How Do Retail & Institutional Traders Differ? | Secrets of the Institutional Trader | Part 1
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In the first part of our 4 part presentation from Trevor Neil, he discusses how do retail and institutional traders differ. He shares the hard-hitting truths about what he's learnt in his career, and how to overcome these hurdles.
Trevor tells us why it's important to start small and why our trading experience, including losses, is vital to learning and improving as a trader. He discusses prop traders and their aggressive trading tactics with large amounts of capital, and why retail shouldn't follow the same methods.
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@bob.weaver72
10 ай бұрын
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@martingiavarini
10 ай бұрын
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@bob.weaver72
10 ай бұрын
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@martingiavarini
10 ай бұрын
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@bob.weaver72
10 ай бұрын
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To my understanding this just proves how much we need an edge as investors because playing the market like everyone else just isn’t good enough. I've been quite unsure about investing in this current market and at the same time I feel it's the best time to get started on the market, what are your thoughts?
@hermanramos7092
Жыл бұрын
Since the crash, I've been in the red. I’m playing the long term game, so I'm not too worried but Jim Cramer mentioned there are still a lot of great opportunities, though stocks has been down a lot. I also heard news of a guy that made $250k from about $110k since the crash and I would really look to know how to go about this.
@martingiavarini
Жыл бұрын
There are actually a lot of ways to make high yields in a crisis, but such trades are best done under the supervision of Financial advisor.
@Oly_laura
Жыл бұрын
Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.
@hermanramos7092
Жыл бұрын
@@Oly_laura Impressive can you share more info?
@Oly_laura
Жыл бұрын
@@hermanramos7092 My advisor is ‘’Catherine Morrison Evans’’ she’s highly qualified and experienced in the financial market. She has extensive knowledge of portfolio diversity and is considered an expert in the field. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market
I wasn't financial free until my 40’s and I’m still in my 40’s, bought my third house already, earn on a monthly through passive income, and got 4 out of 5 goals, just hope it encourages someone's that it doesn’t matter if you don’t have any of them right now, you can start TODAY regardless your age INVEST and change your future! Investing in the financial market is a grand choice I made.
@Miaisabelle-yk6rd
3 ай бұрын
yeah investment is the key to sustaining your financial longevity but venturing into any legitimate Investment without a proper guidance of an expert can lead to a great loss too
@JephthaRamsey
3 ай бұрын
Hello, I’m 37 and I am not worth much yet , please help me out. Bought my first house last month and I can't seem to make any other smart investment.
@PioliAugusthus
3 ай бұрын
wanted to trade, but I got discouraged with the market price fluctuations
@PioliAugusthus
3 ай бұрын
Can you recommend a guide for me?
@adakkristinn
3 ай бұрын
Haven't you heard of Expert Chrissy Barymoer ?
Trade small to build your intuitive capabilities on the markets - it takes time with trading real money to build this. That's how I'd sum this wonderful session. Everyone should watch this, before they jump in on their first trade.
@hakshustletv
9 ай бұрын
Definitely😂Trading on a demo and trading live are two completely different things and trading for someone else and trading for yourself is generally very different, if you try to go big right away, you're most likely going to lose your money. Start small, get comfortable and then slowly size up as you become more profitable and your account grows.
7:40 you can either go to a public school or a state school to study. Start small, lose small, learn big, make big stay big, go bigger
@sportshighlights8708
3 жыл бұрын
So true it hurts.. I know we have all been there..
"People want to sit in your seat." THIS is life boiled down to its very essence.
This is basically what my mentor told me when i started trading and what i experience.
I have been doing Intraday Index trading from past 3 years and I stick to small position sizes. Although I don't make big money but I think being consistent while following proper risk management eventually would pay off in the long run. Trading in market definitely needs some good experience. It is not easy as many people believe it to be. I think for beginners it is always advisable to trade with experts. Join someone who does live trading session and trade with small quantities.
I appreciate this video because it rings true in so many areas. Definitely better than the "buy my course and you could be rich too" stuff. This guy is like you're probably not going to get rich, you might lose all of your money, you might have to wait through months of loses to get that big WIN, the institutions have much more money than you and it is replenished if lost, but hey good luck to you. "Learning in this business is to lose money" - he is not lying!
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
I do not do courses or sell anything for retail traders. I only work with institutions. I can assure you, that they do not care about your positions or stops. to imagine it is so is just making an excuse.
This advice is pure gold - thank you.
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
Thank you Tim
Really great insight and very relatable in these current times. Especially the understanding of what amount is really needed to be able to quit full time work and become sustainable during the good and the bad
@OptoThemes
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DanielRamBeats
Жыл бұрын
it's debatable.
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Amazing.. just amazing!! Congrats!!!! Cheers from Brazil.
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
That's why we need old people as young rookie trading crypto. They know the truth and we learn that in a painful way sometimes.
wow, what a clear explanation the best that I have heard!!!
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Videos like this are classic and comprehensive for one’s understanding…I do appreciate your works to the community! It’s being quite a year and couple of months now I’ve been trading and investing in market commodities, making huge gains and a loss at same time while learning under Mr. Ray Perkins mentorship platform. He’s the best I’ve worked with all through my trade journey. Thanks to him I earn on a weekly basis having him manage my account and portfolio!
Learning.
Come join our live Q&A with Trevor tomorrow, December 2nd, 1-2pm GMT. Sign up here: www.cmcmarkets.com/en-gb/opto/webinars/rrg
thankyou universe for prop firms
He speak the truth about trading. It happen to me
Like your video! What do you think about these: 1. FX Liquidity does not matter whether it is from closing a long or short position, it can be taken by MM/banker/any trader to open as a long or short position. Is this statement true or false? Please advise with detailed educational advice. 2. Because FX is a zero sum game, if the liquidity is worth USD$10.01m it cannot be taken one cent more or less it must be digested exactly with the same amount by the MM/banker/any trader. Is this statement true or false?
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
I am not registered to work with retail clients and cannot advise you. Your first question requires a detailed answer. Your second point is not correct. FX is not a zero-sum game. Much is settled in cash as people actually want the currency and deliver against it. Massive FX traders are big corporates who have expenses in one currency and income in another. Think VW for example. Futures are a zero-sum game, less commissions.
excellent sharing opto cmc
Prop firms can help overcome the capital problem if one is good enough to pass their testing.
@lars5727
Жыл бұрын
Its not
In other to keep making consistent profit in forex trading all depends on the capacity of the trader
Awesome
@OptoThemes
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gogi9285
3 жыл бұрын
@@OptoThemes it's my pleasure
My Notes: - Learning comes by losing money - Do not put your entire savings account into your trading account; Only put small amount in (~10%) and then [honestly] see how long you can make that last without blowing it up... -> Practice good capital management and only put 10-20% of your account into each position. - After that 10% is gone, take another 10% and learn new mistakes from that small amount. Meanwhile you still have 80% of your original balance in your savings account to use later after you've learned some things.
@petermuhoho3780
2 жыл бұрын
Risking 10-20% is a lot of risk exposure. For one to survive longer you should risk 1-2 % per position.
@renks05
2 жыл бұрын
@@petermuhoho3780 It is okey to risk 0.25%-2% (3) of your capital for Forex.
@recession-rq8fd
2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm not a trader. I have investments and I mostly just collect premiums. Just my preference I guess
@n_9455
Жыл бұрын
You’re advising people how to fail here… anyone new to trading shouldn’t be risking more than 1% of their account. 100 losses in a row it would take to get your account blown. It’s the learning stage it’s not about profit… 10% risk per trade will get a beginners account blown in no time. People are out here following this idea, no wonder it takes 3+ accounts before they finally find a profitable strategy 😂😂
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
93% of retail day traders lose their money therefore there are 93% of broke learned individuals
Sh!t!!!! I'm trading a $500 Forex account and just pre-ordered my Ferrari...
@amitjadhav6775
3 жыл бұрын
Chuyiya
@Ikigaitrading
3 жыл бұрын
Loll
@petermuhoho3780
2 жыл бұрын
😁😂😃
@kimoralee9581
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
Me too.
Whatwver u say is gold
"You can win $500, lose $100, win $300, lose $150" after which I'd be like EVERYTHING ON RED!!!
He is only right if you use leverage.
@bauch16
10 ай бұрын
This guy clearly doesn't know crypto im makin 50% every 3-5 days😂 gonna retired when i hit 50mil
Wowwwwww. Just wow
@OptoThemes
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
so my question is why retail trading scam is allowed by governments if everybody already knows they gonna loose all money?
@lars5727
Жыл бұрын
True, im still figuring out how to become profitable as a retail trader..
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
If people want to try to earn money by in essence "gambling" on an outcome they deserve to lose their money.
i think my capital is less than what people in this hall paid o get a ticket to attend this presentation
You dont need to lose fortune to make it also you dont need that much money , it's about what you have learn and what you know about trading , you can turn $1000 into $1000000 , his approach isnt cool for a regular retail trader who doesnt have a lot of money also he doesn't mention the important ot strategy, strategy is the center piece of a successful trading career, not how much you can begin with .
@jordan.belfort2161
2 жыл бұрын
Strategy is not the central point of a successful trading career... It's important but to develop a traders mindset is key... It's true about the capital... You don't need large amounts to make money... If you are an investor, then yes you need larger capital... But as retail traders you can double accounts in short time with good setups...
@andib2022
Жыл бұрын
load of bollocks
This dude is 100 percent completely wrong.. He is teaching people to be emotional and reactionary to the market.. When in reality you need a trade system that removes your emotions away.. Few understand this.. But those of us that do🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Remain skeptical.
weird camera movement 9:11
@tristan583
2 жыл бұрын
He must be thinking it's a movie 😂
@hellomiami4012
2 жыл бұрын
*Cameraman Scratches Arse
He keeps saying, “it’s a big boys game” I assume he is speaking in metaphor and doesn’t mean that only males of large size can trade but he never explains exactly what he is talking about.
@TrevorNeil
8 ай бұрын
Of course. Big Boy = institutional trader of any sex or weight. Sorry, I had to explain.
Always go with %2 maximum loss from a trade no matter with how much money you trade. You can be a trader in any point you want. It's not matter of money, it's a matter of time, keep learning and trading with what you know. There is no magical formula, knowledge and experience will get you there like in any other job.
@bukanergogo8897
Жыл бұрын
0.5% with 2 you make 10 losses in arrow you down 20%....
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
There is a "magical formula" which you are not told. Trade against the "retail" traders (those 93% WHO LOSE) and follow the trades of the institutional traders.
a bunch of words, no substance, feels like he is just saying the most basic things anyone can just find online googling though. but if this is part 1 and just intro then makes sense it is such entry level information
The main difference between paper, and retail, is that 1.Paper hedge their trades, the retail do not. The Paper use correlations, the retail do not. I hedge all my trades, and I only use correlations, DOM, and level 2. This how we survive and retail do not. I never use charts. The reason that the markets exist is to allow buyers and sellers to transact. As liquidity providers, we laugh at chart traders
Utter rubbish.....trading is all about percentages, so it doesn't matter the size of your account, so long as you have a profitable system and you don't draw from it, you will be rich one day.
@AmaanKhan-wo1ww
2 жыл бұрын
When you're trading with large capital , their is the problem of liquidity and you will stuck even with the best profitable system. So, position size matters.
@hellomiami4012
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmaanKhan-wo1ww trade a liquid market. Solved.
@NDWMONEY
2 жыл бұрын
I too trade with size, but I choose to trade very liquid stocks ( S&P100 ), so entry and exit is never a problem.
@fuethao8154
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Tapnd123
Жыл бұрын
Forex good for Asian countries.
I'll save you guys from watchin the 4 parts. Institutions have money to burn where as retail traders don't have that opportunity, they can lose $1 million and its nothing for them. A simple "oh well that didn't work". Develop a truly winning strategy that has positive expected edge and once you do implement that into real trades.
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
They have money to "burn" because we, the tax payers, bail them out when things go pear shaped.
Sorry Sir but "most likely" and "very certain " are not 100% - I'm most likely an idiot but I'm not ... how does this sound?
Hopefully nobody are so ignorant to quit job directly. I think normally people learn trading step by step and if it is working out well, only then meaby quit day job.
@jaydengiggs.rainititanatgm9389
2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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@deepakkhaire8436
2 жыл бұрын
You cannot learn trading while still working a job, people think it's a soft skill it ain't there's a ocean worth to learn you can't do shit part time it is the most demanding and rewarding career
F this math equation about “the little guy” lmao I’ll watch it just so I can find the gem…
All B.S....be smaRTER THAN THE MARKETS. Put every odd in your favor with an edge and you can make 200% easily. We don't move markets. We ride waves. When you have millions you can move the market. That's when you are targeted.
@theouts1der
2 жыл бұрын
yeah ok
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"pretend trading" actually does help. Just like how the military does simulations to prepare them for the real thing. So do demo accounts. It's just like a simulation, as long as you treat it as such. With that being said demo accounts can actually help tremendously, so I'm not sure why you said that. If you are a complete newbie I would highly recommend to at least demo trade for 6 months before using real money. The very first thing that's going to happen to you is you are going to lose money. You might as well figure out how everything works with a demo account first. Well, unless you have money to blow or something. Then go ahead.
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
What messes things up are one's emotions and how one reacts to stress.
Follow the institutional traders and their pump and dump strategies.
2:07 " get a flu " 🤔 We don't have flu anymore, anywhere. - Great Success, Borat 👍
listen to him.......he did use to be a broker haha
@omarsabry7646
Жыл бұрын
Good point
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
a broker who is now broke as he needs to conduct these type of speeches to now earn his daily crust.
Wtf was that lol
Who slapped him?
who slapped him in the face
Wow. So many words to say absolutely nothing.
@stevenhull5025
8 ай бұрын
a bit like my grandad
Trader=traitor
Irrelevant title
booomer
@illuminated2438
2 жыл бұрын
Poor people detected! 🤣
I’m tired of all these older people that are full of crap if you actually understand it you can flip $20 with an offshore broker I do it all day just don’t upload videos or sell anything cause I don’t need too hahahahah
@fuethao8154
Жыл бұрын
yeah stick to your garbage smc 🤣
This video was a waste of my precious time. "Institutional traders have a lot of money" Oh really? How did you find that out. Tell us about what information they have access to, What indicators they use , technical stuff. Feel sorry for people who went to this seminar.
Wow, whole new level of insight and thinking 😂😮🛡🗡vs 🪓🔧📊📉📈
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