8 ай бұрын

    This is a very cool trick. Very useful ❤ PS. i also asked "But Oscar I don't have a mogue synthesizer" but without a moustache 🧔‍♂😆

  • @mirceastaicu4131
    @mirceastaicu41318 ай бұрын

    So let me see if I got this right, we can actually exploit the missing fundamental effect by having one instrument, a low mid range bass with its first harmonics suppressed by an EQ, and a second instrument or kick drum, playing in the same key as the low mid range bass, and we will have this interplay between these two instruments that add up to different notes, one providing the low fundamental frequencies via kick or sub, and one the high frequencies and the tonality?

  • @EggZema_
    @EggZema_8 ай бұрын

    The Korg Monopoly vst makes also good warm basses

  • @CZ_--133
    @CZ_--1338 ай бұрын

    remember to use linear pahse when cutting that steep especially with bass

  • @alessandrog5261
    @alessandrog52618 ай бұрын

    I was wondering why cut completely the low end of the bass when the alternative is simply sidechaining it with the kick?

  • @karinegrandvoinet2038
    @karinegrandvoinet20388 ай бұрын

    moustache powa !

  • @giovannibertocci8944
    @giovannibertocci89448 ай бұрын

    Please analyse Angel Doom, its the track with the deepest bass I know

  • @illsmackudown
    @illsmackudown8 ай бұрын

    This is a real fun video, man! Did you know that?

  • @mazzky1093
    @mazzky10938 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the Mmmwwwwwwooooooooooowwwwwww!

  • @keanujaquita
    @keanujaquita8 ай бұрын

    I bet no one can recreate the bass of DJOKO - Advice Needed. Good luck

  • @d3vkid
    @d3vkid8 ай бұрын

    Not clear : Where does the 'big thick low end' comes from? Another track?

  • @OscarUnderdog

    @OscarUnderdog

    8 ай бұрын

    Yep! A rumble I created, check out my rumbles video for the technique.

  • @benlewis6453
    @benlewis6453Ай бұрын

    Sounds like th soundtrack to Dark...

  • @Italliving
    @Italliving8 ай бұрын

    A Brick-wall at 120Hz 👍

  • @wskeal86
    @wskeal868 ай бұрын

    It seems that deep bass of this track is just 2nd kick drum with low pass filter on it. So it doesn't play note, it just sub bass drum.

  • @Biyoung
    @Biyoung8 ай бұрын

    use a tarus pedal

  • @meneerjansen00
    @meneerjansen008 ай бұрын

    Ever heard of a low pass filter?

  • @mradamcshaw
    @mradamcshaw8 ай бұрын

    My wife doesn't like it when I go from the C to the A. 😉

  • @CStoph1979

    @CStoph1979

    8 ай бұрын

    She likes it in the A first? Dude, that's just fucking gross.

  • @lukasz4781
    @lukasz47812 ай бұрын

    What about Mariana Vst?