how do we know the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x (the definition & implicit differentiation)

We will show that the derivative of ln(x), namely the natural logarithmic function, is 1/x. We will use the definition of the derivative and also implicit differentiation.
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    @idomins6 жыл бұрын

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    @blackpenredpen

    6 жыл бұрын

    yup, that's right!

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    @ciherrera

    5 жыл бұрын

    Somewhat relevant xkcd: xkcd.com/849/

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    @Peter_1986

    4 жыл бұрын

    He has also used a purple pen a few times.

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    3 жыл бұрын

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    @in-ty8vb

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @wildramen
    @wildramen6 жыл бұрын

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    @blackpenredpen

    6 жыл бұрын

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    @tintinfan007

    Жыл бұрын

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    @ct---cp8li

    11 ай бұрын

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    @aaxel_dz

    7 ай бұрын

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    @climbeverest

    7 ай бұрын

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    @yoavshati6 жыл бұрын

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    @williamhutsch851

    5 жыл бұрын

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    @jacobious1537

    5 жыл бұрын

    Perfect

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    @thejiminator8816

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

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    @phatkin

    5 жыл бұрын

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    @future62

    5 жыл бұрын

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    @muhammedyaseen54384 жыл бұрын

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    @banana6108

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @hopelessdigger

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @user-pd4wz1oo3x

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @lucasscoz6090

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @prasannashrestha3519

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @soyalguien335yt4
    @soyalguien335yt4 Жыл бұрын

    10:43 I really love the satisfaction I get when my mind snaps and know how the demostration continues before the video. Great video!

  • @vvvss-cx1vd

    @vvvss-cx1vd

    Жыл бұрын

    Clicked at around 7:50 for me, so satisfying

  • @BradleyG01

    @BradleyG01

    Жыл бұрын

    was about to cmment that same thing! It's such a great feeling

  • @jimbeasley5319
    @jimbeasley53194 жыл бұрын

    How do we know ln(x) is a logarithm? I once had a professor “define” ln(x) as a function whose derivative is 1/x. He then proceeded to show the ln(x) is indeed a logarithm, and it has the base e. I’d like to see this again. It was very inspiring, but I have forgotten how it was done.

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you asking how to prove the properties based on that definition? If so, I have a video here kzread.info/dash/bejne/Znhhr5eqcsLSZs4.html

  • @tckgkljgfl7958

    @tckgkljgfl7958

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @lewisbotterill4948

    @lewisbotterill4948

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was taught that ln(x) is by definition, log base e of x. The term ln itself means the natural logarithm.

  • @cellcomsanggau424

    @cellcomsanggau424

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lewisbotterill4948 look

  • @lewisbotterill4948

    @lewisbotterill4948

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cellcomsanggau424 ?

  • @whozz
    @whozz6 жыл бұрын

    Another proof using parametric equation: x = e^t y = t dx/dt = e^t dy/dt = 1 (dy/dt)/(dx/dt) = dy/dx = 1/e^t = 1/x

  • @rajendramisir3530

    @rajendramisir3530

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wonder proof buddy! Three different proofs: Limits, implicit differentiation and parametric equations.

  • @rajendramisir3530

    @rajendramisir3530

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful proof buddy! Three different proofs: Using parametric equations, limits and implicit differentiation.

  • @DaveJ6515

    @DaveJ6515

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just brilliant. Congratulations, I’m going to teach this one tomorrow

  • @pradipgiri8321

    @pradipgiri8321

    4 жыл бұрын

    nicely done

  • @RamsLiff

    @RamsLiff

    3 жыл бұрын

    For any log , 1/x .ln a, a its the base of the log , If a = e, the derivative is 1/x I did a general proof

  • @itamarbentwich3814
    @itamarbentwich38146 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed your last few videos, and I am glad you're back to uploading more videos containing your explanations

  • @magellan500
    @magellan500 Жыл бұрын

    Just watched it again as there were a few things I wasn’t sure of. I really liked it when he explained one trick to use was because the natural log is a continuous function, and the limit of a continuous function is a continuous function of the limit, you can move the limit inside the parentheses to simplify things. Cool stuff.

  • @magellan500
    @magellan500 Жыл бұрын

    I have always wanted a more detailed explanation of this result. This is the best I’ve seen on the subject. Considering things like Euler’s identity and the quantum wave equation and other uses of the exponential function, it seems to me it’s the most useful of all the special functions.

  • @vegasuser999
    @vegasuser9995 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful videos. It is a long time ago that I studied complex variables, differential and integral calculus and algebra. So it is great fun watching this guy do with ease what most of us struggled with when learning the basic elements of these important mathematical techniques. I can generally follow him right to the end once I see where he headed. The mathematical manipulations seem to be firmly rooted in my brain. The algorithms he applies for problem solving are much less so.

  • @rajendramisir3530
    @rajendramisir35305 жыл бұрын

    Elegant proofs for the derivative of ln(x). I like the intelligent and creative ways you used to develop and establish your proofs. Thanks.

  • @marcushendriksen8415
    @marcushendriksen84155 жыл бұрын

    Great video man! I feel like you've made me so much smarter; this time I was actually able to see ahead a little bit, that the argument of ln would end up being e^1/x (this was around when you brought the derivative into the u world)

  • @iansheridan5509
    @iansheridan55094 жыл бұрын

    You are my new favorite high school math teacher. In my AP calculus class, we were never taught how to derive this. Only taught to memorize that d/dx ln(x) = 1/x

  • @elyseepasteur6163
    @elyseepasteur61635 жыл бұрын

    Well done guy! You sort it out! Keep it up! Go always deep n in every detail to enlightening. Again you've done it!

  • @ezvac1421
    @ezvac14212 жыл бұрын

    Another way : exp(ln(x)) = x Derivative of both sides : ln(x)' * exp(ln(x)) = 1 Replace exp(ln(x)) by x and divide the whole equation by it : ln(x)' = 1/x

  • @MiroslavOstapenko

    @MiroslavOstapenko

    10 ай бұрын

    wow!

  • @TheLifeLaVita

    @TheLifeLaVita

    8 ай бұрын

    it's literally in the video

  • @FF-pv7ht
    @FF-pv7ht6 жыл бұрын

    Its a shame we dont get teached this stuff in school but are just supposed to remember f'(x)=1/x of F(x)=ln(x)

  • @ChaosPod

    @ChaosPod

    6 жыл бұрын

    I remember my school teaching us a variation of the 2nd method, namely y = ln x => e^y = x Therefore dx/dy = e^y dy/dx = 1/(dx/dy) = 1/e^y = 1/x

  • @Witiok1992

    @Witiok1992

    6 жыл бұрын

    FF same situation(((

  • @ZZaarraakkii

    @ZZaarraakkii

    5 жыл бұрын

    Of f(x)=ln(x). Capital f often implies integration. Especially because integrated function is defined by it F'(x)=f(x) then you are ok.

  • @sjoerdo6988

    @sjoerdo6988

    5 жыл бұрын

    they told us: e^ln(x)=x diferentiating gives: e^ln(x)*d/dx(ln(x))=1 d/dx(ln(x))=1/e^ln(x)=1/x

  • @znhait

    @znhait

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is just the application of the first principle definition of the derivative. You know how to do limits and should be well versed in algebra manipulation. It's not a big leap to do this problem. This is the sort of exercise a student should do away from school.

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    @flyin59524 жыл бұрын

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    @SaadmanSaif Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god you are incredible! I learned a thing or two because of you! Loved it ❤️

  • @rodericksibelius8472
    @rodericksibelius84725 жыл бұрын

    So clear explanation, Greatest Math Teacher in the WORLD, Thank You Sir!.

  • @Velas99
    @Velas992 ай бұрын

    Just found your channel. Thanks for creating this content and keep up the good work.

  • @thomaskember4628
    @thomaskember46284 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of when I was a COBOL programmer, we would have discussions about whether you could have positive zero and negative zero. This was because the sign of a number was contained in the units digit. So, when comparing numbers it was important to take this into account. But I would say to my colleagues that zero was neither positive nor negative, it was separate from other numbers.

  • @gebcrafter
    @gebcrafter4 жыл бұрын

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    @valiok9880

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gavin Burns lmaooo

  • @marsbrook1
    @marsbrook13 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely beautiful. Great explanations! Thank you.

  • @AkiyamaKatsuko
    @AkiyamaKatsuko Жыл бұрын

    I've always been told that the derivative rule for f'(x) of ln(x) has always been 1/x but I've never understood how that was proven. Thank you for the explanation.

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    10 ай бұрын

    There's usually one of these proofs for it somewhere in the textbook. Since the teacher probably sees proving them as reinventing the wheel, and not necessary to understand the subject, they probably just skip showing why these derivative rules work.

  • @SudarshanBaurai
    @SudarshanBaurai Жыл бұрын

    Dear friend, you are not only genius but you a great guru (teacher). My regards - Sudarshan🙏

  • @ZehcnasEsined
    @ZehcnasEsined5 жыл бұрын

    It's so beautiful ♥ Great explanation!

  • @elreturner1227
    @elreturner12279 күн бұрын

    This was so intertwining I was guessing what to do and when he showed what to do it made sense feels amazing

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter644 жыл бұрын

    dayuumm now that's impressive, finding the derivative of ln(x) using the standard definition of a derivative

  • @taranmellacheruvu2504
    @taranmellacheruvu25042 жыл бұрын

    You can also use the formula for inverse derivatives. This is how I did it: Let g(x) = the inverse of f(x) g’(x) = 1/(f’(g(x)) Let f(x) = e^x Therefore f’(x) = e^x & g(x) = lnx g’(x) = 1/(e^lnx) g’(x) = 1/x Therefore the derivative of lnx is 1/x. To prove the formula I used, you can let g(x) = inverse of f(x) So, x = f(g(x)) Differentiating both sides, you get: 1 = f’(g(x))*g’(x) g’(x) = 1/(f’(g(x))

  • @xnqmap

    @xnqmap

    Жыл бұрын

    It basically what he does from 13:00, without explicitly using the formula for the derivative of a reciprocal function.

  • @alexiapineda6519
    @alexiapineda65195 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, you are the best explaining ♥️

  • @xoppa09
    @xoppa09 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if there is a numerical analysis class he teaches. This guy is a good teacher.

  • @elreturner1227
    @elreturner12279 күн бұрын

    The second lim going into the continues function was so eye opening and satisfying

  • @hopp2184
    @hopp21846 жыл бұрын

    blackpenredpen could you solve the non elementary integral of x^x. You did the (easier) derivative so please do the difficult integral or let Payem do it

  • @angelmendez-rivera351

    @angelmendez-rivera351

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ahsoka Tano How is he suppose to solve it if it is non-elementary? Do you understand what solving an integral is? And do you understand what non-elementary is?

  • @zachcate7102

    @zachcate7102

    5 жыл бұрын

    Angel Mendez-Rivera ima be real with you that made no sense

  • @nicememe8608

    @nicememe8608

    4 жыл бұрын

    Zach Cate if an integral is non-elementary, by definition, that means you cannot solve it. It will be defined by a special function. For example, the fresnel integral

  • @hassanakhtar7874

    @hassanakhtar7874

    4 жыл бұрын

    Okay for anyone that is confused this is a matter of pedanticism. "Solving an integral" technically refers to definite integrals. The original comment probably just wants the indefinite integral and is using the word "solve" to mean "to do" as in ordinary english. Again, all a matter of mathematical vs normal language.

  • @jit_rs
    @jit_rs3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this awesome video! Also, I could make the proof shorter by using equivalence "ln(1 + h/x) ~ h/x" on the 2nd step in your proof

  • @dudono1744

    @dudono1744

    2 жыл бұрын

    this approximation is based on derivative of ln(x)

  • @ramblingwhitedog7346
    @ramblingwhitedog73466 ай бұрын

    Dang, when he finally pulled out the e term, I got super excited. Nice job!

  • @mokouf3
    @mokouf32 жыл бұрын

    I love u-sub when doing algebra and calculus. SO useful.

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    @prabhamishra10995 жыл бұрын

    YOU ARE PHENOMENON!!!!!

  • @mohammadpourheydarian5877
    @mohammadpourheydarian5877 Жыл бұрын

    Smart moves and thank you. To avoid confusion in approach 1 instead of twice using u I will use U and then w.

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    @user-bv8zr6do7d2 жыл бұрын

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    @AnthonyPerez-ls7sq5 жыл бұрын

    I love you, plain and simple.

  • @FurryCombatWombat
    @FurryCombatWombat3 жыл бұрын

    This mad lad really just used the limit definition. Can we get this guy a medal?

  • @ClaudioCP
    @ClaudioCP Жыл бұрын

    Very elegant description of this important derivative

  • @fiveoneecho
    @fiveoneecho5 жыл бұрын

    Such a great video on this!

  • @mathunt1130
    @mathunt1130 Жыл бұрын

    You can do this in two ways. You can use the integral definition of log(c) and use the fundamental theorem of calculus or you can note that log(x) is the inverse function of exp(x), and just use the expression for differentiating the inverse function.

  • @kawambwadaniel-kd3685
    @kawambwadaniel-kd3685 Жыл бұрын

    How easily he changes markers is amazing to watch

  • @aurelcoeur129
    @aurelcoeur1293 жыл бұрын

    Thanks i like you so much, maths is magic ♥️. I try to find this by focus on the definition of a function wich is derivating if this limite was not infinity and i encounter a lot of problème by not knowing this definition of e and also "the limit of a continuous function is the function of the limit. Thanks a lot ♥️ Sorry i dont speak english very well but i learned more and more each days

  • @MH2029
    @MH20295 жыл бұрын

    Hey , I recently started reading Thomas calculus and found that lnx was actually defined as definite integral of 1/t from 1 to x. So i think a proof is not needed stating the definition is enough. Anyway hats off to the great content

  • @carultch

    @carultch

    10 ай бұрын

    How it is defined, really depends on who you ask. Historically, natural log was discovered before the number e, and it was defined as this integral. But in modern times, we usually define it as the inverse of e^x, and define e^x as the special case of the exponential where it is its own derivative. The modern definition is much more useful, to learn what logs are for the first time. These two definitions are internally consistent, but you need to start with one to prove the other.

  • @plantita3183
    @plantita31832 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!!! All other videos I found only explained how you used the derivative not actually showing proof on why it’s 1/x

  • @merveilmeok2416
    @merveilmeok24164 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful work!

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    @papajack22056 жыл бұрын

    Finally, since the basketball secret has been revealed I can find some sleep!

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Marian P. Gajda in fact, in was in that previous video as well, just allllll the way at the end.

  • @derekanderson1214

    @derekanderson1214

    6 жыл бұрын

    I live close to where you recorded that basketball video! I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Derek Anderson Are you serious??? How did u even recognize that place!!!

  • @aashsyed1277

    @aashsyed1277

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackpenredpen COINCIDENCE?

  • @aashsyed1277

    @aashsyed1277

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blackpenredpen it is possible, but very unlikely

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore77854 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, as usual!

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    @chilliblogs93506 жыл бұрын

    I watch your videos for inspiration and help as I just started year 7

  • @atikhasan3027
    @atikhasan30273 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanation

  • @hypereric5526
    @hypereric55262 жыл бұрын

    I love these type of people on KZread

  • @andreemery4964
    @andreemery49645 жыл бұрын

    I think it could have been made a bit more clear at 3:29 that the 1/h exponent is supposed to be evaluated for (1+h/x) before the log is taken. (But I still got the point.)

  • @dalenassar9152
    @dalenassar91524 жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to say, that for some reason, LOGb(X)=ln(X)/ln(b) has always been my favorite relationship in "Logarithmic Functions" and THANKS for the bonus at the end!!!

  • @jamesfortune243

    @jamesfortune243

    2 жыл бұрын

    X = b ^ logb(x), then take logd of both sides and bring the exponent down. Then solve for logb(x).

  • @Epic-fb8pe
    @Epic-fb8pe3 жыл бұрын

    thanks brother for clear information ❤🤗🤗😎😎

  • @firdaussalleh1407
    @firdaussalleh14072 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro. Awesomeness

  • @digitalfroot
    @digitalfroot Жыл бұрын

    you’re so awesome!!

  • @MaxPicAxe
    @MaxPicAxe2 жыл бұрын

    That was pretty cool!

  • @jakehu8733
    @jakehu87336 ай бұрын

    I have a fourth proof: If we differentiate e^ln x, instead of resulting in x, we use the chen lu, where u = ln(x). That results in e^(ln x) * du/dx. However, if we use the power rule, it results in 1. Therefore, x * du/dx = 1. We solve for du/dx = 1/x.

  • @douglasmagowan2709
    @douglasmagowan2709 Жыл бұрын

    Back when I learned this we defined the logarithm function in terms of the integral 1/x dx, then proved that this function had the properties expected of a logarithm.

  • @luisvasquez-ib1dk

    @luisvasquez-ib1dk

    Жыл бұрын

    CIERTO BRO YO TAMBIEN LO APRENDI AL REVES,QUE EL LOGARITMO SE DEFINE JUSTO POR LA INTEGRAL DE 1/X

  • @vinuthomas2814
    @vinuthomas28143 жыл бұрын

    That was beautiful!

  • @shellamaysupetran189
    @shellamaysupetran1893 жыл бұрын

    Thank You so much sir!😇

  • @filip-kochan
    @filip-kochan5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing job man

  • @kabeerkumar4334
    @kabeerkumar43344 жыл бұрын

    This was so cool!

  • @yamomzameanskeet
    @yamomzameanskeet4 жыл бұрын

    The limit definition of the derivative of ln(x) is a nice one!

  • @TheOriginalJohnDoe
    @TheOriginalJohnDoe Жыл бұрын

    12:05 when I saw this, I was like... OMG I just realized what the hell I've been watching for the past 12 minutes... I was more intrigued by what he was able to do in terms of modifying the formulae, but then noticed he brought it down to 1/x, I love this guy.

  • @BradleyG01
    @BradleyG01 Жыл бұрын

    The most impressive thing about these videos is not the math, it's his ability to write with 2 or 3 markers in the same hand while holding them all at the same time. And that his writing is still legible while he does it. I can barely read my own handwriting when i write with just 1 pencil

  • @CliffSedge-nu5fv

    @CliffSedge-nu5fv

    7 ай бұрын

    And hold a microphone in the other hand. Might as well start juggling at that point.

  • @use-zakar
    @use-zakar Жыл бұрын

    This is so awesome.

  • @philippenachtergal6077
    @philippenachtergal6077 Жыл бұрын

    6:30 Hum. Ah. But when we say limit(h->0) that implies in any direction right ? As we work with real numbers we can have h 0 and both directional limits (or whatever the proper name for that is) must give the same result for the derivative to exist. But when we substitute for h->infinity, we only check the side h>0, right ? So shouldn't we also substitute u=-1/t and verify that we have the same result ? Or else prove that the derivative must exists in which case only one side is enough to get the value.

  • @nobels3246
    @nobels3246 Жыл бұрын

    To differentiate ln(x) I use this trick: 1 = 1 1 = d/dx x 1 = d/dx [e^(ln(x))] 1 = e^(ln(x)) * d/dx(ln(x)) d/dx(ln(x)) = 1 / [e^(ln(x))] d/dx(ln(x)) = 1/x This also works for all inverse functions like arcsin(x), arcos(x) & arctan(x).

  • @alwysrite
    @alwysrite6 жыл бұрын

    so beautiful !

  • @rewardkhaled6359
    @rewardkhaled63594 ай бұрын

    youre my inspiration

  • @ukidding
    @ukidding4 жыл бұрын

    well done professor

  • @dhrubajyotisarma6268
    @dhrubajyotisarma62684 жыл бұрын

    I like all the math problem and solutions 👍👍

  • @MahendraKumar-dx4hx
    @MahendraKumar-dx4hx2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much sir.

  • @shyiramberebruno6563
    @shyiramberebruno65634 жыл бұрын

    Well done!

  • @Syntaxxed
    @Syntaxxed2 ай бұрын

    such a long proof but very well thought out. I was definitely doing a shorter proof for my test (luckily, not sure if I could survive writing this for my test.. lol). Dloga(x)=1/x*ln(a) D(log(e^x))=1/xlne=1/xloge(e)=1/x*1=1/x but of course mine is already making assumptions (that derivative of loga(x)=1/x*ln(a)) instead of figuring it out with definition of e. Great work, definitely I learned something.

  • @user-ox5ml5ee9v
    @user-ox5ml5ee9v4 жыл бұрын

    Love the second proof of lnx's derivative

  • @sanseng000
    @sanseng0006 жыл бұрын

    I like your channel, its content and overall disposition (subscribed long back). I would like to mentiom that a lot of times you seem to show some very simple or basic algebraic manupilation in great detail as if you are showing that to some beginner who is not very bright. I request you to be consistent in knowledge density (idk how to describe thos) throughout the vdo and spread your time evenly on the topics and ponder over stuff which really calls for it. In this vdo, time spent on definition of e with t to u is probably 6 times than necessary, my personal feeling. Lastly, as I like this channel, I complained. If I was indifferent, I wouldn't have cared.

  • @edmund3504
    @edmund35044 жыл бұрын

    it's always cool seeing derivations for things you learned without the reasoning behind them

  • @hankhaeberle5067
    @hankhaeberle5067 Жыл бұрын

    wow! thank's a lot for the explanation, now i know why it's 1/x :)

  • @aayushbaraily6795
    @aayushbaraily67954 жыл бұрын

    Awesome man

  • @doctorb9264
    @doctorb92643 жыл бұрын

    Nice piece of Mathematics.

  • @lucasmansson1055
    @lucasmansson1055 Жыл бұрын

    Proving this was actually a question on one of our calc exams

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple Жыл бұрын

    Which was proven first, the derivative of e^x or that of ln x?

  • @mdghufranalam7369
    @mdghufranalam73695 жыл бұрын

    Mst ...

  • @FocusLRHAP
    @FocusLRHAP28 күн бұрын

    16:43 Yeah! It even works for e: ln(e)=1 so you get back the 1/x :)

  • @DaveJ6515
    @DaveJ65154 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained as usual, only one thing: I ask my students to avoid “canceling ln with e”; I want them to say that log of a power with the same base is the exponent.

  • @stewartzayat7526

    @stewartzayat7526

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think that's just a linguistic thing. As long as your students know _why_ it works, I don't think it matters what they say

  • @DaveJ6515

    @DaveJ6515

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stewartzayat7526 Since that is the definition of a log, I prefer my students to repeat it as frequently as possible: it's the best way to capture it completely. It's part of my campaign against voodoo maths: you know, strange things like quantities that change their sign while flying over the equal sign and all that. An easy way to forget that there are equivalence principles behind that, and no flying stuff. Also: linguistics is a central part of our learning processes: our first impact with new stuff is via a language, so it makes lot of difference, imho.

  • @diegocabrales

    @diegocabrales

    Жыл бұрын

    Logarithm is the inverse function of exponentiation and viceversa, that's why log_a(a^x) = x and a^(log_a(x)) = x. I would prefer to say this rather than what you have written here (that includes the equivalent of what you have said for explaining that a^(log_a(x)) = x).

  • @DaveJ6515

    @DaveJ6515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@diegocabrales and of course you would be right, but my 36 years of experience teaching maths make me say that your students would benefit less from that explanation.

  • @mark_tilltill6664
    @mark_tilltill66644 жыл бұрын

    Very satisfying and pretty!!!

  • @bhavydugar6665
    @bhavydugar66652 жыл бұрын

    At the third step you could have broken the fraction into 1+h/x and then divided and multiplied the base h with x instead of using it is as power then you would have got 1/x lim h->0 ln(1+h/x) divided by h/x and then by using the limit you could’ve simply got 1/x

  • @Kaiwizz
    @Kaiwizz Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much.

  • @lychenus
    @lychenus Жыл бұрын

    i think to explain why you can shoot the limit into a continous function you would need into to analysis.

  • @sawyerandrobbie
    @sawyerandrobbie2 жыл бұрын

    This is beautiful

  • @Chris89892
    @Chris898924 ай бұрын

    A most elegant solution to d/dx Ln(x)...I didn't imagine it would take 3 substitutions.

  • @tarikabdelhadibenaouda
    @tarikabdelhadibenaouda2 жыл бұрын

    the first definition are amazing

  • @hatrisfan
    @hatrisfan2 жыл бұрын

    I literally love this channel holy shit

  • @tegarherlambang4860
    @tegarherlambang48604 жыл бұрын

    cool. thanks you, sir