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@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

R1a took the short route from Kazakh steppe to Pontic steppe and R1b took the long route , and in the end after 10000 years the two brothers meet again

@eltecnico9541

Жыл бұрын

And then in the European colonization in America they found their cousin Q3

@akramkarim3780

Жыл бұрын

@@eltecnico9541 yeah , native americans are far cousins of europeans

@elliottbrown1329

Жыл бұрын

@@akramkarim3780 We are all cousins.

@Sporkonafork1

Жыл бұрын

@@akramkarim3780 and here I am as all of them

@tutonguni529

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad that you admit it because you've just solved a problem that I've tried to solve for many yrs 😅

Im kurdish from Iraq and my family has R1b :)

@ryankellypa

Жыл бұрын

On Gedmatch I'm west Scottish 87 and 13 iran. I'm American family came from British isles.

@ertangaf

Жыл бұрын

Kurdish have G2 its a persian gaplo..

@serkankinden5150

Жыл бұрын

You may be Yürü-k, Tur-uk-men of Iraq originated from Turkmenstan. North Iraq was kurdish in history so your family may have converted to kurdish languages after lots of marriages.

@Based556

11 ай бұрын

There are plenty of blonde blue eyed kurdish children in the mountains, Kurds are r1b - Cimmerians

@ertangaf

11 ай бұрын

@@Based556it doesn't mean anything since they are mixed with Greeks and other peoples. the real haplogroup of the Kurds is G2

Great material and production quality. Well done.

It's a very interesting video I am Japanese and belong to haplogroup O1b2. Haplogroup O, which is common among us Asians, split into two lineages, O1 and O2, about 30,000 years ago. Among them, O1 was divided into O1a and O1b. The O1 people lived mainly from southern China to Southeast Asia, but it seems that the group of O1b people who moved north to the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese archipelago became O1b2.

@Jamrock151

2 ай бұрын

Caucasians descended from East Eurasians. Tianyuan man K2b is ancestral to European haplogroup R1a. All Caucasians are paternally east asians

@extraditori6604

Ай бұрын

​@@Jamrock151Do you understand what East Eurasian means? It's not just East Asians (typically Chinese or Japanese as you probably think). North East Asians, South East Asians, South Asians (Ancestral Indians), Austronesian are all from this lineage, which is originally from West Eurasian hub somewhere in the Iranian plateau after Out-of-Africa event in IUP. Paternal haplogroup of K2a is IJK, I nad J. are both West Eurasian. K is just more widespread and is paternal to many lineages, not only East Asians. At the end, if you go to much back, we all descend from African haplogroup A.

@sanjaysaran3051

4 күн бұрын

@@Jamrock151 nice joke 😂😂 next please

R1b has been European since at least the Mesolithic. Earliest samples with R1b are eastern hunter gatherers from Samara in Russia.

@Jamrock151

Ай бұрын

R1b is descended from Tianyuan man K2b China. R clade mutated from P which was derived in Southeast asia. Caucasian males are paternally mongoloid.

@dl3472

Ай бұрын

Lies

@verenatuna9010

26 күн бұрын

@@Jamrock151 Caucasian males are only partially from the mongoloid phenotype. Not the ones with haplogroups F, G, H, I, J.

@CHINESEWARAHA

7 күн бұрын

He said Truth ​@@dl3472

@sanjaysaran3051

4 күн бұрын

​@@Jamrock151😂😂😂😂 what a joke you know Caucasian and mongoloids are separeted DNA

Very detailed and informative compilation. Thanks

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your positive comments.

1:36 the common ancestor of R1a-M420 and R1b-M343 was an Ancient North Eurasian who lived near Lake Baikal in present-day Russia. Examination of the 24 000 year old remains of Mal'ta in the lower Angara River near Lake Baikal confirmed the Y-DNA Haplogroup R. 2:44 and it is thought that R1-M173, a direct common ancestor of R1a and R1b, formed somewhere north of the Kazakh steppes between 28,200=22,800 years ago. 8:32 The third group is the R1b-P297 branch, was formed around 13600 BCE, and TMRCA is 12,300 BCE. This branch spread and became the direct ancestor of the people with R1b who live in Europe and Central Asia today. 13:00 M269 is closely related to the spread of ancient Indo-European languages

@plopdoo339

8 ай бұрын

The ginger headed Chinese white people in the Tarim basin must be related to these ancestor groups surely?

@nurakass3455

3 ай бұрын

In modern Kazakh 80% are mongols they genocided all R haplogroups remaining are kyrgyz

It is insanely complicated yet very intuitive. In Vedic Sanskrit, the goddess of the river is called Danu which also means liquid. These rivers Danube, Don are pretty similar in names.

@anibeto7

Жыл бұрын

@@dab0331 The people who migrated out of Ukraine were not Aryans, they were Indo Europeans. In Sanskrit, Arya means a noble man. Aryans are specifically the eastern sub branch of the Indo-Europeans who came to India, then migrated westward to Mesopotamia, Arabia and northern Africa. The rulers of Mesopotamia worshiped Asur, the kings were also called Asurbanipal.. etc. There is a story in the Vedas where it states that the Devas fought with the Asuras and the Asuras fled westward. Even the Mittani empire is a Vedic empire. These people have light brown skin and black hair. In India, Indo-Europeans constitute the upper caste which is 20% of India's population though almost everybody now is a mixture of various ancestry. The same stories were taken by the other sub group of people towards the west i.e. Europe. This is the reason Dyus pita in Vedas is the same person as Zeus Pater for the Greeks and later became Ju-Piter during the Roman times. Pita-> Pitr->Pater->Father, Duar->Door,Mata->Mother, Vrata->Vater->Brother etc... The gods, the languages, the religion, culture were the same but later they deviated. These people were Pagans. Europe and the Middle East have now been converted into Abrahamic philosophies, India is the only place where that ancient culture is still intact through culture and religion. Hitler was wrong in many ways, Aryans are the eastern sub branch of the Indo Europeans, Christianity may have Indo-European elements but it is not the actual religion of Indo-Europeans. He thought mixed people have corrupted their heritage, but modern science shows R1a and R1b are patrilineal genes determining your sex and not your phenotype. I have R1a but my skin colour is brown. There are people in India who are R1a and are dark brown as well. Hitler also thought that the Aryans were a superior race and that is not correct, that is where racism starts. Asiatic eyes are not the result of R1a, R1a is a sex gene and not an autosomal gene. East Asians like Chinese, Mongolians, Japanese etc have different ancestry than R1a.

@anibeto7

Жыл бұрын

@@dab0331 Swastika is a religious symbol in India, what Hitler did with it is absolutely unacceptable. However the symbol was not exactly like the actual Swastika and was called Hakencrus.

@dab0331

Жыл бұрын

@@anibeto7 I understand. I'm just saying that the symbol's homeland isn't India, it's Ukraine (as far as archeology knows anyway). Maybe that'll be proved wrong in the future

@dab0331

Жыл бұрын

@@anibeto7 phenotypes are not "guaranteed" by your haplogroup BUT they do mean a certain phenotype is mathematically more likely to show in that ethnic/racial group. Why? Because phenotypes ARE passed down by fathers, and the more a people have a common ancestral father, the more likely they're to have that ancestral phenotype. Because phenotypes are passed down by the males who survive and KILL or outbreed all their competitors. AND the reason male Y haplogroups are more important than female haplogroups is because conquests and bloodlines follow the male bloodline. The women went where the men took them, and the men who survived and killed their enemies took their women and bred out their bloodline, and thus, their phenotypes. There's a reason that Western Europeans look particularly different from eastern Europeans. R1b lives in its "purist" form in Spain and Ireland. And although we may think that southern Europeans are more genetically similar, the split is actuall more western and eastern rather than southern and northern. You'll have dark Irish people who look exactly like Spaniards rather than Russian, Polish, Ukrainian; as well as Spaniards who look much more British rather than southern Greek. The reason there's the north and south divide is because southern Europeans have more E1b1b North African genes and LACK haplogroup l1 which is the Northern European gene and "purist" in Sweden. R1a is so throughly spread out that although it's common even in India, it lives in its "purist" form in Poland. The only difference is that Poles are mixed with I1 Scandinavians, while Indian R1a's are mixed with the darker and more "indigenous" H haplogroup Dravidians of the south. You also have to remember that since H is a much older bloodline it's going to contain much more non-recessive phenotypes such as darker skin, brown eyes, and curly hair/wavy hair which will OVERRIDE the later developed recessive phenotypes associated with R1a.

@anibeto7

Жыл бұрын

@@dab0331 I am very much sure you do not know the difference between phenotype and genotype. Phenotype is not passed down only from father but also mother. 22 pair of autosomes are formed from 22 paternal autosomes and 22 maternal autosomes. 1 pair of sex chromosome is formed from the Y chromosome of father and X chromosome from mother. The phenotype of father or mother is passed down half every generation.

Shoutout to my R1b brothers! R-L20 (Alpine Italo-Celtic) here!

@nukekidontheblock8349

5 ай бұрын

Italic race here, wish the Germanic never wiped you off chasing till the Britain my brother 😢 Italic and a Celtic are the oldest and pure IndoEuropean group that settled in Europe, Indo Iranian the other but not white , Germanic came after us (already mixed) and Germanic were wiped off aswell by all the hoardes of Mongolians Turks African Arabs and blablabla, Viking blonde my azz, but here in Italy we’re still the same people of 4000 years ago, never mixed with anyone Venetian Latin and Sicilians still here since the 2000 ac

@crypticreality8484

2 ай бұрын

I am R1b U152 but L2 and Z56 negative. I may be Z36 or Z192.

@Vesley34

5 күн бұрын

The origin of r1b is Kurdish geography

are there any sources of ancient dna samples of these geographies on internet ? there was a website that i could see the ancient dna samples by categories. but i dont remember :/ can you give some sources please ?

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

you can join anthogenica, lot of specialists there that can answer your more hard questions

brilliant channel. thank you for this

wow Interesting R1b is so common In the western part of Iran ,as an Iranian thats interesting and i would not expect that

A lot of this is accurate but the timeframes don't line up to DNA evidence discovered in W Europe around the Iberian Peninsula and ancient Ireland. I'm an R1b - my last name is Reilly (Óraghallagh) and I am of Western European and Canadian Inuit descent. I have found El Rahali's in Morocco and Oraghalia's in W Africa. I have been studying Euskara (Basque) for about three years and I'm currently enrolled in Euskara III at the Basque Museum in Boise. Euskara is known to be thousands of years old, with text discovered written in Paleohispanic that can easily be read by anyone who speaks the language (Irulegiko Esku), because it hasn't changed much over 2000 years. Basques have been in W Europe for thousands of years and yes we are of Asian descent, with Basque and Tibetan sharing ergative-absolutive alignment in addition to words like itxaso / gyatso (ocean) and Basque sharing many other words with Asian languages. It's not a coincidence that Basque shares ergative-alignment (statistical impossibility itself) with one Asian language and words such as "eurixe" nearly matching "yǔshuǐ" from Chinese and "txori bakarrik" with "tori bakari" (only / lonely / just (a) bird) with Japanese. The highest proportion of R1b M-269 (ancestors of modern Western Europeans) is found within Basque Country, Catalonia, Wales, and Ireland. The Northern Irish know very well their own connection to the Basques, and the stereotypical dark blue metallic eyes commonly found in R1b (even in W Africa) were found in a caveman in what is now Asturia, Spain from 5,000 BC. So, while the migration paths may be correct to a degree, the idea that my tan, dark-haired, dark-blue eyed ancestors (whom I share with many Basques, Irish, Spanish, etc) arrived in 1800 BC is proven false. Yes, perhaps another branch or waves of migrations did arrive also over time, but the bones of our ancestors have been found in Iberia from as far back as 7,000 years ago. Sources: * Blue-Eyed Iberian Ancestors: www.sciencenews.org/article/stone-age-spaniard-had-blue-eyes-dark-skin * R1b M269 (W Europeans): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M269 * Ergative Languages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergative%E2%80%93absolutive_alignment

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your information.

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

basques are sardinians nothing else , women north afrikaners , mens just the same other iberos i say iberos hebreos , egyptian

@patrickfitzgerald2052

Жыл бұрын

@@robertolang9684 Basque people aren't African.

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickfitzgerald2052 they are not afrikans originally they are Algerian Tunisian , lybians north afrika , at least thy-er share they blood samples type more than any other people , just look at the amurikaka genetic pub media journal

@patrickfitzgerald2052

Жыл бұрын

@@robertolang9684 I hate golliwogs.

Awesome video, super informative. Would love to know more about L51, my haplogroup!

I'm confused at the end by the years: For example, for L23 is written (6400 - 5100) the --> 2500 BCE --> L11 (5500 - 4800) ... how can I understand that? 🤔

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

(6400 - 5100) 6400 bp is formed year, 5100 bp means time to the most common ancestor. 5100 bp is the same as 3100 BCE.

Very interesting video. Would it be possible to do the same for autosomal DNA ? (I see that you add the admixture on some steps of the Y-chromosome migration but is it possible to make the autosomal DNA migrations map ?)

@rotagbhd

Жыл бұрын

Not possible.

@teutates604

Жыл бұрын

@@rotagbhd the admixture that are already appear in the video seems like a good start. Why wouldn't it be possible ?

@eddypc007

Жыл бұрын

@@teutates604 Because of recombination. You can have haplogroups for the Y chromosome and mtDNA because they don't recombine, meaning you get 100% of your father's Y chromosome and 100% of your mother's mtDNA.

@ver_idem

11 ай бұрын

@@eddypc007 For that periode ist was a very fast migration just 2-3 generations stable living depending on the resources and they kept moving and of course and the admixing whith other human groups.

Great effort.🎉

Thank you very much for this video, I've been looking forward to it. Proud to be R-L21.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@crypticreality8484

2 ай бұрын

U152 here

I am a rare subclade of r1b, which is v88, I have some DNA in the Levant, Caucasus region, and into NE Europe. My paternal ancestry is from Malta. My ancient ancestry is high in Celtic/Gothic/Scythian/Frankish groups.

@secondexodus9105

4 ай бұрын

Be proud you sons of Japheth for he is the father of the Gentiles

Isn't the Corded Ware culture now thought to be the vector for the spread of the lion's share of IE languages, including Celtic, Italic, Germanic and Balto-Slavic?

@TrappedInFloor

Жыл бұрын

Technically Bell Beakers (who were just a branch and cultural evolution of Corded Ware people) are the source Celtic, Italic, and Germanic. Actually, Germanic's origin is murkier - it's common to attribute it to the Battle Axe Culture, which is a northern variant with the Corded Ware horizon, but nordic people, ancient and modern, can't be accurately modeled genetically without Bell Beaker as the most significant fraction of their ancestry and also possess significant amounts of r1b lineages that originate in Bell Beaker, so it's an open question whether Germanic languages are rooted in the Battle Axe people or Beaker folk.

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

ya how come the indo european use the phoenician script then ? by borrowing ?ha ha ha ha

Amazing content.

Made a test, it gave me R-CTS1843 (/Z2109) from R-M269. Can you help me understand this?

Great videos. Thank you. My wish list contains a video that would put together R1a and R1b from the division to the corded ware. IMHO, it would help understand their relationships and what happened during CWC. Another wish would be a zoom on modern Germany. I am under the impression that there was at some stage a divide with a Germanic North and a Celtic South, mixed with local groups.

Thank you anyways and kudos for such well made map visuals with rich details and coloring, keeping it minimal but introducing vitals of economic or tech developments and geographic or biological changes on their groups for their livelihoods and possible causes to migrate past non-sedentary hunter-gathering or strictly herding. One complaint, it is the unbearable rapid fire speed of the robo-speaker recorded, to expect keeping following with any coherent train of thought _without causing distraction and disengaging on the trail, specially when jangling 3 or more haplogroups numerical tags in same sentence or two. And catch up without getting breath with next delivery row of numbers rapid download. What was going there, some technical speeding crunching speech like autistic verbal sequences? Imitating Auction MC dealers, gambling bet makers, Wall Street callers or really needed to go to the bathroom as fast as possible?

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your advice. We will try to improve the following video according to your advice.

@vgrof2315

Жыл бұрын

I agree, the narration is way too rapid and sounds like it must be a computer generated voice. Oddly it doesn't seem to be an objectionable British accent as so many of these KZread videos present. Regardless, it's hard to follow and I just gave up on it after a few minutes.

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

Also, the inconsistant and often erroneous ways of enunciating the number of years was confusing.

What is the methodology used to establish those hundreds of thousands of years ?

Haplogroup R2a originates from which population? And when was it created?

@nurakass3455

3 ай бұрын

From ancient kyrgyz

What about spreading of I1 and I2 haplogroups?

@user-yt3xd2jl6d

Жыл бұрын

There is already a video dedicated to I, the I belonged to a completely different group of Humans from the R, it arises somewhere in the Southeast of Europe and separates from the IJ 27500 years ago, the frequent J in the Middle East and the Arabian peninsula is the sister lineage of I

@abdelkaderbenchamakh8942

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-yt3xd2jl6d tu es d'où ?

@crypticreality8484

2 ай бұрын

Although later in the Paleolithic, I2 and R1B moved together

@fighterpilot4059

Ай бұрын

@@crypticreality8484 Yep, they were dnieper-donets Cro-Magnons with zero CHG in them.

I appreciate your maps, even the northern extension of the Nordic Bronze Age is shown.

The 🦣 mammoth in the room is the introduction of ancient dna to the science of genetic anthropology

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

The science of genetics helps us make more rational assumptions about archaeological and historical interpretations.

Thanks, it was informative.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt

Жыл бұрын

@@ario4795 What are you talking about?

@TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt

Жыл бұрын

@@ario4795 Well, you have the opportunity to refute his words with your arguments.

@elliottbrown1329

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt Ario is a U-Tube racists. He comments on all of these genetics videos.

@TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt

Жыл бұрын

@@elliottbrown1329 And what am I a racist at?

Looks like something straight from Eupedia. Like I said before Ancient DNA Samples is essential to know who were where when. Unfortunately the earlier studies mostly focused on where some Haplogroups are found today which can be very misleading....And Yes Villabruna had some/very little ANE ancestry but it is there and a clear indication from where the R1b Male line came. The maternal line U5b is clearly the main source of WHG in Villabruna....the most likely route I think was from Poland/Ukraine through the Czech Republic southwards into Italy and the Balkans...

@ashlyirvyn2917

Жыл бұрын

Check Balkan it has very small amount of R1b. Most R1b settled on Atlantic Coast. How they crossed and stepped on R1a to reach Atlantic Coast. How they get there in such big number? From West Europe position the turned to Central Europe. They killed all their a ers or original Mesolithic and Neolithic Europeans of I2a and Neolithic Farmers G2a the builders of Stonhange and Megalithic cultures. R1b then turned to Central Europe and rich Balkan and devastated Vincha, Lepenski Vi, Dobrotin Starchevo Cultures. These Mesolithic Europeans ran from Danube River and another 6 rivers in Central rivers and find shelters in Dinaric and Karpathic Mountains Chains. Some Genologists explained that R1b reached Europe dropping from South Siberia Balkajik sea or lakes through Caucasusb and Sina,i North Africa, and get into and occupied West Euror and Atlantic Coast.

@richern2717

Жыл бұрын

@@ashlyirvyn2917 I'm talking about the Villabruna Sample with R1b Specifically. 14 000 years ago and long before the Neolithic, Chalcolithic and Bronze Age.

@ashlyirvyn2917

Жыл бұрын

@@richern2717 Do you mean where R1b oruginate South Siberia or close to Caucasus?

@nathanaelpereira5207

Жыл бұрын

The eupedia is a good iniative, but it cannot be taken serious, its amateurish.

@XY-jw6hu

Жыл бұрын

@@ashlyirvyn2917 I agree. I think route was from middle east , anatolia to Europe. Maybe with less number, migrated to europe later. It also explains how r1b ended up in east africa.

What about R1b1a1b1b? It didn't show them.

My jaw dropped when they said the origin is Lake Baikal. I’m really drawn to that place.

@eltecnico9541

Жыл бұрын

The Ancient Siberians who gave rise to the R no longer live there

@winderwonder

Жыл бұрын

@@eltecnico9541 And?

@oldnorth2666

Жыл бұрын

@@winderwonder Are you R1b?

@anomalianomali5080

Жыл бұрын

@@eltecnico9541 many native Siberian ethnic groups around Baikal-siberia who still have high ANE DNA. like kets who have 62% of ANE DNA, they have haplogroup Q, relatives of haplogroup R, but their physical appereance are far similar to Chinese than any European especially southern Europeans

@eltecnico9541

Жыл бұрын

@@anomalianomali5080 Ket don't look like Chinese they look different, some long-nosed even have like a darker skin tone. Genetically and phenotypically they are more similar to some indigenous peoples of South America

According to David Reich and Iosif Lazaridis, male populations high in r1b(including m269) and that spoke Indo-Anatolian, developed South of the Caucasus. Only later, some of them crossed the Caucasus mountains and developed into Proto Indo-Europeans.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

R1b seems to have stayed in Anatolia for quite some time before spreading to Europe.

@richern2717

Жыл бұрын

Would like to see the samples of the Neolithic and Mesolithic from that area....because R1b was already in Europe during the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic according to actual ancient samples from Italy, Balkans, Ukraine and the Baltics...

@jasonmuniz-contreras6630

Жыл бұрын

@@richern2717 we'll see if future studies prove Reich and Lazaridis correct.

@ashala4183

Жыл бұрын

@@richern2717 specially at Albanians.

@ashala4183

Жыл бұрын

Im Albanian i have the R1b pf7562 its nothing said about this haplo in the video and its still older then R1b-l23.

I’m Palestinian with RM269, now it makes sense ancestors are natural to the Fertile Crescent and not necessarily a Western European migration.

@user-um5bt1hi3s

7 ай бұрын

Palestine is a lie land its Israel

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

You must have kurdish ancestors since salahaddin ayyubi and the kurdish tribes came to jerusalem...

@Anonymouse166

3 ай бұрын

@@KurdeQonya My DNA showed 53 percent Levantine and 37 Anatolian. I have no knowledge of any foreign ancestry but like you said the most logical connection would be hundreds of years old Kurdish roots. Thanks for your input 🤍

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

@@Anonymouse166 im also kurdish RM269 from Rashi or Rashwani Tribe…. My Tribe iş relaxed to ayyubids also and fought in quds and also there are members in Palästina egypt Saudi Arabia Jordan with surname al kurdi or ar-rashwani…. i think your rm269 iş from our Tribes but could also be from time of Amorites which iş my subtribe of rashwani called Omari/Amari in kurdish… but that would be at least 3-4 thousand years ago… cause they went until egypt and also Akhenaton tutanchamoon are the occupiers of egypt from Omari Tribe with officially RM269 Haplogroup… only those options amorites or ayyubids…Both kurdish origin

@Anonymouse166

3 ай бұрын

@@KurdeQonya interesting. Based on my family name, Saif, there is one guess. A Kurdish clan I think called seefa from around Kahramanmaraş. They have a strong history about 500 years ago in Lebanon and Palestine. But I have no way to know their Y DNA, but it can be a much older migration. I will investigate the names you mentioned:)

As a hungarian I have 16% of irish-english dnas and it is very common here, but that are celtics dnas, dont forget celts moved from central-eu and balkan to west, so put it right irish,english,scotish and welsh has some hungarian, austrian serb and rumanian genes, this is a correct timeline, but westerner potheads sitting a horse upsidedown again.

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

I like the way you talk to put things right. lol

In regards to the African group of R1b, from FTDNA y-dna tree there is a common ancestor between an African group and a Saudi Arabian group already in 2000BCE. There has been multiple waves from the middle east to central Africa, from 14.000BCE till 2000BCE.

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

FTDNA ONLY PUBLISHES WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY LIKE ALL OTHER PROFIT COMPANIES , THEY DON'T DO NO PROFIT RESEARCH IN WORLD POPULATIONS , is time to put in your heads that encyclopedia Britannia did not worked to publish the great events of the Greek roman or Egyptians , but the British empire so most what you read there is taking from other rival sources and distorted ancient historians never called hibernians or britonians keltoy but they call themselves today keltoy (celtic people) bear that in mind

@robertolang9684

Жыл бұрын

not to speak out about the ones that died in wars and famines and others disasters

@R1BV88MIXED

4 ай бұрын

R1 here. Considering one of the earliest civilization started around mesopotamia region

This is a very educative video you earned a sub and a like

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your positive comments.

After the end of the glaciation, part of the people with the "male" haplogroup R1b gradually spread from the area around the Altai Mountains westward to the middle Volga, which they reached about 13 thousand years ago. We don't yet know which people they encountered on the way there. According to the information that people with "male" haplogroup C lived on the Russian Plain about 36,000 years ago, for now we have to consider the possibility that they also encountered them and that people with "male" haplogroup C may have retreated to the east before them. to the territory of present-day Mongolia. Or, when the meteorite fell, which created Lake Ladoga about 40,000 years ago (Jurkovec 2012), people with "male" haplogroup C mostly died out and then people with "male" haplogroup I spread to the Russian Plain. This question remains open. for further research. So there is a possibility that people with the "male" haplogroup R1b encountered people with haplogroup I. How they behaved towards them is not yet known. The connection of the data given by Zohary and Hopf (2004) with those given by Kljosov (2011a,h) shows that the hunter-gatherer people with the "male" haplogroup R1b met with the advancing to people with a pastoral/agricultural culture and a "male" haplogroup R1a somewhere on the Russian Plain or south of the Urals. It seems that in this case the people with the "male" haplogroup R1b did not stick to agriculture, but continued their way of living and therefore robbed and killed livestock farmers. At the same time, as perhaps before, people with "male" haplogroup I exterminated them and ravaged the Russian Plain. After the horse was domesticated around 6,000 years ago (Skulj et al. 2008), they became even more efficient in preying, conquering and exterminating the previous inhabitants - livestock breeders and farmers. Therefore, they were forced to expand southward. About 6,000 years ago, they invaded the Eastern Balkans (present-day Bulgaria), plundered the then Copper Age (actually Early Bronze Age) society and moved the center of this industry eastward, to the middle Volga and all the way to the Black Sea (Bailey 2000; 214-218 , 240-244). We do not yet know whether they came to the Eastern Balkans by land or by sea, but they probably knew how to use both types of routes while living along the Volga. Once they mastered Early Bronze Age production, it made it easier for them to penetrate further. Then they invaded the Middle East via the Caucasus (Kljosov 2010b, 2013). Here, too, we do not yet know if only by land or from the Volga by the Caspian Lake and rivers. Part of them invaded Lower Egypt via the Middle East, where they split into two parts. One part went south and reached Chad and Cameroon via present-day Sudan. The other part went to the west and reached the Iberian Peninsula via North Africa or the sea next to it until about 4,900 years ago. From there, they continued their livelihood through Western Europe to Scandinavia (Kljosov 2010b). This links people with haplogroup R1b to some archaeological cultures, particularly the Bell Beaker culture, whose spread fits well with their spread past the Pyrenees into France and from there into northern Europe and the British Isles. If Myres et al. (2011) also took into account the results of DNA genealogy, which follow from their data and which were already published at the time of writing their paper (Kljosov 2008, 2009a,b), their conclusions would have been completely different (Kljosov 2010b). The beginning of the bell culture is placed around 4,900 years ago in the southwest of the Iberian Peninsula, where there were deposits of copper ore, and from there 4,800 to 4,700 years ago it began to spread across Western Europe, first by sea. On their way to the northeast, they created enclaves across Spain, southern France, and the Po Valley. On the way to the north, they reached the western coasts of France, the British Isles and Ireland, and everywhere they looked for deposits of copper ore and produced arsenical bronze. From the bases in Brittany, they advanced along previously established routes and reached the lower course of the Rhine around 4,700 - 4,500 years ago, where they encountered the Corded Pottery culture, whose men had haplogroup R1a (Brandt et al. 2015). Direct data currently known for Ireland indicate that they were there around 3,900 to 3,600 years ago (Cassidy et al. 2015). In the process, they also attacked and partially occupied Central Europe. With this, they caused the withdrawal of part of the people with the "male" haplogroup R1a from Central Europe to Eastern Europe. The question is also whether people with the "male" haplogroup R1b did not introduce the slaveholding order and where yes and where possibly not.

@Abeturk

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The language of the 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 people (Ou)=U= it's / that (here it's) >Më’u >Mu =Bu= this (there it’s) >Thë’u >Tsu =Şu= that (şu=~xiou) (yes it’s) >Hë’u >Hau =O= it (he /she) (Al /ël)=(bearer/carrier) ël-diger>Ol diğer= Alter > other (Iz- uz) = S (plural suffix - doubling) Der/Dar=(der = diger> other) ...(dar=narrow> nearest to the other) (Ler/Lar)= plural suffixes > Ol diğer>elder/ uldar/ ular Ön>eun>une>fore>first-one>front Bir>ber>per>pri>pre>proto>fore>first one Baş>beş>pesh>front>fifth-finger>first one>ahead (önce=~firstly)-(önünde/öncesi=~before)-(öncü=pioneer) Ka=(Qua)= which Ka-u> Ki =(Qui)=which that (Eun-de-ka-u) >Öndeki >(anterior)= which one’s in front (which one’s ahead) (Ka-eun-de-u) >Kendi >(own)= which one’s the fore ( which one’s the first) (euz=öz= self) (kendisi=own self /kendi özü=oneself) our language (this one)= Mu-eun > (Men)> Ben = I / me (eun-weu) (that one)= Tsu-eun > (xien/thien)> Sen = You (eun-thu) (the one) = Hë’u -eun > (an /on) > O = it (he /she) (eun-hëu) (these ones)= Mu-eun-iz>(miŋiz)> Biz = We (eun-weu-s) (those ones)=Tsu-eun-iz>(siŋiz)> Siz = You (eun-thu-s) (plural) Hau-ël> Ol =O= it (he /she) El=someone else (~bearer / hand) (El-der)= Eller= other people (different persons) Hau-ël-dar= (Ouldar) =Ullar (The bearer and other-s nearest to it/him) Hau-eun-dar= (Andar)=Onlar= They Mu-ël-dar=(Mouldar>Boullar) =(This bearer and other-s nearest to this) Mu-eun-dar= (Moundar>Bounnar)=Bunlar= These Tsu-ël-dar=(Xiouldar>Shoullar) =(That bearer and other-s nearest to that) Tsu-eun-dar=(Xioundar>Shounnar)=Şunlar= Those Dayı=(maternal) uncle Dayım=my uncle Dayımlar=my uncle and other ones closest to him=(~my uncle and his family) or (~my uncle and his close friends) Dayılarım=my uncles ikiz=(two similar ones) =twin ikiler =two and other dual ones üçüz=(three similar ones)=triplet üçler = three and other triple ones her = every her bir= each her-bir-u = her biri = each one bir-u-her =birer = single each iki-tsu-her =ikişer =two each (each one’s a dual) üç-u-her = üçer =three each ( each one’s a triple) yedi-tsu-her = yedişer = each one's a septet (Mu-ëun-iŋ)=Meniŋ=Benim=My (Tsu-ëun-iŋ)=Seniŋ=Senin=Your (Ou-ël-ëun-iŋ)=Olniŋ=Onun=His/her/its (Mu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Mŋiziŋ=Bizim=Our (Tsu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Sŋiziŋ=Sizin=Your (Plural) (Ou-ël-ëun-dar-iŋ)=Olndarıŋ=Onların=Their Ka-u=Ki=(Qui)=which that (Meniŋ-ka-u):=which that my...= benimki=mine (Seniŋ-ka-u):=which that your = seninki=yours (Olniŋ-ka-u):=which that his/her/its= onunki= his/hers/its Çün=(chiun)=factor Ka=(Qua)= (which) U=(ou)= it's (that) (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that (Çün-ka-u)=(factor-which-that) =Çünki =(c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why)=(therefore)= Because U-Çün = the Factor İçün=it's for= için=for

@janeausten6584

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@@Msgoddessk For a while, we can get closer to a better understanding of how it really was by confronting individual explanations and improving them, but sooner or later this stops. Then we have to use judgment to bring in additional, previously independent data, including and especially data that were not known to previous interpreters or were not taken into account. Often only an independent view "from the side" reveals new aspects of things and enables an improved interpretation. Therefore, when determining our past, it is necessary to take into account the data provided by many sciences. For more recent times, this is especially historiography, and for older people, it is especially archaeology, paleoclimatology, paleobotany, folklore, genetics, etc. Source: 1. Kljosov A A, 2011a, Biological Chemistry as a Foundation of DNA Genealogy: the Emergence of »Molecular History«, Biokhimiya . (Biochemistry (Moscow). 2. Kljosov A A, 2011h, Haplogrup R1b as a carrier of Proto-Türkic languages, aka Dene-Caucasion languages, aka Erbin, that is a non-IndoEuropean language its dynamics during 16.000 to 3.000 years before present. …(further in Russian). If you're male, get tested with 111 marker haplotypes (STRs) as well as enough information on single nucleotide base changes (SNPs). Data can help you not only verify but also sharpen interpretations and understanding of past actions.

@mackt.knight6688

Жыл бұрын

Why is “male” in quotes?

@skidguy2893

Жыл бұрын

@@Msgoddessk we prefer to be called massa, but colonizer works just fine.

@serkankinden5150

11 ай бұрын

I think indoeuropean languages are older than 6-8k years. Also, I dont think that R1 is related to indoeuropean even european. Because, when R1 people came to europe, there were elder I1 and I2 people in europe. In my opinion I1, I2 was a small part of indoeuropeans. When I look at each G, H, I1, I2, J2, L isloated haplogroup world maps, these haplogroups match well with indoeuropean culture map which include early farmer etc. cultures. Instead, R1 is uralic-altaic (agglutinative) because their origin is Altai mountains and P1 haplogroup which is relative of north asian N and east asian O3 haplogroups. Maybe, F is mesopotamian, G is georgian and caucasian arian, H is south indian, I1 is germanic visigoths, I2 is slavic ostrogoths, J2 is aramic greek and persian, L is penjabi indian. What do you think? Could you inspect without prejudices?

You have followed the Israelites perfectly from Egypt at the time of the Exodus to where they are located today. There were small tribes that left Egypt before the Exodus and settled in Nigeria. I've been tracing the Israelite tribes from Egypt to Canaan to the fall of the two kingdoms to the diaspora for years now, and you have traced their movements perfectly according to my findings.

@joemama4473

5 ай бұрын

Native isreal is R1b and R1a not J , but J is related to R1a, Arabs and Europeans both derived from cuascus, although Arabs are race mixed with Black, exspecially yemen.

@fuerstinhun98

5 ай бұрын

@@joemama4473 Thank you very much! That means that I'm 100% Israelite, despite the fact that I've always thought I was 100% German. The reality is, and I've proven this through genealogy/family history, is that virtually all Europeans are predominantly of Israelite origin. The same is true about the American Indians ~ they are NOT DESCENDED from the Europeans ~ they have common ancestors among the tribes of Israel ~ there's a vast amount of difference. I would be curious what the DNA of Asians is, because I believe they are largely of Israelite origin also, and I know most blacks also have a lot of Israelite blood in them. Race has nothing to do with skin color ~ that's a Darwinian theory, who was a satanist, and has been completely debunked ~ except in a few scientific fields of study. What can I say ~ some are a little slower.

@adityabhardwaj875

4 ай бұрын

@@fuerstinhun98 are you fr my guy

@fuerstinhun98

4 ай бұрын

@@adityabhardwaj875 No.

@karogaloyan750

4 ай бұрын

@@joemama4473 R1b and R1a has nothing in common with Israel

Thank you 🙏 ❤

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

😊😊😊👌

Some Late Paleolithic samples from the Kammenaya Balka area I think will clear up the Confusion about the Route R1bs Ancestors took into Europe.

I think, it's missing a mention about the corded-ware culture. That's, where probably, the haplogroup M269 developed, and most likely, independently from L11/L51...!!!??? Overall, very well done video

@Cattleclysmic

11 ай бұрын

Early Corded Ware were R1b rich group were closely related to Yamnaya but didn't directly descend from Yamnaya, they went North and assimilated forest steppe EHGs, over time Corded Ware became supplanted by newly assimilated R1a peoples and turned into R1a group, they pushed west and formed Balto-Slavic, and then they pushed east and formed Indo-Iranian languages So basically, Early CWC: R1b Late CWC: R1a Bell Beaker culture that formed Celtic, Italic and Germanic branches directly descend from R1b rich early CWC

👍👍👍

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Very cool.

Are modern Albanians descendant from that L23 that moved to the Balkans 6000 ya, or did we (R1b-L23 here) come later? I don't know my specific subclade.

@edboss36

Жыл бұрын

I’m a Zaza from Turkey, we’re descended from Iran in the past and I’m L-23. Idk how tho

@starfieldo

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no. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ you should check this study. modern Albanian language emerged from steppe migrants (~5000-4500 years ago), from the Yamnaya expansion as part of the southern arc. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/bin/nihms-1873728-f0001.jpg

@shesam5019

2 ай бұрын

@@edboss36I am from Gilan region in Iran and I am R-L23🤝🤝Long live the Deylami brotherhood

Iam R2a from India 🇮🇳

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍😊

What about the mig of R1b/7562

@firstnejm

11 ай бұрын

Probably 7562>63 is old proto-albanian haplogroup.

facinating science

Just of it for a moment. Reconstructed PIE language is 6-8k yep and assosiated with the spread culture is yamnaya. At the same time split for satem and centum is almost matching R1a R1b split. But this last split is 20-30k ybp.

this is also my halogroup paternal (R1B U106)like probably so much european. Fun fact Eppinghoven royal family (belgian king leopold I) are my cousins but mother side exept my paternal halogroup my father have nothing in common to my maternal side where King leopold I is her cousin and me too

@Joanna-il2ur

10 ай бұрын

Correct me if I misremember, but wasn’t Leopold I the uncle of Queen Victoria? Her ancestry is from the Electors of Hanover, so I guess his was too. Mostly German, but with a tiny bit of Scottish Stuart.

@crypticreality8484

2 ай бұрын

U have the typical West Germanic paternal ancestry

Packed with interesting information, good map graphics, unfortunately poorly narrated by rapid robo voice without natural pauses. Tip: natural speakers do not say "One three three zero zero BCE" they say "thirteen thousand three hundred BCE"

This is very close to home. My haplogroup is R1b-U106.

Showing modern borders speaking of times so long ago is actually harmful.

I AM SO CONFUSED and need someone to explain my origins. I am Pakistani and I am R1b1a1b [R-CTS1843] which is the most dominant group in Europe. But I am 0% European. I have no family history of European ancestry and don't seem to have any European ancestor in the last 400 years or so. I do have many distant cousins (7th or 8th cousins with 0.12 or 0.14 DNA shared) who are all White Americans or Europeans. I also have ancestors who are 100% from Levant, Anatolia and Central Asia. What does it all mean? Does it mean that my original paternal ancestors were European who eventually migrated to Americas or does it mean that thousands of years ago siblings of my forefathers migrated to Europe?

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

Balochi?

@QabilAGhor

3 ай бұрын

@@KurdeQonya No I am not Baloch.

@verenatuna9010

3 ай бұрын

It means that your paternal lineage is a mix of both, Shemitic (mtd, maternal) and Asiatic (paternal) people groups who mingled in Mesopotamia, then migrated both, northward to Eurasia/Western Europe - and southward into India.

@QabilAGhor

3 ай бұрын

@@verenatuna9010 It is interesting that you made that observation. Are you suggesting that R-CTS1843 is originally an Asiatic haplogroup and not European? 23&Me shows that about 7 generations ago [this is as far back as they can trace, I guess], I had one ancestor who was 100% Levantine and the second oldest (in the same time frame) was 100% Anatolian. So you could be right that an Anatolian male ancestor probably married a Levantine woman. A cousin of my mother (partly European) shows 0% Levantine or Anatolian DNA, so that must all have come from the paternal side. I am also 2% Iranian/Caucasian/Mesopotamian.

@verenatuna9010

3 ай бұрын

@@QabilAGhor Yes Qabil, I do consider haplogroup R -CTS1843 (R in general) to be (originally) Asiatic! I believe, that haplogroup R heavily mingled with the ancient Elamites - and maybe other people groups in Mesopotamia, like eg. the Assyrians and Chaldeans. Eg. the Persians and Medes were such a mixed people group. I assume, that their phenotype changed in Europe, due to admixing with "Caucasian" groups (like hgs I, J, K, G, etc) from the maternal lines.

Hi, I'm a kurd from Turkey but have L-23. Where can find more information about this?

@user-yt3xd2jl6d

7 ай бұрын

Haplogrup L originated in the Irani plateau, we find it more frequently in South Asian countries, Pakistan and western India.

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-yt3xd2jl6dhes talking about R1b-L23

@Selerikler

Ай бұрын

L haplogroup Yafes soyundan Sümer.

@touijer

26 күн бұрын

That's not the deepest clade but it's most likely Yamnaya haplogroup

@Communard84

12 күн бұрын

L-23 is not enough. You need to know the subclade.

I am Afro * American Bantu from the U.S. and my family is R1b. My maternal is R-H5h

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

Is it R1b-V88? Cause it has an high percentage among the chadic people in africa and yes bantu tribes are not far away from them but bantu tribes are mostly E1b… so that means we are from one father … my black brother hehe dont be worry im not white im brown from middle east…

@bantugirlz

3 ай бұрын

@@KurdeQonya My dad is R1b R-S675, not the one from Chad😎

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

@@bantugirlz hmm interesting... that means your father is mixed afro and european?

@bantugirlz

3 ай бұрын

@@KurdeQonya Pima Indian and Scotland Sub*Saharan Africa. Yes!

@KurdeQonya

3 ай бұрын

@@bantugirlz what the f... hes not even afro how do you call yourself bantugirl hehehe

R-DF13 is my Y-DNA haplogroup... I knew there was a reason I liked the number thirteen!

My YDNA is R1b-Z2103, branche Z2106.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

good!

@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96

Жыл бұрын

mine is R1b-Z278 from eastern Iberia, I assume you're either Portuguese or Brazilian?

@genealogiaegeneticaemfoco1324

Жыл бұрын

@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Yes, I am Brazilian, my paternal lineage is Italian from Southern Italy

@ArkaimUral

Жыл бұрын

У нас половина башкир такой группы)))

Damn it feels good to be R1b 🥃😌

@Cyrusthegreat2928

11 ай бұрын

I am Zaza and my haplogroup R1b-L23

@armanto8271

11 ай бұрын

@@Cyrusthegreat2928 hi cousin 👋🏻

@Cyrusthegreat2928

11 ай бұрын

@@armanto8271 Hi

@skeptic781

11 ай бұрын

Hell yeah brother 😎

@armanto8271

11 ай бұрын

@@skeptic781 🦾😉where you from brother ?

Great work. I’m curious about the less common lines like L-1335. Thanks

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

L1335 belongs to the branch of R-L21, and the time to the most common ancestor is 1270 BCE.

What are your sources and how scientific is your narrative?

@starfieldo

Жыл бұрын

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ check it for yourself.

@anomalianomali5080

10 ай бұрын

It is common knowledge

“just remember this every race comes from the black”

Sanskrit is not an old language - the languages that were actually old in North Indian subcontinent was Prakrit and Pali languages. There is a huge amount of confusion about Prakrit languages. There are 12 major North Indian languages 1, Apabhraṃśa (Prakrit); 2. Ardhamagadhi(Prakrit); 3. Dramili (oldest Prakrit); 4. Elu; 5. Gandhari; 6. Kamarupi; 7. Magadhi; 8. Maharashtri; 9. Paishachi; 10. Pali (also mentioned as Prakrit by some kingdoms); 11. Shauraseni; 12. Khasa. But each language is different and a few are referred as Prakrit language at different times especially the Dramili is the language used in the Ashoka edicts as Prakrit language which is the oldest written record for Pali and Prakrit. Ancient India had used Pali and Prakrit languages in Jainism and Buddhism literatures. Sanskrit is a new language that was created by refining, merging and choosing grammar and verbiage of all these 12 major languages- that’s why there is no record of written Sanskrit in ancient monuments of Jainism and Buddhism in Pali literature which were the oldest religions of Ancient India. Hence the claim to Sanskrits to be old is not proven and even Rig Veda is first written down in 14th century AD and all claims are only verbal and they wrongly point to the written literature records of Prakrit or Pali languages as Sanskrit. Hindi is formed much later by choosing the largest spoken dialect of Prakrit in the present day Uttar Pradesh. So it very clear that anything written in Sanskrit is newly written literature after Sanskrit was formed.

@andreamessiasgomes7118

2 күн бұрын

Sanskrit originated in India by Aryans who migrated to India so yes you are right, what you mentioned is somewhat right. Buddhism is the first organised religion of India not Sanatana dharma/Hinduism which again were brought by the Aryans. Have you heard of Enochian Sanskrit read about it you will be suprised.

I’m Aššūrāiu (Assyrian) born in māt-Aššur (northern iraq and surrounding regions) and majority of our people have R1b @ 39%

Are R1b people founders of the Vincha culture?

@user-zo4gy5co1j

27 күн бұрын

No they are Romans descendants

the white features come from hapolgroup i ydna and g ydna. hapolgroup R is native or mongol looking

@verenatuna9010

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Dou_Y

2 ай бұрын

they killed the real europeans and conquered european women so they got today's looking

@touijer

26 күн бұрын

Yes, original R1b's were tanned

I would like to see a video about the Eastern branch of the R1b the R1b-Z2103.

@FTC207

10 ай бұрын

i have that one too

Can you do O haplogroup? The difference between Koreans, Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese etc...

@user-yt3xd2jl6d

7 ай бұрын

He already made the O

R1b-Z2103 Illyrian haplogroup found in vucedol cultural area 💪

@DinaricUbermensch

Жыл бұрын

@@tomo5521 Yes it was, there were samples from Vucedol that were R1b-z2103 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vu%C4%8Dedol_culture

@DinaricUbermensch

Жыл бұрын

@@tomo5521 Did you even go on the link I sent?m a sample of R1b-Z2103 was found in croatia which dates back to bronze age proto-illyrian culture. the illyrians spoke an indo-european language.

@DinaricUbermensch

Жыл бұрын

@@tomo5521 It's not just wikipedia that says this lol, even on many other sites like eupedia, theapricity etc talk about it and say that R1b-Z2103 was found in Vucedol cultural area

@DinaricUbermensch

Жыл бұрын

​@@tomo5521 I never said they originated from vucedol, they were already established people during bronze age with the Vucedol culture

@user-po3cg2cm2i

Жыл бұрын

@@DinaricUbermensch Hi I have Haplogroup I2-M223

Good video. There are better robot readers. Using a better one would be a big plus.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

😊😊😊 Let's train my AI more.

@76rjackson

Жыл бұрын

@@geonomad1 sure! May I suggest, then, that in the script you cue the AI to read the haplogroup designations more slowly by inserting spaces between the alphanumerics? eg. R 1 a, R 1 b, etc. That's one way it might sound more natural since English native speakers do tend to give each alphanumeric full and equal stress but the AI isn't doing that. Just a thought.

I believe many pre-Colombian native Americans have Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b also. How did they travel there?

@anomalianomali5080

10 ай бұрын

Bering strait

@eltecnico9541

9 ай бұрын

Most of the Native Americans who have R1b are from Settlers who had children with natives several centuries ago, then a small portion is suspected to have come from the Vikings, and then there is R1 (ancestor of R1a and R1b) that came through the Bering Strait. , Native Americans and Europeans share a common ancestor in Altai Siberia, R and Q are related

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

Really kinda doubt the Vikings left any genetic trace, except among the much later Scandinavian settlers in N. America.@@eltecnico9541

So the P312 lines that moved into Western Europe from around the fringes off the Aujentiz culture (dominated by I2 and some G) bringing Bronze tech from its Bulgarian sources (1st in Europe) only did so.... finding into, that the Bell Beaker culture already had spread into such territories? I thought that in the last 15 years, it had been widely accepted the theory that it was only the R1b carriers, the ones that caused the spread of the Bell Beakers cultural phenomenon. Rejecting the older theories that always credited such cultural revolution over all Western Europe and parts of Africa, to the like ceramics and package off the Kitchen middens of Portugal estuaries (spread much like Sherry or Porto wines have been distributed to North Europe since the Middle Ages) where Bronze also arrived earlier _and not from Central Europe, but directly through the Mediterranean Trade. Some even have seen the Bell Beakers culture earliest spread in still Neolithic Western Europe. Never adopted by other R1b carriers and Indo-European speakers in Eastern or Central Europe (?)

@stanleyshannon4408

Жыл бұрын

So you are suggesting that R1B formed in Iberia and spread out from there?

@crypticreality8484

2 ай бұрын

What are you asking exactly? Bell Beakers IMHO were early adventures that branched off from a Unetice like origin. Even most EARLY Corded Ware males were R1b. The only proto Indo European culture that was R1a dominant was the Sredny Stog.

Great to have the the mapping of the migration with the archeology and geography of the time period to get a clearer picture. There is one conflation at the end of the video, R-DF19 is shown as a branch of R-L11 rather than R-P312 and R-U106 as a branch of R-P312 rather than of R-L11. Sorry for the nit picking but I’m R-DF19 so I notice… also that one should probably be marked in the Netherlands rather than Denmark as that is where the oldest DNA samples are from and there are not enough old Scandinavian samples to make it clear that it has old roots in Scandinavia… though there is one branch of R-DF19>DF88 that seems like it could be.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

I tried to mark the points as accurately as possible on the map. However, please understand that it cannot be 100% accurate. Thanks for your additional information.

@sgjoni

Жыл бұрын

@@geonomad1 No need to apologise. These maps are great!… so, well done. I do realise that they are only guesstimations based on distribution of modern samples and a hand full of ancient ones… that is why I excused my nit picking. I just couldn’t resist because my haplogroup is R-DF19+ and I’ve been debating this for a while in different forums. The consensus seems to be that R-DF19 is Germanic/Scandinavian but I haven’t been able to find any evidence for that claim in the data. The very sparse number of samples from Scandinavia seem to be relatively recent arrivals bar one branch… and it’s main distribution seems to be from the Rhine region in Germany to the British Isles, peaking in Belgium.

@TheMariepi3

Жыл бұрын

Scandinavia until about ten thousand years ago was covered in ice. Possibly the first humans to settle there had arrived in a slow migration from the Balkans (haplogroup i), following the mammoths and other taiga-type animals that moved northward as the masses of ice were replaced by tundra. Instead, the R1b were possibly horse hunters from the Caspian area.

@bethbartlett5692

Жыл бұрын

@@geonomad1 How were all the Original Male English eliminated? Less than 2% 9f their DNA remains in Britain, the Female continued. This means all Males: Adult, Adolescent, Child, and Infant, were eliminated, either by slavery or by "ethnic cleansing", replaced by the Germanics, Anglo, Saxons, Jutes, Normans, Romans, ... It was not a "natural fade". This subject has obviously been removed from the records, (for people whom are obsessed with record keeping, it was not an oversight). I await some content that explains the facts. I found it most difficult to gain any clarity, thus I'm left to assume, using my accumulation of knowledge on such subjects. a Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian PS: Horses were the business of Scythians and Mongols. BTW, Abe Lincoln showed up in our family DNA and Ancestry.com. 4th cousin, Twice removed. Amazes me, but I am Basque lineage Irish (American), Rh(-) and County Kerry.

@bennybenny5509

9 ай бұрын

Moin ich bin auch DF19 was meinst du ist es germanisch oder keltisch. so genau konnte es mir auch keiner sagen weil es zuwenig von uns gibt , ich weiß nur dass wir zu dir glockenbecher gehören

I think P diversification into Q/R occurred in India or Central Asia. I think these people were far-ranging nomadic hunter-gatherers, so naming a single place as their origin is an oversimplification. I think the R1/R2 split occurred in India. R1a/R1b split occurred somewhere east of Armenia, but the first founder event that resulted in R1b becoming more common in the west happened in Armenia/Anatolia. I think these people in Armenia would have been recognizably Indo-European or some type of ancestral pre-Indo-European. R1a and R1b people never really separated from one another, and the Indo-European language evolved over time with continual contact between R1b (“Centum”, sea-faring agriculturists/pastoralists, Anatolian/Pontic/Mediterranean branches) and R1a (“Satem”, horse-domesticating pastoralists, Indo-Iranic/steppe branches).

@serkankinden5150

Жыл бұрын

If P diversification happened in India and they were indoeuropeans (your opinion), why N (mostly finnic) and O (including koreanic and japonic) relative haplogroups are located in north asia, east asia and their linage shows from southeast asia to north asia? Also another relative M haplogroup has reached until Papua island.

@_Painted

Жыл бұрын

​@@serkankinden5150 You're talking about all of the descendants of haplogroup K. I think K's descendants split up in southeast Asia. N+O spread along the eastern side of the Tibetan plateau in ancient times, and eventually populated most of east Asia. Later, a founder population of N (Uralic peoples) made the transition to an arctic lifestyle and split off to spread throughout north Eurasia. O (Austronesians) also spread far into island Asia by seafaring. Many population waves out of east Asia into southeast Asia (such as "Nanman" fleeing Han expansion) also increased the amount of O in southeast Asia and decreased the amount of other groups, like D and other forms of K, gradually resulting in the disappearance of most other peoples such as negritos. M+S became separated by the flooding of Sundaland. P spread along the south and western side of the Tibetan plateau in ancient times. I think P far predates Indo-European language. I think that the split between Q and R also predates Indo-European language, as well as the R1 and R2 split. I think Indo-European language and culture evolved over a long period of time while there was continual, but limited, contact between related peoples, carrying mostly forms of haplogroup R, spanning a vast area from India, Central Asia, and through northern Iran (Tabaristan), across the Armenian highlands and into Anatolia. I think that several bottleneck/founder events occurred while crossing over Armenia and into Anatolia, resulting in the western side having mostly haplogroup R1b, while the source population carried R1a with a much smaller minority of R1b. Perhaps a few early farming settlements in eastern Anatolia founded by R1b carriers resulted in the haplogroup rapidly growing in population in the west. I think R1b carriers spread from Anatolia across the black sea to the Pontic steppe (Yamnaya). I don't think the Pontic steppe was the sole source of Indo-Europeans into Europe, but the Pontic Steppe was actually settled by the same Anatolian Indo-European expansion, and these Anatolians also took other routes into Europe, such as across the Black Sea and then along the Danube river, and from Anatolia directly to settlements along the Mediterranean coastline.

@serkankinden5150

Жыл бұрын

@@_Painted Yes possible good theory. Nice! On the other hand, I am thinking nearer to other theory that P has migrated together with N, O haplogroups and settled to Altai mountains. R has spread to central asia and then they have migrated to west and south continuosly after central asia became arid and desert. They were uraloaltaic instead of indoeuropeans.

@serkankinden5150

11 ай бұрын

@@_Painted When I look at Wikipedia, P haplogroup has been found only in Timor, Philippines and Indonesia (like K2 haplogroup), after mutation it changes to P1 and P1 is mostly found in turkic people reaching 40 percent among all people over 10 percent. So, there is no evidence about that P haplogroup lineage shows India. Only east india exist in the list but it is much fewer than turkic people. Also, it may have migrated by R1a expansion from central asia to south asia in later ages. Even in Croatia, P1 exist who have migrated to west as turkic Avar/Abar P1 during R1a expansion of Huns to europe. Also, what do you think about Basq people? They are fully R1b and speak an isolated, agglutinative language like uralic and altaic languages. Additionally, Basq people call themselves as "Eu-Sk-ar-a" and read as "eushkara". This name is very similar to Sak-ar/Sc-yth-ian of history and Bashk-ir turkic people of north caucasia who are mostly R1b. As far as I learned from wikipedia, Sak-ar means "nomads" in persian language (Persian King I. Darius mentioned from them as "who have come from other side of caspian sea (central asia, Turkmenstan), fighted for persians and continued to caucasia and anatolia". Likewise, we Oghuz turkic people call us Yürü-k, Tur-(u)k, Tur-(u)k-men meaning "we are nomads" too. (Turkmen haplogroup is not major in Turkey, because we mixed with other ethnicities of ancient anatolia and converted them to turkic after Seljukian conquer, but Turkmenstan is still 40 percent R1b even 55 percent P+R1a+R1b.) I know that Basq R1b haplogroup is maybe 10-20k years old but I think those immigrations continued in time as also told in Herodotus writings. Also, Occitanian is similar to Eu-Sk-it-an and Etruscan is similar to Eu-Tur-eu-S(a)k who call themselves "Rasenna" which is similar to mother shewolf of old turkic myths called as "Asena". (As you can sea in symbol of Roma football team) Additionally, in old turkic alphabet "B" and "V" are same consonants and some european people call themselves as Basconian, Vasconian or Gascoigne and kurgan culture is directly related to central asian old turkic culture. Even Gaul-ic is similar to Gel-ik meaning "i come (from somewherelse)".

@serkankinden5150

11 ай бұрын

Sorry #"we come (from somewherelse)"

Where is the Haplogroup J2 ? If you explain the yamnaya origins you must mentioned about caucassian hunter-gatherers. So the j2 haplogroup is the important role for yamnaya populations

How about rL -4

Turkic Tribes Culsters R1b1a2 Uyghur Khaganate R1b1a2a2 Uyghur Khaganate R1b1a1a* Kypshak Branch R1b1b1 Komandin Branch R1b1a1a2a Bashkir Branch R-Y14051 Kimak Branch R-Ph200 Hun Branch

@papazataklaattiranimam

Жыл бұрын

Although R is Asiatic in origin, it is unfortunately tried to be made European by eurocentrics.

@aboba5995

Жыл бұрын

Don't tell to Turkic "people" that R and Q come from the Caucasoid Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), also don't tell them that these haplogroups still dominate in Caucasoid populations. Q dominates in Yeniseian populations R dominates in IE populations

@robinrosevear

Жыл бұрын

My paretnal line is R1b1b2, M269, do you have any info about this one?

@anomalianomali5080

Жыл бұрын

@@aboba5995 ANE isnt caucasoid they from distinct different group, the real caucasoid is arab, europe is basically mix between arab like people and siberian like people

@Selerikler

Ай бұрын

P haplogroup is Angara or Hungara.Than coming two tribe.First is Baykal(Baikall) and second Altay(Altai).Baykal tribe is Q haplogroup.Altay is R haplogroup.

Bottom line everyone is from African

@Paraclef

7 ай бұрын

NON. Topography, geology show that this can not be true at all. You are ignorant.

@jasonmuniz-contreras6630

6 ай бұрын

So what?

@touijer

4 ай бұрын

Bottom line everyone is human

Hello. I live in South of Ukraine. I can explain the ways of L754 migrations there near 3500bc.

Interesting how Provadia salt mine culture burials fit into this. 7000 years ago at 5000+BCE? It is clear that there were already trade routes (horses domesticated allready, wheeled cars) established based on Salt trade. Gold artifacts show added value in hands of aristocracy. So chronology might have to be pushed back some?

Hello, i am a Kurd or Kurdish or i am from Kurdistan, my haplogroup is R1b-L2 or R1b1a1b1a1a2b1. I am very confused 😂 What does it mean?

@Baryshx

10 ай бұрын

Congratulations, you are Turk😅

@Vedatyildirimm

10 ай бұрын

@@Baryshx on the contrary, you are a Kurd. 🤨

@Joanna-il2ur

10 ай бұрын

On the contrary, you are yourself. You are not your DNA!

@Baryshx

10 ай бұрын

@@Vedatyildirimm Haha, you're very funny, but genes don't lie😉

@Vedatyildirimm

10 ай бұрын

@@Joanna-il2ur do you have an instagram account?

Kinda interesting. Kinda like how in China certain paternal line last name dominant over time, I guess this random father line from Asia dominated. I'd guess that people in the fertile crest had the population and learned farming so they could easily expand north after the ice age and probably dominated economically, so their male line out grow the previous male lines in Europe. This topic is scary with all the racist propaganda out there on this subject. People are so obsessed with having their people come from a grand narrative as though that makes them special.

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

People who hunted mammoths near Baikal migrated to various places as the prey decreased as the climate changed.

I am Lambani a tribe from India we have R1b 38-40% R1a-8.6% and c1-17.1% and L1-17.1%

What about R1b M478?

Gog Magog tribe. Gog R1b Magog R1a😂😂😂

@ouperta5973

11 ай бұрын

اشکانیان همون دودمانهای۶ و ۱۷ و ۱۸ مصری هستند . از سکاهای غربی پردرایه که آتون پرست بودند بعد اینکه از مصر بر میگردند از بابل رد میشن و باغهای معلق بابل رو میسازند به اطراف دریای سیاه کوج میکنند و بعدا مهرانیان رو هم دوره اشکانیها تاسیس میکنند در جنگهاشون ازینها کمک میگیرند. در اطراف دریای خزر اشکناز های سکایی یا یاجوج و ماجوج میشوند ازونجا به چین میرن و اهرام چینی میسازن بعد داخل فلات ایران بر میگردند حکومت ادابن رو در عراق و خوزستان امروزی تاسیس میکنند ازونجا به شرق میرند و در سیستان حکومت هندو سکایی رو برقرار میکنند این دوران مقارن است با شکست پارسها از اسکندر که به خراسان کوچ میکنند و اشکانیان رو تاسیس میکنند با روم ۷۵۰ سال میجنگند و با دین مهر پرستی و نصرانی مسیحی که از اتون پرستی مصری منتج شده کشورهای ایتالان اسپن پروس بیزانس پلستین ... رو بنا میکنند و با اعراب میجنگند و از نفوذ اعراب به اروپا جلوگیری میکنند بازماندگانشون زبان فارسی رو در شرق گسترش میدند که بعد اعراب داخل ایران نفوذ میکند و بعد از چندین حکومت زبان فارسی تو هند گسترده و حفظ میشه بعدها ترکا و مغولهام هندرو فتح میکنند اما در زبان شرقی فارسی جذب و نابود میشن . و اما زبان فارسی با زبان پارسی هخامنشی فرق داره . این زبان با یونانی و لاتین همخانواده یه . بازماندگان زبان پارسی باستان مثل بلوچها گیلان .. ریشه های زبان فارسی رو باید در مصر باستان جستجو کرد که یونانیها کارگران اهرام مصر بودند و به زبان رمزی بین خودشون صحبت میکردند . الفبای فارسی از الفبای هیر گلف مصری بوجود آمده. وقتی سکاهای مصری به هندوستان لشکر میکشند قومیتی از خودشون به جا میزارن که احتمالا به زبان زرگری صحبت میکردند . پیشینه زبانهای رمزی به مصر برمیگرده بنایان اهرام مصری. زبان زرگری الانم تو هند هست پادشاهان اشکانیم بین خودشون با زبان زرگری یا پهله حرف میزدند که با حذف ز زبان دری دیوانی هندی ...

R1B master of the world

@straytonox1492

Жыл бұрын

and R1A too

@robertrobski1013

Жыл бұрын

R1B is a culture of homosexual parades nothing else

@straytonox1492

Жыл бұрын

@@robertrobski1013 on jew influence yeah

@straytonox1492

Жыл бұрын

@@robertrobski1013 on jew influence yeah

@straytonox1492

Жыл бұрын

@@robertrobski1013 bassicly easy life have destroy our spirit

can this video be in hindi also?

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

You can select Hindi.

You reported a siberian origin for haplogroups Qand R. Please explain to me what ancestral Q population back migrated from lake baikal area into India to make up 3% of males today...a much more sensible explanation would be an Indian point of origin, spreading from the infinitely higher population present there and the widest variability of Q of any population

R1b-u152 here

I'm R1b z381 from Australia 🇦🇺

Who were the people living in the middle east at that time, 50,000 years ago or so?

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

There were still some Neanderthals in Europe, but don't know if they'd survived in the Middle East at that time. Presumably there were Homosapiens descendants of the Khoisan who'd left Africa 20,000 years before.

this video makes it clear that languages are nothing compared to ancestry

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

Genetic analysis has enabled more accurate historical interpretation.

@anomalianomali5080

Жыл бұрын

Yeah after learn about genetic i believe that ethnic group which is based on languages is really just social construct

@starfieldo

Жыл бұрын

@@geonomad1 genetic analysis has also added more relevance to phylolinguistic analyses. you should probably take this study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ into consideration, for an updated video.

D'après une analyse génétique je suis L51 mais d'après certains généticiens c'est l'haplogroupe le plus fréquent dans le sud de la France. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi cette sous-clade de R1b est absente du processus décrit dans votre vidéo. D'autre part certains scientifiques pensent que R est apparu spontanément autour du lac Baikal, exactement comme A, B ,C sont apparus spontanément en Afrique sans aucun lien entre eux. R serait donc selon cette thèse un euro-asiatique et pas un africain d'origine!

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

From another comment, there seemed to be the implication that R was introduced to sub saharan Africa by Arabians as early as 14,000 yrs ago (?).

@verenatuna9010

3 ай бұрын

R is definitely Euro-Asian.

@touijer

26 күн бұрын

T'est dans une sous-clade beaucoup plus récente que L51, mais L51 c'est la branche R1B qui est aller a l'Ouest tandis que l'autre branche Z2103 est aller dans l'Est.

Откуда же взялся язык басков? Настоящий, исконный язык R1b?

@aboba5995

Жыл бұрын

Ты бы ещё коптский (новоегипетский) предположил, ибо среди коптов есть значимое число R1b. Ещё тюркский можешь предположить как "исконный" язык для "эрбинов", ибо у башкир имеется R1b. Что ж только нам на баскском останавливаться, нужно что более шизанутое и клёсовское.

@user-ie9bw1rj1v

Жыл бұрын

@@aboba5995 Кто доказал, что R1b говорят на индоевропейских языках так же долго, как и R1a?

@aboba5995

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ie9bw1rj1v А кто вообще доказал что палеоевропейская популяция R1a изначально говорила на ПИЕ, мне интересно? :) А то смотря на древние археологические ПИЕ культуры, ранних/средних/поздних носителей, там сплошь доминация R1b (ямная, хвалынская, самарская, днепро-донецкая и т. д.). Предки всяких индо-иранцев, славян могли вообще говорить на протоуральском, по некоторым исследованиям.

@user-ie9bw1rj1v

Жыл бұрын

@@aboba5995 - "..Предки всяких индо-иранцев, славян могли вообще говорить на протоуральском.." - когда они заговорили на индоевропейском?

We have Lurs- one of the true Iranian tribes which hold 80-90 % R1b

P1:R and brother Q is Ancient Siberian Altaic Turkic and Native american blood🐺

@geonomad1

Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌

@Jamrock151

Жыл бұрын

R Is originally mongoloid/East-Eurasian.

@anomalianomali5080

10 ай бұрын

​@@Jamrock151probably basal east asian not modern east asian, "mongoloid" looking only exist 10kya

@Dou_Y

2 ай бұрын

turk is mongoloid, and turk is originally haplogroup N@@Jamrock151

@ChristopherTanne-se3pz

Ай бұрын

Look new reaserch. Transeurasic familiy. Turk eastasien ! Dont try be blond aryan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Both Basque and Chadic peoples have this haplo :0

@ninafernandez4440

Жыл бұрын

No. Basque R1b M269 Chadic R1b V88. …

@papazataklaattiranimam

Жыл бұрын

@@ninafernandez4440 still R1b

@ninafernandez4440

Жыл бұрын

@@papazataklaattiranimam Yes R1b like Irish people or most of the population of Western Europe... Have you seen the video?

@patrickfitzgerald2052

Жыл бұрын

@@papazataklaattiranimam They're evil Sub-Saharans.

@patrickfitzgerald2052

Жыл бұрын

@@ninafernandez4440 This guy is trying to compare us Europeans to non-humans.

Doesn't this sound like a computer generated audio?

@cathjj840

6 ай бұрын

It is. Needs finer tuning. Author admitted it.