How did Microsoft screw this up? - Surface Pro X (SQ2) vs M1 Macbook Air

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Windows on Arm laptops have been out for years now - so how does Microsoft's flagship Arm device, the Surface Pro X SQ2, measure up to Apple's arm-powered M1 Macbook Air?
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  • @Coolmike35
    @Coolmike353 жыл бұрын

    They really did Microsoft dirty with that windows virtual machine performance comparison on the Mac.

  • @Antervis

    @Antervis

    3 жыл бұрын

    tbh in 2013 (iirc) Macbook Pro was voted as the best windows productivity laptop. Well, given you install windows on it, but nonetheless.

  • @narutobroken

    @narutobroken

    3 жыл бұрын

    Straight up owned

  • @PepekBezlepek

    @PepekBezlepek

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah that was brutal :D

  • @Enroxxx

    @Enroxxx

    3 жыл бұрын

    They did dirty to Snapdragon more than to Microsoft.

  • @yashsaranpiano

    @yashsaranpiano

    3 жыл бұрын

    The windows are dirty :P

  • @rossgoosen7269
    @rossgoosen72693 жыл бұрын

    7:00 - Stop, stop, he’s already dead!

  • @miran248

    @miran248

    3 жыл бұрын

    These 30s were brutal!

  • @greecemobile7610

    @greecemobile7610

    3 жыл бұрын

    apple 💪

  • @narutobroken

    @narutobroken

    3 жыл бұрын

    When a virtual machine on a Mac beats your native hardware, you know you have a bad day

  • @shreshtajaiswal7415

    @shreshtajaiswal7415

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@narutobroken Yeah I hate Apple, but gotta give this to them. They actually did it. And they actually did it amazingly well.

  • @AppleReviews

    @AppleReviews

    3 жыл бұрын

    *even then - he defended M$ - when Apple the smallest mistake - he would crucify that company - because he is PURE Apple Hater*

  • @BadTomzi
    @BadTomzi3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, crushing windows while running Windows emulated on Mac... That is some Inception grade whoop-ass.

  • @ko-Daegu

    @ko-Daegu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft can’t make any hardware other than xBox

  • @sitiraudahas

    @sitiraudahas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even xbox will be a history ... as it couldn’t catch up with ps5

  • @DanielHarrisCodes

    @DanielHarrisCodes

    3 жыл бұрын

    It does need a bit more analysis. I wish there was a laptop with the SQ2. The SQ2 uses twice the juice of the older ARM chips. The M1 uses even more juice than the SQ2. Obviously this is how these ARM chips are getting better performance than the earlier WoA devices.... The SPX has a tablet sized battery, I think the same chip in a laptop with the same battery and increased power usage would probably be a lot closer to the M1.

  • @galigon3812

    @galigon3812

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sitiraudahas your kidding right?

  • @bigchunkymonkey69

    @bigchunkymonkey69

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ko-Daegu apple: makes a console

  • @Nick-xc4fy
    @Nick-xc4fy3 жыл бұрын

    I think this is the best thing Apple have done since releasing the first iPhone.

  • @paristath6773

    @paristath6773

    3 жыл бұрын

    so true. its revolutionary

  • @Nick-xc4fy

    @Nick-xc4fy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Antonio Zamudio I think this is more impressive. iPod and especially the iPhone are the turning points of apple. iPad, not so much... It's just a bigger iPhone.

  • @paristath6773

    @paristath6773

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nick-xc4fy "It's just a bigger iPhone." I think we live in different centuries

  • @Vojta_sus

    @Vojta_sus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nick-xc4fy what it isn't a bigger iPhone! It is a bigger iPod touch!!

  • @Nick-xc4fy

    @Nick-xc4fy

    3 жыл бұрын

    First came the iPod (not the touch version). The tech for the iPad came first, then the put it to one side and used it for the iPhone. Technically, the first iPhone is closest to the iPad. You guys are not thinking of product releases and technology chronologically. Read up about Apple and when things were released.

  • @chrisberry5160
    @chrisberry51603 жыл бұрын

    So many missed opportunities to say "ARM's race"

  • @gizmostudios

    @gizmostudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    Underrated comment right here!

  • @xeone1920

    @xeone1920

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arm wrestling is better

  • @Mustafa_9628

    @Mustafa_9628

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have pc master race We dont need a new race

  • @andrewgoss1682

    @andrewgoss1682

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mustafa_9628 what about Nascar

  • @Mustafa_9628

    @Mustafa_9628

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewgoss1682 Idiot Race here is not about cars Whats wrong with you people

  • @Archt1cStreams
    @Archt1cStreams3 жыл бұрын

    I’m so used to Linus bashing on Apple that it throws me off hearing him praise them so much.

  • @AlbertAlbertB.

    @AlbertAlbertB.

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @Garrettdx1988

    @Garrettdx1988

    3 жыл бұрын

    Apple killed it with their entry level laptop/desktop chips so far.

  • @superblitz2274

    @superblitz2274

    3 жыл бұрын

    M1 is amazing and you can't deny that fact

  • @clickbaitpro

    @clickbaitpro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Garrettdx1988 Not only chips, also in emulation

  • @1234legomaker

    @1234legomaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@clickbaitpro rosetta is more like a translation rather than emulation, thats why its doing so much better than the windows alternative.

  • @paweadamski5137
    @paweadamski51373 жыл бұрын

    "Both of them are snappy" - and The windows machine had fps drop while you said that.

  • @HAWXLEADER

    @HAWXLEADER

    3 жыл бұрын

    Snappy, maybe..... smooth? Hello no!

  • @BrendonGreenNZL

    @BrendonGreenNZL

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂🤣😂🤔🙄💥

  • @mdateeque3997

    @mdateeque3997

    3 жыл бұрын

    time stamp? pls

  • @hadz_

    @hadz_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mdateeque3997 4:00 kekw

  • @4nlimited3dition_4n3d

    @4nlimited3dition_4n3d

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mdateeque3997 3:55

  • @scottwhitener9702
    @scottwhitener97023 жыл бұрын

    8:25 That "scrambling" is the reason why Apple is such a powerful entity. I mean, who else has that kind of pull?

  • @sugoruyo

    @sugoruyo

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is true but also, it's likely the developers of these apps elected to take the time to bring full support to Apple's platform because it's actually worth the trouble. No matter what, Apple can't really strong-arm all those open-source apps' dev teams, especially something as big as Mozilla Foundation who make Firefox. For them, what it comes down to is this: the release of ARM-powered Macs that actually worked well meant a bunch of their Mac users got onto that platform and requested/demanded a native version. At the same time, their Mac devs could also get on to the platform and, the platform actually working, enabled them to provide that native version. From what I've seen, supporting a macOS app on M1 natively when you have a version out for Intel isn't that much of a hassle, certainly not as much as one might expect for shifting a whole CPU architecture.

  • @ZeldagigafanMatthew

    @ZeldagigafanMatthew

    2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of this really just comes down the monopolistic control Apple has over their platform.

  • @Marngel

    @Marngel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Developers did so because when Apple makes a drastic change for their line up, the vast majority of their users will follow. Since Apple's user base is large, but also consumerist, if you choose to not optimize your app for that type of market, you will lose. So developers had to optimize their apps for the M1 or risk losing out on a crap ton of money.

  • @unknown185

    @unknown185

    2 жыл бұрын

    XIAOMI making phones with 108mp, 120hz and 5050mah for 200$: ahem

  • @thearmyofiron

    @thearmyofiron

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@unknown185 what's the SoC?

  • @thedailyreal2
    @thedailyreal23 жыл бұрын

    M1 gets a higher benchmark score on a virtualised version of Windows 10 than a Surface Pro X runnin native Windows 10. I almost died laughing seeing that 😂

  • @WolfyRed

    @WolfyRed

    3 жыл бұрын

    54n likes. ncie.

  • @haschid

    @haschid

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. It's not only faster. It's almost twice as fast.

  • @armandoestrella3097

    @armandoestrella3097

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@haschid And at the same time, managing to be a cheaper device

  • @thedailyreal2

    @thedailyreal2

    3 жыл бұрын

    and at the same time uses less power 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @_sparrowhawk

    @_sparrowhawk

    3 жыл бұрын

    That shit was painful phew~~~~~~

  • @daviddavis1322
    @daviddavis13223 жыл бұрын

    I like how the Apple product runs windows better than the Microsoft product. Dumpster fire confirmed.

  • @DuckMaster37

    @DuckMaster37

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @FBI-jo9wk

    @FBI-jo9wk

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's big off

  • @TalesOfWar

    @TalesOfWar

    3 жыл бұрын

    And it isn't even running native lol.

  • @odinsplaygrounds

    @odinsplaygrounds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft had so many years to do this, then Apple pumps out better support and performance in a short time instead. Microsoft sleeping at the wheel.

  • @utubekullanicisi

    @utubekullanicisi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@odinsplaygrounds Well to be fair Apple has probably been designing their chips to be laptop and desktop-ready (aka scalable) since like 2014. Microsoft never got into creating their own silicon in the time period between 2014-2020.

  • @amaledward2147
    @amaledward21473 жыл бұрын

    Lmao. Windows Running on a Mac VM is better than Windows running on Surface. Microsoft is a circus

  • @nakdickson

    @nakdickson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did Microsoft make the chips in surface devices?

  • @yaboinicola

    @yaboinicola

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nakdickson No. They bought them.

  • @nakdickson

    @nakdickson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yaboinicola so why's MS taking the blame?

  • @yaboinicola

    @yaboinicola

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nakdickson Because they're responsible for creating a Windows Version that works well with ARM processors. And usually Surface products are known for delivering the best Windows experience...until now. Since Apple M1 Computers get better performance with non-native Windows virtualization than their surface products get with native windows, it goes to show that Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the competition. And it's also embarassing for them to know that Windows (ARM only) runs better on a Mac.

  • @nakdickson

    @nakdickson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yaboinicola you point is so invalid. If windows on works better on M1 than ARM. Then that should indicate that ARM processors are not as good as M1 not a windows problem.

  • @AshiqurRahman
    @AshiqurRahman3 жыл бұрын

    If Apple's new processor gets available for generic laptops then Intel's cpu business will be gone. Not much improvement in last 10 years..

  • @Geilegarnele

    @Geilegarnele

    3 жыл бұрын

    Impossible

  • @JoelMcLaughlin

    @JoelMcLaughlin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will never happen.

  • @HelenFire420

    @HelenFire420

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well apple dose contract TSMC to make there chips, do maybe in a roundabout way that might happen!

  • @RomboutVersluijs

    @RomboutVersluijs

    3 жыл бұрын

    They dont have generic laptops, the air is the lowest you can get. They wont sell there chips.

  • @RomboutVersluijs

    @RomboutVersluijs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DoubleMonoLR I guess because most most big names make only the end product and not what apple does, the os, the hardware and chips

  • @BlueRS123
    @BlueRS1233 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft just did themselves some self-hARM

  • @falagarius

    @falagarius

    3 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft hasn't released x64 emulation yet

  • @michaelcorcoran8768

    @michaelcorcoran8768

    3 жыл бұрын

    MicroPlotting their own demise

  • @shadowminion3070

    @shadowminion3070

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol i saw this above the exact same comment but posted by a different guy

  • @poeticsilence047

    @poeticsilence047

    3 жыл бұрын

    @UwU Windows phone wasn't too bad. It had it's benefits. A lot of things that Apple and Android are just now implementing windows phone had already. Not to mention, for me the zune music player is better than anything either of them offer locally.

  • @jaredabvan20

    @jaredabvan20

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shadowminion3070 This was first

  • @PabloNeirotti
    @PabloNeirotti3 жыл бұрын

    Never imagined that I'd hear of a MacBook Air leaving anything bleeding and unconscious for cheaper.

  • @TheDeathmail

    @TheDeathmail

    3 жыл бұрын

    Macs being over priced is a bit more myth than fact. It was pointed out by many tech tubers multiple times that Macs were actually decent value for what you got. The only difference being that Apple sells fewer Macs and keeps them for a full year. So 6 months later, something cheaper and comparable comes out.

  • @Tomas-bm1wd

    @Tomas-bm1wd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheDeathmail exactly it’s like when apple release $999 stand that’s overpriced and people think the whole lineup is like that when it’s not

  • @jessthebenjamin758

    @jessthebenjamin758

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tomas-bm1wd honestly, I still think Apple made that stand cost a grand just because they knew that no matter the price, the people who would buy it would buy it, and the people who wouldn’t, well wouldn’t.

  • @h4x0y

    @h4x0y

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Tomas-bm1wd There are many aspects of the Pro Display which make it dirt cheap compared to its competition, and adding the price of the stand doesn't change that.

  • @Tomas-bm1wd

    @Tomas-bm1wd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jessthebenjamin758 yes and it also created a load of talk because of it. Ltt made a good video about the $700 wheels and stand

  • @frankthecat
    @frankthecat3 жыл бұрын

    Got the M1 MBA the day it went onsale. Absolutely love it. After years of inflated claims by Apple about performance this one actually lives up to and in some ways surpasses those claims. Pretty great. MY first Mac since the iMac G5.

  • @sriramsundar8388

    @sriramsundar8388

    3 жыл бұрын

    You never owned an Intel Mac?

  • @computernerdinside

    @computernerdinside

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could find a good iMac G5, as I've always wanted to mess around with the last generation of Apple's PowerPC. FUN FACT: PowerPC and ARM are very similar in the fact that they are both a RISC architecture (Reduced Instruction Set Computer) compared to x86, being CISC (Complex Instruction Set Computer)

  • @computernerdinside

    @computernerdinside

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sriramsundar8388 The ports are nice for sure, it was great for it's time.

  • @joshsvoss

    @joshsvoss

    9 ай бұрын

    And how great was that iMac G5 right?

  • @kanjuicy585
    @kanjuicy5853 жыл бұрын

    _"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."_ - Alan Kay

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech3 жыл бұрын

    Ouch, I"m dropping an F for Intel on this one, sorry Intel, all your friends are leaving you behind.

  • @jeremoo

    @jeremoo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Losing in every avenue

  • @hanmetalworks

    @hanmetalworks

    3 жыл бұрын

    friends? more like hostages

  • @RoraighPrice

    @RoraighPrice

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hanmetalworks seems Mario finally found the right castle.

  • @Solaxe

    @Solaxe

    3 жыл бұрын

    >still using the F meme

  • @krioulai

    @krioulai

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Solaxe F

  • @bluesrike
    @bluesrike3 жыл бұрын

    Linus: "Nice one, Microsoft! And my condolences, Intel." Oof, did not see that one coming.

  • @WolfyRed

    @WolfyRed

    3 жыл бұрын

    476 likes nice

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some are suggesting Intel should just give up making chips altogether arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/activist-hedge-fund-advises-intel-to-outsource-cpu-manufacturing/ .

  • @bluesrike

    @bluesrike

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Intel has a lot of money. I think they're gonna wrap their heads around sub-14nm manufacturing eventually.

  • @UmVtCg

    @UmVtCg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Don't listen to asstechnica they are only slightly better than the verge

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bluesrike Given they lost something like a quarter of their share price over the last year, I would say they don’t quite have as much money as they did before.

  • @TenantRepGuru
    @TenantRepGuru2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for producing this. I have the Surface X and think Microsoft ripped everyone off on it. No 64bit. You can't even run a native copy of DropBox. It's a scam.

  • @NotADuncon

    @NotADuncon

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy I didn't pull the trigger on getting one a few years ago.

  • @771shadowolf

    @771shadowolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    how do you feel about it now ??

  • @TenantRepGuru

    @TenantRepGuru

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@771shadowolf With Windows 11, it works much better. That said, you pay a price for having the low-power chip. It's slower. The Surface Pro 8 is much faster, but doesn't have LTE built in.

  • @lucasarcanjo887

    @lucasarcanjo887

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TenantRepGuru what about x64 emulation? any updates?

  • @formerlycringe

    @formerlycringe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucasarcanjo887 I think they added x64 on all SQ series chips in Windows 11, it's only an update away.

  • @dkijc
    @dkijc3 жыл бұрын

    running windows vm in a mac always felt pretty smooth.

  • @iseptimus
    @iseptimus3 жыл бұрын

    Parallels has a build that runs ARM windows even better than the one shown.

  • @astronemir

    @astronemir

    3 жыл бұрын

    Upvoting this so LTT can see. Maybe we'll get a second video. :P

  • @ChrisJones-rd4wb

    @ChrisJones-rd4wb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Linux runs on arm even better than windows

  • @HelenFire420

    @HelenFire420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisJones-rd4wb no s**t it’s linux

  • @Bradyboy26

    @Bradyboy26

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisJones-rd4wb Linux runs on anything

  • @grimacemcccheese

    @grimacemcccheese

    3 жыл бұрын

    And it'd be cheaper just to buy the mac with parallels

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna30803 жыл бұрын

    “My condolences Intel” Imagine getting dunked on by ARM chips

  • @user-hf3fu2xt2j

    @user-hf3fu2xt2j

    3 жыл бұрын

    inb4 intel creates it's own ARM chip

  • @fewik8567

    @fewik8567

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arm could be just as powerful as x86 though, usually power limits stop it but mobile chips have got pretty fast, especially amds 4000

  • @Chastity_Belt

    @Chastity_Belt

    3 жыл бұрын

    In comparison with 13" laptops with integrated graphics? Are you joking or what? x86_64 CPUs never was designed for low-powered mobile devices, it's literally just ripped off versions of regular desktop CPUs. ARM-bases processors have no chances against full-powered desktop CPUs. And never will.

  • @hunterlong1820

    @hunterlong1820

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Chastity_Belt but they do? Have you not been looking at the comparison videos?

  • @Navhkrin

    @Navhkrin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Chastity_Belt That is too big of a claim. And pretty confident that it wont hold true. ARM architecture can very well scale all the way to compute heavy data centers and in some cases, beat x86 CPU's. Especially when efficiency is critical. If you are going to make a blatant claim like "Arm wont ever beat x86" you need a very good argument to back it up. Investments done to reduced instruction set architectures is much higher than CISC architectures. From investments alone Arm and RISC-V are progressing faster and they will very likely beat x86. There is a good reason Nvidia bought ARM. It wasnt just a clever economic decision.

  • @dannymartial7997
    @dannymartial79972 жыл бұрын

    It goes to show that expanding your brand too far can lead to having less influence in the market. Apple has a very small lineup of product compared to every other tech brand, so when they make a change, the entire industry has to adapt. When Microsoft makes a change to their computers, people will just buy something else that doesn't have that change.

  • @Hchris101

    @Hchris101

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like nintendo

  • @z7ky835

    @z7ky835

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Hchris101 you shouldn't because of people like you they can overprice any garbage and you would pay for it

  • @saatvikagarwal6358
    @saatvikagarwal63583 жыл бұрын

    Linus' sponsorship ads are actually skippable by seeking exactly 10 seconds from the moment he says "sponsor".

  • @wesosdequeso8360

    @wesosdequeso8360

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sponsor. Code word for tapping right twice.

  • @refrweerf

    @refrweerf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@janakpatel6936 interesting

  • @stormcroc1384

    @stormcroc1384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@janakpatel6936 hmmm very interesting

  • @letmetranslate4249

    @letmetranslate4249

    2 жыл бұрын

    Commies

  • @soupnoodles

    @soupnoodles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@janakpatel6936 hmmmmmmmmm interesting af

  • @gocyetisp
    @gocyetisp3 жыл бұрын

    The giggle in the background when he mentions the teleprompter is priceless

  • @bambi992

    @bambi992

    3 жыл бұрын

    Timestamp?

  • @smartmas6

    @smartmas6

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bambi992 0:39 is about where I heard it

  • @bambi992

    @bambi992

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@smartmas6 thx mate

  • @FRIZz0vr

    @FRIZz0vr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is the mention of their sponsar🤣

  • @skate3717

    @skate3717

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Lennyp4
    @Lennyp43 жыл бұрын

    “one heck of an arm wrestle” HAA what a dad

  • @naufalap

    @naufalap

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's okay to not know what dad is

  • @MikeMessiah

    @MikeMessiah

    3 жыл бұрын

    A Dad is someone who went to the grocery store and never came back.

  • @WolfyRed

    @WolfyRed

    3 жыл бұрын

    440 likes nice.

  • @WolfyRed

    @WolfyRed

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's a dad? Well... it's the male parental figure. The second half of the average straight family, other than the first half being the mom, the female parental figure.

  • @himynameissam
    @himynameissam3 жыл бұрын

    I still think it's crazy that we are seeing this type of performance from M1, their low-end "budget" chip. What's going to happen once we see their Pro-level chips? Gonna be an interesting next few years in the CPU space that's for sure.

  • @fricavvegas

    @fricavvegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spoiler alert: M1 Pro and M1 Max are ASTONISHING.

  • @watintarnation9801

    @watintarnation9801

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fricavvegas M1 Ultra joins the chat

  • @fricavvegas

    @fricavvegas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@watintarnation9801 yup… It’s over 9000 and double the size

  • @alyx6427
    @alyx64273 жыл бұрын

    the fact that apple doesn’t even seem to be trying yet still managed to absolutely smash everyone else...

  • @BrendonGreenNZL

    @BrendonGreenNZL

    3 жыл бұрын

    You know Apple only sells software so they can sell hardware, right? Of course they mop the floor with everyone else!

  • @ElAndresRodriguez

    @ElAndresRodriguez

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean they have been trying, it's been a decade leading up to this. They just took the long route and it really paid off.

  • @default2826

    @default2826

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrendonGreenNZL your point is quite redundant, you know Microsoft also makes it's own software and hardware right? It's called windows and they literally made their own hardware for it called the microsoft surface and worked with qualcomm to make a custom chip. And the mac running WINDOWS, still beat the Microsoft machine running windows. No excusw.

  • @BrendonGreenNZL

    @BrendonGreenNZL

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@default2826 yes, but the difference is that Apple has always been first and foremost a hardware company. They've been doing this since the seventies, so they ought to know what they're doing by now. By contrast; Microsoft has always been a software company, and actually loses money on most of the hardware they license their name to.

  • @costinvaly1

    @costinvaly1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrendonGreenNZL What are you even on about?? Apple has been a hardware company when it comes to their phones and ipads mostly. In the computer world they used to run on intel cpus since 2005/2006 and were mostly focusing on their software side of business. Just because they started with the M1 recently, they're "hardware creators" all of a sudden? We're talking computers here so cross the phones and tablets out of the equation. The fact that they've never had their own chip before and now all of a sudden they come up with a masterpiece it's truly astonishing. They ashamed intel AND microsoft, because my audio production plugins and project sessions run more smoothly on my new MacBook Pro than on my i9 9900k workstation. And i've been a Windows guy for the last 2 decades, today i've bought my first M1MBP and i didn't pull the trigger till today because i never liked the intel based macbooks due to Thermalthrottling and fan noise which on my M1 MBP it's totally fanless unless i stress the laptop in brutal 100% benchmarking for more than 10 minutes. You how no idea how much this laptop is offering for the money. It's the first time ever when Apple offers more for the money than the Windows counterpart. It used to be the other way around.

  • @AleRic_03
    @AleRic_033 жыл бұрын

    The wallpaper on the MacBook is the best thing I've seen today

  • @RealFilmsbyus

    @RealFilmsbyus

    3 жыл бұрын

    true

  • @noxious7061

    @noxious7061

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah lol I have it as my wallpaper

  • @alexspravtsev6198

    @alexspravtsev6198

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@noxious7061 same all I need is the link lol

  • @jakedevries1455

    @jakedevries1455

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha ffs thanks.... Took me ages to see it 😂 but know I have 🤣

  • @mkadmi

    @mkadmi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Satellite map flashbacks intensify

  • @HamRadioCrashCourse
    @HamRadioCrashCourse3 жыл бұрын

    Apple and the M1 seems like 4d chess. Going all the way back to ditching PowerPC yet still keeping it going via ARM development for their portable devices since the iPhone. When it came to a decade later ditching intel for their own ARM processors it seemed they were doing something drastic, not really. They leveraged what they learned from the iPad. Well played.

  • @josearaujo8616

    @josearaujo8616

    3 жыл бұрын

    Has long has there are Apple fanboys, anything Apple does is well played. There is nothing you can't do on IOS that you can't do in Chrome for a fraction of the price. Apple is flexing its muscles and abusing monopolistic power, what they did now Adobe could do with a proprietary chip to run its products more efficiently. We could have done it decades ago, like we have done in GPU's, and we don't need ARM. Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book? For professional use switching software to hardware actually prevents evolution of the ecosystem, that is how things used to be not that far back, remember.

  • @HelenFire420

    @HelenFire420

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact! Steve Jobs actually approached intel to help make the SOC on the first iPhone! But intel told him it wouldn’t be possible to put an x86 chip on such a small device, so instead they provided the antenna, and apple approached Samsung for the ARM chip that was in the apple tv. The rest is history.

  • @TalesOfWar

    @TalesOfWar

    3 жыл бұрын

    This goes back even further. Mac OS X is based on NeXT Step OS which was architecture agnostic. It was designed from day one to be able to run on practically anything by relying heavily on API's and abstraction layers rather than low level coding in user space. They had versions of it running on x86, ARM and PowerPC before it was even announced it existed which is how they were so easily (relatively speaking) able to move to Intel and now to ARM. It also helps that Apple have always had a strong dedicated developer base who actually follow their guidelines in terms of writing software. It also, ALSO helps that Apple stick to an API and improve it (or just entirely deprecate it)rather than just abandon it and use something else while leaving the old one in there like Microsoft does in Windows. So there's always a common target for developers to aim for. If you write as they say you should then it's going to be an easier time for you when they make drastic changes like this. Most software written the way they recommend was literally a case of recompile and test. Little in the way of rewrites.

  • @HelenFire420

    @HelenFire420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josearaujo8616 sounds like your doing 4D chess to validate your opinion on apple. Look, I don’t use apple devices or services and I don’t plan to. However you can’t deny that the rest of the industry follows apple, so the M1 will bring us better PCs. The switch to ARM is just a different more efficient architecture. Also, if you’re going to sit here and tell me that I can do what ever I want on Chrome OS just like iOS, than you are blissfully ignorant.

  • @PeachyTech

    @PeachyTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josearaujo8616 "Still for 90% of users what is really the difference between a surface, M1 or even a chrome book?" well sir, the difference is that you can use the M1 macbook like a computer. and simply, the other two, you can't.

  • @rdwithit
    @rdwithit3 жыл бұрын

    Linus said "Arm wrestling" and I involuntarily blurted out, alone in my bedroom, "That was a good one"

  • @main_game

    @main_game

    3 жыл бұрын

    This guy said that too, in-fact it's in his video title: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2mK2Myoade1d5c.html

  • @gchcom6902

    @gchcom6902

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the third time I've seen this exact comment

  • @main_game

    @main_game

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gchcom6902 Copy-paste and repost a comment is a thing now, I guess

  • @kermitdaphrodge8346

    @kermitdaphrodge8346

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow how original

  • @PiaJustynn
    @PiaJustynn3 жыл бұрын

    That wallpaper though 😂😂😂. You are just brilliant!

  • @thexgamer8240
    @thexgamer82403 жыл бұрын

    Those eyes peeking through the MacBook’s wallpaper is hilarious.

  • @paristath6773

    @paristath6773

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's Linus face

  • @armstrongcanon7833

    @armstrongcanon7833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paristath6773 no sh*t

  • @graham107

    @graham107

    3 жыл бұрын

    i need that wallpaper

  • @Michael-zn2jc

    @Michael-zn2jc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m commenting before the people of the internet start hating that you didn’t notice it before

  • @paristath6773

    @paristath6773

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@armstrongcanon7833 sherlock

  • @cvejite
    @cvejite3 жыл бұрын

    Apple with the rumored 32 core arm processor: “This isn’t even my final form”

  • @flushroyal970

    @flushroyal970

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amd with rumored 96core chip : "Our battle will be legendary"

  • @amirbahalegharn365

    @amirbahalegharn365

    3 жыл бұрын

    there is a chinese arm soc with 132 or 138 cores..so yep,the arm era has begun

  • @x3dwany371

    @x3dwany371

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@flushroyal970 apple : with the m1x chipset Amd : with the threadripper series Intel: considering killing themselves

  • @Alirezarz62

    @Alirezarz62

    3 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile Intel being stuck at 14nm: "I'll leave you guys at that"

  • @Kayserjp

    @Kayserjp

    3 жыл бұрын

    the M1 is even just 4cores. 4performance and 4 ultra efficiency cores. so if you got well... 16performance core and 16 efficience cores....

  • @dbnoho
    @dbnoho3 жыл бұрын

    Bought the original surface and really wanted to love it. I sold it around a later when I seen what direction they’d go with RT.

  • @yomurita
    @yomurita Жыл бұрын

    Could we get a late 2022 update on this? There's ARM builds of a lot of popular windows apps now :)

  • @LittleMan2225
    @LittleMan22253 жыл бұрын

    As Alan Kay once said: "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."

  • @damebuster7688

    @damebuster7688

    3 жыл бұрын

    steve jobs has cited this alan kay quote in previous apple keynotes too lol

  • @austinramsay

    @austinramsay

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@rotteneldritch7037 honestly they're pretty affordable for the quality you get

  • @thebuddercweeper

    @thebuddercweeper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rotteneldritch7037 I tend to buy used Macs. Unfortunately that won’t be an option when it comes to Apple silicon ones for a while though. As for the ports, it’s personal preference really, but I’ll take 4x USB 4 over 4x USB-A 3.2, HDMI etc. Would like an SD card slot but eh.

  • @AlbertAlbertB.

    @AlbertAlbertB.

    3 жыл бұрын

    As did Steve Jobs show in the reveal of the first iPhone. Or was it the first iPod nano?

  • @pirojfmifhghek566

    @pirojfmifhghek566

    3 жыл бұрын

    People who are really serious about not being taken for a ride shouldn't be buying all their hardware from the same place. I'm honestly going to be really annoyed if the whole industry starts going the SoC/All-in-One route. No upgrades! No repairs! Only buy computer as single unit!

  • @Oroquieta
    @Oroquieta3 жыл бұрын

    so Windows 10 is not the last version of Windows? Microsoft lied to us.

  • @saikaarthik7758

    @saikaarthik7758

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @jasonhe54

    @jasonhe54

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean... windows 10 for ARM is the same as Windows 10 Home/Pro/Workstation/Server, just maybe with different features. just like their Home/Pro/Workstation/Server versions

  • @redjoker07

    @redjoker07

    3 жыл бұрын

    @B dab but with different variants of Windows 10

  • @Tailslol

    @Tailslol

    3 жыл бұрын

    project windows core,aka windows 10X

  • @Oroquieta

    @Oroquieta

    3 жыл бұрын

    @B dab seems like you have not read their marketing when they released it.

  • @RyanZNO
    @RyanZNO3 жыл бұрын

    I'm absolutely in love with my M1 Macbook Air. It's my home computer that I use for emails, photo editing, and just browsing while on the couch. I've had it unplugged since last Wednesday (8 days now..). I was so confident in the battery life I took it on a trip without the charger and watched almost 5 hours of movies on it, lots of email and web browsing, and it's still at 35%.... my previous 2018 MacBook Pro would have been dead shortly after the movies. Very excited to see what the future brings...

  • @wesosdequeso8360
    @wesosdequeso83603 жыл бұрын

    M1 is the new big thing we all been waiting for years.

  • @JeanB95
    @JeanB953 жыл бұрын

    Linus' face whenever he is about to segway to a sponsor is so predictable after watching so many of his videos

  • @dnoodspodu1159

    @dnoodspodu1159

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just how cold is it in Canada that people have to wear beanies while being inside?

  • @andrefixera

    @andrefixera

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dnoodspodu1159 they are stylish tho

  • @Hipster_Doofuss

    @Hipster_Doofuss

    3 жыл бұрын

    segue :)!

  • @romano5785

    @romano5785

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's not cold, just having a long hair

  • @NeiFidelis

    @NeiFidelis

    3 жыл бұрын

    that is what I pay youtube premium for ¬¬

  • @joecool4656
    @joecool46563 жыл бұрын

    It’s almost like Microsoft released it without software ready again, just like the surface rt

  • @sgirix65

    @sgirix65

    3 жыл бұрын

    Until now Windows on ARM still just a toy for QEMU and Raspberry Pi users 😂

  • @simonsalazar2106
    @simonsalazar21063 жыл бұрын

    That was one heck of an ARM wrestle, hahaha. Great review!

  • @commieSlayer69
    @commieSlayer693 жыл бұрын

    Everyone to Intel: The future is now, old architecture

  • @n_core

    @n_core

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Muhammad Rafif there's a rumor that AMD is actually already prototyping their own ARM chip back in 2014 but stopped in 2017 (I think because of Ryzen) and also rumor that AMD started to look back to the project recently because of the rise of the ARM chips

  • @diavalus

    @diavalus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@n_core So basically AMD stopped innovating as well and they are just followers. In that case, I'll dig a grave for AMD and Intel as well.

  • @affectedrl5327

    @affectedrl5327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diavalus people dont care if they are only "follower". If the arm processor of amd is competetive you wont have to dig a grave for them.

  • @diavalus

    @diavalus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@affectedrl5327 Then if Intel will come out with an ARM design, they will be fine as well. Besides, as far as I remember, AMD business is based on following instead of innovating. That's how the company started.

  • @affectedrl5327

    @affectedrl5327

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diavalus yeah ofcourse. If the product is good they will be fine. Intel isnt fine at the moment because they offered mediocre products for a high price over years.

  • @Cjnator38
    @Cjnator383 жыл бұрын

    “Sponsour” Finally, Linus can speak full Canadian

  • @utubekullanicisi

    @utubekullanicisi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, Qualcumm

  • @Cjnator38

    @Cjnator38

    3 жыл бұрын

    kwal cum

  • @Cjnator38

    @Cjnator38

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it pronounced cwall cum or qcwall.com

  • @AmatuerHourCoding

    @AmatuerHourCoding

    3 жыл бұрын

    qouahll kwoum

  • @gvalo
    @gvalo3 жыл бұрын

    I used to work in IT for a major corporation and my team was responsible for bringing in new hardware. The powers that be refused to use anything except Surface Pros. The latest one had so many random issues that simply shouldn’t be problems, we re-issued them SP4s until we can convince them to use other 2 in 1s or switch to laptops.

  • @lliddle7616
    @lliddle76163 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see some windows only apps tested on an arm Mac like SolidWorks. I also hope that Windows x86 emulation gets better.

  • @marktries6834
    @marktries68343 жыл бұрын

    "it sucked so bad that i forgot it had ever existed"

  • @em0_tion

    @em0_tion

    3 жыл бұрын

    well, it does have X in the title 😏

  • @shreshthrai9879

    @shreshthrai9879

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@em0_tion well I understand your reasoning

  • @bhyesilnil5
    @bhyesilnil53 жыл бұрын

    "My condolences, Intel" It was about time. You won't be missed Intel

  • @enrico9665

    @enrico9665

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will be missed, AMD has already started to increase a lot the price of their CPUs. We can only hope Intel will have a powerful comeback.

  • @razzledev

    @razzledev

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@enrico9665 Not really, in fact AMD basically designed the x64-86/ x64/32 architectures that we take for granitite today.

  • @wta1518

    @wta1518

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@razzledev 1) granted, not granitite. Granitite is a type of granite. 2) you completely missed the point of what they were trying to say.

  • @BellCube

    @BellCube

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...and welcome to the party, AMD! (I wonder If AMD will make an ARM processer just to show up Apple)

  • @da_pawz

    @da_pawz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BellCube Ehmmm the K12.. ehmm... the sibling from the same father Jim Keller lol

  • @seantyler7140
    @seantyler71403 жыл бұрын

    I have been playing with a 1st gen Surface Pro X. Positives with the Surface Pro X that you didn't mention.. It has a built-in LTE Modem, User Replaceable/Upgradable Hard Drive, a Touchscreen, a nice pen interface, and is very light. Comparing it to a MacBook M1 is like comparing Apples and Oranges...

  • @samhendersonn

    @samhendersonn

    Жыл бұрын

    We are talking about software performance not hardware lmfao but yet M1 is still fucked windows lmfao

  • @hybridinfodesk409
    @hybridinfodesk4093 жыл бұрын

    My ARM laptop has LTE and a touchscreen. I use 5 browsers on average, 11 tabs open in this one alone. Runs Brave, Iron, Ice Dragon, Comodo Dragon, Valvedi, Opera and Firefox. I use Cyberlink PowerDirector for video editing came bundled with a screen recorder. However, I also use Debut screen recorder sometimes. Edraw Suite as my drawing app, runs beautifully. All the normal entertainment stuff...Hulu, Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Prime.

  • @Alex-hv3ir
    @Alex-hv3ir3 жыл бұрын

    When Linus showed performance of windows running in VM on the Mac VS native Windows... IT MADE ME LAUGH LMAOOO

  • @Dragon1276

    @Dragon1276

    3 жыл бұрын

    And a beta version of a VM at that.

  • @ameliabuns4058

    @ameliabuns4058

    3 жыл бұрын

    Microsoft can't really do things right... Just look at their VR headsets too (mixed reality)

  • @bullymaguire6388

    @bullymaguire6388

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yohaanpatel2736 which has a severe shortage of exclusives

  • @bullymaguire6388

    @bullymaguire6388

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yohaanpatel2736 most if not all of them are all available on PCs

  • @pmarreck

    @pmarreck

    3 жыл бұрын

    I LOL’ed at this, too. Hey, competition is good! But I hope everything goes to ARM soon. Windows’ Intel emulation on ARM is shit, though. You’d think they’d be intimately familiar with Intel by now given how they’ve been fucking married to them for literally dozens of years

  • @fhm4
    @fhm43 жыл бұрын

    i think we're seeing a Steve Jobs level move, by his elected CEO.

  • @realkrzaku

    @realkrzaku

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stop the Steve Jobs cult, he wasn't a good guy.

  • @raczakjakub1152

    @raczakjakub1152

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@realkrzaku Who said he was a good guy. He was smart and knew how to use the tools and people he had to create revolutionary devices.

  • @alphazar

    @alphazar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@realkrzaku he wasn't a good guy, he was the GOAT!

  • @danielalorbi

    @danielalorbi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alphazar Amen?

  • @kendrajahnea

    @kendrajahnea

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@realkrzaku what did he do?

  • @iammashdots
    @iammashdots3 жыл бұрын

    never realized that i would live to see a different kind of ARMs race

  • @alrichmond4341
    @alrichmond43413 жыл бұрын

    Merci pour la reconnaissance à la fin du tournage ;-) Certainement, "Rest at the end, not in the middle" ;-))

  • @joaots2571
    @joaots25713 жыл бұрын

    Rosetta 2 is amazing. Apple developer team did a brilliant job

  • @OneDerscoreOneder

    @OneDerscoreOneder

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what’s to come with M2

  • @TheGabbaKeks

    @TheGabbaKeks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@OneDerscoreOneder I think people do tend to misinterpreted M1 capabilities. The ARM design has huge capabilities in terms of power efficiency. That's why it's performance is great in thin and light laptop's and also in specialized server environments. As always there is a price to pay and that's raw horsepower and flexibility. X86 CISC instructions offer far more capabilities, which ARM can't execute. That's why X86 won't loose to ARM like it's suggested in lots of reviews out there. X86 just has a new competitor in the thin and light low power compute sector. In complex executions ARM will loose because of its RISC based architecture. www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-x86-key-differences-explained-568718/amp/

  • @gmt1
    @gmt13 жыл бұрын

    I'm still amazed they can do all this on such low wattage, and even though it doesn't scale linearly, I really wanna see bigger ARM chips in the future at higher wattage.

  • @Dudewitbow

    @Dudewitbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    ARM starts to lose a bit of its efficiency when scaled to a larger die, though thats not arms biggest problem right now. Arm designed laptops biggest problem right now is having enough lanes for peripherals (storage, graphics and any add in card functionality). Because laptops don't need the extra lanes as much, laptops are viable but it is likely not viable for desktop replacements in its current state.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    One thing that helps is that Apple’s ARM machines are completely integrated and locked down. You can’t even upgrade the RAM. So they can fine-tune everything to work exactly right with everything else, without the need to worry about a range of possible hardware configurations.

  • @andersoncunha7079

    @andersoncunha7079

    3 жыл бұрын

    they are around and probably becoming more common soon with all cloud providers trying to catch up to AWS graviton2 chips (which did already beat intel's performance for less money months ago on AWS) plus nuvia saying they have something better than m1 and nvidia buying arm and trying so hard to get a super computer contract using it...

  • @andersoncunha7079

    @andersoncunha7079

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Christopher Grant not trying to hurt anyone's feelings or say intel is dead... topic was about arm evolution... my point it that it's gaining traction in sectors that demand more and change fast. Quite a few players are throwing money at/trying to sell the idea, down the line this will reach us. For my case, aws, it's very very attractive, since you save good money without much effort... I see their competitors trying to get to it too and this competition leads to innovation.

  • @bestbroseph1258
    @bestbroseph12583 жыл бұрын

    i love the linus meme backgrounds on every new device that is shown

  • @benedictodiptasuta9306
    @benedictodiptasuta93063 жыл бұрын

    I do really appreciate Apple's job on the 'secret ingredient' of having a specialized hardware that could translate x86 instructions to ARM seamlessly. Because as you know, Hardware stuff like this is definitely better than a software emulation. Perhaps this is the only worth to buy macs on my opinion (All m1s, from Macbook air, Macbook pro, and Mac mini)

  • @2muchofyou

    @2muchofyou

    Жыл бұрын

    these are native 64 bit processors right? i thought 32 bit could easily run on 64bit without emulation?

  • @MaddTheSane

    @MaddTheSane

    Жыл бұрын

    @@2muchofyou Depends on the architecture: On Intel, that is the case. On ARMv8, it depends on if the CPU supports AARCH32. The M1 (and A series released after Apple dropped 32-bit support on iOS) doesn't have AARCH32 support.

  • @clappedcheeks3504
    @clappedcheeks35043 жыл бұрын

    "Only using apps with native arm and don't do anything intensive you ~~can~~ have a normal use" is not what I would pay 1600 dollars for.

  • @DanielHarrisCodes

    @DanielHarrisCodes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally get your point, this is expensive for what it is. But I don't think it's fair to say that all emulated software runs like crap on Windows - I use a tool called WinMerge quite a lot, it's just as fast on the Pro X running emulated x64 as my Surface Book 2 i7 - Granted it's a fairly simple app that is CPU not GPU intensive at all, but it runs great, same with a lot of software. Compare that to x86 Visual Studio 2019 which takes an age to get going (runs "OK" once you're loaded into a project) and you do notice how slow emulation of some software is. I think WoA has a problem with emulation of GPU intensive x86 apps, pretty sure I read shortly after it's release that for emulated apps all graphics rendering is software based, but could be wrong. I don't use Chrome on any of my devices, but I know some picky people who've used Chrome emulated on Pro X and didn't complain, I'd expect them to right away if they noticed a performance issue. Hope that the emulation will improve but would have preferred some real-world comparisons for this video rather than just benchmark apps

  • @insertfunnynamehere9910
    @insertfunnynamehere99103 жыл бұрын

    I have mastered the art of skipping 20 seconds at the perfect time so it drops me at the end of the intro

  • @saniks5070

    @saniks5070

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you are a regular viewer It's like a reflect

  • @insertfunnynamehere9910

    @insertfunnynamehere9910

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao look at these bots

  • @senecaaurelius250

    @senecaaurelius250

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol same

  • @PeachyTech

    @PeachyTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    I watch the intro and when the ad comes up i tap --> key twice and it goes right to the end of that little music sequence.

  • @souljastation5463

    @souljastation5463

    3 жыл бұрын

    Three taps on android, it's not that difficult.

  • @orichardson440
    @orichardson4403 жыл бұрын

    ARM actually started on desktops, so I guess it's gone full circle. ARM = Acorn RISC Machine (originally) From Acorn Computers, so named because it appeared before Apple in a phonebook. Damn I'm old...

  • @matrinoxtm
    @matrinoxtm3 жыл бұрын

    “People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware”

  • @shubi454

    @shubi454

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alan K

  • @amaledward2147

    @amaledward2147

    3 жыл бұрын

    MS was never serious about anything

  • @BrendonGreenNZL

    @BrendonGreenNZL

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's very well known that Apple is a hardware company, and they always have been; they only write and sell software because the hardware is largely useless without it.

  • @ee99858

    @ee99858

    2 жыл бұрын

    BASED

  • @Kringlord97
    @Kringlord973 жыл бұрын

    Classic example of how no one, even Microsoft, really cares about anything until Apple does it

  • @Dare2Blink

    @Dare2Blink

    3 жыл бұрын

    What are you smoking.... Microsoft has been doing it way before apple. Its more of a classic example of what happens when you don't make your own chips and have to rely to third party manufacturers.

  • @wta1518

    @wta1518

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me fix your comment: No one notices that Microsoft is doing something until Apple starts doing it and calls it an innovation.

  • @nichtsicher422

    @nichtsicher422

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wta1518 The innovation is that the cheaper "Apple Version" actually has more performance than the more expensive Windows version. Most people don't bother if someone built something similar before, they just bother if it runs good and if it has enough performance to satisfy their needs.

  • @pinyal123

    @pinyal123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wta1518 it’s not innovation if it sucks and no one likes it

  • @tubelessrim

    @tubelessrim

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wta1518 Keep smoking that Microsoft crystal meth, you are hilarious! It must really really hurt to see these vids eh! The M1 is literally innovation. That Surface Pro wouldn't have got past Apple's quality control in a million years. A company making something first that's a pile of shite is anything but innovative, all it is is still just a pile of shite that no one in their right mind would pay 1600 dollars for

  • @thechemtrailkid
    @thechemtrailkid3 жыл бұрын

    That virtualized Windows machine running on the M1 BEATING the native Windows machine kills me in the best way

  • @marceelino

    @marceelino

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's not beating native windows. watch the video again.

  • @Stahlreck

    @Stahlreck

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shows how terrible Qualcomm ARM is IMO. It's pretty much the same story on Android too...they just fall so flat compared to Apples smartphone chips. Let's see if MS own chips can close the gape...if they put the effort in.

  • @thechemtrailkid

    @thechemtrailkid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marceelino it did lol 7:03. ARM windows being virtualized on the M1 beats ARM windows running natively on the SQ2

  • @marceelino

    @marceelino

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thechemtrailkid those results are weird as Android phones are having higher scores in geek bench than that windows

  • @thechemtrailkid

    @thechemtrailkid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marceelino its not weird that the Apple machine beat the Microsoft one since it is much, much more powerful

  • @hybridinfodesk409
    @hybridinfodesk4093 жыл бұрын

    I use Libre Office for my office suite. Then I have Samsung Note which I use on my phone too. Of course, DEX work and the other Samsung apps. It's a great experience.

  • @peterg4130
    @peterg41303 жыл бұрын

    "how did Microsoft screw this up?" "It's Microsoft"

  • @paristath6773

    @paristath6773

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMAOAOA

  • @bryanmiller476

    @bryanmiller476

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ask the Zune how it’s doing today? Lol

  • @bullymaguire6388

    @bullymaguire6388

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bryanmiller476 laughs in Lumia.

  • @sem_aki
    @sem_aki3 жыл бұрын

    Man I feel like Qualcomm is still trying to catch up since the A7

  • @tylerryandaughtry

    @tylerryandaughtry

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly that has been my real takeaway from the M1 Qualcomm is trash and so far behind

  • @nuckerball1259

    @nuckerball1259

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerryandaughtry Yup apple pulled far ahead with the 64bit a series chips and qualcomm has played catch up ever since

  • @LordBrizz

    @LordBrizz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Qualcomm is garbage and only propped up by the fact they shut down all of their competition early on. We have known for years that they are the cause of bad performance, heat profiles, throttling issues, battery life issues on Android and everything else. They need to be dropped like bad eggs.

  • @sarfrazsikandar

    @sarfrazsikandar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Qualcomm don't develop their own processor. They take off the shelf arm design, tinker here and there and slap cryo on its name. Until arm develop a serious desktop processor, we will always get shitty processors.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which makes it hard for Windows. ARM Windows can only run on Qualcomm-family chips, not on ARM chips from anybody else. Unlike Linux.

  • @foreverduke4059
    @foreverduke40593 жыл бұрын

    Ah, apple vs microsoft : the age old rivalry.

  • @wizcombo

    @wizcombo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except this time it is lopsided

  • @spamspasm8183

    @spamspasm8183

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSal445 It's not that simple. We simply cannot ignore software in this argument.

  • @ericwang9453

    @ericwang9453

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSal445 isn’t Rosetta doing a lot of heavy lifting though? Qualcomm chips for mobile phones are very competitive with Apple silicon, it always comes down to the software that makes the huge difference in Apple devices.

  • @thefire_kyuubi684

    @thefire_kyuubi684

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can't compare phones to laptops. Apple software is optimized for specific hardware, a luxury that most phone manufacturers share. That's not to say we can't call out Microsoft for a underwhelming product. But, you really can't compare performance between phones and laptops.

  • @JimmyFung172

    @JimmyFung172

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrSal445 I think it's both Microsoft and Qualcomm to blame on for this matter...SQ2 can't even compete with Qualcomm's own mobile chip Snapdragon 865, and Microsoft failed to create a x86 emulation that's close to Rosetta 2

  • @roccociccone597
    @roccociccone5976 ай бұрын

    Here we are 2 years later and Windows on ARM is still spectacularly horrendous.

  • @haruyanto8085

    @haruyanto8085

    20 күн бұрын

    And windows 11 is getting worse, yay adware and bloatwsre

  • @hiro4476
    @hiro44763 жыл бұрын

    I cannot replace PC with an iPad. Take browser for example. If I want to compare 2 pages side by side, on Windows, I can ctrl+n, alt+d, type something, enter, win+left, ctrl+n, alt+d, type something, enter, win+right. On iPad....................... There's no menu key on iPad too. How about clicking a link during MS Teams meeting?

  • @mikeandersonwa
    @mikeandersonwa3 жыл бұрын

    I honestly feel like I've fallen into a parallel reality seeing how much Linus actually loves the new Apple Silicon transition. I'm really glad Apple was able to pull this off, and honestly pumped to see what the M1X and M2 chips look like as they continue this rollout, because the next year or two for Apple could be absolutely mind blowing.

  • @random-accessmemory9201

    @random-accessmemory9201

    2 жыл бұрын

    *M1 Max and M1 Pro

  • @JasonZakrajsek

    @JasonZakrajsek

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@random-accessmemory9201 they hadn’t been announced when the comment was written. No need to correct them.

  • @random-accessmemory9201

    @random-accessmemory9201

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JasonZakrajsek Yeah i know. I also know that was the rumored name of the chips before. That’s why I’m correcting (updating) the name of the chips now.

  • @nagireddy225
    @nagireddy2253 жыл бұрын

    7:37 linus if you change Mac Book air SSD to 256GB to match Surface pro X then its a 400 dollers difference.

  • @Syuvinya

    @Syuvinya

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@applesilicon6863 Waiting for 16" pro is also a good option

  • @jameltanderson

    @jameltanderson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Syuvinya when though?

  • @1234legomaker

    @1234legomaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jameltanderson shouldn't be too long, the 16inch needs an update.

  • @yes-vy6bn

    @yes-vy6bn

    3 жыл бұрын

    linus is becoming a cesspool of misinformation..

  • @Syuvinya

    @Syuvinya

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yes-vy6bn ok?

  • @Dragon1276
    @Dragon12763 жыл бұрын

    Apple has never stood still with their chips, even though they could have. You have to remember that the M1 is not in any high-end machines. What happens when they design silicon for that?

  • @shreshthrai9879

    @shreshthrai9879

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the words of great Vikings from httyd 1 “all hell breaks lose ........” “And my undies good thing I brought extras”

  • @cat1554

    @cat1554

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well.

  • @jippalippa
    @jippalippa2 жыл бұрын

    April 2022 here; Almost all apps have been updated to be apple silicon native. I still don't hear anything about Windows on ARM and apps being able to run on it.

  • @mini-_
    @mini-_3 жыл бұрын

    We've seen Windows 10's rollout, we know how Microsoft can screw up.

  • @MiGujack3

    @MiGujack3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Windows 8... Vista...

  • @svenesven8703

    @svenesven8703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MiGujack3 came here to say the same win10 was their smoothest in years lol. That's not a very high bar to set. But still.

  • @madr1x

    @madr1x

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@svenesven8703 Do you not remember they forced the upgrade to win10 on win7/8/8.1? It was the most disastrous releave ever by microsoft, youre litteraly wrong

  • @rwyo83

    @rwyo83

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just install Windows 10X on a MacBook

  • @SpltPersonaltyOF

    @SpltPersonaltyOF

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@madr1x ummm anything is an upgrade from Windows 7 lol. The free upgrade was mostly painless for me.

  • @seebertnestetep336
    @seebertnestetep3363 жыл бұрын

    "The Arm Architecture has finally arrived on a desktop operating system." *Frustrated Linux Noises*

  • @MasterGeekMX

    @MasterGeekMX

    3 жыл бұрын

    No if you go debian/fedora/manjaro

  • @josearaujo8616

    @josearaujo8616

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine what Microsoft can do if they open up the Xbox for video editing...

  • @davidfodre1375

    @davidfodre1375

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@josearaujo8616 There would be an even lower supply of consoles, not something people need right now

  • @sparkybutts142

    @sparkybutts142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidfodre1375 I mean, they don’t NEED a console at all lol

  • @RhysWilliamsEsq

    @RhysWilliamsEsq

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about the Acorn Archimedes series 😁🤣🤣

  • @decfairlight3228
    @decfairlight32283 жыл бұрын

    The thing that still worries me about ARM is that a lot of manufacturers seem to have taken the move to ARM to mean the move to it being acceptable to sell consumers un-repairable glued together slabs without upgradable memory or socketed cpus. Plus it seems like the only people making good ARM chips right now are also OS owners and I would prefer more companies rather than fewer making my computer hardware.

  • @damian._.grmaden
    @damian._.grmaden3 жыл бұрын

    Can we all appreciate how he used Mac book AIR of all macs to demolish Microsoft

  • @LlamaFluff
    @LlamaFluff3 жыл бұрын

    5:17, I didn’t know Geekbench used FPS as a score.

  • @teh_hunterer

    @teh_hunterer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @pangkan270

    @pangkan270

    3 жыл бұрын

    Woweee 7.5k fps!!??

  • @aniruddhaOG

    @aniruddhaOG

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

  • @DomiaAbrWyrda

    @DomiaAbrWyrda

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol nice find!

  • @elahisam3485
    @elahisam34853 жыл бұрын

    "its not a beanie, its a toque" great words said by linus tech tips

  • @brentsmithline3423
    @brentsmithline34233 жыл бұрын

    What I would like to see is a version of Windows 10 ARM that could either dual boot, or even better yet run side by side with the macOS/UNIX ARM. This was done before, and can be done again.

  • @kyrylotaranenko3678
    @kyrylotaranenko36783 жыл бұрын

    What is the chair Linus is sitting on during the last videos? I'm in search of a good chair and the material looks interesting.

  • @MarcosMendezJ
    @MarcosMendezJ3 жыл бұрын

    I feel ripped off when I bought that 2015 surface.

  • @cameronb8503

    @cameronb8503

    3 жыл бұрын

    I almost made that same mistake, but luckily bought the surface pro 3 instead and it still works great. The salesman was really pushing the surface 3 but when he told me it was a non x86 device and everything would have to come from the Microsoft store, I legitimately laughed in his face

  • @reggiexp69

    @reggiexp69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Almost got thr first model for 100€ but like Windows arm... Fuk that

  • @daniloivensmina

    @daniloivensmina

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel sad for you. Jumped on the windows mobile bandwagon and got abandoned. I know the feels

  • @TheExileFox

    @TheExileFox

    3 жыл бұрын

    at least it did get jailbreak so you could use some stuff on it. I'd keep my 11 inch Lenovo Yoga RT if linux had been released for it but that never happened.

  • @frego24

    @frego24

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Surface Pro 4 a few years ago. Now the battery is bloated and damaged the display, and is a potential fire hazard. Microsoft Support basically told me to fuck off. I hate Microsoft. Of all the Tech-Giants they are clearly the least competent and worst for user experience.

  • @narcissisticnarcissus4956
    @narcissisticnarcissus49563 жыл бұрын

    For me Windows has been the "if I *have* to use it OS" (gaming) for many many years. *Everything* else is better in MacOS and/or Linux. For example programming on Windows is painful, except in some edge cases.

  • @eniwanogho1229

    @eniwanogho1229

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can u throw more light on your "painful programming experience" using Windows OS

  • @robertszynal4745

    @robertszynal4745

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing you haven't tried it since they release WSL2 and Terminal. I'm a DevOps Engineer and It's amazing now. Actual Linux would obviously be better but if you don't have that choice then you really can just whichever of Windows or OSX you prefer. OSX isn't perfect, it's BSD versions of applications do not always work the same way as they do for Linux (looks at sed). Personally, I prefer actual Linux running on Windows to the uncanny valley of OSX, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

  • @chromehalos
    @chromehalos3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I love the effort.

  • @flanoop1774
    @flanoop17742 жыл бұрын

    I have a windows surface (for school) and it isn’t on ARM, which I believe may be the reason my school refuses to upgrade our laptops. We’re expected to use Adobe programs (even the our 4gbs or ram tend to make that difficult) I just wish the school would give up and in the next year ask us to use non-surface laptops, the tablet mode hasn’t been used since Year 7 art class.

  • @w3therby
    @w3therby3 жыл бұрын

    4:17 I'm loving the goofy over-acting from Riley in the B-Roll here.

  • @RmDIrSudoSu
    @RmDIrSudoSu3 жыл бұрын

    During that time at the linux fundation : "Are they still trying to get things working on ARM?"

  • @bernardonegri5416

    @bernardonegri5416

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok, if you run this 90 word long command, we found out that 2 programs work but the system crashes.

  • @RmDIrSudoSu

    @RmDIrSudoSu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bernardonegri5416 auto completion is your friend, no need to enter all the 90 words! Plus you can write scripts! And many more things! Linux install you must! Yoda

  • @user-ec9gh8hq9j

    @user-ec9gh8hq9j

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bernardonegri5416 Please read what you write before posting it.

  • @_sparrowhawk
    @_sparrowhawk3 жыл бұрын

    “So maybe the Surface Pro X has suffered enough” ... Okay I lol’d that was good

  • @19Msoles
    @19Msoles3 жыл бұрын

    Can we please mention how apples retina display looks a million times better as well?

  • @clancywall713
    @clancywall7133 жыл бұрын

    Intel be like: “I’m in danger”

  • @carholic-sz3qv

    @carholic-sz3qv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really

  • @yummyhershey5902

    @yummyhershey5902

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@carholic-sz3qv they have a few years to figure things out, but they can’t continue how they currently are. In terms of market share they’ve been dominating for the last decade, but their processors are really falling behind in the desktop, laptop, and server/enterprise spaces. AMD has gained a lot of market share for desktop CPUs. Intel’s market share in the laptop space is at risk because of these M1 Macs and AMD’s more efficient Ryzen chips. Their enterprise chips offer many more cores for the price. If Intel doesn’t do anything they will end up in trouble.

  • @yummyhershey5902

    @yummyhershey5902

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eduardobragaxz well Intel certainly knows more about processors than I do, so they probably had a logical reason. From my understanding both architectures have their strengths and weaknesses. They didn’t see the weaknesses of the ARM architecture being suitable for desktop use, so they never tried it. Perhaps Apple found a new strength after they continued developing their ARM architecture processors for phones which allowed them create such a strong performer for a laptop.

  • @tylerlovesmacs

    @tylerlovesmacs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eduardobragaxz What it really comes down to is support. Microsoft has to take the step for everyone and bring a chip, an OS, and some way to help people transition from x86 to have ARM take off. Intel can't just create 30 core 120 thread ARM processor and sell it for anything. What OS are you going to run it on, Windows ARM? That up until recently, couldn't really run anything beyond Microsofts hardware? Even that wouldn't be enough to paint the picture to OEM's to follow suit. Microsoft has to paint the picture for everyone, and show everyone why its better. Intel won't take that financial risk with so little support, so Microsoft has to make the chip, show legacy software working, and show everyone that ARM will be better for everyone in the medium to long run.

  • @thebuddercweeper

    @thebuddercweeper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerlovesmacs Absolutely correct, Intel and Microsoft would have to work together if Windows on ARM is going to gain any traction. That’s Apple’s advantage with M1, they don’t sell an OS, a processor or just an assembly of parts, they sell a product.

  • @niaomipeck
    @niaomipeck3 жыл бұрын

    I love all the great laptop reviews and showcases lately, it's awesome to see the newest desktop hardware and all but it's nice to see LTT give some love to the thin and light laptop enthusiasts! Keep up the great work!

  • @lethenparkesTeamRacc
    @lethenparkesTeamRacc Жыл бұрын

    there was ARM oses before Windows and macOS that were desktop aided like back in the 90s (AcornOS)

  • @Saimiri1334
    @Saimiri13342 жыл бұрын

    You got something wrong. In comparison the m1 air is about 400$ cheaper. You said „100“, but in your comparison it’s 190$. Also you chose the 512gb version vs the 256gb version of the surface pro x.

  • @SwuuschifyMe
    @SwuuschifyMe3 жыл бұрын

    3:58 you can literally see how smooth the macbook zooms in, while on windows its laggy as hell...

  • @chromaticvisuelle

    @chromaticvisuelle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I saw it too

  • @ikjadoon

    @ikjadoon

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 60 FPS crowd would *actually* love MacOS on M1. It refuses to drop frames. I can drop frames just by Win+Tab'ing on my Intel Ice Lake laptop on battery 😂 😭

  • @roomie4rent
    @roomie4rent3 жыл бұрын

    "Glorified Chromebook" -Ouch

  • @zeza8603
    @zeza86033 жыл бұрын

    Whenever my wife here's Linus talking she know's our checking account is about to take a hit...

  • @budgettechandgaming6956
    @budgettechandgaming69563 жыл бұрын

    Watching this on my M1 MacBook Air. Honestly real world use is actually amazing. I am a student that doesn't do 8k video exporting or anything. I do code Python tho and it can run absolutely no problem even with like 6-8 apps running. BTW if u need a ;laptop that lasts the whole day, I can work 6-7 hours online and STILL have a little above 50% when I get home. I am genuinely shocked.

  • @themanape

    @themanape

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's your config?

  • @jamesmurdock6689
    @jamesmurdock66893 жыл бұрын

    I love that background on the mac!

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