If you enjoyed this video, check out my follow-up video on the creation of Marvel's *Captain Marvel* character here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/doKiqNOLkairerQ.html

@patrickperalta59

Жыл бұрын

Owen Likes Comics and Shazam had a live action show in the 1970's

I'm starting to think that Owen might like comics.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

shhhhh... don't tell anyone!

@marsproductions7484

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think so

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the live action Shazam TV show in the 70’s since you mentioned the 1940’s serial.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Good point! Originally I was going to touch on the 1974 series when talking about his resurgence and licensing by DC, but it felt slightly tangential and off-topic. I'll definitely try touch on it if I make another video on the matter though, thanks!

@jonathangoode546

5 жыл бұрын

parKb5 and that short lived animation SERIES in the 1980's .

@angeldye4282

4 жыл бұрын

@@OwenLikesComics owenlikes....

Sad he was barely there for the Rebirth period.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was weird how Geoff Johns set up Shazam to be a big player in the New 52 then just dropped it until Rebirth. Hopefully now he's getting a new series he'll have a more prominent role.

As much as I enjoyed this video, your statement that it took the Crisis on Infinite Earths reboot to have Superman and Captain Marvel to meet disregards DC's publishing history. Superman and Shazam Captain Marvel met several times in the 1970s and 1980s, especially in the team-up series, DC Comics Presents 33, 34, 49, and Annual #3. There is also All New Collectors Edition No. C-58, May 1978, as well as Justice League of America vol. 1 #137 as well as a few issues of All-Star Squadron.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the comment. Yeah, in hindsight that might require a bit of clarification: DC did publish a handful of Superman/Shazam team-up issues before the book was cancelled (I think one of the last issues was dedicated to that, if memory serves me right), but it wasn't until Crisis where Shazam was fully folded into the DC universe. While it's true they had crossed paths a number of times before, it was after Crisis where they occupied the same space concurrently, if that makes sense?

I love the simple irony presented with Captain Marvel. He gets magical powers from a mage including the ability to cast spells like Shazam does and he effectively uses them to become a bruiser capable of equaling Superman. Just imagine if Billy decided to embrace the mage aspect of his powers for a bit.

I love captain marvel billy baston and I am so happy that he’s finally getting a more recognition finally

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@buffbeenstuffed

5 жыл бұрын

Tevya you are like the Nick fury of our community...you can pop up anywhere at anytime

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Tevya is the ultimate seal of approval - if he comments on your videos, you know it's good!

@buffbeenstuffed

5 жыл бұрын

I always bump into him on the else worlds exchange podcast/stream and the weekly pull chat. The dude is a legend

@TevyaSmolka

5 жыл бұрын

yup :)

I've been a Marvel Family fan since 1949 and don't know why DC have seen fit to alter costumes and origins so much. The original storyline is as valid today as it was then. Nevertheless, I'll be one of the first in line to see the movie! Shazam!

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

I've read most of the different 'eras' of Shazam, and yeah, they always seem to slightly alter and tweak things by the decade, but the core essentials remain. I guess it's just writer/editorial preference. And agreed, can't wait for the movie!

@tayojones9460

4 жыл бұрын

More like. Editorial meddling. Just leave the original origin alone! Why isn't the origin of batman is barely changed yet everyone else's origin has to be tweaked or altered in some stupid way?!

@MonkeyDBatman

4 жыл бұрын

@@tayojones9460 because Batmans is simple and the most iconic, a lot of superheros started out with really stupid origins. And also batmans has been tweaked many times

Is it a coincidence that in 2019 were getting both Shazam and a Captain Marvel that are not related?

Carol Danvers doesn't have shit on Billy Batson.

@antoniofearon8874

5 жыл бұрын

Well, back in the day, Clark Kent didn’t have shit on Billy Batson either 😏

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

never mention that filth....

I hate that they don't have proper Mr Tawny in New 52, with suits, canes and stuff. Also, New 52 design is kind of all over the place, especially the meaningless "tactic-lines" all over the body. What Morrison did in Multiversity and Parker did in Convergence is fantastic, what Johns did in New 52...meh, kinda cool.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda shocked they haven't tried to bring Mr. Tawny into current continuity (besides the easter egg in the JL backups), and I don't mind the overall design of New 52 Shazam, but it does look unnecessarily 'busy' with all the lines, that seemed to be a weird design choice of the time, unfortunately.

@nlpnt

5 жыл бұрын

I predict that we've at least seen the last of blond Freddy since they'll probably redesign the characters to look like the movie actors.

@Hanatatami

5 жыл бұрын

@@nlpnt It doesn't seem so, at least for now, in the preview pages and drawings they have for the new series. It would be a shame if they changed it, I like Freddy's design with blond hair :(

@mayito4522

5 жыл бұрын

They bring back Tawny in the recent Shazam comic run.

Thanks for watching, if you have any thoughts/questions regarding the video, please leave a comment and I'll try answer as best I can! Also, if you want further reading, I highly recommend Newsrama's *An Oral History of Captain Marvel* series of articles (link: www.newsarama.com/6771-an-oral-history-of-captain-marvel-the-shazam-years-pt-1.html) "Be excellent to each other." - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, 1989

@insanemakaioshin

5 жыл бұрын

I hope he's actually called Captain Marvel in the movie

They killed Captain Marvel's mentor? That's horrible!

I’m looking forward to Captain Marvel. But they keep calling him Shazam for some reason...

@markmagician2471

4 жыл бұрын

Marvel Comics took the name from DC

@hiranom20

3 жыл бұрын

@@markmagician2471 I think he was joking lol

@TupocalypseShakur

3 жыл бұрын

@@markmagician2471 technically speaking Marvel had the name before DC

@stormhawk31

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it pisses me off.

There is nothing former about Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel still exists. The nameless hero introduced in the New 52 is just another interpretation of Cap.

Did you know Captain Marvel was Elvis Presley's favorite superhero as a kid and he modeled his costume after his!

@RockandrollNegro

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm. I don't remember Elvis wearing a bright red jumpsuit and yellow cape.

@MemesToa

2 жыл бұрын

IIRC they made a reference to that in Kingdom Come, where Freddy Freeman is named King Marvel and modeled off of Elvis. They also frequently have Freddy be a fan of Elvis for the same reason.

Such a great deep dive into the history of Capitan Marvel! So glad I found the channel!

@OwenLikesComics

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

I've been of Captain Marvel for decades and knew a bit about the character's "history" with DC but your video covered it all clearly and beautifully

Excellent summary of the complicated history of Shazam / Captain Marvel! Thanks Owen!

This was really really good, love what you did in this video. I didn't know Shazam had such an interesting story, I had only vaguely heard about the Marvel lawsuit but that was about it, but this video has made me respect the character a lot more. Truly a great comeback story. Thank you for making this!

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Enzo. Shazam's history is absolutely fascinating. I definitely recommend reading the Newsrama series of articles I cited, there's a link in my pinned comment if you'd like to find out a little more!

Great video!!! I really loved the Mandrake series myself!

Yes! Owen with another excellent comic book history lesson!

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad to hear you enjoyed it!

Keep Snyder away from him. His trademark "grim and gritty" would no work with the character at all.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Haha, I've made the comparison before that the Shazam! movie feels like a mix of the Tom Hanks movie 'Big' and the Richard Donner 'Superman' film.

@silverspear21

5 жыл бұрын

Hence why Snyder did not have him in JL or anything prior..............

@buildup3592

3 жыл бұрын

Somewhat dark and somber but not completely devoid of hope

another excellent entry about a character that I have always felt got the shaft. I will write some more after I have slept ....but before I do, I must say you are really hitting your stride here.

I am new around here, so this might not be a good idea, but you could make a video about the connection between Captain Marvel and Miracleman and the court cases that led to. I think that would be interesting.

@OwenLikesComics

4 жыл бұрын

I'm planning on making a video on the whole Miracleman legal history at some point, it's definitely in the pipeline.

@leavonfletcher4197

4 жыл бұрын

@@OwenLikesComics Sounds great. I will be on the lookout for it. Thank you.

I think my introduction to the character was the Justice League cartoon series. I was very keen to read his comics, and I (being a Superman fan) found a crossover with Superman that led me to read The Power of Shazam series. He'll never be my favorite, but Captain Marvel or SHAZAM is a fun character that I like.

As someone who likes both major comics universes, I love when they have random nods to the other. Like the wink and nod idea that Shazam, or a version of him, might have an infinity stone because all the multiverses Captain Marvel's are their respective world's keepers of the Reality stone. It's a bit of fun that will go nowhere but it made me smile.

Damm, your channel is gold.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

i am hoping the marvel family get justice too because i love the marvel family with captain marvel billy baston and the rest of the marvel family especially with mary marvel billy's sister

@elliotvernon7971

5 жыл бұрын

From the new series just started by DC it looks like you are in luck.

@TevyaSmolka

2 жыл бұрын

@Abhikrishna Ps I know 😀

He will always be the original Captain Marvel!

Shout out to my boy Hal Jordan for that burn on Green Arrow 8:47

I want to compliment you on a very well-researched video. Very few get it as right as you do.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm very glad you appreciated the video. If it isn't too much to ask, would you be okay sharing a link to the video on Twitter? I hope some of your followers would also enjoy the video. All the best

@captainmarvel-ology7503

5 жыл бұрын

I'd be happy to :)

@captainmarvel-ology7503

5 жыл бұрын

Though, if I may - the character isn't "formerly Captain Marvel." DC didn't take any existing version of the character and changed the name. They simply created an entirely new one and called him, "Shazam." The original version is still called Captain Marvel (as are all other versions who went by that moniker) and he is still canon, thankfully.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it's much appreciated. And don't worry, I'm a big Captain Marvel/Shazam fan myself, so I'm aware of all the intricacies regarding the New 52 version and the original, I just wanted to try keep that fairly simple in the video, as the history of the name is a video in itself (which I might get to). Apologies for any confusion though

@captainmarvel-ology7503

5 жыл бұрын

That probably explains why this video is well-researched. Most videos tend to get at least one big thing wrong (typically a lot more), which I presume is usually the result of a few hours of internet research as opposed to a history of years of reading and digging up what one can about the character. And no worries, no confusion here!

Fawcett Comics should have won the Captain Marvel lawsuit. They had the Captain Marvel character and the Captain Marvel name first. That was really stupid of DC Comics for stealing the rights to the Captain Marvel character and changing Captain Marvel's name to Shazam. And that was really stupid of Marvel Comics for stealing the rights to the Captain Marvel name. DC and Marvel need to be sued. And by the way, Shazam is the name of the Wizard, not Billy Batson's alter ego. And the Shazam family is called the Marvel family. And one more thing: Billy Batson is 12 years old, not 15 years old. The reason why Billy Batson is 15 years old is because his origin was rewritten by DC Comics.

To be fair Wonder Woman really isn't that beloved as Batman and Superman. She's kinda just there to round out a trio while also being hot and Harley Quinn is quickly nipping at her heels.

NOT SHAZAM! Not the previous Shazam!? His legions of people slightly aware of him will be devastated.

I'd like to imagine that in a perfect world, Captain Marvel would've gone to Marvel Comics and ended up being one of the biggest Marvel characters, possibly even saving them from the 90's.

@VicEntity

4 жыл бұрын

Wow

@kevintanza6968

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn't fit with the Marvel profile.

@MemesToa

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevintanza6968 How so?

In case you haven't seen it, I have a video of "The Adventures of Captain Marvel," which you mention in your talk. I obtained it sometime during the dark period of comics -- maybe the late 1980s? -- and thought it would be fun to see a light-hearted version of superheroes. But during the first episode of the multi-part series, Billy Batson -- once he's turned into Captain Marvel -- grabs a machine gun from a Nazi's(?) nest and proceeds to kill all the people in the other nests. Light-hearted indeed!

I don’t agree with having Shazam and billy being the same entity 🤦🏾‍♂️Shazam and billy should have both been kept as separate entities.

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

exactly I really cant take him seriously he acts soo immature and childish but on the other hand when he was two separate enteritis he was a lot more mature and I can actually take him more seriously

Whoa WHAT!?!?!? This is BRAND NEW information!!!!!! I am shocked to my very core.

Because he was never featured in the Superfriends show, I never knew who Shazam was growing up. I remember my cousin had a DC heroes wallpaper in his room, and we knew every character on it except the guy in the red suit and white cape with the lighting bolt on his chest.

GREAT VIDEO ! SO NOW WHAT DO WE CALL HIM ?

That legal argument seems flimsy af to me. Cap is completely distinct from and independent of Superman

@navy0287

5 жыл бұрын

It's easy to see that now, but considering how rare super-powered heroes of his type were back then, it was probably much easier to accuse someone of copyright infringement. Incidentally, this is probably why Aquaman was such a weakling when he was created. Timely Comics already had the Submariner and making Aquaman in a manner that made sense given his origins (super strength, invulnerability, etc), writers probably worried it might open National (DC) Publishing to a Copyright lawsuit.

@gabrielp9646

5 жыл бұрын

@Stanlos It doesn´t really matter. Superman was also a copy of the Gladiator, just like Batman was a copy of the Black Bat. Everything we see in classic american comicbooks is a copy of what happened before in pulp fiction and pulp novels xDxD

i can't believe you didn't mention the TV series!!

Shazam has been one of my most beloved comic books characters ever since I was first introduced to him with his minor role in young justice. Since then my love has only grown after reading kingdom Come, the power of hope, the monster society of evil and animated appearances such as the JLU episode Clash and the Return of Black Adam short. And lest we forget Justice League Action. The Shazam movie was pretty good. I wouldn't call it the perfect portrayal but considering how I was shortening my life with stress over how it could have been considering how the rest of the DCEU was and that the director was only known for a horror film made me very concerned. That Nd the trailers reminded me too much of a story by Kick Ass writer called Superior. In the end I'm happy people liked it and it was a success. Billy Batson deserved to stand tall alongside the other best and most inspiring comic book heroes

Er, you seemed to ignore that after Shazam's cancellation(1978)Captain Marvel & co. were backup feature in World's Finest(1978-1982)and then a reprint feature in Adventure Digest(1982-83)and then basically not used at all until the Crisis On Infinite Earths(1985-1986).

DC Comics DID kill "Shazam ", AKA Captain Marvel. After they acquired the character it soon became clear that their legal position, that CM was just Superman in a RED suit, was actually how they saw the character. The obvious differences in the Billy Batson/ Captain Marvel and Clark Kent/ Superman dualities eluded most of the writers Julius Schwartz assigned to Cap, particularly Dennis O'Neil. To DC one superhero is just like another, with some being stronger than others. Only Nelson Bridwell understood Captain Marvel and Nelson's been dead for a long time.

Holy crap, how come this isn't one of the top search???

It's a shame that CC Beck couldn't see what his creation was and could be for people. If he was so stuck on keeping it the same he should've made comics just for himself 😛

Dc did kill shazam. The character you see in the movie and the recent comics is like a Saturday night live parody of what he's supposed to be. The real captain marvel doesn't dance or chew bubble gum. He's supposed to be the world's mightiest mortal but now he's just a buffoon.

@TruthTellert63

4 жыл бұрын

Agree completely. I loathe the whole "child's mind in an adult body" -- that's something DC did post-Crisis. It wasn't a part of the original character.

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

blame post crisis dc they basically destroyed his character...

No mention of the 70s Saturday AM tv show?

That's not even the strangest thing Fawcett did. In the 1970s they hid the death of an author (Tom McCahill, who had done new-car road tests for Mechanix Illustrated since 1948) and continued to publish content under his name for almost five years after his passing.

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

oh wow, really?

@nlpnt

5 жыл бұрын

"Mechanix Illustrated never publicly acknowledged his death, because his name was synonymous with it. He "amounted to the franchise" and management never wanted to admit he was gone. For a while, they ran a column called "McCahill Reports", which was ghostwritten by (Brooks) Brender (his stepson)." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_McCahill

@jimeagle6636

5 жыл бұрын

Reminds me the story of Carl Barks, artist of Donald Duck. Disney hid from him how popular he was. Never gave him his fan mail.

They nerfed Shazam! because he was much more popular than Superman in the 40s. Injustice did him real bad

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

back then he was more powerful than superman now they turn him into a manchild wuss just look at justice league unlimited and young justice return of black adam and the dcamu is was embarrising how the writers threated captain marvel when it comes to personallity and power level

@JeSsE10mCcOy11

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsav24z72 I know, right?!

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

@@JeSsE10mCcOy11 wish dc give captain marvel some respect it was superman who became more like captain marvel not the other way round plus back in the day he was more powerful than supes but now because of popularity between supes and cap captain marvel was heavily disrespected nerfed and his personallity has been downgraded and its pretty embarrassing how dc basically ditched captain marvel for supes everyone should be thanking captain marvel for changing the comic book industry not supes screw you dc

12:24 perfect lipsync

Kingdom come is still one of the greatest comics.

God, I wish Mark Waid would do a Shazam series, especially if it was with Chris Samnee. He needs a like really good series and I know Waid would do him justice

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

thank you he truly understand his character he even said that captain marvel and billy batson are two separate enterties so he clearly gets the true captain marvel the one would would give superman a run for his money

@Chill_With_Will

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsav24z72 Mark Waid just has a fantastic understanding of every character he writes, at least that I've seen

5:00 Owen, X-Men were never popular until the mid-70s.

I don't see how Captain Marvel infringed on the Superman copyright.

they killed shazam by using lawyers

I wish i was born during golden age i could read all the great comics

SHA-FREAKEN-ZAM!!!👊🏼

Captain Marvel is the type of concept I don't understand how anyone can fuck up. A boy that get's the powers of God's and hero's of legends from an ancient wizard called Shazam, that grant him basically god hood and unlimited power for the sole purpose of being the ultimate champion of justice, Earths mightiest mortal. He can travel through time via the Rock of eternity which only he can access, has a book that shows him every event that has happened, fights aliens, demons, mad scientist and Venus frog's. He easily moved planet's and was faster than light, and probably had more experience than Superman and Batman combined. His villian gallery as goofy as it can be can be used way better than what DC has done, mainly using Black Adam and Sivanna, but not Oggar or Ibac. He doesn't have to be a jerk with a heart of gold like new52, he's always been more like what Brave and the bold did, he's a kid that when he transforms is an adult that still looks at everything with amazement and fun, like a big brother with good humor. So far, Thunderworld and Convergence:Shazam have gotten that right.

I have such mixed feelings about Captain Marvel being a name taken by Marvel Comics. On one hand, I prefer Billy be called Shazam. On the other, I think it's kinda lame that he lost his identity because a company was too scared of their brand being tampered with outside of their knowledge. On a completely different 3rd hand, I like how over half a century later, the naming scheme Marvel came up with created a window for Kamala to be introduced and for Carol to step into further popularity.

Trinston was here ....

@thenoirknight5729

3 жыл бұрын

So was The Noir Knight

CAPTAIN THUNDER WOULD BE GREAT that's​ what he was called in Justice league paradox .

@Owen Likes Comics Shazam/Captain Marvel is one of my top 3 favorite superheroes of all time, and I am LEGIT scared for this movie maan... :S:S The character has so much potential, and not only in comedy (he is literally just a kid... If you have ever seen a little spoiled boy getting angry at his mom in the supermarket or something, now imagine that with superman-like powers. Or imagine how emotional a generic scene could be, where a bad-guy its beating the hero like hell, but in this case the hero its a 14 years old kid...) I will never forget that moment in the Roy Thomas era of the comics, when Black Adam tricked Shazam using his child-like personality, and killed an innocent woman in front of him... How Shazam started to cry like a little boy in shock, and how he porceeded to beat the life out of black adam while destroying half of Metropolis, still crying like a baby... Let me tell you, that scene was scariest than any evil version of superman that Ive ever seen... xDxD Im all in for the comedy, its NECESSARY in a Shazam movie, but I also hope they do some of the most deep and emotional stuff from the comics. Just a couple of serious scenes, you know.

They didn't give me any new powers until 2012 they took powers away from him like his marble breath

who's cutting onions?

I would've named him Captain thunder, i love the idea of a thunder striking some kid by saying a certain word consciously or unconsciously.

Billy Batson is what kills any interest I have in this character. DC has recreated heroes repeatedly; multiple Green Lanterns, multiple Flash’s… You can’t separate the weird child-in-a-man’s-body thing out of the mythos? Really?

A lot of catholic school children love Shazam/Captain Marvel for some weird reason

Was always a huge fan of Captain Marvel/Shazam in comics,wasn't a fan of the live action movie at all.

@kal0247

2 жыл бұрын

@Luc Germain Well said in every way Shazam is just so underrated and now she's a dancing clown in a puffy suit instead of what he should be a powerful respected character like when he was created so much potential wasted for cheap jokes to entertain kids great job DC/WB🤦🏽‍♂️

I always like the character, but that upcoming movie looks horrible.

@jonathangoode546

5 жыл бұрын

Gin-Nius. try to like it anyway to save this famous character so we don't lose him again . and this way everyone can give THIER opinions about the movie to make him better for the future .

@jonathangoode546

5 жыл бұрын

I would like for these artist to get his costume right .His best appearance was in KINGDOM COME .

Did the 70's TV series have no impact on comics?

DC has treated captain marvel (Shazam) so badly since dc bought his rights..they destroyed his character, nerfed him and tried to basically erase him from existence

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

they basically ditched him for superman it was superman who became more like captain marvel not the other way round superman personality in the golden age is much different than today plus captain marvel was more powerful than superman back in the day so yeah dc comics basically destroyed his legacy....

Speaking of comebacks, Shazam is very much in good company with Wonder Woman and Aquaman as one of the heroes who for decades DC neglected/ignored/treated as jokes/afterthoughts only to become the very characters to gain critical and financial success after the failure of the Superman/Batman/Suicide Squad/Justice League experiment. To say that this development is hilarious in hindsight would be a marvelous (pun intended) understatement.

To be honest...I rather like it when Billy and his heroic self were two separate people and not the same person when Billy says the magic word. There are some aspects of what DC Put into the character of Billy Batson and his world that was enjoyable, but making him more rougher and realistic and losing the innocent and charm is what lost me as a reader.

Namor, human torch just as old

Honestly while Shazam (the movie) seems a little too silly for me I still hope it does well because while I haven't read any of the comics yet, there is just something about Captain Marvel that makes me like him. He's a kid who gets the powers of six mythological figures that puts him on par with Superman but unlike Superman, he's still a kid mentally and also unlike Superman, he's is more of a man playing a God than a god playing a man (not saying Superman doesn't have humanity, just saying he's a god like alien full time where as Billy has to transform into his super form). Really the character is so intriguing that I have been thinking about some storylines I'd try for the character if given the chance, and I honestly refrain from calling him Shazam as much as I can because I feel he is more worthy of the Captain Marvel name than the Marvel versions, no offense to most of them. He's a cool concept for a character and he also has a cool villain in Black Adam. I hope he gets more popular so we can see more stuff from him and DC can put their A game into his comics. I get really annoyed when it seems like he's fodder for Superman to beat up.

@antoniofearon8874

5 жыл бұрын

Truth is that, as this video implies, DC tried to bury the original Captain Marvel and opened the door for his inability to use his real name. It’s really ironic how they want to use CM now. I will always see him as Fawcett Comics flagship superhero.

@TruthTellert63

4 жыл бұрын

@@antoniofearon8874 Quite correct -- he was.

Also, modern Shazam movie is ALSO an attempt at competing with Marvel's domination of market- superhero movie market. History repeats itself

Honestly dc had no grounds on copy right because the only similarity’s where flight and strength

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

shazam had flight first not superman

As much as I like DC comics they were a bunch of cry babies because Captain Marvel beat Superman in sales so they cried and whined to run Captain Marvel and others out of business to protect their golden boy

@SudrianTales

2 жыл бұрын

To quote SFdebris, "All DC is missing is a i and a k from there name"

He's NOT "formerly known as Captain Marvel." HE IS CAPTAIN MARVEL.

Captain Marvel's come back story is right up there with Kim Kardashian's!

I still remember the Saturday morning live action series, where he existed in the universe that also had isis. I remember the show crossover, and how much I looked for any Shazam comics while I collected as a child, and an adult. I always wondered why Marvel had to be such a dick, and legally forced DC to rename the character. I'm so sorry that Marvel couldn't have bought the character, and run the stories under the Marvel publishers, but Marvel publishing chose to be dicks about it. I am so glad that DC finally bought complete control from Fawcett, and I'm really glad that that big Shazam guy can push Billy out of the way when lightning strikes. Sorry. That was a joke that I remember, the idea that Shazam would appear when lightning struck Billy, and so the jokes sprung up that Shazam would just push belly out of the way. :) Yes, I understood completely that Shazam and Billy were the same person, even reading the comics published by Fawcett, and I even loved the other members of the Marvel family, including the uncle. ;)

DC has been shitting on Captain Marvel for 70+ years after Faucet acquisition. Whenever they refer to him its always "the superhero who can go toe to toe with Superman" but never as a child who gained superman

@dsav24z72

2 жыл бұрын

nah captain marvel was the original superman

Now I understand why Marvel keeps creating new series for Captain Marvel, but Marvel doesn't seem to understand why the series never work....

captain marvel came back aaaaand then he became a cheap tool for dark and edgy releases to always kill billy batson

Captain Marvel, Shazam ⚡, will ALWAYS BE KNOWN BY THAT NAME!! DEAL WITH IT MARVEL! Especially with the not so liked Brie Larson/Carol Danvers Capt. Marvel character! Fawcet was RIpe Off by DC & It's probably appropriate that they struggle with their current Movie story lines today!! The characters of mythological gods ( like the Olympian gods) "existed" long before Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman was EVER even though of & base on the nature "The Red Cheese's" powers DC shouldn't even leg or cape to STAND ON in court!!

I was never really a fan of shazam. Didn’t like the fact that he is just a boy with the powers of god. If you like him you do you

@thenoirknight5729

3 жыл бұрын

Hm. The whole "Boy with the powers of gods" is typically the reason why people like the character... that and him being child having innocence

SHAZAM was the wizard. There was Captain Marvel, he champion. I hate that DC was so fucking lame over this shit.

i hate the new 52 origin for shazam captain marvel its bullshit

@OwenLikesComics

5 жыл бұрын

We'll agree to disagree on this one. I actually like what Johns did with Shazam during the New 52, but I can totally see why long-term fans might not have appreciated it. It's all good though

@TevyaSmolka

5 жыл бұрын

thank you man and i can understand why you liked that origin and i respect that :)

How Marvel stole does the name Captain Marvel from DC

9u

Nothing like hated to bring back an old hero after hater killed him for the first.

He’s always gonna be captain marvel to me, I refuse to call him by the wizards name

basically DC messed up everything

And then DC killed superman with magic weakness and more rip offs and bad writing. Comimg from a ex superman fan.

@thenoirknight5729

3 жыл бұрын

Oooo, *ex* Superman Fan? Any favorite pieces of Superman media?

Why does sentry exist?

DC screwed him over, Marvel screwed him over, Poor Billy can't catch a break.

I hate the new Billy Batson. Wise cracking and just a whiney punk.