How Did the Ancient Romans Make Concrete So Much Better Than Ours?

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  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut8 ай бұрын

    Go to www.drinktrade.com/brainfood and get a free bag of coffee with any subscription.

  • @Rachel_M_

    @Rachel_M_

    8 ай бұрын

    Perhaps You could do a follow up about RAAC 🤔

  • @mikeemmons1079

    @mikeemmons1079

    7 ай бұрын

    If you think that is impressive, you should see what a team of archaeological students from Texas dug up. It may revolutionise how we build everything from sewers to skyscrapers. Google "Waco Compound" for details.

  • @luminatrixfanfiction

    @luminatrixfanfiction

    6 ай бұрын

    It's the volcanic ash. That's the secret for why their concrete is superior to ours today. Back in ancient times, there were some active volcanoes of the era.

  • @darlenefraser3022
    @darlenefraser30228 ай бұрын

    “What have the Romans ever done for us?” LOVE that last line and Monty Python nod!

  • @tacticaljuice5271

    @tacticaljuice5271

    8 ай бұрын

    He’s not the messiah, he’s a very very naughty boy

  • @Labyrinth6000

    @Labyrinth6000

    8 ай бұрын

    Same here! Replace “Romans” with “Europeans” and you have what the Native Americans, Africans, and Asians would be asking today.

  • @darlenefraser3022

    @darlenefraser3022

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Labyrinth6000 Wow! Yes, you absolutely nailed it.

  • @brycearell9262

    @brycearell9262

    8 ай бұрын

    "right well apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the ROMANS done for US?" "well, they brought peace." "SHUT UP"

  • @TheRealSpencerMarks

    @TheRealSpencerMarks

    8 ай бұрын

    @@brycearell9262Great scene! 🤣

  • @LibertyPanacea
    @LibertyPanacea8 ай бұрын

    Yet another example of why we think about the Roman Empire regularly!

  • @nickrigopoulos589

    @nickrigopoulos589

    8 ай бұрын

    ha, multiple times per week apparently

  • @esense9602

    @esense9602

    8 ай бұрын

    I am trying my urge to stop myself searching "Rome" in my phone.

  • @JoshuaTootell

    @JoshuaTootell

    8 ай бұрын

    Wondering if the History of Rome podcast is going to get a resurgence.

  • @peterlyall2848

    @peterlyall2848

    8 ай бұрын

    Lib

  • @peterlyall2848

    @peterlyall2848

    8 ай бұрын

    I need more concrete evidence that Romans built the best and longest lasting concrete

  • @badjer4328
    @badjer43288 ай бұрын

    I grew up in the coal mining heart Carbon County, Utah. In our rural double wide trailer on 2 acres of clay ground. We had a coal stove that heated the house, a standard truck bed of coal went for $50-$100 in the 90's and was enough to heat the house all winter. We used to pile the coal ash on the side of the property, but I noticed the pile of ash was surprisingly sturdy compared to the sloppy messy wet clay surrounding dirt when wet from the snow and rain. So from that point on I spread the ash over the dirt driveway. Over the years the driveway became harder and less sloppy muddy when wet, almost like concrete.

  • @Mello.

    @Mello.

    8 ай бұрын

    Thats incredibly cool

  • @samsmom1491

    @samsmom1491

    8 ай бұрын

    I would stop spreading the coal ash, especially since you've been doing it for years. Coal ash contains at least 17 toxic heavy metals and pollutants including lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium, and selenium, all of which can endanger human health, and at least six neurotoxins and five known or suspected carcinogens. Short-term exposure can bring irritation of the nose and throat, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, and shortness of breath. Long-term exposure can lead to liver damage, kidney damage, cardiac arrhythmia, and a variety of cancers.

  • @ILikeMyPrivacytbt

    @ILikeMyPrivacytbt

    8 ай бұрын

    That sounds like it would work but I worry about the health costs of living with coal ash.

  • @titmusspaultpaul5

    @titmusspaultpaul5

    8 ай бұрын

    Well done.

  • @ahowl7mx

    @ahowl7mx

    7 ай бұрын

    Have a charcoal grill. If you pour the ash onto the ground, it starts turning into concrete over time. Not great for mulch but an interesting observation.

  • @carsonm7292
    @carsonm72928 ай бұрын

    I was so excited when I saw a few years ago that they finally figured out the secret to Roman concrete-mainly just because I kind of assumed that it would be a mystery forever, and then to find out that it was actually really simple and easy to replicate. There's an argument to be made that these structures that have long outlasted their purpose are overengineered, but I think that attitude is dismissive to the potential applications that figuring this out may have in modern construction that's exposed to water. Yes it's not as physically strong, but if it's strong enough and much lower maintenance, we should use it.

  • @ericgigliotti2632

    @ericgigliotti2632

    8 ай бұрын

    Roman projects are considered over-engineered only through a modern lens. We build everything to be as cheap as possible, using as little material as possible. So in that regard, everything they made is over-engineered. Engineers put rebar in all their projects not because it's necessary for strength, but because it's significantly cheaper to achieve the desired strength. It is absolutely possible to design concrete structures without rebar, we just don't do it. Rebar compromises concrete from within.

  • @pikachuchujelly7628

    @pikachuchujelly7628

    8 ай бұрын

    What about making the core of the structure out of modern concrete for its strength, then covering it with a layer of corrosion resistant Roman concrete.

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    8 ай бұрын

    If it took thousands of years to figure out. It wasn’t simple stfu

  • @timengineman2nd714

    @timengineman2nd714

    8 ай бұрын

    Another issue of duration is that (modern) concrete slowly dissolves Steel! Hence you got rusty rebar in every thing more than a few years old!! Lifetime, depending on the environment and various other factors is 150 years maximum and often less than 100 years for Modern Concrete!!

  • @SonsOfLorgar

    @SonsOfLorgar

    8 ай бұрын

    The thing is, while easy to replicate once the composition is known, the tools to find out and analyse that exact composition from solid chunk samples was not availiable until the mid 1980ies...

  • @mrsoggyramen9596
    @mrsoggyramen95968 ай бұрын

    Another day where I’ve thought about the Roman Empire.

  • @Bill_N_ATX
    @Bill_N_ATX8 ай бұрын

    Fly ash is a fairly common additive to concrete today depending on exactly what it’s being used for. Modern concrete can be a very sophisticated mixture of chemicals, including things like plasticizers that reduce the amount of water needed to mix, pour, and smooth the concrete. As noted in the video, additional water beyond the minimum tends to reduce the strength of concrete. But as noted in the video, we are still learning things from the Romans. They were brilliant in many areas and idiots in others. We serve ourselves well to study both.

  • @actionjksn

    @actionjksn

    7 ай бұрын

    I've seen a lot of guys who request the concrete mixed very loose. They like a lot of water in it for the sole purpose of making it easier to work with and increase the work time. Obviously more water is not good for the integrity of the concrete. The Hoover dam was made with a very dry mix of concrete and it is still getting stronger after over 100 years.

  • @Doubie.

    @Doubie.

    7 ай бұрын

    Well yes and no there’s taking the time and effort to use water at the right times and to wet cure it witch almost no one does

  • @cj.wijtmans

    @cj.wijtmans

    6 ай бұрын

    Romans mostly copied the greeks and other european cultures. Made some improvements here and there. I would say the greatest feat of the romans was capitalization through the temple of saturn.

  • @chrisnelson3884
    @chrisnelson38848 ай бұрын

    Imagine all the knowledge lost over time. Not just ancient technologies like roman concrete and greek fire but all the literature, poetry and philosophical teachings that burned in the library of Alexandria. How far were we set back by that? Centuries? Millenia? We'll never know.

  • @dragon12234

    @dragon12234

    8 ай бұрын

    Eh, the Library of Alexandria is a bit overrated, especially with how it was at the time it finally shut down. By that time it had long been in decline thanks to the rise of other large insitutions of learning in the region, as it was no longer The Place to go to learn

  • @machupikachu1085

    @machupikachu1085

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dragon12234 Finally! Someone who was actually there when it happened!

  • @KYSMO

    @KYSMO

    8 ай бұрын

    @@machupikachu1085 one does not have to have witnessed something personally to know of it, material evidence exists.

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    The library of Alexandria being some long lost fountain of knowledge and wisdom is just as bad of a modern myth as that of Nikola Tesla's exploits vs the reality of his life. The truth is that the LoA would have been vastly more oriented towards TRADE records than any other source of written material. Alexandria was a trade city - a harbour for ships and a place where land caravans would pass through on a circuit around the north coast of Africa, up the coast of Canaan and west along the south coast of Europe. Because of this they would have mostly got shipping and caravan manifests. That's not to say that such information does not have power all by itself, but it's not the secrets of the ancients in any way that you want it to be either.

  • @Joe-xo4yg

    @Joe-xo4yg

    7 ай бұрын

    @@machupikachu1085 😂😂 Thx bro

  • @dherrendoerfer
    @dherrendoerfer8 ай бұрын

    In northern Italy, in the mountains, the olive garden walls are still built and repaired using the old ways - they still add rough stones, caulk stone, hot ash to portland premix, and pour it almost dry. The old men say it takes a month for the terraces to harden, and millennia for them to crumble. Roman cement was never really forgotten by the old, there was just this cheap alternative.

  • @windhelmguard5295

    @windhelmguard5295

    8 ай бұрын

    interestingly east Germans working on private projects also use bigger aggregate, like rocks found on the fields (or from the dirt they excavated before making the foundation), smashed bricks, and other things. this mainly started as a way to keep cost down, by subtly getting rid of garbage which would have been expensive to get rid off and reducing the amount of cement needed, but the benefits have not been lost on us.

  • @longiusaescius2537

    @longiusaescius2537

    8 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @TwinShards
    @TwinShards8 ай бұрын

    *In colder region, imagine an asphalt that is self-healing and instead of creating bigger and bigger pothhole, the cracks just never happen. Every non-greedy city/companies would start using this mixture.

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    Asphalt is not concrete. It's very nature as a traction material for automobiles makes it more prone to erosion over time. The best you can do is slow it down by mandating lighter vehicles - given EVs are going to make cars significantly heavier (in the short term) that isn't likely to happen soon.

  • @tpl608
    @tpl6088 ай бұрын

    They used an ash from a volcano that set it quickly. It even set quickly under sea water. The salt water even made harder. They broke the code of the concrete a few years ago. As to the done, they made it lighter and lighter as it went toward the center by tossing in clay pottery and straw.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    Bingo ^ For those wondering that volcano is called Campi Flegrei, in the Bay of Naples. A Volcano with a highly active hydrothermal system that provides the conditions to almost instantly mix the ash with needed materials. I'll give them credit in the sense they managed to find a solution that not only worked but has held out very well for them. However, to say it didn't require an insane amount of luck and however many bodies the roman's were willing to throw at, would be a complete lie.

  • @deathninja16

    @deathninja16

    6 ай бұрын

    You also forgot about the addition of quick lime.

  • @MrDDiRusso
    @MrDDiRusso8 ай бұрын

    How often does Simon think about the Roman Empire?

  • @Ventus_the_Heathen

    @Ventus_the_Heathen

    8 ай бұрын

    Never. He lets it go in the eyes and out the mouth hahaha

  • @shopshop144

    @shopshop144

    8 ай бұрын

    Whenever his writers tell him to.

  • @cleverusername9369

    @cleverusername9369

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @cleverusername9369

    @cleverusername9369

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@shopshop144I'm quite certain he has a hand in picking topics to present, at least some of the time, he's said he's asked writers to produce scripts based on his own ideas

  • @MorganHorse

    @MorganHorse

    8 ай бұрын

    I knew this comment would be here. As soon as that meme started I thought of all the goddamn Rome videos he’s done.

  • @jonadabtheunsightly
    @jonadabtheunsightly8 ай бұрын

    Short answer: they didn't have to deal with modern priorities and the resulting budget constraints. If you want to build stuff that will last for thousands of years, like the Romans did, you theoretically can, in the sense that we know the underlying physics of how to do it. But it changes the nature of the project, considerably. Among other things, you can't use steel reinforcing wire in your concrete if you want it to last that long, because steel encased in concrete corrodes over time. Without reinforcing wire to bear tension, you have to build compression-supported structures (like classical arches), and you can't build tension-supported structures (like a flat rectangular bridge held up by a few small pillars spaced far apart). This greatly increases the total amount of concrete you need, which increases your costs for materials and labor, as well as the timetable for the project. On top of that, it places a lot more load on the ground underneath, which greatly increases the amount of soil and subsoil that you have to dig out and replace with something less compressible (like concrete or stone). Now your foundation is also ten times as heavy-duty as it would have been, so add up more materials, labor, and time for all of that. Perhaps you can see where this is going. When all is said and done, you've taken an two-year project and turned it into a multi-decade project, and the cost has ballooned correspondingly. If you want to do that sort of thing in the public sector, you need thirty-year terms of office, which are (for very good reasons) not common in the developed world. And if you want to do it in the private sector, all your funding has to come from sources that share your build-for-the-ages vision, which instantly rules out shareholders and venture capital. We don't build like that these days, because leaders with a god complex who want a monument to their administration that will last for thousands of years, tend to get voted out or overthrown.

  • @jaysmith1408

    @jaysmith1408

    8 ай бұрын

    But two year projects already balloon into multi decade projects with costs increasing accordingly. -cries in Indianapolis

  • @forestwells5820

    @forestwells5820

    8 ай бұрын

    Pay a lot now, pay next to nothing for decades. I think it's time we reevaluate our math. It looks good at first when we can build a bridge for "just" 10 million dollars. But they we have to spend 200,000 every year to maintain it, and have to replace it in 20-50 years. Or, we could spend 50 million to build, which okay, ouch, but then we pay like 10,000 a year to maintain it, if not less, and never have to replace it.

  • @pikachuchujelly7628

    @pikachuchujelly7628

    8 ай бұрын

    Cries in California. I want high speed rail 5 years ago.

  • @jonadabtheunsightly

    @jonadabtheunsightly

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jaysmith1408 Ok, but do you really want to make that ten times worse?

  • @jonadabtheunsightly

    @jonadabtheunsightly

    8 ай бұрын

    @@forestwells5820 Your figures are a bit off. Building in the Roman fashion, you can't build that $10 million bridge for $50 million. You can't build it for $100 million either. $500 million, maybe. Also it will take about twenty times as long to build as the $10 million version, which is probably the larger problem. Modern people get impatient waiting two minutes for a microwave oven to warm up a plate of food. They don't want to hear "This bridge will end up being better, so just be patient while we take twenty times as long building it. Sure, you'll be retired by then and won't need to drive to work over the bridge any more, but you can just suffer through going the long way around for your whole life so that your grandchildren can inherit a masterwork bridge. It'll be great." There's going to be an election at some point, and the geniuses who pushed for the build-for-the-ages project will likely be out of office, and their successors will scrap it and build the $10 million bridge that can be done in three years.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena8 ай бұрын

    This is why history and chemistry are important for architects and engineers

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    Well that and biology. Nature is an unending source of inspiration for advancement in many fields of science and engineering. Chacnes are high in more than half a billion years of evolution can wild that natural selection has provided a solution to most problems. Case in point the coming optics revolution of metalenses based on a new field of research stemming from discoveries about the way light interacts with the wings of a buttefly.

  • @therakshasan8547
    @therakshasan85478 ай бұрын

    During the late 19040's thru 1960's the US build Nuclear Bomb shelters in government building , hospitals, and the like. That concrete is the strongest , hardest , and virtually undamageable material ever made from a mix. I would like to see a video/documentary on the making of that concrete . And I wonder why all structures are not made from it?

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    8 ай бұрын

    Spread less propaganda

  • @atodaso1668

    @atodaso1668

    8 ай бұрын

    That's why the old missile silos are cracked and full of water?

  • @TheTachmeter

    @TheTachmeter

    8 ай бұрын

    @@atodaso1668they said bomb shelters not missile silos.

  • @atodaso1668

    @atodaso1668

    8 ай бұрын

    Ah yeah Im sure they used weaker concrete on missle silos and stronger on government building bomb shelters...@@TheTachmeter

  • @Matt-yg8ub

    @Matt-yg8ub

    8 ай бұрын

    @@atodaso1668No, that’s because the old silos weren’t water tight and ground water seeped in over time. The walls themselves are virtually unbreakable.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um8 ай бұрын

    Because of its unusual durability, longevity and lessened environmental footprint, corporations and municipalities are starting to explore use of Roman-style concrete North America.

  • @bedhead4728

    @bedhead4728

    8 ай бұрын

    Does it release less CO2?

  • @Rustyknife1

    @Rustyknife1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@bedhead4728who gives a shit

  • @cj.wijtmans

    @cj.wijtmans

    6 ай бұрын

    Co2 is not harmful to the environment.

  • @erinmorash9334

    @erinmorash9334

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@cj.wijtmans Is water harmful when you're drowning?

  • @cj.wijtmans

    @cj.wijtmans

    2 ай бұрын

    Co2 is not harmful to HUMANS until 2000ppm, go back and read your stupid comment now. @@erinmorash9334

  • @xXxKAMIKAZExXx
    @xXxKAMIKAZExXx8 ай бұрын

    Older buildings look so much nicer than modern ones. Amazing how they could make such beautiful designs without the technology we have today.

  • @pikachuchujelly7628

    @pikachuchujelly7628

    8 ай бұрын

    Architecture seems like a lost art today. Just about all I see being built today is plain concrete boxes for commercial buildings and residential areas with the same stucco house repeated over and over again.

  • @seanmckelvey6618

    @seanmckelvey6618

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably because they actually cared what their buildings and cities looked like, instead of today when all that the powers that be care about is the bottom line. Who cares if it looks like shit, it's cheap.

  • @JustinWillisDevil240Z

    @JustinWillisDevil240Z

    8 ай бұрын

    difference between an artisan and a builder.

  • @cleverusername9369

    @cleverusername9369

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't fully disagree, but there's still some very beautiful architecture around today that's not necessarily what you'd call ancient. European castles and palaces, American art deco skyscrapers like the Empire State and Chrysler Buildings and Old South plantation houses, the Sidney Opera House, Asian temples and pagodas, Scandinavian stave churches, more bridges than I can name, etc.

  • @the_exegete

    @the_exegete

    8 ай бұрын

    @@pikachuchujelly7628 Most buildings were trash back then too, you just don't know about those because they're long gone.

  • @herbiehusker1889
    @herbiehusker18898 ай бұрын

    There you go thinking about the Roman empire every day. I don't know how women don't think about the Roman empire at least weekly.

  • @cleverusername9369

    @cleverusername9369

    8 ай бұрын

    They do, they just pretend they don't to seem superior.

  • @Rasputinska

    @Rasputinska

    8 ай бұрын

    Maybe we think of the Egyptian empire, a culture and lifestyle that was way less cruel and lasted way longer than the Roman one? I know I do.

  • @Multichar

    @Multichar

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@Rasputinskalol, lmao even

  • @antonbresure1054

    @antonbresure1054

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@RasputinskaThose aer dubious claims.

  • @ABC1701A

    @ABC1701A

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Rasputinska NOT less cruel.

  • @jessaphillips2846
    @jessaphillips28468 ай бұрын

    Because we realized that if we made our concrete that good it would mean less jobs for city employees

  • @Matt-yg8ub

    @Matt-yg8ub

    8 ай бұрын

    No, it’s mainly cost and federal regulations requiring rebar reinforcements

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    That's not the way it works at all. If a city council realised it could save a ton of money on infrastructure maintenance due to longer lasting concrete they would do it in a heart beat. Just look at how much US infrastructure was falling apart and in desperate need of repair or replacement before the big infrastructure bills was passed by the current administration. That shows just how little they want to spend money on these vital things, even to the point of waiting until people are literally dying from it.

  • @eddapultstab2078

    @eddapultstab2078

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@mnomadvfxalso the truth of how Roman concrete functions was only discovered recently. Back in those days, the 30s and 40s, the US government actually cared about building things to last but were limited by the construction techniques and technology of the time. Now a days there's so much special interest, legalized bribery, and lowest bidder nonsense that building to last is literally the last thing in their minds.

  • @joachimkoenen3952
    @joachimkoenen39526 сағат бұрын

    Great research, Admir

  • @martinschulz9381
    @martinschulz93818 ай бұрын

    Before the coming of steel spanning bridges and other structures was very limited and challenging. How the Romans could achieve these things is amazing.

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    The Romans still couldn't do what we can today with bridges. Like the guy said - modern concrete IS stronger, can span greater distances and take more weight. Roman concrete is just more durable long term and better without steel reinforcement than modern concrete without reinforcement (the chemical processes that make Roman concrete so attractivee do not work so well with current reinforcing materials like steel rebar). The trick will be to try and meet somewhere in the middle to get the best of both worlds in one material with reinforcing materials that can stand the higher temperatures of the quick lime reaction.

  • @martinschulz9381

    @martinschulz9381

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mnomadvfx Yes, that’s what I meant to say. Steel changed the world more than most people know. Thanks for the comment.

  • @eddapultstab2078

    @eddapultstab2078

    7 ай бұрын

    They were very determined, like that one time where a general was crossing the Rubicon.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree, but I've also got to point out the only reason that style of building was even remotely viable is because the Roman Empire clearly didn't mind throwing as many bodies as they needed for such a grand scale projects. Nowadays, I seriously doubt that would be easy to do.

  • @martinschulz9381

    @martinschulz9381

    7 ай бұрын

    @@AdamAnouer Thanks for the reply. Yes indeed, workers were expendable. Even later in Medieval times, many lives were lost building Castles and those beautiful churches.

  • @kevinjacob7858
    @kevinjacob78588 ай бұрын

    Almost forgot to think about the Roman Empire today

  • @fulgor9393
    @fulgor93937 ай бұрын

    I like all your videos, but this one was the best !! Both historical and greatly educational. I will be sharing this and discussing it with my brother in law, who builds dams and just built the biggest in Laos which broke the world record for the most concrete poured in a day 6 times in just a few weeks ! He will love this as he is just about to start a new dam in the Philippines. Thanks !

  • @monham5041
    @monham50418 ай бұрын

    Interesting review. Two points. Concrete cures, rather than dries. This is a chemical reaction which also creates heat. Roller Compacted Concrete, or RCC is used in dam construction worldwide. Nothing new there. The ancient Romans were indeed, fine engineers. 👍

  • @PitboyHarmony1
    @PitboyHarmony18 ай бұрын

    Do you even realize, that as you talk about the Pantheon in Rome, at 0:19 you showed images of The Panthéon in the Latin Quarter of Paris ... built in the 1750's? ... ya ... you actually did that.

  • @BTheBlindRef
    @BTheBlindRef8 ай бұрын

    Sounds great except that "1/10th the compressive strength of modern concrete" might be a bit of an issue unless we can find ways to maintain the new benefits while still achieving modern strength standards. Or maybe it will simply have niche uses.

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm assuming it's a combination of the brittle lime clasts and the lack of steel/etc rebar. I'm sure that with additives like small CMC rods and larger scale bars that they could increase it's strength a lot. It wouldn't be cheap though.

  • @Idiodyssey87
    @Idiodyssey878 ай бұрын

    It has been 0 days since I last thought about the Roman Empire.

  • @archonoid2
    @archonoid27 ай бұрын

    IIncredible, well done. All the knowledge, the technology just zipped in 12 minutes video!... Also I think the .75 play speed just invented for us to understand you :) Thanks alot.

  • @user-io9ie5cs8j
    @user-io9ie5cs8j8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for pointing out that in old Latin, C is hard, like K. I remember that from parochial school and seminary. And the secret ingredients for Roman concreta!

  • @_goobs
    @_goobs7 ай бұрын

    I would like to note that the automatic closed caption function accurately captured Simon's pronunciation of 'Utar'

  • @FloozieOne
    @FloozieOne2 ай бұрын

    This is a fascinating episode. The only thing I knew about concrete is how much damage it can do to you both externally and internally if you fall on it or crash into it. Most concrete, primarily outdoor structures, has deliberate inclusions from little pebbles to large stones as big as 2" long. I have always wondered what reason is behind this and what the optimum mix is for any given structure. We constantly conceive of the "ancients" as being more primitive than we are with all our machines and sophisticated chemistry, but I loved your vid on 5 Chinese inventions from ~2,000 years ago without which Western civilization would never have advanced; written pages (invention of paper), seafaring (the compass), irrigation and flood control, (pumps, making rivers navigable) and of course gunpowder.

  • @tpl608
    @tpl6088 ай бұрын

    While everyone needs as revenue, more ads and discussion about ads and ads and ads and discussion of ads than USA network TV. That reaches greedy level

  • @kban77
    @kban778 ай бұрын

    You are the cement that anchors the concrete of youtube

  • @cynicisminc
    @cynicisminc8 ай бұрын

    The Pantheon was originally built by Agrippa, Brain Boi. His name is on the façade. Hadrian completed a reconstruction after a fire.

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken39547 ай бұрын

    I think the biggest reason the Romans developed concrete that would cure underwater and last so long was that they only wanted to build it once. Modern contractors want to insure they have a future so they don't want concrete that last forever, because they would put themselves out of work after about 10 years. Not entirely true but the demand would basically be limited to solely new construction and they would loose all the work they get tearing out old concrete and pouring new concrete.

  • @Isaacmantx
    @Isaacmantx7 ай бұрын

    The use of steel in modern concrete is the number 1 reason for it’s short lived usefulness. The moment the chloride crystals reach the steel, it starts rusting which expands and causes cracking and spalling.

  • @earlycuyler8659

    @earlycuyler8659

    4 ай бұрын

    Actually the alkaline environment "inside concrete" provides steel with corrosion protection.

  • @terryshrk
    @terryshrk8 ай бұрын

    Lived in Rome on a student visa for 6 1/2 years attending AUR ( The American University of Rome) after serving active duty USN in Naples Italy for 4 1/2 years. Had they figured out that there was lead in their drinking water pipes and not reacted so very harshly to monotheism we might've well had the industrial revolution almost a full millennia earlier , via avoiding the "dark ages". We also might all be speaking a modern form of latin and learning "rhetoric" in schools instead of English loL who knows

  • @northumbriabushcraft1208

    @northumbriabushcraft1208

    8 ай бұрын

    Why do you consider the harsh reaction to monotheism something which held the Romans back? After all Christianity coming in force was one of the reasons the Roman empire in the west fell.

  • @ABC1701A

    @ABC1701A

    8 ай бұрын

    Hmmm, lead pipes were commonly in use until around the end of last century, and according to others they are still commonly found in many parts of THE DEVELOPED world even today. Largely because the cost and inconvenience of replacing them means they are left until they HAVE to be replaced. And the amount of lead you imbibe from said lead pipes is also amazingly small according to a programme I was watching on the subject recently. However it is also accumulative and came from more sources than just water pipes.

  • @davidkottman3440

    @davidkottman3440

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@northumbriabushcraft1208 My view would be, because of the internal turmoil caused by religious conflict. Of course they also had economic turmoil, succession & political turmoil, & perennial barbarian problems.

  • @dudermcdudeface3674
    @dudermcdudeface36746 ай бұрын

    There's a huge misunderstanding about Roman concrete. The kind that survived millennia was their _best_ variety. You can have that today and better if you're willing to pay for it. But then, as now, the vast majority of projects wouldn't or couldn't buy that quality.

  • @TK-fk4po
    @TK-fk4po8 ай бұрын

    Brilliant life of Brian quote there at the end

  • @stormbringer_7774
    @stormbringer_77748 ай бұрын

    I really started listening when you mentioned coffee!🤔🙌🇬🇧

  • @nancym5341
    @nancym53412 ай бұрын

    You smart folks probably will not care about this but I am going to post anyway. I lived in New Brunswick on the Atlantic Coast. It was where my Dad’s BFF poured CEMENT for a living. He did this all year round! In that cold & snowy climate. He gave the secret recipe to my Sister who had her contractors license in Massachusetts. She was able to get a basement poured in November by sharing the recipe with her concrete guy. Unfortunately all 3 have passed away and I have no clue what they did to the concrete. FYI Going to Pompeii is on my bucket list!

  • @Jyes12345
    @Jyes123458 ай бұрын

    Its been speculated that Chuck norris' beard is also made of this material.

  • @lestagez
    @lestagez8 ай бұрын

    i’ll sum it up, roman concrete is not strong, but it lasts longer, modern concrete is built to handle the weight of skyscrapers and modern vehicles. also the sea salt in rome helps harden it

  • @LENZ5369
    @LENZ53698 ай бұрын

    Urggg....the real answer is 'by accident' and 'trial and error' -they had little 'chemistry' theory knowledge, they tried stuff and if it worked or was noticeable better than what they had; they kept doing it. Also 'Survivorship bias' (wiki)-"Just as new buildings are being built every day and older structures are constantly torn down, the story of most civil and urban architecture involves a process of constant renewal, renovation, and revolution. Only the most (subjectively, but popularly determined) beautiful, most useful, and most structurally sound buildings survive from one generation to the next. This creates another selection effect where the ugliest and weakest buildings of history have long been eradicated from existence and thus the public view, and so it leaves the visible impression, seemingly correct but factually flawed, that all buildings in the past were both more beautiful and better built." Another thing, though it was a bit vague -they seem to have compared modern reinforced concrete with non reinforced; which are very different animals and have different properties.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    This is honestly kind of true. I'll give them credit in the sense they found a formula that worked and kept on using it but I can't honestly say it was a feat of intelligence as it was pure luck. The fact they managed to source Ash not only from a volcano but a super volcano with a hydrothermal system that would've allowed them to mix and heat that is kind of insane. It also didn't hurt in their case that they were willing throw as many bodies as they needed to get these projects done. Can't help but imagine trying to do this with Ash from any other volcano would take a lot more prep and A LOT more bodies. That said, Volcanic Ash actually seems like a really good material abeit not a practical one.

  • @tysonkrunek4132
    @tysonkrunek41327 ай бұрын

    Limestone not being turned to powder with less power gives their limestone better surface area and binding to each other and the hydration process.

  • @travisinthetrunk
    @travisinthetrunk8 ай бұрын

    The next video should explain why some people have the urge to raise their arm when they’re trying to sleep.

  • @chrishayes6359
    @chrishayes63598 ай бұрын

    Seen a nether video saying they add hey to it as well. Also that sound a lot like aircrete or styrofoamcrete it's got a lot of names but it's concrete mix with foam.

  • @RM-au9mm
    @RM-au9mm8 ай бұрын

    what have the Romans ever done for us...nice touch to finish on...love the Life of Brian reference 😁

  • @alexisdespland4939
    @alexisdespland49398 ай бұрын

    could you power clinker kilms wih electricty or is the teperaure rquires too hot that the elctric wire would melt.

  • @claireconolly8355
    @claireconolly83558 ай бұрын

    Bloody brilliant!!

  • @rjw5663
    @rjw56638 ай бұрын

    Why was I wondering bout this last night , and today a video is up? Serendipitous

  • @stephanielinden8466
    @stephanielinden84668 ай бұрын

    I wonder if the Roman mixture can hold up to the chemicals that get splashed around and on concrete today?

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    It would hold up fine but actually creating big buildings using it is a collosal pain in the ass.

  • @vaclavholek4497
    @vaclavholek44978 ай бұрын

    I picture someone roasting each individual bean with a pair of tweezers and a Bunsen burner. 😂

  • @davidbigmore4764
    @davidbigmore47647 ай бұрын

    Love the monty python reference at the end .. bloody marvellous

  • @greatscott369
    @greatscott3696 ай бұрын

    When cement came along in the 20th century the advantage was a faster setting time than using lime.

  • @carlettoburacco9235
    @carlettoburacco92358 ай бұрын

    .... and today schools and hospitals in UK are about to crumble after 40 years.............

  • @user-pc7kt6kb3p
    @user-pc7kt6kb3p7 ай бұрын

    Pozzolana being what it is, I reckon there is some opportunity for nations with a lot of volcanoes, as that silica is generally found there. If I lived in Japan or on Hawaii for example, I would be looking into that.

  • @Chesterfield.Esquire98
    @Chesterfield.Esquire988 ай бұрын

    As a concrete finisher I love all of this lol

  • @amochswohntet99
    @amochswohntet997 ай бұрын

    Simon is a great speaker, and he’s very literate too. Too many people use the word Why when they should be using the word How.

  • @titmusspaultpaul5
    @titmusspaultpaul58 ай бұрын

    So very interesting. Knowing what we now know, they should make this standard practice for making concrete.

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    Ye but no. There are simply too many current uses for concrete where the Roman recipe would be inadequate to purpose. For somethings it would work fine, but for others you would make even worse problems from concrete that just can't take the same weight over it from 10x lower compressive strength. Those lime clasts are brittle and decrease the overall strength of it vs modern portland cement based concrete.

  • @AskAScreenwriter
    @AskAScreenwriter8 ай бұрын

    Love the Monty Python reference at the end!

  • @TOTV13
    @TOTV138 ай бұрын

    I love this channel and constantly think I'm leaning by watching it, today was the first time you've ever covered anything I know about: the properties and differences between lime and cement used in construction, and frankly I'm horrified, this is historical story telling interspersed with half truths and misleading information.

  • @jaqueitch
    @jaqueitch7 ай бұрын

    The Roman's didn't dig up the cement and asphalt 13 times per year (from a lifelong resident of Connecticut, USA).

  • @kennyamacker1911
    @kennyamacker19118 ай бұрын

    The reason why our concrete is different has to do with water. Our 'wet' concrete is necessary to pour huge foundations for modern buildings. As well as bridges and dams. We can build big things fast but our concrete has weakness like expanding and contracting do to temperature. It doesn't do well in humid environments & needs more maintenance. On the other hand the romans could never make a colossal structure like the hoover dam.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    So in essence, the volcanic ash solution simply isn't as adaptable unless you're willing to throw a shit ton of bodies at it. It's good for it's insulative properties just not practical for any grand scale projects.

  • @rmglover3191
    @rmglover31918 ай бұрын

    In the healing process, what keeps the material from overcorrecting thereby creating bulges/spikes?

  • @davidmiddleton7958
    @davidmiddleton79587 ай бұрын

    In regards Roman concrete, a volcanic element was used in the mix. A suprising side effect of this addition was it was even stronger under water!

  • @Familylawgroup
    @Familylawgroup8 ай бұрын

    OMG…this storyline was just on the Billions episode on Showtime on America on September 22, 2023. The episode dealt with a modern inventor replicating the bacteria to creating self-healing concrete and the lead character of the show then went in and started “patent sharing” all of the subsidiary and tangential patents when the main inventor rejected the buy out offer. They explained the science behind the concrete really well and now you have an episode about it just two days later. Small world of coincidences.

  • @fastinradfordable

    @fastinradfordable

    8 ай бұрын

    Watch less tv

  • @Familylawgroup

    @Familylawgroup

    8 ай бұрын

    @@fastinradfordable Seriously…that was uncalled for.

  • @cat637d

    @cat637d

    8 ай бұрын

    @@fastinradfordable Smart Ass

  • @dv4310

    @dv4310

    8 ай бұрын

    Look up crystalline waterproofing admixtures. We’ve had self-healing concrete for awhile now….

  • @mnomadvfx

    @mnomadvfx

    7 ай бұрын

    Bacteria has nothing to do with it.

  • @TheRealRedRooster
    @TheRealRedRooster8 ай бұрын

    What have he Romans ever done for us? ROTFLMAO Monty Python at it's finest....

  • @juan-pierregiezen473
    @juan-pierregiezen4733 ай бұрын

    Construction companies won't switch, because it costs them business to have buildings that never need to be replaced

  • @markborn5293
    @markborn52938 ай бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @SMDoktorPepper
    @SMDoktorPepper8 ай бұрын

    Ironically, this was one of the plots on the recent episode of Billions..

  • @megenberg8
    @megenberg87 ай бұрын

    I heard that the coffers of the Pantheon were gilded as in Oro.

  • @wizzard3994
    @wizzard39945 ай бұрын

    That stuff pops up in the media every other year. It's not like it hasn't been investigated, it is just not economically viable. And as long as this is the priority, nothing will change.

  • @loganovercash
    @loganovercash7 ай бұрын

    Me who olays assassin's creed @1:06 - "i can definitely climb those building's"

  • @zeusathena26
    @zeusathena268 ай бұрын

    Thank you for explaining why concrete doesn't dry, but it requires hydration. Most people don't know that, or even if they do, they don't know why.

  • @RuminatingStoner
    @RuminatingStoner8 ай бұрын

    The perfect material for sea walls and coastline preservation against erosion , especially considering the amplified effects caused by global warming.

  • @davincisghost9228
    @davincisghost92288 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @scottbitz5222
    @scottbitz52227 ай бұрын

    One thing that's been found though is that even our modern concrete, over time, pulls about all the CO2 output by its creation into it (especially in buildings that we're leaving for decades longer than roads) and this property of concrete makes it stronger over time and is something that makes concrete far more environmentally friendly than we ever imagined.

  • @ericshelby8813
    @ericshelby88138 ай бұрын

    Concrete also requires a certain kind of sand to be produced, and we're running out of that. Hopefully, we can find a substitute.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    What kind of sand?

  • @frankcunsolo8177

    @frankcunsolo8177

    4 ай бұрын

    Can be crushed to produce a FM of 2.600 from rock !1

  • @T.E.P..
    @T.E.P..8 ай бұрын

    when I grow up ... I'm want to be just like this genius ... UTube channels like this better get compensated fair ... it's a ton of work and better than anything on streaming other things

  • @windhelmguard5295
    @windhelmguard52958 ай бұрын

    while we're on the subject of concrete, there is another type which is a mystery to this day: german WW-II flack towers. these were apparently so sturdily built that they not only survived allied bombing raids, but even after the war, with full access, allied attempts to demolish them failed, with most of them having simply been covered under a hill of dirt after they just gave up.

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger8 ай бұрын

    Dammit! When I was visiting Rome the place was shut down for maintenance.

  • @christianwestling2019
    @christianwestling20197 ай бұрын

    It always baffles me when you hear of a new bridge or similair project and they say "This has a lifespan of 100 years", when roman bridges and other projects last 2000 years.

  • @kitefan1

    @kitefan1

    6 ай бұрын

    They only have that lifespan if maintenance is kept up.

  • @JWLuke787
    @JWLuke7872 ай бұрын

    How strong is it WITH reinforcement?

  • @jackslagle2019
    @jackslagle20198 ай бұрын

    I’ve always wondered why people say broom and concrete was so much better. I love working with concrete. I love the pressure. I love that you cannot screw up if you do well, nobody likes chipping concrete.

  • @AdamAnouer

    @AdamAnouer

    7 ай бұрын

    That's an only adorable way of looking at concrete.

  • @chuckwilliams8738
    @chuckwilliams87388 ай бұрын

    This is amazing

  • @jesseblack8485
    @jesseblack84857 ай бұрын

    Why’d you show asphalt at the beginning?

  • @joshblubaugh6050
    @joshblubaugh60506 ай бұрын

    Anyone out there know of any good books or papers on this subject? Thanks.

  • @samright4661
    @samright46618 ай бұрын

    Do Greek fire next!!

  • @langdalepaul
    @langdalepaul7 ай бұрын

    Pronunciation tip: hyperbole is pronounced like hyper-bowl. The word you said, sounding like hy-PER-bolee, is the plural of hyperbola, which is a geometric shape, one of the conic sections.

  • @alan_e_

    @alan_e_

    6 ай бұрын

    Sorry but you’re incorrect here. No one pronounces it like that. It comes from Greek, and uses Greek pronunciation. The "le" at the end isn't a silent letter, it's meant to be pronounced. It's like how the name Hercules is pronounced Herk-u-lees, not Herk-yewls.

  • @Via-Media2024
    @Via-Media20248 ай бұрын

    What have the Romans ever done for us 😂 One of my favorite movies lol

  • @misslawless6021
    @misslawless60218 ай бұрын

    They truly made things to last forever where as modern inventions are built to break and be rebought because money is the primary focus. Imagine how advanced the world could be if we werent selfish were community based

  • @Tortall2012
    @Tortall20127 ай бұрын

    The fact that fly ash (which my laboratory regularly tests and just from the amount we receive is very abundant in the industry) could be used to help make better concrete is astounding… my only question would be if Roman concrete could stand up to Minnesota winters. If the answer is that they can… I’m going to be severely disappointed in the concrete industry, cuz we obviously need more durable roads but that wouldn’t negatively impact them financially because roadwork is a never ending process.

  • @aceholepictures

    @aceholepictures

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, American roads are laughed at globally... tbf they're put through harsh conditions

  • @paulmurray8922
    @paulmurray89228 ай бұрын

    What a closing line!😂😂

  • @liquidrockaquatics3900
    @liquidrockaquatics39007 ай бұрын

    I hope that the use of durable self healing concrete is taken into consideration during the construction of nuclear power stations in the future.

  • @dge4560
    @dge45608 ай бұрын

    Awesome finishing line😂

  • @J3scribe
    @J3scribe8 ай бұрын

    Low slump concrete made with fly ash has been a staple of runway building for decades.

  • @samsmom1491
    @samsmom14918 ай бұрын

    That dam in Utah will last millennia waiting for the recipe to hit the mainstream market. I'll be building an elevated small house near the ocean and want to use this material for the piers holding up the house, as well as footers for the dock. I need durable and as cheap as possible.

  • @Adiscretefirm
    @Adiscretefirm8 ай бұрын

    If you are willing to make your walls 20 feet thick, like the Pantheon and the Colosseum, it's easy to skip reinforcing your concrete structures. That's okay for a couple huge public buildings but isn't a practical strategy for homes, businesses and roads

  • @Matt-yg8ub

    @Matt-yg8ub

    8 ай бұрын

    Actually roads built with such methods would FAR outlast the current ones

  • @Adiscretefirm

    @Adiscretefirm

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Matt-yg8ub sure, but if you are laying slabs 10 feet thick you are going to have to first construct a roadbed strong enough to keep thousands of tons from sinking into the earth. That's gonna cost you, durability and economics are always an engineering compromise. Fast, cheap, good...best case you get 2

  • @Matt-yg8ub

    @Matt-yg8ub

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Adiscretefirm considering that I design roads, most of the problem is the federal requirements that makes us have to make them cheap and brittle….. and the water department, demanding that everything be less than 18 inches thick so that they can dig through it and patch pipes a month or two after we resurface a road. If they had designed the road to be a road, and not a poorly paved surface covering all the utility pipes…. They would last longer.

  • @Adiscretefirm

    @Adiscretefirm

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Matt-yg8ub probably so, but do we want to repeat the Roman experience and only have running water to the rich people's house?

  • @Matt-yg8ub

    @Matt-yg8ub

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Adiscretefirm you are missing the point, instead of running the pipes under the road where the water department has to cut through the road on a regular basis, run them alongside the road in the right of way. You end up with bigger trees in the right of way, more forestation, lower temperatures, less urban heat island effect, less global warming, and you don’t damage the road repairing pipes. The Romans built a sturdy road base that could sustain a road for 2000 years because they didn’t bury their pipes under the road

  • @randomuser2461
    @randomuser24615 ай бұрын

    Does that mean this would be good for a garden based on collecting rain water from your roof and funneling it into your garden spaces over time? Would this be hard to make at home?