How Do You Light from Above? | 3 Ways to Rig Overhead

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In this episode of 4MFS, we’re lighting a women’s poker night scene with a little bit of intrigue. Seems simple? Not when you have a 360 degree Steadicam move and you have to light without any stands on the ground. For this setup, Valentina explores all the different ways you can rig overhead.
For our setting, we chose a soundstage to have the most lighting opportunities. Valentina knew that she needed a location with a grid and wooden beams overhead, which is why we didn’t choose to shoot on-location. It’s good to location scout and be prepared with the right grip essentials. We made sure to rent multiple c-clamps and cardellinis along with the cribbing to safely rig overhead as a result.
Because the scene has a underground mafia den look, Valentina thought that warm tungsten lighting would be the way to go. Along with warm lightbulbs in the lamps, we decided to use LS 60ds gelled with amber to create cones of light on the wall. Then, we rigged LS 300xs and LS 300dIIs above the set walls to give each of the characters their own backlight. But what about the main light? That would be accomplished by the Nova P300c, which would be hoisted up by a menace arm on a hi-roller combo stand. Make sure that you have plenty of sandbags and ratchet straps when you’re rigging menace arms. The Nova was accompanied by a Honeycrates Space Boxx to transform it into a soft lantern that provided a pleasant light for all the characters. And of course, what’s an underground mafia den without some smoke in the air? For that, we used a Master FX Mystic Hazer to give us some diffused atmosphere.
We shot with the ARRI Alexa with vintage Nikon lenses. Valentina wanted to use 1/2 Glimmer Glass to soften the image even more, and give the highlights just a bit more bloom. The Steadicam movement was a big factor in the overall mood of the scene. Steadicam operator Zachary Stanke taught us all the key terminology when it comes to communicating with other operators.
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0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Story/Concept
1:14 - Camera/Steadicam
3:23 - Production Design
4:05 - Lighting
6:04 - Menace Arm Rig
7:35 - Overhead Rigging
10:22 - Sidus Link Breakdown
12:34 - Final Result
13:10 - Outro
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  • @gordieborg
    @gordieborg3 жыл бұрын

    That rug, it really ties the room together...

  • @NeilASimmons

    @NeilASimmons

    3 жыл бұрын

    Were you listening to the dude’s story, Gordie? We’re talking about unchecked aggression here

  • @alitheprodigy_

    @alitheprodigy_

    3 жыл бұрын

    I understood that reference

  • @madhavpoudel4284

    @madhavpoudel4284

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shut Up Neil, You're out of your element.

  • @karmapolice3335

    @karmapolice3335

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah, well that's just like, your opinion, man.

  • @BasicFilmmaker
    @BasicFilmmaker3 жыл бұрын

    These are ALWAYS soooo good. Thank you!

  • @misfitz3236
    @misfitz32363 жыл бұрын

    The timing for this video is perfect. Literally have a scene that calls for a similar setup.

  • @DominusFeles
    @DominusFeles3 жыл бұрын

    Loved that the hair lights assisted the story!

  • @marktomphotography
    @marktomphotography3 жыл бұрын

    That rug really ties the room together 😎

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @JamesNobleMusic
    @JamesNobleMusic3 жыл бұрын

    14 minute film school. I love these videos so much 🔥🔥🔥

  • @mikemuponda1781
    @mikemuponda17813 жыл бұрын

    This lady knows her stuff, I'm literally just nodding the entire time 🤣

  • @DanielTuriman
    @DanielTuriman3 жыл бұрын

    I like the steadycam operator work explanation, and also tutorial.

  • @ahsankhan-akh7539
    @ahsankhan-akh75393 жыл бұрын

    Just loving and learning a lot! Thanks Aputure!

  • @ijyoyo
    @ijyoyo Жыл бұрын

    Every road takes me back to a cinematic video

  • @premnayer
    @premnayer3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Your video tutorials are always so helpful.

  • @HKS-Digital
    @HKS-Digital Жыл бұрын

    11:00 ,the actor to the left trying not to yawn and failing 😂

  • @KedarRai
    @KedarRai3 жыл бұрын

    Grand video. Thank you miss 💖 I am from Nepal 🇳🇵

  • @ChrisButel
    @ChrisButel2 жыл бұрын

    The "one more for safety" hat is amazing.

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true!

  • @MnMS1904
    @MnMS19047 ай бұрын

    That light #1 looked amazing!

  • @yahyamohammadali8014
    @yahyamohammadali80143 жыл бұрын

    love ur works

  • @treyxaviermusic
    @treyxaviermusic3 жыл бұрын

    damn I love these videos

  • @streetshots1589
    @streetshots15893 жыл бұрын

    Valentina Vee u ROCK!!

  • @jonnybigmuff
    @jonnybigmuff3 жыл бұрын

    I've learned a ton from you guys over the pandemic. Thank you! But i swear, y'all use Haze the way that Joanna Gaines uses Shiplap. It's everywhere , all the time. It makes everything look like a Music Video or an old soap opera trying to establish a dock. I keep waiting for Old Greg to boat into frame on his canoe-dolly.

  • @GamerPo2
    @GamerPo23 жыл бұрын

    Love your work! Gained a new sub. 👍

  • @SumitThakurFilms
    @SumitThakurFilms3 жыл бұрын

    I am learning lot from you related to light setup in film 🎬 Thank you for such informative video's

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you found it valuable!

  • @patrickantone1203
    @patrickantone1203 Жыл бұрын

    WOW! Nicely done but, all of these solutions and gear are extremely expensive.

  • @rajkumar-rp9rh
    @rajkumar-rp9rh3 жыл бұрын

    Hello there Your doing a great work ✌️✌️

  • @orelbitan
    @orelbitan3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙂

  • @abinav4869
    @abinav48693 жыл бұрын

    Awesome 😎👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Ajay4toes
    @Ajay4toes3 жыл бұрын

    Nice job 👍❤️

  • @DaniDo
    @DaniDo3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing lighting breakdown as always! Just got disappointed because I got spoilered at the beginning who the villain is gonna be😂

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @dougfranckwolf
    @dougfranckwolf3 жыл бұрын

    For anyone that can chime in, I'd like some opinions. So the camera, lenses and crew are all top notch and professional, but I would never think this is from a film. The end result looks great but completely video-ish. I have seen stuff that looks like its from a film shot on much cheaper gear. I am trying to learn myself what the difference is so any insight would be great.

  • @user-bm3rc3os6d

    @user-bm3rc3os6d

    3 жыл бұрын

    To me it looks like they overdid the lighting and made it look waaayy too harsh. I’m sure this didn’t help in the coloring process either. Now I could be completely wrong since you know, I’m just a dude on the internet but that’s my 2 cents

  • @otoshithekid2957

    @otoshithekid2957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh a lot of reasons I'd say. First of all, it's not shot on film, and they didn't try to make it look like film (grainy, flatter, tinted). It looks like a digital high quality image as most videos do. But that's not enough to make it video-ish. Second, maybe the acting was a bit too much? I don't know much about that, so I can't say. Maybe they overdid the light, but when I think back to a scene like Ocean's Eleven in the casino it looks very similar to this. Now that I think of it, the lights don't seem match the context she gave us for the scene. It looks fun and colorful and enjoyable, but its supposed to be suspenseful as a traitor is revealed. I didn't get that vibe from it. But the technique is still valid, I needed to light a 360 much like this one once and was fucking lost. Seeing this would've helped back then.

  • @jalenspencerfilm

    @jalenspencerfilm

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the result is the biggest take away you should get from this video. For me atleast, I realize this is a teaching channel so things are gonna be a bit over the top for teaching purposes. It's the principles and techniques that they lay out for you to practice yourself and see what works best for you.

  • @MrJayColes

    @MrJayColes

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me; The key light is way too hard and the haze is overdone. The lack of eye lights is a quick has to make a scene like this look cheap. Overall, the lighting isn’t very refined, but finesse isn’t the point of these videos, it isn’t 4 day film school after all. Lighting these sorts of scenes is a pain in the ass and the more you move the camera the more your lighting suffers. This is because every time you show more of the set you’re eliminating places to put lights/grip gear. In this example the lighting suffers when it should be it’s best, a close up. I did a workshop with a senior DP where we did a similar scene, it became choreography, heaps of electrics moving around the space adding bounce cards and pulling them away just before they came into shot. As well as dimming different lights up and down depending on where the camera was facing. Also as far as colour palettes go, the whole scene is so warm, which is a little cheap looking for me.

  • @MoeGunz

    @MoeGunz

    3 жыл бұрын

    To me it’s the sharpness being high, harsh key, and it’s not graded like a film. The techniques are all valid though.

  • @bosslevelzero9541
    @bosslevelzero95413 жыл бұрын

    Valentina Vee, you are very talented, have a great personality, and quite frankly, are extremely gorgeous. Working with you must be the best day ever.

  • @JaninaJolie
    @JaninaJolie3 жыл бұрын

    That steadicam rig looks heavy as hell!! I can barely hold up my Ronin S for more than 2 minutes at a time.

  • @user-bm3rc3os6d

    @user-bm3rc3os6d

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah that’s why it’s rigged up to his up waist/upper body and balanced properly

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @irmansadvatti766
    @irmansadvatti7663 жыл бұрын

    Valentina you are changing.

  • @jatingibs
    @jatingibs3 жыл бұрын

    Which Focal Length you were using for this shot?

  • @ricardodorame
    @ricardodorame3 жыл бұрын

    Sweet vid! Where’s my boy Kevin tho?

  • @taylorrowson3961
    @taylorrowson39613 жыл бұрын

    What are those little mirrors called? Where can I get some?

  • @drknsss17
    @drknsss173 жыл бұрын

    Do you have to empty the lighting truck in every scene?

  • @SethNardoFilms
    @SethNardoFilms6 ай бұрын

    If I don’t get to be a part of something like this by the time I’m 28 I’m going to be disappointed in myself. Time to keep working as hard as I can!

  • @amthemusic7632
    @amthemusic76323 жыл бұрын

    Just curious... What was the whole shoot time for this video?

  • @WhySteve
    @WhySteve3 жыл бұрын

    "Stay tuned to the end for a chance to win a prize!" Was the prize a free ticket to the Bob Honeycrates Puppet Show? Worth it.

  • @marcdevinci893
    @marcdevinci8933 жыл бұрын

    Those CRLS reflectors are awesome! Never heard of them, where can we buy?

  • @rockazar5436

    @rockazar5436

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s now distributed by Matthews, so most places that carry them I imagine. crls.msegrip.com For example, www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Crls%20&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

  • @marcdevinci893

    @marcdevinci893

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rockazar5436 These are bags only and a cleaning kit not the actual reflectors but by the looks of it these aren't cheap!

  • @rockazar5436

    @rockazar5436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marcdevinci893 whoops! Sorry about that. I just searched and didn’t look carefully. Film tools carries them. www.filmtools.com/instantsearchplus/result/?q=crls The big kits can be spendy, for sure. Especially spendy if you are looking to experiment first. I have considered renting a big kit to play with when I have the time, assuming I can find a house that carries them. Check out the price for an old-school Matthews mirror and you will have similar sticker shock. Lenses aren’t the only place for expensive cinema glass. But maybe one of the smaller kits? All of our budgets are different. We should probably start a campaign with Matthews for a student/content producer kit. Or maybe it’s yet another bit of kit for the someday/rental list. These have been around for several years with different manufacturers and distributors but I’ve only recently seen the smaller mirrors available. Here is a nice tutorial Dedolight made with them last year. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWxrt9yEYLOZqqw.html

  • @rockazar5436

    @rockazar5436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marcdevinci893 search KZread under CRLS for more ideas. It is really amazing stuff and expands the lighting palette.

  • @rockazar5436

    @rockazar5436

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dedo makes a similar product with a similar name. Sorry for the confusion, but their video is still good.

  • @DavidSiciliano
    @DavidSiciliano2 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find that spaceboxx ??

  • @user-nu8bf3bf9m
    @user-nu8bf3bf9m3 жыл бұрын

    What color gel were they using on this set? Could somebody tell me which color gel pack is good enough for 300d mkii? My color gel melted when I used it with 300d mkii with 2x fresnel. If theres any recommendation please let me know.....!

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you want to use gels with your 300d II, we recommend getting a heat shield gel to go along with it.

  • @devenmehta4311
    @devenmehta43113 жыл бұрын

    why you used specific diffusion box( the crunchy grid) here, Can we use an Aputure Lantern Light Modifier (Bowens Mount) for 360 degree lighting instead of the hanging box ? If no kindly specify the reason.

  • @valentinavee

    @valentinavee

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes you can! That would be a great way to light a scene like this.

  • @devenmehta4311

    @devenmehta4311

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@valentinavee Thanks

  • @oscarmaoricio1365
    @oscarmaoricio13653 жыл бұрын

    ❤ pico de gallo ❤

  • @cyberbeatforethiopian7074
    @cyberbeatforethiopian70743 жыл бұрын

    i will use lantern on middle top

  • @shrinivasgaikwad6260
    @shrinivasgaikwad62603 жыл бұрын

    There should be a pdf out option for drawings in sidus link...

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea!

  • @lorlooney1520
    @lorlooney15203 жыл бұрын

    I think the edit in the final result would've looked nice if the cut was as the green was being thrown...I'm assuming the intention was to reveal both players, but I think hiding the villian would've added suspense. Thanks for the lighting tips as always

  • @gullbuttqasim
    @gullbuttqasim3 жыл бұрын

    Veeeeeeeee....!!!!

  • @justexist841
    @justexist8413 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why not just use an aperture lantern over head in that case then?

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    3 жыл бұрын

    We wanted to use a stronger RGB light and had the lighting accessories available for it

  • @justexist841

    @justexist841

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aputurelighting ahhh gotcha gotcha! I'm still learning so I question as much as possible when it comes down to lighting. So I can be among the greats so thanks for the response

  • @user-zv7lm8uk7h
    @user-zv7lm8uk7h Жыл бұрын

    3:00 "spice levels?" what a fool...

  • @damanbaidwan4550
    @damanbaidwan45503 жыл бұрын

    😁😁

  • @facuuaf
    @facuuaf Жыл бұрын

    I liked the light rigs but damn I've never seen an Alexa Mini's footage looking like a Canon 60D. Please grade your footage properly!

  • @mochouinard
    @mochouinard3 жыл бұрын

    B7c need to get rid of the battery and make the light wrap around it and not just on the top... It just doesn't sell it for me.

  • @DastanZhumagulov

    @DastanZhumagulov

    3 жыл бұрын

    Battery is still welcome in certain scenarios when using older practicals that look beautiful but can function no more. Also cabling is not always optional and could create additional hassle of trying to hide outlets and cords and whatnot. Probably best to have both options available!

  • @mochouinard

    @mochouinard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DastanZhumagulov I agree, but I prefer better light dispersion than having a battery. It like the lightning effect with the Aputure stuff.... it HORRIBLE ! You can recognize it when you see it, and that not how lightning look like !

  • @kevinbillington9773
    @kevinbillington97738 ай бұрын

    I love the fact people believed that once you were being filmed masks could be removed and the virus would courteously not infect the actors. What fools we were 😂😂

  • @ClaudeRobTV
    @ClaudeRobTV3 жыл бұрын

    Tapatio is considered spicy ??? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @oscarmaoricio1365

    @oscarmaoricio1365

    3 жыл бұрын

    ¡no pica nada! jaja.

  • @bluefilmsltd
    @bluefilmsltd2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't a menace just a C stand????

  • @aputurelighting

    @aputurelighting

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's much stronger and steadier, but needs to be built carefully. When rigging overhead light, we strongly advise using a menace arm (with proper training and/or supervision)!

  • @bluefilmsltd

    @bluefilmsltd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aputurelighting I see. Good to know, thank you for the response.

  • @statebankofindia
    @statebankofindia3 жыл бұрын

    04:54 spoiler alert!

  • @arnold2603
    @arnold26033 жыл бұрын

    First

  • @TheVexHead
    @TheVexHead3 жыл бұрын

    Stop using haze, for real. Haze screwed up the shot for sure; now it's muddy, flat, and all the work done with the lights seems to be a lot less worth

  • @valentinavee

    @valentinavee

    3 жыл бұрын

    We haven’t used haze in the last 8 episodes and no haze in the next 4 after this. Also - I wanted the haze to make the lights look diffused and for the den to look musty/dusty. It’s supposed to be a dingy basement.

  • @justpeter5690

    @justpeter5690

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@valentinavee omg the class that this response has is sending me. a true diplomatic kween. Love the videos Valentina!!

  • @gregv2821
    @gregv282123 күн бұрын

    I'll be the Debbie Downer and say this looks way too artificial... it's a cartoon-like version of what you think a "man cave" or "woman cave" might look like. I would tone down the overhead, lose the harsh red cast and generally ease off the overproduced looking elements. Just because you have all of these expensive tools and toys doesn't mean you have to use all of them.

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