the fact that one of the employees got FIRED years ago for showing concern for the subs safety already tells you a lot of how that company operated in the first place

Ever since the Sub disappeared, learning how poorly put together the sub was, how reckless the CEO was, more and more each day pass by.. I expected the worst and I felt bad for that 19 year old that had a bad feeling about the Submersible but was pressured by his father and did it for him for father's day.

@pax6833

Жыл бұрын

For real it's like every day there was a new story about some other rediculous corner cutting this guy did.

@Kromgar1337

Жыл бұрын

Literally pressured into ash by his dad

@ShadowEclipex

Жыл бұрын

That kid is the only one I feel sorry for on that sub.

@ThatsPrettyFunnyMan

Жыл бұрын

I wish the kid that went against his better judgement didnt have to go, but if so he would've witnessed the entire internet sphere memeing the inevitable death of his presumably beloved father bcs he did go to make him happy on Father's day. Jumping into a 'sub' (read: death tube) that is controlled by a gaming controller and paying for it, I dont see any way shape or form that people wouldnt mock you for it.

@Ganjamm

Жыл бұрын

Actually the mom commented that her son was exitced to get on the sub. Look in to it

This was either going to be a tragic incident or a "damn, how tf did they even live" moment

@Bob-nc5hz

Жыл бұрын

They were never going to live, you don't live through a failure of the pressure cell at 400 atm.

@pax6833

Жыл бұрын

@@Bob-nc5hz "how tf did they even live" assumed that the sub was still intact caus we didn't know yet

@bobbysworld281995

Жыл бұрын

Not tragic, Darwinist.

@lucashiki3628

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbysworld281995 please be trolling please be trolling please be trolling

@Zlyde007

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbysworld281995 whaaaat? you mean people shouldn't pay $250,000 and get into a submarine built with subpar recycled materials by a guy that essentially said "fuck safety" and even fired people that told him that his submarine isn't safe? such a hot take man.

So, I think one of the main factors that went into the difference in reaction between the Thai cave rescue and the Ocean Gate situation is that cave situation was a freak accident that nobody could have prevented. The OceanGate event was self-inflicted. The owner built a submersible that all experts in the industry warned would not work over time and that owner didn't listen and the thing those experts warned about ended up happening. It's less a horrible accident and more that rich guy murder/suiciding 4 other people he misled into believing it was safe

@littlelw319

Жыл бұрын

those Thai cave also self inflicted. there is a warning sign regard of cave can be flooded, but somehow the kids and especially THE COACH ignored the warning when it was a rainy season.

@pacmonster066

Жыл бұрын

@@littlelw319 Unless you're an asshole that is *not* self-inflicted. A sign that says cave "can" be flooded and a sudden rainstorm that dumps more water than is average for the area is not remotely the same scenario as a person making a submersible that is not tested to regulations, firing an employee who pointed out the danger in their craft, and still the owner went down anyway lying to the people he brought with him that the sub was tested and certified. 999 out of 1000 times the cave situation does not end in people being trapped. Literally nobody blamed the kids for what happened.

@R3TR0J4N

Жыл бұрын

Yea a submersible casket

@okapi7559

11 ай бұрын

Millionaires were so narcissistic and felt so powerful because of their fortune that they really thought they could bend the laws of physics. Honestly, what a shit show this was. I just feel bad for the young man.

I love how our bois literally have engineering degrees and yet don’t know the term “implosion “ 😂😂😂

Morbid fact: The submarine, due to the depth and pressure likely imploded within 1 millisecond. It takes the human brain on average 13 milliseconds to register a visual signal, and 250 milliseconds to react and process a thought. Everyone aboard died without even being able to process what happened or pain of any kind

@pax6833

Жыл бұрын

Nah they knew it was coming because the sub had an alarm if the sub started to fail. Problem is that carbon fiber fails fast so they only had a few seconds of warning. Just enough time to panic.

@spiderdude2099

Жыл бұрын

@@pax6833 please take note that I said it IMPLODED in a millisecond. They had plenty of notice that something was wrong beforehand. But the actual failure of the submarine and subsequent implosion happened faster than the brain could register. They likely were huddled for several minutes in fear before they just ceased existing in a fraction of a second.

@Oh_the_humanity

Жыл бұрын

​@@pax6833they used some sort of auditory warning system, where the carbon fiber would go and make little popping sounds if things went wrong. Shit system, but they knew.

@Ligmamonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@pax6833 the alarm system would activate almost at the same time as the failure of the hull, it's akin to using a visual monitoring system to warn about lightning.

@R3TR0J4N

Жыл бұрын

Yea

1:45 Depressurization? Quite the opposite, there was suddenly *too much* pressure in that submersible...

@friedrich_13

3 ай бұрын

You mean around that sub?

The navy didnt reveal for a few days that it heard the submarine implode because it uses that same system to track russian and chinese submarines, and doesnt want to tell them how accurate or quick its detection systems are. So it waited until it was almost certain that they were dead to confirm it.

@Lord_Plasma_3

Жыл бұрын

Oceangate also knew that the sub imploded, their entire reaction was a facade to try and save face and shift blame in public perception

@VValkyr

Жыл бұрын

Well, it's not about wanting to reveal it, they didn't wanna say "oh they exploded" to them find out they in fact didn't and there was still a chance to save them. I mean, otherwise they wouldn't confirm it after the fact.

@thevictoryoverhimself7298

Жыл бұрын

@@VValkyr the sound of a submarine implosion is one of the least subtle of the many thousands of sounds that the US navy listens for. (And likely has the mother of all AI deciphering for them) I very much doubt they weren’t certain of it instantly. Microphones thousands and thousands of miles away would pick it up clearly

@gredystar8333

Жыл бұрын

The system that caught the explosion is called the SOSUS and has been operational for decades. It's a long cable that can detect waves moving through water. While it's technically not public, it's no secret either, and you can bet foreign nations know its location already. It you want to go full tinfoil hat conpiracionist, a more likely one would be that they wanted to practice in case they need to launch a recue operation like this for the military later on so stopping the search early wouldn'thave allowed for that. But honestly, an even more likely scenrio through all this that is not nearly as exciting: This is just how the Coast Guard operates. Even if an implosion was heard, the specifics of the vessel weren't known fullly. This was essentially a backyard project from the nutjob CEO, and he refused to submit the vessel design to the appropriate testing procedures. So maybe it was something else that caused the sound, maybe just one of their airtanks and not the actual main cabin. Even if the chances were now very low, the fact is, it wasn't 0. The Coast Guard is just known for going through incredible lengths to save lives. There are hundreds of videos of them recuing people in the worst conditons possible at sea.

@thevictoryoverhimself7298

Жыл бұрын

@@gredystar8333 there is no rescue submarine on earth that operates at that depth and even if there was, it doesn’t have a universal docking port that would be needed to use it. The submarine is basically assembled around its occupants like an early 60s spacecraft. The deepest submarine-to-submarine rescue in history was at 1,600 feet. The seafloor around the titanic is at 12,500 feet. The moment they sank at that depth no rescue was possible, unless they were out of control floating on the surface. There also isn’t some kind of crane game rescue claw that could grab them from the sea floor

I think the most tragic part of this is how one of the victims is someone who was hesitant to going there but he went anyways to make his dad happy and they both died.

I think the issue is that around the globe you have people really being hit hard by wage stagnation, access to health resources, lack of affordable housing, etc, and you have these obscenely wealthy individuals playing sea diver on a weekday getting scores of media coverage while 700 migrants drowned

@connorradcliffe1769

Жыл бұрын

yep, people are getting sick and tired of struggling to survive while the rich get by easily and constantly rub the wealth imbalance in their faces with stupid expeditions like this

@heinoustentacles5719

Жыл бұрын

the media sells stories just as much as the movies do. The submarine story had a 'morality play' feeling to it that was very enticing.

@lesterantenor1026

Жыл бұрын

Still doesn't justify the fact that people are so glad to hear that a group of rich dudes died on this incident.

@maximelius

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about migrants drowning tho

@kyo_qi

Жыл бұрын

@@maximeliusI care?

I watched a documentary about the Thai cave situation and as far as I remember that group of kids went with their coach to specifically explore the cave since it's a local attraction. They must have been already quite deep in and then weather changed suddenly and some parts started filling up with water so they tried to escape the water and their only choice was to go deeper ABOVE the water level. That's why they got trapped. And the rescue mission was HUGE, local military & services tried to get them out but they couldn't. Only way was through the cave itself. They were constantly pumping out water but more rain didn't help. The two divers (British & Australian dudes) that took the task weren't just "randomly" there, they heard what happened cause even the local government asked for international help I think, so they decided to help. They literally had to guide a team of local Navy Seals equivalent to be able to pull this all off. One of the soldiers unfortunately died during the rescue because of an accident occuring, that's how difficult the whole mission was. It was a miracle that all the kids and the coach survived in the cave for this long.

I think its a combination of things, one they were very rich people who willingly paid 250k per person to go into that death trap. So definitely made people even more unhinged than usual.

@aundying3606

Жыл бұрын

they're not "very rich", 250k per person is pretty damn cheap by the industry standard, the whole thing is cheap, which is why the submarine itself is also cheap and didn't have any regulatory bodies, they're well-off people who want to have "very rich" experience but you're probably right that they were unhinged.

@gamerguy6990

Жыл бұрын

@@aundying3606 Pretty sure they had regulations to follow, but fired the guy who told them they were breaking them. Also if someone can spend 250,000$ for a trip, that persons rich, that’s the price of a shitty house which most people still can’t afford.

@nyhomi8463

Жыл бұрын

@@aundying3606 two were billionaires

@RexZShadow

Жыл бұрын

@@aundying3606 Dude they were literal millionaire and billionaire in there. Not some random silicon valley software engineer making like 300k-400k a year. Do they need to be trillionaire to be considered rich?

@aundying3606

Жыл бұрын

2 were billionaires, and that's about it, and that wasn't even the main point, they're not unhinged for "willingly paid 250k per person" they're unhinged because they were willing to enter the sub that "cheap"

"How did the Titanic submarine even work??" Judging from the fact that it sunk, it clearly didn't.

The reactions for this whole thing are more normal than you'd think. For example, there was an account recompiling news and opinion pieces at the time when the Titanic happened, with examples such as: "it's so nice that they spended so much for a ballroom for the fish" and things like that. So we can see that this behavior is, in fact, not new and that we are closer to our ancestors than we would think. P.s. Also, the Internet Historian's video of "Man in Cave" exemplifies really well how people and news cycle takes attention during times of tragedies.

5:43 connor actually has a good take. If people are generally unhappy, they are less inclined to be empathetic to people more well off than them. My source is I made it the fuck up, btw.

@thomasdeguzman1149

Жыл бұрын

More well off is an understatement. Capitalism has fucked over too many people for them to care about billionaires with more money than common sense.

@torinodeguzman4243

Жыл бұрын

And don't forget envy. Envy easily turns into hatard

@neociber24

Жыл бұрын

I mean, do we remember the time when people look down "influencers" because they made a lot of money? Still happen

@potatortheomnipotentspud

Жыл бұрын

​@@neociber24Influencers are cringe anyway

@luisiana1121

Жыл бұрын

"Screw the rich" jokes aside it's honestly disturbing how most people online seem to celebrate those people dying only because they have more wealth than others. This isn't even mentioning that their voyage was foolish at best.

As soon as I heard about the controller to control it that was used I already had a bad feeling about it condolences to the families tho

@bclxprss

Жыл бұрын

The controller by itself was actually fine. The US military uses those for drone controllers as their recruits are already familiar with it and Sony/MS have already put a lot of effort already into its design. The bigger issue with it is that it's the wireless versions of those controllers, so any signal interference will cause the controls to drop, which isn't something you want to happen when you're several kilometers below the ocean surface

@bladez2028

Жыл бұрын

@@bclxprssreally now? How interesting

@Bob-nc5hz

Жыл бұрын

@@bclxprss it was a modified logitech F710, not a Sony or MS one. And there's a bit of a difference between controlling a drone (which is just hardware) and controlling the lives of several people.

@Gamesmarts194

Жыл бұрын

@@bclxprssThis was actually my EXACT thought when I heard about the news. That and possibly that it was one controller that probably had to do multiple things that you couldn’t feasibly put on a controller (though I don’t know how complex a submarine console is so it could be more feasible… minus the wireless bit.)

@bladez2028

Жыл бұрын

These replies are actually very informing usually don’t see that

Calling it a Submarine, is like calling a 'Scooter' a 'Motorcycle'... it's called A 'submersible', it's nowhere near as badass and capable as a submarine.

Not surprised that Conner had a feeling in his balls

It's not just "they're rich" it's the 750 migrants who were actively left to die A WEEK EARLIER when the Greek coast guard knew where they were and how much effort was spent to save 5 people by comparison, and how much media covered 5 people to the expense of 750.

@ankansenapati3600

Жыл бұрын

Lol illigal immigrants

@luccan

Жыл бұрын

100% nailed it

@zaleost

Жыл бұрын

The unfortunate truth is that most media companies were fare more interested in the story because it was a unique and rare occurrence while migrant boats trying to cross a larger body of water and sinking in the process has been through the new cycles multiple times over years to the point where its no longer a major headline. Probably one another rather despicable thing about the whole affair though is that although it hadn't been fully confirmed by then, once the story had broken worldwide all of the passengers were almost certainly already dead and these media and news agency were likely aware of this. But chose to heavily play up the possibility that they might still be alive and could be saved in order to try and get people hooked on their coverage.

@potatortheomnipotentspud

Жыл бұрын

​@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ecAh, so that's why he ganked more people than the fucking Nazis. 💀

@altinopop6664

Жыл бұрын

To be fair the greeks proposed to help them but they wanted to reach italy. And for the media coverage one words explains it : hype.

My friends hadn't kept up with the submarine thing and unknowingly went to a world labeled "Titan" in VRChat. It was a meme about going down in that sub.

I'd say "Eat the rich", but it seems like the fish beat us to it.

@leviathan6071

Жыл бұрын

Oh that’s good haha.

@LoLo25A

Жыл бұрын

So ur jealous of rich ppl gotcha

@bonixohd3424

Жыл бұрын

See, now that's a dark humor joke. All those twitter crybabies that say jokes like these are "too far" should stay off the internet.

@LoLo25A

Жыл бұрын

@@bonixohd3424 it's a dumb joke. It's not even new or clever.

@emiliano7937

Жыл бұрын

​@LoLo25k why are you so upset?

I 100% understand (and relate to) not feeling sympathetic -- the Darwin Awards are a thing, after all -- but the people _actively wishing they would die_ creep me out. It often comes with a bit of hypocrisy too

Events like this just make me realize how bonkers insane our societies have gotten

i never heard of the thai case, but i got curios and the 33 miner were 700m deep. oh god the kids werent in a mine so they were really lost in the cave

Seeing the engineering side of YT rip the entire design of the sub to shreds, I still can't believe that they let that sub go. Before the final dive there was already signs that it won't be able to handle the pressures of the trip. It's fucking surreal.

While this is not what happened(thankfully) the news and people in general made a show out of the possibility of some people trapped in a metal cage with no food, in darkness and in an oxygen countdown for days. Watching reactions made me realize how little ppl know of how the pressure works that deep and how the human mind works and what it turns to in those conditions. I still cope that its because of this that they behaved like that lol

@zaleost

Жыл бұрын

I would say its very likely that on some level a lot of the news producers knew that all of them were probably already dead, but deliberately chose to play up the very remote possibility that they might be alive to keep the news cycle going as long as possible and get as many views out of it as they could.

@mahe7744

Жыл бұрын

@@zaleost i mean yeah, lots of ppl knew they were already dead or that there was no chance of saving them, that only makes it worse though.

@ploobnoob3966

Жыл бұрын

I believed the oxygen timer but that was cause i thought the sub was built by proper engineers meant for research(i also didnt know just how deep the titanic was) But once i knew it was made out of papier-mâché meant for billionaires i realized they probably didnt even get to see it

I sometimes forgot that the trio are STEM graduates

What really kills me about this whole situation is the fact that when ultrawealthy people go missing, numerous countries coordinate and bring their best people and equipment to make the greatest effort possible to rescue them. Meanwhile at the exact same time a migrant boat with dozens of people sank and got nowhere even close to the same media coverage and no great effort was undertaken to save them. Even beyond the double standard, just think about how ridiculous it is that society is apparently willing to waste millions in taxpayer money to try to save rich people who took an extremely ill-advised and dangerous luxury trip and yet most countries leave much to be desired when it comes to helping their citizens meet basic needs.

@misot90

Жыл бұрын

To be brutally honest, it's all about Return of Investment. Save a few ultra wealthy people, and they might just be obligated to do business with your country bringing along a lot of money. Immigrants on the other hand? At best, you get a few more low wage jobs filled in that nobody of your regular citizens want. At worst, you're increasing your crime rate while those same migrants leech on welfare checks that your legitimate disadvantaged citizens should have gotten and you can't deport them back because that would be racist.

@acceptablecasualty5319

Жыл бұрын

Well, that, and migrant boats tend to lack: -Transponders -Radios -Trained Personnel -Emergency Procedures -Voyage Records -Emergency Equipment

@heinoustentacles5719

Жыл бұрын

part of it is probably the fact that the submarine was tied to a larger story; the Titanic, which gave it a certain grand irony that was missing from the migrant story. The news sells 'stories', remember?

@kiretan8599

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm, the thai cave rescued kids were rich as fuck.

@nico-v113

Жыл бұрын

I mean we got it got no media coverage because it’s not interesting (to make it blatantly cold). Terrible things happen in the world ALL the time. Things like the submarine and the circumstances that happened with it are SUPER rare in comparison. It’s definitely a matter of what sparks the public’s interest. As shitty as it sounds, the lives of of some immigrants being smuggled on a boat that sunk because of the sheer amount of people in it is simply not as interesting as “billionaires die in PlayStation controlled submarine visiting the Titanic”. Like come on. You NEVER hear that. On the other hand illegal immigrants dying is not uncommon.

Hey guys, you didn't hear of the time 33 miners got trapped inside a mine here in Chile for I don't know how many days? I mean, they even made a movie out of it (don't watch it, just go watch the news) and we were all just hoping they'll be alive and when they finally could communicate with the outside world, the process of waiting to see how they were going to manage to get them out was stressful AF

The Thai cave story is harrowing. I don’t know how they managed that rescue. I mean I know but it was truly amazing they pulled it off.

I’m currently in a class called spill & emergency response as a environmental technology student and we had to create our own response plans for a situations like this! The first thing was that the company didn’t have a response plan which is technically mandatory nowadays. Due to this response efforts were delayed and the one they did have wasn’t updated/had proper information. Plus the coverage of the event was kind of cool to see in real time and now it’s going to be a case study now 😂

Even work? Mate, it didn't.

@Bob-nc5hz

Жыл бұрын

It did work right until it didn't, though even when it did it kinda didn't: there were multiple dives in 2021 and 2022 but also a variety of technical malfunctions, some of which cancelled dives, one of which kept the passengers stuck at the bottom (and not even near the titanic) for 5 hours.

Ancient Roman nobleman: Coliseum tickets aren't selling well anymore, nobody is gambling on the matches. My own son doesn't idolize the local arena champion and strive to be like him when he is older. Rome has fallen Garnt: people are shitting on the people trapped in a sub, they're even placing bets! Dystopia! G

Anonymity and distance changed how people talk about others, if you made a mean comment about a tragedy to a friend or family you'd have to gauge how far you can go based on your relationship, but nowadays you can just talk shit and leave for others to deal with it, or rake in the replies

"How did the Titanic submarine even work?" It's very clear that it didn't

honestly i think many people genuinely think at the end of the day they will be rescued so they meme it

I remember scolling through tiktok seeing video after video of people talking about the sub

Ain't nobody else getting Bioshock vibes,here?

I think someone already mentioned it in the comments, but the Thai Cave event is sooooo different from the Submarine situation. Like, the cave event was completely accidental and I can assume by the time they realized there was water filling the cave, that I think is open to the public, there was no way to get back, right? But the Submarine situation was like walking into a landmine and thinking you'd live when clearly, you wouldn't. It was a deathtrap the moment they suggested the idea of it until the very end, when it was finally built. So it's hard to fill bad for a bunch of rich dudes who literally built their own death machine (aside the teen, I feel awful for him) and it's hard to feel sympathetic for them. Especially considering the situation about 700ish immigrants lost at sea, I haven't fully read up on that, but I know they were supposedly left to die and I didn't hear about that situation UNTIL the Submarine because obviously, people were upset the world cared so much for these dumb rich dudes. So, in this case? Definitely eat the rich.

@ellusiv5121

Жыл бұрын

They’re comparing how morbid events are being treated like a trending movie online in the modern era not on how or why it happened. And yeah, kids getting trapped vs rich people doing stupid shit is different.

crazy how having 5 guys in a submarine that becomes a disaster is a jojos reference

There are two reactions to Titanic sub Thoughts and prayers and ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!

the Navy knew from the gitgo that the sub was lost and everyone had died. Waste of time and money if they only stepped up and told folks. Navy caught the soundwaves of the sub being crushed on sonar.

@SmackcrackIV

Жыл бұрын

I mean it was just highly likely that the sound they heard was the titan imploding, but despite the right time, sound makes sense and everything, they couldn’t be 100% sure. Better to only release that info once the wreckage was found and everything confirmed.

1:40 from some research, it was deduced that the submarine didn’t actually Immediately exploded, in fact a micro leak stream inside the sub jetting water at a high velocity that could cut bone but not the material, filling the inside slowly compressing the air slowly becoming poisonous to breath from the concentrated oxygen and nitrogen as its filling inside, and the water would be fill up the sub inside with a different atmospheric pressure for each level of cubic meter developing a different atmospheric pressure to attempting to equalize the volume of pressure, and then it would expelled the inside of the submarine outside because the sub ratio of atmosphere wasn’t enough and highly likely exploded outside the window area because it is a weaker adhesive, however the according to some transcripts and documents the implosion was not instantaneous but the conclusion of the mess, because the coms broke down, and timeframe

gurnt learns we live in a society

I wonder if it'd be worse if everyone was meming on these submersible guys for being dead, only for them to survive and see everyone clown on them.

I think Connor hit the nail right on the head. Things are so bad right now that people are less empathetic towards rich people, especially since billionaires are bad for society and people really hate people who have a lot of money. There's also a weird sense of victim blaming going on here, where we're blaming the guys who died on the sub. If you were to go skydiving and there was a parachute malfunction, the first reaction shouldn't be "well, that person shouldn't have gone skydiving"

anyone who goes down a sub with a logitec controller and looks like that. knows the risks.

Thats the neat thing. It didnt.

@pax6833

Жыл бұрын

It did. That's the problem. It worked like 5 times but Carbon fiber takes small amounts of damage each time. So they got lulled into a false sense of security.

Youd be surprised with how many people just trust people like that

i think the reason people did not care, was it was rich people who skimped out on safety and skimped out on testing and put themselves in danger simply by wanting to save money. They did it to themselves so people dont have sympathy.

It was a wired event

If anybody ever saw the movie, don’t look up this is exactly what the movie was about. Human beings will make memes about death until they die as well.. 💀

Damb bro thats crazy

I wonder if they heard the diss track

They PAID 250k for the worst death possible, of course we're gonna laugh

If you put people life's on a timer people will watch out of morbid curiosity. I'm sure if you had a live streamed a dark net link that couldn't get taken down of someone getting tortured people would turn in still, people are gross it when they are curious

Before watching the clip and responding solely to the title: Clearly it didn't.

To answer the title.... It didn't

they died by their own hubris, they paid 250k to go in a submersible, not a sub because to be a submarine you have to pass regulations and the company was open nah fuck that and just any regulations in general . the fact CEO was in the mit of seeing a whistle blowere for say ay yo this thing is a death trap made out of carbon fiber and plexi glass not suitable to handle the pressure that is the ocean floor is varry telling . or add the fact the thing had a malfunction beforehand about the rutters being installed wrong and their fix was holding the controller sideways. add all of it together thy ran past so meany red flag because they thought nothing bad could happen to them the only one who should have any remores over was the kid who did not want to go but the father made him because fathers day. then you add that most of the world is just fedup with the rich

@kotorandcorvid4968

Жыл бұрын

Waaahhh, wahhhh, rich people bad waaaahhhh

@sabine1285

Жыл бұрын

@@kotorandcorvid4968more like rich people are stupid 😂 they dead now

😂 why your balls😂 Connor!?

With chewed gum and a paperclip 😅

the whole situation was just a shame

eat the rich

Warning!: Stupid people doing stupid things may end fatally

People just hate the rich. The thousands of jokes made on reddit before the tragic news was finally announced was simply horrible and horrendous.

@potatortheomnipotentspud

Жыл бұрын

*Leftoids

This entire thing sounds like something that would be a punchline to a joke in Cyberpunk 2077. But no. Its real.

I mean those were really rich people that went on a vehicle that was blatantly obviously dangerous

"How Did The Titanic Submarine Even Work??" It didn't, that was the problem

@08:28 yep same reaction that I got. If I am a Billionaire I would rathar have made the 1st bigger, stronger, luxurious, comfortable, certified deep sea sub-yatch. Rather than ride that oversized carbon fiber pipe coffin with titanium lining. The other crazy part was their claims that Boeing and NASA helped design this Sub. Although it was now proven false. You should immediately recognize that both Boeing and Nasa never made and was not an expert in making deep sea aquatic vehicles. #FacePalm

It didn't.

It's a bunch of things, but I think both the callousness and the backlash against the callousness springs from the fact that we've all been conditioned to consider billionaires as a different (some think superior) type of human. Gallows humor has always been a thing, and the Titan sub scenario had all the elements for it. But it also had terribly unsympathetic victims, because no one on planet Earth earns a billion dollars through their own labor. It requires the (rather extreme) exploitation of others. So some people (especially on Twitter) are extra primed to be vicious about it--but so what? As they see it, a few words on the internet pales in comparison the misery manufactured as a by-product of amassing billions of dollars. And then the scolds and otherwise well-meaning people tsk-tsk'd about it, because whether or not they actually worship billionaires, some part of us knows that in the world of capitalism, being a billionaire is about as close as you get to being a god and reacting so viciously towards the people on the Titan sub seemed extra unseemly.

@koransumant6270

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Lost you at the god bit, thinking more along the line of reptiles

The entire situation got the way it was because of the profoundly poetic irony. It played out like a fucking Family Guy skit.

Its amazing to me that anyone thought they could make the carbon composite construction work. Because even if it is extremely strong and very lightweight, its basically a proven fact that they are only strong under tension, and fail miserably under compression. The negligence and arrogance of oceangate combined with the fact that a few minutes of research on the company should've told these billionaires that this was a bad idea is what made this such a big deal.

😂 wait until they find out about the actor John malkovitch making a movie that will not be shown in 100 years😂.

The story of the kids and the sub and all of these things are a concerning subject yes... Though the one thing I can't help but notice that Garnt uses "like" a ton in his daily speech, and I have now become self conscious

My bad guys, i accidentally gave my friend josh the go to unleash the deep web into the normal socials

"NASA developed that!" or "aircraft grade" are such overused turns. NASA also developed the ball pen, does not mean you can build a submarine out of it.

Can you imagine if Mr. Beast took that offer and die in that sub. You can imagine the ramifications on KZread if that happens.

the memes weren't just because they were rich, it's because they were stupid, it's like watching Darwin's award contestants do their thing live

It didn't

It's like laughing at a person dumb enough to jump in a lion pen. They were asking for it. RIP that young boy who got pressured into the sub by his father.

It was a submersible, NOT a submarine

Not well

When you actually look into the other people in the sub besides the CEO, you actually see that a couple of them tried to help the world a little bit. Sure, we're not all the displaced cheetahs of India or from Pakistan, but like these people could've done more things if they just didn't go into the sub. One of them could've grown up to do the same things his father did. I feel like people want to imagine that everyone on that sub was the CEO, foolish with way too much money for way too little public contribution, but that's just not true. I kinda wish more people saw that. And this is coming from a person so poor that I don't even know if I can eat everyday.

That's the neat part, it doesn't.

It doesn't. You can MacGyver a lot of things. A Submarine is not one of those

The answer to the title is simply: “It didn’t.”

How Did The Titanic Submarine Even Work?? Simple, it didn't.

The ONLY person I feel bad for is the teenage son of one of the execs who was bullied into going with his dad, when he really didn't want to. Other than that tho...ABSOLUTELY eat the rich, not sad they died.

@wumbojet

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Absolutely. There's only one victim and he was murdered by his father and the CEO

@sonofhades57

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based

@sabine1285

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literally, i only feel bad for the rich kids that were forced into it the teenage son did not deserve that

Think that when trump got covid Twitter had the same energy

Its weird hating others for the amount of money they have, I undestand the reasoning but not empatize with it. How much money should the boys or MrBeast have to be acceptable to hate them? Maybe is because I dont use Twitter but I can't hate people I don't know.

@arqueiroXD

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Its fairly simple. If it reaches Billions you are a problem in the system. MrBeast is not even close to Billions. The thing about one billion is that you need 1000 millions and most people in the world can't eve get close to that. Add the fact that if you this rich for some ""curious"" reason law seen to not fully apply to you. At one Billion you can only have this amount of money by exploiting someone else and then it also adds the dragon hoarding of this money too.

@Abrahamwaffle

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The reason people hate the rich isn’t because of the amount of money they have, but rather because that amount of wealth almost always requires exploitation to take place, having a successful business pretty much necessitates a blatant disregard for the life and humanity of workers (see the recent wga strike and the lenghts execs will go to before just paying even a bit more to the union writers). Mr beast is actually one of the few examples of a millionaire who managed to become incredibly rich without exploiting anyone, by just making money through sponsors/ad revenue he can just make money by helping others or giving it away, that’s cool but he’s very much the exception. It’s hard to feel empathy for people like jeff bezos who lives a perfectly comfortable life when there are amazon workers peeing in bottles in order to keep their jobs, especially when you know that one of those things is a direct result of the other.

It didn't work, thats the problem.

it didn't, that doesn't exist. it's the titan submersible. not like anybody cares

I stopped laughing when they were announced dead.

@nikidelvalle

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I laughed harder.

@kotorandcorvid4968

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​@@nikidelvallethat's what your father said when he left you

@nikidelvalle

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@@kotorandcorvid4968 Nah what he was was way more pathetic.

@sabine1285

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what made you think they would be alive LMAO

A guy in tiktok said that one of the reasons why he felt so ok making jokes about the Titan submarine is because of how many opportunities the four tourist had to not do it and they did it anyway, and I think that's the case for a lot of people too. Because if a billionaire died in a planecrash from a known airlane, or in a car accident, or if they were killed by a derange ex-partner, there would be a lot of people feeling empathy towards the situation because it would be something that could happen to anyone, but the fact that they payed $250.000 to spend 4 hours sitting inside a tuna can with a bucket and a plastic bag acting as bathroom is like "dude! How many more red flags do you need ?!"

The amount of people who were celebrating the deaths was insane.

@pax6833

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kinda tells you how ready society is to eat the rich. people are fed up with the incredible amounts of exploitation.

@ShadowEclipex

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I don't feel bad for anyone but the kid, but celebrating their deaths is gross.

@luisiana1121

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@pax6833 then be fed up by people who exploited them. They don't even personally know the people who died there so why make their deaths an outlet for people's frustration?

@friendlyneighbourhooddegen4739

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No one celebrated their deaths. They were making fun of their stupidity and hubris. Also wanting to go see the Titanic which is a mass grave (of mostly poor people btw) for anything other than research purposes is an asshole thing to do.

@kotorandcorvid4968

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​@@friendlyneighbourhooddegen4739Visiting the Titanic isn't any different from visiting Pompeii or Auschwitz

The people on the sub are tourist. Comparing this to a mine accident is an insult to the mine workers.

I'm not in any way, happy that those folks died (although the memes were pretty fire) but it's hard to reconcile the attention that story got next to, at the same time, a migrant/refugee boat going down off the coast of Greece, on which they were estimating some 700 people, only around 100 of which were rescued. But, at least in the states, most folks probably didn't even hear about it because 5 billionaires (one of whom was the owner and CEO of the company that owned it) in a submersible got obliterated in the blink of an eye. A submersible, which, because irony is dead and hubris is rampant, said owner absolutely refused to submit to any sort of real testing and built with materials that were absolutely substandard for the depths it was to reach. A fact of which he was informed repeatedly and repeatedly blew off. So, yeah. I'm not happy that they died. But they absolutely made this bed and I'm not about to lose sleep over them having to lie in it (with the possible exception of the 19-year-old son who didn't even want to be there in the first place).

Honestly, I think Stockton perishing with the sub is probably THE best thing that could've happened to him. Imagine the apocalyptic shitstorm he would've experienced if some employee piloted the sub and he was on the mothership having a wank or something while it imploded. Maybe he would've been "suicided" with three gunshots to the back of his head if he wouldn't have piloted the sub. Tragic as it is, but come on. Diving 4 km under water only to see the Titanic wreckage and coughing up 250k per head to do so? What a lame use of money, and lame AF way to die. If they'd travelled to low Earth orbit to experience micro gravity or something instead then aight I can definitely see the appeal in that.

man normies eat up the news as is pin everything on the dead guy and thats not suspicious?