How did Ashkenazim become White-Eligible? (Jewish Communities of Color Part I)

First lecture in the Jewish Communities of Color series, looking briefly at the archaeological and biblical suggestions of color and then focusing on recent DNA studies of medieval Jewish remains, and discussing how Ashkenazim became white-eligible. Delivered via Zoom to the Beth Jacob Congregation of Beverly Hills CA on November 30, 2022.
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  • @billzen
    @billzen Жыл бұрын

    As a Brooklyn-born Molecular Biologist, I am overjoyed with this magnificent synthesis of Jewish history and science. I cannot wait to bless my bookshelf with your forthcoming publications. Many thanks!

  • @ejay1726

    @ejay1726

    Жыл бұрын

    What history. Their conversation, and the stealing of Israel with the help of the united nations.

  • @Frodojack

    @Frodojack

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ejay1726 Hmm... modern Israel didn't exist until 1948, so it couldn't have been stolen from anyone. It was a British protectorate before that, and Turkish territory before that, go back several hundred years before that and it was under the Romans. Go farther back in time to the previous state of Israel it was a Jewish (or Israeli) nation. So there is no time when it was stolen. Maybe you should complain about the Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Muslims and Turks who stole it from the previous occupants.

  • @devintaylor8702

    @devintaylor8702

    Жыл бұрын

    I Love Israel 🇮🇱❤and all of the Jewish ✡People

  • @damonking76

    @damonking76

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Frodojack IT NEVER WAS AN ITSREALIE[ BALFOUR AGREEMENT] NATION AT NO TIME IN TRUE-STORY VS HI$-$TORY!!! WE MUST STOP EQUATING CON-VERTING TO A REAL-LIE-IGION AS ETHNICITY!!! RESEARCH THIS CON-FU$$ION AND WHERE IT ALL CAME FROM!!! YOU WILL BE ENLIGHTENED

  • @Frodojack

    @Frodojack

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TwelveTribesForever You also have mental issues because that makes no sense at all.

  • @mikebalis9963
    @mikebalis9963 Жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy Dr. Abrahmson's lectures. Sir, you always take the high road through some contentious territory.

  • @ruchi750
    @ruchi750 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating! Thank you so much for compiling this and sharing it with us

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    You are very welcome! Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @traceycroxford8880
    @traceycroxford8880 Жыл бұрын

    Such an interesting presentation. Thank you!

  • @michaelcowen6137
    @michaelcowen6137 Жыл бұрын

    Baruch Hashem Rabbi! Thank you! Always terrific content.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you enjoyed the lectures! Thank you for your kind feedback!

  • @lovmovement8477
    @lovmovement8477 Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always well thought & illuminating. As a non-Jew & fellow human, wishing you all the best. Keep up the great work. Peace & love

  • @EuphoniaPooch
    @EuphoniaPooch Жыл бұрын

    Henry, you have been a great discovery. I've really enjoyed learning all this.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the videos! Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @michelleg7
    @michelleg7 Жыл бұрын

    Very good presentation as always Dr. Abramson 😀

  • @mmccbb7mcb278
    @mmccbb7mcb278 Жыл бұрын

    Quite possibly your best presentation yet Henry. Spoken from the heart, yet packed with much fascinating material. As Ashkenazi myself and having lived in Israel for two years I was always amazed at the diversity of the Jewish people around me. You answered many of the questions I had.

  • @lookatmepleasesir

    @lookatmepleasesir

    Жыл бұрын

    and you even see that in the samaritans where some of them are gingers and some of them look like indians

  • @philliparieff7862

    @philliparieff7862

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lookatmepleasesir When my then 8 year old (now a Dad in his 40's) son and I planned and made a trip to visit the Holon Samaritan community, our Host was a striking redhead, as were other people we observed. So yes, redheadedness, and I must say, that distinctive redheadedness seen among Ashkenazim, is very noticeable among the Samaritans. I note as well, that back when my wife and I were dating, one of the girls in the group we socialized with as a Persian-Israeli girl with long red hair.

  • @anitanance5000

    @anitanance5000

    Жыл бұрын

    Lies

  • @LiiveWiire

    @LiiveWiire

    Жыл бұрын

    IT SURE IS.... BUT NOT FOR THE REASON YOU GUYS THINK IT IS! 🤣 THIS LECTURE IS DAMAGING TO THE YEW-WISH PPL

  • @carolinospelt2932
    @carolinospelt2932 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this fascinating topic!

  • @robyrcmp
    @robyrcmp Жыл бұрын

    G-d bless your commentary. It speaks to me and my longing for clarity of the past and all the long years since the dispersal which I have also studied. You fill in so many great details. My thanks for your work and the great value of it.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful! I;m glad that you find the video meaningful and I thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @robyrcmp

    @robyrcmp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HenryAbramsonPhD may G-D bless you richly.

  • @fifidjc7882
    @fifidjc7882 Жыл бұрын

    What you explain has a very good sense. Thank you

  • @laurenannkattner7030
    @laurenannkattner7030 Жыл бұрын

    One thing I really like is how you readily work with new research such as DNA evidence to come up with new and important conclusions.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Definitely a challenge for us historians trained with other methodologies.

  • @Azaryahuyisrael

    @Azaryahuyisrael

    Жыл бұрын

    Study haplogroup E and you will find the Shemites and sons of Abraham

  • @Melungeonpeople

    @Melungeonpeople

    Жыл бұрын

    My family has returned thru conversion. We have tested 13 individuals from 9 different unrelated families from Alabama, North Carolina, Maryland, West Virginia, and Virginia. We did autosomal DNA which includes all related ancestors not just father and mother. We tested two black, one brown and the rest white presenting people who are from rural and long established families. Everyone came back Hispanic, Jewish and Native American. None had British DNA and very little western DNA except Iberia. We match South Africa, Northern Africa, the Berbers, Poland... everywhere the Jewish Diaspora is currently as well as Israel. Potentially there are 100 million people in the South East with Jewish DNA.

  • @laurenannkattner7030

    @laurenannkattner7030

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Melungeonpeople Wow! This is amazing.

  • @houseoflev
    @houseoflev Жыл бұрын

    Hello Dr. Abramson!! First of all this lecture was very educational and very timely. Answered a lot of questions for us. And WOW!!!!!!! We were expecting to see our channel featured in your lecture. We are incredibly humbled and honored. Thank you so very much for your love and support. Your words warmed our hearts!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 And yes we cried… 😊

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    You and your wife are doing great work; I appreciate the enthusiasm that comes through in your videos. Wishing you much success!

  • @houseoflev

    @houseoflev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HenryAbramsonPhD thank you so very much!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 We appreciate you!

  • @majuscule8883

    @majuscule8883

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@HenryAbramsonPhD I am not Jewish but I love listen to you and the modern story of Ashkenazim Jews is so beautiful. You are a great teacher, Please continue the great work . God bless.

  • @rochellesiegel5199

    @rochellesiegel5199

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @nowba33
    @nowba33 Жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bethcares17anonymous38
    @bethcares17anonymous38 Жыл бұрын

    Grateful for your love and acceptance and messages! ❤

  • @joemosely9383
    @joemosely9383 Жыл бұрын

    This Guy is so Reasonable & Logical !!

  • @moxiechacha1146
    @moxiechacha1146 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful topic, thank you! It makes sense to me since I had my dna done and Sephardi and Ashkenazi are both present as well as some Italian dna! Wow!

  • @venessamaxwell8105

    @venessamaxwell8105

    Жыл бұрын

    Italian makes much sense. Its so cool

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    Жыл бұрын

    You're like most humans: mixed.

  • @tahliah6691

    @tahliah6691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@busterbiloxi3833 most humans are not mixed… travel the world and you will see most people have never left their towns or villages ever whether they live in Africa Asia or Europe dna shows that a huge number are still 100% in dna

  • @muslimcrusader5987

    @muslimcrusader5987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tahliah6691 yup. Mixed people are minority even in multiracial countries.

  • @muslimcrusader5987

    @muslimcrusader5987

    Жыл бұрын

    @@busterbiloxi3833 Most Humans are genetically homogeneous.

  • @wandaonipede5146
    @wandaonipede5146 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Rabbi Abramson I always follow your lectures and I find it fascinating please keep up a good job May Hashem Bless you thank you again

  • @imaimelevationmedical.5024
    @imaimelevationmedical.5024 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this Rabbi, we need more unity and understanding. Baruch HaShem!

  • @spjew
    @spjew Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful, informative video. Thank you, from Beersheva, Israel.

  • @xtremefight
    @xtremefight Жыл бұрын

    Although this is probably just piecing together a "best guess" out of what we have, I commend your efforts. The topic can be quite nebulous and fuzzy. Loved the wholesale luggage line! :-) As a great person taught me when I was young, take what you're doing very seriously but never take yourself too serious.

  • @Banana04218
    @Banana04218 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic webinar, thank you!

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you enjoyed it!

  • @mmpontos
    @mmpontosАй бұрын

    Wow thank you, I really like what you're doing with the channel!! This week's format was especially delightful

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 Жыл бұрын

    I discovered Dr Abramson channel and I learned a lot of things about my own country history especially the role of Jewish communities. One mistake usually done in media is to present everything as an experience of oppression and discrimination and ignore the ways in which people cooperated and created things together.

  • @yashabenyishrael120
    @yashabenyishrael120 Жыл бұрын

    Im Black ànd Im Jewish. Bless you for you are à blessing to this world ahk

  • @lanziemusic6739

    @lanziemusic6739

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're black you are an Israelite, Jewish people are Gentiles

  • @Linfit4ever7
    @Linfit4ever7 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent lecture. Thank you!

  • @TigerLilyBlossom1
    @TigerLilyBlossom15 ай бұрын

    I’m really enjoying your channel and lectures . Thank you!

  • @ItsTheQs
    @ItsTheQs Жыл бұрын

    Truly strong presentation that covered a lot of ground - from Benjamin of Tudela's observations, the BHI movement in the US, and the bottom line of Ashkenazic origins and identity. And then focusing on what's most important - both truth and acceptance. An objective and grounded approach that is lacking in such discussions from most sides.

  • @hiswillbedone642

    @hiswillbedone642

    Жыл бұрын

    And yet the source he quoted which is in their literature says that their founders were converts. Sheeple will just listen and not actually do their own research he knew that lol shame on you

  • @ItsTheQs

    @ItsTheQs

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@hiswillbedone642 Hey, appreciate your comment. Please provide the sources you're referring to in a link here, as I'm not clear what you're referring to. Thanks -

  • @ItsTheQs

    @ItsTheQs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hiswillbedone642 Oh you mean that the Matrilineal line has Italian converts. Yeah I don't believe I, or he, disputed that.

  • @BushaBandulu
    @BushaBandulu Жыл бұрын

    @Prof Henry Abramson: I just subscribed. U have a new fan. 😊 Shalom 🙏🏾

  • @SteveFirefly777
    @SteveFirefly777 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another fascinating lecture.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @SteveFirefly777

    @SteveFirefly777

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HenryAbramsonPhD yesterday I used parts of this lecture to respond to some ‘Black Hebrew Israelites’. They inundated me with lengthy replies, which I intend to ignore. Thanks for the lecture.

  • @epicurius1
    @epicurius1 Жыл бұрын

    Something interesting is that we find an even earlier Jewish presence on the Rhine. There are two fourth century documents by Emperor Constantine, one giving the Jews of Cologne the right to serve in local government office, and the other, permission for Cologne to build a synagogue.

  • @dang1351
    @dang1351 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Abramson, when do you think Koren might publish that 3-part Jewish history you referenced in the video? I can't wait to get my hands on it!

  • @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Abramson had earlier estimated that Koren Publishers will publish his series in 2023, 2024, and 2025 and that the title might be "The Jewish People: A History".

  • @jeffreysilverman3633
    @jeffreysilverman36335 ай бұрын

    Dear Dr. Abramson, Thank you for this fascinating video!! I always enjoy learning from you!!

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    5 ай бұрын

    You are very welcome!

  • @geraldoarnoldo6440
    @geraldoarnoldo6440Ай бұрын

    Love the spirit of your discussions. Bless you.

  • @RobinHerzig
    @RobinHerzig Жыл бұрын

    Glad this topic is covered. Last video someone trolled me in the comments for asking about DNA research following migratory patterns. Not that I can't slay a troll 😄

  • @jeffreywalsby4878
    @jeffreywalsby4878 Жыл бұрын

    I am an Ashkenazi Jew and I think the thing that has makesb it hard for us now has been the fact that we parade as though we are "White" when in fact it is more accurate to say that we (Askenazim) are mixed. Some of us are as White as are contemporary Europeans and others are of Middle Eastern backgrounds.

  • @gj-po9oy

    @gj-po9oy

    Жыл бұрын

    We are not mixed except by halachic conversion. We are Semites.

  • @951deuce

    @951deuce

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's be real and use common sense...your biblical nationality is amalek period. WE READ NOW

  • @jeffreywalsby4878

    @jeffreywalsby4878

    Жыл бұрын

    @@951deuce what do you mean? You think that there is something called the the "Jewish Race" from a genetic point of view. Science is increasingly pointing out that all human communities are mixed. There are no pure races and there probably haven't been for thousand of years. Now, I;d like them do a study where they compare Neanderthal DNA in both Jewish and East Asian communities to see which communities have more Neanderthal admixture: Jews or East Asians.

  • @devintaylor8702

    @devintaylor8702

    Жыл бұрын

    I Love All Israel 🇮🇱 and all of Abraham's Jewish Children ✡ I love all of you all ❤❤❤❤

  • @Gunslinger65

    @Gunslinger65

    Жыл бұрын

    Knowledge hasn't a color, just as both truth and justice are color blind!

  • @Hellogbengoose
    @Hellogbengoose Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for touching on this topic …

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 Жыл бұрын

    I always smile at least 3 😁 times in your soliloquies...even though your information is worthy of attention.

  • @RivieraRegimeTV
    @RivieraRegimeTV Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your important work in preserving and educating this ignorant and bigoted world.

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 Жыл бұрын

    You are nicely groomed and Charismatic in your disposition.

  • @krisjustin3884
    @krisjustin38843 ай бұрын

    Henry gives such interesting webinars supported by remarkable facts from a variety of sources! Highly recommend Henry! 👍

  • @carrollrhodes4050
    @carrollrhodes4050 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Abramson: The Jews coming from the Spanish Inquisition to the British Isles were "white" eligible. Except for when the gene for dark skin color came to the surface and all the way to the present day you were and are considered non -white. My father was incarcerated in North Carolina in a prison for Negros because of his dark skin. Skin color was usually the primary way of determining your race. This was very true in early twentith century when eugenics was a hot topic all over the world. You could lose and your family also everything simply because your skin color was a shade dark. I was amazed to find out that I was neither American Indian or Negro as I had been told. I do not have genetic structurings from either. Thank you for your lectures.

  • @2000sayan
    @2000sayan Жыл бұрын

    This is very informative. I am very curious about Jewish history and this explains a lot. ❤From India.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad that you found the video helpful!

  • @SPECIALTRADER1

    @SPECIALTRADER1

    Жыл бұрын

    This isn't Jewish history he's on true Israelites. Hebrews come from Land of black people. Not from any European nation especially Germany or Russia. It's common sense

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@SPECIALTRADER1 Israel never had black people, they have DNA studies on the Canaanites and they were not Negroid. They have DNA on the people in Ancient Israel from 6500 to 3000 BCE, about the time of Abraham, the study shows light skinned, blue-eyed blondes in Israel. Please show me the peer reviewed study that explains the Israelites were Negro?

  • @musiqueetmontagne
    @musiqueetmontagneАй бұрын

    A great lecture and video Dr. Abramson, thank you so much, fascinating.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Ай бұрын

    You are most welcome

  • @universalcenterforrenovati373
    @universalcenterforrenovati373 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @sab5686
    @sab5686 Жыл бұрын

    your lessons are so so interesting! i’m so sorry you get nasty comments, we all appreciate you! i love how you use the torah as a way to analyze history

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @christinabernier4860
    @christinabernier4860 Жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy your lectures, they are always thoughtful, kind, and informative. I left Christianity 7 years ago to start practicing the Torah. I did not find out until several years later my ancestors were Crypto Jews, which explains my previously unexplained yearning for the Torah. I studied the Tanakh for several years independently and chose Karaite Judaism as a way to practice my faith, but when I tried to attend the only synagogue in my small town, which was Reform, I was told I was not welcome because “Jews must keep a gate around the culture.” It was hurtful because my ancestors fled Spain hundreds of years ago to practice our faith and were later forcibly converted by Spanish conquistadors in Mexico, making my ancestors “marranos.” To be told I’m not Jewish because I choose to keep Torah differently than rabbinic Judaism when there are Jews who don’t practice halakhah at all, made me feel a deep kinship to Uriel DaCosta for what he must’ve suffered. Lest our people forget, until Mashiach comes, we are still in the diaspora. So for those who are fortunate enough to know their Jewish history, have compassion on the ones whose heritage has been stolen from them, either by the Catholic Inquisition or the slave trade. The Torah explicitly commands kindness to the stranger, and one Torah for all. That might be because that “stranger” might actually be your brother. Shalom 🙏

  • @kwawkwansah2452

    @kwawkwansah2452

    Жыл бұрын

    My words of support to you are that it makes no difference what men do it is what you do before HaShem that counts. In some ways i can understand why some may be guarded in their belief. However Torah also says Jewish people will be a light to the world and that people will enquire about these great laws, i think sometimes they/we miss that point. Thus it is wrong to be unwelcoming and in fact it is repeated throughout the Torah to be kind to Gerim, how much more if you already one of them. Also how can you be marranos if it was through coercion and not choice.

  • @christinabernier4860

    @christinabernier4860

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your words of support :) There’s a book written by a rabbi in New Mexico that describes the use of the word “marrrano” and the humiliation associated with it. The Spanish Inquisition was such a horror, but the tragedy of it has been lost with the passing of time. Imagine giving up everything you have to come to the New World to practice your faith only to be forcibly converted in horrific ways by Spanish conquistadors on orders of the Catholic monarchy. There are many of us who are trying to return, but the truth of who we are has been erased from us and we are unrecognizable as Am Israel, just as the prophets foretold. I had a cushy life as a Christian, now I'm shunned by Christians and Jews alike because I try to please HaShem alone. That’s a fate I wholeheartedly accept because of the Jewish soul that burns within me. It’s also a way to honor my loved ones who risked everything to practice their faith.

  • @gj-po9oy

    @gj-po9oy

    Жыл бұрын

    Whoever wants to be Jewish needs to accept the entirety of the Torah as is. Much sorrow so much lack knowledge but there is time to repair. rather than focus on upset, maybe focus on excitement to learn what you say ws taken from you. The Torah has commands with no explanation, it's a matter of faith. It's not a choice of what can be accepted or not. When you get to that level in your studies you will understand why it's so hard to be a Jew and if you wish to then accept the Torah as is, you will succeed.

  • @kwawkwansah2452

    @kwawkwansah2452

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gj-po9oy that is fair enough but i dont think that our sister has suggested she has rejected any part of the Blessed Torah. The issue is feeling unwelcome. I recall in another thread elsewhere someone suggested some haredi particularly Ashkenaz ones would not even return a Shabat Shalom to someone they think is either not observant or not Jewish. Please note i say some. Surely that goes against principles found in the Torah and the whole purpose of Jewishness. The purpose is not necessarily for converts but for everyone to know HaShem but being quite insular it may have the opposite affect.

  • @babababad

    @babababad

    Жыл бұрын

    The door is still open for you to come to Judaism. But Judaism is a communal religion, not an individual one. Joining a Jewish congregation means accepting the core norms and values of that specific congregation (with of course some room for variety of opinions and interpretations). In the same way that a Christian who doesn't believe in the Pope wouldn't join a Roman Catholic parish, one wouldn't join a rabbinic community if one didn't believe in the rabbinic tradition (which was the tradition your ancestors followed). Likewise, someone who aspires to Karaite Judaism would best be fulfilled by becoming involved in a Karaite congregation, as Karaism is not merely "Tanakh-only Judaism" but rather a long-standing community with its own specific traditions and practices. Da Costa is a good example of someone who tried to return to Judaism but failed because he insisted on doing it on his own terms. Having been raised a Christian, he always viewed the Bible from a Christian point of view, examining it as an isolated text rather than the foundation of the living traditions of the Jewish people. He was outcast because not only was he never really able to lose this prejudice, he also tried to persuade other Jews to reject Judaism and adopt his novel interpretations.

  • @bethcares17anonymous38
    @bethcares17anonymous38 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your lessons!

  • @smileylady485
    @smileylady485 Жыл бұрын

    Very educative, thanks.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @timetraveler2218
    @timetraveler2218 Жыл бұрын

    Something to interesting about Ashkenazim “The Ashkenazi (Eastern European Jewish) Egyptian community was entirely a product of the modern era and the arrival of Jews fleeing persecution in Europe in the nineteenth century. From 1865 on, the Ashkenazim of Cairo maintained a separate communal organization. They were geographically concentrated in the Darb al-Barabira quarter, where Yiddish was spoken in the streets until the 1950s. The community maintained a Yiddish theater group and a Yiddish program on the Egyptian state radio until the 1950s.[6] The more established and generally wealthier Sephardi community looked down on the Ashkenazim as social inferiors.” unfortunately can not post it with link source a message automatically removed

  • @iaindcosta
    @iaindcosta Жыл бұрын

    William Blake called Jews "black" though I don't think it was with necessarily negative connotations, more as a contrast to the English

  • @IndigenousHebrew
    @IndigenousHebrew Жыл бұрын

    Ok right here Dr. Abramson. This is the discussion we're supposed to be having. Not one sided understandings. But thanks for actually talking about it. You know I Always come to your discussions first.

  • @lionelsanders180
    @lionelsanders180Ай бұрын

    Great lecture sir!

  • @davidcreuze6856
    @davidcreuze6856 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder about the Italian DNA mix itself in 800. I think there was a sizable Germanic admixture with the Longobardian invasions, but old stock Italian DNA was already pretty mixed, if I'm not mistaken, with some Roman, Gaul, North African, Eastern Mediterranean, etc...

  • @deansupreme92
    @deansupreme92 Жыл бұрын

    Also so called black peoples are different complexions of brown. I have family members with hazel and green eyes.

  • @damiansiniakowicz1294
    @damiansiniakowicz1294 Жыл бұрын

    Love your channel bro

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoy the videos. Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @carmelmulroy6459
    @carmelmulroy6459 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful lecture

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you liked it!

  • @who167
    @who167 Жыл бұрын

    There are some other aspects and studies which I think should be discussed. There are plenty of Levantine peoples whose skin colour is also quite pale, for example, plenty of Alawites, Druze and Samaritans, although not all. Further, there's a study from 2004 which compares ancestry as we can tell it from DNA between different levantine groups, and especially many Jewish communities to that of the Samaritans, a nation whose own narrative, very much in agreement with the scholarly consensus about it, says that they are the descendants of the Israelites who were not *all* exiled by Assyria. The research pretty much agrees with the notion that Sephardic and Askenazi Jews are indeed closely related to the Samaritans. That is, we have a nation who shares ancestry with Jews on account of both genetics and the record of their own history, completely native to the Levant unless we consider our bible's narrative about them, the way I see it, their appearance should be considered as well. Some of them do indeed look very "middle eastern", so to speak, but also plenty whose skin colour is on the lighter side, for example the Israeli celebrity Sofi Tzdaka. In addition we do have colored paintings of Jews painting themselves from antiquity, as you surely know, such as the amazing painting in the synagogue of Dura Europas, and I'm positive that there are some Egyptian paintings who depict all kind of near east people from roughly the same period. Lastly there are some ancient arts which depict nearby nations which are considered very close in terms of culture and indeed descent, for example the bust of the Carthaginian leader Hanibaal. My point being, I think that the image you depicted about the original way Jews looked like was too simplistic and did not take into account some very relevant information.

  • @damonking76

    @damonking76

    Жыл бұрын

    PRESENT DAY LEVANTINE PEOPLE!?? WHO PASSED THROUGH THE AREA SINCE THE BIBLICAL RECORD!?? A BOER[ AFRIKKKAN IS NOT A ZULU] LETS BE COMPLETELY HONEST WHEN DEALING WITH THESE TOPICS!!!

  • @yourthought2333
    @yourthought2333 Жыл бұрын

    ....And he will dwell in the tents of Shem....(Genesis 9:27)

  • @TerryFerrellmathematics
    @TerryFerrellmathematics Жыл бұрын

    i am grateful for you!

  • @doorknob9027
    @doorknob9027 Жыл бұрын

    I needed this

  • @LisaRichards_123
    @LisaRichards_123 Жыл бұрын

    You only get 50% of each parents’ DNA. Which DNA you get from them is random.

  • @alaindarmon6036
    @alaindarmon6036 Жыл бұрын

    Question: As Ashkenazi Jews have some Italian ancestry, is it possible that Italians have Jewish ancestry? There were millions of Jews in the Roman Empire, what happened to most of them, they didn’t disappear, did they become Christians?

  • @eliedecastro5716

    @eliedecastro5716

    Жыл бұрын

    Before Mashiah comes, those "disappeared Jews" will return to the covenant. The house of Sepharad (Spain. Portugal) will be reestablished and they (Sephardic Jews) will inherit the south. (South of Jerusalem)

  • @magnumopus1628

    @magnumopus1628

    Жыл бұрын

    As an Italian jew, when it happens that I cross my path with a racist Italian (which is gladly not as often as some people might think) I simply say to take a DNA test. Because it's basically impossible for them to not have at least a couple of percentages of DNA that they wouldn't have expected. So yes, there are a lot of Italians with either a little bit, or a lot of Jewish DNA and ancestry.

  • @eliyahufogel

    @eliyahufogel

    Жыл бұрын

    What happened to them?? Nothing happened, they continued to live throughout Europe. Have you never heard of Jews?

  • @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eliyahufogel You don't understand Alain's question. Some Jews in Sicily and southern mainland Italy were FORCED to convert to Catholicism after 1492. Only the Jews who escaped from those parts of Italy remained Jews. The answer is yes there are many Catholic descendants of Jews in southern parts of Italy today.

  • @Masbelah_ben_Shimon
    @Masbelah_ben_Shimon Жыл бұрын

    Excellent lecture; learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @lrnzclayton
    @lrnzclayton Жыл бұрын

    Thank you 💯 %

  • @LisaRichards_123
    @LisaRichards_123 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating

  • @mch5887
    @mch5887 Жыл бұрын

    Numbers 12 9. So the anger of the Lord was aroused against them, and He departed. 10. And when the cloud departed from above the tabernacle, suddenly Miriam became leprous, (as white as snow). Then Aaron turned toward Miriam, and there she was, a leper. 11. So Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord! (Please do not lay this sin on us,) in which we have done foolishly and in which we have sinned. 12. Please do not (let her be as one dead, whose flesh is half consumed) when he comes out of his mother’s womb!”

  • @ajarnwordsmith628
    @ajarnwordsmith628 Жыл бұрын

    Dr Abramson, I think this is one of your most fascinating lectures to date. I was aware that at the height of Rome's hegemony Jews were brought to Rome from within the Empire. Your narrative would account for the existence of an admixture, a trace, of "Italian" DNA in my family's ancestral profile. As a young man and avid reader of history, I must have been one of the first to read Arthur Koestler's 'Thirteenth Tribe' when first published in 1976. Little did I imagine then that Koestler's Khazarian thesis, now debunked, would be hijacked by a motley crew of antisemites out there...

  • @J1WE

    @J1WE

    Жыл бұрын

    The indian ocean/arab slave trade adds to that... color didnt matter. It eas rampant.

  • @matthewmistery1051
    @matthewmistery1051 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for another great video. Recently I had me DNA done, & although I knew my heritage was Ashkenazi (& I already knew the village in Germany where they came from) no actual German DNA came up. However a substantial amount of Italian DNA was present, which came as a complete shock to me. Perhaps the information you’ve presented in this video is the reason & I’m a descendant of that particular group? Toda raba.

  • @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    Жыл бұрын

    Medieval Rhineland Jews had on average 3% German DNA. See page 6 of the main body of the Jewish DNA study from Erfurt, Germany released on November 30, 2022 which parsed out the affinities of what they called the "Erfurt-ME" subpopulation of that city. As also stated in that study, Ashkenazim do have some Italian DNA but some of it could be interpreted to be Greek instead.

  • @victormorgado5318
    @victormorgado5318 Жыл бұрын

    i loved Mr Abramson's book about Maimonides writings on Teshuvá and his own reflections on the covid 19 during seclusion

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the positive feedback! I am glad that you enjoyed the writings.

  • @NuNugirl
    @NuNugirl Жыл бұрын

    Finally someone is talking about this. Being thought of as Irish ☘️, most of my life, I found it a bit annoying ( nothing against the Irish) lol. My Sister was mistaken for being Swedish smh 🤦‍♀️

  • @lakitawright6003
    @lakitawright6003 Жыл бұрын

    With regard to Moses, wife, her point of origin was given, meaning that she wasn’t Hebrew. However, if the Hebrews weren’t dark, then, when Miriam was cursed for speaking out against her brothers marriage to a Cushite woman, and she turned white, how can you turn white if you’re already white?

  • @mch5887

    @mch5887

    Жыл бұрын

    Numbers 12 9. So the anger of the Lord was aroused against them, and He departed. 10. And when the cloud departed from above the tabernacle, suddenly Miriam became leprous, (as white as snow). Then Aaron turned toward Miriam, and there she was, a leper. 11. So Aaron said to Moses, “Oh, my lord! (Please do not lay this sin on us,) in which we have done foolishly and in which we have sinned. 12. Please do not (let her be as one dead, whose flesh is half consumed) when he comes out of his mother’s womb!”

  • @yanika388usa3

    @yanika388usa3

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably cause They were tanner complexion and so during leprosy she became white as snow. Many white peoples are still way darker then the snow.

  • @mch5887

    @mch5887

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yanika388usa3, Maybe because they looked like the rest of their bloodline of people. Job 30 30. My skin is black upon me, Lamentations 4 8. Now their faces are blacker than coal; Lamentations 5 10. Our skin was black like an oven

  • @palermotrapani9067

    @palermotrapani9067

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mch5887 I think Job 30 is using black for a metaphor for death and evil. sorry to burst your bubble. earlier in verse 26, yet when Looked for good, then evil came, when I expected light, then came darkness...my blackened skin falls away from me, the heat scorches my very frame. Lamentations 4:6-8 in context. In verse 6: The punishment of the daughter of my people is greater than the penalty of Sodom, which was overthrown in an instant without a turning hand. Verse 7 Brighter than snow were here princes whiter than milk, more ruddy than coral, more precious than sapphire. then verse 8 "Now their appearence is blacker than soot, they are unrecognized on the streets, their skin shrinks on their bones, as dry as wood. And for the record, I am now Jewish but find it interesting that many American sects are now telling the Ashkenazi Jewish people that they are not Jewish. I think the Rabbi here clearly showed that all Ashkenazi have as a founding population ties back to the Levant, which is where ancient Israel was.

  • @damonking76

    @damonking76

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mch5887 *WASTED

  • @KosherWithoutBorders
    @KosherWithoutBorders Жыл бұрын

    Is there a place we purchase a book on his travels? Is Benjamin of Tudela the one known as the Jewish Marco Polo?

  • @margaretlawrence3385
    @margaretlawrence33858 ай бұрын

    Fascinating.

  • @deansupreme92
    @deansupreme92 Жыл бұрын

    How would you explain it if it was translated as “I am black, and comely”

  • @eternallove6600

    @eternallove6600

    Жыл бұрын

    Right

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    that is not an Israelite being described. It is the Sulammite Slave girl. Not an Israelite. She explains that the Daughters of Jerusalem (Israelite women) looked down in her because she was dark. If they were dark, why would they look down on dark people?

  • @user-zv9um9pb6w

    @user-zv9um9pb6w

    Жыл бұрын

    Its better to quote apasuk we can do our own transportation.

  • @deansupreme92

    @deansupreme92

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelsamuel3328 is Ruddy "white" or is it something else?

  • @deansupreme92

    @deansupreme92

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rachelsamuel3328 She stated she was black and explained it was because they made her work outside in the field tending to the vineyards. So beyond complexion it was because she probably had pretty tough skin. Just like the "ruddy" complexioned shepherd boy who would become king.

  • @DrSmith-so2dl
    @DrSmith-so2dl Жыл бұрын

    What about European history books? They are very clear and accurate when describing what the people of the house of "judah" looked like when they were being persecuted in Spain and Portugal, and how they were sold as slaves into Africa. I presume that you are something like a scholar, to be more accurate, I would say that you're scholar - ish, and you're very careful not to show or say too much about truth in what you're teaching, in other words, you are dancing and giving half truths.

  • @m0ckingB1rd42

    @m0ckingB1rd42

    Жыл бұрын

    ☝️Mr. Smith is an excellent example of a Judeophobe

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    Please go to the KZread channel of *Ninety-three TV* Where he goes into all these descriptions.

  • @philipmann5317
    @philipmann5317 Жыл бұрын

    Professor Abramson, I heard this odd theory many years ago, and I wonder what you think of it. This theory posits that during the time of the shoftim (Judges), specifically the civil wars, when the tribe of Benyamin was almost wiped out, some Jews set sail for France and settled there. This would pre-date the Assyrian war by at least one thousand years. What's your opinion on this?

  • @roderickwest2845
    @roderickwest2845 Жыл бұрын

    This presentation answers some of the questions of history, but still something doesn't fully lines up with Science. I must search out this subject in full detail, by study and listening to different Scholars presentations such as this one.

  • @dianaaduministriesandmissi3719
    @dianaaduministriesandmissi3719 Жыл бұрын

    Dear sir, I have a question for you. If you say part of the answer to "Jewish whiteness" is due to the fact that Jews living in Europe have been "whitened" through their long stay in the West, Is it possible that they were also darkened during their 400 years in Africa?

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    There is No proof of large amounts of Jews ever in sub-Saharan Africa,

  • @markmiyashiro
    @markmiyashiro Жыл бұрын

    I did my DNA through Living DNA I'm Ashkinazi by my Mom, she has red hair, from Siberia Russia, I am Okinawan Jewish, soon to become the first Okinawan Rabbi in Oct. 2023

  • @YoukaiSlayer12
    @YoukaiSlayer12 Жыл бұрын

    Why no reference to the Dura-Europos synagogue wall art?

  • @roninbjj498
    @roninbjj498 Жыл бұрын

    On my mothers side, My grandmothers last name is Curiel ( sephardic origin from spain) and my grandfather who is spanish also but looks very ashkenazim, i am unsure of his jewishness. Does anyone have any good resources to suggest so that i may dig a little deeper into my own jewishness? Im trying to trace back my families sephardic jewishness .

  • @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    @user-jr4kc6lu9q

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, indeed, Curiel is a known Sephardic surname. Your mother's mother's mtDNA haplogroup may very well be one of the known Jewish lineages, and this lineage can be tested by companies like Family Tree DNA, YFull, and Nebula Genomics and then compared to other people. You could also see if your haplogroup appears in my book "The Maternal Genetic Lineages of Ashkenazic Jews" by way of the shared heritage of Sephardim and Ashkenazim both maternal and paternal. Some members of the Curiel family settled in Ukraine too as I noted in my article "Sephardim in Central, Eastern, and Southern Ukraine" and could be expected to be Y-DNA matches to Sephardic Curiel families.

  • @SaraMastros
    @SaraMastros Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy almost all your teachings, including this one, which I think is a very important topic. However, I hope to see some Jews of Color guest lecturing as you move through this series.

  • @padillas4357

    @padillas4357

    Жыл бұрын

    Geneticists and Historians would be good to also have on.

  • @SaraMastros

    @SaraMastros

    Жыл бұрын

    @@padillas4357 Isn't Dr. Abramson a historian?

  • @padillas4357

    @padillas4357

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SaraMastros Sort of. He usually does Biography as history, from what I understand.

  • @vincentrojas8305
    @vincentrojas8305 Жыл бұрын

    Where in the Torah does it say that Jews come in all colors and more importantly where in the Torah does it say that they are white?

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 Жыл бұрын

    I love dna and have studied so many cultures under that banner and find that most north Italians are light skinned and mixed with other Northern Europeans as opposed to southern Mediterranean or southern Italians who are darker in colour

  • @Dovid2000
    @Dovid2000 Жыл бұрын

    Color and eligibility are topics occasionally spoken about, but they conjure up discrimination and some of the bad angels in man. This particular topic reminds me of a verse in Song of Songs 1:6 that reads in Hebrew: אל־תראוני שאני שחרחרת ששזפתני השמש בני אמי נחרו־בי שמני נטרה את־הכרמים כרמי שלי לא נטרתי

  • @me1747
    @me1747 Жыл бұрын

    This has always confused me. Doing ancestry research there is almost always a category for race. Since Jews are viewed as a race I never understood why they are not counted. It would help to determine the progression and inclusion in communities. I don't know how that is done. This helps to clear that up.

  • @JaskoonerSingh

    @JaskoonerSingh

    Жыл бұрын

    I always thought that because of the Holocaust, Jewish people do not want to recorded on any census as a race. Anonymity is next to longevity.

  • @myaccount3402

    @myaccount3402

    Жыл бұрын

    I just watched a video from this same rabbi saying jew is not a race nor religion....it's funny listening to him claim they came from Sara and Abram with no more references yet ignores ashkenaz in the biblical sense and how he comes from Japeth which means "roamer" or "traveler". And Shem being the root of "semetic" people's means biblically jews are from Japeth according to what I gather

  • @babababad

    @babababad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@myaccount3402 Rabbinic literature used biblical names to refer to regions around the world. Ashkenaz refers to Germany, the region where Ashkenazi culture developed. Ashkenazi Jews don't descend from the biblical Ashkenaz any more than Americans descend from Amerigo Vespucci.

  • @Biblical_DNA
    @Biblical_DNA Жыл бұрын

    Abramson, can you please get a Biblical map and a Biblical Timeline? 24:15 The Kingdom of Kush in Northern Sudan had nothing to do with Ethiopia. Do you realize that we have DNA samples from Meroitic period? These people were originally from the Neolithic Levant Natufians, North African and East African admixture. "4000-year-old hair from the Middle Nile highlights unusual ancient DNA degradation pattern and a potential source of early eastern Africa pastoralists"

  • @RoyPounsford
    @RoyPounsford9 ай бұрын

    Loved your video Henry, I'm half Maori and the other half is British, YDNA is R1b (I apologise what they did to your people). I spend three wonderful months on Kibbutzim outside of Bethlehem in my 20s over 30 years ago. So I take it that Ashkenazim jews are really Italian then but have a jewish heritage. I await comments. Kind regards, Roy

  • @freyatilly
    @freyatilly8 ай бұрын

    Love your message at 42.00 mins

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Rita1984
    @Rita1984 Жыл бұрын

    Im a light skinned jew of ashkenazi heritage yet ive never passed as “white european”, just passed as a light skinned eastern mediteranean like greek, turkish, or lebanese.

  • @lanziemusic6739

    @lanziemusic6739

    Жыл бұрын

    You are a gentile

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@lanziemusic6739 You are the Gentile!

  • @tahliah6691
    @tahliah6691 Жыл бұрын

    There are many ways of looking at the topic of focus…. I am a well seasoned traveller and have visited the Cairo museum and what people see on line is not what is in the museum itself… eg the pictures of the ancient Hebrews and other tribes in Egypt of the time is not what is depicted in the video… the Hebrews depicted are dark brown skinned …. Not light skinned… we must remember we are talking about one of the hottest places on the planet for people to work out in the sun at such extreme measures… even the hair from the wigs in the museum are Afro in origin… One thing I will say is that dna doesn’t lie… original Arabs were very dark skinned eg marsh Arabs were in most cases as dark as Africans… Kush was not Ethiopia Kush is what we today call Sudan… Ethiopia did exist then as a country only as a continent…. Maps from the 16th century and before show evidence of this …. We know that Europeans do not come from the region of today known as the Middle East (a misnomer) as this region is an extension of Africa known as Canaan…. Dna shows that Ashkenazi Jews are of European decent eg from Eastern Europe as do Sephardic Jews…. As said Jews can be any colour … we also have to look at blending or passing … an Ashkenazi Jew can pass or blend into European or western society … Jews of colour cannot… Askenaz if part of modern day Germany not the same as the tribe mentioned in Genesis 10…as that tribe is under Japheth… Viewing photographs of Jews and Arabs as far back as the 18th century shows eg Arabs as being dark skinned not like the Arabs today… as we know that most Arabs from today are mixed with ottoman and some European dna …. Quite a mixed multitude… Skin colour doesn’t change over time unless it’s genetically altered by interrelationships…. Eg African people have maintained their skin colour and ethnicity since day dot with very little watering down unless slavery was involved … this is very common too in Asia and parts of Europe as dna highlights… We don’t see Africans or Asians or orientals or Europeans changing colour unless as mentioned above… Most ethnic communities didn’t move out of their villages or mix out as most of the world throughout the centuries are very tribal or fiercely tribal… Judaism today is matrilineal but according to Torah it has always been patrilineal… Also we mustn’t forget that if a group professing to be a Jew or a Hebrew believes in the NT or jesus then they are christians. Simple . I would love to hear peoples opinions on what I have stated and I always like to refer to Torah or Tanakh as a back up too… Interesting video

  • @jdm6613

    @jdm6613

    Жыл бұрын

    @Tahliah, mate do you stream worship service? If so pls share the sight.

  • @tahliah6691

    @tahliah6691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jdm6613 sorry I don’t ….over the years whilst reading Torah and Tanakh I have found a lot of discrepancies in how Judaism is worshipped today…. Whether Conservative or Orthodox Judaism etc …. All the truth one needs in in Torah or Tanakh….eg Psalms 146 v 3 …. TMH states this for a reason as we will get lead astray Eg what stood out for me was the verse in Torah Exodus 12 v 38 where TMH spoke about the mixed multitude that left Mizrahim to go to the promised land…. I don’t know if you can private message me on KZread I could share more Information with you ? The truth will always set us free and closer to TMH

  • @lanziemusic6739

    @lanziemusic6739

    Жыл бұрын

    All of what you stated are facts!! I am white and I know the real Israelites are black!

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    Not true at all, the Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews are closely related to the Mizrahi Jews. They also have 70% Levantine DNA with about 30% of Southern European or Ancient Greco-Roman DNA. They show 50% of Canaanite DNA, after 2500 years of diaspora and the Canaanites were only living in Israel.

  • @smyth613
    @smyth613 Жыл бұрын

    Shalom, I saw this video a few weeks ago. I was surprised to read in the Magazine Mishpacha (in hebrew) a Rav Stern the Rav of Ezrat Torah in Jerusalem bring a RADAK stating that after the event of "Pelegish B' Giva" 1000 people from the tribe of Benjamin left Israel and settled in Germany? Have you ever seen that?? Thx

  • @yosef36069
    @yosef36069 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for addressing this topic because there's a lot of ignorance out there about us so to the point that some people think that ashkenazis r not part of us

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome and thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @ASamuel89
    @ASamuel89 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for addressing this topic. I would like to add some more points to take in consideration: 1. There a lot of examples of Middle Eastern people who are pale and can pass as white. there are many Christian Lebanese and Palestinians, Samaritans, Druze, Syrians and also Iraqis and more. Today the Middle Eastern stereotype is of an Arab looking person but we should remember that Arabs are originally from the Arabian Peninsula and during the Islamic conquests they had some mixing with the other peoples in the Middle East but it not the original look of the peoples in this area. 2. You mentioned Scarlet Johansson, which by Jewish law is considered Jewish but if we look genetic wise she is only half Ashkenazi Jewish (mother) and the other half (father) is Scandinavian, so I think that the paradox is that Jewish assimilation in the united states is a also a reason for a lot of antisemitism because really there are so many examples of celebrities with some Jewish ancestry that identify as Jews but genetically wise they are not fully Jewish and I think it can make a "whiter" image of Jew in the eyes of people who don’t know the Jewish people that well. Not that there are no fully Ashkenazi people that can pass as white but there are also tons of examples of Ashkenazi Jews that can pass as fully middle eastern. They have really a wide range of phenotypes and tones. 3. The genetic field is something that is still evolving and there are always new findings. I think there should be more researches about Middle Easterners because I think at the moment DNA researches and knowledge are mostly about Europeans and it might effect the results and the conclusion of researches. Italians, especially south Italians have also a middle eastern admixture which may affect the similarity between them and Ashkenazim. 4. I think that every group that promote hate shouldn't be accepted to the Jewish people. these Israelites should be treated the same as white supremacist. there is not difference to me. if skin color is the only thing that matters to them, they can go to #ell.

  • @zan4985

    @zan4985

    Жыл бұрын

    Dont kid yourself colour is everything...especially in western culture

  • @m0ckingB1rd42

    @m0ckingB1rd42

    Жыл бұрын

    Ummmmm…..having a Jewish mother makes you fully Jewish. Now you’re no longer ignorant. You’re welcome. Even in a secular consideration, just like a person with one black parent and one white is still considered “black”, the same is true for Jews. The Nazis only cared whether you had Jewish ancestry. That is what made you a Jew, not whether you practiced the religion. And it never mattered to the Nazis of today, yesterday or to the Spanish inquisitors whether a Jewish person had one “European Christian” parent….they were still a Jew if they could find any Jewish ancestry. It’s the exact same philosophy as “not one drop” from Jim Crow. Stop trying to erase people

  • @ASamuel89

    @ASamuel89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m0ckingB1rd42 I think my comment was very clear. GENETIC WISE it doesn't matter if you only have a Jewish mother or a Jewish father. in both case you are only Half JEWISH. 23andme display it in the easiest way to understand. you have a pie and if you are fully Jewish all the pie is at the same color and if you are only half Jewish the pie is split into half by two different colors. Now YOU’re no longer ignorant. You’re welcome!

  • @m0ckingB1rd42

    @m0ckingB1rd42

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ASamuel89 wrong lol! That’s what you don’t get and that’s why DNA tests are never sufficient to determine whether someone is actually Jewish. 23 and me is a gimmick lol

  • @goblack2africa54
    @goblack2africa54 Жыл бұрын

    I think this is very dangerous for the attempt to insert at 32:40 these neighboring people marry into this small group of Jews. What color was the small group, what tribe did they belong to. I ask this question because it's misleading. The other point is you take a defense move in stating that Jews were shipped to Rome and were slaves. This is pure speculation and no known sources to corroborate your story. If you have any sources to provide I will greatly appreciate it. This is not to my knowledge found in history. I think your trying to debunk the Hebrew Israelite stands that Deuteronomy 28 specifies those being sent away in ships were referring to Africans Jews being they were sent in ships. I think many white jews are looking for answers when confronted with this passage and now out of nowhere they find a grave and want to position the jewish people as the people in the scripture.

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    Josephus and Munter both write of the Jews being taken to Egypt by ships, at that time the Jews were brought to Egypt because it was controlled by the Romans. Even at the Colloseum it explains that it was built by Jewish slaves, Josephus talks of how the Jews were paraded Before Titus in the Triumph. Where the tallest and handsomest Jews of over 17 were brought before Titus in Rome.

  • @rachelsamuel3328

    @rachelsamuel3328

    Жыл бұрын

    Again, both Josephus and Munter speak about the Jews brought to Egypt by ships in irons, and brought to 3 different slave markets because they could not be sold even for the price if a horse or donkey, I would be glad to show you where in their books,

  • @DevorahC

    @DevorahC

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@rachelsamuel3328would love these resources.thanks

  • @DevorahC

    @DevorahC

    Ай бұрын

    Why is the thought of Jews being slaves so impossible? Of course slaves after any war were taken.

  • @patrickbly4170
    @patrickbly4170 Жыл бұрын

    Love your smile

  • @izzymaedavidson1974
    @izzymaedavidson1974 Жыл бұрын

    I’m Jewish of ashkenazi descent but wasn’t raised very secular due to my mother leaving when I was Seven . I came here to learn a bit

  • @HenryAbramsonPhD

    @HenryAbramsonPhD

    Жыл бұрын

    Learn in good health!

  • @derrillfloyd5571
    @derrillfloyd5571 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up in a black Christian church that believes in the Sabbath and feast days. We do not preach that we are the original Jews. Some of the people I grew up with in that church have left to become Hebrew Israelites so I have more than a few that have tried to convince me that I’m Jewish or Israelite. I have never believed it and now that I’ve taken a DNA test I know I’m not. I still believe like I was raised but I don’t attend church as much due to the major support, by members and clergy, for BLM, modern black culture and liberalism/Democrat Party ideology.

  • @Azaryahuyisrael

    @Azaryahuyisrael

    Жыл бұрын

    A DnA test wouldn’t tell you if you are a Israelite or Shemitic. Unless you took a Y chromosome test or MTDNA test. A Great majority of Blacks decent from Shem and decent from the same people as Jews

  • @derrillfloyd5571

    @derrillfloyd5571

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Azaryahuyisrael , I will look up what you said and will even endeavor to take these tests but to be truthful to you my first reaction is, here the Israelites coming up with another excuse to hold onto false doctrine. I’ve seen this man’s videos and he’s given more proof of real black Israelites, in ancient history, in watching the few minutes of his videos than Israelites have given me in the 50+ years y’all have been trying to convince me that we are the real Israelites.

  • @docshay7328

    @docshay7328

    Жыл бұрын

    @@derrillfloyd5571 Bruh, i'll leave these references with you. The Critical Review, Or, Annals of Literature, Volume 57, page 141 (Published in 1783)​: "King John II. In 1492, EXPELLED ALL THE JEWS to the island of ST. THOMAS, which had been discovered in 1471, AND OTHER PORTUGUESE SETTLEMENTS ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA; and from these banished Jews, The BLACK PORTUGUESE, AS THEY ARE CALLED, and the Jews in Loango, who are despised even by the very Negroes, are descended." Sources of history in the Pentateuch, Pg.118, (1882) by Bartlett, Samuel Colcord, 1817-1898: “Thus the BLACK color is found not only in individuals, as the black Jews of Portugal, but in tribes, AS THE BICHARIS on the Red Sea, whose hair and character are perfectly Semitic;” And I got many more references documenting Black Jews all over Africa before the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade and colonialism. The Bible also supports this... Zephaniah 3:10 "From BEYOND THE RIVERS OF CUSH my worshipers, MY SCATTERED PEOPLE, will bring me offerings." If were being honest, beyond the rivers of Cush would be...Sub Saharan Africa....

  • @Azaryahuyisrael

    @Azaryahuyisrael

    Жыл бұрын

    @@derrillfloyd5571 well im not really trying to convince you. Im just telling telling the truth. In the Bible God made nations there is no son of noah named Negro. Knowing so called Bantus or West Africans are Hebrews has nothing to do with your biblical doctrine

  • @derrillfloyd5571

    @derrillfloyd5571

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Azaryahuyisrael , 1) I have no biblical doctrine, God’s word is His word. Most importantly, saying things like, “Noah had no son named Negro.”, has been the kind of nonsensical stuff that has turned me off to your movement. Like I don’t know that Negro means black and has only been used in recent history just like Caucasian and the rest of these man made racial definitions. I do believe know there are black Jews. This man doing this teaching has stated there are and were black Jews. The Bible says the Jews will be scattered throughout the nations. My thing is why is that so important when I’m going to be judged on the life I live and the vitriol toward Jews and whites is a turnoff. I grew up with whites that were like that and they had a lot of life failures and bitterness about themselves. Also because of that experience growing up and conversations with my elders who went through worse, I was never ashamed to be black and I don’t have a need to be nothing else but black.